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The World Ignores the Brazilian Genius at Its Own Peril PDF Print E-mail
Written by Peter Howard Wertheim   
Sunday, 11 February 2007 22:37

A bridge in Brazilian capital BrasíliaUnfortunately during the 20th century and now the 21st century Brazil and Latin America have only been a blip on the US governments radar screens. Only when there was a threat of a leftist takeover, a coup d'état or an earthquake did the  US State Department start to worry.

I read somewhere that when told about a brutal and corrupt dictator in South America, former President Franklin Delano Roosevelt (FDR) responded: "He is a son of a bitch but he is our son of a bitch." Well that doesn't work any more. 

I saw Indians in the Amazon that had barely enough food to eat but had a TV set and received transmissions from Globo TV, the fourth largest TV network in the world. People might be poor and illiterate but they know what is going on in the world.

The Bush administration is deeply involved with the Middle East and the war in Iraq. Latin America is practically ignored by this government.

The international press continues saying that President Lula is a leftist. How funny. They confuse being from a working class family and being a former union leader with being leftist. People change, but the label remains. During his first term in office Lula appointed Henrique Meirelles, a former CEO of BankBoston, a strict monetarist and member of the opposition PSDB party as Central Bank president and later promoted him to Ministerial status.

Lula has followed a conservative economic policy. The highest interest rates in the world and a few palliative social programs. Brazil is the paradise for investors in the stock markets. Why invest in productive activities when you can earn a fortune overnight by investing in the financial markets. The result is more unemployment and a widening gap between the rich ad the poor.

Countless aristocrats and highfalutin intellectuals in Europe were members of the Communist party during the 20s and 30s, until they saw their socialist dreams crumble vis-à-vis the gulags, the terror, the genocide in the former Soviet Union.

The now deceased, world famous French philosopher Jean Paul Sartre was a member of the communist party, which he later left chastising the Soviet Union for having set up a brutal dictatorship.

Lula will continue to expand Brazil's fuel ethanol program, biodiesel and H-Bio (diesel made from plants). And these alternative energies will make a splash in the international market, specially in Europe and Asia.

In March President George W. Bush is visiting Brazil and it is reported that one item on the agenda will be exporting fuel ethanol to the USA.

Now it is difficult to export Brazilian ethanol to the US. The American government subsidizes farmers despite the fact that ethanol in the US (made from corn) is more expensive to produce than Brazilian ethanol from sugar cane. In addition the US charges taxes on the importation of Brazilian ethanol.

Recent studies say that Brazil has the possibility of becoming the largest world power in alternative non-polluting energy just as Saudi Arabia is the largest exporter of petroleum.

During the next ten years  the plantation of sugar cane in Brazil is expected to yield 1.2 billion barrels of fuel ethanol per day. Petrobras has plans of becoming a fuel ethanol (or alcohol as said in Brazil) multinational. It already exports the product to Venezuela, Nigeria and Japan.

Petrobras brain CENPES in Rio de Janeiro, its world class R&D center is being physically increased a lot and pumped full of cash for further research and cooperation with their international peers.

Brazil is a very innovative country. Just give Brazilians the conditions and they create new technology, come out with new ideas etc. Cenpes will continue delighting the world with practical, economic technological innovations for ultra deep waters exploration and production.

Foreign organizations ignore Cenpes at your own expense! It's no coincidence that Petrobras won the Offshore Technology Award (OTC) in Houston twice for excellence in deep water exploration and production. The OTC award is granted every year by dozens of international oil companies.

Oil in the Amazon: Brazil's lightest oil is produced in the Amazon and there are millions of cubic meters of natural gas there. The problem of course is logistics. Difficult access, difficult transport of the products in and out of the region. But this is changing. Pipelines are being built, cities like Manaus, the capital of the Amazon state, are becoming major consumer centers.

Yes there is much corruption and disorganization in Brazil. But tell me a country where there isn't? Corruption scandals with Enron, WorldCom and other companies led President Bush to pass an anti-corruption bill.

Hungarian leader said: "We lie in the morning, we lie in the afternoon and we lie at night." The British government has been accused of exchanging cash donations to the ruling Labor party in exchange for a place in the House of Lords.

No country can hold the moral high ground.

I am amazed with the lack of basic knowledge of foreign cultures, economics and politics by many Western leaders. The Pope, hailed as a great theologian, making a speech that was interpreted by Muslims as offensive is sheer folly! And he is not alone in his ignorance. My hero, Albert Einstein once said, "there is only one disease that has no cure. Ignorance."

Half jokingly, I told an American executive who had arrived recently in Brazil that "even Brazilian thieves had to work harder than thieves in the US."  How so," he asked astounded? Well, I responded, in America they rob dollars while here we have the Brazilian real which is not worth the paper it is printed on"..

Many Brazilians are very hard working. Most Brazilians are apolitical. They do not give a damn about politics. Public opinion polls show that most Brazilians feel that most politicians are corrupt and you have to fend for yourself. Voting is mandatory by law in Brazil.

An international study showed that Brazil ranked first among several countries polled where respondents said they preferred to own their own business than being employees. Unfortunately the bureaucracy to establish a small business  is so Kafkaesque, complex and taxes so high that most people become discouraged.

Brazilians certainly won't engage in ethnic or religious violence. If you are a victim of violence it is because of someone's greed, he wants your cash or property. The thug doesn't care about your religion, color or nationality. Unlike the nazis who murdered Jews, physically or mentally disabled people and gypsies, Brazilian thugs are "democratic." Anyone is fair game, as long as they have cash. No prejudice against anyone. Just cash. 

No one in Brazil is going to blow himself up in the name of a "holy" war. Brazilians come from a Judeo Christian background and the fear of death is deeply instilled by belief in God just as in most Western societies.

Peter Howard Wertheim is a veteran international journalist specializing in covering South America's petroleum and power sectors. He is based in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, and is fluent in English, Portuguese and Spanish. Comments welcome at  This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it or This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it .

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And the point is ... ?
written by original_lion, February 12, 2007
And the point of this article is ... ?

Sorry for bursting your bubble but science & technology (the "genius", as you call it) in Brazil is so weak that it could be compared to scientific achievements of, for example, Botswana or Zimbabwe. For example, in a huge country of 180 million people, not one Brazilian ever won a Nobel. (In Europe, there are countries of 5 million people that have several Nobel laureates.) Or any other significant award, for that matter.

