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has is called, the USA.

I do enjoy Dine´s articles; they are always informative. However, being a Brazilian, Alberto shouldn’t be too surprised at the attacks being launched against the 4th Estate. It is a Brazilian tactic, and used ad nausea throughout the country. Deflection! Look to our only poster above to see a sample of this tactic. The article is about how politicians from the PT are trying to deflect their problems onto the press, and the poster above deflects the Brazil’s woes onto the US. No one takes responsibility for anything. Brazil will slunk along for another 500 years with everyone pointing their figures at everyone else saying “it’s not my fault”, and nothing will ever be achieved.

The CPI process appears useless, futile, and rather childish too. Just another forum for people to dodge the truth; blame others, while leaving the country further confused than usual. No wonder the media has taken on the task of investigating. No one else has.

Brazil's enemies: the corrupt police, the dishonest judges, incompetent public administrators, irresponsible money-suckers entrepreneurs and politicians. And, of course, people like you! The people that are now involved in the worse political corruption case in history in Brazil are not Americans!

A Brazilian with a clue !

I agree mostly with you post but I am not sure whether this "political corruption case" is the worst. I would say this one is the only one well exposed. I believe that corruption in Brazil was always the case in great style but at this time, the influence from the media triggered this clown’s show.

A Brazilian

This probably is not the worse case. I wish someone would write an article about corruption in Italy. or the mafia. I think Brazil inherited most of its corruption know-how from them.

------I think Brazil inherited most of its corruption know-how from them.----

you are right! --------------> See second post. he he he

I'm in favor of a long-term approach to eliminate corruption in Brazil. Here are some of the measures:
1) The creation of a group called: Brazilians Living abroad against Corruption. This group would be supported financially by Brazilians abroad but would lobby in Brasilia.
2) Anti-corruption curricula to be implemented in all schools in Brazil;
3) Bonus programs for those employed in public service that has a proven record of honesty in the job;
4) The creation of a privilege-free maximum security prison for high security criminals - white collars criminals - administered by an International Security Force – Brazilians’ tax money would have to be allocated to cover the costs.
5) The creation of an independent news organization that would denounce corruption and praise honesty!


If you can help me to brainstorm some ideas, please do so.
Signed: BLAC

finally an article that is clear and show all Lula's contradictions.
Yes....he refuted originally everything that is being proved now.
Yes....he said it was a tactic from opposition and from your elite.

As he could no longer refute facts.....he said....but everyone does it !!!! smile.........

Yes...he said he is ready to cut into their own flesh...but never said into HIS own flesh.

Sure, a few will be punished...so they will proclaim...we cleaned everything......forgetting to say that the deep rooted corruption is still everywhere in our country.

Let also see what he will do with last night proposition from senate to increase minimum wages to 384 reals.
From his origin and for what he defended with assiduity during all his life.....even after being elected president.....he should only approve the proposal !!!!!!!!
In 2003 and 2004 he already was against the proposed rise. He reduced the increase proposed by the senate !!!!

The rumor now is that if the proposal is accepted by congress.....Lula will vetoe it !!!

If so.....what a great President he will again demonstrate he is....especially coming from a party that pretend to represent the workers and the poors !!!!!

If we will vetoe...once more he will show how traitor he became to the left and the needy people....after being elected by them !!!

This is not the worst political problem..... !!!

This one just covers up the one that ended in December of 2004.
On the 18 of deccember 2004, your lawmakers decided to not open an investigation on the biggest ever money laundering scandal....amounting to USD 32 billions....yessss billions not millions.

NORMAL : 91 POLITICIANS WERE NAMED...FROM MOST IF NOT ALL POLITICAL PARTIES !!!!!!!!

