Brazzil

Hi Joe; Your right to cut now as your well spoken words just fall on deaf ears here. Richard should get a medal for sure. And as you say, the story is not finished yet by a long shot. Best wishes RW

"I want no medals. They gave me one in Vietnam."

Burn many hootches to get it?

Shame on you, Omar. It was for bombing the f@ck out of North Vietnamese villages from 20,000 feet. the guy's airforce, ain't he?

veja eh direitista

Mr. Sharkey I hope you get imortalized by your patriotic (and compassionate) gesture just as David Halberstam as a young reporter at New York Times did. His The Best and the Brightest is a no brainer book you should consider to read on your Vietnam adventure.

History never looks like history when you are living through it.

on deaf ears your words fell,

to blind eyes your words were written

to a closed mind your thoughts were given

as the raven calls never more never more

this page in your life closes as the door on your airplane

dont feel bad as you did what was right

not many this day and age can say this

live well be happy

Not sure why this article was found worth publishing.

Never having read any of Sharkeys articles I can´t comment on the honesty of his reporting.

It was my understanding that vital communication equipment was switched off in the plane of the American pilot. If this is the case, there is clear fault with the pilot.

I don´t know what the families of the victims are seeking as redress for their suffering, perhaps it is justice in terms of punishment for the pilot and if this is not possible then I presume they will follow the american way....$$$$$

From what I gather, there's enough shame and blame to spread around evenly on all sides.

Brazilian patriots try to make it seem like it was all the damned gringos fault. Meanwhile, American patriots like Mr. Sharkey generally rely on anti-third world prejudice to make their points.

For what it's worth, proximate guilt for the crash almost certainly lies with Brazil's air traffic control system, at least as far as I can figure (having read all I can on the topic - including Sharkey's articles). But the American pilots involved and CERTAINLY their reps in the U.S. government haven't acted responsibly. It's just blind luck, from their point of view, that things have turned out the way they did. Both the pilots and Condoleeza Rice were damning the Brazilian government in no uncertain terms about how it "blew its responsabilities" on this issue WEEKS before any substantial proof was found. Weeks, in fact, before the plane's black box was found, let alone analyzed. Their orientating principle seems to have been "We are American and thus can do no wrong. Let no thrid world monkeys tell you differently."

So it's understandable that those of us who do not feel that this thing should be treated like a World Cup match are, in fact, disgusted with both governments: Brazil for trying to cover up and shift blame, the U.S. for attributing blame based on prejudice before any substantive results even came in. Both governments have shown themselves to be completely untrustworthy and more than willing to bend facts for ideological reasons whenever it suits them.

So, frankly, patriots from both sides of the issue can go piss up a long, tight rope for all that I care.

Yes, I think you said it all. I think what pissed off the people in Brazil the most was the automatic "anti-third world" garbage thrown out in the media, especially by Mr Sharkey, about the situation. There were no evidences whatsoever, but they thought it was ok to spread all kinds of rumours as how the brazilians were lying. If it wasn't by Mr Sharkey's arrogance perhaps there wouldn't be that much controversy.

I must disagree with him about his conduct in reporting the facts. It wasn't the truth most of the time, especially in the beginning, but what he wanted it to be, simply because it was unconceivable to his patriotic mind that Americans would commit a mistake and third would monkeys would be able to judge them. There were even insinuations of "torture" and mistreatment when, in fact, the pilots were in a 5 stars hotel all the time.

On a second thought, all this noise about such thing serves him well as self-promotion. Perhaps he saw the opportunity to add something to his career?

"Yes, I think you said it all. I think what pissed off the people in Brazil the most was the automatic "anti-third world" garbage thrown out in the media"........!!and I think what pissed us americans off here in Brazil, as we didnt hear any fair and balanced reporting in Brazil, were the stories full of crazy lies and speculation against the american pilots. I dont know what media your talking about but CNN, BBC and FOX were not throwing out 3rd world garbage. so frankly......piss on your story about media being unfair to Brazilians, its plainly untrue...

"Yes, I think you said it all. I think what pissed off the people in Brazil the most was the automatic "anti-third world" garbage thrown out in the media"........!! I dont know what media your talking about

how bout nyt, salon, etc etc etc...

"Fair" brazilian justice as if PF, brazilian federal police and brazilian courts are not easily sell outs of Amerikkan dollars, still brazil's media covers the inefficiency and shows some thruth. Better than being prohibited by the government of disclosing soldiers dead, coffins, war disabled, etc. Sai do Brasil gringo fedido!

piss on your story about media being unfair to Brazilians, its plainly untrue...

Not really, I think Sharkey gave and interview to some american TV, not sure if it was CNN, saying that the pilots were "in danger", insinuating that they could be killed or tortured. There were other statements from the American Pilots Association (is this the name?) saying that pilots shouldn't go to Brazil because Brazilians might decide to put them in jail (the pilots were in a 5 star hotel and they knew it, but even so they said "jail"), before any evidence in favor or against the pilots was released. Since day one the noise generated around this issue was ridiculously disproportionate.

I think it was clear from the beginning that they, at least Sharkey and that Association, wanted to make some pressure in order to release the pilots before any conclusion could be reached.

As you can see by his text Joe Sharkey sees himself as some sort of "hero". Strange people.

One poster writes "there was blame to go around", but the Brazilian government and Brazilians themselves immediatly targeted the American pilots. It is cultural, Brazilians will never recognize their inadaqecies and impotence, it is their way and their shame. If you know Brazil, who would you really side with? Unfortunatly, for myeit is the case "of the boy that cried wolf", we all know that the air traffic control system, it's employees and Brazilian Aviation in general is that of any third world country, why would we not think that errors made by the Brazilian system led to the deaths of over a hundred of their country men, women and children. It is so easy to point fingers, Brazilians always take that easy way out, quickley handing out blame to deflect the truth. I commend the author and have no reason to doubt his reporting, what agenda would he have other than telling "the other side of the story"? Now we can examine both sides of the story, although I still think the Brazilian Aviation Authorities are covering up information to keep their obscene retirements, if you have half a brain and really analyze what happened, who do you really think should bear the burden of blame here? Two American pilots doing their job, or a defunct ATC system whose employees were asleep at the wheel? I hope the American pilots to not go back to stand trial, the will be persecuted by a corrupt justice system that lets criminal officals operate with impunity.

If you know Brazil, who would you really side with?

I think your post was just a confirmation of what Macunaima said:

Meanwhile, American patriots like Mr. Sharkey generally rely on anti-third world prejudice to make their points.

Prejudice and prejudice only. Without any data or information you feel free to make affirmations you can't prove, always counting with the common knowledge, at least among some Americans, that "they can't do anything right".

"Prejudice and prejudice only. Without any data or information you feel free to make affirmations you can't prove, always counting with the common knowledge, at least among some Americans, that "they can't do anything right". "

You pretty much got that one right Abe.

Gty sez:
One poster writes "there was blame to go around", but the Brazilian government and Brazilians themselves immediatly targeted the American pilots. It is cultural, Brazilians will never recognize their inadaqecies and impotence, it is their way and their shame. If you know Brazil, who would you really side with?

...Thus providing me with an excellent example of the World Cup attitude I wrote about above. Cut out "Brazil" from that phrase and slip in "America" and it makes just as much sense to Brazilian patriots as the original does to American patriots.

Both arguments are based on prejudice, ignorance and the idea that if the one country's government can be shown to be irresponsible devils, then the other country MUST be on the side of the angels.

As for "Brazilians never recognizing inadequacies and impotence", this is indeed true. But tell me, Gty, can the citizens of a country (the US) which is involved in its FOURTH go nowhere war in the last 100 years, which has repeatedly lied to iteself and to the world about why its fighting and what its capabilities to resolve said fighting, REALLY lecture Brazilians on taking public responsability for their impotence and inadequacies?

Please...

Methinks you need to talk to your family doctor about some little blue pills, son. Your personal health problems are beginning to affect your political analysis of the world.

"As for "Brazilians never recognizing inadequacies and impotence", this is indeed true. But tell me, Gty, can the citizens of a country (the US) which is involved in its FOURTH go nowhere war in the last 100 years, which has repeatedly lied to iteself and to the world about why its fighting and what its capabilities to resolve said fighting, REALLY lecture Brazilians on taking public responsability for their impotence and inadequacies? "

You won't have any argument from me here , I am not sure where you get the "fourth go nowhere war" though. But I am not a supporter of this President or his war, the Administration has lied repeatadly and has damaged our rep**ation and reduced our global influence, no nation is exempt from her mistakes and tragadies. I make no excuses for our conduct.

But the article was not about our war..it was about the plane crash tragedy and the fiasco around it, nothing about the poor families who have suffered.

As for blue pills...not yet needed. Do you think my Brazilian wife would stick around. The most important thing in life to a Brazilian women is a good hard dick.

I am not sure where you get the "fourth go nowhere war"

Phillipines, Korea, Vietnam and now Iraq. And hell, that's not even counting cheerful little U.S. song-and-dance routines like the TWO wars in Nicaragua (one in the early 20th century, one in the latter part) and the many inteventions in the Carribean and elsewhere where the U.S. has shown one and all its potency at nation-building and its adequacy in spreading Democracy.

[i}The most important thing in life to a Brazilian women is a good hard dick.

If you picked your wife up in front of Help, I suppose that's true. But most Brazilian women I know - including the two I've married and the several dozen I've dated in 20 years of living here - are like most other people I know the world over, men or women: they have a HELL of a lot of other things on their minds than sex.

But thank you for giving us yet another instance of American charm, perception and wit, C. I'm sure the many Brazilians reading this will be much more impressed by the U.S. and Americans now that they've heard your refeshingly objective, informed and balanced view of Brazilian women.

macunaima said it all.

But most Brazilian women I know - including the two I've married and the several dozen I've dated in 20 years of living here

Quite an accomplishment, mate, to have married two women and dated several dozens in the short span of 20 years of living in Brazil. I hope you are not paying hefty alimony to the women you married.

- are like most other people I know the world over, men or women: they have a HELL of a lot of other things on their minds than sex.

You are absolutely correct.

I'm sure the many Brazilians reading this will be much more impressed by the U.S. and Americans now that they've heard your refeshingly objective, informed and balanced view of Brazilian women.

Many Brazilians will certainly not get impressed, but upset with his views on Brazilian women.My only hope is that his Brazilian wife doesnt get to read his comments decides to chopp off his pecker. In case you dont know,GTY is married to his wife for over 20 years and he adores her and his Brazilian family.

BTW, I enjoyed reading your first comment about this article and I would rather wait till the final report comes out without indulging in Blame Games. This way, we will be respecting the souls of those 154 that perished in the accident.

Thnak you

João sez:
Quite an accomplishment, mate, to have married two women and dated several dozens in the short span of 20 years of living in Brazil. I hope you are not paying hefty alimony to the women you married.
Considering that my ex is a professional making as much cash as I do, no, I pay no alimony. As for having two wives - one current and one ex - in twenty years and having dated dozens of women... For twelve of those twenty years I was single. Two dates a year runs into "dozens" over that time period. I find it hard to believe that you think that this record is some sort of unusual "accomplishment". Most people I know would find it par for the course, João.

Many Brazilians will certainly not get impressed, but upset with his views on Brazilian women.

Sigh. I guess Ziraldo is right: we really need an icon which signifies irony. I, too, wonder if Gty has enough guts to tell his wife that he believes that she considers his dick to be the most important part of their relationship.

...er, make that sarcasm and not irony. We need icons for both.

I, too, wonder if Gty has enough guts to tell his wife that he believes that she considers his dick to be the most important part of their relationship.

Macunaima-san, why dont you ask GTY,yourself? Probably he asks his wife´s permission before posting his comments! That guy doent even realize that she holds his balls in her hands.

Ok, I accept your expalanation about your not paying alimony to your ex and having so many girfriends between the first separation and re marrying. I hope you are not having girl friends.If you are,you may end up Dickless.GTY know this fact and that is the reason why his marraige is going steady and well.Our Brazilian ladies are wonderful and great.Make no mistake about it.

First, I admire your accomplishments with two wives and hundreds of women, you must be some stud. Second you must enjoy driving a Honda Fit, as most "professional women" especially the ones in front of "Help" make little indeed in Brazil, are you making one salary...or two. Perhaps your first wife left you because you were not able to provide for her? I don't know...just speculation. So you Mac are Carioca, the dumbest bunch of the lot, thank God for Paulistas, at least you can have an intelligent conversation regarding business with one. I'll bet you can be found 12 hours a day at Posto 9 kicking around a football with the rest of the over 40 bunch living off their parents money.

By the way...I'll give you Vietnam and I don't remember fighting a war with the Philipines, I do know we drove the Japanese out. There has been peace on the Korean penensula since the DMZ was created, South Korea enjoys a buzzing economy, one much better than yours and the North continues in squallar, so there were success. You also forgot our action in Panama, which by the way I was proud to be a part of, I was also part of the Granada invasion, you should have seen how fast the Cubans put up white flags. Nicaragua was part of the Cold War, which by the way in every analysis was won by us. Ortega is back, but what a good boy he is now, no Chavez in him, just wants better trade relation with the US. In fact so many US retirees there, he needs those dollars as well. It is a safe country, something you can't say about Brazil...great fishing and surfing too!

I would be proud for my dick to be your icon. You are incorrect though, my wife frequently tells me that my dick is the most important part of our relationship, that and the 06 745i she drives.

Your ATC system is a joke, your aviation authorites are liars and boobs and your people, because of their hate for the American people were quick to blame 2 blameless American pilots. Do you think if they had any proof those pilots would be here in the US? Your defense of the indefensable is comic.

http://www.estadao.com.br/ulti...20/197.htm

An interesting article about the accident of GOL.

Hey...where is Bo, have not heard from him for a while. I hope he did not meet with the same fate as his friend that was shot.

Hey...where is Bo, have not heard from him for a while. I hope he did not meet with the same fate as his friend that was shot.

I dont think that he met the same fate.Remember he mentioned that he was going to the States in June? Probably he is already there spending quality time and giving company to his Mom and the family. AES also disappeared-probably in U.S. also. As for the Prof, he must be fine tuning his plans to visit Portugual.

Glad that you are giving us company .Keep up the good work.

Check out this link...what the hell is your military doing??

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070620/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/brazil_violence_1;_ylt=AvN.xEo2Bv7dSv2OrfNwbXBP_8wA

Check out this link...what the hell is your military doing??

Checked out the link.A good question.

GTY sez...

First, I admire your accomplishments with two wives and hundreds of women, you must be some stud.

Like I said, 2 wives in 20 years and a couple dozen girlfriends in a dozen years of being single does not a stud make. That's NORMAL in my book. I find it sad that you think it's excessive, GTY. And you know what else, GTY? I didn't have to bribe any of them with a 06 745i to get them to sleep with me. But I guess when one is an ugly motherf**ker with the personality of a pitbull, money will just have to do.

I don't drive and, frankly, most of the girls out in front of Help make quite a lot of cash, relatively speaking. Certainly more than me or most Brazilians, that's for sure. My first wife and I disagreed about a lot of things, cash among them. But our final split had far more to do with just general, rundown, irreparable relationships than money or anything else for that matter. But you're damned right about one thing: I do not consider it my role on this planet to "provide for" any adult woman who's quite capable of working for herself. I'm interested in partnerships, not prostitution, which is what you're "providing for" is all about when it comes right down to it. I don't date women who feel that I must be their sugar daddy. I'm not even interested in them. That is one of the reasons why -even though I've had as many fights with women as any other guy - I have never lost my economic shirt to them. You marry a girl who sees you as her meal ticket and you get exactly what you deserve.

I'll bet you can be found 12 hours a day at Posto 9 kicking around a football with the rest of the over 40 bunch living off their parents money.

I've lived for about 10 years in Rio and 10 in SP and haven't seen any notable difference in the intelligence levels of either population, but I am aware that it is a typical prejudice to believe such a thing exists among the more ignorant sort of gringo who's bopping around out there. And I only WISH I could hang out at Posto 9 all day. I work about 60 hours a week. But hey: when I DO get off, I CAN go to the beach, então morra de inveja, seu paulista postíço.

By the way...I'll give you Vietnam and I don't remember fighting a war with the Philipines, I do know we drove the Japanese out.

Sad, isn't it, how Americans are ignorant of their own history? Look up the American occupation of the Phillipines after the Spanish-American War and get back to me. You guys STILL have troops over their chasing guerrilhas to this very day. Here's a wikipedia link for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillipine_War

250,000-1,000,000 Philipino dead and about 5000 dead Yanks to no useful purpose. And guys like you don't even know this war existed because it doesn't show up on the History Channel. Sad.

There has been peace on the Korean penensula since the DMZ was created.
All of which could have happened 3 years and several 100,000 casualties earlier if the U.S. hadn't gotten frisky and decided to invade the North, thus bringing China into the war and unnecessarily prolonging affairs and suffering. Pretty f**king useless if you ask me, but then again, you're obviously a flag-waving "the U.S. can do no wrong" type.

You also forgot our action in Panama, which by the way I was proud to be a part of, I was also part of the Granada invasion, you should have seen how fast the Cubans put up white flags.

Oh, wow! Granada and Panama! Now THOSE were wars. Gee, did you get to cluster-bomb any schools, Gty, or did you just have to content yourself with bombing Panama City favelas and imagining the devastation you caused to the civilians below? Get any purple hearts for hang nails while you were over there, hero? And maybe - since you seem to be an authority on American history - you can explain to me who put Manuel Noriega into power in the first place and kept him on the CIA payroll while he was there? The Soviet Union, perhaps? If you're proud of your personal involvement in that sort of thing, all I can say is that you have very low standards, indeed. The typical carioca dono do morro has more ethics than that.

Nicaragua was part of the Cold War, which by the way in every analysis was won by us.

Explain to me, exactly, how the contras contributed to the Soviet economic collapse. And what does who "won" have to do with whether something is morally correct or not? By that sort of reasoning, the only thing wrong with Adolph Hitler was that he LOST. That's the kind of thinking I'd expect from a common thug, not a professional military man. But then again, what kind of guy would proudly thump his chest over "victories" in Granada and Pananam EXCEPT a common thug?

It is a safe country, something you can't say about Brazil...great fishing and surfing too!

So move there. And don't let the door slam your ass on the way out.

You are incorrect though, my wife frequently tells me that my dick is the most important part of our relationship, that and the 06 745i she drives.

I gotta hand it to you, Gty: not many men have the guts (or the stupidity) to publicly admit that their wife is a gold-digging whore, but you're the exception. How much does your trophy cost you each year and is she tax-deductible as a business expense? Maybe you should upgrade to a Russian mail-order bride? Spoils of the Cold War and Russia's "booming" economy, hmmm....?

Your ATC system is a joke, your aviation authorites are liars and boobs and your people, because of their hate for the American people were quick to blame 2 blameless American pilots. Do you think if they had any proof those pilots would be here in the US? Your defense of the indefensable is comic.

Not my ATC system, authorities, or people, Monkey Boy. And who the f**k is defending Brazil? Maybe with that remedial history course, you should also invest in basic reading comprehension, too.

As for blue pills...not yet needed. Do you think my Brazilian wife would stick around. The most important thing in life to a Brazilian women is a good hard dick.

No, GTY, you're wrong. As they say here in Brasil," Faggots like dicks. Women likes money.
But that's your case too, anyway.