Yes Petrobras is OK, and some other state agencies (e.g. EMBRAPA) but the rest of the Brazilien education and R&D system is bad, very bad.
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written by bo, February 12, 2007
Now it is difficult to export Brazilian ethanol to the US. The American government subsidizes farmers despite the fact that ethanol in the US (made from corn) is more expensive to produce than Brazilian ethanol from sugar cane. In addition the US charges taxes on the importation of Brazilian ethanol.



Wonder why that is Einstein??? Have you been to the sugar cane fields in Alagoas??? I have, numerous times. You should see the people they have working those fields, it's a tragedy.
This article is a joke, right?
written by Dante, February 12, 2007
This article is a joke, right?

I am sorry but the author needs to study a little more the way Brazil works.



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written by Dante, February 12, 2007
And regarding the comment on Pope Benedict you are wrong. I think you did not read what he said. You are using just stupid lefty European argument, please check your sources and do not use this kind of bad argument. As a reader we deserve something better. By the way, I was born in Brazil and I can tell you that you are completely wrong on your arguments. Brazil is facing a major cultural change and it is for the worse.
International journalist
written by Peter Howard Wertheim, February 12, 2007
By the way Dante, I was also born in Brazil.
About the Pope's comments:

In a world where tension, between countries, cultures and religions is heightened, the comments are provocative and grossly inappropriate. What Pope Benedict was thinking when he quoted 14th century emperor Manuel II Palaeologus, suggesting that Prophet Mohammed had only brought evil into the world, God only knows. Was he actually thinking? What about the Crusades led by the Catholic church and Popes in the Middle ages. What about the Inquisition? By the way Dante, I was raised as a Roman Catholic. But the luxury and material splendor of the Church has nothing to do with Jesus Christ, the humble son of a carpenter who was crucified because he preached peace and love, exactly the opposite of what Pope Benedict said in his speech.

The Vatican has since offered public apologies, including a personal apology from the pontiff, saying his quote did not reflect his personal thoughts. The quote is incredibly inflammatory and its inclusion in his speech displays a blatant lack of sensitivity. Furthermore, it undermines legitimate points made in the speech.

"Stupid lefty arguments," you wrote. I come down hard on the Soviet Union in my article. My parents fled a Soviet satellite country at the end of World War ll and that is why I was born in Brazil.
Peace and love to you Dante.

Peter

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written by A brazilian, February 12, 2007
For example, in a huge country of 180 million people, not one Brazilian ever won a Nobel. (In Europe, there are countries of 5 million people that have several Nobel laureates.) Or any other significant award, for that matter.


OMG, and how does it relate to the ability of a country to generate wealth? The article use a more pragmatic view, we need results, and I agree with that. We definetely don't need bigger egos.

Brazil is pretty capable in the scientific area, the main problem in education is in the basic level of the public sector, not in colleges or higher education. You should get your facts straight.
Nobel
written by me, February 12, 2007
how does it relate to the ability of a country to generate wealth?


Well Nobel is a pretty good indicator of achievement, don't you think... Let me see... DNA, transistor, laser... All Nobel prizes. All inventions that changed the world.

Which brings us back to Brazil, and its lack of Nobels... No wonder the situation here is at it is.
Peter Howard, who are you?
written by Joao Carlos, February 12, 2007
What are your real interests in talking about Brazil?
International correspondent
written by Peter Howard Wertheim, February 12, 2007
Dante,

For 20 years Pope Benedict XVl was Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, formerly known as the Holy Office, the historical Inquisition.
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written by A brazilian, February 12, 2007
Well Nobel is a pretty good indicator of achievement, don't you think...


Personal achievement, nothing more. The situation is much more complex than one or a hundred "revolucionary" inventions could ever solve.

Which brings us back to Brazil, and its lack of Nobels... No wonder the situation here is at it is.


No relationship of cause and effect whatsoever.
International correspondent
written by Peter Howard Wertheim, February 12, 2007
I ask you João Carlos. Who are you? Name and surname? What do you do for a living? My full name is on the Brazzil magazine article and I am a journalist. More importantly this is a free forum where I believe all human beings can respectfully express their opinions.

Peter
WE THE PEOPLE
written by forrest allen brown, February 12, 2007
IF TO POPE CARED FOR THE PEOPLE AS HE SHOULD HE WOULD SAY USE COMDOMS , STOP SEX BEFORE MARRIGE , HAVE FEWER CHILDREN ,
IF THE GOVERMENT CARED FOR THE PEOPLE THEY WOULD , PASS THE MINIUM WAGE , STOP STEALING ALL THE MONEY FROM THE SCHOOLS , HEALTH CARE , OLD AGE BENFITS

IF THE PEOPLE CARED THEY WOULD NOT RELECT THE ONES IN CHARGE , AND DEMAND A GOVERMENT THAT WORKS FOR THEM NOT FOR THEM SELVES

ALL THIS COVERS THE U.S.A. AND BRAZIL

SHOULD THE PEOPLE GROW SOME BALLS AND LIVE WITH IT .

OR SHOULD WE GRAB THE GOVERMENT AND BIG BUSINESS BY THE BALLS AND MAKE THEM LIVE WITH IT
International journalist
written by Peter Howard Wertheim, February 12, 2007
Well, João Carlos you forgot the till on top of the a in your name...Who are you?

I don't know where you are. Perhaps we are in different time zones because I am in Brazil and perhaps you didn't have time to respond. As a Brazilian (as your name indicates) you know the old saying in Portuguese: "Toda unanimidade é burra." This is an open forum and anyone who wishes can express his or her opinion. No one, not even best seller multi millionaire writer Paulo Coelho pleases every one with his comments. Can you imagine a world where every one had the same opinions? It would be very boring indeed. Attila the Hun; Alexander the Great. Roman Emperor Nero, Hitler and Stalin. just to name a few who tried to create societies where every one thought alike. They and many other dictators failed. And until the day that human beings are sucessfully cloned and there are still people with a mind of their own there will be diverging opinions, within common sense and reason of course.

Peter
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written by american eagle, February 12, 2007
Well said Peter Howard Wertheim..!
office of delinquint accounts
written by american eagle, February 12, 2007
Except,... for the title of your opinion piece... the first world ignores Brazil because ," it lacks genius"... as far as stating ," at its own peril"... I don,t think so !!!...
Good junkie...this writer.....
written by ch.c., February 12, 2007
...who says Brazil will produce ethanol at the rate of 1,2 billion barrel PER DAY !!!!!!!!
Especially knowing the world oil production is around 85 millions bpd !!!!!!!!

REALLY LAUGHABLE !!!!!!!

As to subsidizes and tariffs : doesnt Brazil subsidizes COFFEE when price is low ? What about
2005 and 2006 subsidizes for GRAINS ? Just re-read your own news !!!!!!