The f**king own people! how dumb is this PT party, buying senators and suchs to pass laws, so they could show something being build or working!...why did they pay? because there's a lot of f**king parties and a lot of traitors. you will see, nothing will happen, nobody will be hang or arrest! is just the same circus. There's the robbers and robbers acussing each other, but they will not fix nothing! they want the same easy way to keep robing!! And any f**ker blood Brazilian would steal any money! f**king low moral Brazilians, they lie for each other, and the politicians lie to the people, and they belive this country is the best country in the world. f**k, yes, is the f**king Eldorado! come down, and rob in easy! they f**king love to be robbed!

Bite your tongue or better yet, swallow it!

Who do you think you are? Shameful person, disgrace of the human race. Whatever is your country, it is worse with someone like you.

No one should be rude and impolite in this forum...!!!
And 99 % of the Brazilian people must be respected.
But 1 % is the elite, the politicians, the lawmakers....and they are responsible for ALL the problems endured by the citizens.

1 % should represents around400'000/500'000 adult peoplewho are fighting between themselves to get more power...through various gangs (political parties)...to rob the 99 % of honest citizens. They are so powerfull...that as expained above...they even decided (the lawmakers) to "forget" and pardonnned the 91 politicians named in the 32 billions USDollars money laundering scandal by officially and legally not investigate the case.

Decision taken on december 18, 2004

Just a healthy purging under a growing democracy. And, the guy above is correct. The corruption investigations have hit just about every political party. It shows that corruption is a way of life in Brazil and that people are fed up with it. It's also a result of political competition that results from democracy. Good.

Is Lula himself corrupt? Who knows? I don't think so, I hope not, but we'll see. If he is, he's out the door with the rest of them. If not, don't throw him in with the rest of the corrupt lot. There are a lot of people willing to throw the baby out with the bath water. I say purge the bad ones and keep the honest ones.

Has the press been against Lula? Of course. Does he have a right to complain? Sure. The press is controlled by a bunch of rich motherf**kers who have hated Lula from the start. Should Lula try to impose laws that infringe on the freedom Yet be allowed to publish the thinly veiled propaganda it trys to pass off as news in England if it were owned by a British company, but it's basically given a pass because its audience is supposedly mostly American). Did Lula shoot himself in the foot with his efforts? Yes, he sure did. He gave knuckleheaded right-wingers the ammunition to constantly assert erroneously that Lula has tried to institute a "democratic dictatorship" (pure nonsense).

Oh, well, so it goes…good luck Brazil. Don't let the bastards get you down.

The above should read (inadvertent erasure):

Should Lula try to impose laws that infringe on the freedom of the press? Well he tried, but failed. That's democracy in action. Nevertheless, what Lula proposed didn't sound that far from what exists in England, and no one bitches much about that. (I heard one British journalist say that Fox would not be allowed to allowed to publish the thinly veiled propaganda it trys to pass off as news in England if it were owned by a British company, but it's basically given a pass because its audience is supposedly mostly American)…etc.

"Is Lula himself corrupt? Who knows? I don't think so, I hope not, but we'll see. "

Well, if he is not corrupt then he is too naive for the position. However, in case he is just naive, he is definitely learning the bitter lessons of governance. Brazil is a very difficult country to govern. Lula has to please 180 millions Brazilians, each one with different expectations. That is a though job.

"Well, if he is not corrupt then he is too naive for the position."

I'm sorry, but that is a naive position to take. He may have to accept political responsibility, but no thinking person can actually believe that he has control over everyone in the PT or perfect knowledge of what everyone is doing. Furthermore, you don't seem to recognize that all the parties are guilty of some measure of corruption. Don't kill the people who are not involved. Go after the rotten ones and keep the honest ones.

Capitalism, Communism, not even socialism , Brazil has a new system Corruption ism , and sadly the Brazilian people feel comfortable even proud of their home grown way(s)

Capitalism, Communism, not even socialism , America has a new system Greed ism , and sadly the American people feel wonderful even proud of their home grown trait(s)

Wow, you're both right! And you were able to share these insights from such a far distance without even meeting! It's a great time to be alive, isn't it?

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