Brazzil

all you neoliberal right wing racist oligarchic gringo loving nut blancos - here is the response from the campesions and socialist and real people friendly masses - "get lost and go and live in nazi germany".

the gringo imperialists and their lackeys in the form of brazil's neo-liberal and blanco oligarchy have done nothing short but exploit the poor, the campesinos, the indigenous, the black, the pardo, and other peoples of color for over 513 years.

all your policy includes is simply cutting taxes for the rich even more and make the rich even more richer and the poor even poorer than they are! and then you bastards support right wing oligarchic and destructive and racist government and counterrevolutionaries in countries against left leaning, people loving, and humane comrades and heroes throughout latin america and the world, where socialists win political victories.

well f**k YOU, you imperialists and the oligarchic lackeys of the imperialist gringos.

we needs a marxist, soclialst and communist revolution in brazil and we need to take over all the fazendas and haciendas of the blanco oligarchy and elite, and then redistribute the land amongst the poor campesinos, as comrade joao stedile is doing now with MST, and comrades hugo chavez and comrade evo morales and comrade danioel ortega has done or will be doing in venezuela, bolivia, and nicaragua respectively,

viva la revolucion! viva fidel castro! viva marxism!

down with right wing racist gringo imperialism! down with the IMF and the racist and exploitary World Bank! down with evil and capitalistic big corporations, which pillage the nature, the people, and the land and the waters and the airs for their own corporate greed and interests!

Friends visted Cuba last week and reckoned it was the poorest, most f**ked up country they had ever visited. Beggers everywhere and people trying to trade bananas for shampoo and toothpaste. No shops, no food...nothing.....so much for your Marxist revolution!

I also have a friend who left Cuba two years ago whose sister is here in England and I can assure you she is no hurry to go back to live with Uncle Castro. In addition I have Russian and former East German friends who lived under communist rule and reckoned it was the most oppressive, diabolical system that ever existed.

As for Black run countries hold your breath and take a look at their success rate.Haiti has been run by blacks for the last 200 years and all they have to show for it is voodoo and anarchy...Zimbabwe has been under black rule for the last 25 years and the population is now starving and yet under white rule it was the "Bread basket" of africa....south Africa "The Rainbow Nation" will shortly follow.

Liberia was created by African Americans around a hundred years ago and several dicatators and civil wars later they have progressed to the Stone Age. Civil war in the Congo has killed an estimated 6 million....all black on black and not a white man in site.

Angola 40 years of civil war black on black violence with the assistance of your beloved Cubans and Russian friends. A country 4 times the size of Britain with vast mineral and oil wealth and still they cannot succeed and that is with only 14 million people.

Nigeria....in 40 years an estimated $1 Trillion of oil has been extracted from the ground and has all been robbed away by the black elite. A friend who worked on the oil installations there reckoned it was the most appalling, inept corrupt place he has ever visited and refused to ever go back.

Whereas take Norway....stuck up in the Artic Circle, dark and snow storms most of the year but they saved and invested their oil money. They have $103 Billion stashed away for the future and an unparalled welfare system. Icelandic People also have the highest standard of living in the world, 100% literacy rate and best quality of life next to Norway.

How do these people achieve this....

Thinking, Education, organization and making leaders accountable......a concept that is alien to Latin America and Africa.Take all the farms away and peoples initiative and you will end up with an even more brain dead, violent, starving population than you already have.

I find that it is little people that talk like this idiot. The guy that wrote the above commentary is showing his IQ. Llisten up a*****e, its not the USA that makes people poor, its not the USA that keeps people poor. They are poor because they have no education and their own country has not provided for them. The USA (Us Suckers of America) is guilty of not being able to provide for the poor of the entire world. If you could find a way of taking advantage of us, you would and your moronic rhetoric would continue because we would give you the liberty to do so. Your give it to the poor bulls**t is more of the same hate preaching, feel sorry for me crap that incites the poor to start the bullets flying. when the bullets start flying you get your cowardly ass undercover and do your drugs until its safe to come out and see the blood of the poor soaking up the ground that a*****es like you say that the poor should have. I won't even give you advice moron, I prefer that you keep on spouting your ass off so that the poor might see that the crap that you talk only keeps the poor, poor. Your s**thouse philosophy has fallen on its ass all over the world and you are too stupid to see it because your gospel of hate marks you as a BABACA of the first order. Keep spreading your hate a*****e, you are consumed by it, just hope you don't run into me.

