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By Almost Doubling Their Salaries Brazilian Congress Demoralized Democracy PDF Print E-mail
Written by Cristovam Buarque   
Wednesday, 20 December 2006 11:26

Brazilian House of Representatives Eduardo Bueno is a well-known Brazilian historian with the rare quality of also being a very good writer. He dazzles at the same time that he educates the reader. Helping us to understand the present and imagine the future, he reveals Brazil's past as he describes our prior reality.

In his latest book, A coroa, a cruz e a espada (The crown, the cross and the sword) he relates the history of our first great Brazilian magistrate, Pero Borges V, the "auditor general." King Manuel III appointed "V," as he was then called, to this post in 1548.

Eduardo Buenos says that in 1543, when he was "corregidor" (a sort of Court of Appeals judge) in a Portuguese province, Pero Borges "was in charge of supervising the construction of an aqueduct" but "was receiving quantities of money that were taken to him at his home."

The investigations proved that the judge had diverted 114,064 reais, 1.05 kilos of gold. Because of this, he was ordered to return that money and was banned for three years from occupying any public office. He was, nevertheless, appointed to accompany our first governor general, Tomé de Sousa, to Brazil and given maximum charge of the country's judicial apparatus as a sort of president of the Supreme Court with all the power.

For this duty he would have received the maximum salary, in the amount of 200 thousand reais per year (the money at that time was also called "reais"). Four hundred reais would have been the equivalent of a "cruzado," which equaled 3.5 grams of gold.

In that epoch, according to the historian Bueno, the minimum wage ("menor soldo") paid in Portugal was 360 reais per month. (By coincidence the Brazilian minimum wage today is the same number and the currency has the same name).

In other words, the kingdom's highest salary paid was 44 times greater than the minimum wage at the time. Today, the maximum monthly salary of the deputies, senators and Supreme Court justices is 24.5 thousand reais (US$ 11.4 thousand), or 66 times greater than the present minimum wage.

In these 500 years, the rate of inequality between the minimum wage and the top salary has increased from 44 times to 66 times as much. Obviously, there are flaws in comparing worlds that are so different. When we make adaptations for the present time, the inequality is even greater.

In the 16th century, despite his 44-times-greater top salary, Corregidor General V had a doctor whose knowledge was the same as that of the doctor of the exile sent to Brazil, little more than that of the medicine man of the indigenous tribes living here.

In spite of the inequality, the conditions of housing, transportation and children's schooling were all fairly similar for both rich and poor. There were no airplanes or cars, Intensive Care Units or medical check-ups, bathrooms or air conditioning.

Today, the beneficiaries of the maximum salary have much greater buying power than that of the poor minimum-wage recipients in terms of the comfort of their housing, their children's schools, their means of transportation and, above all, their quality of medical care.

In the 16th century, there was not much difference in the life expectancy of the poor and the rich. Today the rich live, on the average, many years longer than the poor, thanks to the health services that they are able to buy.

In the 16th century, moreover, security was better. Despite the wars with the indigenous tribes, life must have been safer. It would have been difficult for the Corregidor General to be assaulted on the road between the port and the city, as happens today to those who receive the maximum salary. It is perhaps because of the growing inequality that we have growing insecurity and an uncertain future.

A future made uncertain by the conduct of those at the top of the social pyramid who will have to confront those at the bottom. And it is uncertain because it puts the democracy itself in check. Upon giving themselves raises in pay so many times above the minimum wage when their salaries were already so many times greater, the Congress and the Justice system have lost credibility, demoralizing the democracy.

This is even worse when the Executive Branch shows disdain for the institutions. On the same day that the Congress raised its own salary by 92%, President Lula twice made public his displeasure with the intermediation between the Executive Branch and the people.

The direct link of the charismatic leader with the people remains justified, in public opinion, by the demoralization of the legislative and judicial branches. Even graver than the impact upon finances is the impact upon confidence.

Cristovam Buarque has a Ph.D. in economics. He is a PDT senator for the Federal District and was Governor of the Federal District (1995-98) and Minister of Education (2003-04). He was a presidential candidate this year. You can visit his homepage - www.cristovam.com.br - and write to him at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it .

Translated from the Portuguese by Linda Jerome - This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it .

Comments (316)Add Comment
So what are you going to do about it?
written by John Miller, December 20, 2006
So what are you going to do about it?
I am pissed off just like you about this self annoyted pay rise. But I cant do anything except whings and complain.
You need my help happy to help out. But you are able to do something. And we need more people like you. Stop this rape of brasil por favor. These guys are just thieves and bandidos.
I AM WITH YOU TWO
written by forrest allen brown, December 21, 2006
there is a big bunch of people in PB & PE that would jump on the band wagon if someone would pull the trigger on them .

why dont we take out adds in the news papers calling for a strike on the goverment just would have to place a few adds and then the Golbal and jurnal national would pick up on the report and we would see if ti ran and see if the congerss would act before the planed walk

if 8 million people can walk in the U.S.A in several citys than why not brasil

show the rest of the world the country is not just about foot ball

and get the indains in on the deal they are big loosers when it comes to the goverment screwing the people of brasil

Maybe they should be paid more
written by jtara, December 21, 2006
I think they should be paid more.

Yes, it's am embarassment that the income disparity has increased, and that Brazil has one of the greatest income disparities between rich and poor among the nations of the world.

But the problem is not the wages paid to legislators and supreme court justices - it's the wages paid to the average person.

You can't have a world-class government on third-world wages. My God, somebody earning $11.4K in the U.S. or Europe would be living on the streets! I know Brazil has lower living expenses, but even so, $11.4 is not a decent middle-class income even in Brazil. Don't you think those that run the country deserve to join the middle-class? They should be able to concern themselves with the needs of the country, not their own needs. People do their best when they do not have to be concerned with the basic needs of life.

These wages only invite corruption. Does anyone honestly thing that any of these people get the greatest part of their income from their government salary?

Increase these wages 10-fold. Then, perhaps, you will attract the kind of talent that can bring the masses out of poverty. As it is, anybody who is in government service who is talented is in it for what the influence will get them. Certainly not the money from their salary. Why would anybody live in $11.4K when they could do better in business or simply by taking their education and moving to another country that will reward them for it?
You´re out of yer mind
written by Grump, December 21, 2006

You can't have a world-class government on third-world wages.


