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How the US Through Bullying and Humiliation Is Alienating Brazilians PDF Print E-mail
Written by Clara Angelica Porto   
Friday, 24 June 2005 16:12

Statue of Liberty after 9/11During the military regime in Brazil, journalist Fernando Gabeira was among the team of young revolutionaries involved in the kidnapping of the American Ambassador.

His book, "O que é isso, companheiro?" became a mark of an era. Today, Federal Deputy Fernando Gabeira, no longer a blindfolded radical, forms with those who are fighting to pass a law giving Americans free entry in Brazil, with no visa.

The law would benefit the tourism industry, of multiplying effects, and a positive factor for the country's economy. Gabeira sides with those in Brazil who believe that what is good for the country should be done.

Ironically, due to his revolutionary past the representative for the Rio de Janeiro Green Party (PV) has been barred to enter the United States.

Meanwhile, it gets harder everyday for Brazilians to get visas to come to the US. Many are denied a visa with no apparent reason and no explanation. At times Brazilians have to face a condescending attitude from the part of the American Consulate officers.

Like in the case of the 22 year old university student of Psychology, who was denied a visa at the Consulate in Recife. The officer told the young woman she should get a little older before visiting New York.

Who is this person to judge when it is the appropriate time for a tourist to do tourism? The girl was so taken aback that she sat there speechless. After few tears of disappointment, she later used her father's generous gift to go to Paris instead.

Other Brazilians, who do get visas, are sent back from the airport. Also, without explanation.

One governor from northeast Brazil went through such humiliation at the airport in Washington D.C. recently, that he has actually moved all projects and government related businesses he had in Washington's official institutions to Europe.

"U.S. no more," he said, "not in the present administration when there does not seem to have any respect even for a Governor who comes from abroad to do business in Washington."

The Governor, who asked for anonymity, spent hours being interrogated, poorly treated and disrespected. Without any shoes on, he sat and waited for hours without any explanation.

When he told the officers he was a governor, they just said " We don't care, you just do as we say." The governor is black.

Brazilians have been number two tourists in the US, losing only to the Japanese in the 90s. In New York, there were so many Brazilian shoppers, that many stores hired Portuguese speaking sales people.

Travel agencies in Brazil made a fortune organizing shopping tours. With the hardships in the economy, however, the number dropped considerably and the market slowed down in recent years.

Now, Brazil is doing better, the dollar value is depreciating and Brazilians' buying power is coming back.

And what city is more attractive than New York, to go to shows, wonderful restaurants, museums, and do all the shopping one wants? And when the dollar costs less, New York, the ideal city, is better than ideal.

But now getting a visa for a Brazilian is very hard. So hard that many Brazilians are just refusing to go through the time consuming and many times humiliating process and choosing to go to Europe instead.

There they are welcome, have lots of fun, and different options of things to do and places to visit. They can also shop in these days of consumption. And the numbers of Brazilian tourists are going up in European countries.

The numbers are dropping in US tourism and this should not be a surprise to government authorities. Comedian Bill Maher in his final show of the season pointed out that the tourism numbers drop in the US have to do with the dislike of the rest of the world of America since the Iraq war, since Bush.

Maybe Bill is right. But one reason that weighs much, is that American Consulates are pushing tourists away. At least this is the case of Brazil. Brazilians love coming to New York, they have always, but they are denied visas and many times treated as enemies at airports.

Brazilians are not the enemy. The enemy is hiding in the mountains of Afghanistan or God knows where in the Middle East. Brazilians do not place any threat to the safety of this democratic land of opportunity.

For U.S. tourism, the enemy is the undemocratic set of criteria that lead government employees to deny visas at random. Or those airport officers who treat Brazilian authorities as if they were bandits or terrorists. This attitude will only scare people away and change their tourism and/or business destination.

And when it comes to New York, the city that wants to host the Olympics 2012, the two things just do not fit together. New York is the ideal place for the Olympics. No one in his/her sane mind could ever doubt that. This is one of the best cities in the world, the most multicultural city in the planet, and it is indeed prepared to host any major event.

Now, how are people going to do to come to New York for the Olympics? Brazil participates in the Olympics. How are Brazilians getting their visas to come to the big event? Are they going to hear from a consulate officer that they are much too young at 22 to visit the Big Apple during the Olympics?

Mayor Bloomberg could discuss this matter with authorities. It is not because of 9/11 that tourism in this country is going down the drain. It is not because the world does not like Bush administration's international politics and the war in Iraq.

A lot of regular tourists are not coming to the US because they are not being allowed, because they are getting no visas. And I am afraid this is going to count when it comes to deciding whether or not New York is the ideal place for the Olympics.

Mr. Donald Trump announced that "The Apprentice," will also be focusing on helping to bring the Olympics to New York. All New Yorkers are participating in the campaign, one way or another, some just in their hearts, hoping, and ready to collaborate more directly, if given the opportunity.

Because those of us who live in New York, love New York. And we will feel so proud to have the Olympics here, and the city crowded with people from all over the world.

Including many Brazilians of all ages, who would be twice happy, because they would be at the Olympics and in New York. Mr. Trump could use his power to bring the subject out in the open and bring some sense into this.

Security should be a top priority in the US. But it is necessary to find better ways of detecting the enemy. Denying tourists visas might scare away many dollars which will make a difference in the economy. It is also unfriendly and unfair.

Clara Angelica Porto is a Brazilian bilingual journalist living in New York.  She went to school in Brazil and at the University of Wisconsin in Madison.  Clara is presently working as the English writer for The Brasilians, a monthly newspaper in Manhattan.  Comments welcome at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it .

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Go through customs in Brazil as a forieg
written by Guest, June 24, 2005
The author is a xenophobic Brazilian bigot living in New York.
As a Canadian going into Brazil I see and speak with many Americans. The consensus is that the Brazilians are rascist. Plain and simple.
Of course, those Brazilians who haven't made it to the US have the worst attitude, but even among those who have, the feeling I get is that they don't want 'foriegners' in Brazil.
Why?
They want to be able to hold on to their illusion of Brazil as a paradise for those people who have money.
The truth is that Brazil is still a third world country filled with undereducated people holding 'prestigious' positions due to the fact that they have no competion for thir jobs from educated immigrants because no one wants to learn Portuguese.
Brazil is a backwater.
Pegean hole
written by Guest, June 24, 2005
Generatlization is hard to do. It was around 1977, year I entered EPUSP,
or simply Poli in Sao Paulo, engineering school of Universidade de Sao
Paulo. Back then, I've heard that this Korean guy, naturalized, had
passed ITA examination, by far the toughest engineering school back
then, and probably still is. This guy went to register, was met by a
colonel, who after examining all documentation, uttered very choice
words against the ethnicity of this Korean guy, ripped all papers
including the certificate of naturalization (probably not original copy)
and sent this guy home.