And what about your 100 % or more import taxes on foreign made cars ??????
And what about your 100 % or so import taxes on PCs ???????

Doesnt Brazil OBLIGE foreign tractor manufacturers to set up a plant in Brazil to benefit
reduced import taxes provided that 60 % of the part are built in Brazil ????? YESSSSSS YOU DO !!!!!


But sadly it is true that tens of millions Brazilians are under nourrished, millions are in hunger. This doesnt stop you to export agricultural products, meaning food, to the tune of
US$ 50 billion annually ??????? Yesssss you do ! Shame to these practices instead of feeding your own society....FIRST !!!!!!

Finally where is the Brazilian Genius ?
- In cars manufacturaing ? Sorry ALL manufacturers are foreigners !!!!
- Flex fuel engine ? Sorry this was VW !
- Chips or semiconductors inventions ? Laugh !
- High education ? Sorry 10,5 % of students have a university degree, but 86,5 % in South Korea !
- Biotechnology ? You will invest (eventually) US$ 2 billion per year ! A DROP IN THE OCEAN compared to what is invested by each of the EU/USA/Japan !
- R&D ? please compare numbers and join my laugh !

Yessssss....my question is where is the Brazilian Genius ??????? Ethanol ? You are the largest producer because you have the land and the climate for sugarcane ! No need to be a genius !!!!!! Ethanol was already used by the first Ford T model around 100 years ago !!!!!

Lets conclude with your Famous Ethanol Exports. The rosiest number estimates your exports at less than 10 billions LITERS (not gallons) annually in 5-7 years.
Knowing that your production costs is US 0,25 per liter (before your own taxes) plus lets say some profit margin of 10 cents...will make all your ethano exports WORTH FAR LESS THAN US$ 5 BILLION !!!!!!
Will Brazil solve ALL its problems with an additional US$ 5 billion in export in an actual total overall exports of US$ 150 billion or so ??????? Doubtful ! laugh....laugh...laugh !!!!

And do you expect that the importing countries should put a ZERO impor tax so that the Brazilian government can put a HIGH export tax ?????? It will not work that way....in my view ! Guess who....will disagree !!!!

And no doubt that you voluntary hide the fact that sugarcane create millions of slaves alike knowing that 40 % of your actual sugarcane production of 400 millions tons IS HARVESTED.....MANUALLY !!!!!!
And No doubt that you will oblige again forteign manufacturers to set up plants in Brazil otherwise you will charge a very high import tax on Mechanical Sugarcane Harvesters....just like for the tractors mentioned above !!!!!!!

In one way....you want it all ! Not very fair....in my view !
A little harsh
written by GTY, February 12, 2007
While the article is over the top, I don't think it is fair to discount the achievements in Brazil. First, I think that Lula and Bush will do a trade deal on Ethanol, for economic and security reasons the more ethanol we import from Brazil, the less oil we need from Chavez. Our current ethanol efforts here are with corn, which has increased the price of food staples, and the poor Mexicans? Tortillas are triple the price. The US is a long way from renewable energy, a low priced source of ethanol makes sense so this deal will happen. Don't bet the farm on the "new" renewable energy or Biodiesel stocks in the US, we will drill Anwar before they are viable, and Brazil will provide us with our ethanol, a good deal for all.

The Brazilian auto industry was first to mass produce the flex vehicles and Embraer has kicked ass in the regional jet market. Don't forget the Taurus, the throw way handgun of choice for those ever frugal drug dealers. The medical research done at the University in Sao Paulo, while with no Nobel winners is noteworthy, the first drug coated heart stents were inserted succesfuly in human patients here and multi-national pharma conducts many of there Phase 3 Clinical Trials here. Brazil is king of reverse, engineering, even better than China, patents mean nothing in Brazil and they have created a generic drug market that keeps the CEO's of big pharma on Prozac themselves.

Brazil leads in Biotechnology and research for agriculture with cutting edge work being done at the university of Ribero Preto. While there has not been a Bill Gates or Paul Allen there, you must give Brazil the nod for intellectual achievement and achievemnt in the region.
The sub-human ch.c
written by A brazilian, February 13, 2007
While there has not been a Bill Gates or Paul Allen there, you must give Brazil the nod for intellectual achievement and achievemnt in the region.


The behavior from the sub-human ch.c is expected to be this inflammatory and utterly stupid.
THE REAL PROBLEM OF ETHANOL
written by Dante, February 13, 2007
Peter,

You are a clear example of why Brazil does not work. I will not discuss religion and I think that you should not use religion in this kind of article; it is unprofessional to tell you the truth. Please study more before you say such things, it just sounds bad. Another thing Brazil does not have enough area to plant all this sugarcane, unless the country brings to a collapse its environment. Please read this article it will show you some problems regarding the business side of your idea. (http://www.businessweek.com/pr...493909.htm)
The truth is that Ethanol is just propaganda from Mr. Lula da Silva government. Brazil and some very unreasonable people in Europe and North America buy this solution. I know that scientists do not since it would bring the collapse of the Amazon system. I do know that the morons in the Brazilian government would approve plantations of sugarcane in the Amazon but the results would be catastrophic for Brazil. Read this National Geographic article (http://news.nationalgeographic...hanol.html) it will help you understand the real problem.
To resume, your idea or should I say PT's idea does not work since Americans and Europeans would not buy the idea. By the way, do you know that American companies are introducing electric motors that are highly efficient, for example the Chevrolet Volt?

Good luck for you, I hope you change your mind. Wake up! Please we need reasonable people in the sea of ignorance that prevails in Brazil.
Dante
written by A brazilian, February 13, 2007
As far as I understand Ethanol is not a complete solution to the problem of oil dependence, but something that can alleviate it. I am not aware of the current usage of Brazil soil for this purpose and didn't see anybody suggesting, either in this article or in others, to use the Amazon for it, but the author of the article doesn't propose it as a "miracle solution" for all problems of the world, just as an example of brazilian capability.

But, despite of not being the Holy Grail of fuels, It is indeed something Brazil can be credited for. We pioneered the use of it by the masses.

Dante, are you brazilian?
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written by A brazilian, February 13, 2007
BTW, the link you gave yourself only provides especulation about "the destruction of the Amazon", not sure why you use it in such a "undeniable evidence" way.
american ingenuity
written by u.s. capital, February 13, 2007
Ethanol?? ...The u.s. is perfectly capable of oil and gas exploration and refinemint for its domestic needs... it has the means and the properties, and is allready being implemented...
credibility problem
written by u.s. capital, February 13, 2007
besides your dismal rep**ation on wall street for not delivering sugar commodities,and questionable accounting of inventories is a problem....
Trends, fads, fantasys, agendas, schemes, hot air, etc
written by u.s. capital, February 13, 2007
I have a toothache i think i,ll cut back on candy !
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written by Ric, February 13, 2007
I think it´s naive to imply that the Pope mispoke himself. When he pontificates, he knows exactly what he is doing. Nothing By Chance.