One will be burnt when the chimp gets here, the other I use as a front door mat so that people wipe the dirt off their shoes prior to entering my home.

By the way, they were both courtesy of the American consulate in Rio. It's great to bash the f**king USA and have US taxpayers provide them rags for all the fun.

Long Live Chavez and f**k George Bush.

.....Bush was re-elected easily and hands on.....against Kerry !!!!!

....Those who are so harsh against the USA....are not democrats...by definition !!!!
Today's reality in your countries is what has been decided by the people...YOU elected...in your own countries !!!!!! They raped and robbed you....and continue to do so.....for over 50 years !!!!!! You are not so harsh against them and the elite minority who control the vast majority of your wealth !!!!!!!

You are the slaves....of the people...YOU elected. Your countries is theirs farms !!!!!!
They keep everything for them....and leave you with poverty, hunger, lack of education, high taxes, high interest rates, lack of infra structures, lack oif healthcare, sanitation, etc etc !!!!!!!

50 years ago, Germany, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal were relativelaty poor countries.

Look what they did...in 30 years !

Ireland was a poor country 15 years ago. Now they have the highest per capita income of all Europe !

Look what many East European countries did in 10 years....like Poland, Roumania, Hungary and other countries.

What is sure.......is that they did what YOU DID NOT DO....in 50 years !!!!!!!!

That explains where they are today and where you are now !!!!!!

Up to you....to find your own road for a better tomorrow but what is certain is what you did in 50 years....was simply wrong....regardless of who was/is in power !!!!!!!!

Numbers speak by themselves !!!!!!!

Brazil proclaims to be the world's garden....but there is hunger and poverty.
Quite contradictory and illogic....in a NORMAL democracy !!!!!!!!

Brazil has the worst world wealth inequality...after Sierra Leone !!!!!
Nothing to be proud of.....but also no reason to criticize....one or more foreign nation !!!!!!!!!

You have what your politicians decided....but they truly dont care about the citizens.....except themselves.
Again....numbers are more relevant than all demagogic rethorics that you are so accustomed to !!!!!

WAKE UP !!!!! STAND UP !!!!!!
It is not because of foreign nations that you have so many poors...but because the decisions made by politicians YOU elected !!!!!

The 1st and 4th comments are so pathetic they don't merit a response!

Ireland was western Europe's poorest country 40 years ago and now through good governance and excellent education for its' population is now among the richest.

Brasil has a per capita GDP among the highest of latin America. It is the responsibility of Brasilians to see that their investment in Education results, as Ireland, in the same results 25 years from now. Brasil's government consumes about 40% of the GDP. Perhaps if the government was more efficient and re-directed it's resourses it could properly fund primary and secondary education.

The capitalist economy has provided the resources. Now the government must use it's resources wisely.

to see in printing, once in a while, the 'middle ground' views.

Hatemongers from both sides, I would suggest you DISARM your spirits... and LEARN. Please be aware the world is getting tired -VERY tired- of you.

A 'woman of weak faith but strong hope' :-)

".....Bush was re-elected easily and hands on.....against Kerry !!!!!"

The GAO's September 2005 report, ELECTIONS Federal Efforts to Improve Security and Reliability of Electronic Voting Systems Are Under Way, but Key Activities Need to Be Completed, confirms the potential for fraud to have occured in the 2005 election.

On the issue of election fraud, also listen to Greg Palast's Podcast, dated 7/21/05, speaking in New Mexico. It's quite entertaining.