By the time I graduated from Poli, there was this Korean guy in
Chemistry major. According to this guy, whole class went for
a field trip, and at this company headquarter, they would take
internship application of entire class, except this Korean guy.

Late 1970s and early '80s, there were quite few illegal Koreans
in Sao Paulo. At one point, police was going around aprehending
illegal Koreans. This, in spite of presence of millions of illegal
immigrants from other Latin American countries.

Last I heard, South Korea and Brazil have no visa (short term tourist
visa) treaty. It appears, in Brazil, race talks and money talks as well.
I do think that Americans may have treated Brazilians badly, as
reported in the article. However, the difference between Brazil
and U.S. is that U.S. far superior enforcement of rule of law.

Go through customs in Brazil as a forieg
written by Guest, June 24, 2005
"The author is a xenophobic Brazilian bigot living in New York." What? That is an oxymoron.

"Brazilians are rascist. Plain and simple." Hmm. Well putting aside the truth of that statement for the moment, I don't see the connection to the article.

"They want to be able to hold on to their illusion of Brazil as a paradise for those people who have money." That is nonsense, I think…then again, what the hell are you talking about?

There is no doubt that it is nearly impossible for a Brazilian to get a visa and that the US treats Brazilians with disdain. The more interesting critique, however, is that the only people who can even afford to go on shopping sprees from Brazil are the wealthy elite. They have their knickers in a bunch, because they have privilege and power back home and are treated like they are from a third world country in the US…Guess what, you are from a third world country! Finally you know what it feels like to be treated like a regular person in Brazil. That part doesn’t get much sympathy from me in the story. That sounds like justice, actually.

Yes, the US is very screwed up in its policies. Student visa difficulties are hindering development. Tourist visa difficulties are hindering tourist money from entering the country. The US is one messed up place. No one can deny that. Thank you George W. Bush.
Pegean hole
written by Guest, June 24, 2005
Interesting story, but, as my grandfather used to ask, "What does that have to do with the price of beans?" Or as Pewee Herman said, "I love that story." The title is an additionally perplexing non sequitur.
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written by Guest, June 24, 2005
"Interesting story, but, as my grandfather used to ask, "What does that have to do with the price of beans?" Or as Pewee Herman said, "I love that story." The title is an additionally perplexing non sequitur."

That Brazilians have nothing to complain about how they are treated
by North Americans (of U.S.A)?
Go through customs in Brazil as a “forei
written by Guest, June 24, 2005
Do you speak fluent dyslexic? Learn how to spell in the English language, imbecile… English is your second language, isn't it? What a shame you don't have a first. A lot of pure ignorance spewed per paragraph. Beyond what that inconsequential Canadian (American wannabe!) had to say…Let’s get to the point:

I did some research some 10-15 years ago as to the number of Brazilian tourism in the State of Florida, in lieu of Disney-World in Orlando . The numbers were staggering, in fact Brazilian tourism constituted something like 60% of all tourism combined in Florida, with disposable income in the order of US$2500 per visiting family/household. The total dollar value spend per year was no pocket change, forming a levering point for Brazilians.

Florida is very much dependent on tourism dollars as its principal source of revenue. With that in mind, it is time to make demands… I am willing to bet that if such a source of income were to be taken, many Floridian businesses would take a dive into the ground.

Perhaps what is needed is some form of organizing campaign, making it public to Brazilians. If potential Brazilian tourists were to understand how they are being discriminated against once arriving in the US, most would turn to other alternative destinations, hence their spending money as well. That would turn heads in Florida, given that a federal policy is hurting business, things would likely change.

As to removing Visa requirements for Americans, I think it is a mistake. That is equity, Americans get what they dish out. It may hurt business in the short term, however, if the Brazilian government were to heavily advertise in other continents its value as a tourism destination, tourist dollars will keep right on rolling in. There is a general consensus that Brazil is an exotic country, so the propensity is already in place. What is needed is a well planned designed marketing program to make foreigners aware of what Brazil has to offer.

Last but not least, better security in the major cities, especially Rio and São Paulo, not to scare people away due to petty crime. Brazil with its vast geography, climate, culture, people and food, makes it a prime desirable location for visitors to fall in love with!
Is it true?
written by Guest, June 24, 2005
The author speaks of a "black governor". Has Brazil ever had a black state governor???
Some balance
written by Guest, June 25, 2005
To judge any article of this sort, one has to look at its sources and facts. The "black govenor" does not exist. Although it is right for Ms. Porto to protect sources, this source is likely made up -- I can find no news, comments, or discussion about a "black" Brazilian govenor.

As for the race of a govenor, often it is a matter of conjecture, a govenor could appear European but have grandparents who are indignes or African descent.

So these problems are immediately evident with Ms. Porto's article. (The reality is, from the point of responsible journalism, she should write out here little faux pas with the black govenor.)

The rest of the article is editorial. Applause to Ms. Porto for knowing who Fernando Gabeira is, but should she really think he would ever get a free pass into the United States after kidnapping an American Diplomat? Arafat ordered two killed, and only barely got admissions to talk at the UN. Gabeira is simply not an issue.

Other than that -- yes the VISA situation is strained between the US and Brazil, but American travelers coming to Brazil face other problems that is more important than VISAs. Crime and corruption comes to immediate foreground when an American thinks of coming to Brazil.
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written by Guest, June 25, 2005
"I can find no news, comments, or discussion about a 'black' Brazilian govenor." Umm, so what? Maybe you don't know what you're doing. Are you some kind of master cyber sleuth? Are you Brazilian? Can you read portuguese?
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written by Guest, June 25, 2005
"yes the VISA situation is strained between the US and Brazil" Not to mention the MASTERCARD situation.
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written by Guest, June 25, 2005
"Applause to Ms. Porto for knowing who Fernando Gabeira is." That's a bit condescending, don't you think? I mean, the author is a "Brazilian bilingual journalist" after all.
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written by Guest, June 25, 2005
"should she really think [Gabeira] would ever get a free pass into the United States after kidnapping an American Diplomat? . . . Gabeira is simply not an issue."

Well, first off, the article doesn't say that Federal Deputy Fernando Gabeira is complaining that HE has not received a visa. He is, indeed, not the issue in this story. Second, he is mentioned in the article because he is a Federal Deputy and he's working "with those who are fighting to pass a law giving Americans free entry in Brazil, with no visa."
Do Not Remove...
written by Guest, June 25, 2005
Visa requirements for Americans...they are not the only source of tourism revenues, you know! And besides, it is a matter of justice and equality regarding those north American bullies.