Based on a 42 gallon oil barrel and 3.78 liters to the gallon, I came up with the numbers that U.S. oil consumption is 7,592,730,000 barrels per year and Brazil´s total ethanol production 94,482,237 barrels per year, in other words, Brazil´s total ethanol yearly production is a little over one and one half percent of the U.S. total oil consumption. To be sure, there are other factors involved here as well. But once again, the USA could put all their land into corn for alcohol and still produce only a fraction of the needed fuel.

In the states I don´t buy Shell because they mix in ethanol and the cars are not made for it. In Iowa other stations mix it in as well.

Brazilians are very ingenious and in the shop can do very creative things with machinery and systems in ways that the manufacurers never envisioned. The first and so far as I know the only certified production airplane that uses ethanol for fuel is the Embraer Ipanema.
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written by SAVY, February 13, 2007
At the risk of being politicaly incorrect...the Pope spoke the truth about Islam. I agree with RIC that ethanol is currently just a politicaly correct "fad" in the US right now, US energy independence requires a real committment that includes exploration, drilling and refining, as wel as a "Manhattan Project" type effort to develop REAL solutions to the consumption problem. All new cars being produced in the US now have flex capabilites but run like s**t on ethanol. Try going up a steep hill in your H3 on ethanol.

I didn't know Embraer planes can fly on ethanol, that is remarkable.
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written by Ric, February 13, 2007
Only one, an agplane, with a six-cylinder Lycoming engine.
International Journalist
written by Howard Cosell, February 13, 2007
Look at that little monkey go!!!
Ethanol
written by Dante, February 13, 2007
Good link with more information regarding ethanol. http://www.slate.com/id/2122961/
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written by Dante, February 13, 2007
A brazilian,

If by brazilian you imply somebody born in Brazil, yes I am. But I prefer to say I was born in Sao Paulo. I am Italian and I was educated in the United States. I do not share the Brazilian culture and I believe that everything decent that Brazil had died out when Sao Paulo lost its course for independence from this vicious country in 1932.

There are innumerous Academic studies regarding the impact of ethanol production, you can find them all over just do some research.
Big oil
written by u.s. capital, February 13, 2007
Keep your sugar for your cakes !!... my cadillac gets toothaches, headaches, attracts ants, diabetes,etc...
Dante
written by A brazilian, February 13, 2007
You just dodged the whole discussion. First you come in here make some big strawman arguments about the author and what he said, more especifically of the Ethanol being a Holy Grail of fuels and that it would solve all oil dependence problems of the world, and then use some speculative article of people claiming that eventually one day the Amazon might suffer because of it, even if in the same article some authorities give a more accurate description that contradicts the "apolyptical" predictions of some NGOs.

Nobody said that Ethanol is a miracle, but that it is something Brazil can be credited for (the genius theme the author brought up) and it can help to alleviate the problem of oil dependence.

Nobody said to replace the Amazon with sugar cane plantation, but to use this capability Brazil already has in order to make some business internationally.

About your comments on Brazil and Sao Paulo, well, you are a bigot. Not because of the independence talk but because of your "vicious country" description. There are many problems inside Sao Paulo and outside of it, but someone with a open mind would think of making this big country to work as a symphony. How? Correcting its problems, creating. Isn't it a challenge? Really worth people would see it as such, i.e., not bigots like you.

I would rather say that paulistas need to colonize the rest of the country.

A brazilian
written by Dante, February 13, 2007
I chose not answer such unwise comments. Personal attacks, nice, you are just like Peter. The effects on the Amazon will be indirect, not direct; it will not be sugarcane but the other things that used the sugarcane land. I think you read articles and you can not interpret them, it is ok, the majority of brazilians are like that, this is called functional Illiteracy. The truth is that many people in Brazil are not used to Academic discussion. I will not waste my time with this. I expressed my opinion already. Good luck colonizing Brazil, maybe you will even find the so called Eldorado.
Dante
written by A brazilian, February 13, 2007
Funny that you cited personal attacks on you and used of them in all your posts, like for example:

I think you read articles and you can not interpret them, it is ok, the majority of brazilians are like that, this is called functional Illiteracy.


If you want to participate in a conversation of adults, better to behave like an adult. You have only one article in here related to it, and the data in there were no more than speculation.
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written by A brazilian, February 13, 2007
I do know that the morons in the Brazilian government would approve plantations of sugarcane in the Amazon but the results would be catastrophic for Brazil. Read this National Geographic article ...


Here you use the "replace the Amazon with sugar cane" argument, and provides an article that has no concrete data whatsoever, just speculation.

To resume, your idea or should I say PT's idea does not work since Americans and Europeans would not buy the idea.


Here you demonstrated you don't have the facts right. This kind of fuel was first introduced decades ago, way before Lula became president. It's logically impossible that it is some "plan to fool people" from them.

Besides the plans for fuel autonomy were set decades ago, and it doesn't comprise only ethanol. This was widely publicized as an achievement from the Lula's government, although he was the one that started it, right before Bolivia decided to nationalize brazilian companies in Bolivia.

This is to demonstrate how you are either purposefully spreading misinformation or blissfully dwelling in ignorance.
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written by Ric, February 13, 2007
There´s more mention of the straw man in this blog than in The Wizard of Oz. Funny A Brazilian uses it so much and yet seems to never taken a course in college Logic.

As info, from what I understand 20% of ethanol is produced in the NE, 70% in the State of São Paulo, and 10% Other.
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written by Dante, February 13, 2007
I am sorry if I offended anybody. I used harsh language when I said 'vicious', the truth is that I want things to work for Brazil, and for this to happen people need to see the problems that this country has. I read some of the articles written by Mr Mark Wells and I was impressed by his lack of knowledge regarding Brazil, what a shame, this racial talk does not build any good for Brazil, and it is actually very frustrating to see him posing behind such bad sources. Mr. Wells did you know that Brazil lacks historical documentation that maintain your points of argument. This is the reality. Gilberto Freyre used mostly lousy arguments when he wrote his book 'Masters and Slaves' he did not have historical documentation to back his claims. Most of it was destroyed by the Brazilian government in the past, look at what Rui Barbosa did with brazilian records of slavary after the end of the Empire. Study more, as I understand you are getting a master now. I would recommend you use primary sources to do your research. Thank you Dante
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written by bo, February 14, 2007
About your comments on Brazil and Sao Paulo, well, you are a bigot. Not because of the independence talk but because of your "vicious country" description. There are many problems inside Sao Paulo and outside of it, but someone with a open mind would think of making this big country to work as a symphony. How? Correcting its problems, creating. Isn't it a challenge? Really worth people would see it as such, i.e., not bigots like you.