Thanks, you make my point exactly, we prefer to take care of or women, thus they hang around, Brazilians, like in your case, prefer someone take care of them, or they take care of only themselves. It is unfortunate that you can not provide your women with the things they need. The fundemental diference is that you live in a third world socialist country, I live in a Imperialistic, capitalistic country...and I enjoy every day of it, so does my Brazilian wife. As are the many Brazilian women that I know married to Gringo's. Do you think they would prefer to live in a Brazilian city, dodging stray bullets and being with men who have to walk and work 60 hours a week to make $R3,000 a month? No apoligies from me, my Carioca friend.

I have spent much more time in your country than most "ignorant Gringos" both on business and pleasure, last year at least 2 months over several trips. My customers are multi-national pharma companies mostly in Sao Paulo, but it do see Sanofi and Bayer in Rio...I can tell you, there is a big "brain power" difference between Carioca's and Paulista's, Caricoa men are morons, however your women are pretty smart.

I was not bragging about Panama or Grenada, it was just my timing, in our military you go where you go when you are called, in yours you desert or run from the Drug Lords who have taken over the favelas. Prefering firefights across miles of urban roads and barios, killing innocent men, women and children in the crossfire instead of going up on the hill and having the balls to fight the battle to win...in other words, your military is and always will be cowardly.

I don't think I called your wife a "whore" but it's easy to say anything on a blog, I am sure you are the typical Carioca man, about 5 foot 5, 150lbs and huge pussy, I wish you were here to call my wife a whore in front of me, my friends could laugh and drink beer while they watched me beat you to a pulp. I have seen so many Brazilian men back down from a confrontation it makes me want to puke. In fact, I saw a British guy in a bar in Lapa kick three guys asses while the rest of his friends ran away, a culture of mommies boys..you all make me sick. Prentendin to be men when you are all little boys no matter what your ages.

Live an die in Rio...what a waste of a life.

OOOOh HOOO! Check out Gty! He hates "cariocas who live on daddy's money", but when it comes to the lil' birdie who's swabbing his pole, why then paying someone else's way in the mean old world is just fine!

Hey Gty, tell us: why is it bad to live off of Daddy but OK to live off of a Sugar Daddy, like yourself?

I wish you were here to call my wife a whore in front of me, my friends could laugh and drink beer while they watched me beat you to a pulp.

I just love these guys who drive jags, have 20 inch dicks and are willing to beat anyone to a pulp on the internet. Wanna see what Gty's world probably looks like in real life? Take a gander here...

http://www.whitetrashworld.com/plogger/

As a Brazilian woman, I can say that a woman who is with a man because of the gifts he gives her and who tells him what a nice dick he has so he thinks he's a big guy and give her more money, that kind of woman, in Brazil, is called a piranha. Many gringos marry them because they think all women and mainly all Brazilian women are whores in the first place, so they can't tell the difference between a woman from a good family and prostitute. It looks like gty is one of these kinds of gringo.

Live an die in Rio

You writing a book under this title,just to prove that you are the modern day version of Ian Flemming who wrote "Live and Let Die"?

I don't think I called your wife a "whore"

Why would you? She makes her own way in life, without needing to suck some guy's c**k to earn her daily bread.

As for your wife, Bubba, don't get offended: I just call 'em like I see 'em. The idea that she's with you because of your dick is a charming conceit, but we all know that's not true: women can get dick anywhere, anytime, and probably of a much better quality that your Mr. Droopy. Your admit that "wife" (cof, cof) strokes your ego about your dick and she's with you because of the car you gave her... Well, hell, Bubba, back where I grew up, we got a name for that kind of woman. As Aninha pointed out, Brazilians ALSO have a name for that kind of woman. If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck and f**ks like a duck...

I see know reason for you to get your mantitties in a twister, Gty. After all, it was YOU who told us all that the expensive gifts you give your wife are the reason she's with you. I show you a shoe and you, sweet little Cinderella that you are, confirm to one and all that it's a precise fit for your little tootsies and now you're upset that everyone's drawn the obvious conclusion? Please.

But don't get me wrong: I'm impressed with Mrs. Gty's moves. It's not every working girl that kind find a big 'ol fat banana like you (and note that I ain't refering to Mr. Droopy in your shorts, there). She may have a whore's heart, but she's certainly got the smarts where it counts. I'm rooting for her! I hope she manages to get all that she can out of you. No condemnation here at all.

I just find it hilarious that you think being a Papai Noel is something to be proud of.

Prefering firefights across miles of urban roads and barios, killing innocent men, women and children in the crossfire instead of going up on the hill and having the balls to fight the battle to win...in other words, your military is and always will be cowardly.

This, from a man who thinks that Panama and Granada were courageous and noteworthy military actions? Please... And once again, not my military, Monkey Boy.

I wish you were here to call my wife a whore in front of me, my friends could laugh and drink beer while they watched me beat you to a pulp.

Help! I'm being threatened on the internet by fat yankee s**tbird! Oh, my! Whatever shall I do?

I'm not hard to find, Gty. You get on the carioca metro north line to Engenho da Rainha station. Get off and ask directions to the "complexo do alemow". Once you find the place, ask to be taken to see the "dono da boca". You can challenge me to a fight as soon as you get there and all your mates can come along and watch. I'll be waiting for you, Bubba. Don't wuss out on me now.

Pussy Burro, typical f**kin Carioca, what pieces of s**t you all are, no wonder you are all so jealous of the Gringos (although I am Hispanic and will kick you in the head once I have knocked you down, we are known for that you know) who steal your women, money and laugh the entire time. Why do you think there are a zillion Brazilian women living in South Florida, because you poor excuses for men can't keep em happy...they come here for a decent life, where their kids can get a good education and have an opportunity to make something of themselves besides selling Skol and Globos on the beach. Or better yet, juggeling tennis balls on the corner of Joana Angelica and Baro de Torre.

I'm typical, won't hide it, like to brag about it, big boat, nice cars, big home (I do hire illegal Brazilians to clean it and cut the grass, might be one of your cousins), hard dick and lots of $$$ in the bank. I don't have to apoligize to anyone. I'll teach my kids to watch out for pussys like you and to be American's and not Brazilian's. And...when I am sitting around my pool this Saturday, with all my wifes' hot young friends, I won't think a minute about the pathetic 60 hour work week life you live in Favela Alemow. Now, Aninha, if you would like to come by with a filo dental, you are more than welcome. You would if you could, don't lie to yourself, unless you are one of the fat Brazilian women for Valaderes, then you can clean my toleits, I pay US100.00 twice a week to my current Brazilian maid, but if you would do it for $99...I'll give you the job. I'll hire your kid to wash my Hummer.

So when I am out on my Contender on Sunday, making the trip to Bimini with my hot (and topless) young Brazilian wife that is spoiled rotten and loves it. I will agonize about all the s**t you all blog...while I drink my first Bloody Mary of the day.

Paz

LoL.

You are too much of a characiture to be for real, Gty. I just figured it out.

You had me going there for awhile, though, I'll admit.

I'm for real, you just wanna be me.

while I drink my first Bloody Mary of the day.

Dont forget to have a Screw Driver too. bty, does the tomato juice in your Bloody Mary come from Brazil or you prefer to use the domestic produze?

And remember to let your wife take command of the Boat, while you are having your Bloody Marys and Screw Drivers.

A bad news for ya. The price of Skol has gone up considerably. It is no longer a 50 cent a can,but almost 75. So you might have to spend more money while in the Amazon.Of course for you what is a 50% increase in the price.You can afford.

You are too much of a characiture to be for real, Gty. I just figured it out.

You were much faster than I was in figuring it out! You have to read all his posts to appreciate his sense of humor!!

Holy s**t...$0.50 for a Skol, my God, how much is a Bohemia???

my Contender

I forgot to tell ya that his boat "Contender" is nuclear powered and he built it himself. He also owns a mini Space Shuttle.

A Contender is a brand, Google their website, the boats name is the "Reel Fun" and runs three 250 horsepower outboards. I didn't say I owned a mini space shuttle, just a Beamer that my wife uses to shuttle my kids to football training. Life is sssssooooo good here in Miami, truley the worlds greatest city.

Holy s**t...$0.50 for a Skol, my God, how much is a Bohemia???

You dont pay any attention. The Skol costs $0.75 now and Bohemia $1.00.It is becoming very expensive to drink beer these days ,thanks to your beloved friend Lula . I think I will start drinking Cachaça and I suggest you bring your own drinks while traveling in Amazon

I didn't say I owned a mini space shuttle

Never mind and you dont matter. I say you own a mini space shuttle unless I say otherwise.This is called disinformation and part of the "Art of War" written by Sun Tsu (did I spell the name correctly). And dont come up with the bulls**t that you havent heard about or read this book.

Hello people, I'm just entering the 'discussion' now...

i 've got tell you all that, although I don't have the stomach to read JOAO DA SILVA the fixed idea I get while reading his posts further, which I barely do, is that he is a big QUEEEEEEEEEEEEER. Ugh, joao please you make your brazilian compatriotas ashamed. less gay PLEASE.............

i 've got tell you all that, although I don't have the stomach to read JOAO DA SILVA the fixed idea I get while reading his posts further, which I barely do, is that he is a big QUEEEEEEEEEEEEER

Thanks. Do you have anything against Queers? If so, you better check our laws and if you do so, you will discover that it is fobidden to be discriminatory against Queers.

Please EXIT the discussion now MS, our good buddy Joao, also known as Gilligan is twice the man you will ever be and why did you pick the screen name "MS"? That sounds kind of gay to me.

Joao, I am a discipile of Tsu, use him when selling drugs to the pharma market. My chosen profession is fighting battles everyday with the competition, I win more than my share.

You self-defended queer!!!!! You gay stop sucking gringo balls. Have self-respect. hahahahah GTY there are only gays on this site??? hahahahahaha Yuk, what woman wants to read gay discussions??? hahahaha

I'm for real

Next time you want to come across as a s**t-hot, big spending playboy, Gty, don't try so hard. Real wealthy people don't spend their time bragging about their lifestyle in anonymous internet postings. You might have gotten away with your portrayal if you'd keyed it down. As is... well...

I found a great 18th century definition of the kind of American you most probably are. In 1760, the English Earl of Dartmouth received a letter describing the poor white trash of the Southern colonies in the following terms:

"I should explain to your Lordship what is meant by Crackers ; a name they have got from being great boasters and liars; they are a lawless set of rascalls on the frontiers of Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas, and Georgia, who often change their places of abode".

Fits you to a tee.

Now, Aninha, if you would like to come by with a filo dental, you are more than welcome. You would if you could, don't lie to yourself, unless you are one of the fat Brazilian women for Valaderes, then you can clean my toleits, I pay US100.00 twice a week to my current Brazilian maid, but if you would do it for $99...I'll give you the job. I'll hire your kid to wash my Hummer.

Gty, my family could probably buy and sell yours. I also do not think that people who are doing well in life need to brag about what they own. That is a very low class attribute.

You self-defended queer!!!!! You gay stop sucking gringo balls. Have self-respect. hahahahah GTY there are only gays on this site??? hahahahahaha Yuk, what woman wants to read gay discussions??? hahahah

I must congratulate you for your excellent English.It is real Queer´s English. I bet you learnt it while living in good ole England and polishing the shoes of the Bobbies in London Town.

I wanted to be part of a rational, intelligent discussion about the Gol/Legacy disaster but all I'm seeing are the usual infantile, moronic comments that have nothing to do with the original topic. Let's cut the recriminations and name calling.

Nega, why don you go on throwing your constitution amendments at me so you make stop? It is not a law that will make me respect queers. I probably respect you more than you respect yourself xiii

Where you from,Fortaleza?

Meaningful discussion much less honesty doesn't make it's abode here (nor anywhere else in the country to which this site presumably revolves around.

Last thing I saw of relavance was A-B stating hers(shes) belief of the intents of the author and others way back when: "wanted to make some pressure in order to release the pilots before any conclusion could be reached."

What's still incredible is that A-B simply doesn't understand that it matters naught that they were in X stars worth of accomodations vs an institution formally designated a prison, they were in fact being imprisioned from the point in time they completed their initial deposition. Waiting a month or so until the controllers could get over their illnesses enough to make their depositions hasn't got a damned thing to do with it nor does what forces were working on the public (or behind the scenes political wrangling) that went on, the fact that there was a "release" before any conclusion could be reached (using A-B's rationale for not letting those poor b'tards go home mais pronto) proves they were prisoners (and would still be now and forever until the ATC, FAB, infrustruture are proven to have had nothing what so ever for a contributions to the tragedy).

Aninha said:
Gty, my family could probably buy and sell yours. I also do not think that people who are doing well in life need to brag about what they own. That is a very low class attribute.

The name of that is new money, if any.

I am sure you are the typical Carioca man, about 5 foot 5, 150lbs and huge pussy

Hey Gty, I don't know how tall is 5,5 I guess it's supposed to be short, but i'm a 1,90m and proud GAÚCHO from Vale do Caí, not a carioca. João might know where is it.

I wish you were here to call my wife a whore in front of me, my friends could laugh and drink beer while they watched me beat you to a pulp. I have seen so many Brazilian men back down from a confrontation it makes me want to puke.

I guess it's not exactly like that. Those jiu-jitsu cariocas wouldn't make it that easy for you. They are always the ones to be beaten on MMA fights.

After all, you don't know the south, better, by your posts you don't have a minimum idea of what the normal life is in normal Brasil.
Doesn't matter , after all, I'm brasilian, and brasilians are scum.I just don't know why you keep coming to this site. Perhaps to take a few laughs on João's responses. That guy has a gift. Not everyone has the ability to keep it cool, and still being "por cima da carne seca".

Hey Gty, I don't know how tall is 5,5 I guess it's supposed to be short, but i'm a 1,90m and proud GAÚCHO from Vale do Caí, not a carioca. João might know where is it.

Bah tche,you from our southern border? I am very pleased and of course I know where you come from.5.5 is equal to 1,60 m.

Doesn't matter , after all, I'm brasilian, and brasilians are scum.I just don't know why you keep coming to this site. Perhaps to take a few laughs on João's responses. That guy has a gift. Not everyone has the ability to keep it cool, and still being "por cima da carne seca".

Who says the Brazilians are scum ? Not all .I dont think that the Scum GTY has ever visited our beloved South. I think he should hire a car in POA and drive to Gramado and all the nice places in RS where there are plenty of good things to see and appreciate (good women too).btw, GTY comes to this site just to impress his Brazilian Sogra (probably a good Gaucha).

You stay cool and dont get intimidated by GTY. We Southerners are not accustomed to be pissed upon by these ruthless Gringos.

The only jiu-jitsu cariocas I've met were mulheira and had been campeon in their class one or more times, one on the national level. Neither had the let me turn my face to the wall or back down from c**ky Gringo issues like Gty aludes the homen have. One has had the opportunity to have been robbed on multiple occassions by bandidos that in other circumstances and or a one on one situation she undoubtedly would have beaten the paydu out of. I'm wondering whether advantages purportedly gained on the fiscal front of business dealings hasn't made Gty think that that great cack of his makes him sufficiently more of a manly man that he can gradate cariocas from paulistas from . . . with unquestionable authority.

I wanted to be part of a rational, intelligent discussion about the Gol/Legacy disaster but all I'm seeing are the usual infantile, moronic comments that have nothing to do with the original topic. Let's cut the recriminations and name calling.

Yukonsam, you wouldnt find any rational,intelligent discussion about Gol/Legacy disaster in this thread. There is a Swiss guy who goes by the name of ch.c that keeps on interrupting.If youtook a little time to read the comments of Macunaima, you will get a better picture.He said it all.

You from Yukon?

It is better to be rich than poor. One of the things that money allows is time, freedom of time, freedom of choice.

The life of the rich and the poor are very different except in Hawaii where all of the beaches are public and the poor lay upon the white sands of Waikiki along side the rich, it is an amusing irony.

GTY's life is a DICTATORSHIP (just punning). He is a fisherman, a teller of truths and of tales. But as a fisherman one can discern the truth of the tale. The lure, the line, the test, the outrigger, the electronics, define the veracity of the tale.

Now I haven't heard him describe the gutting of the fish, but it is often enough just to catch them. Leave the rest to the cook.

I have seen extreem wrestling, cage fighting and the Brazilians are amongst the toughest.

Skol is $1.50 on the Beach at Leblon now. . .may be forced to go back to Remy.

Your perception of global political history is based on a naive concept of event.

You wish to start with the Spanish American War.

It would be better to start with the Ottoman Turks to gain a greater understanding of current events.

You ask about Granada mockingly, but the Russians were building some of the largest runways in the world their using Cuban labor.

There are military and strategic reasons that are above your pay grade.

But if you want to see the raison d'etre of a thing look at the consequence. Marxism is dead, China is a global capitalistic society, with access to satelite and internet. The old Soviets have broken into a multitude of free states, the Berlin Wall no longer exists, and all of this is related to everything that was done over the past 100 or so years.

You are a Monday morning quarterback. You would not have dropped the atomic bomb, killing a 150,000 instead of a million which was the estimate of what an invasion of Japan by the U.S. was estimated.

Ahh the horror. What about Darfur, Cambodia, Yougoslavia, Bosnia, Iran, Iraq (they killed a million of each other). You are politically naive and ill informed.

Your view of history is obfiscated with the lenses of political idealism. Hell they just released slaves in China, Friday. They are butchering hundreds of thousands of innocents in Darfur, what do you suggest, a flower?

Peace in our time, Chamberlain's words before the deluge of 10 million butchered.

Man is a psychocybernetic organism, we stumble off balance making minute subtle corrections to our errors, I suppose the goal is not to get killed, it seems the world has become less of a threat to itself over the past fifty years. Certainly there must have been some relationship between U.S. political policy and the diminised threat to us all.

sea ase esa aes

Yes, you can be rich or poor or anywhere in between and go to the sea and fish. To catch fish, to catch big fish, to catch many many fish, whether it is for you have enough to eat or for you are satisfied in some other way (even if you catch none), it is enough.

Yes, the freedom of having enough for a rental car to go to some remote praia with a cooler full of Antartica or Ipaitava (which was cheaper by far in that locale at that time) was great. Having the freedom to pick up a few extra sinkers and hooks and more shrimps paid off as well. It was enough to make for a great day, to relieve the pain of age, to finish filling the bolsa for the family churrasco on Sunday, to keep a quartet of 10-11 year old local boys with hand lines spooled around old soda bottles / whatnot into the game and having a blast for several hours more than they would have had otherwise. Ignoring the vehicle expense, what $15 or there abouts brought was priceless. Even without the Contender, young hottie freinds in tow and opportunity for toplessness views, such a day especially with acompanhada like mine was enough to make me feel very very rich indeed.

Those who are following this story carefully might want to consult the ExcelAire report that I linked to earlier -- here's another link to it -- specifically the section regarding questions about the transponder equipment and its history. In that 22,000-word report, filed in Portuguese on April 9 with the Federal Police, ExcelAire says it didn't learn till after the crash that some key c**kpit equipment was used, not new, and had in fact been repaired before being installed in the Legacy.

Neither Embraer, the plane's manufacturer, nor Honeywell, which made the transponder equipment, has commented on that. Honeywell did comment (last item, below) on the recent N.T.S.B. report, saying its transponders meet current standards in how they alert pilots to a malfunction. No one disputes that point.

It's been known since day one, by the way, that the transponder on the Legacy apparently was not transmitting a signal, removing the last potential barrier to a mid-air collision that was already long set in motion by failures on the ground that kept the two aircraft coming at each other at 37,000 feet.

The new N.T.S.B. report that has the Brazilian authorities so riled up merely says that c**kpit voice-recording data show that the American pilots were not aware the transponder was malfunctioning till after the impact -- which has been known for some time. The report suggests to the F.A.A. that transponders ought to be designed to give pilots sufficient warning when they are not functioning.