Now read this article entitled The Theft of the 2004 Presidential Election* by Dennis Loo, Ph.D. of Cal Poly Pomona: http://www.projectcensored.org...fraud.html Excerpt of the introduction and footnotes below:

In order to believe that George Bush won the November 2, 2004 presidential election, you must also believe all of the following extremely improbable or outright impossible things.(1)

1) A big turnout and a highly energized and motivated electorate favored the GOP instead of the Democrats for the first time in history.(2)

2) Even though first-time voters, lapsed voters (those who didn’t vote in 2000), and undecideds went for John Kerry by big margins, and Bush lost people who voted for him in the cliffhanger 2000 election, Bush still received a 3.5 million vote surplus nationally.(3)

3) The fact that Bush far exceeded the 85% of registered Florida Republicans’ votes that he got in 2000, receiving in 2004 more than 100% of the registered Republican votes in 47 out of 67 Florida counties, 200% of registered Republicans in 15 counties, and over 300% of registered Republicans in 4 counties, merely shows Floridians’ enthusiasm for Bush. He managed to do this despite the fact that his share of the crossover votes by registered Democrats in Florida did not increase over 2000 and he lost ground among registered Independents, dropping 15 points.(4)

4) The fact that Bush got more votes than registered voters, and the fact that by stark contrast participation rates in many Democratic strongholds in Ohio and Florida fell to as low as 8%, do not indicate a rigged election.(5)

5) Bush won re-election despite approval ratings below 50% - the first time in history this has happened. Truman has been cited as having also done this, but Truman’s polling numbers were trailing so much behind his challenger, Thomas Dewey, pollsters stopped surveying two months before the 1948 elections, thus missing the late surge of support for Truman. Unlike Truman, Bush’s support was clearly eroding on the eve of the election.(6)

6) Harris' last-minute polling indicating a Kerry victory was wrong (even though Harris was exactly on the mark in their 2000 election final poll).(7)

7) The “challenger rule” - an incumbent’s final results won’t be better than his final polling - was wrong;(

On election day the early-day voters picked up by early exit polls (showing Kerry with a wide lead) were heavily Democratic instead of the traditional pattern of early voters being mainly Republican.

9) The fact that Bush “won” Ohio by 51-48%, but this was not matched by the court-supervised hand count of the 147,400 absentee and provisional ballots in which Kerry received 54.46% of the vote doesn’t cast any suspicion upon the official tally.(9)

10) Florida computer programmer Clinton Curtis (a life-long registered Republican) must be lying when he said in a sworn affidavit that his employers at Yang Enterprises, Inc. (YEI) and Tom Feeney (general counsel and lobbyist for YEI, GOP state legislator and Jeb Bush’s 1994 running mate for Florida Lt. Governor) asked him in 2000 to create a computer program to undetectably alter vote totals. Curtis, under the initial impression that he was creating this software in order to forestall possible fraud, handed over the program to his employer Mrs. Li Woan Yang, and was told: “You don’t understand, in order to get the contract we have to hide the manipulation in the source code. This program is needed to control the vote in south Florida.” (Boldface in original).(10)

11) Diebold CEO Walden O’Dell’s declaration in a August 14, 2003 letter to GOP fundraisers that he was "committed to helping Ohio to deliver its electoral votes to the president next year" and the fact that Diebold is one of the three major suppliers of the electronic voting machines in Ohio and nationally, didn’t result in any fraud by Diebold.

12) There was no fraud in Cuyahoga County Ohio where they admitted counting the votes in secret before bringing them out in public to count..

13) CNN reported at 9 p.m. EST on election evening that Kerry was leading by 3 points in the national exit polls based on well over 13,000 respondents. Several hours later at 1:36 a.m. CNN reported that the exit polls, now based on a few hundred more - 13,531 respondents - were showing Bush leading by 2 points, a 5-point swing. In other words, a swing of 5 percentage points from a tiny increase in the number of respondents somehow occurred despite it being mathematically impossible.(11)

14) Exit polls in the November 2004 Ukrainian presidential elections, paid for in part by the Bush administration, were right, but exit polls in the U.S., where exit polling was invented, were very wrong.(12)

15) The National Election Pool’s exit polls (13) were so far off that since their inception twenty years ago, they have never been this wrong, more wrong than statistical probability indicates is possible.

