Brazzil

You said it all ! In Brazil it is all for money and nothing else ! Brazil is ranked 117 out of 126 countries for the GINI Index as per :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality

Below is part of an article published not so long ago, on the subject of incomes that shows that what is happening in Brazil is not only Crazy but just impossible in a developed or even developing country, except in Brazil...of course :

"We have long written about the dire situation in Brazil whereby a small percentage of the population works their guts out to support a small absurdly rich minority including bankers, a mass of poor, and a bloated and corrupt public sector workforce, indeed the very classes that supported President Lula in his reelection. It is the small middle class that has to pay amongst the world’s highest taxes and interest rates to support the rest, and it is this, combined with corruption that holds Brazil back from growing at a pace anywhere near that of rival nations.
A survey published this week by Dieese shows how the nation is strangling its “chicken that lays the golden eggs” (workers and companies that pay taxes) in order to support other sectors of society, and in this case in particular, those who have jobs in the public sector and pensioners.
According to the survey, the income of workers in the main metropolitan regions has effectively dropped a third over the last fifteen years. but is in fact only just over R$1.000. And, if that worker earning R$1,000 per month in the private sector were to do the same job in the public sector, he would earn R$3,617 per month, plus of course a host of perks, employment guarantees etc. If he managed to get into Federal government, the average wage in the Executive would be R$4,421 per month, in the Legislative R$9,722 and in the Judiciary, R$10,268. This is just absurd, corrupt and ultimately unsustainable.

- OIL WORKERS STRIKE ACTION –
Talking of public sector workers, who incidentally aside from having their jobs in most cases guaranteed for life, who in most cases have their own pension funds, the biggest in Brazil and the biggest investors in the stock market, and who in most cases earn much better salaries than those who pay these salaries, their employers the taxpayers, it should be noted that they also lead the rankings in strike action.
The latest to threaten strike action are workers at state controlled oil and gas monopoly, Petrobras. Apparently workers at the company are unhappy with the collective bargaining negotiations held with the company this year and as at 11 pm last night were planning to start a series of strikes at units across the country.
This move was the initiative of the FNP (National Oil Worker’s Front), which includes six unions representing 10,000 workers, a third of Petrobras’ workforce. The action is more for show than anything else, and will include workers turning up an hour late for their shifts, which they probably already do normally. The FNP is negotiating a 2.8% wage increase based on inflation (ICV/Dieese cost of living index), plus a real increase of 7.5% for all active personnel and inactive (pensioners). According to unions, the company is only offering inflation, plus an 80%-of-a-month’s-wage bonus, plus a promotion for all, plus a lunch allowance of R$381.26 per month (more than a national minimum wage, just for lunches!).

CUTTING COSTS –
Whilst the government is talking plenty about cutting costs to free up funds to invest in the economy and boost pathetic levels of growth, Congress is in fact more preoccupied at the moment in raising its own already abusive salaries and those of those who help support it by guaranteeing total impunity from criminal activities, the judiciary.
One bill before Congress at the moment aims to increase the salaries (before all the mass of extras they get, and of course corruption earnings) of Deputies from R$12,847.20 per month (36.7 minimum wages) to the same earned by Supreme Court judges, of R$24,500 (70 minimum wages) per month. Senators would also see a big increase, which will, as always lead to a waterfall effect giving abusive rises to politicians at state and municipal levels as well.
Another bill meanwhile seeks to give increases to Supreme Court judges, taking their monthly salaries from R$24,500 to R$25,720. The 14 members of the CNJ (National Justice Council) would see their salaries rise from R$23,200 per month to R$28,800, with the extra meant to cover their flights to and board in Brasilia since many don’t live in the capital and have to visit twice a month. The chief judge of the STF (Supreme Court), Ellen Gracie, who is a member of both the STF and CNJ has already given her blessing to the increases, which will up here monthly salary to R$30,300, or 86.6 minimum wages.
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Yesssssss.....sadly enough, in the public sector the AVERAGE wage is around 10 times the minimum wage of reais 350.- Plus of course all the perks, pensions etc etc....
Yesssssss.....sadly enough the oil workers have for only their lunch allowance an amount HIGHER than the monthly minimum wage.
Yesssssss....sadly enough the judiciary people have incomes (before perks, pensions and corruption) of between 50 to 80 times
the monthly minimum wage.

And Lula the cheater is proud not only to have increased the minum wage but proud too to distribute less than 2 % of his
2006 Federal budget of 455 billion reais to Bolsa Familia (budget 8 billions) or more precisely Reais 0,50 per day to 45 millions
citizens !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Totally insane and a true shame to humanity !

