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Snubbing Chavez and Seducing Brazil Are Two Sides of Same Bush Game PDF Print E-mail
2007 - March 2007
Written by Raúl Zibechi   
Thursday, 08 March 2007 17:50

American President George W. Bush and the first lady arrive in BrazilGeorge W. Bush's trip to Latin America this month is the most ambitious attempt to reposition the United States in the region since the Free Trade Agreement of the Americas died in Mar del Plata in November of 2005. The trip, which includes Brazil, Uruguay, Mexico, Guatemala, and Colombia has a dual purpose: to counteract the growing influence of Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez in the region and to form a strategic alliance with Brazil for the production of ethanol. Although it may not appear on the surface, the two objectives are profoundly related.

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written by bo, March 09, 2007
http://www.globo.com/


Go to the above url, click on the photo of the half naked chick protesting against bush. Go through the photos, you'll see A brazilian and his clown buddies, they're the ones with the one idiot kid who's holding a sign, "A amazona é nossa".

LOL....I have to laugh when I see this s**t about the amazon. You wanna talk about left-wing propaganda horses**t!

The amazon is brazil's?? Really? We thought is was another state we annexed! smilies/cheesy.gif
Bush in Brazil
written by PPLL, March 09, 2007
Only 6,000 protesters in a city of 21 million?? How pathetic and typically Brazilian. While Bush is in Brazil to take advantage of an unfair trade deal for ethanol that both he and Lula need, the poor and disadvantaged stand by and do nothing while the rich elite are the ones who stand to benefit from an increase in ethanol exports, both in the US (ADM the Haliburton of the Ag industry) and Brazil..

Bush is down in Brazil with the check book for only one reason, to try and counter Chavez...and Lula stands with his hand out like a beggar on the corner in Zona Sul. What do they say? You can take the boy out of the favela....but....

No Lula is taking a dangerous chance going to Camp David (I hope he does not wear his sunga at the swimming pool) and pissing off Chavez and Kirschner , Mercesur is still the most important trade deal, and Chavez is crazy enough to make a big deal from Lula's visit (I heard he sent Lula some sulfur).

Still, if Bush can pull it of and Brazil and the US can come to some of kind trade agreement perhaps Chavez can be some what neutralized, a good thing for both the US and Brazil. Chavez is getting all the attention, it's important to remember that the GDP of the State of Rio is more than all of Venezuela's.
Partly True
written by Ric, March 09, 2007
Not all of the Amazon is in Brazil. It would make flying safer if it were all made into a huge parking lot. I have thought about that a number of times while flying over it.
Ric
written by A brazilian, March 09, 2007
Don't be a liar. Brazil's accidents is lower than the international average.
Oh, Is They?
written by Ric, March 10, 2007
I think you´re probably right, but if you will re-read my post carefully you may notice that I made no comment as to accident statistics. Grab that knee, it´s jerking.
Yankees Go Home
written by Costinha, March 10, 2007
We don't like you... Go home smelly cowboys!

Besides, been close to the usa nowadays, it's pure liability.
Bad propaganda...from the social movement leader...who wrote such stupidity !!!!!
written by ch.c.., March 10, 2007
Snubbing Chavez ????????

Why would Bush snub Chavez, just as why Chavez would snub Bush ! Thes are not friend, simple as that !!!!!!

But quite laughable that Venezuela has a currency that dropped over 50 % in the last 3 years...against the US$, itself already a weak currency !!! Truly unique, showing the total incompetence of Chavez the Monkey !
- How can such a country have so much oil and gas reserves and have a reduction in oil output for the last several years ????????
- How can such a country with so much wealth....in the ground...where you just press a button to activate a foreign pump....and wealth flow and at the same time have so much....POVERTY ?????
- How can Chavez be so proud of his achievements, when NOT ONE of his citizens and not even his lieutenants, want their own currency because they have no trust in it ??????

. In my view Chavez just had some luck that not him but the world economic recovery...needed so much oil ! But that doesnt make him smart or smarter in any way ! A country that cannot even feed its own citizens...is a thirld world country. They are just unable to produce something except oil !!!!! Poor Chavez, he is a born loser and has not realize it yet !!!!!
Ric
written by A brazilian, March 10, 2007
I think you´re probably right, but if you will re-read my post carefully you may notice that I made no comment as to accident statistics.


If Brazil has less accidents than the US than it means that it less safe there than here. Simple. If you are complaining about safety here you should be complainig about it there.
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written by bo, March 10, 2007
written by A brazilian, 2007-03-09 21:03:09
If Brazil has less accidents than the US than it means that it less safe there than here. Simple. If you are complaining about safety here you should be complainig about it there.



No dickhead, it's not "simple" as that.

Don't ya think something such as "number of flights" in each country are considered when evaluating how "safe" it is to fly in a particular area?