I would rather say that paulistas need to colonize the rest of the country.



LOL....when you point your finger at someone or something, you have 3 pointing back at you! Let's see, how many people have YOU called a bigot???

Could it be that YOU are the bigot.......naw!! smilies/wink.gif
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written by bo, February 14, 2007
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written by Dante, 2007-02-13 13:13:34

A brazilian,

If by brazilian you imply somebody born in Brazil, yes I am. But I prefer to say I was born in Sao Paulo. I am Italian and I was educated in the United States. I do not share the Brazilian culture....


that's a shame. You're missing out on a lot of good "ass-shaking" on Faustão on Sunday afternoons.
The real future of alternative energy
written by Dante, February 14, 2007
Private Investors invested $71 billion in 2006 on alternative energy!

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/business/stories/2007/01/23/0124bizethanol.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=6
Bo
written by GTY, February 15, 2007
In this string you called posters idiots, bigots and racists just because the have a different take or opinion...what happened in your childhood to make you so angry?
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written by bo, February 15, 2007
Bo
written by GTY, 2007-02-15 09:02:58

In this string you called posters idiots, bigots and racists just because the have a different take or opinion...what happened in your childhood to make you so angry?



Idiot?? Yeah, I use that a lot. bigot?? You have me confused with A brazilian, he's the one that's always crying bigot. Now, if I used that word, it was pointing out the fact that he always calls others that. It would kind of be like me saying, "hey gty, in this thread you called people idiots". Because you just mentioned the word in reference to my posts.

Did you get my cell number??? I'm waiting for your call.
Great Article
written by aesaac, February 15, 2007
Like Canada, do not underestimate Brazil. It is rich in natural resources and an infinity of land. The oil and gas reserves in the Amazon, the mineral wealth, the agricultural ingenuity, technical ingenuity, Brazil is an important global player in the next twenty years.
Aesaac
written by Dante, February 15, 2007
Canada and Brazil are two different realities. The comment seems very naïve.
Republicans Abroad in Brazil
written by I am a member of IRI ! I love Reporters without Boarders, February 15, 2007
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This is a group of Republicans that meet 3-4 times a year to exchange ideas, "get out the vote" drives for U.S. elections and organize events with U.S. Republican political figures visiting Brazil.
For more information contact Felicia Allard Smith at 3846-4133
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Dante
written by A brazilian, February 15, 2007
Depends on your point of view.
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written by Ric, February 15, 2007
Regarding the I.R.I. post, why would reporters have boarders anyway? Wouldn´t that tie them down? Are you really from Ripon or the same I.R.I. poster that previously posted all that canned, non-Republican sounding rhetoric from some special interest source? One can´t be too careful.....
sugar coated B--L S--T
written by u.s.a. # 1, February 16, 2007
A totally ridiculous article ...
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written by bo, February 16, 2007
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written by Ric, 2007-02-15 23:47:26

Regarding the I.R.I. post, why would reporters have boarders anyway?



hear that Ric, I knew a guy once that was part of that group, "reporters without lunch", you wanna talk about a group of drunkards?!!
Canada and Brazil are both underestimated similarly
written by aesaac, February 16, 2007
As to Canada and Brazil. They are both undervalued currencies. They both possess enormous areas of undeveloped land. They are large agronomic producers. They both posses large oil and gas reserves. They both possess large mineral wealth. These are a few of the similarities. There are a multitude of differences as well. . .It is naive to think they lack similitude, because of differences.
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written by I am an I.R.I. member. Cheers, February 16, 2007
American Society
Understand Brazilian culture, and why an American is called a gringo, and enjoy the American expatriate community while living in São Paulo by joining the American Society of São Paulo, an English-speaking club for expats.

Website: www.americansociety.com.br

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written by I am an I.R.I. member. Cheers, February 16, 2007
Republicans Abroad in Brazil
This is a group of Republicans that meet 3-4 times a year to exchange ideas, "get out the vote" drives for U.S. elections and organize events with U.S. Republican political figures visiting Brazil.
For more information contact Felicia Allard Smith at 3846-4133
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http://www.gringoes.com/subcat...tegoria=96
To aesaac
written by Dante, February 16, 2007

First, it is a pleasure to talk to you. Aesaac, Brazil does not have oil reserves like Canada, in fact Brazilian oil reserves are minimum and irrelevant compared to Canada. Most of this oil is not under the Amazon, the oil that Brazil has is in the deep ocean. Very expensive to explore. Second, Brazilian currency is not undervalued. The exports of Brazil are dropping extremely because the Real is overvalued. Third, Brazil does have mineral wealth, but it is very hard to explore if you follow Brazilian laws and do not want to be corrupt. Canada has better reserves than Brazil.

Canada is an amazing country, that do indeed have problems but I do not think you should compare this problems and qualities to Brazil, I still believe that the realities are different. Thank you Dante
The Real is backed by commodities, its value is determined by global demand and management
written by aesaac, February 16, 2007
There are vast differences between Canada and Brazil, but they are both sleeping giants. Canada is an infintely wealthy country, measured by natural resources, diamonds, ores, petroleum, agriculture, timber, and hardly anybody lives in Canada. The Canadian dollar at $.78 is desperately undervalued compared to the $1.05 or so that it reached. Western Canada hates the East. The wealth is in the west and it is spent in the East. The French hate the non French, the Saskatchuans hate the Indians. and Vancouver is now 'Hongcouver'. . .Canada is without style and does most of its shopping (metaphorically) at J.C. Pennys.

Brazil R$ now $2.10 was $3.00 almost a third some 18 months ago. Its currency is also backed by natural resources, Amazonian natural gas potential, ethanol real and potential, general agriculture, Petrobras is performing without limit. Brazil's problems of income disparity, graft, self interest, infra structure, are its limiting factors, among myriad others, but there is a forward progression, like a kind of great steam locomotion that moves exponentially. Brazil has greater art than Canada (excluding, maybe Montreal and Vancouver), but it is an artistic force, of global proportion.

Both countries are vastly underestimated. Though Canada is probably the safer bet, the prices in Brazil are infinitely less expensive, especially for land and labor.