Wait, wait, wait...Lula is not the president of my dreams, neither had I voted him. But it seems Sr Chagas is totally against Lula's government and because of it he wrote all this bad stuff for the "gringos". Which is a shame, by the way, since we have already so much to cope with, and coming from a Brazilian, all that criticism doesnt help, does it?
That's the problem about Brazil's politic: when we are opposition, we are opposition till the death. That’s a sad thing.
As for me, who is going back to live in Brazil after over two years away, I am really going to try to find the better way to cope with Brazil, but I will never take a position of criticism. No way. I am going to try to make it different and work hard with my full capacity and do my homework and say f...k o...f to adversities. Everybody knows Brazil has many problems, in each sphere of our society. But then, we know that and we just don't learn. It is not Lula's fault that there are so many analphabets. It is not the president’s fault that people doesn’t care about education. They (the poor and analphabets) get what they deserve. They want to be miserable and have everything ready delivered in their hands? Ok. But then they can't complain because for everything there is a price. And their price will be forever treated as miserable people. Simple as it is. Brazilian people have no pride. They have ignorance, which they mask as pride. Living abroad was a great experience for me, because I could have the proof of what I have always thought about our people. I can say that those who doesn’t want to come back to live in Brazil and try everything to remain in other countries are those people who has no understanding of life in a logical way. The clever, well educated and well born Brazilians were here just passing. So it shows that those who want to remain abroad are those who even didn’t try to be a winner in their own homeland. I believe in Brazil, and I will do whatever I can to help my country to be a better place. If people weren’t so turned to their own problems and tried to help others in a constructive way instead of criticism, Brazil would have been very different.
Anyhow, never mind. Brazil, here I come.
P. S. Sr. Chagas, I will need a job. Can’t you help me by any chance??
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Welcome to the real world, pal... It´s called "africanization". In other words, scum is multiplying, and as a result you will get another Africa, with all the ills mentioned in the article.

If it walks like a duck, if it sounds like a duck, if it looks like a duck ... What is it? It´s Africa!

it is better to have a leader like Mr.Bush. He is sooooo goood!!!!! I'm glad that american soldiers are dying in Iraq searching for mass destruction weapons!!! Where are they? Have you seen any chemical lab???? I'm sad when a latin-american soldier die over there.

Would one of you step forward and suck on my hairy veiny balls?

Welcome to the real world, pal... It´s called "africanization".

Great, another fat and ugly sexually-repressed american spreading his bigotry worldwide. You must be the type of guy that come to countries like Brazil to do everything you didn't have the courage to do in your home country, i.e., have sex with travestites.

Loser. This certainly isn't Africa, but DEFINETELY I woudln't like it to be like the US or Europe. Your mind is too small, and you are too f***ing ugly.

Maybe the internet is the answer.

I mean, Americans are faced with similar (although much smaller, admittedly) problems in the US -- vanishing political accountability, corrupt politicians, lousy news sources, diminishing education, widening gap between the very rich and very poor, etc. Progressive Americans such as myself (I'm half-Brazilian, too, though, which is why I'm here.) have been looking to the internet as our new source of political accountability and reliable, pertinent news.. I can say from experience it's done a lot for those of us who are serious about it. Given the number of Brazilians who use the internet - a lot - and the sort of power that can be harnessed with it, perhaps there needs to be a widescale initiative to get Brazilians to network together, talk about politics, share their stories, lobby against bad politicans, etc. The internet can bring conversation, which is the first step in re-establishing political justice, I think.

Does anyone know if there are any networks out there of this sort (on the internet) for Brazilians specifically?

Brasileiros, falemos somente o português e deixemos esses gringos se virarem com tradutores pela rede mundial, se assim quiserem. Assim podemos conversar livremente e comentar as asnices aqui escritas por eles. Esse site não pode ser sério ao permitir coisas como bem exemplificados nesses comentários. Isso não é apenas ofensivo de uma forma inocente, mas sim proposital. O intuito desse site é denegrir a imagem do Brasil e de seu povo, portanto gastar tempo e saliva argumentando é inútil.

Escrevamos somente o português para que outros brasileiros não se iludam ao visitar o site, e deixemo-los na escuridão de sua própria ignorância.

It's unreasonable to assume that only Brazilians can read and write Portuguese. The defacto language of this site is English, and that won't be easy to change. Maybe you could create a new site exclusively for Brazilians, but how will you keep non-Brazilians out? Just changing the language won't do it. Besides, you are trying to keep out the people that love Brazil and want to help, as much as those who only seem to visit this site to descructively criticize Brazil.

