On an unseasonably hot September Sunday afternoon I was relaxing in the garden with my family and my two dogs when the bucolic sounds of Gávea were rent by terrified screams. They went on and on, rising in pitch and volume, as - heart accelerating - I tried to decipher the source: a child? a dog? a cat?
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My religion requires me to throw Dynamite at the SpookS!! an adaptation of of the chinese using fireworks to scare away evil spirits!! I just need a Liberal Jew Supremisist lawyer to be on my side ! But that would be Impossible because they hate Goyim but love Spooks!!
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... written by Guest,
November 04, 2005
Vividly written. Easy to picture, hard to believe! Food for thought for sure.Are there no animal rights laws in Brazil????
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... written by Guest,
November 04, 2005
Why do the african brazilians feel they have a right to tell you to leave?? That you are a foreigner? As far as I know, we are all foreigners here. If they want to pracitce their voodoo, mumbo jumbo why don't they go back to africa where no one will question "religious" practices?
If there are laws in brasil against this, then they should be prosecuted just like anyone else abusing an animal, whether by cruel neglect or so called religious rites.
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... written by Guest,
November 05, 2005
I see you have a sympathetic ear among racists and neo-nazis. Now nice.
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The name written by Guest,
November 05, 2005
I'm curious. Why the reluctance to say the name of the "famous" musician? Isn't truth a defense to defamation, even in Brazil? Wouldn't fans of this musician like to know about these facts you report? Give the name.
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Reflections written by Guest,
November 05, 2005
I think before we start criticizing those who practice Candomble we should take a good look first at ourselves. What about the deplorable conditions under which animals are raised in the developed world? While I do not like the idea of animals being sacrificed, the cruelty towards animals raised for food in the United States and in European countries far surpasses that of people who practice Afro-Brazilian religions. At least the animals in Brazil live a better life until they are killed.
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... written by Guest,
November 06, 2005
To the one above, are you delusional ??!!! Treat our animals better then who???
How many dogs and cats are on the street, how many more are tied all day long and never get exercised?
Poor animals in Brazil are worse off then the people in the favelas, most of those people are fat! The pets are all skinny. Im a vet and I take great offense to your stupid comment,!!
Do you wear shoes, do you eat chicken, eggs, milk. You are in Brazil where a churrasco is a favorite pass time, I have never been to one that had vegetables only, never mind any vegetables at all!!
There is nothing Brazilian about an African religion.
Where are all the so called animal rights people, wheres green peace ??
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... written by Guest,
November 06, 2005
brazil has no respect for life. why should it suprise you to see chickens slaughted when children are left to fend for themselve on the streets like dogs and cats. where the disabled and mently sick are hidden from view locked in asilums where the police gun down people in the street while the nation turns their heads. you should not impose your ideals on these people you are from another world where people want a better life and justice exsits where police protect the inocent and courption is punished. they are right, they are brazilaians and that is all they will be.
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... written by Guest,
November 07, 2005
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated ... I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man." Mahatma Gandhi
What does this say about Brazil?
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To the Stupid Vet Above written by Guest,
November 07, 2005
Right . . . we treat animals used for food with love and care in this country. Keep telling that to yourself and it might become true. Just taking a tour of some chicken factory farm can turn one into a vegetarian. What about cows that are literally raised in their own urine and feces in places like Texas? We just pump them with antibiotics to make them look pretty, right? I guess you believe the cheese commercial that promotes California's cows as being "happy cows." Brazil has the excuse of being a country in developing, what is ours? Perhaps only pets fall in your definition of animals. You don't seem to care much about the others.
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STOP ANIMAL SACRIFICE! written by Guest,
November 07, 2005
I am Brazilian and I deeply respect candomblé as a faith-based practice. Some of my family members and friends belong to that religion. Now, I CANNOT agree with the sacrifice of animals. I know for a fact that many practicioners of candmblé themselves campaign against animal sacrifice. I agree with one of the readers who said that the name of the artist in question should be revealed. SOMETHING MUST BE DONE for crying out loud! To the auhtor of the article: please know that most Brazilians disapprove of such practices. You want to turn to animals right groups, I bet there are some where you live, for help and couselling on how to go about filing charges against such unsettling business. KEEP US POSTED!
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... written by Guest,
November 07, 2005
What's the difference between killing an animal for food and killing an animal in a religious ceremony?
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... written by Guest,
November 07, 2005
You mean that becuase you don't get things your way, that means you don't have the right to dissent? Dissenters have an opposing view by definition.
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... written by Guest,
November 07, 2005
I'm sure the author of this article is a vegetarian, right?
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... written by Guest,
November 07, 2005
"What's the difference between killing an animal for food and killing an animal in a religious ceremony?"
You don't have to hear the noise in your neighborhood! and food is consumed for nutritional value with out food you die !without religion you have less wars!!