16) In every single instance where exit polls were wrong the discrepancy favored Bush, even though statistical probability tells us that any survey errors should show up in both directions. Half a century of polling and centuries of mathematics must be wrong.

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FOOTNOTES:
. . .

(1) Several of the items in this list feature Ohio and Florida because going into the election it was universally understood that the outcome hinged on these swing states.

'TruthIsAll' on the DemocraticUnderground.com offered a list that is similar in format to my highly improbables and utterly impossibles list of the 2004 election results and I have drawn directly from their list for items #6 and 7. (http://www.democraticundergrou...z=view_all &address=203x22581), retrieved June 4, 2005.

(2) High turnout favors Democrats and more liberal-left candidates because the groups who participate the least and most sporadically in voting are from lower socio-economic groups who generally eschew more conservative candidates.

(3) Seventeen percent of election 2004 voters did not vote in 2000. This includes both first-time and lapsed voters. Kerry defeated Bush in this group 54 percent to 45 percent. (Katharine Q. Seelye, "Moral Values Cited as a Defining Issue of the Election," The New York Times, November 4, 2004). This data contradicts the widely held belief that Bush owes his victory to mobilizing conservative evangelicals and getting out the Republican base.

(4) Gore carried the 2000 Florida Independent vote by only 47 to 46 percent whereas Kerry carried them by a 57 percent to 41 percent margin. In 2000 Bush received 13% of the registered Democratic voters votes and in 2004 he got the virtually statistically identical 14% of their votes. Sam Parry, "Bush's 'Incredible' Vote Tallies," Consortiumnews.com, November 9, 2004.

See also Colin Shea's analysis: "In one county, where 88% of voters are registered Democrats, Bush got nearly two-thirds of the vote--three times more than predicted by my model. In 21 counties, more than 50% of Democrats would have to have defected to Bush to account for the county result; in four counties at least 70% would have been required. These results are absurdly unlikely." http://www.freezerbox.com/arch...asp?id=321

(5) "[C]ertified reports from pro-Kerry Cleveland, in Cuyahoga County, [showed] Š precincts with turnouts of as few as 22.31 percent (precinct 6B), 21.43 percent (13O), 20.07 percent (13F), 14.59 percent (13D), and 7.85 percent (6C) of the registered voters. Thousands of people in these precincts lined up for many hours in the rain in order, it would appear, not to vote.

"Meanwhile, in pro-Bush Perry County, the voting records certified by Secretary of State Blackwell included two precincts with reported turnouts of 124.4 and 124.0 percent of the registered voters, while in pro-Bush Miami County, there were precincts whose certified turnouts, if not physically impossible, were only slightly less improbable. These and other instances of implausibly high turnouts in precincts won by Bush, and implausibly low turnouts in precincts won by Kerry, are strongly suggestive of widespread tampering with the vote-tabulation processes." Michael Keefe, "The Strange Death of American Democracy: Endgame in Ohio," http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KEE501A.html , retrieved May 31, 2005.

(6) "Bush's job approval has slipped to 48% among national adults and is thus below the symbolically important 50% point." "Questions and Answers With the Editor in Chief, Frank Newport, Editor in Chief, The Gallup Poll, November 2, 2004, http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/?ci=13948&pg=1, retrieved on May 27, 2005.

As Newport further notes, referring to the final Oct. 29-31, 2004 CNN/USA Today /Gallup poll, "Among all national adults, 49% now choose Kerry as the candidate best able to handle Iraq, while 47% choose Bush. This marks a significant pickup on this measure for Kerry, who was down nine points to Bush last week. In fact, Kerry has lost out to Bush on this measure in every poll conducted since the Democratic convention."

"Bush's margin over Kerry as the candidate best able to handle terrorism is now seven points. 51% of Americans choose Bush and 44% choose Kerry. This again marks a significant change. Last week, Bush had an 18-point margin over Kerry, and the 7-point advantage is the lowest yet for Bush." In other words, momentum was on Kerry's side, with Bush losing 9 points of support on Iraq and 11 points on handling terrorism over the course of one week! This was hardly a sign of someone about to win by 3.5 million votes.