And as I have reported here repeatedly, Brazilian air-traffic control was aware that the Legacy's transponder wasn't signaling at all for about 55 minutes before the crash -- and inexplicably did nothing about it.
http://joesharkeyat.blogspot.c...again.html

GTY's life is a DICTATORSHIP (just punning). He is a fisherman, a teller of truths and of tales. But as a fisherman one can discern the truth of the tale. The lure, the line, the test, the outrigger, the electronics, define the veracity of the tale

AES, it is great to hear from ya. We all thought you were trvelling overseas. You still in Brazil?.

I whole heartedly agree that GTY is a big DICTATOR.

btw, last night I remembered ya,because there was a party and a distinguished Yiddish professor from New Paltz was present ( known him for over 30 years) and my wife decided to serve falafel! And the 77 year old fart was very pleased.

Good to hear from you again and keep in touch. Of course, the Prof must be in Clube Bahamas following the advice of GTY

Skol is $1.50 on the Beach at Leblon now. . .may be forced to go back to Remy.

GTY, the report from our agent in Rio is absolutely shocking. You better take some Coors with ya to Manaus

João, are you a gaúcho or a paranaense? Anyway, I'll put some links so people, and specially GTY can learn a litlle bit of the unknown south for the foreigners. The first one is only about RS, in english, the second is about porto alegre, the capital.the third is some separatism s**t, but at least shows all the three states of the south See ya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2zqcw6D6aw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_MkpVWMBoM (the music here was composed by the mayor, Fogaça)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vizhltnFWOs

New, used, what's the diff? I've had one of Honeywell's major competitor's "new" equipment pass through my lab and ID'd problems (albeit intermittent) that multiple rounds through the manufacturer's factory acceptance tests did not detect.

Anyway, the probablity that the crew inadvertantly turned the damned thing off and didn't notice the WHITE advisory (i.e. it's not an amber CAUTION or a red WARNING which is hopefully more eye catching to the flight crew) that the TCAS was OFF which woulda shoulda coulda appear on their primary flight displays is still probably higher than the unit having experienced some sort of undetected / undetectable single event upset (SEU) that left it inoperative.

AES, thanks for pointing out that the non-functioning status of this non-critical mechanism of last defense for preventing these kinds of tragedies was supposed to have been caught and addressed by ATC - no one in Brazil will believe this after all the crap they've been fed.

According to their report, two days before the accident, Embraer's test pilots noted in an acceptance flight for the Legacy that the images on the flight management system "were flickering and trembling."

In the text, they say that Embraer's own later inspection "revealed that the systems were incorrectly connected, which motivated the suspicion that other systems may present, in the same way, defective connections."

In the first investigations after the accident, the Air Force was already working with the possibility of a "loose contact" between the transponder and the aircraft antenna.

http://www.globalaviationlaw.c...-crash.php

This may come as a shock to you, but there it is.

You ask about Granada mockingly, but the Russians were building some of the largest runways in the world their using Cuban labor.

So what? It's not like those runways gave the U.S. any great strategic disadvantage.

As for the Phillipine War (which is historically an entirely different conflict from the Spanish-American War - in the S-A War, the Philipinos were the U.S.' allies. But I guess that knowing about that history is above your pay grade...), the point is that the U.S. has had a long history of trying to nation-build at the point of a bayonet and rarely, if ever, has it ended up achieving its stated goals. What does Ottoman Turkey have to do with that?

But if you want to see the raison d'etre of a thing look at the consequence. Marxism is dead, China is a global capitalistic society, with access to satelite and internet. The old Soviets have broken into a multitude of free states, the Berlin Wall no longer exists, and all of this is related to everything that was done over the past 100 or so years.

Again, if you could concretely show us how the invasions of Panama and Grenada and the Contra War in Nicaragua contributed to any of this, then you might have a point. As is, you're just spouting boilerplate ideology. Your the kind of guy who probably believed whole-heartedly in the old domino theory regarding Vietnam, too. But that war was lost and you Yanks didn't end up "having to fight them in Pasadena", did you? I love how you seem to think Brazil's a joke, and yet you simultaneously want us to believe that an impoverished island with a total population of around 100,000 was somehow a huge, insurrmountable strategic threat to the U.S. and that it's invasion was a historical victory for humanity.

Sure wish I had some of whatever you're smoking, AES. If the "huge threat" Maurice Bishop's Grenada posed to the U.S. is "common knowledge" at your "paygrade", then I'd rate said paygrade at right around E-5. And probably with a posting in the motorpool in some ass-end of nowhere in the U.S. Southwest, to boot.

And as for China and Russia... Capitalist they may indeed be, which is well enough. But neither of them has improved its human rights record and if you think either is anything approaching a responsible democracy, then you are simply out of your mind. Capitalism does not necessarily equal democracy nor responsability and I, personally, am far more interested in human rights, the rule of law and democracy as a measure of global progress than whether or not McDonalds can sell Big Macs. You seem to confuse and conflate the two. Typically (ignorant) American thinking, unfortunately. Or better yet, the typical thinking of those ignorant Americans who think "Top Gun" and "Rambo" are documentaries.

What about Darfur, Cambodia, Yougoslavia, Bosnia, Iran, Iraq (they killed a million of each other).

Lost me there, hoss. What does ANY of that have to do with the U.S.' capability to nation-build at bayonet point? And as for Hiroshima and Nagasaki, what, exactly does that have to do with the subject at hand?

Man is a psychocybernetic organism, we stumble off balance making minute subtle corrections to our errors, I suppose the goal is not to get killed, it seems the world has become less of a threat to itself over the past fifty years. Certainly there must have been some relationship between U.S. political policy and the diminised threat to us all.

Time to put the bong down, AES.

First of all, there's no rational proof at all that the world is "less of a threat to itself". The threat has changed, yes, but the end of a threat of WWIII, at least temporarily, has not made the world a safer place on the whole - just ask the Pentagon. They are QUITE clear on this point. More wars are happening now than in the period between 1950-1990. Larger genocides are taking place. More countries have nukes. More terrorist groups have potential access to WMD. Ecologically, the world is headed down a slide, perhaps quite rapidly. The reality of environmental degradation is no longer contested: how fast it's happening is the only question (ask any biologist). Furthermore, according to the World Bank, the number of poor in the world is increasing, in absolute numbers and in terms of percentages and wealth distribution is getting worse. So your presumption, that the world is so much better off than 50 years ago, is very, very debatable.

But even if it were true, one would need to show a causual link between American policy and the current state of the world, not just assume it. That is what rationality is all about and that's what I am into discussing, not ideology. For what it's worth, I don't see U.S. policy as having made the world much better OR worse, except in strictly local and contextual ways.

Now, I happen to be of the opinion that the current mess we are in is not one that has a solution without U.S. input. But if all the U.S. can say is "might makes right", "free market = rule of law and democracy" (which anyone with half a brain knows is not necessarily true) and "yer either fer us er again' us", then all I can say is that it's a shame to watch the world's only superpower piss away its momentary hegemony by trying to make global diplomacy and politics conform to the plot of a bad Hollywood B movie.

Thanks tche for the 3 clips. I loved them. The third one is not really not about the separtism,but it did enhance our Sountern image. No worries.

btw, I am neither from RS nor PR. Sandwitched in between. A real B.Verde!!

Now, I happen to be of the opinion that the current mess we are in is not one that has a solution without U.S. input. But if all the U.S. can say is "might makes right", "free market = rule of law and democracy" (which anyone with half a brain knows is not necessarily true) and "yer either fer us er again' us", then all I can say is that it's a shame to watch the world's only superpower piss away its momentary hegemony by trying to make global diplomacy and politics conform to the plot of a bad Hollywood B movie.

You must be a Capetowner or from Brisbane

The Shaw of Iran was overthrown in 1979
The Soviets were in Afghanistan from 1979-1989.
The were seeking global hegemony and were stopped by Reagan in a series of seemingly irrelevant wars in the Carribian and Central America.

Granada was an opening gambit that ended in the Cold War and the dismantaling of the Soviets in Eastern Europe.
The first move


On October 19, 1983, Grenadian Prime Minister Maurice Bishop and a number of his top aides were executed by the People's Revolutionary Army (PRA), on orders from a radical new political group known as the "Revolutionary Military Council." Intending to replace Bishop's Marxist government with an even more virulent Marxist regime. Fears of the possibility of a new Soviet ally so close to U.S. shores (a fear bolstered by the recent construction of a 10,000 foot runway capable of handling the largest military transports. Enormous amounts of weapons, ammunition and supplies were captured BEFORE they could be flown into Latin America to create wars and rebellions.

December. NATO Survives Peacenik Offensive. Reagan's insistence on sticking by NATO commitments bears fruit as alliance survives arrival of first U.S. cruise missiles at England's Greenham Common air base, and first battery of Pershing IIs in West Germany. European leaders who stood with Reagan are supported by voters-Helmut Kohl elected on March 6, 1983, and Margaret Thatcher overwhelmingly reelected on June 9, 1983.

This was a second part of the opening gambit.

Now as to the Ottoman Empires disintegration and its current relevency to today"s geopolitical reality, it was the division by the French and English seizing Middle Eastern oil and establish nearly a hundred year immoral hegemony. The raison d'etre of Al Qaida.

As to the world being better off I was thinking of advancements in medicine, famine relief, the saving of millions of lives as a consequence to flooding, earthquakes, sunamis. U.S. relief, space technology, scientific research.

You missed the chess game of the Cold War. You were not privy to the planning. But you are a critic. The proof is the Check Mate it is an a priori assumption the supporting evidence is a tome.

Now we are engaged in a second chess game, the opening gambit of that was the murdering of the Olympic athletes, and the Kobar towers, the Kole, the African embassy bombings and the New York Trade Towers.

Geopolitical chess is played twenty years ahead. But events are not random, and there is causality. You do not have the information or the distance from the game to see the offence and the defense.

There is no option to lose. The Chinese in their neo nascent capitalism have a great deal to lose. If you have nothing, you have nothing to lose. Millions of Chinese have a great deal to lose. The old guard is dying and the promise of Tiananmen Square is manifesting itself.

It is always best to have the best weaponry and technology, you dont come to a gun fight with a knife.

As to ideology vs rationality it is a non sequitor. There is only result and it is often a matter of probability rather than certainty. Your rationality is rationality only if the result is attained. The operation was a success but the patient died. Lineality and Newtonian physics vs quantum mechanics and probability.

'I love how you seem to think Brazil's a joke' That is your perception. ADM is negotiating for Cosan, Brazil's largest sugar and ethanaol producer. Billions of dollars is being poured into Bovespa, Brazil's importance is hardly construed to be a joke.

Well, your writing was a pleasure to read. It is childishly naive, but well crafted.

Philippine-American War 1899-1902 (1906) a war between the United States and Filipino revolutionaries from 1899 to 1902; the insurrection may be seen as a continuation of the Philippine Revolution against Spanish rule. The Treaty of Paris (189 transferred Philippine sovereignty from Spain to the United States but was not recognized by Filipino leaders, whose troops were in actual control of the entire archipelago except the capital city of Manila. Although an end to the insurrection was declared in 1902, sporadic fighting continued for several years thereafter.

Joao sua bicha hahaha stop chasing AES in front of everybody. Btw, I learned English the same place you did, in London, but while I learned it in school you learned it in the street as a michê. How did you like to be f**ked by George Michael?

AES you motherf**ker why don't you read CIA recently released documents on their illegal activities?

I learned English the same place you did, in London,

Eaton or Harrow or in Buckingham Palace itself? I am getting more and more impressed with your profiound knowledge ot the English Language. I hope your daddy (more likely your mum) paid for the expenses.

You are right, I learnt the language in the same place you did,except that it was in Soho.That was a long time ago and I paid for my school washing dishes in a restaurant run by Pakistanis.

I dont give a f**k about your perception of 'illegality' I believe in pragmatism, assasinate the mother f**ker, nuke the mother f**ker. Their is no equanimity in war. It is not about morality it is about survival. Do you think the politicians run the government, they do not. The government does not define or fight the war. Do you think Dresden was humane? Or Hiroshima? f**k the enemy, exterminate them. I am not into intellectualizing war. It is a bloody awful thing, it is Hell, it is blood and gore and misery.

I intend to read the newly published CIA reports. The CIA should be given more black ops. The anti Vietnam War press is still around spewing a self destructive diatribe. The world is about power and its use of it. To fear the use of power, to fear ruthlessness is to oppose 'The Art of War'. War and power are not games, they end in death. Let it be theirs. The age of global humanitanism is 100 years
away.
Pragmatism is to win, not to ask permission to win.

Well yes Americans are world famous for holding no morals whatsoever, being them neocons or liberals. Then VIVA OSAMA & AL QAEDA You motherf**kers never got him and never will. VIVA 9/11

You are right, I learnt the language in the same place you did,except that it was in Soho.That was a long time ago and I paid for my school washing dishes in a restaurant run by Pakistanis.

Actually another reason to believe you lick gringo balls if you get what you want, a big hard dick and $money$, you did whatever to learn your master's language now go get money and get f**ked by aes types.

Well ms. tobias, the banality of your language is superceded only by your intellect, which at best seems to be insipid, or inspiringly dull.

You seem to completely disregard the billions of foreign aid, famine relief, earthquake relief even with Iran, Pakistan earthquake relief.
The United States has over the past 60 years the first to come to the aid of global humanity, to friends and foe alike.

It is tantamountly false that 'Americans are world famous for holding no morals whatsoever'.

You are mendaciously vapid. A surprisingly vulgar pedant.

No I don't seem to disregard the "billions" of foreign aid, but that is also a US hypocritical marketing after all Africa's been asking for enough money for decades to relieve their miseries and all America seem to do is raise the money for wars. Also all America seem to do is telling the audience they give away "billion" of dollars. But I've read the US aid given to Africa continent does not get close to one "billion". Money for drugs are lacking, money for everything is lacking, even for mosquito killers are in need in that continent. My, if America was giving away "billions" they wouldn't be killing little girls in Iraq for oil! I suppose either you are ignorant or the typical hypocrite. It seems the strategy of the US people like AES is the typical American hypocrital pragmatic strategy, first mantain your leadership position by killing millions of innocent people in weaker nations then you broadcast that you approach with little monie or big money in the case you decide to reconstruct or will gain with the interests. You m andrade aline well the strategy, what you are Anerikan or Brazilian?

You don't seem ashamed or revolted by AES' statement. Why did you answer me? Don't you like to be treated like you treat other peoples, don't you like to be wished what you wish to others? No you don't like to lose, no matter what it costs and what is the price. It doesn't matter what your FOX type media says to you, America is world famous for holding no morals whatsoever. Maybe you should read more, maybe something serious for a change.

"I dont give a f**k about your perception of 'illegality' I believe in pragmatism, assasinate the mother f**ker, nuke the mother f**ker. Their is no equanimity in war. It is not about morality it is about survival. Do you think the politicians run the government, they do not. The government does not define or fight the war. Do you think Dresden was humane? Or Hiroshima? f**k the enemy, exterminate them. I am not into intellectualizing war. It is a bloody awful thing, it is Hell, it is blood and gore and misery."

I agree with you 100% my gringo friend, if we would have been less worried about bombing mosques and hospitals or how the Pakistanis would react to us chasing Bin Laden there...this war would be over. We didn't worry about Hiroshima or Dresden and we quickly and decively won those wars, when did war become so "humane". The big test in the near future will be Iran, will we have the nerve to use a tactical nuke to take out Iran's nuke capabilites?

As for fishing...we had a memorable weekend, outrigger knockdowns all day on BIG bull and cow Mahi's, great snapper on the reef and a 75 lb black grouper. Spent 300 buck in gass, but we only drank $50 in beer...I call it a deal.

but we only drank $50 in beer

You trying to become a teetotoller?

The Shaw of Iran was overthrown in 1979
The Soviets were in Afghanistan from 1979-1989.
The were seeking global hegemony and were stopped by Reagan in a series of seemingly irrelevant wars in the Carribian and Central America.

Excuse me: the SOVIETS were responsible for the fall of the Shah?! The Sandanistas were somehow a threat to U.S. hegemony in Central America? Riiiiiiiiight. A country which can barely feed itself was going to take on and defeat Unka sugar because Moscow sent them a couple of dozen MiG 21s. And if you can show me exactly HOW the invasion of Grenada, an island which meant exactly nothing to nobody, concretely brought the Soviet Union one step closer to economic collapse (which was, after all, what did it in), I will eat my hat. the very fact that I've asked you to do this now three times and that you've not even tried indicates that you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Please, AES. Try those lines with someone who doesn't know a thing about history. It might actually work. with me, it just makes you look like an ideology-bound fool.

Enormous amounts of weapons, ammunition and supplies were captured BEFORE they could be flown into Latin America to create wars and rebellions.

Got a listing of those "enormous ammounts"? Because i do and they certainly weren't anything to get upset over. Besides, certain corrupt and bloody-handed governments in Central America DESERVE to fall to revolt. You, after all, are one of the people whining here about how Brazilians should stand up to OUR government, AES. Lula is NOTHING, in terms of human rights violations, compared to the junta in El Salvador in the 1980s. Are you REALLY stating that Jefferson and Washington were wrong and that oppressed people DO NOT have the right to rise up against evil leaders? Forgive me for asking, but isn't this what the invasion of Iraq was supposedly all about? How can you claim the fall of Sadam Hussein was a boon for humanity on the one hand and yet simultaneously claim that it was wrong for the Nicaraguan people to revolt against their dictator?

Seems like your only judge of value is "if it's our ally, we'll defend it, no matter how evil or bloody they might be". You may call that "pragmantic" and it may perhaps be so, but your whole argument up to now is that the U.S. acts for the GOOD of humanity. Now you seem to be saying that humanity can go take a piss up a rope whenever U.S. hegemony is even slightly threatened. Those two positions are mutually exclusive. Which is yours?

You missed the chess game of the Cold War. You were not privy to the planning. But you are a critic. The proof is the Check Mate it is an a priori assumption the supporting evidence is a tome.

Actually, I'm far more privy to the planning of the Cold War than you are, I'll bet. the record itself is quite clear and available for anyone who wants to take a look at it. I've done primary document research on it. While your chess analogy is cute, global diplomacy is not a game and there are rarely clear-cut losers or winners. "Containment" policy was based on keeping the U.S.S.R. cut off from critical resources and allies. Even Kenan would have never considered Nicaragua, Cuba, or El Salvador to be "crucial" pieces in that sort of arrangement. You're just too pig-headed to admit that the U.S., like any other empire, gets involved in some butt-stupid wars from time to time. You're the kind of ideologue who believes his home country can do no wrong and that is simply the long and short of it. No logic needed on your part.

As for Al Quaeda and the Ottomans, sorry, you're worng. Quaeda's roots can be found in internal religous struggles in what is now Saudi Arabia LONG BEFORE the Ottoman empire collapsed. Look it up.

As to ideology vs rationality it is a non sequitor. There is only result and it is often a matter of probability rather than certainty.

Very nice. You realize that both Adolph Hitler and Joseph Stalin had much the same view of politics and morality? The notion that might makes right and winning is everything is a very old one in the history of world imperialism. You Americans have not invented it. Ultimately, it is a sterile philosophy which has directly lead to the collapse of more empires than any other. With (near) absolute power comes the concept that history itself can be completely rewritten according to contemporary needs (Orwell pointed that one out) and also the view that no other oppinions other than that of the ruling party matter. Generally, shortly following this sort of conceptual decadence, the empires in question begin a terminal collapse. This is not the philosophy of "pragmatism" that you're spouting, AES: it is simply cloud-cuckoo land.

