Brazzil

But a total 2006 revenue of US$ 310 million for 120 companies, makes an average of Us$ 2,6 million....per company !!!!

Thus talking about a "Silicon Valley" is quite laughable.

The total annual revenues for 120 companies represents ONLY the revenues of 1 SMALL Sillicon Valley company.

Let me have my doubts on the success or the technological advances and knowhow of these 120 companies.

That must be in Rio where Ana got her tits done!

More drivel about Brazil's "great economy" currently growing at 2%, the worst in all of South & Latin America. So what? They can use cheap ($350 month) labor to produce a few million wafers and chips. Mexico produces 10 times that. There is no inovation here, just reversed engineered products being made for a local market that can ill afford the products these chips go into. There will never be an export market as long as Mexico and China exist...what a bunch of non sense.

What retarded things engineers make R$ 350 a month!? Are you out of your mind? First learn which side is East and which side is West, next step is to start reading a little more in order to avoid saying non-sense.

This website is ridiculous, the commends are uninformed, racist or ill intended, the level of the people attending it, with the exception of a very few, is at the level of the stereotypical american redneck. The ch.c loser is from switzerland but a redneck at heart.

written by A brazilian, 2007-02-28 18:42:36

What retarded things engineers make R$ 350 a month!? Are you out of your mind? First learn which side is East and which side is West, next step is to start reading a little more in order to avoid saying non-sense.

Tell me Bo, how much do you think an engineer makes a month?

Yeah, I am sure EVERYONE that works in your "Silicon Valley" are all engineers even the employees in cleanroom gowns working with hazmat chemicals to produce the chips and wafers that can be made for pennies on the dollar in China. Do you even know how high purity electronic wafers and chips are produced? You moron, we have shipped all these jobs overseas because they are low wage, low skilled. Something Brazil is very good at producing. Yeah, their all engineers...your a rocket scientist. Sound like a teenage poster to me...time to turn off the computer...mommy is calling!

Bo, the liar
written by A brazilian, 2007-02-28 18:51:24

Tell me Bo, how much do you think an engineer makes a month?

It depends on the type of engineer and how much experience he has. Also what part of brazil he's working in as well as which company.

An engineer can make anywhere from 2,000 reais per month up to 12 or 15, depending.

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written by GTY, 2007-02-28 18:52:18

Yeah, I am sure EVERYONE that works in your "Silicon Valley" are all engineers even the employees in cleanroom gowns working with hazmat chemicals to produce the chips and wafers that can be made for pennies on the dollar in China. Do you even know how high purity electronic wafers and chips are produced? You moron, we have shipped all these jobs overseas because they are low wage, low skilled. Something Brazil is very good at producing. Yeah, their all engineers...your a rocket scientist. Sound like a teenage poster to me...time to turn off the computer...mommy is calling!

It's what I've been saying for a long time GTY. You have these idiots like Abe Razillion and E (I'll do your underage daughter) Harm........on-y. You made a simple statement about the cheap labor, said nothing about "skilled" labor, but our buddy Baghdad Bob insinuated and attempted to make your statement say, "engineers".

How many Brazilian engineers does it take to screw in a light bulb?

If it's a "government" light bulb it only takes one engineer, but also one apprentice, one accountant, one mid-level beurocrat(with his hand out), and one laywer. Then a group of 5 minimum wage laborers in which one is a woman, she gets to install it, while the other 4 look up her dress.

It may not be China, it may not be the California Silicon Valley, but it is without a question a breath of fresh air in a rarefied economy. And A Brazilian, I wouldn’t worry about the morons who come to this forum to badmouth anything Brazilian. If their countries were so great, they wouldn’t be bothering coming here and giving their s**tty insight on a country that “apparently” they don’t care for.

How profound...you are so insightful, your boyfriend must be very proud.

how impressive...ok , can you walk and chew gum at the same time?...

Are we missing the point of the article? Good Conx are very important in working with computers. The woman had Good Connections. Just this morning I was trying to install a new piece of hardware and had a problem because of bad connections.

Well, I'd rather live in an undeveloped country (as you guys refears to us). Than to live in a country whose goverment controll people's minds through media. Everybody knows that americans blindly believe in everything that TV says, and that US television networks show just what the guys that run the country approve. They claim to live in "the land of freedom" but they are not allowed even to think by themselves. They are nothing but poor slaves of their goverment witch, troughout it's history, has killed, manipulated and controlled free people from all-over the world, only to guarantee the interests of an economical elite that finance their political campains.

Thanks for your posting; It's what makes our country great. You forgot to mentione that we all drive around in SUV's, guzzle tons of energy and pollute the world...my proud pleasure. That your fat assed President is now kissing Bush's ass just to sell ethanol because your economy is growing a tiny 3% and inflation is again rising in double digits.