When BRazil HAS a world class government, then we can talk.

Sorry, but Brazil has been administrated by a bunch of baffoons for far too long. Every problem in the country is getting WORSE, and you feel that these fools deserve a world class salary for robbing brazil and keeing the country a third class s**thole?

You deserve the government you get.

but even so, $11.4 is not a decent middle-class income even in Brazil.


Now I know you are nuts.
jtara...
written by bo, December 21, 2006
with all due respect, but could you have made yourself sound anymore ignorant? Firstly, the salaries they receive can basically be completely bankrolled, these guys don't have any expenses, including expense money they're allowed to spend they have access to close to one million reais per year per congressmen!! Now, you tell me, in these positions that they have available to hire people, do you think they hire people they don't know? Even family members?? Nepotism is widely practiced in brazil, and you can bet, that these congressmen are putting brothers, sons, daughters, aunts, and uncles in positions and paying them salaries to benefit their own family.

For someone to state making 11K per month in the U.S. is barely surviving, lol, truly idiotic. My years in corporate america I made between 6K and 10K per month, and I lived a very comfortable middle, to upper middle class lifestyle.

To state paying them more would reduce their corruption is also a very ignorant statement, and shows that you're not familiar with the ideology by politicians here in brazil. They make, steal, earn, as much as they can while they can. If they receive a higher salary, they will continue to make LOTS of money through corruption as well, that will continue, and I know this for a fact.

Why would anybody live in $11.4K when they could do better in business or simply by taking their education and moving to another country that will reward them for it?


LOL...you talk like 11.4 K a month is peanuts, compare that with 850 reais per month, which is what the average salary is in brazil according to Brazil's PIB divided by population. People that make GOOD salaries in Brazil earn around 5-6K a month, naturally there are those that make more, but 5-6K a month is a very good salary in brazil. I know many people that make this type of salary and they have very comfortable lives.

This type of corruption can only be equalled to the corrupt countries in Africa, that have people starving to death while a handful of leaders that run the country rob it blind. Brazil does have nearly 25% of its population that make less than 2 DOLLARS a day!! Now you're going to pay a salary to over 500 congressmen the equivalent of $500 DOLLARS per day??? Not mentioning nothing about all the expense money they have access to!!

If this pay hike gets approved, congressmen in brazil will become the HIGHEST paid politicians on planet earth!!! That is f**king laughable!!
Most Americans don't make $11,400 per month
written by AP, December 21, 2006
$ 11,400 per month in the U.S. will get you pretty far. Whoever thinks otherwise should really familiarize themselves with real world economic situations. In the U.S., a salary of this rate would safely ensconce one in the upper middle-class.
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written by Grump, December 21, 2006
http://oglobo.globo.com/educac...146183.asp

This article will explain a lot about posters like A BRazilian, Jtara, et.al In a nutshell a new study finds that the quality of education in Brazil is still one of the worst in the world. After reading through some of "a Brazilian's" posts, it all makes sense now.
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written by e harmony, December 21, 2006
$11,000 a month in salary or wages in the U.S. is not just good it is beyond awesome. A good working man's wage - at least in the Midwest minus Chicago and perhaps Minneapolis - is roughly $1,000 a week (so about $4,000 a month before or after taxes). Actually $500 to $700 a week in earned wages is considered phenomenal pay in that same region for semi-skilled workers (or even skilled depending on the market demand for certain kind of labor). Most entry level work in that same region (again taking Chicago and Minneapolis out the picture perhaps) is roughly $200 after taxes in weekly wages - that's about $6.00 an hour.

Professional work is another matter and that generally starts off somewhere around $36,000 annually and upward with wet feet. Of course professions such as engineers will start off in higher salary bracket.
to the post :These wages only invite corruption !!!!!
written by ch.c., December 21, 2006
sorry...but the corruption practices are not included in these wages !

And as one member said, when all the perks are included, the amount equals to even more than 1 million Reais.

One article, I think in this site, arrived at Reais 116'000.- per month.....OR close to Reais 1,4 million annually ...when all perks are included !!!!
And again....this doesnt include yet....the money they get from their corruption daily practices.

Brazil is definitely governed by several criminal gangs and cartels and the PCC with Marcola as their leader is by far not the worst !
to : what are you going to do about it ?
written by ch.c., December 21, 2006
Simple....Brazil population will re-elect the same crooks.
They just did it again....8 weeks ago !

Guess who is smiling ! Those you re-elected. They got your confidence vote that afterall whatever they earn legally.....has your blessing, including what they earn in their corruption practices.

Dont you have what you deserve since you voted for them ?
WOW!
written by JCR, December 21, 2006
"My God, somebody earning $11.4K in the U.S. or Europe would be living on the streets!"

Please disregard this person's future posts as he/she clearly demonstrates a lack of mental capacity. Do you honestly believe that Americans making over 11K a month are living on the streets? This person's post just goes to show that a little too much American television can be a dangerous thing. Even if we are talking about Reais, that is still a nice, tidy income in the US. I could live on half that soooo well.
Bo is always spot on....
written by Gingo Dingo, December 22, 2006
In my experience in brazil, generally speaking, brazilians are a relaxed, laid back bunch, but, for whatever reason, I'm still trying to figure out why, when you put a brazilian in a car, or in these situations as at the airports, many become very agressive. I can fully understand their reasons for being upset about these delays, but to break computers? Break the counter? Physically attack an employee of a company? On one hand it's good that people aren't accepting this situation, I only wish they would be as indignant about their own vereadors, dep**adas, and senadors, stealing millions.


Bo, your posts are informative, and spot on. It is obvious you have spent a considerable amount of time in this country. I would only add that, I’m not surprised about the breaking point. It is not just driving, and dealing with delays at airports. Brazilians do have a fairly good nature about them, however when pushed they explode and become the most violent and aggressive being one could imagine. I’ve been caught off guard on a number of occasions while in friendly debate with friends, when the subject gets political, just how far they fly from reality, and how fast they are to fall back on the use of violence, when they’ve crossed over from docile being to enraged psychopath. This is with an informed group of people; just imagine the knuckle draggers from the hills?
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written by HappyTankskilling, December 22, 2006
Global action against Guantánamo
إقرأ باللغة العربية, lire en français, leer en español



16 December 2006 marks the start of a series of protests across the world with renewed calls on the US government to close Guantánamo.