With regards to the Spanish-american War and the Phillipine War, yes, one can be seen as the continuation of the other in much the same way that WWII can be seen as the continuation of WWI. Only someone whose views of history were either totally naive or cynical would claim that they were the same thing, however. Unless, of course, it is your view that the colonization of the Phillipines and the destruction of native governement there was ALWAYS the U.S.' goal and they only allied with the Philipinos in a cynical move to gain dominance? If that is your point, I might agree, but it certainly runs counter to your view of "the U.S. can do no wrong".

AES sez:

I dont give a f**k about your perception of 'illegality' I believe in pragmatism, assasinate the mother f**ker, nuke the mother f**ker. Their is no equanimity in war.

Interesting. So by your lights, then, Al Quaeda was completely justified in destroying the World Trade Center, seeing as how the U.S. is their enemy?

If that's the case, then terrorism doesn't exist. Any violent act which strikes at the enemy or his citizens is a valid one. Interesting position for an American who claims to defend the war on terrorism.

The United States has over the past 60 years the first to come to the aid of global humanity, to friends and foe alike.

Any chance of getting it to pay the reparations it owes to Vietnam or its U.N. dues? Or can we only expect the Yanks to move their ass when it's in their political interest?

I'm confused, AES. When you describe U.s. policy, you wobble back and forth between a Machievellian prgamaticism that would make stalin blush and an insistance that youb Yanks are pure-hearted angels with the best interests of the world in heart. Which is it, kid? Pragmaticism or respect for others? You can't have both, you know.

Pragmatism is to win, not to ask permission to win.

I've been hearing people like you thump your chests about "winning" since I was a little kid. In fact, you almost never do. When is victory coming in Iraq? Can you give us a date? Can you even describe what it would look like? I'll give you this: Yanks are number one when it comes to killing. No doubt. But can you actually BUILD a nation where none has really existed before? You've never been able to yet, in spite all of the rhetoric to the contrary.

And that's the point here, AES. Anyone over the age of thirty has heard all this chest-thumping, light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel, "weeeeee are the champions" s**t before and you Yanks have rarely been able to make it work. Why the hell should ANYONE in the world to anything but sn****r when you they hear it now?

You want to be the world's cops? Fine. But there's such a thing as "community policing" you know. It's been known to work, but it rarely does when the cops in question are convinced that they are morally, spiritually and perhaps even racially superior to the people they are policing.

Anyone who believes that what's happening in the Mideast can be compared to WWII is not awake and is not even listening to what the PENTAGON has to say about war in the 21st century. This is a "hearts and minds" war if ever there was one, but many Yank yobs such as GTY think it can be resolved with "kill them all and let God sort them out". I'd be alarmed if I didn't realize that this is the same yahoo jingosim that has lead to embarassing Yank retreats in the past.

But if anyone wants to know why few people in the world give a s**t anymore when Quaeda wastes Americans, one only needs to look at the bombastic arrogance on display above. If blather and boosterism won wars, the U.S. would already own the planet. As it is, it looks to me like their apogee as an empire has already been reached. I wonder how long it will take before that reality seeps down into the consciousness of beery cracker armchair Cesears like Gty and AES?

In nominal dollars, total United States aid to Sub-Saharan Africa increased from $2.034 billion in FY 2000 to $3.399 billion in FY 2004.
In nominal dollars, of the $1.365 billion overall increase, $728.9 million, or 53%, consists of emergency food aid rather than overseas development assistance, which contributes to sustainable development. The remainder of the increase is comprised primarily of funding for the President's HIV/AIDS initiative (distributed between two accounts, Child Survival and Global Health) as well as emergency and post-conflict assistance to Liberia and Sudan.

You are in British parlence a f**king twit.

Yes we would be better of to let Africa die, they continue the same behavior, creating a circle of 'dusty death'. And wasting billions of dollars aiding ALL of humanity, including Iran, China, Russia. What in your cynical cosmology does the U.S. gain by saving these lives. It would be infinitely smarter to let them spend their resources on rescue and rebuilding. It would be so much more economically and politically wiser to let the weak perish.

I personally prefer isolationism, let the world kill itself off, seek its common level. Let the world suffer the consequences of its philosophies.

But the U.S. is a sucker for the face of human tragedy. Unlike you and whatever petty country you come from we actually put ourselves in harms way and spend more than the totality of your gross nagtional income helping humanity.

I say f**k it and f**k you. You are petty critics masquerading as intellects. You people dont have a clue of how the world works, but you certainly have a plethora of critical vitriolic commentary on the evils of America.

Look up your own nose for the stink of inhumanity. Do more and criticize less. It is so easy to criticize. It is the actual doing that is the implement to change, not prating criticism.

Personally I am sick of your trite, ignorant, pseudointellectual, ill informed, ill researched opining.

http://www.brookings.edu/views...050627.htm

Great fish up date. Damn, 75 lb Black Grouper. Light up the barbecue. Their's blackened grouper on the menu with a little wild rice.
Thanks again GTY, AES.

I wonder how long it will take before that reality seeps down into the consciousness of beery cracker armchair Cesears like Gty and AES?

Well,my friends, our new friend Mac has got you by your balls and I am just a neutral observer

If I were you , I would go to Mac´s bar and have some beer and discuss Geopolitics.

I was curious as to your literary level.

So was I!. A refreshing reminder that there are plenty of Brazilians who also have "Brain Power". Thanks,bud.

My friend, you kill destroy devaste entire nations and several peoples and think you will get away with it? The billions you "make" by stealing and destroying other nations you will give some of it back because life is fairer in more ways than you think.

Mario de Andrade wrote Macunaíma, was I supposed to throw it your way because of your nickname? What is it a puzzle game? You Americans love games, super moron ones. lol

No you don't prefer isolasionism because if that happened your nation wouldn't be paying USD$$$ 1 a galon of petrol (roll eyes) . You don't prefer isolasionism because you wouldn't be number one power, through killing millions of hundrends of people through the centuries. No you don't prefer isolacionism because this way you could not be throwing at the world's face that you give away "billions" of dollars to the needy you explore. Hahahahahahahahahaha

Yeah, here's a joke I'm sure you Yanks can appreciate, seeing as how you seem to think world diplomacy is all about "pragmantics" and killing, right?

Know what the elevator music system in the World Trade Center was playing on the morning of 11/9/2001?

"It's raining men, halleilujah!"

Funny, huh? I mean, who gives a f**k about human life, let's just get it on. I'm sure that the overweight, overfed, neurotic Americans who can't bear life unless it's air-conditioned to a fair-thee-well well, in the end, prove to be much more resilient than the 4 billion or so "third worlders" that a*****es like AES, GTY and Andrade wave away as "expendable". In a pissing match, over the long term, I know where my bet would be placed.

Hey, GTY, how many American Marines does it take to defuse a roadside IDS? 10. Two white trash highschool dropouts to cut the wrong wire and eight black and chicano ghetto refugees to hose the pieces into body bags, afterwards.

LOL!

Geez, can't we all just get along? I guess it's the hate that hate created speaking there...

The remainder of the increase is comprised primarily of funding for the President's HIV/AIDS initiative (distributed between two accounts, Child Survival and Global Health) as well as emergency and post-conflict assistance to Liberia and Sudan."

You're joking, right? Most of that cash goes to teaching monogamy and chastity, which Americans themselves don't practice and never will. It does very little to change African lives but does a whole lot for the domestic politics of the born-again loons who support G. Bush. The U.S. gives aid almost exclusively for its own internal, political reasons and not for any "humanitarian" concerns it might have. At the same time it gave this cash to Africa, it cut support of Brazil's anti-AIDS program, which has been proven to be one of the best in the world, solely because the Brazilians use prostitutes to teach safe sex. Oh, how horrible! Bottom line: it has nothing to do with what works or is proven to be effective and everything to do with what looks good to right wing clowns in Congress. So please, boys, quit with your whining about how Uncle Sam is the world's greatest patsy.

And as for a good portion of where most of that American Aid actually goes, think "Haliburton". Very little aid gets distributed that diesn't come straight back to the U.S. in the form of mandated purchases from American companies. Yeah, that's "humanitarian aid" for you alright: corporate welfare for America's fat cats. Let's all bend down and kiss their little tootsies for being the selfless dears they are, shall we?

Articals are inertesting and thought provoking but the trolls that frequent this site make it all very annoying. Interesting how all countries have trolls.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Boom goes Bubba
And boom Dupris
More room for you
And more room for me.

Flag-draped coffins
Sent home to their sluts
So let's start the big one
And see what's what.

When NASA first started sending up astronauts, they quickly discovered that ballpoint pens would not work in 0 gravity. To combat this problem, NASA scientists spent a decade and $12 billion developing a pen that writes in zero gravity, upside down, underwater, on almost any surface including glass and at temperatures ranging from below freezing to over 300 C.

The Russians used a pencil.

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Pythagorean theorem: 24 words.
The Lord's prayer: 66 words.
Archimedes' Principle: 67 words.
The 10 Commandments: 179 words.
The Gettysburg address: 286 words.
The Declaration of Independence: 1,300 words.
U.S. Government regulations on cabbage sales: 26,911 words.

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Why do they use artificial turf in so many American football stadiums?
To keep the cheerleaders from grazing!

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What do you call an intelligent man in the United States?

A tourist.

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How does an American help heal the Russian economy?
-As does an injection into an artificial limb.

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For many years the Americans have been training an agent to work in Russia. His legend was superbly elaborated. Finally he was dropped off from a plane into the Russian territory dressed in a quilted jacket, felt high boots and a cap with ear-flaps. He stepped out of the woods came to the nearest log cabin and asked the old woman who lived there for a drink.
-Are you a spy dearly, the lady asked.
-Where did you get that from, old lady.
-Well, we never saw black men in these parts before.

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Once upon a time in the Kingdom of Heaven, God went missing for six days.
Eventually, Michael the archangel found him, resting on the seventh day.
He inquired of God, "Where have you been?"
God sighed a deep sigh of satisfaction and proudly pointed downwards through the clouds,
"Look Michael, look what I've made."
Archangel Michael looked puzzled and said, "What is it?"
"It's a planet," replied God, "and I've put LIFE on it. I'm going to call it Earth and it's going to be a great place of balance."
"Balance?" inquired Michael, still confused.
God explained, pointing to different parts of Earth, "For example, Northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and wealth while Southern Europe is going to be poor; the Middle East over there will be a hot spot. Over there I've placed a continent of white people and over there is a continent of black people," God continued, pointing to different countries. "This one will be extremely hot and arid while this one will be very cold and covered in ice."
The Archangel, impressed by Gods work, then pointed to a large land mass the top corner and asked, "What's that one?"
"Ah," said God. "That's Canada, the most glorious place on Earth. There's beautiful mountains, lakes, rivers, streams and an exquisite coast-line. The people from Canada are going to be modest, intelligent and humorous and they're going to be found traveling the world. They'll be extremely sociable, hard-working and high achieving, and they will be known throughout the world as diplomats and carriers of peace. I'm also going to give them super-human, undefeatable ice hockey players who will be admired and feared by all who come across them."
Michael gasped in wonder and admiration but then proclaimed. "What about balance, God? You said there will be BALANCE!"
God replied wisely. "Wait until you see the loud-mouth bastards I'm putting next to them."

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And this one really says it all...

This is the transcript on an ACTUAL radio conversation of a US Naval ship with Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October, 1995. Radio conversation released by the Chief of Naval Operations 10 - 10 - 95.

Americans: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid a collision.
Canadians: Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to the south to avoid a collision.
Americans: This is the Captain of a US Navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR course.
Canadians: No. I say again you divert YOUR course.
Americans: THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS LINCOLN, THE SECOND LARGEST SHIP IN THE UNITED STATES` ATLANTIC FLEET. WE ARE ACCOMPANIED BY THREE DESTROYERS, THREE CRUISERS AND NUMEROUS SUPPORT VESSELS. I DEMAND THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR MEASURES WILL BE UNDERTAKEN TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THIS SHIP.
Canadians: This is a lighthouse. Your call.

Articals are inertesting and thought provoking but the trolls that frequent this site make it all very annoying. Interesting how all countries have trolls.

You should better your spelling skill . "Articals are inertesting " ? Come back with correct spelling.

"thought provoking ". You got it right. I agree with you. And thanks to ME

And just because we're all into ethnocentric humor here... More American jokes

Good post. Will send to my good friends in U.S.of A

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Oh please, this a killer! this is a lighthouse KKKKKKKKKKKKKK

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IFALPA says Brazilian Polícia Federal recommendation that Legacy crew be prosecuted is fundamentally flawed.


The International Federation of Air Line Pilots’ Associations (IFALPA) is outraged to learn that the Brazilian Polícia Federal have recommended prosecution of Joseph Lepore and Jan Paladino, the pilots of the Embraer Legacy that collided with a Gol Airlines 737-800 in September of 2006, under section 261 of the Brazilian Penal Code “for placing a vessel or aircraft in jeopardy”.

The Federation believes that this course of action is flawed on a number of levels:

1) IFALPA strongly insists that, as laid down in ICAO Annex 13, Attachment E, there can be no criminal liability without intent. Brazilian law should respect this fundamental principle in all cases. As there does not seem to be any factual support for a finding that there was any intent by the Legacy crew to place their aircraft in danger, there should be no basis for prosecution under Brazilian law.

2) The decision by the Polícia Federal to exclude the military from their investigation is a staggering oversight. In its own report, the Polícia Federal acknowledges that air traffic controller performance was flawed yet failed to investigate fully the role played by air traffic control, vital to establish the sequence of events that led to the tragedy, claiming the military controllers are outside its jurisdiction.

3) Finally, IFALPA believes that in any accident it is vital that an independent technical investigation carried out by experts in air accident investigation must be completed before any criminal or civil action is pursued. To pre-empt the results of a expert technical investigation with a judicial investigation which may not be technically competent is counter productive to improvement of air safety.

IFALPA calls on the Prosecutor’s Office of Brazilian Ministry of Justice to take the opportunity comply with the guidance of ICAO Annex 13 concerning post accident prosecution and to correct the premature action of the Polícia Federal by waiting until the findings of the technical investigation are reported by CINTRA.

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Al Quaeda's roots can be found in internal religous struggles in what is now Saudi Arabia. It was Bin Ladin's attempt to overthrow the Western supported dictatorship and its injustice.

This War and it is a declared War is against an Iranian Caliphate. The Art Of War by SunTzi is about war not about the presses opinion of it.
War and morality are oxymoronic. Radical Islam is a sunami, it is not interested in compromise. Submit or die.

Chess is a metaphor for geo politics, it is not cute. It was a way to exemplify that Granada, Nicaragua, Beirut, eventually countered the fall of The Shah, the invasion of the Soviets into Afghanistan and led to the disintegration of the Soviet Union. The little wars did a great deal to raise the psyche of an impotent America, 22% interest, captured embassy, the dibacle of Viet Nam. The battle ship blowing shells the size of volkswagens over Noriega's head did much to raise a sadly depressed poulace. It led to the END GAME. The end of the Cold War.

Your churlishness towards America, mate, is ill founded. I suggest you research Mossad. For your priviness to the Cold War, I think you missed the psychological depression the U.S. was in after the capture of the Iranian Embassy.

Odd you should think America an 'empire' having reached its apogee. I first heard that in San Francisco in '67 forty years ago.

We are BTW paying $3-$4 per gallon, while the rest of the world is paying $8, except Brazil which seems infinitly forsighted, than most.

I wonder why Chaves needs three Soviet submarines and 1,000,000 man army. Brazil already lost Bovespa in Bolivia. What could possibly happen.

Well mate, you are only semi cluless, your only half wrong.

I thiink that the U.S. should reinstate the draft and put a million men in the field, if there is a War. According to you and your Pentagon sources this is nothing but spec. Well September is approaching and I suppose we will see how an additional 26,000 men make a difference. The original plan was for 250,000 but fearing public opinion and the press and all it was pared down to 160,000. Wasn't
quite enough. But be psychocybernetic organisms we learn by our mistakes, or die by them.

"but many Yank yobs such as GTY think it can be resolved with "kill them all and let God sort them out".

Bugger the bloody queen, you all became irrelevant sssoooo many years ago, the only ones more pathetic than you are the French. It's funny you would pick out a "back in the day slogan" from the 82nd Airborne, 502nd actually, we wore the slogan on our Army brown t-shirts under our BDU's, I here it is no longer allowed in our politcally correct military.

I met some good mates in the British Army back in the day, now you are all pasty white and soft. Your postings are are all the same old s**t we have heard for years...and you know what, we still don't give a s**t about that little rock of an island you call home. Bunch of child molesting homos you all are.

Yeah, we fight wars, and yes we have taken over 3,000 casualties because we have had/have idiots like Bush and Rumsfeld running it. But I can tell you something about the Marines and soldiers on the ground...they have caused a lot more of the enemy to meet Allah than they have inflicted on us, 10's of thousands. It's our fault because Iraqi men don't have the balls to stand up an Army and police force after 5 years? I am for pulling out know, f**k em all, your right you sanctamonius Brit prick " let them all kill each other and let God/Allah sort them out.

You fags have gone so soft it makes me want to puke. I can't wait to see London burn, or another few hundred killed on another underground bombing, watch you all hem and haw about this and that while you breed extremists willing to cut of your balls and kill your families. You know what music was playing in the subway the day Al Queda blew your innocent civilians up? Another Brit Bites the Dust! You are a corrupt ex-empire. You have all been pissed off since we tossed your tea into Boston Harbor. Get over it, we kicked your ass then and had to save your ass, if not for us you would all be speaking German.

Aug. 12 - Moved to our new home in Canada. I am so excited. It's so beautiful here. The mountains are so majestic. Can hardly wait to see them with snow covering them.
Oct. 14 - Canada -- it is the most beautiful place on earth. The leaves have turned all colors and shades of red and orange. Went for a ride through the beautiful countryside and saw some deer. They are so graceful. Certainly they are the most wonderful animals on earth. This must be paradise. I love it here!
Nov. 11 - Remembrance Day. Deer season starts soon. I can't imagine anyone wanting to kill such a gorgeous creature. Hope it snows soon. I love it here!
Dec. 2 - It snowed last night. Woke up to find everything blanketed with white. It looks like a postcard. We went outside and cleaned the snow off the steps and shoveled the driveway. We had a snowball fight (I won). When the snow plough came by we had to shovel the driveway again. What a beautiful place. I love Canada!
Dec. 12 - More snow last night. The snow plough did his trick again to the driveway. I love it here.
Dec. 19 - More snow last night. Couldn't get out of the driveway to get to work. It's beautiful here but I'm exhausted from shoveling. F#cking snow plough.
Dec. 22 - More of that white s**t fell last night. I've got blisters on my hands and a sore back from shoveling. I think the snow plough hides around the corner until I'm done shoveling the driveway. a*****e.
Dec. 25 - Merry F#cking Christmas! More frigging snow. If I ever get my hands on the sonovabitch who drives the snow plough, I swear I'll kill the bastard. Don't know why they don't use more salt on the roads to melt the f#cking ice.
Dec. 27 - More white s**t last night. Been inside for three days now except for shoveling out the driveway after that snow plough goes through every time. Can't go anywhere, the car's stuck in a mountain of white crap and it is so frigging cold. The weatherman says to expect another 10 inches of the crap again tonight. Do you know how many shovels full of snow 10 inches is?
Dec. 28 - That f#cking weatherman was wrong. We got 34 inches of the crap this time. At this rate it won't melt before summer. The snow plough got stuck up in the road and that bastard came to my door and asked to borrow my shovel. After I told him that I had already
broken six shovels shoveling out all the crap he had pushed into my driveway, I damn near broke my last one over his f#cking head.
Jan. 4 - Finally got out of the house today. Went to the store to get food and on my way back a damned deer ran in front of the car. Did about $3,000 damage to the car. Those beasts should be killed. The bastards are everywhere. Wish the hunters had
exterminated them all last November.
May 3 - Took the car to the garage in town. Would you believe the thing is rusted out from all that salt they put all over the roads.
May 10 - Moved to Florida. I can't imagine why anyone in their right mind would ever want to live in such a God forsaken place as Canada.