How does your government manipulate you?

Cheap beer.
Carnaval
Futbol
Leftist nonsense.
Bolsa Escola
The Beach
A minimum wage of US$350.00 a month.
Public Transportation that is burned up by drug dealers or where passengers are robbed of everything including their hair.
Afforable rice and beans.

I am sure other posters will be happy to add.

There are millions of your country men and women who have given up the Brazilian utopia at some danger to themselves to come live in our mind controlled society of robots. By the way, do you want to chat about your great and wonderful history, about how your military dictatorship disappeared dissidents as late as the early 80's? Oh by the way, I won't refer to Brazil as "undeveloped" I refer to it as a backwater s**t hole where everyone has their hand out for a free ride. Viva Lula!

An interesting take on the US, with all due respect, there are a number of rednecks and trouble makers posting, but there are also many people who for what ever reason spend time or live in Brazil, there comments are from actual Brazilian expereince and many have a common ring. So I don't understand why you would post such a hateful rant about Americans. Do you know a lot about America? Do you know many Americans? Have you been here? Or have you just seen things about us on "Brazilian Media". I can assure you that most of us are working very hard to take care ofour families, be good folks and just do the best we can...I am sure just like most Brazilians are.

I can assure you, as a new American friend, that while the news media is slanted in the US, it is slanted in all directions, here there is total freedom of the press, it is the one thing that resists Bush's efforts to erode our civil liberties. Most Americans absorb lots of information from a lot of different places and then make judgements on their own, no governement agency tells us how to think. If that were the case we would still have a Republican congress, although I am much disappointed with the new congress already.

There was a time when Brazil and the US were very good friends. I have many Brazilian friends both there and here in the US, they are wonderful people who share the same basic goals in life. Goals of happiness and liberty. So my advice is to take these postings with a grain of salt, if it looks like a redneck, sounds like a redneck or writes like a redneck...then it's probably a redneck, don't react, thats what they want you to do, but let's have constructive dialog that does not end up in hate just because we...or you have a comment that we don't agree with.

They are obnoxious, arrogant, stupid, jealous, fat, ugly, disliked, racist, greedy, loud, egotistical, ignorant, obsessed, fanatic, and last but not least, lunatics!

F.U.C.K. the usa, george bush, and all americans.

Aqui não, Costinha. Procura em outro lugar.

Are you an example of an educated and articulate Brazilian? Were does that hate come from? Do you know an American? Has an American harmed you in some way? Have you ever visited our country? This Bolg is really fasinating. What causes people to have such shallow and miserable lives. I feel very sorry for you.

I would swear that the guy in that picture is a DJ with some turntables.

Free Minded
written by GTY, 2007-03-01 18:44:11

A minimum wage of US$350.00 a month.

No bud, that's 350 REAIS per month. Around 160 DOLLARS.

written by Savy, 2007-03-02 00:22:45

Are you an example of an educated and articulate Brazilian? Were does that hate come from? Do you know an American? Has an American harmed you in some way? Have you ever visited our country? This Bolg is really fasinating. What causes people to have such shallow and miserable lives. I feel very sorry for you.

LOL, Savy, I can tell you how 90 % of blogs here on this site will turn out.

First you'll have an article about a situation in brazil that is APPALLING, something about murder or corruption, possibly slave labor, poverty, whatever. But the article is interesting because it shows a recent study or happening and shows how brazil is either THE world leader in this undesirable trait, or A world leader.

Then the bozo's come out of the woodwork. They'll start to post similiar happenings in the U.S., as if these happenings in the U.S. are as frequnet, or severe, as here in brazil. You'll then have the americans fire back at the brazilians for being off topic, not to mention totally irrelevant in the point that is being made, in which in BRAZIL these realities are of disastrous proportions. And it just continues to go back and forth.

There are those that will try and say that because people are murdered in the U.S., to the tune of 14,000 of them in 2005, that the U.S. is AS dangerous as Brazil, which had 55,000 people murdered in 2005, and with a population of a little over HALF of that of the U.S. But, because murder takes place in the U.S., it must be as bad as brazil. Make sense?? A ridiculous way of thinking and justifying. But besides the handful on this board you actually have a percentage of brazilians that truly have this same attitude. It's why WE will die long before we ever see any significant change in brazil. Brazil is a 3rd world country today, and it will be 100 years from now.

That really is depressing...I see so much opportunity in Brazil and have enjoyed my few trips there, I am going back for a month in June. I guess I don't have a good view on the reality there, I guess I feel a little sorry for Brazilians if what you say is true.