(7) http://www.harrisinteractive.c...sp?PID=515 , dated November 2, 2004, retrieved on June 1, 2005: " Both surveys suggest that Kerry has been making some gains over the course of the past few days (see Harris Polls #83 http://www.harrisinteractive.c...sp?PID=512 , and #78 http://www.harrisinteractive.c...sp?PID=507 ). If this trend is real, then Kerry may actually do better than these numbers suggest. In the past, presidential challengers tend to do better against an incumbent President among the undecided voters during the last three days of the elections, and that appears to be the case here. The reason: undecided voters are more often voters who dislike the President but do not know the challenger well enough to make a decision. When they decide, they frequently split 2:1 to 4:1 for the challenger." For Harris' last minute poll results before the 2000 election, see http://www.harrisinteractive.c...sp?PID=130 , dated November 6, 2000 in which they call the election between Bush and Gore too close to call and predict that the result will depend upon the turnout.

( As Gallup explains, challengers tend to get the votes of those saying they are undecided on the eve of an election: "ased on an analysis of previous presidential and other elections there is a high probability that the challenger (in an incumbent race) will receive a higher percentage of the popular vote than he did in the last pre-election poll, while there is a high probability that the incumbent will maintain his share of the vote without any increase. This has been dubbed the 'challenger rule.' There are various explanations for why this may occur, including the theory that any voter who maintains that he or she is undecided about voting for a well-known incumbent this late in the game is probably leaning toward voting for the challenger." "Questions and Answers With the Editor in Chief, Frank Newport, Editor in Chief, The Gallup Poll, November 2, 2004, http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/?ci=13948&pg=1, retrieved on May 27, 2005. See also footnote 7 herein.

(9) Bob Fitrakis, Steve Rosenfeld and Harvey Wasserman, "Ohio's Official Non-Recount Ends amidst New Evidence of Fraud, Theft and Judicial Contempt Mirrored in New Mexico, The Columbus Free Press
31 December 31, 2004, at http://www.freepress.org/depar.../2004/1057 , retrieved June 6, 2005.

(10) Curtis states in his affidavit that he met in the fall of 2000 with the principals of Yang Enterprises, Inc., - Li Woan Yang., Mike Cohen, and Tom Feeney (chief counsel and lobbyist for YEI). Feeney became Florida's House Speaker a month after meeting with Curtis. Curtis says that he initially thought he was being asked to make such a program in order to prevent voter fraud. Upon creating the program and presenting it to Yang, he discovered that they were interested in committing fraud, not preventing it. Curtis goes on to say: "She stated that she would hand in what I had produced to Feeney and left the room with the software." As the police would say, what we have here is motive and opportunity - and an abundance of evidence of criminal fraud in the Florida vote, together with Feeney's intimate connection to Jeb Bush. Curtis, on the other hand, as a life-long registered Republican - as of these events at least - has no discernible motive to come forward with these allegations, and only shows courage for the risk to himself by doing so. For his full affidavit, see http://fairnessbybeckerman.blo...1597922449 , retrieved June 1, 2005.

(11) Michael Keefer, "Footprints of Electoral Fraud: The November 2 Exit Poll Scam," http://www.globalresearch.ca/a...411A.html, retrieved May 31, 2005.

(12) In the Ukraine, as a result of the exit polls' variance from the official tally, they had a revote. In the U.S., despite the exit polls varying widely from the official tally, we had an inauguration!

(13) The NEP was a consortium of news organizations that contracted Edison Media Research and Mitofsky International to conduct the national and state exit polls. Warren Mitofsky created exit polling.

Conspiracy theorists are so entertaining! What a lot of creative effort went into "WRONG"'s post, and to such little effect. Aside from that, I believe that the topic at hand was Brazil, Lula, and Bush, not "2004 US Presidential Elections".