In January 2002, the US authorities transferred the first "war on terror" detainees – hooded and shackled – to the US Naval Base in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.

Despite major international outcry and expert condemnation, hundreds of people of more than 30 nationalities continue to be held there: without charge, and with little hope of obtaining a fair trial. Though US authorities have repeatedly called the detainees "terrorists" and "killers", many have been released without charge.

US official investigators and detainees have reported torture and other ill-treatment, and the conditions of detention remain inhumane.

Justice for Guantánamo detainees! The detention camp approaches its 5th anniversary

In January 2002, the US authorities transferred the first "war on terror" detainees – hooded and shackled – to the US Naval Base in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba. Despite widespread international condemnation, hundreds of people of more than 30 nationalities remain there.

The US administration chose Guantánamo as the location for this detention facility in an attempt to keep the detainees out of the reach of the US courts.

The totality of the detention regime in Guantánamo – harsh, indefinite, isolating and punitive – amounts to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment in violation of international law.

The detainees and their families face severe psychological distress. In desperation, numerous detainees have embarked on hunger strikes, being kept alive through painful force feeding procedures. A number have attempted suicide. In June 2006, three detainees were found dead in their cells; they had apparently hanged themselves.

As more evidence surfaces that the abuse of Guantánamo detainees has been widespread, condemnation at home and abroad increases. Amnesty International was one of the first voices to call for the camp to be closed, and many other organizations, institutions and individuals have since expressed their outrage at the detention centre.

On 29 June 2006, the US Supreme Court ruled that the military commissions established by President Bush to try "war on terror" detainees were unlawful.

Instead of using the ruling as a springboard for change, the US government responded with new legislation – the Military Commissions Act 2006 - further restricting judicial review of detentions and providing for the trial by military commission of foreign nationals held by the US anywhere in the world as "enemy combatants".

This act undermines basic principles of justice and opens the door to more human rights violations and impunity in the name of counter-terror.

Guantánamo is a symbol of this injustice. The US government must close it.

Detainees must either be released will full protections or charged and tried in full and fair proceedings.

Dear Embassador Happy Tankskilling
written by HappyTankskilling, December 22, 2006

Dear Donna Hrinak - US Ambassador Federative Republic of Brazil

It is nearly five years since the first detainees were transferred to the detention camp at the US Naval Base in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba. More than 400 detainees remain held there indefinitely, causing serious distress to them and their families, and serious damage to the rep**ation of your country.

I believe that lasting security and real justice for the victims of terrorism cannot be achieved without respect for the human rights of all detainees and fair trials for anyone suspected of involvement in terrorism. I do not believe that the Military Commissions Act, signed into law by President Bush on 17 October 2006 can bring this about. Instead it threatens to entrench into legislation policies that have been widely condemned.

Five years on, the Guantánamo detention camp has become an icon of injustice committed in the “war on terror”, undermining security and respect for the rule of law. It must be closed down.

The closure of this detention facility must not lead to the transfer of human rights violations elsewhere. All those in US custody, wherever they are held, must have their human rights fully respected. Secret and indefinite detention must end. Those who are not to be charged with criminal offences and brought to a full and fair trial should be released. The case of each detainee to be released must be individually assessed to ensure that he is not transferred to a country where he will face further human rights violations.

I recall President Bush’s repeated assertions that the USA remains committed to the “non-negotiable demands of human dignity”, including the rule of law. I urge you to relay my concern to the US administration and to do all in your influence to make respect for human rights and the rule of law a reality for all those in US custody and their families.

Thank you!
Dear Lula
written by grumpy, December 22, 2006
Dear Lula and Costinha

It’s been decades since your prisons have been over crowded, over-run by drug lords, corrupted by guards and officials and generally left in complete disarray. Brazilian prisons have been basically called a re-invention of hell. Violence is rampant, and every month there is a rebellion where at the very least 2 or three are killed. Of course the greatest massacre was Carandiru where over 110 people were summarily executed by police and yet, to this date, no one has been charged.

Given all this we offer you the solution which is GUANTANAMO. Here, prisoners are treated better than by their nations from which they came. Everything is clean, there is no violence, and most requests are considered and delivered. Granted, there are some problems with Guantánamo, but I ask you to ask your prisoners to choose between the two. Life in a Brazilian prison? Or a few years in Guantánamo. Let’s not forget that the prisoners of Guantánamo receive three square meals a day (which is more than we can say about 30% of your country’s population), and are NOT forced to face violent thugs and corrupt officials. We offer you Guantánamo as an example of a decent prison system, because we know that in BRazil you just don’t have a clue...
Gringo Dingo interesting comment..
written by Carlota Joaquina, December 22, 2006
Bo, your posts are informative, and spot on. It is obvious you have spent a considerable amount of time in this country. I would only add that, I’m not surprised about the breaking point. It is not just driving, and dealing with delays at airports. Brazilians do have a fairly good nature about them, however when pushed they explode and become the most violent and aggressive being one could imagine. I’ve been caught off guard on a number of occasions while in friendly debate with friends, when the subject gets political, just how far they fly from reality, and how fast they are to fall back on the use of violence, when they’ve crossed over from docile being to enraged psychopath. This is with an informed group of people; just imagine the knuckle draggers from the hills?


I also have doubts. I wonder why so many people in America become maniacs. Many years ago, it was considered normal in the yank setting, people go crazy in the middle of the street. A local health authority would be called and the lunatic would be managed, put on a straightjacket and headed to a psychiatric shelter. Common too was being attacked in the subway, like a lady was pushed under a subway train while the train was on its way at the 5th avenue station. Of course, when they would not kill personalities like John Lennon and R. Kennedy “apparently” for no good reason. These times are in the past now. Nowadays, instead of going mad like a nonsense lunatic, they are more defensive and what they do is carry a gun and start shooting everyone they possibly can kill. They carry bombs, like in Oklahoma city, they kill colleagues in schools, they kill at market parking spots. I would like to understand this feature of mental illness so revealing in the American society. Also, wonder why so many cases of sexual molesting kids, minor family members etc. take place in America.
Proposta
written by A brazilian, December 22, 2006
Brasileiros, falemos somente o português e deixemos esses gringos se virarem com tradutores pela rede mundial, se assim quiserem. Assim podemos conversar livremente e comentar as asnices aqui escritas por eles. Esse site não pode ser sério ao permitir coisas como bem exemplificados nesses comentários. Isso não é apenas ofensivo de uma forma inocente, mas sim proposital. O intuito desse site é denegrir a imagem do Brasil e de seu povo, portanto gastar tempo e saliva argumentando é inútil.