Expand both Asian and European tourism into Brasil. The further from the United States, the better for Brasil.

God Bless Brasil
\"The further from the United States, th
written by Guest, June 25, 2005
Teplace United States with Brazil and vice versa and you sound like a backwoods Republican.
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written by Guest, June 25, 2005
that should be Replace
checking facts
written by Guest, June 25, 2005
Well, I can read Portuguese and I can find no references to a black Brazilian governor or any reference to one being detained at the DC airport in any internet searches. If someone can find evidence of Brazil's first black governor please let us know.
Benedita da Silva
written by Guest, June 25, 2005
Without any search on the Internet it occurs to me that Benedita da Silva was black and governor of Rio de Janeiro. It answers at least part of your question if there was ever a Brazilian black governor.
Another one
written by Guest, June 25, 2005
Alceu Collares, another black, was governor of Rio Grande do Sul from 1991 to 1994 if I am not mistaken.
First
written by Guest, June 25, 2005
Eduardo Ribeiro, from the state of Amazonas, is famous for being Brazil's first black governor. He was the guy who built the renowned Amazonas theater in Manaus.
Re: Article
written by Guest, June 25, 2005
Brazilians having trouble getting Visas to the USA have only one incident to look at for some clarity, 911!

If a country has an avowed enemy who will use any means to destroy you, including coming through Brazil, then you must scrutinize everyone.

Look at it this way, right now you are being inconvenienced through the visa process, if someone sets off a nuclear weapon in say, New York, the whole world economy collapses, and Brazil is sent spiraling into internal chaos.

If someone sets off a nuclear weapon in Washington D.C., then whoever made that weapon will see an equivalent city of theirs destroyed by a nuclear weapon!

Now we have a Brazilian who is upset that they cant go to New York to experience it's many amenities!

I would like to travel to Brazil without visa or passport!

Why should my travel be restricted by government, that's right, government!

When the two Governments stop tossing verbal grenades at each other and start thinking about and working for their citizens, who they are being paid by, then we will have no need to talk about such petty nonsense!

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written by Guest, June 25, 2005
Who cares if he is black or white!

He got inconvenienced just like everyone else!

I read somewhere that Senator Ted Kennedy was inconvenienced at Dulles Airport. He ranted to the agents saying, "do you know who I am?"

No, we dont know who you are, you walking ,talking, mature sperm!

Like the guest who wrote "you now see what average Brazilians go through everyday."

Inconvenience all of them, let them go to europe, we Americans can go to Colombia, or Peru, or any number of tropical settings around the globe!

Keep up the racist talk, and crime, and Americans will not only shut our borders, we will stop coming across yours!

We had enough of racism during the last 3 centuries!



What have you been smoking lately?
written by Guest, June 25, 2005
I want some of that s**t!

è “we Americans can go to Colombia, or Peru, or any number of tropical settings around the globe! “…

Really, tell me, where are Americans welcome nowadays? Go ahead, go to Colombia and your opie ass will be kidnapped faster then you can say HELP! You must be smoking some good old golden grass to have such logic! NUTS…

Entrance harassment is applicable only if you were from Latin America, Asia and Africa…Europeans have easy with the INS nazis! In other words, traditional US discrimination.

è “Keep up the racist talk, and crime, and Americans will not only shut our borders, we will stop coming across yours!”

Promises …Promises…Typical American rhetoric. Americans wrote the book on RACISM….Please! Crime? Yes it happens in Brasil, but in the United States, just as often. Come down to Miami and make a wrong turn to the north east, they will rip your opie ass to nothing!

I think you ought to be promoted from Village to Town Idiot.
Re: Article and following
written by Guest, June 25, 2005
The "Re: Article" and post that immediately follows (apparently written by the same person) are funny. Who put a bee in your bonnet? The article says that Brazil is trying to improve the ease with which Brazilians can visit the US. Big deal.

What got you into a lather and sputtering a lot of rubbish? Was it the talk about the color of the skin of the governor in the story? Well, some self-appointed fact checker and clearly a fool challenged that fact as some lame attempt to criticize the article. I see you also want to deny the existence of racism or the role it might have played in the incident, but trying to do that only makes you out to be a bigger fool. Racism exists in the US and all over the world. It doesn't go away by ignoring it.

And, by the way, I wrote the comment saying "you now see what average Brazilians go through everyday," and it was directed at the wealthy, mostly light skinned Brazilians who can afford to go on shopping sprees in NY or Miami. If they are being treated as third class people, then now they know how their brown and black citizens feel back home.
i dont need
written by Guest, June 25, 2005
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written by Guest, June 25, 2005
Brazilians aren't treated any better in Europe
in Europe
BRAZILIAN WOMAN=PROSTITUTE

I used to work at the airport back in my college days (Milan), and that was one of the things inmigration officials would stress out......... if the person is brazilian, check their passports well, because many come to stay illegaly, and if they are women, in many cases they come to work in the prostitution and never go back to brazil

Brazilians had to go thru a lot of pain and humiliation at least trying to enter italy

and it's gotten worse, since europe is getting flooded with inmigrants, and when it comes to latin america we don;t have a thousands of mexicans flooding here like in the USA, WE HAVE BRAZILIANS.

I think like 85% of all the people from south america who live in europe are from brazil.

and many europeans have very low perception of them, because we have large numbers of brazilian prostitutes, transvestites etc.
so their rep**ation is not very high.

and if you want to see real discriminatrion against brazilians, i suggest go to JAPAN

in japan they consider brazilians less than filth, because they have hunderths of thousands of them, many illegaly living there.


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written by Guest, June 25, 2005
I know, and the USA will collapse because Brazilians don't want to go there any more

f**k BRAZILIANS

You're the ones inmigrating here in masses (brazil), not us migrating there (Americans)

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written by Guest, June 25, 2005
for 1 American going to Brazil, there are 1.000 brazilians trying to make it to the USA
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written by Guest, June 25, 2005
Dumbass, the story is about tourist visas. Get over yourself.
Japan
written by Guest, June 26, 2005
"in japan they consider brazilians less than filth, because they have hunderths of thousands of them, many illegaly living there"

This is plain non-sense. I have been living in Japan for six years and have never felt or witnessed an kind of animosity towards Brazilian immigrants (who, by the way, usually have 100% japanese blood).
Chinese and Koreans are the usual target of Japanese racism …
The truth of the matter
written by Guest, June 26, 2005
US restricts Brasilians for one reason, because they come here and don't leave. Check Miami area and see how many illegal Brasilians living there. How many Americans living in Brasil illegally?