This War and it is a declared War is against an Iranian Caliphate.

Lost me there, Ernst. Last time I looked, the Yanks were supporting the Shiites against the Sunnis in Iraq. What "war" against the Iranian Caliphate are you on about, mate?

War and morality are oxymoronic.

Cool. So you agree, then, that the WTC attack was a legitmate act of war? Because that's the logical conclusion of what you just said.

Chess is a metaphor for geo politics, it is not cute.

You are not talking about chess metaphorically. You are claiming that warfare is a GAME with clearcut scores and easily determined winners and losers. That is not a metaphor, old son: that is belief that war is, in fact a spectator sport. As for the "little wars" acting as viagra on the American dick, droopy from Vietnam, you are nuts. The soviet union's destruction was outlined by George Kenan in 1947 (IIRC) with containment theory and that finally paid off. Whether or not you Yanks felt better about yourselves after having beaten up a few essentially helpless countries in your backyard had nothing at all to do with the Soviet Union's failure as a sociopolitical system. Worse of all, old chum, you DAMN WELL KNOW this and are just too pig-headed to accept that you're country does stupid things from time to time, as do ALL countries.

And that's the nut of it, isn't it? Yanks like yourself simply cannot hack the concept that you may not be angels on Earth and God's Own Chosen People, ready to bring the jubilee to humanity.

The battle ship blowing shells the size of volkswagens over Noriega's head did much to raise a sadly depressed poulace.

Give us one bit of rational, objective proof that what you say there is correct. I was IN the U.S. during the Panama "war" and the vast majority of Americans didn't even pay a bit of attention to it. They went about there business as normal. In fact, the only big manifestations of public spirit I saw anywhere were in the demos AGAINST the war. So sorry, mate: you are talking straight out your big, fat Yank arse on this one. Panama did NOTHING for the U.S. spirit and it had NOTHING to do with the Cold War. Period.

I think you missed the psychological depression the U.S. was in after the capture of the Iranian Embassy.

I was living in the U.S. back then, which is probably more than you can say. And whatever the "mood" of the American populace may or may not have been, that government's policy changed not a wit with regards to the USSR. Russia had been on its economic last legs since the '70s. Even if you believe that the U.S. spent them into oblivion, the reforging of American military power began in the 1970s, not after Grenada and Panama. Those two "fights" were simply gratuitous fireworks displays for yobs like yourself who get your rocks off on seeing missiles being fired by your country at other human beings. It. Didn't. Change. American. Policy. One. Bit.

Can't get any clearer than that.

Odd you should think America an 'empire' having reached its apogee. I first heard that in San Francisco in '67 forty years ago

You can make the argument for the highpoint in '67, too. After all, in '67, the U.S. could send over 500,000 troops to Vietnam without any substantial protest and pump billions of dollars into that country's economy. The only thing that kept South Vietnam from not taking off were the Viet Minh. Today, you blokes can barely maintain a sufficient number troops in Iraq without straining your military and you're begging for your European allies or even the UN to shoulder some of the burden. Hell, you get your panties in a tizzie any time Great Britain intimidates that it might have to pull out and leave you holding the bag. What's worse, despite a resistance that's nowhere NEAR as organized as the Viet Minh, you can't even assure essential services to the country's capital city, let alone rebuild its economy. North Korea builds nukes and all you can do is whine. Iran is probably going to get some too, but that's a country that has too much of something like a real military for you to want to take on... Soviet Union or no soviet union, we are today living in a much more multilateral world than in the '60s. Hell, in 1964, you Yanks managed to engineer a coup here in Brazil. Now you can't even take out a pissant like Chaves, even WITH the support of the probable majority of the Venezuelan people.

For the "world's only superpower" and its "global policeman", you boys are sure revealing yourselves to be a bunch of piss artists, aren't you?

Wanna talk 40 years ago? 40 years ago, you were probably one of those a*****es screaming "Death before dishonor in Vietnam". Well, you LOST your bloody chess match there, didn't you and the world didn't come to an end, did it? you were also screaming "fight them in SE Asia or in California" and you didn't have to do any of THAT either. McNamara, the ARCHITECT of U.S. military policy in Vietnam admitted that it was a mistake. Are you SERIOUSLY saying you know more about the U.S.' "global strategy" during that time than the country's Secretary of Defense? Now who's talking above their pay grade?

I thiink that the U.S. should reinstate the draft and put a million men in the field, if there is a War.

Oh, I think so, too. If middle-class piss artists like yourself actually faced the spectre of losing their sons and daughters so that soccer moms can SUV, then I wager the war in Iraq would be wrapped up quite quickly. Know why the PENTAGON doesn't want to reinstate the draft? Because the last time they did it to make profits for corporate America, enlisted men started shooting heroin and their officers in record numbers. The U.S. military knows quite well that it's stuck with a mercenary army now. That, in fact, is another mark of its decline, just as it was for imperial Rome. The LAST thing the power brokers in the American government want right now is a citizens army and you damned well know I'm right.

As for 26,000 more Americans in Iraq (4 years after your glorious president declared the war over, I might add), I'm sure that radicals of all stripes in the region will enjoy the increased target selection.

By the way, find those Iraqui weapons of mass destruction yet?

I'm not a Brit, Monkey Boy, or a Canadian. Guess again.

Yeah, we fight wars, and yes we have taken over 3,000 casualties because we have had/have idiots like Bush and Rumsfeld running it.

Your country has had 3500 dead in Iraq, Sunny Jim and over 25,800 CASUALTIES.

Sheeeeit. Some "American patriot" you are. You don't even have the slightest clue how many Americans have spilled blood in the latest war. You're just a loud mouth attached to a red neck and a fat ass, GTY.

AES says...

May 10 - Moved to Florida. I can't imagine why anyone in their right mind would ever want to live in such a God forsaken place as Canada.

I'm sure the Canadians were very, very happy with that decision.

Do you know that the Portuguese discovered Canada, AES?

It's true. It's in the name. do you know why?

Brazil already lost Bovespa in Bolivia. What could possibly happen.

First, BOVESPA is an acronym for São Paulo stock exchange. I live in São Paulo and I drove down Avenida Paulista today. No Bolivian tanks outside of BOVESPA so what are you talking about, Mr. AES?

Second, oh my, yes. Bolívia is such a threat to Brazil. I lay awake nights worrying about it.
All my friends say we should invade, but we are too terrified because the Bolivian superpower is too much for us. We may need to call in the U.S. after all, that is what hired help is for, right? Americans like dying for oil so they can go die there.

Is this what it is like to be an american, to be so arrogant and paranoid about losing power that one must see a potential threat in every tiny thirdworld nation that does anything you dont want them to do? You people are absolutely crazy! What we will do is let Bolívia sit in its own stew for awhile. That is more than enough to resolve that problem.

Yeh they are in Syria. And I have two sons serving in the Navy one is a submariner and the other is in helos. I don't believe in a mercenary army, as you say it was the downfall of Rome. A country with a citizenry with no obligation to serve in the protection of that country cannot stand.

A draft will stand in a time of a declared war. Not a police action. You asked about the Iranian Caliphate. The war in Iraq was not about iraq it is about Iran, and its proxies.

What was the purpose of the Viet Nam war, the 'domino theory'? In chess the only thing that is of significance is the mate. Many a gambut involves the sacrificing of pieces, advertantly or often inadvertantly. What was the result of the end game of the war with the
Soviets? Everything had everything to do with everything. How much money did the Soviets spend in Viet Nam, or Afghanistan?

What do we want peace, when do we want it now. How naive, 40 years ago I was opposed to the military industrial complex, but 4 years later while being shot at in the Middle East, I was most glad to be in posession of Phantom jets. War is not a game, it ends in death.

You are a defeatest, the trouble with this War is that we have not begun to fight it yet. 3,000 men killed was the tally of a few hours in World War II, but that war was fought, not in the press, but in the killing fields. How many 10,000 died in Iwo Jima, or Guadacanal? We have not begun to fight, to use all the politically incorrect weapons at our disposal. Do you think we are going to allow a nuke to go off in Chicago or New York. It is more likely that the holocaust will be in London. The English are the biggest racists in the Western world. It is you that have brought your deaths to your cities, your impudence, your classcism, your racism. You will reap what you have sown.

It was you and the French that created the crisis that exists, dividing the oil, making up countries arbitrarily, betraying your word. It is your karma we are dealing with. You are far more vulnerable. It is a shorter journey to London from Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt then is it to New York.

The U.S. needs a draft, its population has gotten fat, self indulgent, terminally adolescent. One of the requirements of a draft is a state of total war The most crucial determinant of total war is the widespread, indiscriminate, and deliberate inclusion of civilians as legitimate military targets. Radical Islam is by definition engaged in total war, and so by consequence a draft finds its constitutionality and necessity.

Yes as you say wrapped up quite quickly. Pull our troops out of South Korea, Germany and Japan, that would be a begining, not a big muslin threat in that neck of the woods, and the Germans can certainly take care of themselves.

Is this what it is like to be an american, to be so arrogant and paranoid about losing power that one must see a potential threat in every tiny third world nation that does anything you don't want them to do? You people are absolutely crazy!

I wouldn't have said it better.

War is not a game, it ends in death.

So don't search for wars. I'm sure the US won't get any poorer because of this. And as a plus, you'll cut your problems with the world in 50%. Stop the the war mentality. It's not a good thing in character formation, as americans think. US and the Muslims are the only ones in the world looking for wars.

How naive, 40 years ago I was opposed to the military industrial complex, but 4 years later while being shot at in the Middle East, I was most glad to be in possession of Phantom jets. War is not a game, it ends in death.

Simply. If you weren't in the middle east, you wouldn't being shot. They were probably not about to invade the US, actually, the middle east is very far from the US. That's the only situation a country should get into a war. North Americas (USA) should learn this. As soon as you accept this, your problems with the world would suddenly disappear, like magic. The majority of humanity is not communists or muslin terrorists, and they don't like the US. Guess why...

Apparently the Brasilian air traaffic control system was in chaos again this weekend. Many flights to Europe and the U.S. were cancelled.
"De terça a sexta-feira da semana passada os aeroportos do país viveram o caos por conta da suspensão de vôos e maior espaçamento entre as decolagens. O governo federal atribuiu os problemas a uma "sabotagem" dos controladores de tráfego aéreo do Cindacta-1 (Centro Integrado de Defesa Aérea e Controle do Tráfego Aéreo) e afastou os apontados como líderes do movimento. "
Lula has threatened to jail the controllers causing this. We'll see but the controllers are complaining about antiquated equipment and insufficient training. On another front they've pretty well admitted that there are huge holes in the air traffic control system over the Amazon. More and more it's looking like a cover up of gigantic proportions. Blaming the American pilots was a farce.

It will never change, we start wars and fight because our economy thrives during them. While the housing market softens, what keeps the economy going? The billions upon billions of dollars feeding the machine. Oil is heading down again, the economy continues to buzz right along. While our poorest and under educated fight for what they think is a noble cause.

The disrespect on this site for our soldiers in harms way is sickining, even those choosing to cheer Al Queda and their actions forgetting that 350 children died and many Brazilians on 9/11. It's OK, I undertsand the anger, we are angry too, only a very small percentage of American's support our mess in the middle east, but cheering the fact that kids are dieing in double digits everyday is sick and moronic.

This war will be over soon, another loss and black eye for America and it's military, we seem to forget that basic military strategy calls for having an exit plan. This administration has brought shame and death to American families, I understand the world's anger. What will happen when we pull out, can we allow Isreal to fend for herself, Iran to have a nuke capability? I really don't know the answer, the future looks frightening. The amazing part is how many people are disengaged from the war, soccer moms taking their kids to practice, business people who's kids would never join the military and our youth who have no clue of geopolitics, just want to plug in thier Ipods and tune out.

The postings have gotten very heated, American's defending our mistakes and non-Americans wishing us death. It's a sad state indeed. In fact sad enough that I probably will not be back to this website, which seems to have some pretty good articles about Brazil and it's politics. My wife is from Rio, I enjoy my visits, I have never been made to feel uncomfortable there, I have had great political discussions and I have enjoyed them, but never seen this much hate.

This just came out on Yahoo News and is directly related to the original article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070623/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/south_america_unsafe_flights

What self-indulgent piffle! This must rank up there with Getulio Vargas' 'Carta Testemunha' - haha. Your cause, one I happen to find quite noble, is spoilt by such poor journalism...

'Simply. If you weren't in the middle east, you wouldn't being shot' I was doing graduate work in the Negev.

It is like talking to the wind. The withdrawl from S. Korea, Japan, Germany of 250,000 troops and puting them into the conflict.

Let N. Korea invade S. Korea with its 'Chavezian' million man army and nuclear arms.

Let China kill Taiwan.

You want saliency in three hundred words or less when it is a tome of enormous intricacy. You are dead wrong in your perception. What Iranian Caliphate, you say? What problem will there be with S. America? It may take decades, but you will most assuredly find out.

Yes I would like to see Iraq in the rear view mirror, with a hugh nuclear cloud rising in it. Iran is building a nuclear weapon. Its purpose is to control, the Middle East, to control the economy of the world.

You dont believe this is true. It is like talking to Copernicus. Pity. You cannot see it, but you are heading for a cliff.

You're view is from the ground not from space. A thing may look quite different than it appears on the ground.

You are a small petty people,boorish ill mannered, that booed the American ambasador off the stage of the Yo Yo Ma Concert, Friday, at the National Theater in Rio, as he was introducting Yo Yo Ma. The cry came from the cheap seats in the upper balconies, where the 'once were' people sat, it was filled with such vitriole and poison. The govenor of Rio was there. Anti Americanism is alive and well in Rio de Janeiro. You are boors, self distructive, you have no control over your government, your politics, your judicial system, your police force, your infrastructure, your disparity of poor, your disease, or your air space. But you have the delusion that you know anything of the world. Geo politics, hah, you are in need of a conlonoscopy and a colonectomy for you have tumors growing in your ass and it is affecting your thinking. You have cancer and you dont know it.

Yeh they are in Syria. And I have two sons serving in the Navy one is a submariner and the other is in helos.

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Big U.S. military presence in Syria these days, I take. And if the U.S. had a citizens army, only volunteers would get in the Navy. The Navy itself admitted in its "From the Sea..." blue book in 1999 that the chance of its ships - and especially its subs - getting involved in any nasty combats over the next century is about equal to the chance of Fox running a politically unbiased news program. So if the draft ever came back, the Navy - and particularly the submarine branch - will most likely be like the National Guard in Vietnam: a refuge for "patriotic" middle class boys who don't want to risk getting shot at on their way up the career ladder.

You asked about the Iranian Caliphate. The war in Iraq was not about iraq it is about Iran, and its proxies.

Tell me, AES, do you loony right wing Yank ideologues ever have trouble with your conscience when you tell these whoppers, or has lying to yourself and the world now become such second nature that you no longer notice when you do it? Because you're the kind of guy who was saying "the war is all about Iraq's WMDs" 4 years ago. Then you switched to "It's all about bringing democracy to Iraq". That lie then got changed to "it's all about cleaning up the mess we made and bringing stability to Iraq". Now it's all about Iran, after all?

Please. That kind of blather might go down well with your buddies over beer. It might be sold to the average American idiot who has the historical attention spam of a may fly. But don't lay no boogie-woogie on the king of rock and roll, son. We both know that this war isn't about anything ideological at all. It's about oil, pure and simple.

In chess the only thing that is of significance is the mate.

Here you go with your idiot's view that war is a game. Son, the American government did not "sacrifice" Vietnam to some higher strategic cause. It really, truly believed it could win that one and boys like you believed that pack of lies too, back in the day. So please quit it with this orwellian editting of history in ortder to make it fit today's ideological needs. I'd expect that sort of cheap idiocy from a stalinist, not from someone who claims he believes in capitalism and democracy.

You are a defeatest, the trouble with this War is that we have not begun to fight it yet. 3,000 men killed was the tally of a few hours in World War II, but that war was fought, not in the press, but in the killing fields.

Iraq is no totalitarian superpower that needs to be defeated at all costs. And what is it with you so-called patriots who always cite WWII numbers as if they made today's death toll out to be nothing? Aren't you the "support our troops" crowd? And here you're acting as if today's dead are somehow LESS dead simply because their numbers don't add up to Tarawa.

I have news for you, AES: the 12th SS HitlerJugend Panzer Division isn't fighting in Iraq. It ain't that kind of war and it can't be one or lost by adding up body counts. Your logic is simply perverse and ultimately demeans the sacrifice of American lives in Iraq. So WHEN would enough enough, AES? When the death toll reaches 10k? 50k? When someone plants an A-bomb next to a U.S. base or two? Never?

"Defeatism" is simply a woprd used by people who have no rational strategic plan but who can't bring themselves to admit that fact. If you had the facts and strategy on your side, you simply wouldn't be reduced to pouting about "defeatism", would you?

And while I'm sure it would make you happy if I were a Brit, rest assured, I am not.

The U.S. needs a draft, its population has gotten fat, self indulgent, terminally adolescent.

Don't hold your breath, John Wayne. For those very reasons, you're not going to get your citizens army. Enlistment is dropping off, the war is becoming ever more unpopular and you think that the Pentagon is going to risk blunting its military edge by the forced recruiting of people who HATE the military life? Get real. Ain't gonna happen, though I wish it would. It would probably cause a political and cultural revolution in the U.S. bigger than the one caused by Vietnam.

How naive, 40 years ago I was opposed to the military industrial complex, but 4 years later while being shot at in the Middle East, I was most glad to be in posession of Phantom jets.

BtW, perhaps you can explain to us just HOW a U.S. service man was being shot at in the Mideast back in 1964? Were you in the Israeli Army or what?

You're view is from the ground not from space. A thing may look quite different than it appears on the ground.

Puh-leez.

This from the man who claims that he wants to nuke Iran off the face of the map, kill - what - 30 million people or so in the name of cheap gas prices?

Son, you haven't a clue as to what a rational military strategy is all about and I highly doubt you are the Vietnam-era vet you claim to be. I've met MANY vietnam vets in my life and not a single one of them EVER confused the "middle east" with the "far east".

My best guess is that you are the persona of some 20-30 year old American kid, raised on Rambo and Top Gun, who couldn't find his ass with both hands and a flashlight, let alone Vietnam on a map.

I guess it's my week for falling for trolls. First GTY and now AES. The only wonder I have is why these American Walter Mitty types always portray themselves as "Vietnam vets" without even learning the basics about that war or country? I mean, Wikipedia is easy to use, right?

Why do you bleeding heart Yanks get all worked out of shape when it's someone disrespecting your dead, but when it's your countrymen talking about mass murder and genocide ("Let's nuke Iran! Kill 'em all and let God sort them out") you don't say a single word?

Your right of course, anyone who advocates mass murder and genocide are fanatics and ill informed. But if you challenge them; you will get the same retoric, so why bother. The situation in the middle east is centuries old and extremley complex, making statements like "nuke em all" are simplistic at best, racist at the worst. But we can not turn our heads on people that would like to do us harm.