Escrevamos somente o português para que outros brasileiros não se iludam ao visitar o site, e deixemo-los na escuridão de sua própria ignorância.
from a European.....
written by ch.c., December 22, 2006
Dear Lula, king of the crooks and emperor of the corrupted Brazilians politicians,
How can a real democracy absolve legally corrupted politicians, recognized as corrupt by Brazilians investigators, by a secret vote from other lawmakers just as corrupted as those they absolved.
So disgusting that most investigators .......resigned !!!!

Mr President, you have given clear instructions to find out what happened in the files bought by your cronies against Serra and
Alckmin.
Since you have given these instructions, not a word of where investigations stand ! Files and charges have been closed ?

Mr Lula, you intervened personally, together with all your diplomats, concerning the tragedy of Jean Charles Menezes during the London bombings. Mr Blair and his government personally have sent you their apologizes, but still they were not enough !
What about the hundreds of killings made by your own police, annually, to innocents Brazilians ? What about the killings of
your deaths squads, happening daily ? During the SP chaos, the governnor, Lembe, acknowledged publicly that innocents were killed. Some Brazilians investigators even found out that some deaths are proven to have been made by a shoot-to-kill strategy !!!! More innocents have been killed after the chaos, as revenge from your police forces.

Mr Lula, stupid question, is 1 Brazilian death if abroad more important than the thousands innocents killed yearly in Brazil ?????
Your own stats demonstrate that 50 % of youths deaths in Brazil, aged 15-24, is due to violent deaths !!!!!

Be proud Mr Lula of the total impunity given to your police forces for their killings of innocent citizens.
Be proud Mr Lula of your policies that you are so proud of, resulting in the 50 % youths deaths through violent crimes !!!!!!

Be proud Mr Lula of the Brazilian Tropical Mess that you are partially but not totally responsible.

Be proud Mr Lula on your various world comparative rankings. You are mostly ranked at the bottom on thoise rankings !

And with such a terribly bad performances and rankings, to whom do you want to give lessons in the world ?
Is your intention to include these failures in your futures exports ????????

Be proud to export US$ 50 billions annually in agriculture alone, when tens of millions of your citizens are under nourrished and millions live in hunger !
Be proud of your Bolsa Familia program, using less than 2 % of your budget for the 45 millions poorest citizens.
Be proud that in Brazil these 45 millions citizens can, as you proclaimed, have decent 3 meals a day, due to your generosity.

Mr Lula, you recognized yourself that you did not have a good education. And on that point you are dead right because your Bolsa Familia program in fact give 0,50 Reais per day to these 45 millions needy.

Sorry Mr Lula, but with 0,50 Reais per day, no one in Brazil can effectively have 3 decent meals per day......contrary to what you said !!!!!

There are some rumors, that in 2007, you will reduce the number of citizens that will ne entitled to this program.
Quite normal.......after you won their votes !!!!!

In fact Mr Lula, the PCC chief, Marcola, is an angel when compared to you and your politicians. The PCC is the only Brazilian gang that deserves a high respect !
To : Bo !!!!!
written by ch.c., December 22, 2006
You just demonstrated how idiot you are and your total lack of education and klnowledge by saying that in Europe or the USA those earning 11,4 K US$ would be living on the street !!!!!!!

But afterall, to your defense, you represent the majority average Brazilian.

Doubtful that you travelled abroad farther than your virtual trips using the Internet...from your Internet Shop in your small city !
ch.c...
written by bo, December 22, 2006
it wasn't me that made those idiotic remarks, I refuted them and stated how ignorant they were.
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written by bo, December 22, 2006
Also, wonder why so many cases of sexual molesting kids, minor family members etc. take place in America.



Guess you missed the latest story about the brazilian that raped and murdered 40 children??? Please don't try and compare crime and murder that takes place in the U.S. to brazil, because if you're a brazilian, or trying to "defend" their position, you will be embarrassed by facts and figures.
Active U.S. Hate Groups in 2005
written by a guest, December 22, 2006

The Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Project counted 803 active hate groups in the United States in 2005. Only organizations and their chapters known to be active during 2005 are included.
Click a state on the map below to find out more about hate groups in the area.

http://www.splcenter.org/intel...-maps-hate

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written by Carlota Joaquina, December 22, 2006
I was talking about mental illness not crime. See this text above

Nearly 8 Years Later, Guilty Plea in Subway Killing

A schizophrenic man pleaded guilty to manslaughter yesterday, admitting for the first time that he knew what he was doing when he pushed a promising young writer to her death in front of a subway train almost eight years ago.
The man, Andrew Goldstein, acknowledged that he knew it was wrong to shove the woman, Kendra Webdale, 32, into the path of an N train at the 23rd Street station in January 1999.
The death of Ms. Webdale, a journalist and photographer who had moved to the city from Buffalo, unnerved New Yorkers who had come to think of their city as the safest it had been in years. The public outcry over her death led to a state law, known as Kendra’s Law, that gives families the right to demand court-ordered outpatient psychiatric treatment for their relatives.
Until his plea yesterday in State Supreme Court in Manhattan, Mr. Goldstein had claimed that he had pushed Ms. Webdale during a psychotic episode and therefore was not responsible for his actions.
“She was leaning against a pole with her back to me near the edge of the platform by the tracks,” Mr. Goldstein said in a written statement submitted yesterday to Justice Carol Berkman. “I looked to see if the train was coming down the tracks. I saw that the subway train was coming into the station. When the train was almost in front of us, I placed my hands on the back of her shoulders and pushed her. My actions caused her to fall onto the tracks.”
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written by Carlota Joaquina, December 22, 2006
also sexual molestation. There are both in this case