Stop all the BS talk and speak about the reality. If you fix your own country, they won't have to come here and overstay their visas
Moronans Americanus a*****eas
written by Guest, June 26, 2005
Pronunciation: Moronaaans Ameeeericanuuuuus Asssssholeaaaaaaas

Species: Blood thirsty mutated organisms.

Habitat: Polluted areas of North America, known to thrive under acid rain conditions and in its own excrement!

Food: Mainly peanut butter, hamburgers and french fries. These animals do not usually exercise any table manners but instead, use raw hands to devour eatable substances. Abundance of lard reserves are quite common among these savages.

Adaptation: Namely rejected by all others beans on the planet. However, they are expanding their territory thru intimidation and killings, during the latter portion of the 20th century and beginning of the 21st century.

Behavior: Cowardly when singled out but vicious when in packs. Not yet known but inferred that metamorphosis occur at the DNA level of these creatures due to prolonged exposure to radioactive materials, set up by their own leaders.

Caution: Stay way, these mammals are known to have huge mouths and very narrow minds, with an average IQ comparable to those of chimpanzees. In fact, these animals recently brought to power a specimen that parallels any ape, better known as George Bush.

Short-Coming: Unilingual, lacking any understanding of civilization and order, and driven by pure greed.
Black governor, yes
written by Guest, June 26, 2005
Just to say that there have been several black governors in Brazil. The governor mentioned in the article's name is João Alves Filho, for the state of Sergipe.
Clara
Black governor, yes II
written by Guest, June 26, 2005
And by the way, he told me what happened himself. And it is unfriendly, disrespectul and unnecessary to treat a foreign authority that way. To say the least.
Clara
More than overstaying
written by Guest, June 26, 2005
It is also my understanding that too many Brazilians have overstayed the visas, and that is probably the major factor in the restriction of tourist visas for Brazilians. If you look at the process, it's designed to establish that the Brazilian has a reason to return to Brazil. However, the issue is not that simple. There is the drug Colombian drug trade which passes into Brazil that is a concern. There have been additional concerns in the US since 9/11. I have read that there are concerns about the potential operation or mobility of extremist groups, such as in the area of Foz do Iguaçu. This all may be total rubbish, but I understand that it plays a role. And, of course, in the implementation of any restrictive laws, where someone has power over another, there will be discrimination on various grounds, such as class, color, etc. People from MG have a rep**ation for overstaying visas. So, if you're from MG, you're profiled and it's more difficult for you. Perhaps if you are black, like the Governor João Alves Filho, you'll suffer racial discrimination. If you don't own property, it's more difficult. These are real problems. Power is the ability to impose one's will on another. The article points out that such abuse of power is significant. Thus, to reduce the issue to one reason is erroneous thinking. You’re also missing much of the article.

The article does not just discuss the problem of the arbitrariness of the system. It also discusses the economic implications, and informs us how Brazilian lawmakers and others are working to try to change the system -- a worthy endeavor.
Good point
written by Guest, June 26, 2005
I enjoyed your article very much, Clara and I agree that American Consulates should be more open for visas. The article is well written and it makes a point. Even if one doesn't agree with your point, it is your viewpoint on facts. You sure have a talent for raising polemic.
Be rational
written by Guest, June 26, 2005
Can't people just write what they think without being so emotional and offensive? Even if we are the most powerful country in the world, we do make huge mistakes. And the criticism is of a constructive kind. Very well put.
Do you know what you\'re talking about?
written by Guest, June 26, 2005
There is racism in the US, we invented it. There is racism in Brazil and all over the world. Brazil is a third world country that is growing stronger everyday. What kind of person will 'accuse' someone of being a third world citizen? What's wrong with you?
We are the biggest economy in the world and we are growing weaker in every sense of the word, under the Bush administration, I'm sorry to say. I'm a New Yorker who would love to see the Olympics in New York, but I have to admit I doubt it will happen. One of the reasons is very well explained in Clara's article.
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written by Guest, June 26, 2005
You know what? I have read other articles here by the author and I think they are great, easy to read and to the point. She writes as if she is talking. I bet she's a great conversationalist and she makes great points.
They come from all over
written by Guest, June 26, 2005
Brazilians are not the only ones who come to the USA with a tourist visa and decide to stay. They come from all over the world. Noone can tell who is planning on staying as they go to an American consulate to get a visa. What's the criterion? Making decisions at random is unfair.
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written by Guest, June 26, 2005
Yes, arbitrary decision making is unfair, and making decisions based on stereotyping is unfair. Negotiations that require the US to review the rationality of its process vis-à-vis Brazilians would be beneficial to both sides.
Israelis too
written by Guest, June 26, 2005
American Consulates are denying visas all over. In Israel it's so hard to get a tourist visa to the USA that's unbelievable. They get into your privacy , act unfriendly and lack any courtesy. It's harder to get a visa to the US now than a passport to heaven. How are they bringing the Olympics here? Bush won't be at the White House, so maybe things will be different by then and people can actually come to attend the Olympics. But the choice is to be made soon. And it doesn't look good right now.
THunderstorm
written by Guest, June 26, 2005
Ms. Porto's article caused a thunderstorm and that's what articles should do. Great writing. I'm sending your article to everybody in my mailing list. And I'm seriously considering sending it to the American Embassy in Brazil. What's wrong with these people?
BRAVO!
written by Guest, June 26, 2005
Great article, great point. Great criticism from a foreign New Yorker I have friends who would like to come to the USA for a visit and can't make it because of the difficulty for obtaining a visa. It sucks.
Our economy is is going down the drain and things are not going to get any better with US Consulates preventing tourists from travelling to the US.
We don't need Brazilian tourists? Yes, we do. Brazilians, French, Argentinians, Dutch, Israelis, Martians and Venusians. We need tourism. It makes the economy grow and besides, are we or are we not one of the best countries in the world?
It is also a shame the way the INS mistreats authorities. What was done to Senator Kennedy is disrespectful, and because INS people are doing it to American authorities doesn't justify any disrespect for foreign authorities.
We are the powerful USA, yes. But if we are so good, we should start changing the way we treat people from other countries.
Go treat your anger
written by Guest, June 26, 2005
So uch anger and hatred in some of these readers. Get treatment. As for the article, very well put. This is a free country, a democracy and people should be allowed to come and visit. As for illegal immigrants, it's a whole different issue and it should be addressed better by US officials. The truth is Americans let it happen because it is convenient. Ilegal immigrants mean cheap labor and Texans know that better than anyone. So does President Bush. Why doesn't he get more security in our borders instead of scaring tourists away? The whole thing is wrong and Ms.Porto's article, although very well written, was too gentle.
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written by Guest, June 26, 2005
much anger - please above
Go abroad and see
written by Guest, June 26, 2005
Have any of you angry creatures up there been abroad lately? Have you been abroad before Bush? If you had, you would know the difference. And the truth is Americans are very welcome in Brazil. They don't just welcome you, they will cherish you. They might be third world and uneducated (and this is an unfortunate generalization), but they will go out of their way to make you feel good.
Even with all the negative politics of intrusion of the US in the past, i.e. the military coup, and being denied visas at the moment, Brazilians are one of the most receptive people I've seen. And I have travelled all over the places.
And you know what, you angry creatures? They are third world, but they are happy. Are you, with your first world anger?
Not a different issue
written by Guest, June 26, 2005