Anyway Carnival is coming and the world will converge in the lazy summer heat on Rio. And the winter freeze of global warming will wrap Canada in its warm embrace for another couple of months. Ciao
Dante
written by A brazilian, February 16, 2007
You insist in making strawman arguments for "winning" the agument. Who compared Brazil and Canada mineral wealth? Who said Brazil has more minerals and that those are easier to retrieve than Canada? Don't think I am assuming what you said to be correct, because you provided no data, but I am just pointing out the ridiculous situation you have put yourself in.

If you hate Brazil then stay where you are, be happy and forget about us. Don't come to this site. Do whatever you feel like, but stop posting misinformation.
Straw man shows up again
written by Ric, February 17, 2007
You really are on the old Yellow Brick Road, aren´t you, Abe Razillion? Just say "housewares" ten times and two hail Marys and maybe the Wizard will forgive you for trying to exclude people from the site located just off the Arroyo Seco Parkway....
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written by bo, February 17, 2007
written by Ric, 2007-02-17 01:11:32


Just say "housewares" ten times...



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Don't come to this site
written by Tico Viva Costa Rica, February 17, 2007
If you hate Brazil then stay where you are, be happy and forget about us. Don't come to this site. Do whatever you feel like, but stop posting misinformation.

A brazilian dude, you are just like Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, Evo Morales and Lula. I already see you sending people to the "paredon". Everybody that disagree is stupid? :-
Don't come to this site
written by Tico Viva Costa Rica, February 17, 2007
If you hate Brazil then stay where you are, be happy and forget about us. Don't come to this site. Do whatever you feel like, but stop posting misinformation.

A brazilian dude, you are just like Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, Evo Morales and Lula. I already see you sending people to the "paredon". Everybody that disagree is stupid? :-
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written by Ric, February 19, 2007
One difference between A Brazilian Dude and the aforementioned four leaders is that they are rich and famous. In the case of President Lula, he also knows how to run machinery. As a legally inactive member of Teamsters 315, I can tell you that one of the main problems in Brazil today is that few who consider themselves educated can actually do anything. They won´t clean toilets and they don´t know how to weld or run a turret lathe or build a house or plant crops. Left to themselves they would starve.
Yes, don't come to this site
written by A brazilian, February 20, 2007
If your intentions are of spreading misinformation. Just take a look at the quantity of incorrect or biased information in here, it serves no purpose except that of a few US bigots who have too much spare time.

Funny that you ignore the whole Dante's mistake and just focus in this part of the text. I will take this as an agreement with everything else I have written in the previous comment.
Paradise Regained
written by Ric, February 20, 2007
By Dante. Now if he could just do the same for this present Paradise Lost. Abe, take anything you want. With total impunity.
Investing in Brasil
written by Susan, February 21, 2007
I admire Brasil for requiring flex-fuel engines in cars, whoever came up with idea was a visionary genius!!!
I would like to visit Brasil, but too many of my friends got mugged travelling there.
I think investors are scared of investing anywhere in South America because of Chavez, who brings down one government after another. Bolivia and uruguay turn leftist, who is next? Only country that is really successful is Chile, but even they will probably turn leftist. Argentina elects corrupt governments that just steal money, it is crazy they aren't more successful.

Isn't this author crazy for talking about the pope in an article about brasilian economy?
I am not even Roman Catholic and even I know he spoke the truth about atrocity loving muslims.
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written by bo, February 21, 2007
Paradise Regained
written by Ric, 2007-02-20 23:32:00

By Dante. Now if he could just do the same for this present Paradise Lost. Abe, take anything you want. With total impunity.



The brazilian way!

Investing in Brasil
written by Susan, 2007-02-21 03:49:56


Susan, think long and hard about that one my dear, trust me.
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written by A brazilian, February 21, 2007
I would like to visit Brasil, but too many of my friends got mugged travelling there.


Let me guess, have they been to Rio? Walking on the streets with some digital cameras and dollars visible?

I think investors are scared of investing anywhere in South America because of Chavez, who brings down one government after another.


People have absolutely no idea of dimensions, South America is huge. Hugo Chavez is an idiot thousands of kilometers away from Brazil. His influence is nil, except a few "donations" he made to some samba school and Petrobras and the other venezuelan company working together on a few projects.

It's not a surprise these geography impaired gringos think we all talk spanish. In all my life I have never heard a single word of spanish in Brazil. I have seen and heard more spanish in the US than in Brazil.
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written by bo, February 21, 2007
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written by A brazilian, 2007-02-21 11:44:38

I would like to visit Brasil, but too many of my friends got mugged travelling there.



Let me guess, have they been to Rio? Walking on the streets with some digital cameras and dollars visible?



LMAO!!! LMAO!!! LMAO!!! LMAO!!!


So, in other words, you are saying, YOU CAN NOT GO TO RIO DE JANEIRO AND HAVE THE BEHAVIOR OF A "NORMAL" HUMAN BEING!
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written by Ric, February 21, 2007
Caracas is 700 kilometers from Brazilian soil. Chavez owns a chain of gasoline staions in Brazil. I agree that he is too smart to invade Brazil but he has some influence. One can take a bus from Manaus to Caracas. The Venezuela-Brazil border is over 1250 kilometers long.
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written by A brazilian, February 22, 2007
As If the northern border were the center of power of Brazil.

thousands of kilometers away from Brazil = thousands of kilometers away from Brasilia and the southeast.
E é?
written by Ric, February 22, 2007
So, you would be willing to give up a few thousand square kilometers to the Venezuelans? Makes no difference to you? That southern Brazil "We are the people and with us all knowledge shall cease" attitude has found its finest expression in your attitudes.
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written by bo, February 23, 2007
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written by A brazilian, 2007-02-22 13:35:49

As If the northern border were the center of power of Brazil.

thousands of kilometers away from Brazil = thousands of kilometers away from Brasilia and the southeast.


WTF kind of statement is that?? You make statements like "we are all brazilians", then in the same breath talk about the north and the northeast of brazil like the bastard son.

Baghdad Bob, you seriously do have some issues. You're all confused.
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written by A brazilian, February 23, 2007
WTF kind of statement is that?? You make statements like "we are all brazilians", then in the same breath talk about the north and the northeast of brazil like the bastard son.


Don't make things up. Brasilia is the capital of the country, where the political power is, and the southeast id the financial center of the country. Where most of the companies are, and most of the population also. Who cares if Hugo Chavez is a few kilometers from the northern border, it's a different world there.
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written by A brazilian, February 23, 2007
So, you would be willing to give up a few thousand square kilometers to the Venezuelans?


Where did I say that? If they actually tried this then it would be a problem for the army to solve, what does it have to do with what was said?

