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John Paul II's Trip to the Great Nothing PDF Print E-mail
2005 - April 2005
Written by Janer Cristaldo   
Tuesday, 12 April 2005 08:28

Faithful say farewell to Pope John Paul IIIn The Plague, by Albert Camus, Father Paneloux provides a long exposé about the scourges befalling men because of divine will. As Christ did, he passively accepts Evil without questioning for a minute the eventual motivation of such a divinity.

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Very Amusing
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
C'mon guys, you gotta love Janer! After all, our lives would be so empty without his wisdom!
Meus Pesames
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
Baixinha has been given the ultimate healing, I presume those who loved her have done all they could. I will keep her in my Rosaries and pray for the repose of her soul as well as for Mr Cristaldo who is dealing with this difficult loss . To me it seems as if this article advocates euthenasia and is very hateful to the Roman Catholic Church.We are to give the sick and dying 4 basic things: food, water, room temperature, and to keep them clean. Thats it, there is nothing artificial about those methods of keeping a person alive. As for the Great Pope John Paul II it is a mixture of joy and sorrow. Instead of giving in to death he suffered through it and died like a man, he practised what he preached and his exaple is more powerful than any of these cowardly euthenasia advocates. He did God's work and left a legacy, I am happy for this Great holy man who is now reunited with his family that had gone before him.

Que o Senhor Jesus Cristo e a sua Mae Santisima a Nossa Senhora de Fatima te abencoe.
...
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
May Terri Schiavo, Baixinha, and Pope John Paul II, as well as all the faithful departed through the mercy of G*d rest in peace.

Nossa Senhora de Aparecida, hogai por nos.
re: Christ did, he passively accepts Evi
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
re: Its practicing faithful drink blood, eat human flesh and have as their symbol an instrument of torture.

I love your politics, Janer, but hate your theology! Maybe Catholics "drink blood and eat flesh, but not REAL Christians that follow the true, undefiled bible (The 1611 King James in English and the Almeida Corrigida FIEL in Portugueses) see
In English
http://www.wayoflife.org/

In Portuguese:
http://www.solascriptura-tt.org
Funny
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
I hate his politics and love his theology.
Cristaldo fans
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
The fact that the fans of Cristaldo's politics are fundamentalist Christian fanatics (i.e., "REAL Christians") demonstrates how impoverished and facile his politics are. The fact that he offends them too is pure, delicious irony. Way to go Cristaldo!
It is just an opinion...
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
Neither theology nor politics here. Mr. Cristaldo's article is just the opinion of someone who looks at religion and spirituality in general with disdain. Had it be the death of a secular leader of his liking, maybe he would have written something else, and even praised those who mourned the deceased. So, until shown otherwise, these can be taken as the words of someone who has not yet even come to accept his own (or other's) mortality. Well, Death will inexorably come, and healthy people will mourn and grief, be then Atheists, Catholics, Methodists, Jewish, or Islamic. Maybe Janer is, in fact, very, very afraid of the solitude of his own final days...
Hi Janer!
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
Next time, just turn off the TV! No more offensive crowds for you!
...
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Janer rules !!
Re: Cristaldo fans
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Re: "demonstrates how impoverished and facile his politics are"

That poster has lots in common with Hitler. Hitler hated Jews, that poster hates Christians. Let's illustrate who you REALLY are!
Materialism
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
If life begins in cosmic meaninglessness and ends in cosmic meaninglessness, then all in between is an illusion.

'Nuff said.
What?
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Who claimed to be a "REAL Christian"? I don't hate Christians, I hate phony, pious pricks like you.
How infantile
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Where do you come up with this infantile Hitler crap? Anyone who disagrees with you is compared to Hitler, eh? Actually, you have more in common with Hitler, because he was a Christian too. He was one of YOURS!
Meu padinho pade Cicero
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Tenha misercordia de nos.
1+1=2
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Seems logical enough to me. Why attack Janer's politics or his motivation. If you must, attack his reasoning. If you can.
Hitler Christian?
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
You need to study more! German Naziism promoted Nordic Mysticism as part of it's master race theology. Think! Jesus was a JEW!
Was?
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Correction: Jesus IS a Jew! I serve a RISEN savior.
jornal nacional
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
If the ideia even to both, when you die is a trip to great nothing or the eternity. why do we bother living the way we do? going to universities, buying new car, building cities, or lose time in some Sorbonne, for a Phd. For what? just to prove "I was here" I was more original and individual than the mass? Mr. Jane's piece is empty as his belive to our end, reflects his ideia in politics and the people future! Hey, I got a ideia. how about we kill anybody over 30 yo? like the saying, do not belive anybody with more than 30 teeth in his mouth! so this way we maybe, maybe cut this old ideias.
Janer: A dead saviour?
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
I don't think so: the below lyrics sums up my response

http://www.breadsite.org/lyrics/180.htm
No, you need to read
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country.

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people."

-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)
Reasoning
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
"If you must, attack his reasoning. If you can." I'll wait until his next inane "I hate Lula" political piece. It's sufficient to sit back and let this one annoy his fans!
Think!
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
"Think! Jesus was a JEW!" Obviously, you are incapable of doing just that. Your argument is: Hitler was antisemetic. Jesus was a jew. Jesus is the Christian savior. Therefore, Hitler could not be a Christian. I'm trying to understand how ignorant and/or blind to reality you have to be to make such a stupid argument. Antisemitism has been part of Christian ideology for as long as it has been around. The idea that jews are responsible for Christ's death ("Christ-killers") has been part of Christian belief, in spite of movements to rid Christianity of such antisemitism. To deny that many Christians have been and are now antisemetic, or that they even could be antisemetic, is just ignorant.
strange
written by Guest, April 14, 2005
Let He who is the real Christian throw the first stone....
For followers to the Truth you seem to be a bunch of rather hateful & spiteful people.
the protestant
written by Guest, April 15, 2005
I love your politics, Janer, but hate your theology! Maybe Catholics "drink blood and eat flesh, but not REAL Christians that follow the true, undefiled bible (The 1611 King James in English and the Almeida Corrigida FIEL in Portugueses) see
In English
http://www.wayoflife.org/

In Portuguese:
http://www.solascriptura-tt.org

protestant person. I respect your faith so respect mine. Remember without the catholic church your religion would not even exist.
Simmer down dear episcopalian. So your king was horny and decided to kill many wives an then form a new religion. And you guys still criticize the mormons whose founder was an alcoholic.
the protestant
written by Guest, April 19, 2005
"the protestant" is just a typical small minded fan of Cristaldo…big on hot air, small on brains.
I love Janer!
written by Guest, May 13, 2005
The way I see it, praying for him to remain among us is a demonstration of uncommon cruelty. No lay person ignores that if he were to remain alive, the pope would have been be reduced to a vegetal state.

Given his fascination for big crowds, John Paul provided a true media show with all the exhibitionism surrounding his death. Death is something personal, a private moment, which the Pope insisted in making obscenely public

Perfect! Brilliant!

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