Unfortunately, overstaying visa's is not a different issue. The consulate puts some reasonable criteria on tourist visa's, such as owning property. I know you all love to take the moral high ground and preach about inequality and racism and unfairness. But you have to face the reality of the situation and the reality is, Brasil has one of the largest illegal alien populations in the USA. This isn't some theoretical professorial nonsense, it's fact. And they come here and have babies and use health care and services and don't pay. They work in illegal jobs with expired visa's. To say brasilians are not the only ones is correct, but does that mean we should just condone it? If we all lived in some utopian society and everyone obeyed all laws, wouldn't it be grand? But we don't and we can't and for this reason, there are rules and requirements. Sometimes they impact the people they weren't intended to.

Bush is wrong in most everything he does, I'll agree, but why should the USA bear the cost of illegals after they are here, whether through increased security or the social cost and burden, if it can be reasonably prevented before it happens.

It's very easy for all of you to sit in judgement of America, but then you don't have to deal with the problems illegal immigration on the scale that we do. It's also easy to criticize the USA for everything we do, but then the reason you are complaining is that you want to come here.

Hypocrisy!!!!
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written by Guest, June 26, 2005
BRAZIL AFTER MEXICO HAS THE SECOND LARGEST ILLEGAL POPULATION IN THE UNITED STATES FROM LATIN AMERICA

LET'S REMEMBER

PUERTO RICANS ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS BY BIRTH
AND CUBANS ARE POLITICAL REFUGEES WITH LEGALIZED STATUS

BRAZILIANS ON THE OTHER HAND ARE THE SECOND MEXICANS, MANY COME HERE ILLEGALY AND STAY, AND DO MEANIAL JOBS ETC.

THERE ARE ABOUT 1.5 MILLION BRAZILIANS IN THE USA, FROM WHOM 800K ARE ESTIMATED LIVING ILLEGALY HERE.
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written by Guest, June 26, 2005
Brazilians are invisible in the USA

they aren't officially recognized by the US government, and they are virtually unimportant.

the best thing the brazilian community in the USA can do is to stick to the much bigger, much stronger, much more influential, far more accepted into american diaspora Hispanic community.

they can benefit more from having minority status, do you know how many powerful influential hispanic politicians are out there nowadays?

do you know how many hispanics get green cards in the USA after they were illegaly living there?

hundreths of thousanths.

you know why? because they have done everything they can to not be invisible like the brazilians are, they are officially a minority, and it's unfair, because many hispanics especially tons of cubans and puerto ricans, could easily go as white and be part of the majority, yet they rather stick to their hispanic status; i personally know lots of half white/half hispanic people, who rather claim to be hispanic, it pays to be a minority!!!

I also know a whole lot of white women married to hispanic men, who change their anglo name to a hispanic one, and automatically become hispanics because of their last name, which qualifies them as a minority.

here in san diego our broadcaster, a white girl, didnt even marry a hispanic man, she changed her name to carvajal, and booom she was the reporter because of her last name.

and that is what hispanics have, a lot of political power!! and fastly becoming very economically influential too.

why do you think all those companiesl ike wallmart, citibank, k mart etc, catter to hispanics in their language? because they are economically powerful

so i think the best thing an illegal brazilian inmigrant in america can do, is stick to his hispanic brothers.


Governor
written by Guest, June 26, 2005
To try to keep unwanted cheap foreigner labor force out of the U.S. is one thing, to disrespect a Brazilian authority in an official visit to the U.S is a completely different matter. It is disrespect to our country. I wonder if the governor of Alagoas has issued a formal complain to the US embassy in Brazil......
Missing a greater issue
written by Guest, June 26, 2005

Was it wrong to disrespect a Brasilian authority? Of course, it's wrong.
Now get over it! Things happen everyday in every corner of the world that are wrong. You want to blame a whole nation for the actions of an overzealous diplomat.

I swear if Brazilians would put half the energy into resolving the real social problems of their own country and stop using the US as a scapegoat for their unhappiness, we would all be better off.

Your country is a mess because you haven't the guts to make change the way the Americans did.
Good points
written by Guest, June 27, 2005
I think this person makes a good point about the blaming the US for all their problems. And the point about hypocrisy rings true throughout the world. They all claim to hate America and hate their way of life yet they all want to go there. I think it's simple, if you don't like something and you are not forced to do it, don't.

While you all speak of all the virtuous reasons you want free and open borders to "visit" other countries, the 800,000 illegal brazilians living in the US illegally says a lot.

An old expression "What you do speaks so loudly, I cannot hear what you say"

You cause "disrespect" for your country by not facing the facts. Laws are created because of situations that demand them to be created. 800,000 (minimum) illegals created the need for the law and the legimate brazilians who want the freedom to travel to the US sometimes pay the price. But place the blame where it belongs, in Brazil and the corrupt government that creates the need to escape. If you want to be mad, and you should be mad , put on your boots and march to Brasilia and demand to be given opportunities in your country so you don't need to be living in mine illegally. It's what makes America great, the people are willing to demand a better hand and are willing to pay a price. You brazilians don't get to use that for free.
You get over it
written by Guest, June 27, 2005
"I swear if Brazilians would put half the energy into resolving the real social problems of their own country and stop using the US as a scapegoat for their unhappiness, we would all be better off."