Geez Bo
written by Savy, 2007-03-02 09:23:13

That really is depressing...I see so much opportunity in Brazil and have enjoyed my few trips there,

Tons of opportunity, and it is depressing. Especially when you finally realize that the leaders of this country don't have the courage to change it, nor do those with the ability, the middle, upper middle class. They (the politicians) WANT the "status quo", they earn from the "status quo". Investment in education is a joke and invest just enough to not draw irate international criticism. The politicians continue to put themselves above the law, the law does not apply to a brazilian politician. Make sense? In my local newspaper just this week a dep**ado, a congressmen, was stated, "brazilian citizens can't expect the politicians to be like, or walk in the same circles as "ordinary brazilians". Does that make sense? As if they were "royalty". Are you aware that there are actually brazilian laws that exist to protect the politicians against being prosecuted for corruption? Violence is completely out of control and no one trusts the police. Hell, the Brazilian Finance Minister just got robbed, along with his entire family, over Carnaval, and they didn't go to the police! What's that tell ya? Is that a leader?

Get over with the "common places". What you are saying is what any undereducated brazilian can repeat by listening it over the years. You can't point problems because you don't know about them, you are ignorant, so you use every single occurrence that happens in here to "prove" your point: "See, see, this much worse, much worse...".

Pathetic.

written by A brazilian, 2007-03-02 11:35:43

Get over with the "common places". What you are saying is what any undereducated brazilian can repeat by listening it over the years. You can't point problems because you don't know about them, you are ignorant, so you use every single occurrence that happens in here to "prove" your point: "See, see, this much worse, much worse...".

Well folks, as a neutral-hard to neutral in the cirCUMstances, huh!
Beazilans and Americans should pick their weapons and go to battle, hehehe!

"Get over with the "common places". What you are saying is what any undereducated brazilian can repeat by listening it over the years. You can't point problems because you don't know about them, you are ignorant, so you use every single occurrence that happens in here to "prove" your point: "See, see, this much worse, much worse...".

Pathetic."

Lets see what Bo says:

The leaders of Brazil don't have the courage to change it.

Investment in education is a joke.

Brazilian politicans put themselves above the law, there is even a law that protects them from prosecution for corruption.

Violence is completly out of control and nobody trusts the police.

The Brazilian Finance Minister was robbed and he did not go to the police!

These sound like pretty "pin pointed" things to me and much of what I have expereinced and heard from my Brazilian friends. Do you deny these things? Quit drinking the Kool Aid man. There is no conspiricy, just people relating what the know to be true about Brasil.

Bo,

You are correct when you say that Brazil will be a 3rd world country in the next 100 years. Actually, one famous brazilian economist, Roberto Campos, said that Brazil has to grow at least 4%-5% a year to grow in a level to absorb all the young people that get into the job market. If Brazil start growing over 5% it will take 120 years for Brazil to approximate the level of the United States TODAY! Brazil has no chance of growing without the reforms, and I believe as a brazilian that this reforms will not happen without something very serious taking place.

I'm feeling like my post was a little bit misunderstood.

First, I do not hate Americans and I was not angry when I typed those words. CalSur I've read your post, and u sounded like a wise guy to me, but yet, I maintain what I said. If you read GTY’s answer to my post you'll se that he is the living prove of everything I said. Specially when he mentions "leftist nonsense", witch demonstrates that your government succeeded in it's historical crusade to abolish the classical leftwing ideas from American’s minds, making words such as Communism and Socialism sound like awful curses to any American citizen. I'm not the only one, not jus in Brazil, but in the whole world, who shares the conception that most Americans are indeed rednecks with an incorrect view of the world. But I don't blame them for being like this, because, as I said, they are the major victims of their government’s eager to power.

Ps: GTY, just for you to know, the coupe d'etat that started the Military dictatorship you've mentioned was fully supported by US government at the time. During the military regime (1964-198 many CIA officers came to Brazil just to teach government’s agents on how to suppress the guerrilla and the resistance groups that tried to fight to restore democracy. The military regime was the best way US government had to prevent Brazil and many other countries in Latin America from a Communist revolution as it happened in Cuba. So, the next time you try to criticize something about our history, please make sure that you actually know the subject quite well.

Ps: GTY, just for you to know, the coupe d'etat that started the Military dictatorship you've mentioned was fully supported by US government at the time.

So what? We would've supported anything in the face of communism. What's your point? The coupe d'etat was planned and conducted by brazilians. Yes, they had the support of the american gov't., but it was a brazilian plan, carried out by brazilians. People like you love to try and cover up that fact. As if the U.S. gov't. and the CIA "installed" a new gov't. in brazil with a few thousand CIA agents and a few million dollars.