Fifth-Grade Teacher is Charged With Sexually Molesting 2 Brothers. 10 and 8
DOBBS FERRY, N.Y.- A popular fifth-grade teacher was arrested this weekend on charges of sexually molesting two brothers, one of whom was his student, after a New Year’s ve Party at the boys’ home, law enforcement officials said today.
Word of Mr. Nowicki’s arrest stunned this tightly knit riverfront community of 10,000, Mr. Nowicki had quickly won friends and admirers for his easygoing manner and dedication to his students, some of whom described him as “the best teacher ever”.
Once in Dobbs Ferry, Mr. Nowicki quickly blended into the flow of life, many students said. And, according to Ms. Pirro, the Westchester County District Attorney, he was so well liked by the 10-year-old student in the case that he was invite to the family’s house for a New Year’s Eve celebration. He had never bee to the house before.
About two dozen adults attended the party, said Detective Joe Ellman of the Dobbs Fery Police Department. MS Pirro said Mr. Nowicki became so inebriated that the parents allowed him to stay for the night on a sofa. He was the only one who stayed over.
A few hours later, the parents were awakened by the 10-year-old, who said that he had been sexually abused by Mr. Nowicki and that the teacher was then in the bedroom, sexually abusing his 8-year-old brother, MS. Pirro said. The parents found Mr. Nowicki with the boy,s he said.
Fifth-grade teacher in Dobbs Ferry, NY, Steven Nowicki, pleads not guilty to charges that he sexually abused two boys after their parents invited him to stay the night after New Year's Eve party; one of boys was student of Nowicki's.

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written by Carlota Joaquina, December 22, 2006
Guess you missed the latest story about the brazilian that raped and murdered 40 children???


Have a link on the story??

I just read the news at yahoo that a brazilian girl was murdered in NJ. Another one. I came to know that at the end South Park is a good learning program for those who have little contact with American life.
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written by Ric, December 23, 2006
I hate to bring this up again, but why do anti-Americans feel the compulsion to always talk about the States? This article mentions Brazil and Portugal; not North America. It´s not enough that half the programs on Brazilian TV show scenes from the same L.A. freeways on which I learned to drive, while TV shows in the states rarely if ever mention Brazil. Now we get a chance to discuss Brazil and Portugal, and these gringophobes go back to batendo the same tecla. Stop, you´re driving me sane! By the way, the first freeway in the world was the one between City Center and Pasadena....Brazzil knows where that is.....
Carolota...
written by bo, December 23, 2006
Brazil murder rate similar to war zone, data shows

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BRASILIA, Brazil (Reuters) - More than 150 Brazilians were murdered each day last year on average, putting Brazil on a par with some war zones in terms of its homicide rate, the Justice Ministry said on Monday.

Some 55,000 Brazilians died of homicide in 2005 -- a few thousand more civilians than in THREE YEARS of war in Iraq, according to leading estimates.

Brazil, a continent-sized nation of 185 million people starkly divided into rich and poor, has had notoriously high crime rates for years. Millions of poor live in urban slums and unpoliced rural areas where guns are easy to come by.

Though the murder rate is high, Marcelo Durante, coordinator of the Justice Ministry's report, said homicides have fallen slowly in recent years thanks in part to an initiative to collect guns from the streets.

Citizens have voluntarily turned in thousands of weapons in places like Rio de Janeiro, the famous beachside city whose urban slums have some of the highest crime rates in Brazil.

A referendum in 2005 to ban gun sales failed, in part because some voters had lost faith in police.

"It was the states that collected the most guns that saw crime rates fall most," said Durante, "but we have to remember it's not just about guns."

Other kinds of violent crime in Brazil are far more common than statistics show, Durante said, adding that urban surveys suggest only a QUARTER of all robberies and 15 PERCENT of all rapes are reported nationwide.

"At least with homicide, we can be a little more confident most of the crimes are getting reported," he said.

Murders also declined in Brazil's largest city of Sao Paulo in recent years, Durante said. Earlier this year, however, a gang known as First Command of the Capital launched a series of attacks on police, banks and buses in which about 200 police, gangsters and innocent civilians were killed.
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written by bo, December 23, 2006
Don´t forget this....
written by grumpy, December 23, 2006
Brasília, DF - Na última década as mortes por armas de fogo registradas no Brasil superaram o número de vítimas de 23 conflitos armados no mundo, perdendo apenas para as Guerras Civis de Angola e da Guatemala. Nesse período morreram no Brasil 325.551 pessoas, em média 32.555 mortes por ano. Os dados fazem parte do estudo “Mortes Matadas por armas de fogo no Brasil 1979 – 2003”, que foi lançado hoje, segunda-feira (27/06), às 11h, pelo Representante da UNESCO no Brasil, Jorge Werthein, e pelo Presidente do Senado Federal, Renan Calheiros, no Senado, em Brasília (DF).


“O lançamento tem como objetivo sensibilizar a sociedade brasileira para a importância do desarmamento da população e da aprovação do referendo sobre o fim da livre comercialização de armas e munições no País”, afirma Jorge Werthein.


O estudo, coordenado pelo sociólogo Julio Jacobo Waiselfisz, pesquisador da UNESCO e Chefe do escritório da Organização em Pernambuco, revela que, entre 1979 e 2003, as armas de fogo mataram 550 mil pessoas no País, ou seja, 35 mil vítimas por ano ou 100 pessoas por dia. A pesquisa confirma que os jovens, entre 15 e 24 anos, são as principais vítimas das mortes por armas de fogo: do total de vítimas, 206 mil eram jovens nessa faixa etária. Só no ano de 2003, 41,6% dos casos registrados foram de jovens.


A pesquisa foi feita com base em dados do Sistema de Informações de Mortalidade, no caso Brasil, o DATASUS do Ministério da Saúde, e, no caso internacional, da Organização Mundial de Saúde (OMS), detalhando a causa de mortes por uso de armas de fogo em acidentes, homicídios, suicídios e indeterminada. Os dados foram analisados ano a ano conforme o número de mortes por armas de fogo no Brasil. O autor compara a morte por armas de fogo com outras causas de mortalidade como acidente de trânsito, enfermidades etc. Além disso, as mortes por armas de fogo no País foram comparadas com o número de vítimas de 26 conflitos bélicos ocorridos em 25 países do mundo, em períodos distintos. Chama a atenção o fato de o Brasil, mesmo sem ter conflitos religiosos, de fronteiras ou luta política armada, registrar mais vítimas das armas de fogo do que nações atingidas por conflitos bélicos declarados.