Gosh, I don't see that in the article at all. But, you must be the same guy who always says this. You read an aritcle and you automatically start crying about Brazilians "blaming" the US. You get over it.
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written by Guest, June 27, 2005
By the way, did anyone notice there's a pattern when that guy posts. He writes about how Brazilians need to act (according to his twisted view of Brazil as people who never try to solve their own probems and always blame the US) and it's always followed by another post that is a variation of "Good Point!" Either these knuckleheads are room mates, or the same guy always writes another post after his that "supports" his. You are full of it guy(s).
Re: Missing the greater issue
written by Guest, June 27, 2005
The article is quite straight forward and in no way is blaming the US for Brazil's problems or making a scapegoat of it. I have no idea where you are getting that from. Maybe you don't know how to read. Or maybe you have some strange paranoia that leads you to scapegoating where it doesn't exist. Either get into a school that will teach you to read, or get with your doctor and titrate your meds, because I think the dosage is off.
Time Out!
written by Guest, June 27, 2005
Have some fun...

http://www.amishdonkey.com/numa-numa.php

Tiau!
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written by Guest, June 27, 2005
Some balance wrote:

nullThe author speaks of a "black governor". Has Brazil ever had a black state governor???

Yes, Brazil has had at leat one black state governor: Alceu Collares, in the state of Rio Grande do Sul in the late 1980s.
The real issue
written by Guest, June 27, 2005
The article addresses an issue that is important and true, without attacks or offenses, just based on facts.
I am from Israel and we have similar problems as explained in the article. Not only it is very hard to get a visa to come to the USA, but we are poorly treated by consulate officers. This is not good or fair.
There is also another 'detail.' Light skinned Israelis have a much easier time to get tourist visas to the US than dark skinned Israelis. So they go to Australia instead.
I have friends with similar situations, even similar amounts of money in the bank (an important condition), property, all that is required. They were planning summer in the US, but only the light skinned got a tourist visa. It's tough, it's unfair, but it's real. This is what the article addresses. Not illegal immigration. In the US illegal immigrants have bank accounts, credit cards (some banks charge a fee for credit cards without the official american number, social security), they have telephones and everything else. The borders are not well secured because Texan farmers need cheap labor.
I praise Ms. Porto's article and I can't understand all the anger some of these readers (or will it be just one, as the guest points out above, under the title Missing the greater issue?
Clara,, Stop Complaining!!!!
written by Guest, June 27, 2005
Waaa..waaaa waaaa.. I cant get a visa.. Oh well, too bad.. Protecting America's borders is our first priority. Brasilians arent treated any different than any other immigrtants trying to get In to this country. I was married in Brasil right after 911 and the picketing of the US Consulate in Rio endorsing the attacks literally made me cry.
Yes, it is more difficult post 911 but its totally understandable. Terrorist come from all countries, including Brasil.

NEVER AGAIN!!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!

JAMES H.
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written by Guest, June 27, 2005
Right on. Why respond with anger to such a well written article on a situation that is indeed unfair? Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Some think that American Consulates should deny tourist visas at random, even if this is causing a drop in tourism in the US. Some think they shouldd have a different policy. Fine, we can think differently. But shouldn't we all think that our consulates should treat people well? Aren't we supposed to have manners? And why is it easier for light skinned people to get tourist visas? Why airport immigrantion authorities are mistreating foreign authorities and even regular tourists? This is not right and I agree with Mr. Porto one hundred percent.
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written by Guest, June 27, 2005
Not issuing visas to tourists is very different from protecting our borders. The article doesn't complain, it deals with facts and the author says what she thinks. It's a well written opinion. But you do the complaining, James. I'm getting the feeling here that some Americans don't want tourists. How do you think that states like Florida get their economy going?
A Bigot?
written by Guest, June 27, 2005
Ms. Porto has written a clear, concise article which underscores how the arrogance of the American government is costing it friends at a time when it more than ever needs allies. She is to be commended for throwing some light on an asinine policy.

What troubles me about a few, the happy minority to be sure, of these comments is how they resort to denigrationg rather than civil discourse. I know this has become the norm in Karl Rove's America but doesn't a writer like Guest grasp how silly his or her comments look when he or she resorts to such snide commentary?

Look at what Guest wrote at 17-09-25 and see if you don't detect the narrowest of intellects.

For exampleThe author is a xenophobic Brazilian bigot living in New York.

Question: Where is your evidence of that?

As a Canadian going into Brazil I see and speak with many Americans. The consensus is that the Brazilians are rascist.

Point: There are, skippy, over 320 million Americans currently living in our borders. How many have told you that Brazilians are racist. 2? 20? 200? 2000? You can't possibly claim a consensus for your notion because at best you communicate with a miniscule portion of our populace and a miniscule portion of those Americans who regularly visit Brazil. I could introduce you to hundreds of Americans who would dispute your claim. You are projecting your own bias onto a mass to give it credibility when in fact it is nothing more than your own opinion, one that lacks the weight of evidence.

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written by Guest, June 27, 2005
James H., the author isn't complaining, she's just reporting the facts. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are the facts that difficult for you do deal with that you must resort to lies and insults? And why would you defend unprofessional behavior of Homeland Security personnel? And your statement that terrorists come from Brasil is unsupported paranoia.
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written by Guest, June 27, 2005
Finally a well written comment from someone who actually have a real brain. I agree that Ms. Porto has written not only a clear and concise article, but maybe because she is a foreigner living in New York, she did it with such elegance, that she reports the facts, states her opinion, but never became offensive or ungraceful in her criticism. Even when she states that this kind of behavior in American Consulates could affect the decision to bring the Olympics to New York, she defends New York, and she says she loves New York. You are right, Guest06-27 at 11:04:42. Ms Porto is to be commended. Her elegance and gracefulness to be learned.
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written by Guest, June 27, 2005
I think this is an incredible debate. I bet Ms. Porto must be very happy if she is following all this. I hope she is. And I don't know if you noticed, but have you seen how the angry people all sound alike? They keep talking about protecting our borders. Have they read the article? Or maybe they are so blindfolded that they can't tell what this article really is about?
Bravo for Ms. Porto, who elegantly criticized a behavior that is way out of line.
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written by Guest, June 27, 2005
I dunno, the article is not well written, there were "facts" but nothing substantiated. I have a hard time believing that Brazilians are number two in US tourism, when the canucks cross the boarder in droves and snow birds pass their winters in Florida. Maybe it's true, but without citing some sort of study it's just hersay.

Also why on earth would a Governor NOT want to have his named mentioned? What kinda of cowardly political move is this? Christ, most Governor's would be screaming bloody murder - loud and ad naseum, complaining about how they were snubbed by authorities. These folks don't rise to the levels they do by being silent sissies.

I have no doubts that many are being mistreated at the boarders of the US these days. But not just Brazilians. I've had my own experiences there too, and I use to pass quite a deal of time in hyper-consumer-land. But, well before 9/11 and well before bush. Same problems, different admin.