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... written by Guest,
November 07, 2005
Plants and vegetation are the most peaceful living creatures and yet we kill them and cook them ! did you ever see a brocoli or lettuce attack anyone? bulls attack people given a chance so do chickens and geese!! I say stop violence against plants!! Hey maybe I can get some great elitist radical jews to finance my organization jsut so I can cause opposition and chaos and make money in the process!!
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... written by Guest,
November 07, 2005
"When vegatables attack", lol. I want to be the "producer."
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Wow, talk about intolerance... written by Guest,
November 09, 2005
I just could not believe as I read through this article. The part that particularly struck me was:
"...use my different cultural background to point out the absurdity of the scene..."
That just sounds like plain cultural (if not racial) supremacy B.S. With her clear arrogance, she lost whatever reason she had to complain about the situation.
By the way, if I'm ever unfortunate to become her neighbor, I'll probably call PETA on her for treating 2 cats as property, shouldn't that be considered cruelty too?
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... written by Guest,
November 09, 2005
"By the way, if I'm ever unfortunate to become her neighbor, I'll probably call PETA on her for treating 2 cats as property, shouldn't that be considered cruelty too?"
only if she is not a "chosen" (superior) person . for example Goyim! * * it is okay for jews to think they are better than everyone else So it is not anti semitism.
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To the author written by Guest,
November 10, 2005
The reason why you don't understand why they have to kill animals is because you are probably used to mass religions. Candomble is not. It has roots in the paleolotic (so, it's a LOT older than any religion, since it is a kind of African Shamanism). There IS a reason why they do such sacrifices, and if you are REALLY interested in learning, any babalorisha can explain or you can even learn it on the internet searching Candomblé, especially if you speak portuguese. Now, you forgot to mention in your article that these high priests have ancient techniques to kill the animals in a way that they do not feel pain at all. They need the blood, not the pain. And they do what they can to avoid it, wich proves they are people and have hearts too. More important, you forgot to add that THEY USUALLY COOK AND EAT the animals meat after they have used the blood. Most of the judges above eat meat everyday, but they don't care HOW the animal was killed or that it was caged in a tiny cell for its whole life, since it was born, just waiting to be sacrificed. No.. they'd rather pretend that the meat they buy and eat grows from trees and then sit their fat asses by they screen and judge a culture that don't even understand. I'll give you one advice. Messing with a babalorisha is probably THE worst thing one can do on Brazil. They do an offering to Eshu and your life is ruined. But if you really really piss them off, they can sacrifice an animal to him or worse, to Iamy Oshoronga... and then, my friend, I pitty you and your family. Please don't piss them off, for your sake. I understand very well how it must suck to have this happening beside your house, where your family lives, but if I were you I would just move.
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... written by Guest,
November 10, 2005
one genious wrote: brazil has no respect for life then I guess neither do the US. Candomble priests have emigrated to that country and earned in court the reight to sacrifice animals in their rights. Just as in Brazil. It is protected by the Constitution.
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... written by Guest,
November 10, 2005
Another genius? "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated ... I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man." Mahatma Gandhi
What does this say about Brazil?"
Ghandi said that in another century and another country. The animals are cooked and eaten in celebrations, which are by the way open for everyone, including starving people. Only the priests have authorization to kill because theu have been taught how to do it right, without torturing the animal. So: no pain and used to feed. You eat meat everyday and who can say how these animals are treated?
Now, "what does this say about" the kind of stupid people that like post anti-brazilian posts here and to judge one country and one religion that they don't even really know?
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Attention: Text correction. URGENT written by Guest,
November 11, 2005
Where you read: "Afro-Brazilian animistic-fetishist cult"
please read
Afro-Brazilian animistic-fetis**t cult.
The Editors
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WOW ! This is awsome written by Guest,
November 11, 2005
..moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated ...
That's why the MORAL PROGRESS (is there such a thing in Brazil?) can't be judged. All politicians are alive and well and their belly full of YOUR tax money and you idiots don't even realize that.
GET RID OF THEM and you might have MORAL PROGRESS.
Just like the brazilian banner says: Ordem e Progresso.
f**k ORDEM never happens. Backwards in PROGRESSO that you have plenty of it.
You guys are judging the WRONG animals....
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Siri does not reaaly know brazil written by Guest,
November 17, 2005
Siri,
First of all, I am a foreigner (guest) here too. I live here for 10 years. I've always learnt: "When in rome, do as the romans". You need to adapt to the country where you live and not the other way around.
I don't like the fact that they sacrifice animals, but that is their right. It's called freedom of religion.
Now for Candomble and Macumba, these religions are the roots a large part of brazilian culture. Samba music (carnaval) has its roots in Macumba, Axé has its roots in Macumba (Axé actually means something as ´force of life', which is given to the gods by dancing and animal sacrifice). Olundum (The Bahian Band) is a Macumba god. Many sounds in Brazilian music derive from the macumba batucada (including Pagode).
If you don't like what you see, don't look.
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Leave! written by Guest,
November 18, 2005
Why do people from the so-called First World move to a country like Brazil and complain about the "barbarous" ways? If you don't like it pack up and move!