Even though it seems most people on this site hate American's; we do have a responsibility to defend ourselves. Unfortunatley, our current administration and congress have made a mess of things and the situation is even more dire and dangerous. We have put ourselves in the position of classic "finger in the dike". More holes than we can possibly fill. What a mess, with no easy way out, we lack the leadership and courage of the past, there are no more JFK's, Truman's or even Regan's, what we have now are political hacks with little spine or backbone, if they had any, they never would have let an idiot Governer from Texas get is into the mess we are in.

Still it is troubling when you and others on the site actually promote the death and destruction of our brave young men and women in uniform. The choose to serve, many of them now question the war, but it is their duty to follow orders, their deaths are tragic and one day Mr. Bush and his cronies will be called upon to answer for them, if not by men, then by God. Those that mock their deaths will have to answer to the same.

You f**king twit, I was not in Nam, I served in the ANG in '63, before the draft before Nam. I did graduate work in the Negev between '71-73. I was out of the service then. I had payed my military dues to the U.S. at that point.

"Son, you haven't a clue as to what a rational military strategy is all about and I highly doubt you are the Vietnam-era vet you claim to be. I've met MANY vietnam vets in my life and not a single one of them EVER confused the "middle east" with the "far east". What about Pakistan Charlie? and Afghanistan and China? We met China in Viet Nam.

You are so confused that you dont connect the Balfour Declaration with the French in Indo China, you dont connect World War1 with Al Qaida. You dont connect Hezbolah, Syria, Hammas, Al Qaida with Iran. You dont connect Iran with arming Al Qaida in Afghanistan. You dont connect anything with anything. Everything exists separately in a vacuum, with you. There is no need to nuke Iran, take out their single refinery. Iranians are disatisfied on a multitude of levels with this theocracy.
You underestimate the Israeli's and the U.S. Iran will not achieve nuclear armament unless they buy them. The tactics necessary to deal with Iran exist.
Israel is not concerned with the price of gas, but with the threat of extermination by Amadinajad. Out of necessity they will do what is necessary to prevent that event.

"the 12th SS HitlerJugend Panzer Division isn't fighting in Iraq", you are an idiot savant, it was eliminated in Iraq I. Sadam was kept in power as a buffer to Iran as it was determined that they would move to fill the vacuum. In fact that is what they are doing.


War is not about popularity 'as the war is becoming ever more unpopular' The U.S. was attacked on 9-11 3,000 non combatants dead, Kobar Towers, U.S.S. Kole, African Embassies, IndoChina where Austrailians were butchered, mate. Enough was enough. Do you think that what you read in the press or hear and see in the media is true? What is your clearance mate? I think without being part of a Top Secret Clearance, you really have no idea, you have conjecture, but you never tell your enemy anything. The 'blathering' press. Now there is a source. We will see the truths of your conjectures.

No I dont think your British, but maybe the Australian or at least Canadian. And yes every life is precious. The Muslims only respect power, they mistake kindness for weakness. Chop the head off of the 'infidel' on T.V., blow up 100 students, and the American press will make it into such a horror show that the U.S. will retreat. The presumption is false.
You keep using the term drinking beer with your mates. I prefer, Bordeaux, Cognac, and Scotch, so the only two countries left with a penchant for beer, the use of the word Yanks, and mate are either Australia or Canada. There was an Australian that was particularly vitriolic, so I would conjecture that it be you. I always preferred New Zealanders to the Aussies, they were more kind, more rural, less crude. Do you know Newt Gingrich? I hope you come to.
www.newt.org/

MAC Nuts Petrobras, not Bovespa it is Iran in Syria not the U.S. you bloody twit.

Just sounds to me like you can't get your stories straight. I mean, if I had kids in the military, I'd sure as hell know where they were. You apparently don't. If I had fought in a war, I'd know were I'd fought. At least on which continent. You apparently have trouble even remembering that.

What about Pakistan Charlie? and Afghanistan and China? We met China in Viet Nam.

Put down the bowl, AES. The U.S. wasn't fighting in Pakistan or Afganistan in the 1970s, which was the time period when your supposed "service" in the "mideast" came up. And as for China, that's in the Far East, too, so I can't for the life of me figure out why you're bringing it up now. Perhaps it's a case of "if you can't baffle them with your brilliance (in lying about who you are, in this case), blind them with your bulls**t"? Sure looks that way to me right now. As for the Chinese in Vietnam, the Chinese and the Vietnamese HATE each other. They've had SEVERAL wars. You seem to be cloudy on which communist power was the main backer of Vietnam. Not a good thing for a man who claims to know the "secret history" of warfare of the last 50 years.

You dont connect Iran with arming Al Qaida in Afghanistan.... You dont connect anything with anything.

Got news for you, buddy: Iran HATED the Taliban and the peoples who gave more arms than anyone else to Al Quaeda were the United States and their buddies, the Saudis. Fact, like it or not.

As for connecting the dots and seeing patterns, you're beginning to sound like a right-wing version of the nutsos who claimed the CIA bombed the WTC, the kind of guy who sees Jesus in his morning bacon grease. You airily dismiss linkages for which there is excellent, unimpeachable proof and start blathering on about secret Iranian funding for Quaeda in Afganistan and the Great Chinese Army which faced the U.S. in Vietnam. Hell, AES, why don't you just have done with it and weave the Illuminati and the Elders of Zion into your little fever world while you're at it?

"the 12th SS HitlerJugend Panzer Division isn't fighting in Iraq", you are an idiot savant, it was eliminated in Iraq I.

I'm an idiot? Meanwhile, you're claiming that the 12th SS Panzer Division (a Nazi WWII outfit) was "eliminated in Iraq", that your kids are on duty in the U.S. Army in Syria (or is it Iran now), that Vietnam is part of the Middle East, as is China... Ooooooohkay, AES. I'm hip. Let me guess: you believe that Sadam Hussein stole the Arc of the Covenant or some such thing and brought the SS back from the dead to fight against the U.S. in the Iraqi desert? Is that it?

Jeezis, AES, you REALLY need to lay off the drugs. They'll turn your brain to tapioca in no time flat.

What is your clearance mate? I think without being part of a Top Secret Clearance, you really have no idea, you have conjecture, but you never tell your enemy anything

And meanwhile you are so well informed that you can't even make up your mind about which countries are in the Middle East or where the U.S. Army was fighting in the 1960s or even where your kids are stationed. Look, AES, I'll will cheerfully admit to not knowing everything, but I think it's plain for all to see that you're having a difficult time even figuring out what decade you're in and which continent you're on. So when it comes down to believing your looney toon conspiracy theories about "secret U.S. strategies" in the "great Global Chess Game" or believing the massive amounts of evidence that are in the public record for anyone to see, I'll go with the public record every time - as will most people I suspect.

You keep using the term drinking beer with your mates. I prefer, Bordeaux, Cognac, and Scotch, so the only two countries left with a penchant for beer, the use of the word Yanks, and mate are either Australia or Canada.

And here you are, a man who considers himself to be a s**t-hot armchair intelligence analyst and the very concept that a person might be intentionally smearing his accent just doesn't register with you, does it? Yeah, Sunny Jim: you really hooked into to what's what on Planet Earth, ain't you? YOU use Britisms like "bloody twit" and yet you can't seem to wrap you're wee head around the fact that anyone else on Earth who can write English can use them just as well.

See any black helicopters lately, AES, or are the raving Muslim hoardes now your preferred paranoid delusion?

Gingrich? Isn't he a bad science fiction writer?

Gingrich? Isn't he a bad science fiction writer?

He is as bad as our Renan Calheiros, my friend.Both are science fiction writers, "enganando o povo"

As for the Chinese in Vietnam, the Chinese and the Vietnamese HATE each other.


In 1965, US air strikes were ordered against North Vietnam. By late 1965, such air strikes became part and parcel to daily activities of those stationed in Vietnam. But US forces were not permitted to attack some targets for fear of Chinese retaliation. The perceived danger from Communist China influenced President Johnson's choice of means for ensuring the survival of a South Vietnam independent of the North. In 1950, when United Nations forces threatened to overrun North Korea, China had come to the aid of its Communist neighbor. As the Vietnam War intensified in 1965 and 1966, so, too, did the Chinese commitment to the survival of North Vietnam. By the spring of the latter year, some 50,000 Chinese troops served in North Vietnam, a total that may have tripled before China began to withdraw its forces in 1968. Until President Johnson limited ROLLING THUNDER to southern North Vietnam, effective April 1, 1968, China gave refuge to North Vietnamese fighters when airfields in the North came under aerial attack, and reports surfaced of Chinese pilots flying North Vietnamese interceptors. During this period of involvement, China made no secret of its sympathy for the Hanoi government; prudence therefore required that the Johnson administration consider the possibility of further Chinese intervention

http://www.globalsecurity.org/...ietnam.htm

Actually, João, that was me, Macunaima, pirating Aninha's handle there, as I'm pirating Gty's now. I just wanted to make a point about AES' assine presumptions regarding my identity, nationality and etc.

So in other words, then, the Chinese were gone even before Tet was launched and they took no active part in combat ops against the U.S. Furthermore, that same source, http://www.globalsecurity.org/...etnam.htm, claims that Kissinger's raproachment with China didn't change the war situation in Vietnam in the U.S.' favor. So yes, while China did give Vietnam some aid in the early part of the war, by the time the U.S. had got up to 500,000 troops in Vietnam, it was not much of a factor. Proof of this can be seen in the fact that Vietnam kicked the U.S. out even AFTER rapproachment with China and that right after, the country was invaded by the Chinese themselves.

So nice try, Gty, but that little blurb there doesn't support AES' allegation that the U.S."fought China" in Vietnam in the slightest.

By the way, João (Macunaima here once again), once Gingrich got canned from Congress and had to pay 300,000 bucks in fines for ethics violations, he did indeed hire a ghost writer and try to make a living as a sci-fi writer, Really bad sci-fi, too, but it's worth reading in order to understand what a fine line there is between fantasy and reality for right wing idiots like the newt and his followers.

After the death of Stalin, relations between the Soviet Union and China began to deteriorate. Mao Zedong believed the new Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev had made a serious error in his Secret Speech denouncing Stalin, and criticized the Soviet Union's interpretation of Marxism-Leninism, in particular Khrushchev's support for peaceful co-existence. This led to increasingly hostile relations, and eventually the Sino-Soviet Split. Until Khrushchev was deposed in late 1964, North Vietnam supported China in the dispute, mainly as a result of China's support for its re-unification policy, whereas the Soviet Union was unenthusiastic. From early 1965 onwards, Vietnamese communists drifted towards the Soviet Union as now both the Soviet Union and China supplied North Vietnam during their war against South Vietnam and the United States.

The Soviets welcomed this change, seeing Vietnam as a way to demonstrate that they were the "real power" behind communism in the Far East. In this respect, the United States government's fear of the domino effect may have been justified, as the Soviets were attempting to attract countries to them. The US viewed Soviet actions as attempts to foster a growing chain of Communist expansion; these actions, though, were mainly motivated by Soviet desires to isolate the PRC.

To the PRC, the Soviet-Vietnamese relationship was a disturbing development. It seemed to them that the Soviets were trying to encircle China.

The PRC started talks with the USA in the mid 1970s, culminating in high level meetings with Henry Kissinger and later Richard Nixon. These meetings contributed to a PRC shift toward the American faction. Meanwhile, the PRC also supported the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. The PRC supported Pol Pot's movement for ideological reasons—the Khmer Rouge's philosophy was a radical variant of Maoism—and from fear that a unified Vietnam, in alliance with the Soviet Union, would dominate Indochina.

Certainly not AES' view of a monolithic communist block controlled by remote control from a secret bunker under the Kremlin, is it?

I am the friendly neighborhood secret agent. Never ever try to pass on the disinfo to me. I know your nationality

You are getting to be as bad as that GTY,another satanic devil.Hope he is not under the influence of Bloody Mary´s

'Got news for you, buddy: Iran HATED the Taliban and the peoples who gave more arms than anyone else to Al Quaeda were the United States and their buddies, the Saudis.' This was '79-'89


June 13, 2007, Paris
CBS/AP) The United States has "irrefutable" evidence that Iran is transferring weapons to the Taliban in Afghanistan, with the knowledge of the Iranian government, and NATO has intercepted some of the shipments, a senior U.S. diplomat said Wednesday.

"There's irrefutable evidence the Iranians are now doing this," said Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns on CNN. "It's certainly coming from the government of Iran. It's coming from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard corps command, which is a basic unit of the Iranian government."

Speaking separately to The Associated Press, Burns also said that NATO needs to act to stop the shipments. The Iran-Afghanistan frontier is "a very long border. But the Iranians need to know that we are there and that we're going to oppose this."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories...1708.shtml

WASHINGTON – The threat posed to the national security of the United States by Iran was likened only to the one posed by Nazi Germany in the 1930s, by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who suggested Tehran could be planning for a pre-emptive nuclear electromagnetic pulse attack on America that would turn a third or more of the country "back to a 19th century level of development


He said the "extraordinary challenge that the current regime in Iran poses to the safety of the United States" requires "extraordinary measures to meet it."

"Not since the failure of the League of Nations in the 1930s to confront the aggression of the dictatorships in Japan, Italy and Germany have we seen the willful avoidance of reality which is now underway with regard to Iran," said Gingrich. "There are lessons to be learned from the 1930s and those lessons apply directly to the current government of Iran."

Gingrich pointed with alarm at a report first published in G2 Bulletin that Iran had tested the firing of ballistic missiles from a merchant ship in which warheads were detonated in midair over the Caspian Sea rather than at a land or sea target. National security experts and scientists commissioned by Congress to study the threat of electromagnetic pulse attacks on the U.S. concluded that Iran was preparing for just such a scenario. So does Gingrich.

"In short, a country with a track record of carrying out its murderous ideology may soon have the capability to deliver on its publicly declared and unambiguously stated intentions to inflict mortal harm on the United States on a massive scale," warned Gingrich last Tuesday at the hearing of the Federal Financial Management, Government Information and International Security Subcommittee chaired by Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla. "A nuclear tipped intermediate-range Iranian missile launched from a merchant ship off the coast of the United States could do just that. That, or Iran could simply supply its terrorist handmaidens with a small scale nuclear device to use against U.S. targets here at home or abroad."

The threat is compounded by recent disclosures by the International Atomic Energy Agency that Iran is in "non-compliance" with its treaty obligations against developing nuclear weapons.

Gingrich concluded that:


Iran is the most dangerous regime in the world and the "single most urgent threat to American national security."
in which the United States and its allies are unavoidably engaged, and in which the U.S. has active campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan."


One key to preventing or degrading the Iranian nuclear threat is persuading Russia to stop helping Tehran.

The U.S. has no option but to seek regime change in Iran.
Gingrich said there are reasons to believe Iran "is testing the capability to launch a surprise attack on the United States from a merchant ship of our coasts."

"An attack by a single Iranian nuclear missile could have a catastrophic impact on the United States by causing an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) over a portion of the country," he said. "Such an attack could quickly turn a third or more of the United States back to a 19th century level of development. Electrical transformers and switching stations would fall. Without electricity, hospitals would fails, water and sewage services would fail, gas stations would be unable to provide petroleum, trucks would not be able to distribute food supplies, and essential services would rapidly disintegrate."

Gingrich said "this is not idle speculation, but taken from the consensus findings of nine distinguished scientists who authored the Report of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack, which was delivered to the Congress on June 22, 2004, the same day the 9-11 commission report was published."

Gingrich pointed out that such a sneak attack – especially if launched from a merchant ship at sea – could have the added benefit of deniability by Iran.

"Contemplating an EMP threat makes more troubling reports that certain Iranian missile tests resulted in missiles that have detonated in flight at or near apogee, which the Iranian press has reported as successful events," explained Gingrich. "Normally, it would be expected that the ability to target specific locations would be the standard for success for ballistic tests. However, if the ability to launch an EMP attack was being tested, detonation at apogee would be the measure of testing success. As noted by the EMP commission, a country with limited nuclear capabilities and few choices as to delivery platforms has only a few options to deliver a deadly blow. An EMP attack would be on such st http://www.worldnetdaily.com/n...E_ID=47501

Newt is old news...now Ann Coulter, she is something! As hot as they come, smart and fearless. Boy, would I love to have a Bloody Mary with ere.

Hey Joao, I just had a milestone birthday this weekend. My wife gave me a VERY nice present, I am not going to be specific, but it involved one her hottest friends!

Newt is old news...now Ann Coulter, she is something! As hot as they come, smart and fearless. Boy, would I love to have a Bloody Mary with her.

Hey Joao, I just had a milestone birthday this weekend. My wife gave me a VERY nice present, I am not going to be specific, but it involved one her hottest friends! Whosays money can't buy happiness.

Hey Joao, I just had a milestone birthday this weekend

My congrats and many happy returns.

My wife gave me a VERY nice present, I am not going to be specific, but it involved one her hottest friends

Tell us all about it.It is not in your nature to hide such things from your friends and foes alike.

Boy, would I love to have a Bloody Mary with her.

Just a Bloody Mary,you lecher?

What? What? What? Com-on GTY tell us, we're all curious as sin. Did the new hummer come by way of one of the wife's hottie friends sitting in the drivers seat?? Anyway, congrats on your wife having both the wherewithall and desire to give you something special for your BD. Any chance there's a video to be posted of the big event? Even with this prehistoric landline connection I'd take the time to download that one.

What? What? What? Com-on GTY tell us, we're all curious as sin. Did the new hummer come by way of one of the wife's hottie friends sitting in the drivers seat?? Anyway, congrats on your wife having both the wherewithall and desire to give you something special for your BD. Any chance there's a video to be posted of the big event?

Simpleton,a friend in need is a friend indeed. I have gone into investigative reporting after reading GTY´s comments. This guy is a really motivating factor. We as well as the rest of the readers want a complete report on his un-hispanic-american activities during his birthday party. We shall not rest until we discover the complete truth,only the truth and nothing but the truth.

And Simpleton, you be beware of those Nisseis ,Sanseis and Honseis.

"What? What? What? Com-on GTY tell us, we're all curious as sin. Did the new hummer come by way of one of the wife's hottie friends sitting in the drivers seat?? Anyway, congrats on your wife having both the wherewithall and desire to give you something special for your BD. Any chance there's a video to be posted of the big event? Even with this prehistoric landline connection I'd take the time to download that one. "

Sorry man...no video, to spontainiuos...if I would have had some hint...well perhaps, but for "personal use only". Brazilian women are spectacular, all, but mostly my young bronze Carioca wife who for some reason stays around with a bum like me...I don't get it, but who am I to ask?

The United States has "irrefutable" evidence that Iran is transferring weapons to the Taliban in Afghanistan, with the knowledge of the Iranian government, and NATO has intercepted some of the shipments, a senior U.S. diplomat said Wednesday.

And Lord knows that the U.S. would NEVER lie about something like that. I mean, look at all those thousands of WMDs they found in Iraq after showing their "irrefutable proof" that they existed. Or the "irrefutable proof" that North Vietnam attacked the Maddox back in the '60s (even McNamara now believes nothing might have actually occurred).

If this proof is so "irrefutable", AES, why don't they bring it out in the open where everyone can see it?

Newt Gingrich, btw, is hardly what any rational person would consider to be an objective source. The man was practically run out of Congress on a rail after conducting one of the most inflamatory and irresponsible political careers in livin memory. And now he's sniffing around born-again Christian loons to boot. When he's not writing bad sci-fi, that is.

Newt Gingrich: the Michael Moore of the right. Yeah, there's a man we can trust, one with no particular political axe to grind.