If you don't like the deal, don't go. I don't know why anyone would want to travel there these days anyways.
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written by Guest, June 27, 2005
Did you read the article? Can you understand English? Because you obviously can't write it. The article says Brazil was second in the 90s. And this is not supposed to be an academic paper. It's an opinion based on facts. 'If you don't like the deal, don't go.' What kind of brains you have anyway?
tourists
written by Guest, June 27, 2005
Brazilians are not number 2 in tourists. They are number 2 in illegal aliens overstaying their visa in US. A big distinction. Based on thatt alone, it's going to make he visa process more difficult. Europeans and Canadians have easy access but then they visit and go home.
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written by Guest, June 27, 2005
You're right. Brazilians are not number 2, they used to be in the 90s, says the article. American visas are being denied not only to Brazilians, but it is harder to mostly everybody. Israelis have a hard time too.
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written by Guest, June 27, 2005
With guys like this hump above trying to defend rude Homeland Security personnel, I'd have to say yes, go to Europe where people are nice, there's plenty of culture, things to do, good food, and importantly, no paranoia.
Re: promoted from Village to Town Idiot
written by Guest, June 27, 2005
Being that you are a Nobel Prize Winner in the category of lunatics, morons, and idiots, I am delighted to say, thanks for the complement!

Again keep up your racist talk, and you will "hated" by Americans.

If American companies pulled out of Brazil, Brazilians would be living like the Amazon Indians within a year, in mud huts!

You are a third world country that "wipes it's ass, and throws the toilet paper on the side of the toilet."

You are surrounded by " intrigues" that are beyond your scope of understanding!

This article is just another example of "racist speak" designed to wind you up and turn you loose to walk and talk about how "nobody likes Americans nowadays."

GUESS WHAT, AMERICANS DON'T GIVE A FLYING CRAP!

AND YOU WONT EITHER WHEN OR IF YOU BECOME "TOP DOG!"



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written by Guest, June 27, 2005
If American authorities don't want illegal immigrants, why don't they make policies for banks, credit cards, telephone companies, electrical companies and all utilities and make regular visits to restaurants and businesses in general asking for employees documents? Why they don't check the borders the way they should?
There are many ways of controlling illegal immigration in this country, and it seems to me the government is not interested because the money guys need illegal workers' cheap labor and no rights.
They can't have rights because they don't exist, right? But they do, through hard work.
There are ways and ways of addressing the problem. Denying visa to tourists is not the best way, and official numbers are already showing this. I don't know many Brazilians, but I love their music, and their beaches. I also think they are friendly people and I don't understand all the offenses against Brazilians. If there illegal Brazilians in the US this is not a reason to refer to Brazilians in general as if they were our enemies. Because they are not.
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written by Guest, June 27, 2005
Send your lovely women to the USA, but stay your hairy leg ass in Brazil!
\"I dunno\"
written by Guest, June 27, 2005
That's true, you "dunno," but that doesn't stop you from popping off. You really are full of opinions but no facts. Your post is a joke. Keep your pie hole closed if you "dunno" what you're talking about. Maybe, just maybe, someone who has studied the facts, like the author, does know something that might be contrary to your ignorant opinions.
Re: Re: promoted from Village to Town Id
written by Guest, June 27, 2005
You certainly are a shining example of American hospitality. You make us so proud.
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written by Guest, June 27, 2005
On behalf of my country, I nominate him to be elevated to Ugly Ignorant American First Class, representing everything that is the worst the US has to offer.
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written by Guest, June 27, 2005
"Did you read the article? Can you understand English? Because you obviously can't write it. The article says Brazil was second in the 90s. And this is not supposed to be an academic paper. It's an opinion based on facts."

What FACTS are your talking about? If that is you idea of an article based on facts, than you are leading a sorry life indeed.
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written by Guest, June 27, 2005
"The article says Brazil was second in the 90s."

That makes it even harder to believe - dips**t.
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written by Guest, June 27, 2005

Americans loosing their palance! I remembered after 9/11, as international students, we were treated very bad by the university that some of us were about to go home back.

This attitude stoped so many international students from applying to that school.

Now after many years, the dean of that graduate school sends us an email every week asking for suggestions to brings students again!

Now, when they start the pay the prize of their own attitude, the American seem to be shocked by it!

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written by Guest, June 27, 2005
ahh is not only brazil, in my case I am from Colombia and I wanted to go study there, to Columbia university, I had the money, the connections and everything to go there and study and graduate!

They day I went to the consulate in Colombia, the inmigration officials were a bunch of bitter looking Americans and they treated people like s**t, when it was my turn I told her what I wanted to do in the US, and the Spanglish speaking ugly Nuyorican-American bitch said NO!!

so I said in spanish, f**k you American bitch and she looked at me weird and I left right away LOL before something happened, like me getting arrested or something.

The next day I called the local French consultate and made an appointment with the them, not only they treated me nice, they asked me to bring far less paperwork, and they were a lot more respectful to me, far more friendly; shoot they even offered the people who were waiting in line, coffee while we were waiting to see the inmigration officials.

When I told her why I wanted to reside in France, the french inmigration official instantly said with a smile "but sure my friend! is always nice to have hard working intelligent people, study at our universities!!"

right now I am currently studying in France!! meeting beautiful french women and being accepted into a marvelous sophisticated culture, thank God the Americans didnt want me, I would be in their country probably being discriminated against for the simple fact that according to Americans, I speak the language of the Mexicans (people who I have nothing against).




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written by Guest, June 27, 2005
It is an editorial piece, but it does cite facts and is based on interviews. The statistic you dispute, for example, is just one of the facts relied upon. I'm curious. What facts do you have to refute the statistic cited? Ahem…dips**t.
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written by Guest, June 27, 2005

One of my friends tried six times before they issued him a visa. He is a doctor and highly educated, but his fault he was coming from so-called third world country.

Now the guy is helping the American in very complicated operations such as kidney transplanting. Nevertheless, he still faces humiliation whenever he walks through an airport!

What a mess!
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written by Guest, June 27, 2005

Clara really touched a nerve with this piece. Freedom is such a wonderful thing and the freedom of movement is the most cherished. I fear my fellow americans have gone too far in restricting visas. The 9/11 scenario has been a convenient excuse for Bush and his fascist friends to abuse power.
All the talk of illegal immigrants is interesting and certainly a problem. Bush probably has several working his ranch for him. America has every right to protect it's borders but the abuse of that right is disturbing.
I have always found brasilians charming people and very good guests. The ones who come here and stay illegally are in desperation. Nobody just picks up and leaves their homeland and family just because they want to live in the US.

If the US made a sincere effort to help latin america and not exploit it, maybe there wouldn't be a reason to come here and we could all visit each others lands and learn from each other.

Re: ahh is not only brazil...
written by Guest, June 27, 2005
Your experience sounds exactly like my experience dealing with the State and Federal "gatekeepers" in the USA.