Com o lançamento do livro, a UNESCO e o Senado Federal pretendem fortalecer o movimento já iniciado com a Campanha do Desarmamento, de forma a contribuir com a promoção de uma cultura de paz no Brasil. Os números mostram que é importante reduzir o número de armas em circulação no País e também a venda de armamentos para se reduzir a violência.


Alguns dos principais resultados do livro:

• Entre 1979 e 2003, acima de 550 mil pessoas morreram no Brasil vítimas de disparos de algum tipo de arma de fogo, num ritmo crescente e constante ao longo do tempo. Nesses 24 anos, as vítimas de armas de fogo cresceram 461,8%, enquanto a população do país cresceu apenas 51,8%. O crescimento foi puxado pelos homicídios com armas de fogo, que registraram um crescimento de 542,7% no referido período. Os suicídios com armas de fogo subiram 75% e as mortes por acidentes com armas caíram 16,1%.

• Das 550 mil mortes, 205.722, ou seja, 44,1%, foram jovens na faixa de 15 a 24 anos. Considerando que os jovens representam 20% da população total, conclui-se que, proporcionalmente, morrem mais de o dobro de jovens vítimas de armas de fogo do que nas outras faixas etárias.

• Entre os jovens, o crescimento do uso letal de armas de fogo foi ainda mais violento do que na população total, chegando a 640,3%. Os homicídios também são os maiores responsáveis por este crescimento, ao aumentarem 742,9% no período, enquanto o número de suicídios cresceu 61% e os acidentes envolvendo armas de fogo caíram 16,7%.

• Também aumentou a participação da população jovem entre as vítimas das armas de fogo. Em 1979, houve 2.208 mortes juvenis por armas de fogo, representando 31,6% do total de vítimas pr armas de fogo. Em 2003, os 16.345 jovens que morreram por balas de armas de fogo representaram 41,6% do total de vítimas.
how about this..
written by grumpy, December 23, 2006
Brasil registra 11% dos homicídios no mundo

O representante do Programa das Nações Unidas para o Desenvolvimento (Pnud), Carlos Lopes disse que, apesar de o Brasil representar apenas 2,8% da população mundial, o país registra 11% dos homicídios em todo o planeta. "E os números continuam a aumentar" declarou durante a abertura do Seminário Internacional de Armas, no Hotel Intercontinental, em São Conrado, na zona sul do Rio.

O representante da ONU informou que, no Brasil, 40 mil pessoas são mortas anualmente com o uso de armas de fogo. "Este número é superior ao das vítimas da guerra do Iraque. Portanto, num país que está em paz é difícil conceber que haja tantas mortes resultantes da utilização indevida das armas", afirmou.

Ainda segundo Carlos Lopes, os números da ONU revelam que o setor privado gasta mais de R$ 70 bilhões por ano com a chamada indústria do medo, o que faz com que muitos investimentos deixem de ser feitos na área social para sem aplicados na segurança.
but this is always their tactic
written by bo, December 23, 2006
they can't show overall figures, because they're embarassing. Brazil is once again a world leader, naturally in things that are NOT desirable!! So they pick and choose little stories, situations, and try and paint that as a general theme. Ignorance and the "não foi eu" mentality dominate!!

Congratulations Carolota!!! smilies/grin.gif
and let's not foget the police, "to serve and protect"??
written by bo, December 23, 2006
Brazil death squads denounced

Police at a demonstration in Belem
Off duty police officers are blamed for many killings
A United Nations envoy investigating extra-judicial killings by Brazilian police has given a damning account of her findings so far.

The envoy, Asma Jahangir, said that the state of human rights in Brazil could not be compared with other countries.

"In Congo there's a war," she said. "Brazil is a democracy. But what I see here is a wretched, sad situation where there is NO JUSTICE."

Mrs Jahangir was speaking to reporters in Rio de Janeiro after visiting two shanty-towns, known as favelas, where she heard testimonies from about 20 mothers and other relatives of people said to have died at the hands of the police.

She arrived in Brazil on 16 September for a three-week investigation into summary executions and other killings allegedly carried out by police.

Impunity

Human rights groups in Brazil say many killings are carried out by death squads made up of police officers and vigilantes.

Unofficial figures compiled by these groups indicate that in 1999, almost 14,000 people were killed by police or death squads.


The police cannot fight crime by committing crime
UN envoy Asma Jahangir

Some of these deaths happened in gun battles between police and criminals, but many of those killed were suspects, innocent bystanders, witnesses or petty crooks.

Human rights campaigners say that even when there is an inquiry into such deaths, very few suspected killers are ever brought to trial.

Changes

On Sunday, Mrs Jahangir spent four hours in the favelas of Borel and Jacarezinho.

She said that the government of President Luis Inacio Lula da Silva had made efforts to end police impunity and reduce violence, but that profound changes were needed.

She said: "The police cannot fight crime by committing crime."

During her investigation, Mrs Jahangir has visited five Brazilian states and the capital, Brasilia.

She returns to the UN in Geneva on Wednesday to write her report, which is expected to take three to six months.

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written by Ric, December 23, 2006
So once she´s gone, Brazil will no longer suffer from Asma?
You get what you deserve
written by pbvt, December 26, 2006
What can you expect from a government that forces everyone to vote. That’s right, it’s against the law NOT to vote in Brazil. The thieves in office count on the poor and uneducated vote to keep them in office... That is why they put numbers on all their adds and in the voting booths.. The people can't read the names of the thieves running for office but they can understand numbers.. They promise these people the world and what do they wind up with, garbage dumps to live in..
Para Bo
written by A brazilian, December 26, 2006
Você sabia que números podem ser manipulados para mostrar o que bem entendem? O que esse monte de números prova, seu idiota? Esse site de propaganda anti-brasileira me dá nojo, principalmente por esse bando de asnos que infelizmente não tem nada melhor para fazer da vida além de ficar procurando no Google notícias ruins para "provar" o que quer que eles queiram provar.

Os Estados Unidos é o país com o maior sistema carcerário do mundo, logo podemos concluir que sua população é formada por bandidos, estupradores e traficantes?

Gringos de merda.
A Braz is a head-case
written by grunt, December 26, 2006
Você sabia que números podem ser manipulados para mostrar o que bem entendem?


What do you mean o great statistician? You mean that 11% of the world’s homicides might actually mean something else? 11% of the world´s rice production, maybe? Typical dodge and weave ad hominen attack. Your ignorance radiates.