So what if animals are sacrificed in Brazil? I care about animals and their lives but those who complain about the barbarous rites of Afro-Brazilian religions fail to realize that in good old Europe and America people are sacrificed in Satanic rituals. There are a lot of Satanists in America and Europe sacrificing human beings so who is the true barbarian and savage?
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... written by Guest,
November 19, 2005
You don't have to leave unless you want to. Just don't be a sanctimonious putz.
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hi written by Guest,
November 19, 2005
hi my name is brittany im 13 years old in school i am in gt class which is an advanced english class and in this we get countries and we get to research about them and then go to a general assembly a debate issues its much lie the real one and there are some laws that i have looked up and i myself think that shouldnt beable to do that. thank you
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also written by Guest,
November 19, 2005
also i beleive once you live ina country for more than 5 years and are a citizen no one can tell you to leave but in the sitiuon of something like that i beleive that the nieghbor hoo should have a vote if they wanted to kick out the people
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... written by Guest,
November 23, 2005
This is a well established African religion that most be respected. You dont like what you hear/see then move!!
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... written by Guest,
November 25, 2005
Until the day you white folks are willing to give up torturing animals in the name of product research, cramming them into tiny feed pens and pumping them full of all sorts of unnatural chemicals, you have no call to cry about anyone else's brutality to animals.
There are less than a half-million candomblé practicioners in Brazil. Most of them are fairly sincere about what they do and in most of the rituals, the animal is at least EATEN and so doesn´t go to waste.
If you are so up in arms about cruelty to animals, then why don't you go after a group of people who actually have power: factory farmers? These guys torture and kill millions - hell BILLIONS - more animals each year than candomblé practicioners.
But I suppose it's more fun - and probably safer - to project your rage at your poor black neighbors for doing what their ancestors did.
Hope you're a vegetarian, Siri. Otherwise you're a hypocrite to boot.
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... written by Guest,
November 25, 2005
BtW, Siri, its sounds like you have every right in the world to "dissent", just like that guy has every right to tell you to keep your goddamned nose out of his legitimate business.
You're mistaking "right to dissent" for "right to tell other people what to do without having to hear them tell me to piss off".
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... written by Guest,
November 27, 2005
Yes the African religion must be respected but that doesn't mean that followers must be allowed the right to practice all of the religion's customs. What about people in the USA whose religion allow them several wives? We respect their religions, but we don't allow them to marry more than 1 woman at a time. This is how we have to treat religions that involve the sacrifice of animals. I agree that animals in the USA are also mistreated, but those animals are raised for food. Sacrificing animals for no reason is worse than killing them to feed people. I think the whole world will be better off if we all become vegetarians and stop killing animals alltogether, but that's not the issue here. C'mon let's face it, the Brazilian government is way too corrupt to do anything about animal rights. I was born in Brazil, and ever since I can remember the government doesn't do a damn thing for the people. What makes you think Lula's gonna get off his fat ass and go save a few chickens from being tortured by some african immigrants?
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... written by Guest,
November 28, 2005
"Yes the African religion must be respected but that doesn't mean that followers must be allowed the right to practice all of the religion's customs. What about people in the USA whose religion allow them several wives? We respect their religions, but we don't allow them to marry more than 1 woman at a time. This is how we have to treat religions that involve the sacrifice of animals."
1) UTAH allows mormons multiple wifes 2) Why do you americans always think you know it better. Why is your religion that only allows you one wife better than a religion that allows more than one wife.
FREEDOM of religion means you are FREE to think what you want and do what your religion tells you. All religions are equal. One religion can not be more eqaul than others.
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... written by Guest,
December 02, 2005
I love animals. I ate chicken two ways for dinner tonight (sausage and in a sauce). Yummy. Animals are wonderful when cooked just right.
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... written by Guest,
December 02, 2005
Oh, I forgot to add. Before you cook them, you have to kill them.
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... written by Guest,
December 09, 2005
"I agree that animals in the USA are also mistreated, but those animals are raised for food. Sacrificing animals for no reason is worse than killing them to feed people."
In spite of having been born in Brazil, this poster obviously knows very little about Candomblé. Sacrificed chickens in Candomblé's religious rituals are generally EATEN.
Learn a bit about other peoples' religions before calling for their modification, OK, poster?
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... written by Guest,
December 15, 2005
i am sick and tired of hearing this newly acquired sensitivity of westerners, these are the heirs of a long tradition of killing, rape and all sorts of abuses on other fellow human beings and now it's af if they're trying to atone for their horrible deeds by professing their love for animals. Oh! the hypocrisy of it all!!!!!!!
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adaire written by Guest,
July 02, 2006
Women in Utah who are in relationships where they are not the only wife are treated like property. They are often poor and abused and treated like s**t. Also: to watch some one slaughter an animal is upsetting for anyone who has a soul. Also: If it wasn't for us westerners, most of you wouldn't be living in democracies and watching TV and and getting vaccinations and all the other nice things you enjoy. This is largely the result of not being inbred.