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US Needs to Learn What's Fair Trade When Dealing with Brazil and the FTAA PDF Print E-mail
2005 - October 2005
Written by Ji Kim and Min Sun Kim   
Monday, 17 October 2005 15:52

Brazilian cottonThis means that an alternative model must be found to end the standoff over the FTAA, if that pact is to move forward. Such an alternative could be found by changing the fundamental calculus of the agreement. The substantial asymmetry among the trading partners and the basic needs of ordinary citizens should be taken into consideration during the negotiations, rather than focusing solely on the single factor of economic profitability.

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not really clear.....
written by Guest, October 18, 2005
...what is missing in your analysis is......Reciprocal...or Reciprocity.

1) Brazil also subsidizes heavily their farmers with much lower interet rates than others have to borrow.
2) Brazil has an export tax of 23 % on grains....that could be cancelled and be replaced with non farm subsidizes !
3) Brazil already has a very high overall trade balance with developed nations. Do they want always more but not be ready to import more ????
4) They are threatening China textile exports to Brazil....but this represents only 1 % of their textile industry. If they find that 1 % is a threat.....we could say the same......as to the products they export...to us !!!!!!!
5) If they would lower their unjustified interest rates....they would have a higher internal growth. But they look only at external growth.....to compensate....for their mismanagement of their internal growth !!!!
6) in Brazil, government's money never goes to social programs, health, education and then they tell us that it is because of us. Wrong ! They are responsible of their budgets.
7) They distribute so little that they are the champions of wealth disparitie sand social inequalities. This is their problem not ours.
smilies/cool.gif Their tax collection is truly bad...and tax evasion is the name of the game. By doing a proper tax collection.....there would be more money ion their coffers.....for social distribution !
9) 40 % of the Brazil economy is uninformal. This avoid taxes, social security payments, and pensions payments. And then they, indirectly, put the responsibily on wrong arguments.
10) They export too much basic commodities and do not transform them to added value products. This would generate millions of jobs and billions of taxes !
11) They do not want to pay for software as pirating is their name of the game !This also avoid.....taxes.
12) Same for drugs

Simply stated they want everything for free but expect us to pay very high prices for their products. They want us to open our doors....but dont want to open their doors !!!!

Reciprocity is simply not in their language and even less in their dictionary when it concerns the opening of their doors.
They offer very little to what they expect from us.

So....unfair or unfree trade....is done because of Brazil, not the developped nations.

The overall trade balance is highly in Brazil favor !!!!!

What do they expect more....from us ????????????
...simply stated....
written by Guest, October 18, 2005

....FAIR trade could only be done when and if there is/will FREE trade.

Brazil doesnt not accept FREE trade.
That is where the impasse is !!!!!

Brazil is a similar country than India, a country of castes, bureaucracy, red tape, briberies, and corruption !!!!!!! They have such a waste that they are afraid and refuse Free Trade !!!!!!

Brazil is not competitive....except in agriculture.
Brazil is not even competitive with many developing nations.....also except on agriculture !!!!!
But agriculture is very small in any national GDPs and require relatively small numbers of farmers due to the size of Brazilian farms.

They have mismanaged their country for....decades !!!!!!!

They are called a Boom and Bust country.....for a very good reason. the reason being they count only on basic commodities.....no value added goods !!!

A simple demonstration is that we dont have the same problems with the Asian countries, also developping nations, than with Latin and South Americans countries.

THAT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF !!!!

That is a SAD REALITY !!!!!

Cheers



AND........
written by Guest, October 18, 2005


.....Brazil Needs to Learn What's Free Trade When Dealing With The USA and the FTAA !!!!

Brazil voluntarily also mix up WTO and WAO !!!!

WAO stands for World Agriculture Organization....BUT.....this does not exist....YET...except in Lula 's imagination !!!!!!

Can someone tell him that the T in the WTO means TRADE and not Agriculture ???????

Please do him a favor. He will look less stupid !!!!
Proceed with Caution, Brasil !!
written by Guest, October 19, 2005
Canada has been party to a free trade agreement with the USA for some time. Although there have been significant benefits to Canada there has been a real downside when dealing with such a powerful neighbour. The United States has imposed unfair and illegal tariffs on Canadian softwood lumber imports for a number of years. This, despite repeated rulings and appeals that find in favour of Canada. The USA simply ignores their obligations under the Free Trade Agreement. Why? powerful lobby groups in the U.S. and a president who holds fair play on the international scene with contempt. Benefits for Brasil? They could be significant given the resources, labour base of this souther hemisphere giant. But, be cautious, do not assume free trade means fair trade when dealing with the US.
Here, Here!
written by Guest, October 19, 2005
Anyone assuming free trade really exists with the US is fooling themselves. The principles of Free trade always relate to US access to local markets..not US markets. The short term gain for local companies allowed any level of free trade with the US goes until the company is bought out by a competiting US company. Somebody please, name me a successful trader with the US ...that hasnt got significant US interest in it or, secondly significant political lobbying to deal with.





Nothing free about free trade
written by Guest, October 19, 2005
The only winner in a business deal with America is America. America makes no deals with other countries in which they will not come out the winner and the other country the loser. The US only looks out for the US. If America cannot come out the winner she won't play the game. It's just that simple.
Just look at Africa and the cotton situa
written by Guest, October 31, 2005
The ridicously high U.S subsidy on cotton hurts their deals with African countries. If you don't want to follow your own trade rules, stay away... and surving on your own. Free trade must first of all be fair. The probelms ith Brazilian corruption is in its Eupean DNA, in absolutely no way does it justify that we should allow for unfair one sided trade, much on the contrary. Good heavens, just look at the softwood situation with Canada. I don't know why we should even bother trading with this sort of prospect.
Bulling , and lies and disrespect is the name of this sad, sad game. And to think it could be so different.
Look how Canada is getting screwed by \"
written by Guest, November 09, 2005
Canada signed a free trade with the U.S.and is getting screwed
Don't sign free trade agreements with the U.S. because they are bulls**t
like the U..S. itself and its fiat currency!
The U.S. only likes free trade if it works to their advantage.
If they have to compete they will slap on a tarrif.
The solution to the U.S. bible thumping anti drug obsessed fanatics
is Botcott anything American.
Buying American supports Facsists and Tyrants.





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