O que esse monte de números prova, seu idiota?


Simple, Brazil is one of the most violent countries in the world. It’s not difficult to draw that conclusion, trutinho. The numbers say it loudly and simply. You have some serious information to counter the data given to you? I didn´t think so.

Esse site de propaganda anti-brasileira me dá nojo


So, do us a favor and PISS OFF.

principalmente por esse bando de asnos que infelizmente não tem nada melhor para fazer da vida além de ficar procurando no Google notícias ruins para "provar" o que quer que eles queiram provar.


No one needs to spend too much time on Google. Just go to Terra.com.br, Globo-online, or any other Brazilian website, on any given day, and you’ll find enough material to stop your heart. Sadly, s**t heads like you seem to think everything is just SWELL in Brazil, and it operates and functions just like any other country in the world. You’re the problem in your own country: blind, intentionally uninformed and willfully-ignorant.

Os Estados Unidos é o país com o maior sistema carcerário do mundo


GOOD! So their police, courts and judicial system works. I’d rather have these vermin in prison, than ruling the streets like in Rio and Sao Paulo (or any other city in the union).

..logo podemos concluir que sua população é formada por bandidos, estupradores e traficantes?


If everyone is locked up how the hell do you draw that conclusion? shheeesh, you´re thick.

You know, you really are one of the dumbest people I have had the misfortune of reading on this site. If I were you I wouldn’t be too worried about a few gringos posting facts about Brazil and the country's inability to leave the 19th century. You’re in serious need of psychiatric aid so you should be spending your time seeking out a decent head doctor.

Gringos de merda.

Ya, that was witty…..
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written by e harmony, December 26, 2006
What can you expect from a government that forces everyone to vote. That’s right, it’s against the law NOT to vote in Brazil. The thieves in office count on the poor and uneducated vote to keep them in office... That is why they put numbers on all their adds and in the voting booths.. The people can't read the names of the thieves running for office but they can understand numbers.. They promise these people the world and what do they wind up with, garbage dumps to live in..


Most Brazilians are literate, many perhaps are functionally illiterate but the same can be said of the United States (27% of the adult population of my own city [USA] is "functionally illiterate"). But even functionally illiterate people can read names, they just suffer from an inability to comprehend sentences along with numbers. Math is itself a language and requires one to be literate within its own subject. My point is, your own post resonates with a certain level of functional illiteracy and proves the gringo, educated in his or her own native school, is not to be assumed the "sharpest knife in the drawer."

Para Grunt
written by A brazilian, December 26, 2006
What do you mean o great statistician? You mean that 11% of the world’s homicides might actually mean something else? 11% of the world´s rice production, maybe? Typical dodge and weave ad hominen attack. Your ignorance radiates.


Animal, números não dizem nada a respeito de si mesmos, ele precisam ser interpretados. O número 5 não carrega nenhum juízo de bem ou de mal, mas as pessoas os dão. Ex: uma determinada localidade tem uma taxa de mortalidade infantil de 10%. Isso é terrível?

Existem duas opções:

- Um gringo idiota usa isso como "prova" de que algum lugar é uma porcaria, apenas para massagear o seu próprio ego e aproveitar a fazer uma propagandinha;
- Uma pessoa sensata diz que a mortalidade diminuiu de 40 para 10% graças a iniciativas do governo no combate a pobreza, e tende a diminuir mais;

Isso é demais para a sua cabecinha? Viu, o mesmo número, um gringo idiota e uma pessoa sensata.

No one needs to spend too much time on Google. Just go to Terra.com.br... blind, intentionally uninformed and willfully-ignorant.


Veja so quem fala, um gringo que é mantido cego, surdo e burro por uma midia que pinta os Estados Unidos como um lugar perfeito. Escondendo os milhões de miseráveis e todos os "indesejados" da vista da população, promovendo a idéia de que todos um dia serão astros famosos, bonitos ou ricos.

Depois de um Katrina qualquer aí vemos a miséria deles, só assim mesmo, quando é jogado na cara e eles não tem como negar.

A mídia brasileira é muito mais crítica do que qualquer coisa nos Estados Unidos. Aprenda sobre as misérias do seu próprio país antes de vir falar dos outros.

GOOD! So their police, courts and judicial system works. I’d rather have these vermin in prison, than ruling the streets like in Rio and Sao Paulo (or any other city in the union).


Como chegaste a essa conclusão? Os Estados Unidos são o maior consumidor de drogas do mundo, logo a sua polícia não faz um bom trabalho.

If everyone is locked up how the hell do you draw that conclusion? shheeesh, you´re thick.


Pela quantidade de traficantes de drogas, ladrões e estupradores a solta nos Estados Unidos como você chegou a conclusão de que "todos estão presos"? Falso senso de segurança.
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written by e harmony, December 26, 2006
Simple, Brazil is one of the most violent countries in the world. It’s not difficult to draw that conclusion, trutinho. The numbers say it loudly and simply. You have some serious information to counter the data given to you? I didn´t think so.


If the numbers do not lie then it is justified to place the United States in the category of "one of the most violent countries in the world." I placed up a U.S. news article on the forum boards already, which stated that had it not been for improvements in U.S. medical care in trauma cases over the last 40 years or so then the U.S. would have an estimated 30,000 to 50,000 murders annually. In other words attempted homicide has a "sky high" rate in the U.S. and it is due to advanced medical technology and care that the U.S. homicides are reduced to the degree they are. Because of this some have argued that homicide numbers within the U.S. are no longer adequate means to gauge violence within the nation.
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written by e harmony, December 26, 2006
I placed up a U.S. news article on the forum boards already, which stated that had it not been for improvements in U.S. medical care in trauma cases over the last 40 years or so then the U.S. would have an estimated 30,000 to 50,000 murders annually.


Edit that to say: an estimated 30,000 to 50,000 more murders annually.
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written by Ric, December 26, 2006
So in your mind, a discussion about Brazilian lawmakers attempting to nearly double their salaries is somehow linked to the number of murders in a foreign country, in this case the USA? What does that tell us about your mind?
Para Ric
written by A brazilian, December 26, 2006
Isso diz que identificamos esse site como sendo um site propagandista anti-brasileiro, criado por americanos para promover uma agenda anti-brasileira e conseguir não apenas sabotar quaisquer tentativas de melhora mas garantir que ninguém mais o faça.