Newt is old news...now Ann Coulter, she is something! As hot as they come, smart and fearless. Boy, would I love to have a Bloody Mary with her.

The above comment was made by our friend GTY

Would appreciate your comments on this Ann Coulter!

Nizar Najoef, a Syrian journalist who recently defected from Syria to Western Europe and is known for bravely challenging the Syrian regime, said in a letter Monday, January 5, to Dutch newspaper “De Telegraaf,” that he knows the three sites where Iraq’s WMD are kept. The storage places are:

1. Tunnels dug under the town of al-Baida near the city of Hama in northern Syria. These tunnels are an integral part of an underground factory, built by the North Koreans, for producing Syrian Scud missiles. Iraqi chemical weapons and long-range missiles are stored in these tunnels.

2. The village of Tal Snan, north of the town of Salamija, where there is a big Syrian airforce camp. Vital parts of Iraq’s WMD are stored there.

3. The city of Sjinsjar on the Syrian border with the Lebanon, south of the city Homs.

Najoef writes that the transfer of Iraqi WMD to Syria was organized by the commanders of Saddam Hussein’s Special Republican Guard, including General Shalish, with the help of Assif Shoakat , Bashar Assad’s cousin. Shoakat is the CEO of Bhaha, an import/export company owned by the Assad family.

In February 2003, a month before America’s invasion in Iraq, DEBKAfile and DEBKA-Net-Weekly were the only media to report the movement of Iraqi WMD, the efforts to bring them from Iraq to Syria, and the personal involvement of Bashar Assad and his family in the operation.

Najoef, who has won prizes for journalistic integrity, says he wrote his letter because he has terminal cancer.

Ethics Committee Drops Last of 84 Charges Against Gingrich
By Curt Anderson
Associated Press
Sunday, October 11, 1998; Page A13

The House ethics committee dropped the three remaining ethics charges against Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) yesterday, despite finding that Gingrich repeatedly violated one rule by using a political consultant to develop the Republican legislative agenda.

The ethics panel decided to take no further action because there is no evidence that "Rule 45" violations are continuing in the speaker's office, a post Gingrich has held since 1995. Consultant Jeffrey Eisenach's work took place while Gingrich was the GOP minority whip in 1990-91.

Gingrich was elected speaker after Republicans took control of the House.

"The committee believes you have been adequately informed and cautioned on Rule 45 issues and anticipates full compliance in the future," said Rep. James V. Hansen (R-Utah), the panel's chairman, and Rep. Howard L. Berman (D-Calif.) in a letter to Gingrich.

The committee decision came near the close of the House session as lawmakers hurried to clear languishing business and return to their districts to campaign for next month's election.

Eisenach was a paid consultant to GOPAC, a Republican political group formerly chaired by Gingrich, according to the letter.

Gingrich is paying $300,000 for the costs of an ethics committee investigation after admitting last year he made inaccurate statements during a lengthy probe into Democratic allegations that he misused tax-exempt donations. Gingrich denied the charges but submitted to a reprimand by the House.

In a brief interview, Gingrich said he felt a "big sense of relief" now that the four-year investigation is over.

"It ends a chapter. Let's go on to other things," he said.

The speaker's office issued a statement noting that yesterday's dismissal of the last three charges means that 83 of the 84 ethics allegations filed by Democrats have been dropped.

The Committee on Standards of Official Conduct, as the ethics panel is formally known, also decided to defer to a federal judge's decision to dismiss an allegation that GOPAC improperly subsidized Gingrich's 1990 reelection campaign.

U.S. District Judge Louis F. Oberdorfer in 1996 threw out a Federal Elections Commission lawsuit contending that GOPAC broke election laws by assisting federal candidates and not making its donor lists and spending reports public.

The ethics panel was "persuaded by the court's findings" that the laws were not violated, Hansen and Berman wrote.

"It appears to us that to the extent that GOPAC was exonerated by the court, you are by implication exonerated as well," they wrote to Gingrich.

A third allegation that Gingrich benefited personally from $250,000 in GOPAC "Newt Support" and should have reported it as income for federal tax purposes was also dropped by the ethics committee for lack of evidence

ra·tion·al(rsh-nl)
adj.
1. Having or exercising the ability to reason.
2. Of sound mind; sane.
3. Consistent with or based on reason; logical: rational behavior. See Synonyms at logical.

"Gty, my family could probably buy and sell yours. I also do not think that people who are doing well in life need to brag about what they own. That is a very low class attribute. "

You are probably right, my parents came from very humble beginnings, my brother and I worked hard to get where we are. That is the wonderful thing about the US. The question is "can you buy me?", or is all your money old money from mommy and daddy, typical of Brazilian elite.

Having taught English at university I can assure you that he is quintiscentially rational, and his intelligence seems only disputed by you.
BTY he was elected for and 11th term but chose to step down.


Nonfiction
The Government's Role in Solving Societal Problems. Associated Faculty Press, Incorporated. January 1982 ISBN 0-86733-026-0
Window of Opportunity. Tom Doherty Associates, December 1985. ISBN 0-312-93923-X
Contract with America (co-editor). Times Books, December 1994. ISBN 0-8129-2586-6
Restoring the Dream. Times Books, May 1995. ISBN 0-8129-2666-8
Quotations from Speaker Newt. Workman Publishing Company, Inc., July 1995. ISBN 0-7611-0092-X
To Renew America. Farrar Straus & Giroux, July 1996. ISBN 0-06-109539-7
Lessons Learned The Hard Way. HarperCollins Publishers, May 1998 ISBN 0-06-019106-6
Presidential Determination Regarding Certification of the Thirty-Two Major Illicit Narcotics Producing and Transit Countries. DIANE Publishing Company, September 1999. ISBN 0-7881-3186-9
Saving Lives and Saving Money. Alexis de Tocqueville Institution, April 2003. ISBN 0-9705485-4-0
Winning the Future. Regnery Publishing, January 2005. ISBN 0-89526-042-5
Rediscovering God in America: Reflections on the Role of Faith in Our Nation's History and Future. Integrity Publishers, October 2006. ISBN 1-59145-482-4
"A Contract with the Earth," Johns Hopkins Press, Due out in November 1, 2007.

Sorry, man. Newt is a fool. Only a fool - or an exceptionally unethical man - would get married thrice, divorced twice and blabber on in public about "family values". After discussing divorce with his first wife while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer. Only a fool - or an extremely unethical man - would try to impeac h the president of the U.S. for lying about an extramarital affair when he himself has had and lied about extra-marital affairs. Gingrich did not "pay 300,000 dollars", he was SANCTIONED by the House Ethics Committee for that sum. Look the word "sanction" up in your dictionary, along with "rational". Finally, while Gingrich may have resigned from his post, that was after clocking an alltime low job approval rating among the American public of 28% and largely being the cause behind the GOP's 1998 electoral disaster.

He didn't exactly leave the Congress being hailed as an all-American statesman gty/aes. The guy's a demagogue, a panderer to special interests and a right-wing loon. Period.

Since he's left the congress, he's spent a good portion of his time writing extremely bad science fiction. An appropriate career for a man whose link to reality was always tenuous at best.

You are probably right, my parents came from very humble beginnings, my brother and I worked hard to get where we are.

I liked this sentence. Not many people are willing to admit the fact. Humble beginnings,you two macho brothers working hard to get somewhere.Will make a terrific Novela. For a Chemical Engineer, you are doing extremely well as a writer.Thinking again, in spite of being a M.D., Michael Crighton became a millinonaire writing books. I think you have plenty of potential for being a writer too!

Since he's left the congress, he's spent a good portion of his time writing extremely bad science fiction. An appropriate career for a man whose link to reality was always tenuous at best.

What is the name of the book?

"He didn't exactly leave the Congress being hailed as an all-American statesman gty/aes. The guy's a demagogue, a panderer to special interests and a right-wing loon. Period. "

You have it wrong. I am no fan of Gingrich, either then or now. But he is no fool. I has emerged as a Phoneix from the ashes and is making big bucks writting, speaking and doing the talk show pundit rounds.

Joao,

Newt is a writer, but I am unaware of any science fiction, he writes about American history. I know he wrote a book called Gettysburg, about our Civil War, I think he has written several more. Punch his name into Amazon.

Gingrich is paying $300,000 for the costs of an ethics committee investigation after admitting last year he made inaccurate statements. Kind of like you. Well three affairs, Clinton had twelve and a blow job in the Oval Office, kind of like getting a blow job in the Vatican.
But Clinton is an idiot compared to Gingrich, he couldn't write his way out of a fortune cookie.

He is a fiscal conservative and under the Regan administration changed the economic history over the past quarter century. But to someone like you what's a few trillion dollars in increased revenues and lowered taxes.

They laughed at 'trickle down economics' all the way to the bank of america.

Well old sport the sci fi is like hi fi its in your head.

Married three times and talking about family values, what's the problem, at least he had the decency to get a divorce, Clinton continued disrespecting his wife. He is the whoring sort of husband that does not have the wit to not get caught with is phallus down some Interns throat.

Just because your a liar doesn't mean your not speaking the truth. The problem of course for someone like you is determing truth. Einstein was a philanderer didn't negate he theory of relativity. Get it. And as to low ratings, this Congress has the lowest rating in the history of the United States, 19%.

Just the facts maam, just the facts.

I know he wrote a book called Gettysburg, about our Civil War, I think he has written several more. Punch his name into Amazon.

I am having some problems with this thread,but shall punch into Amazon. But if you read Macunaima´s postings carefully (one of them addressed to me), he did mention that Newt used a Ghost writer to publish the Sci-Fi fiction. So, it wont show up in Amazon. That is the reason, I am waiting for Macunaima´s answer. Mac seems to know a lot of World history.

[edit] Alternate history collaboration with William R. Forstchen
In 1995, Gingrich collaborated with William R. Forstchen on the alternate history novel 1945, describing a World War II in which the US fought against (and defeated) Japan only, while Nazi Germany defeated the Soviet Union, and the two confront each other in a cold war which swiftly turns hot.

Among other things it was described as being "a disguised tract against gun control",[citation needed] as the key scene depicts an armed Tennessee civilian militia, led by Alvin York, defeating Otto Skorzeny's commandos, who raid Oak Ridge. It ended with a cliffhanger — Rommel invading Scotland and the British facing a desperate fight — but a promised sequel, provisionally called "Fortress Europa", has yet to be written.

Some years later, Gingrich and Forstchen turned to co-authoring an alternate history trilogy of the American Civil War, in which the Confederacy wins the battle of Gettysburg. The trilogy consists of Gettysburg (2003), Grant Comes East (2004), and Never Call Retreat (2005).

In 2007 they are publishing the first of a new series, Pearl Harbor: A Novel of December 8th.

Gingrich collaborated with William R. Forstchen on the alternate history novel 1945, describing a World War II in which the US fought against (and defeated) Japan only, while Nazi Germany defeated the Soviet Union, and the two confront each other in a cold war which swiftly turns hot.

Could be,AES (because I searched in Amazon as suggested by GTY and found this 1945 and other things). But I dont think that Mac would be refering to it as Sci-Fi fiction. I am getting more and more curious.

GTY suggested 19-45 and other things? What's wrong with other years (less the 19 of course - bit too young) with any decent carioca bronze or otherwise? Just one after 68 was good? (68 1=)

Not sure this ainainal's concepts re: buying / selling families, or the ability to do so is so good. I've no qualms about supporting friends or their families in need but none we know could ever be construed as for sale.

Alternate History
Alternate history is a subgenre of speculative fiction that is set in a world in which history has diverged from history as it is generally known. Gingrich co-wrote the following alternate history novels and series of novels with William R. Forstchen


Alternate history or alternative history[1] is a subgenre of speculative fiction (or some would say of science fiction) that is set in a world in which history has diverged from history as it is generally known. Alternate history literature asks the question, "What if history had developed differently?" Most works in this genre are based in real historical events, yet feature social, geopolitical, or industrial circumstances that developed differently than our own. While to some extent all fiction can be described as "alternate history," the subgenre proper comprises fiction in which a change or point of divergence occurs in the past that causes human society to develop in a way that is distinct from our own

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A..._(fiction)

What??? You are giving up?? No way! Who are we gonna laugh at down here at the Folha de S.Paulo newsroom? This is gonna be the most boring place on earth... For the last 8 months or so, you have been the most laughable characters of all!! You are far funnier that George Bush himself!! I mean it!! If incompetence and irresponsibility are synonym for very bad journalism, it certainly is synonym for very humorous journalism too, and you have done your best to prove it!!!
So you have written about one single story for 8 months and NEVER HAD ANY SOURCE OF INFORMATION ???? I mean, you wrote about the same subject without asking one single question to any of the people involved? Never called on the Brazilians (police, authorities, whatever) like all journalists do when they need to compare versions? And you never had contacts with the ExcelAire people, the pilots' attorney's, nobody? And they almost KEPT YOU AWAY FROM THE PILOT'S WELCOME PARTY? No no... I just can't believe this. This is too much.
You definitely are a Monthy Phyton character... especially when you claim to do "accurate and honest journalism"????
Honest? A guy who takes a freebie to go to Brazil (wow! Brazil!!!)? A guy who distorts every single fact just to protect two idiotic pilots who killed 154 and almost killed yourself too?
Accurate? A "journalist" who covers the same story for 8 months without ever intrerviewing a single soul, without reading a single legal text (since you don't read Portuguese, and probably not Spanish, probably not French, probably not Italian, you know, Latin languages in general) regarding, for instance, the legal situation of the pilots.
So your only friend all along has been that Pedicini guy who was charged with paedophilia in São Paulo and then acquitted for lack of proof? (You know about that, don't you?) That very same famous non-paedophile guy? Unbelievable.
You Americans are really very funny. This guy Pedecini is American too. Have you ever heard about that American rabbi who's been living in São Paulo for the last thirty plus years and is a big shot among the Brazilian jews, and speaks with that funny American accent... and was arrested FOR SHOPLIFTING IN MIAMI??? Wow, you Americans are (I'm speechless... )
Here in the newsroom there are some people who thought you are just a romantic gay in love with handsome Joe Lepore. "PERSONAL ADVOCACY JOURNALISM"? This is indeed exceedingly gay, but...
No, you just can't leave us, Joe Sharkey. Come on, who are we gonna have fun with? We are all fed up of Bush, and Hugo Chávez is not half as funny. No, no way!! It has to be YOU!!! Joe Sharkey forever!!!
And how about the constant allusions to Alice in the Wonderland. Seemingly, the only book you ever read. And colored too...
The Keystone Kops, oh my... We're not going to have that anymore? And you looked so proud for having come up with that Keystone Kops thing. You found yourself so funny...
Yeah, you know. It's sad...
So if we miss you terribly (you know, when a guy misses handsome Lepore...) the only way we can see you around is by looking for your travel column in the NYT about airports, planes and hotels???? ARGHHHHHHHH..............
That's so sad, that's so sad...
And you look sad too. I'm whispering now: call Lepore..."

A great morning...Mexico 2 Brazili 0....Viva La Raza!!!!

Mexico 2 Brazili 0

Just a temperory set back. We will bounce back and triumph over our other adversaries.

What??? You are giving up?? No way! Who are we gonna laugh at down here at the Folha de S.Paulo newsroom? This is gonna be the most boring place on earth...

No he hasnt given up. You guys are too slow in catching with the "Breaking News".

catching with

Sorry, it should read "catching up with"

you have been the most laughable characters. . .singular should be the most laughable character
you have been the most laughable characters . . .again singular most laughable character
far funnier that George Bush himself!! . . .far funnier than not that
If incompetence and irresponsibility are synonym for very bad journalism. . .are synonymous or synonyms plural
it certainly is synonym for very humorous journalism. . .a synonym for very humorous journalism or synonomous for very humourous. . .
without asking one single question to any of the people involved. . .of any people . . .not to any people
Honest? . . .honestly
Brazilian jews. . .Brazilian Jews capital J
Joe Sharkey forever!!!. . .incorrect usage of the expression
Alice in the Wonderland. Seemingly, the only book you ever read. . .actually far more complex than your simplistic reference to coloring books. . .for example the `Mad Hatter` is a reference to the use of mecuric oxide for the formation of felt in the Victorian Age, causeing mecuric poisoning to hatters, manifested by madness. The book is an allegory filled with references beyond your simplistic analysis. I suggest you read the annotated Alice, you would be better informed before you spoke.
Keystone Kops. . .Keystone Cops

You cannot be journalists, if your proof reading is any representation of your intellect or the validity of your observations you are fatally flawed, and irrelevant.

You are an example of the level of Brazilian journalistic skill.

You have it wrong. I am no fan of Gingrich, either then or now. But he is no fool. I has emerged as a Phoneix from the ashes and is making big bucks writting, speaking and doing the talk show pundit rounds

Hate to break it to you, but the ability to convince even bigger fools to part with their cash is no guarantee of intelligence. Cunning, maybe. Smart? Not necessarily.

As for Newt's sci-fi, he writes in a sub-genre called "alternative history" which is science fiction, pure and simple. He didn't write about Gettysburg: he wrote about what would have happened if the South had won Gettysburg. He also wrote a piss-poor book about the U.S. fighting Nazi Germany all on its lonesome after a Nazi victory in Europe. Alternative history = sci-fi. Period.

Well three affairs, Clinton had twelve and a blow job in the Oval Office, kind of like getting a blow job in the Vatican.

As I recall, according to those "family values" Newts so fond of talking about, even ONE affair is enough. Furthermore, Clinton wasn't having his affair while simultaneously trying to get Newt kicked out of Congress on charges of having an affair. Finally, I don't recall ever hearing an American admit before that he feels his government is a religion, but there's a first time for everything I suppose. But even if we do presume that the "oval office = the vatican", I don't recall that the U.S. constituion - unlike the Catholic Church - says a single word about the sexual conduct of government office holders. Perhaps I am wrong. Can you quote me the relevant part of the Constitution that makes getting a blow-job or extra-marital nooky a crime against the state or the american people?

Sam says, in reference to the Sharkey Fan Club's comments...

You cannot be journalists, if your proof reading is any representation of your intellect or the validity of your observations you are fatally flawed, and irrelevant.

You are an example of the level of Brazilian journalistic skill.

Sam, if the guy's a Brazilian journalist working in the Folha, then English is his second language. You're criticizing him for making grammatical and spelling errors for writing in his second language? OK, fair go, mate: let's see if YOU can write as well in Portuguese as the SFC in English.

And if you can't... Well, hell, Sam, how did you manage to do research down here without being able to communicate in Portuguese? You're the guy who's trying to impress us with his knowledge of things Brazilian, so how about you give us a bit of an essay in Camõe's mother tongue to show us your level of "journalistic skill", using the same measurement you just applied to SFC?

João, Gingrish used Fortschen as his ghost writer. He put his name on the cover for recognition, but Fortschen wrote most of it (obvious if you compare the two's earlier works with 1945). This is quite common in the sci-fi biz.

João, Gingrish used Fortschen as his ghost writer

Thanks bud,AES also clarified it. I really do not much about the scandal surrounding Gingrich or about Ann Coulter (who has a high reference from our other buddy GTY). Now I would like to know if his admiration for her is due to her conservative views (like calling John Edwards a faggot) or it is JUST CARNAL!

Re the comments made by SFC´s comments, I dont think that they read your initial comments about Sharkey´s article or that of "A Brazilian". It would have been more objective if they had read the comments of you both.

Here are some nuggets of wisdom from the man GTY/AES considers to be one of the most relevant American political philosophers of our times. ME? I consider tha man to be a Yank version of Eneas. Read the following Gingrich quotes and decide for yourself...