Also, an observation - Brazilians seem to do as much or more offending on this site as any other nationalities do, and some of the biggest critics of Brazil here are actually Brazilians.

Existe uma diferença entre crítica honesta e um diálogo construtivo e o que acontece nesses fóruns. Existem muitas coisas a serem consertadas, não apenas no Brasil mas no mundo todo, e alertar as pessoas é positivo, mas o que acontece é que tudo desse site é usado para o ódio.

Mesmo que os escritores tenham as melhores intenções, os fomentadores de ódio usam isso como combustível para o seu trabalho desonesto.

Apenas estou alertando os demais brasileiros.

Long time ago, Brazillian Universities used to invited the best student from each program to stay in the departament receveing trainning and then he or she could start a career in the academic field. When the army took the power in 1969, things changed. Instead the first student, the new system started to pick up the last student. Today, if you are a female with a beatiful body and a wonderful ass, you can go through out a PhD.

Você vive em que mundo? Está aí mais um exemplo da fomentação de ódio.

Além do mais eu não sei que ídéia é essa que gringos possuem de achar que o mundo inteiro precisa de sua ajuda. Nós não precisamos de ajuda de ninguém. Se falar em português manterá os que desejam ajudar longe, pois assim seja.

Existe uma diferença entre crítica honesta e um diálogo construtivo e o que acontece nesses fóruns. Existem muitas coisas a serem consertadas, não apenas no Brasil mas no mundo todo, e alertar as pessoas é positivo, mas o que acontece é que tudo desse site é usado para o ódio.

Mesmo que os escritores tenham as melhores intenções, os fomentadores de ódio usam isso como combustível para o seu trabalho desonesto.

Apenas estou alertando os demais brasileiros

Boa brazilian! Vamos ignorar esses bolhas mas tb vamos dar umas "respostinhas" para eles! Eles merecem ouvir, por exemplo, o seu ótimo comentário para o tal 'me'. Pra mim o babaca já está querendo saber o que agente vai falar! rs. Seu comentário vale a pena passar para o besta.

It's unreasonable to assume that only Brazilians can read and write Portuguese. The defacto language of this site is English, and that won't be easy to change. Maybe you could create a new site exclusively for Brazilians, but how will you keep non-Brazilians out? Just changing the language won't do it. Besides, you are trying to keep out the people that love Brazil and want to help, as much as those who only seem to visit this site to descructively criticize Brazil.

Also, an observation - Brazilians seem to do as much or more offending on this site as any other nationalities do, and some of the biggest critics of Brazil here are actually Brazilians.


Babaca me,

No one wants to change the 'de facto' language of this blog. We are only doing our business here. Babaca me, there are a few brazilians writing in this very blog if you haven't noticed, the majority who comment here are gringos especially the ex pats. And the only ones who insult Brazilians are you. Me, I offend Americans.

Long time ago, Brazillian Universities used to invited the best student from each program to stay in the departament receveing trainning and then he or she could start a career in the academic field. When the army took the power in 1969, things changed. Instead the first student, the new system started to pick up the last student. Today, if you are a female with a beatiful body and a wonderful ass, you can go through out a PhD.


Linda your education is ugly and stupid.

The army did not take over in 1969.You're not a Brazilian to say that. Reading your comment I can only assume you are a jealous American.

Who mix sex with EVERY aspect of life are Americans. Their repressed sexual upbringing is well noticed and too well spread.

Brazilian, eles espalham boatos em inglês e a comunidade internacional pode ler e no caso do português isso não acontece. Acho legal a sua proposta de comentar o que eles falam aqui, mas nossa eles precisam ser desmascarados, esse pessoal é h-o-r-r-í-v-e-l! Alguns têm a mente aberta e não tão preconceituosos, mas acho raro esses mesmos não caírem em contradição. Discutir com eles é inútil, eles usam muita retórica, muita persuasão, muita técnica de argumentação e principalmente muita meia-verdade. Alguns desses gringos vivem no Brasil há 10 anos ou mais anos. Muitos visitam o Brasil há anos e vários deles são bilíngues.

Maybe the internet is the answer.

I mean, Americans are faced with similar (although much smaller, admittedly) problems in the US -- vanishing political accountability, corrupt politicians, lousy news sources, diminishing education, widening gap between the very rich and very poor, etc. Progressive Americans such as myself (I'm half-Brazilian, too, though, which is why I'm here.) have been looking to the internet as our new source of political accountability and reliable, pertinent news.. I can say from experience it's done a lot for those of us who are serious about it. Given the number of Brazilians who use the internet - a lot - and the sort of power that can be harnessed with it, perhaps there needs to be a widescale initiative to get Brazilians to network together, talk about politics, share their stories, lobby against bad politicans, etc. The internet can bring conversation, which is the first step in re-establishing political justice, I think.