A quantidade de gringos imbecis que vêm aqui para mostrar as "verdades" que eles encontraram no Google mostra que vocês não batem bem da cabeça. Talvez se despendessem esse esforço para o seu próprio país talvez conseguissem melhorar alguma coisa dos muitos problemas que ele tem.
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written by grunt, December 26, 2006
Animal, números não dizem nada a respeito de si mesmos, ele precisam ser interpretados. O número 5 não carrega nenhum juízo de bem ou de mal, mas as pessoas os dão. Ex: uma determinada localidade tem uma taxa de mortalidade infantil de 10%. Isso é terrível?


5 means 5, 11% is 11%. You want to say that 11% of the world’s homicides in not bad, that is your business. I don’t think one needs to apply a “good or bad” value to 11% of the world’s homicides; we can all properly draw our own conclusions as you have. I just placed the numbers in front you of. You think it is fine, and we all think you are a retarded under-evolved delusional fool from a backwater s**t hole. It is obvious our judgment scales are different.

Veja so quem fala, um gringo que é mantido cego, surdo e burro por uma midia que pinta os Estados Unidos como um lugar perfeito.


Actually, given your depth and breadth on any subject matter, we can comfortably assume you to be media-illiterate, too. Reread what I wrote about Brazilian websites, vira lata, and you’ll see the weakness (nothing new though) of your remarks.

Depois de um Katrina qualquer aí vemos a miséria deles, só assim mesmo, quando é jogado na cara e eles não tem como negar.

What the hell does this have to do with anything? I´M CANADIAN. So, why do you repeatedly attack posts and gringos with info from the US? IF you want to hark and complain about S.Harper, Canada’s HUGE (cough cough) murder rate, and how we Canadians are trying to take over the world go ahead, but stop being an illiterate monkey spewing out mentally preprogrammed anti American leftist idiot hysteria.

You are truly the worst of this country.

Sadly, you are statistically in the majority!

If the numbers do not lie then it is justified to place the United States in the category of "one of the most violent countries in the world." I placed up a U.S. news article on the forum boards already, which stated that had it not been for improvements in U.S. medical care in trauma cases over the last 40 years or so then the U.S. would have an estimated 30,000 to 50,000 murders annually. In other words attempted homicide has a "sky high" rate in the U.S. and it is due to advanced medical technology and care that the U.S. homicides are reduced to the degree they are. Because of this some have argued that homicide numbers within the U.S. are no longer adequate means to gauge violence within the nation.


This can EASILY apply to Brazil too. You do know that Rio medics are now among some of the best in the world in treating gunshot wounds? Violent crimes in Brazil are skyrocketing, too. But, again, it is a straw man argument, with no weight what so ever. I could just as easily say, in my country CANADA (ohhh, Caannnnaaaadddaaaa!), if the population where 2 billion, we could have one of the highest murder rates too. As useless argument. Can we not deal in reality for a change?

The fact is, Brazil is one of the most dangerous countries in the world and every single stat you bring up only solidifies this truism.
Para o canadense
written by A brazilian, December 26, 2006
Mal consegui ler esse monte de lixo de mais um nazista espalhando ódio por esse site. Com uma taxa de 5 palavrões por linha escrita demonstraste bem que fui certeiro nas minhas colocações. Essas estatísticas não são nada mais que números maquiados para satisfazer gringos de pau pequeno e que tem uma necessidade de se auto afirmar por alguma razão que desconhecemos.

E sim, a mídia brasileira é extremamente crítica. Ela vai muito além de qualquer outro país no que concerne em mostrar a realidade. Esses gringos imbecis vivem num mundo de contos de fadas, onde são protegidos das verdades que poderiam fazer suas ilusões em mil pedacinhos.

Quanto ao Canadá, bom, viva sua vida racialmente segregada num desses guetos que vocês adoram! smilies/smiley.gif Depois vá brincar um pouco eugenia com o seu parentes da KKK. Racista de merda.

Enquanto isso, brasileiros, trabalhemos!
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written by Ric, December 26, 2006
People I know and care about, last week: Thursday, kid who works for me has a gun put to his head and his bike stolen. Same day, three kids we know attending nearby school when armed gunmen take the place over and steal computers and other articles. Friday, teen we know sees guy shot to death in front of fruit stand, five shots. Kid who lost his bike on Thursday sees a guy in front of him removing a pistol from his pocket, but recognizes the guy, guy talks to him, puts gun back in pocket, kids walks on, looks back to see perp holding up a lady and taking her purse. Only the murder and the school incident are reported to police. And our area of Brazil is not known for its crime......

E a culpa, é de quem? Será que tem jeito?

There was a day when info could be supressed. Foreign languages could be prohibited. The media could be controlled. But the internet changed all that. Anyone with a serious problem re: the USA should stop using the WWW because it belongs to the states.

I always listen to the Portuguese radio station in Hanford, CA when driving through there. In my home town, Long Beach, you can listen to Spanish, Vietnamese, Korean, and others. Foreign language radio is not prohibited in the USA.

Freedom of information. Finally comes to the rest of the world via the net. Up to user to sort it all out. Happy New Year. Ou, Próximo ano novo, doutora......

Brasileiros, uni-vos
written by A brazilian, December 26, 2006
É por essas e por outras que não votei nesse débil mental do Cristovam Buarque. O cara compactua com sites propagandistas como esse, onde os mantenedores não tem sequer o interesse em moderar o fórum. Depois esses intelectos inferiores que vem aqui copiar e colar "estatísticas" do Google e se esbaldar em suas próprias fezes! Com o consentimento do site e para a alegria de determinados grupos interessados na nossa destruição.

Brasileiros, mantenham-se firmes contra esses imbecis que ficar à espreita esperando a primeira notícia ruim para exibir sua bocarra hedionda e com ela tentar contaminar os corações dos aqui presentes. Eles não tem poder.

Esse país é único, e temos aqui a maior riqueza de todas as nações, ou seja, UM povo. Gringos de merda, não passam de seres incompletos, uns apenas uma bocarra, outros uma grande orelha, outros só estômago e barriga. Nem parecem humanos, parecem mais paródias.
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written by bo, December 26, 2006
Os Estados Unidos é o país com o maior sistema carcerário do mundo, logo podemos concluir que sua população é formada por bandidos, e