They persist because they want to find institutional ways to kill off people of color and make the world into their racist gringo haven. Institutional because they know they are drastically and vastly out-numbered so schemes have to be enacted through institutions that promise prosperity for all. Promise one thing while actually plotting something different simultaneously. This is all a game to them. They will NEVER voluntarily stop the behavior. The statement of this beginning about 513 years ago is correct. This didn't start in your or my life time. It's a racist idealogy that is passed from one generation to the next. Little gringo children are now being groomed to take up where their racist ancestors left off. The difference is that (looking at the revolutionaries in the U.S. such as Rosa Parks as one example in the U.S. and other heroes exist in other parts of the Americas) they try to be more slick and deceptive. They promise better as things get worse. They are getting worse for people in this world because they want it to get worse. Don't be fooled by the tactics such as sacrificing the few gringos to spread the many gringos and conversely sacrificing the many people of color to reward the few people of color in comparison for helping the gringos to oppress their own people. This is a WAR OF DENIAL as I put it. They deny there is such a war as they abide by racist ideolgies and promote gringo supremacy. It's simple. In a world that is majority brown (light, medium or dark) why are the gringos calling themselves the leaders of a world they are the minority of. This is a multi-generational war with the gringos making non-gringo countries their enemy before the children of color of those countries can even utter their first word or take their first step. The GRINGOS are destabilizing our planet. PERIOD.

Maybe if the goverment in south america wasn't so corrupt there wouldn't be so many poor people. Blame you leaders, not the USA, Europe or any other country. It goes to show that people like Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro want people of this nation to remain poor. Its hard to understand how people with so much spirt could stand to watch these leaders with thier own Idealisms ruin the lives of so many people. The world is moving forward. These leaders are moving you backwards. Bush is an ass and not many people do not agree with him. But he is not responsible for the situation that is at hand in Latin America. Stop electing people who are corrupt and maybe you will have a better situation in Latin America. Hugo Chavez is the worst kind of leader... His country will never gain anything with Paranoia he is preaching.. Its soo sad. America is not your problem, its your leaders

killing off people of color? What? The biggist racist are in south america...

Please, I have seen latin people in Brazil kill black people because they are homeless, because they are street kids. Because maybe they have to steal a meal to survive. Also, look at some of your countries in south america. They are made up of gringoes and every other race. Everyone in the world would like to blame gringoes but all they need to do is look in the mirror. I have seen many racist people in SA. You are all guilty. Don't blame americans because they are white. The people who made your country killed off millions because they would convert to christianity. What happen to all the Incas and Aztecs? Have you forgotten your past?

killing off people of color? What? The biggist racist are in south america...

Please, I have seen latin people in Brazil kill black people because they are homeless, because they are street kids. Because maybe they have to steal a meal to survive. Also, look at some of your countries in south america. They are made up of gringoes and every other race. Everyone in the world would like to blame gringoes but all they need to do is look in the mirror. I have seen many racist people in SA. You are all guilty. Don't blame americans because they are white. The people who made your country killed off millions because they would convert to christianity. What happen to all the Incas and Aztecs? Have you forgotten your past?

killing off people of color? What? The biggist racist are in south america...

Please, I have seen latin people in Brazil kill black people because they are homeless, because they are street kids. Because maybe they have to steal a meal to survive. Also, look at some of your countries in south america. They are made up of gringoes and every other race. Everyone in the world would like to blame gringoes but all they need to do is look in the mirror. I have seen many racist people in SA. You are all guilty. Don't blame americans because they are white. The people who made your country killed off millions because they would convert to christianity. What happen to all the Incas and Aztecs? Have you forgotten your past?

Admit it you are as racist as any “Gringo” (In other words white) you proclaim is the source of all the world’s woes. So you think that whites are the only source of misery and slavery….I would go back and read up on how Africans dirtied themselves in assisting the “white man” in the slave trade…and how Arabs (the biggest traders of the all) have dirtied their hands in the past and still do and get away with it.

In Africa to this day Africans and Arabs still enslave other Africans especially in countries such as Mauritania. Africans are also responsible for many of their own genocides…..Chaka Zulu and Mzilikazi butchered over a million Africans on the plains of Southern Africa in the 1800’s.

To this day Genocide is happening across Africa at the hands of Africans themselves….Rwanda 1 million dead….Congo estimated 6 million dead…not touching Somalia/ Ethiopia/ Sudan/ Uganda and all the other wars taking place……and there is not a white man in site to be blamed…..and yet some African American institute will find always find a reason.