The most serious, systematic revolutionary of modern times.” Newt Gingrich on Newt Gingrich.

“We must expect the Soviet system to survive for a very long time. There will be Soviet labor camps and Soviet torture chambers well into our grandchildren’s lives.” [Example of New Gingrich’s prophetic grasp of the future.]

“Kill jobs and lead to a recession, force people off of work and onto unemployment and will actually increase the deficit.” [Gingrich again waxing prophetic regarding President Clinton’s 1993 budget bill, which - as anyone can see - killed the U.S. economy]

“In Washington DC 800 babies are left in dumpsters a year.” [Newt Gingrich with a very big lie. It was not 800, it was four. But considering his views on abortion and welfare he may just help his lie come true.]

“Put your baby in a dumpster, that’s Okay.” [Newt Gingrich explaining what liberals want when he was questioned about his plan to initiate 19th Century orphanages.]

"Most People don’t realize it’s illegal to pray in school, most people somehow think that’s not true.” [Newt Gingrich with another flat out lie. Praying is allowed in public schools as long as it is not lead by government employees or so loud as to disrupt the education of others.]

“Up to 25% of the White House, when they first came in, had used drugs within the past 4 or 5 years.” [Newt Gingrich just making stuff up once again]

“The Federal government made a Danish heart pump illegal that was used in ambulances that kept 54% of people alive who would otherwise now be dead.” [Newt Gingrich with another flat out lie to further demonize the government. Official tests of the pump proved it to be of absolutely no benefit whatsoever.]

“Give the park police more ammo.” [Newt Gingrich response to a reporter who asked what to do about the homeless a few days after the police shot a homeless man in front of the White House.]

“The problem isn’t too little money in political campaigns, but not enough.” [Newt Gingrich on campaign reform].

“Gingrich - Primary mission, Advocate of civilization, Definer of civilization, Teacher of the rules of civilization, Leader of the civilizing forces.” [Newt Gingrich on Newt Gingrich.]

"The idea that a congressman would be tainted by accepting money from private industry or private sources is essentially a socialist argument." [Gingrich, reflecting on that old Yank tradition, the bribe, and it's place in modern American politics]

"She isn't young enough or pretty enough to be the President's wife." [ Newt, demonstrating his grasp of family values by describing his first wife (out of three).

1) Though he relentlessly pushes military spending and talks like a bigtime hawk, Gingrich avoided the Vietnam War through a combination of student and family deferments. (He married one of his teachers at age 19.)

2) Several newspapers are reported that Newt Gingrich was dating and basically living with Callista Bisek, a "willowy blond Congressional aide 23 years his junior," before divorcing his second wife. Biske, 33, had been spending nights at Gingrich's apartment near the Capitol and has her own key. In an amazing act of hypocrisy, Gingrich was apparently dating Bisek all during Clinton-Lewinsky adultery scandal, even as he proclaimed family values and bitterly criticized the President for his adultery. Reporters and other Washington insiders had known about this relationship since 1994, even before Gingrich became Speaker of the House, but did not have any solid proof to report. In 1995, Vanity Fair magazine described Bisek as Gingrich's "frequent breakfast companion." Gingrich was married to Marianne Gingrich during all of that time, and filed for divorce only in August 1999. Newt was apparently trying to create a new hybrid form, Christian adultery. According to MSNBC, Bisek sings in the National Shrine Choir, and Newt would often wait for her at the Shrine of the Immaculate Conception, listening to her sing while he read the Bible. This was hardly the first time Newt has cheated, either. "It was common knowledge that Newt was involved with other women during his [first] marriage to Jackie. Maybe not on the level of John Kennedy. But he had girlfriends -- some serious, some trivial." -- Dot Crews, his campaign scheduler throughout the 70s. One woman, Anne Manning, has come forward and confirmed a relationship with him during the 1976 campaign. "We had oral sex. He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, 'I never slept with her.'" (Sound like any famous democrats we know? Famous democrats, I should point out, that Newt tried to pillory for just this sort of behavior...?)

3) Newt's first wife, Jackie, on how he dealt with the subject of their divorce while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer: "He walked out in the spring of 1980.... By September, I went into the hospital for my third surgery. The two girls came to see me, and said, "Daddy is downstairs. Could he come up?" When he got there, he wanted to discuss the terms of the divorce while I was recovering from my surgery."

4) The hospital visit wasn't the end of it, either. Jackie had to take Newt to court to get him to contribute for bills, as utilities were about to be cut off.





Kip Carter, his former campaign treasurer, was walking Newt's daughters back from a football game one day and cut across a driveway where he saw a car. "As I got to the car, I saw Newt in the passenger seat and one of the guys' wives with her head in his lap going up and down. Newt kind of turned and gave me this little-boy smile. Fortunately, Jackie Sue and Kathy were a lot younger and shorter then."

Read my postings you friggen moron. I don't like Gingrich, never have...never will.

Joao, Ann Coulter is a conservative bitch...but a hot one.

And Edwards IS a faggot!

Joao, Ann Coulter is a conservative bitch...but a hot one.

And Edwards IS a faggot!

You getting worked up over these politicos? What do these people have anything good about our "Patria"?

btw, how old is this female Ann Coulter? What is her marital status?. I want a complete report on her.Your opinion counts a lot among the Brazilian readers

A great morning...Mexico 2 Brazili 0....Viva La Raza!!!!

God damn, GTY,you are american, for Christ sake!!! It's the same as me cheering up for German!

And to sam, yeah, they are "illiterati"...IN ENGLISH!!

God damn, GTY,you are american, for Christ sake!!!

You have to remember that he always likes us to remind us that he is a "Hispanic American" and thus be properly addresed .His mom is a Mexican and hence his cheering for that team.I hope his Brazilian wife and children didnt get to see his post

Clinton`s impeachment was for perjury, obstruction of justice, and abuse of power. He was impeached by the United States House of Representatives, but was subsequently acquitted by the United States Senate.

In 1998, as a result of allegations that he had lied during grand jury testimony regarding his testimony during the Paula Jones civil deposition, Clinton was impeached, only the second U.S. president in the history of the United States.
The perjury charge arose from Clinton's testimony about his relationship to Monica Lewinsky during a sexual harassment lawsuit (later dismissed, appealed and settled for $850,000) brought by former Arkansas-state employee Paula Jones. The obstruction charge was based on his actions during the subsequent investigation of that testimony.
In a separate case, Clinton was disbarred from his Arkansas law license for five years and ordered to pay $25,000 in fines to that state's bar officials. The agreement came on the condition that Whitewater prosecutors would not pursue federal perjury charges against him.

On his last day in office (January 20, 2001), Clinton issued 140 pardons. Most of the controversy surrounded Marc Rich and allegations that Hillary Clinton's brother, Hugh Rodham, accepted payments in return for influencing the President's decision-making regarding the pardons

Clinton was morally recrudescent.

Just because Gingrich is or was flawed in his behavior does not negate his intelligence of either idea, or knowledge. Your mistaking past moral turpitude for intellectual acumen is specious.

I think you are blinded by your own vitriole. I think your analysis of Gingrich is naive, and you fail to see what is salient and what is not.

He wrote some ten non fiction works and the level of syntax, and linguistic accuity, transcends the heights to which you pretend.

` I believe we would have had a victory in South Vietnam if it were not for the peace demonstrations and the yellow journalism of the press .
I have very strong feelings about the anti-war demonstrators. I felt there actions gave the enemy hope and by doing so they were guilty of treason !!! You may want to look at the timing of the demonstrations. The war started in 1964 for all practical purposes. Enrollment to colleges and Universities grew enormously. As students start to flunk out or graduate the demonstrations became larger. The students were fearful that they or their loved ones may have to go and fight in the war.
Here is an example how our President felt about the war.... "

http://www.1stcavmedic.com:80/...-draft.htm


December 12 (approx.) - December 31, 1969: ???
Comment: After visiting Norway with Father McSorley, Clinton's movements and activities are unknown until he arrives in Moscow on December 31, 1969. There are a lot of questions as to who Clinton met and where he went during this time period.
December 31, 1969 - January 6, 1970: Clinton travels to Moscow. He later said "relations between our two countries were pretty good then." He then described his visit as "a very friendly time, a good atmosphere."
Despite Clinton's claim that January 1970 was "a time of détente," relations between the United States and the Soviet Union were anything but warm. The Soviets were supplying the North Vietnamese with advisors and anti-aircraft weapons.

When is victory coming in Iraq? Can you give us a date?

Victory has already been achieved. 14 permanent U.S. military bases that will never be abandoned in our lifetimes......never. Look at the countries throughout the world with the highest number of U.S. military bases, it shouldn't take you long to see the irony.

The U.S. has more than 750 military bases worldwide.

Here's a look at Iraq.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/images/iraq-fobs-2005apr21.jpg



Here's a look at the rest of the planet, and notice, they don't even list the U.S. military base that exists in Brazil.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/index.html

AES is right, many people just don't understand the objectives to many actions and wars in the past, they're too interested in saving the whales, the whores, and the planet to recognize what's going on around them.

We mayhave any number of permanent bases in Iraq, but I am not sure how you can possibly call Iraq a victory. The main mission was to find the WMD, which we now know was horses**t. Now, the mission is to stand up a Iraqi military and police force, I just read were they are lacking in equipment and weapons, they just purged the police force of 25% they thought might be working against us...do you think they got them all? As proud as I am of being American and of our men and women in harms way, by no stretch of the imagination can you call this war a victory. And I am afraid we do not have the fortitude to win it, in the end, it will be something in between. Actually, the Taliban will be 2 and 0, they made Russia withdraw as well.

Bush has done great harm to our country and the party, the last being his effort to add another 20 to 30 million immigrants, reward those for breaking the law. The people spoke and the bill went down in flames another loss (thank God) for a clueless President, and I voted for him twice. The real saving grace about America is that a President has little impact on free markets and our economy, like Lula, even Bush can't screw that up. The Democrats will however, they are already talking Universal Health Care, more for for the Arts and giving Unions even more power...watch for the biggest tax increase in US history when they let the Bush tax cuts expire later this year. They claim it will only impact the rich, which they define as $200,000 a year or more, I'm in that range and I sure don't feel rich, just put a son through college at Boston University for $40,000 a year...and have two more sons to go.

Joao, I think Ann Coulter is under 40, slim atractive blond who will say anything to get under the skin of liberals. She wrote a book called "Godless" about the Democratic party awhile back and she keeps it on the Best Seller list by being outragous every so often. I am a sucker for brown women, but I make an exeption in her case, she has never been married.

Some other news, I have accepted a new position with the company I am with and will be leaving S Florida for Northen California the end of July, a city called Pleasanton to be exact, while I have mixed feelings, we are pretty excited. We are home shopping now, we will keep a place in S. Florida so my wife can visit friends and I can still get the boat out every so often.

If I recall correctly, you live close to the "Complexo do Alemão", right? The news about the shoot outs between the Cops and the drug lords is pretty scary. How is the situation now ?

A insípida moral de Clinton não se compara à de Gingrich

O discurso sobre a felação e o Salão Oval em relação ao Vaticano não abordou a religiosidade, mas sim a inadequação do local: um desrespeito à suscetibilidade daqueles que se preocupam com assuntos desta ordem.
Isso, para não mencionar a incrível estupidez de ser surpreendido em flagrante delictu.

Some other news, I have accepted a new position with the company I am with and will be leaving S Florida for Northen California the end of July, a city called Pleasanton to be exact, while I have mixed feelings, we are pretty excited. We are home shopping now, we will keep a place in S. Florida so my wife can visit friends and I can still get the boat out every so often.

So you will be living closer to your parents (If they still live in CA) and farther from Rio. Also, does it imply that you will be cancelling your trip to the Amazon?

Yes, the new position is more of a management one, less travel to South America, more domestic. The trip to Manaus is still on, first weeke of September, in fact, I am heading to Rio on the 8th for 10 days of fun and games. Want to see the war zone first hand. Gonna wear a kevlar sunga, still can't believe I am going to have to pay more than a dollar for a Skol...what is this world coming to.

in fact, I am heading to Rio on the 8th for 10 days of fun and games

It means you are heading to Rio on July 8th and then in September to Manaus.Right?

still can't believe I am going to have to pay more than a dollar for a Skol...what is this world coming to.

Sad,but it is true.There is no point in our Government trying to convince us that the inflation is very low.

We mayhave any number of permanent bases in Iraq, but I am not sure how you can possibly call Iraq a victory. The main mission was to find the WMD, which we now know was horses**t. Now, the mission is to stand up a Iraqi military and police force, I just read were they are lacking in equipment and weapons, they just purged the police force of 25% they thought might be working against us...do you think they got them all? As proud as I am of being American and of our men and women in harms way, by no stretch of the imagination can you call this war a victory. And I am afraid we do not have the fortitude to win it, in the end, it will be something in between. Actually, the Taliban will be 2 and 0, they made Russia withdraw as well.

These comments of yours are quite interesting and a few Americans I ran into during the past one year here seemd to share your views. I guess only the time will say.

The main mission was to find the WMD, which we now know was horses**t. Now, the mission is to stand up a Iraqi military and police force, I just read were they are lacking in equipment and weapons, they just purged the police force of 25% they thought might be working against us...do you think they got them all?

No, the main mission was not to find WMD, that was our excuse to go in, that they had it. And you know what? They did have WMD, they had chemical weapons and the U.S. gov't. knows this for a fact....we have the receipts. What happened to them and where they are now is anyone's guess, but smart money is on Syria.

We went back in to Iraq this last time because we were, and still are, afraid that Saudi Arabia is going to ask us to shut down our military bases there, afterall, this whole Al Qaeda deal started after Gulf War I when the Saudi Arabian gov't. allowed the U.S. to use them as one huge military base launching operations directly from their soil, this infuriated Bin Laden. Note that Saudi Arabia has the largest oil reserves on planet earth. So, who has the second largest reserve? Iraq.

September 11th was a great excuse to achieve objectives that were in writing long before September 11th took place. Take a look at a think tank called " Project for the New American Century" and read some of their publishings. Their members include Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Eliot Abrams, Dick Cheney, Steve Forbes, Scooter Libby, Dan Quayle, and Bill Bennett, just to name a few. This think tank naturally has weilded great influence over the Bush administration, as his very own vice-president is a member, not to mention former secretary of defense and deputy secretary of defense and president of the world bank, but also weilded great influence over the Clinton administration as well.

These "think tanks" is what Eisenhower was referring to during his farewell address when he spoke of "misplaced power" in respect to the military industrial complex. Afterall, these think tanks have been elected by no one and are not responsible to anyone yet many of them, and this one in particular over the last decade has done a great deal to shape and form american foreign policy.

Look outside the box GTY, you can bet your ass that what we hear on the news as to "why" the U.S. gov't. or military is doing this or doing that is just a piece of the story, the one they want us to hear to gain popular support. The U.S. military isn't worried about dominating Iraq, just control it enough and place enough "friendlies" inside to make Iraq our new military launching pad to balance North Korea and Iran in the region.....and naturally those oil reserves don't hurt matters.

from a report named "rebuilding america's defenses" done by PNAC in 2000.

In relation to the Persian Gulf, citing particularly Iraq and Iran, Rebuilding America's Defenses states that "while the unresolved conflict in Iraq provides the immediate justification [for U.S. military presence], the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein" and "Over the long term, Iran may well prove as large a threat to U.S. interests in the Gulf as Iraq has. And even should U.S.-Iranian relations improve, retaining forward-based forces in the region would still be an essential element in U.S. security strategy given the longstanding American interests in the region."[22]

Sorry Bo, I was a "true beleiver" too, but we have no stomach for this war. Its easy to analyze from Brazil, but we live it here. The politcial climate has changed dramaticly, even some of Bush's best allies in Congress like Lugar and McConnell are turning on him. It's in the news this morning, Democrats plan on pressing Republicans with the war and there is no politcial will for a fight, the Republican's are weary and after the Immigration Bill fiasco, Bush is done, a lame duck that no one wants hung around their neck. There will be some attempt to save face, but a pull by the end of the year is all but inevetable.

We of course, to try and save some face, will blame the Iraqi government for squandering their chance at liberty, but we will be out by the end of next year, let the place decend to koas and the rest of the world will rightly blame us...it's going to be ugly. Colin Powell went in front on the UN to lie about Iraq's nuke capability, we used this as the reason/excuse to go in. So what they found a few very old shells containing mustard gas from the Iraq/Iran war, these do not constitue a succesful hunt for WMD's, and the dream that they moved weapons to Syria is a neo-conservative fantasy.

The sad part is that this war could have been won and quickly. We simply did not have enough troops on the ground to secure our advances during the inital invasion. We thought the Iraqis would throw flowers at our troops and treat us a liberators, nothing was further from the truth, the hate for American (all the west for that matter) is cultural and ingrained in a people that would love to do us harm. We have no business there, our oil supply was much more secure prior to the war.

Our military is just a shell of what it once was. It's time to deploy them back, rest them, rebuild them and get them ready for the inevitable fight against Iran, Russia or China. What we really need to do is build back a world class intelligence agency, like MI5 who has the ability and skill to infiltrate and stop attacks before they happen

Oh yea...did you forget about Bin Laden and his number two croney, they guy pops up on a website everyother week and we can't take either one of them out...how pathetic we have become. If you are still supporting Bush, you are with the only 1 in 10 who do, even in his own party.

So what they found a few very old shells containing mustard gas from the Iraq/Iran war, these do not constitue a succesful hunt for WMD's, and the dream that they moved weapons to Syria is a neo-conservative fantasy.



Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) are kept. The storage places are:

click for images of Iraq's WMD location in Syria

-1- Tunnels dug under the town of al-Baida near the city of Hama in northern Syria. These tunnels are an integral part of an underground factory, built by the North Koreans, for producing Syrian Scud missiles. Iraqi chemical weapons and long-range missiles are stored in these tunnels.

-2- The village of Tal Snan, north of the town of Salamija, where there is a big Syrian air force camp. Vital parts of Iraq's WMD are stored there.

-3-. The city of Sjinsjar on the Syrian border with the Lebanon, south of Homs city.

Nayouf writes that the transfer of Iraqi WMD to Syria was organized by the commanders of Saddam Hussein's Special Republican Guard, including General Shalish, with the help of Assif Shoakat , Bashar Assad's cousin. Shoakat is the CEO of Bhaha, an import/export company owned by the Assad family.

In February 2003, a month before America's invasion in Iraq, very few are aware about the efforts to bring the Weapons of Mass Destruction from Iraq to Syria, and the personal involvement of Bashar Assad and his family in the operation.
Nayouf, who has won prizes for journalistic integrity, says he wrote his letter because he has terminal cancer.

Click here for Satellite Images of the Syrian-Iraq's WMD Locations

http://www.2la.org/syria/iraq-wmd.php

Watch out for the back helicopters Sam. No matter what you die hards say or think, it's over in Iraq and we f**ked it up. If he got his weapons to Syria, then they really kicked our ass now didn't they? If you do the math, 2 to 3 US soldiers will die in Iraq today...for what??

strategic positioning. look at london, glasgow. . .the muslims are set to destroy western civilization. black ops, not black helos.

strategic positioning. look at london, glasgow. . .the muslims are set to destroy western civilization. black ops, not black helos.

GTY and I have had lots of disgreements in the past(continue having). But his point of view is very interesting. btw, Sam, I disgree from your view that the Muslims are set to destroy the Western Civilization. It is just like saying that we Brazilians are Xenophobic and expect the foreigners to take over our country. It is the media that promote the clash of religions and bring in the Bogeymen (?). I think that you American swall