That southern Brazil "We are the people and with us all knowledge shall cease" attitude has found its finest expression in your attitudes.


Well, we carry this country on our backs, don't we?
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written by bo, February 23, 2007
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written by A brazilian, 2007-02-23 10:01:00

WTF kind of statement is that?? You make statements like "we are all brazilians", then in the same breath talk about the north and the northeast of brazil like the bastard son.



Don't make things up. Brasilia is the capital of the country, where the political power is, and the southeast id the financial center of the country. Where most of the companies are, and most of the population also. Who cares if Hugo Chavez is a few kilometers from the northern border, it's a different world there.



You ignorant ass, someone stated that there is a HUGE brazilian border shared with Argentina, they are one of brazil's neighbors. But because its a long way from brasilia is that supposed to mean something?

I mean, Mexico is a helluva long way from washington dc, but it's adjoins texas, so should we just ignore things there? Have an attitude like, "hey, its a long way from new york and wash dc and the northeast of the country, so WTF.

You never continue to impress me with your blatent stupidity.
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written by bo, February 23, 2007
You never cease to impress me...
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written by A brazilian, February 23, 2007
But because its a long way from brasilia is that supposed to mean something?


Bo, maybe we are going too fast for you to keep up. What Susan said is that Chavez was a worry for investors, and I said his influence is nearly none and South America is huge.

This was the context, and in this context the fact that we don't see, hear or think about Venezuela matters.
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written by bo, February 24, 2007
This was the context, and in this context the fact that we don't see, hear or think about Venezuela matters.



YOU may not "think, hear, or see" Venezeula, but you can bet your ass your gov't. does, as well as investors, not only in brazil, but around the world, which is even more important.
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written by aesaac, February 24, 2007
WHISKY TANKGO FOXTROT: Invidious f**ks, sarcastic f**ktards (f**king regards). You are a hateful bunch. More interested in dumping s**t than any form of intellection. This is more of a Synanon Game than an intellectual symposium. You are a miserable bunch of lonely, bitter people. Who the f**k do you people think you are. Go f**k yourselves, you impotent c**cksuckers.

Chavez has already attacked Brazil through Brazilia, Brazil is surrounded by Mousalini, marching up Central America, Nicaragua, Mexico. . .Is Brazil going to allow itself to be f**ked in the ass by Chavez? Brazil is afraid of a strong military, it is afraid of justice, and law. Law equals dictatorship. . .more realistically law equals the disintegration of corruption. And so crime and corruption runs ramant in Brazil. It is Brazil that should be busting Chavez!s balls. It is Brazil that should be taking the lead over South America. . .but it is not conderned. . .it is an international and domestic policy of appesement. Apppeasement to corruption, crime, international intimidation. It seems the philosophy of Brazil is bend over and pass the soap.

Put the military on every corner, rout the favella, give the deed to the residents of the favella's. Honor, service country. Implement a Civil Conservation Core, invest in people and infrastructure. You can't take a train anywhere in this f**cking country. By now you should be able to drive to Minaus, regardless of the engineering challenges. . .f**k the English built a tunnel under the English Channel, America has gone to the Moon. . .Build a f**king road to Manaus, put in a Monorail, expand this f**king, chickensh**t backwater country and make it the Center of Poer of South America that it is.
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written by bo, February 24, 2007
You can't take a train anywhere in this f**cking country. By now you should be able to drive to Minaus, regardless of the engineering challenges. . .f**k the English built a tunnel under the English Channel, America has gone to the Moon. . .Build a f**king road to Manaus, put in a Monorail, expand this f**king, chickensh**t backwater country and make it the Center of Poer of South America that it is.



LOL.....Bra-ZIL-ZIL-ZIL!

Truly is the country of the future...and always will be.
Synanon
written by Ric, February 24, 2007
Synanon, I´d forgotten all about them, using a non-profit as a front for crime and subversion, I got a creepy feeling just driving by their camp up in back of Orange Cove, I think or Dunlap, east of Fresno. Didn´t know about their games, though, maybe 12 Steps to Ignominy. Thank God and Greyhound, You´re Gone.
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written by aesaac, February 24, 2007
You dumb f**k the Synanon Game is the foundation for all drug rehabilitation facilities from Phoenix House, to Betty Ford Clinic, all group encounter is based upon the Synanon Game. You are f**king clueless. Why don't you Google The Synanon Game and learn somethng beyond the stupidity of the wealth of knowledge that you now possess. The Synanon Game is a therapeutic device, designed to separate the bulls**t of your life and its shallow, loveless meaninglessness and return you to yourself before you achieved your f**ckedupedness. . . your intellectual vanity is the arrogance of your ignorance. . .
aesaac
written by A brazilian, February 24, 2007
What you wrote makes little sense at all. What a train to "Minaus" (I don't know where that is, if you mind telling us that would be good) has to do with anything? Is it evidence of development? Brazil has no extensive railroads simply because our government see no need for it. Many rails that used to be used as people's transportation in the recent past were closed. It's not expanding, it has been shrinking, but this is hardly evidence of anything.

Besides, people don't have the notion of space, especially Europeans. All of Europe would fit in Brazil due to the size, "Minaus" might not be right at the corner as it happens in Europe, where you walk a little and it's in another country. And Brazil has only 190 million people, with its size it could have many times that, it certainly has the space for it.

About engineering challenges, there are several examples of things English cannot do in Brazil (Petrobras extracting oil from deep sea?), I don't think you have a clue of what you are talking about. The rest is just name calling with a very flawed, illogical and ignorant text.

Are you competing with Bo?
aesaac 2
written by A brazilian, February 24, 2007
I used "Europe" above because you were referring to infrastructure of transportation, and I think they beat the US in that matter. So, I assumed you were using them as "an example".
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written by A brazilian, February 24, 2007
YOU may not "think, hear, or see" Venezeula, but you can bet your ass your gov't. does, as well as investors, not only in brazil, but around the world, which is even more important.


Not me, but international specialists. They haven't been advising against Brazil. They understand that Mexico and Brazil are one reality, and Venezuela is another.

The situation in Venezuela is much more complex than you make it appear. Chavez may be a lunatic, but the people there love him for a reason. You should try to understand what happened there (especially the attempt of certain taking over the power undemocratically, with US support) before making judgements.
Manaus and sarcasm being the lowest for of wit
written by aesaac, February 24, 2007
Manaus, the point is not the spelling of the irrelevent northern capital of a country that would fit into the United States. It was Eisenhower that developed the interstate network as a military solution, its consequence was the vast economic expansion of the U.S. and by consequence the destruction of the Americain railroad. Brazilians thnk small because they have no choice, unless they have money to fly. It is ironically a way of isolating and controlling the populice. Thee is no movement of people or ideas in Brazil except by 10%. There is no choice for the 'every man'. . .he is stuck to the same socio pathic inbreeding that produces favellas, and rank social indifference that produces bio toxic indifference in northern Rio.