They seem to hire the nastiest, rudest, low lifes for these positions. Most of the time you just give up and walk away in exasperation!

It's not just a foreign experience, but Americans experience the same crap from these troll-assed gatekeepers!
Re: You certainly are a shining...
written by Guest, June 27, 2005
Just stating the obvious!

You wouldn't let just anyone in your house!

You cant have an open door policy!

Now about the Mexicans, I agree with the guest above who says that the USA is hypocritical about who they let in.

If you are white, your right, if your black, get back!

If your brown come on down!
Re: stick to his hispanic brothers...
written by Guest, June 27, 2005
Here we go again, another scheming, power hungry (at someone else expense), can't make it in his own homeland, immigrant coming to America to make his make up against the wall!

What is it about your own countries that you cant just go up to your oppressors and demand your rights?



stick to his hispanic brothers
written by Guest, June 27, 2005
because brazilians like mexicans are gutless and always looking for the easy way out. if they were really cared they would take down their oppressors and take their rights. but that takes courage and guts and why bother when you can just come to america and freeload
immigrants
written by Guest, June 27, 2005
i think america(USA) was create by immigrants, If a american look at his/her's family tree they are going to see that someone from their family is a immigrant. i saw a report the other day and it state that 1 out of 6 that live in america (american or legal citizen out 287 million)to me that seen a lot and i still think that america function because of the immigrant.
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written by Guest, June 28, 2005
waaaa!! waaaaa!! waaaa!!! - mommy, the customs man wasn't nice to me
waaa!! waaaa!!! waaaa!!! - mommy, they didn't treat me special at the consulate.

whining,crying,pissing little brasilian bitches
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written by Guest, June 28, 2005
I am the Colombian guy again

HISPANIC / LATINO: Another crap that has kept me away and will keep me away from the US

I f**king HATE to be called those two f**king words!!! hispanic or latino

thank God that is only inside the US, here in beautiful more sophisticated, far more evolved France, people is more aware of other's cultures and ethnicities, so they don't call them by these stupid moronic simplyfied terms americans use!
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written by Guest, June 28, 2005
Colombian guy again

Brazilians come to Europe, here they'll love you!!

f**k AmeriKKKa and its cheesy hollywood crap mostly remakes of foreign movies

f**k their cheap cars

their ugly fat women (most of them)

their balkanized racially segregated society

COME TO FRANCE!! A NATION WITH A REAL CULTURE!
To The Gutless French Guy
written by Guest, June 28, 2005
Listen here, you stinking French Frog,

Why do you French hate America so much? I'll tell ya why.. Jealousy... We are the most powerful nation on earth. Our cultrue, music, movies are the most popular and copied in the world today. If it werent for us, you'd be speaking German.

GOD BLESS AMERICA AND F THE FRENCH...

JAMES H
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written by Guest, June 28, 2005
One semi-decent joke is about the French Army rifle on e-bay. "Never fired - only dropped once."

From one of the funniest quotes came from a relative who was in the Army during WWII and was in Europe after the war.

To wit: "The French are so rude, it is no wonder that every time a German gets a gun he heads West."
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written by Guest, June 28, 2005
what cultures does america have? and by the way IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE HELP OF THE FRENCH DURING THE REVOLUTION ,AMERICA(UNITED STATES OF AMERICA) WOULD BE CALL"UNITED KINGDOM OF ENGLAND" DURING THE REVOLUTION.
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written by Guest, June 28, 2005
Well said friend, Americans have a very short memory ...
Stop Stereotyping
written by Guest, June 28, 2005
The article and many of the ignorant and hateful responces showcase our willingness to generalize and stereotype. First, I must say, I find the story of the "unidentified" Brazilian governor VERY difficult to believe. However, as an American with a Brazilian lover, I know that getting a visa to come here is difficult, especially for the lower and middle classes. In fact, since 9/11, it has become almost imposible for any ordinary Brazilian to come here. However, my personal experience has shown me that those with money and power have little or no problems. Regardless, Brazilians have always treated me well during the two dozen visits I have made to the country. I also find that most Americans that have visited Brazil love the country, her beaches, it's culture and it's people . I hope we can work toward finding common ground and changing the current Administration's overreaction to the terrorism crisis. Yet I also hope that people will realize that all of us are human beigns with little to do with our place of birth and /or our social and economic status. All of us have a lot more in common than some of us seem willing to acknowledge.
What is all the fuss about?
written by Guest, June 28, 2005
This is nothing new but rather, State Departement "standard operating procedure." It is called "racial profiling" that has been going on since the 60s.

I for one, given my genotype, blonde with blue eyes, even though Brazilina by birth, never had any toruble. On the other, friends of mine having the latin appearance, weren't so lucky, being denied entry for no sustainable reason(s). Americans did not invent racism but surely, they refined it to an art form.

Tne other point is the fascination that many who never stepped in the United States, possess. They think the american streets are painted in gold....it blows my mind.

The US is basically a s**t hole, rude people, abusive authorities, no culture, bad food, dirty cities, and lots of lard asses. The only thing going there is the opportunity to make money. But men does not live by money alone. There are many spots far superior to the US, Canada is 100 times better in every sense!

Let the Americans think they are the greatest, who cares! I have a good laugh everytime a see their flag being burned somewhere around the globe.

I just feel bad for some of the good Americans, and there are many really well intentioned people there. I for one, separate those good citizens from the rest of the American garbage.

That's my 2 cents...Good day!

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written by Guest, June 28, 2005
Everybody seems to be forgetting that one of the main points of the article is to say that when American Consulates deny visas at random and unwelcome tourists, not only the numbers drop but this may count when it comes to deciding if New York will host the Olympics.
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written by Guest, June 28, 2005
All the cursing at Brazilians is so sad. Ms. Porto gave us her opinion in a brilliant and elegant way. And I'm sorry to see here how some of my fellow Americans seem to have so much hate against immigrants. Do you forget you come from immigrants yourself?

No potential tourist deserves to be mistreated in our Consulates throughout the world.

It is true about color too. I know a family who applied for visas. The parents, light skinned, got it. The daughter, dark olive brunette, was denied a visa. No explanation and my friends never came for the promised visit.

Now because of this attitude, our tourism numbers are dropping, And our universities are trying to get foreign students to come here again.

So please stop bragging, cursing and just give the subject some thought. We are proud to be Americans and we should fight for a more democratic and fair country.
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written by Guest, June 28, 2005
Ms. Porto's article started quite a debate. This is what good writing does.
Congratulations.
Too bad some of these people are way out of line. Apparently, just like some gove