I'd love to know the number of flights that exist in Brazil, and the U.S. on a daily basis. I'd be willing to wager that the U.S. has a minimum of 50X more the number of flights.
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written by A brazilian, March 10, 2007
Don't ya think something such as "number of flights" in each country are considered when evaluating how "safe" it is to fly in a particular area


When you speal of "average" then you are considering the number of flights. Yes, Brazil is more safe to fly than US.
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written by bo, March 10, 2007
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written by A brazilian, 2007-03-10 15:27:57

Don't ya think something such as "number of flights" in each country are considered when evaluating how "safe" it is to fly in a particular area



When you speal of "average" then you are considering the number of flights. Yes, Brazil is more safe to fly than US.



Can you show us something more substantial than just flapping your yap?

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written by garry minor, March 11, 2007
As an American please, please let me apologize. We are not all materialistic, earth destroying savages. I am so sorry for what this President has done to our world in so many way's. Not only does he spread violence oversea's, he has abandoned his own Nation. The people have become pawns. It is beyond belief. However, the Truth of kaneh bosm, Cannabis and Christ has arrived. Cannabis hemp industrialization will save this Earth. It is the only thing that can save this Earth. Food, fuel, shelter, medicine, pleasure, spirituality, unity, harmony!
Hemp kicks sugar canes ass for fuel !!!!!!! The seed is the most nutritious thing you can eat! All plastics, paper, paints, varnishes, and most building materials can be made with kaneh! In all over 25,000 known products can be made using it! You have cannabinoid receptors in your body! But best, God instructed Moses to use 250 shekels of kaneh bosm in the oil used to anoint all Kings, Priests, and Prophets, including Jesus! Really!
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written by bo, March 11, 2007
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written by garry minor, 2007-03-10 23:12:58



thanks for that gary. Now pack the bong!
BO (BÃO)
written by Costinha, March 11, 2007
I Typed "Cyber Sex Whore" Into A Search Engine And Your Name Came Up!

Please explain...
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written by A brazilian, March 12, 2007
Can you show us something more substantial than just flapping your yap?


Do you know what "average" is?
Costa
written by Ric, March 12, 2007
You don´t know diddley about Bo.
Abe
written by Ric, March 12, 2007
Please don´t continue to misconstrue my comment. I was talking about flying my own planes over the jungle, not airliners. And please don´t take this wrong, but you can be so dense, Abe.
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written by A Brazilian-born American, March 13, 2007
I dont know about Brazil but
there are, in average, 4,000 commercial
aircrafts flying in the US airspace at any given time.

http://flightaware.com/analysis/map_day.rvt
Stats
written by Ric, March 13, 2007
We know that there are 61 turboprop airliners and 203 jet airliners registered in Brazil, 264 total, according to the Avião Revue Magazine of January, 2007.

Statistics on the US fleet are a little hard to decipher but it looks like turboprop and jet airliners in the states now total 8,246. At any given time 11% are parked in storage, about the same percentage as all over the world.
did you know?
written by atown in sampa, March 15, 2007
ethanol is not the answer folks. did you know it takes 3 liters of water to produce one liter of ethanol in brasil? ever been to the amazon? now imagine it dry as a bone. brasil can not afford to start exporting this stuff to the states. the global impact is going to be devastating. why dont we invest hard money into hydrogen or other ideas? combustible engine has got to go the way of the dodo.
atown in sampa
written by A brazilian, March 15, 2007
Do you have something to sell us? It sounded a lot like a salesman.
Ethanol
written by Ric, March 15, 2007
Is not a permanent solution. Maybe in the states there is so much corn that they were looking for ways to use it. But in a pure market situation, ethanol would not be viable here in Brazil either. If the taxes were the same as for gasoline, if the workers were getting their legal benefits.

Another thing that doesn´t make sense to me is ratcheting up the use of natural gas, with few national sources. The whole world is edging towards a gas crisis anyway, with fields far from markets and delivery difficult except for pipelines. Save the natural gas for fertilizer manufacture. Without natural gas, we starve.
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written by bo, March 15, 2007
Stats
written by Ric, 2007-03-12 22:56:26

We know that there are 61 turboprop airliners and 203 jet airliners registered in Brazil, 264 total, according to the Avião Revue Magazine of January, 2007.

Statistics on the US fleet are a little hard to decipher but it looks like turboprop and jet airliners in the states now total 8,246. At any given time 11% are parked in storage, about the same percentage as all over the world.



35X the number of planes in the U.S. than in brazil, figured it was something like that. Just like a friend of mine who always states that the number of people that die in traffic accidents in the states and brazil are virtually the same, around 40,000 per year. There's a heck of a lot more that needs to be taken into consideration than just the overall number of deaths if trying to decide which place is "safer".
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written by Ric, March 16, 2007
Traffic stats have improved somewhat in Brazil, but several years ago one had eight times more likelihood of dying in a traffic accident in Brazil than in the states, per km percorrido.

Used to be the traffic deaths in the states were about 50,000 a year, comparable with total number of US troops killed in the Viet Nam war.

Of course, the number of cars in circulation in the states is many, many times that of Brazil. If the totals are similar, the increased risk is obvious.

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