Does anyone know if there are any networks out there of this sort (on the internet) for Brazilians specifically?

Amy there are Brazilian political blogs just like in US. You can find them mostly connected to the renowned journalists. They are well accessed and people discuss there. This one is very popular: Brazzil.com could become a blog for Brazilians, braz expats discuss in both languages the problems of Brazil and also the general comments coming from the brazilians’ detractors. It is a good exercise of searching solutions for Brazil and an exercise of optimism I think.

Amy the link: noblat1.estadao.com.br/noblat/. This is one of the most accessed political blogs here. Also the writer, a journalist, is serious and well respected in the brazilian journalistic area. Also you can find blogs using the words blog and político no google.

Over 5 billion, last I heard.

If you're going to switch the commentary to Portuguese, it should start with the articles, most of which are translated to English from Portuguese.

By the way Cláudia, when you call people names like "babaca", you are going against the principle that "A Brazilian" has put forth. You would find me perfectly capable of name calling, and in either Portuguese or English, as well as French and Spanish, but I choose not to.

I, too, would like to see more civilized discussion of the articles presented on this site.

However, whenever I try to make a constructive and truthful commentary, various people want to start insulting me.

"Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too." -- Voltaire, Essay on Tolerance

It seems to me such lady built a professional career with the ass and now is mad.

Você provavelmente é uma gringa gorda e sem bunda, daquelas coisas brancas que nem lagartixa, e esta com inveja das mulheres brasileiras. Mulher mal-comida fica assim, colocando mensagens de ódio em sites.

Mal comida!? what is that!?

Significa que algum São Jorge precisa se voluntariar para te dar um trato, assim você perde essa amargura.

Let it loose... Do your crabs use your tampon strings as a bungee cord?

You can suck my brazilian dingalinger anytime... Hehehe!

Isn't it the same situation in USA, although in a slightly different angle??/// Who is the main source of federal money?? Th middle class. And it struggles in most cases under heavy debt burden - mortgage, car loans, college loans, etc. Middle class supports the poor, lazy, alcoholics, drug abusers and pay for there health care and so on.

What's left? Do for yourselves, never expect government to do anything for you other then steal from you by promising "free food & beer", until they are elected then it is just raise taxes.
to the brazilian girl. Did you ever think that maybe the gringos are right???????????? You know just maybe George Washington & the rest of the signers of the US Constitution got it right and the all of the worlds statists just want to enslave you for their own personal gain. Look at Brazil, a great country with great people but completely screwed up.

"Você provavelmente é uma gringa gorda e sem bunda, daquelas coisas brancas que nem lagartixa, e esta com inveja das mulheres brasileiras. Mulher mal-comida fica assim, colocando mensagens de ódio em sites."

I damn near chuckled myself off the chair reading that. Here we have “a Brazilian”, obviously obsessed with gringos, harking on and on about how rude individuals on this site are, then in one line sums up his own hypocritical bigotry and hatred. It’s like Moslem populations burning down embassies because they think they are being portrayed as violent in Danish cartoons. Get a life, looser.

By the way, why are you placing sooo much energy here with a few gringos when your own politicians are robbing you blind, or don’t you follow your national news? I wouldn’t be too concerned about a few posters on a board in cyberspace, when my members of parliament are voting themselves a 100% salary increase - which will leave them the HIGEST paid parliamentary members in the world!

Get your priorities straight, trutinho.

Chgas is right about Brazil. The problem for Americans is that American politicians and institutions are studying the behavior of Brazilian politicians and instutions and the Americans can't stand to be outdone, consequently they are trying as hard as possible to catch up to Brazil so they can have even more problems than Brazil and be number 1.

Here we have “a Brazilian”, obviously obsessed with gringos, harking on and on about how rude individuals on this site are...

Esse site propagandista existe pela única razão de espalhar más notícias pelo mundo afora. Os mantenedores não possuem caráter e deixam imbecis colocarem qualquer comentário semi-analfabeto, espalhando o ódio e dizendo coisas sobre um país que sequer conhecem.

By the way, why are you placing sooo much energy here with a few gringos when your own politicians are robbing you blind, or don’t you follow your national news?

Gringo, olha para o teu próprio rabo. Se eu fosse você eu me preocuparia com o que os políticos americanos estão fazendo. Perto deles os políticos brasileiros são amadores na profissão de roubar.