The tirade of Anglo Saxon was a mirror to the sarcasm, vulgarity, and intellectual sophistry that posts here. Sententious, invidious bombast masquerading as thought.

Language is merely a tool and sarcasm is its lowest form of wit

aesaac
written by Ric, February 24, 2007
I think what you are referring to is that puns are the lowest form of wit, not sarcasm. Sarcasm is not really a form of wit, although it can be funny.

Synanon put rattlesnakes in a guy´s mailbox, got in trouble with the feds, and was shut down. I remember it because I was in the states at the time. Someone cares, check Synanon on Wikpedia. They had armed guards at the ranch, assault weapons and cameras way back in the late 70´s. I remember right where their HQ was in Santa Monica. Nice place. Turned into a cult. Hope the veneration of ch.c doesn´t end up the same way.
Ric and his ability to perceive and understand
written by aesaac, February 24, 2007
wit 1 (wt)
n.
1. The natural ability to perceive and understand; intelligence.
2.
a. Keenness and quickness of perception or discernment; ingenuity. Often used in the plural: living by one's wits.
b. wits Sound mental faculties; sanity: scared out of my wits.
3.
a. The ability to perceive and express in an ingeniously humorous manner the relationship between seemingly incongruous or disparate things.
b. One noted for this ability, especially one skilled in repartee.
c. A person of exceptional intelligence.
Idioms:
at (one's) wits' end
At the limit of one's mental resources; utterly at a loss.
have/keep (one's) wits about (one)
To remain alert or calm, especially in a crisis.

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[Middle English, from Old English; see weid- in Indo-European roots.]
Synonyms: wit1, humor, repartee, sarcasm, irony
These nouns denote forms of expression that elicit amusement or laughter. Wit implies intellectual keenness and the ability to perceive and express in a diverting way analogies between dissimilar things: "Wit has truth in it; wisecracking is simply calisthenics with words" Dorothy Parker.
Humor suggests the faculty of recognizing what is amusing, comical, incongruous, or absurd: "Man's sense of humor seems to be in inverse proportion to the gravity of his profession" Mary Roberts Rinehart.
Repartee implies a facility for answering swiftly and cleverly: "framing comments ... that would be sure to sting and yet leave no opening for repartee" H.G. Wells.
Sarcasm is a form of caustic wit intended to wound or ridicule another: "[His] tone seemed as if meant to be kind and soothing, but yet had a bitterness of sarcasm in it" Nathaniel Hawthorne.
I´m not surprised
written by Ric, February 24, 2007
To see you quote Mary Roberts Rinehart.

I appreciate the data. Thank you very much.

I find it very difficult to deal with sarcastic, cynical people who use hyperbole or irony. But that´s just me.
Philosophical Musings
written by aesaac, February 24, 2007
Philosophical musings


Wisdom is knowing what you do not know.

Just because I'm wrong doesn't make you right.

Spare me your insanity.

Wisdom has no sex.

Listen to what is being said, not how it is said.

If you are talking you are not listening.

Vanity is the arrogance of ignorance

Create meaning, do good.

Truth is not a matter of opinion.

There is a difference between listening and hearing.

If you expect nothing to happen, it probably will.

Feelings are not always valid.

If you practice failure you will probably become good at it.

The trouble with moderation is recognizing
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written by Ludwig Van Beethoven, February 24, 2007
Read the A brazilian and Ana P. comments is better than watch comedy central... hahaha, morons!!
aesaac
written by A brazilian, February 24, 2007
Thee is no movement of people or ideas in Brazil except by 10%.


This is strange, for example, in this forum we all live in different parts of Brazil or the world, how could an idea be contained? Besides, those that aren't on the internet can still go to other places through bus, plane, pau-de-arara, jangada (like some cearenses did in the 50s, hehe). Or even see or read news and ideas through TV or newspaper.

Again, how an idea could be contained?

You mean "fit into the US" by counting Alaska, a separate and underpopulated piece of the american territory? Without Alaska, that is, where most of the US is, Brazil is bigger.

And, finally, not sure what your point with transportation infrastructure is, since you give no real example or a context for it. Is it just saying "the US is better", simple chest beating? Please develop this idea better so we can understand what you mean. If all you are referring to is people going around, then there are roads for this purpose.
aesaac and his Philosophical Musings
written by A brazilian, February 24, 2007
Have you found a site full of wisdom? smilies/smiley.gif
Don´t insult aesaac, Abe
written by Ric, February 24, 2007
He´s a keeper. His posts are unlike anything seen before. An American Original."Thee is no movement of people or ideas in Brazil except by 10%." That could be the First Commandment in the new Religion of C.HC.

Right, aesaac. And Thou ain´t so hot, neither.
If you drove across the United States you might learn something, have an idea, make some money
written by aesaac, February 24, 2007
Brazil is ruled by the 10% that can afford a ticket to fly to Paris. The poor drive cars in the U.S. and flying to Europe is as common as black beans and rice.

An idea is made manifest by those who have the capital to do so. There is very little venture capital in Brazil. There is an infinitude of wealth in the United States, that is in constant motion, it is an entrapenureal society, whose Infrastructure has been a primary cause of the wealth of the United States. I would like to see Brazil find its economic self.

An idea unmanifested is contained, Bill Gates unmanifested is contained. The next great powers are China and India. What they lack is natural resources. Brazil will provide labor not intellect.

The cost of the movement of goods in Brazil is an impairment to the economic development of Brazil.

The last greatness of Brazil was Bossa Nova. I had to go to Paratay to hear it sung live.

A Brazilian
written by aesaac, February 25, 2007
Dont critize yourself leave it to others.

It is the nature of a man to promise a woman anything for her favors, it is the nature of a woman to belive him.

I am the site, the book is Tzadik.
easaac
written by A brazilian, February 25, 2007
Brazil is ruled by the 10% that can afford a ticket to fly to Paris.


How does that prevent the circulation of ideas? I am far from being part of the 10% and I can afford travelling. Besides, we live in a time where someone writes something in China, 5 minutes later someone reads it in Africa, and someone criticizes it in Europe. Things go as fast as the speed of thought. We know what happens around the world instantly. Ideas cannot be contained. Not here, not anywhere else.

This is just the digital means, but th