It is always convenient to blame Gringo’s (or rather Whites) for all the woes of the world which usually is a convenient method of dodging responsibility for ones own mess and failures…..and Brazil and other countries in Latin America have plenty of their own mess which has been self created.

Admittedly whites have done some rotten things in the past but I am NOT going to walk around listening to this bulls**t and as a white man take the blame for it. If you think I am racist my wife is half Brazilian Indian and yes I have Black relatives whom I get on perfectly well with.

" Governments are not supposed to provide and create wealth"

BUT

"Governments must provide the environments for entrepreneurs to create wealth"

AND

"The entrepreneurs who succeed must repay something back to the society.....through taxes !!!!!!!

When South Americans politicians will have understood this, no doubt that millions and millions of local entrepreneurs will emerge, creating wealth, jobs and taxes !!!!!!!

Just look at what happened to the eastern countries, ex satellites of USSR !!!!

THEY did everything with insistence to join the EU bloc !!!

They have good economic growth, more and more jobs, but also better paying jobs than earlier, freedom is growing, social inclusion too, infrastructure is being build at a fast pace, governments are doing a good job !!!!!

No one regrets to have joined. Many other countries are craving to join too, Turkey for example !!!

The FTAA could be quite similar.

Just think about it !

I'm amused by the person who wants to ignore the facts regarding election fraud as "conspiracy theories." They are facts that are even supported by the GAO! You're just someone who hears no evil, sees no evil and speaks no evil. In other words, an ignorant Republican. The fact is that the crimes of the Bushies are revealed more each day. More criminal indictments are comming. Keep on chanting "conspiracy theory" while Fitzgerald keeps digging. You are truely a fool.

The "WRONG" post was directed at the ignorant fool who posted: ".....Bush was re-elected easily and hands on.....against Kerry !!!!!" Why let such a completely stupid statement go unchallenged, even if it's off topic. You're just stung that the post made a complete fool of you! LOL!

If you listen to the Greg Palast Podcast, the article by Dr. Loo, and the GAO report, (we know you didn't) the information thoroughly debunks the notion that election fraud is a "conspiracy theory." The facts are the facts. There were widespread voting irregularities that nearly always favored Bush. Bush was not easily or fairly elected EVER! FACT.

Methinks the gentleman doth protest too much.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...Oct28.html

http://www.thestranger.com/sea...?oid=24932

Methinks people are not protesting enough. We have criminals running the US: Bush/Cheney.

Do all these neo-liberals really believe what they are saying? If so its only because they are ignorant and like to see things in very simple terms that find every other view wrong. Any intelligent observation on the politics of latin america shows that there are two main problems. Institutionalised corruption beginning with the original oligarchies since the conquistadors and U.S political ,military and economic intervention designed to stop that from ever changing. How can anyone seriously state that the poverty and economic hardships of Cuba are because of the political leadership.Are we perhaps forgetting a 50 year economic embargo by the U.S against this small country? Cuba has a higher level of literacy than the U.S! If the "great and mighty" U.S would stop picking on small countries whose crime is wanting to do things their own way ,then we could see clearly what the results could be!

How did the Norweigians manage to save 103 Billion in oil money? By not having anything to do with other Europeans!

Any country touched by the stain of European Colonialism is permanetly messed up!

You have painted white face on with a large spatula, but refuse to ackonwlege that it was the White Europeans who tinkered with the development of the countries you use as examples of ineptitude!

Some very big 20th century facts about Europeans seem to escape your notice namely, numerous wars such as WW1, WW11, Korea, Vietnam, Desert Storm 1 etc.

Let's see WW1 killed 25 MILLION Europeans, and destroyed BILLIONS IN PROPERTY.

WW11 killed 50+ million Europeans and destroyed TRILLIONS IN PROPERTY.

Bosnia, Serbia, murder and Genocide!!

Let's not forget about Adolph Hitler's Third Reich!

Do you remember Belgium King Leopold, there's a rumor that he has a ghost since he orchestrated the murder of 20 million Congolese.

Ah yes, European Americans. Slaghtered 10 million native Americans who welcomed them to their country and saved them from starvation in a critical winter!!!

JUST WHERE IN THE HELL DO YOU THINK THESE EUROPEANS GOT THE MONEY TO RE-BUILD THESE FORMER HELL HOLES???

You guessed it AFRICA, Latin America, and any other spot on the globe under their lying, cheating, murderous, exploitive hands!

Before you go about touting the greatness of the the White European, you should pick up a history book and read the more than 2,000 years of White European domination of the world.

You are now witnessing the EFFECT, Zimbabwe, of the CAUSE, WHITE EUROPEANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Crawl back into your European holes and leave the rest of the world alone and it will solve it's own problems!!!

Movements of people, colonisation and exploitation have been going on since time began….just read the Old Testament and empire building of Egypt, China, India for a starter. It is not just a white man thing it’s a human thing. The first example is a 4000 year old feud between Jews and their neighbours, Europeans never started that problem.

If you think that the Indians of the Americas all lived peace loving lives wandering around the wilderness talking to the Great Spirit think again. Just read up on how the Aztecs subjugated other tribes through armed force and butchered hundreds of thousands of soldiers by sacrificing them to their Gods.

Africa was no haven of peace before the white man either. Read up on the Difiquani (Time of Blood) on how Chaka and Mzilikazi butchered an estimated million people. The missionary Moffat reported on the plains of the Transvaal being littered with bleached human bones. In addition it was the Bantu tribes of East Africa that were largely responsible for the extermination of the Hottentots and Bushmen in Southern Africa.

I noticed you mention the world wars (meaning whites as usual are all to blame) and forgot to mention Imperial Japan who massacred millions of Chinese and other Asian people…..not a white thing either.

BTW Norwegians are white European but just not full members of the EU. The reason they have $103 Billion in surplus is because they have a fully open and accountable Government. All Tax returns and large investments by the rich are in the public arena…..something Brazil should consider.

I will add as well that yes Europeans are guilty of exploiting other cultures......but the more you dig around in History you will find that very few cultures are untarnished.

BTW Zimbabwe has had 25 years to succeed under that Marxist filth Mugabe. He was handed a country with good infrastructure, that fed itself and had the best education system in Africa. 25 years later he has a country in ruins. 700000 homeless and 6 million on the brink of starvation.....had nothing to do with whites

s**t happens and then you Die

You people spend so much time arguing stupid points about politics that you forget what really matters. One day your going to die...and nothing else will matter. Do you really think your politcal point makes a difference.

Who cares about history. People long ago doing what they wanted to get what they wanted. Stop waiting around for somebody to change the world. You are all so lost in it!

If discussing history is stupid and the general attitude is "s**t happens" then why are you on this part of a forum participating in political/ social issues?

It is exactly that blase attitude that allows leaders to go unaccountable for their actions and for a country to stay in the grips of a dictator. I wonder if you would be saying the same thing if you lived under a ruthless dicatator like Mugabe who just burnt down your house and left you starving?

After watching this whole trip on U.S.A TV, the thing that I found most sad is that the media refers to South America as Latin America. Most people in the United States don't even know if Brazilians should be called Brazilians or Portuguese, well if they even know that Spanish is not the language in your country.

What if you lived under three composite ruthless dictators such as the poor people of the USA.

There is the dictatorship of the Executive Branch.

The dictatorship of the legislative branch 535 of um!

The dictatorship of the judicial branch thousands of um all dictating orders that affect the lives of millions.

Here in the USA we have a three headed dictator.

Aby one of these dictator can destroy you! Not to mention their bureaucratic minions!

Fuera Bush -- Get out Bush ... Get out NOW!.

You are telling me that all "gringo's" are racists? That the USA and Europe are responsible for your problems? Without the so called racist `gringos`
life would be way worse in Brasil. It obviously shows the main problem of many Brasilians.
If you would spend as much time for improving the wealth-standard of Brasil, as you did for your dumb comments, Brasil would do much better.
Please stop blaming others, and start doing something usefull for your country !