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The Chinese Thais have a curious expression. "Which do you step on first an Indian or a snake?"

Chinese Thais which AES quotes, should know that Chianese Thais not only eat snakes but will eat your pets dog and cats. Now you know who to step pon first >>>>

I think the expression has to do with the cunning of the Indians in business. It is probably more of a compliment as to their ability, a word of advice not to underestimate them.

I am afraid that the author named the wrong capital. It should be Beijing that has to worry!

The author seems to be slighly lost about the right combination of food and liquor.The curry goes much better with Brazilian beer (or any beer).For the teetollers, fresh fruit juice is recommended with curry,while traveling in India.

I think the expression has to do with the cunning of the Indians in business. It is probably more of a compliment as to their ability, a word of advice not to underestimate them.

Sorry, AES, I forgot to comment on your comment! You are absolutely right.Never underestimate them and your advice is sound.

I think that a window of opportunity is opening for Brazil to trade with India.It is up to the Brazilians to make use of it. I think that the Americans are very smart in recognizing this fact and I dont really believe that Washington is worried. In fact they recognize India to be a strategic ally to counter the "Chinese threat".

Since you love Geopolitics, would appreciate your comments.

The Indians see lots of space available in Brazil for their surplus population.

Thank you very much for your overview of India's south south thrust...I hope it fares well for our region and India.

Quite a joke that Brazil will be the centerpiece of India, and not the EU !!!!!
Looks like you will import a lot from India ???????
LAUGH.....LAUGH....LAUGH !

And since when Brazil has the technology to build nuclear plants .....???????
Why have you not built many of them so far ....for you, if you have the know how ?
LAUGH....LAUGH...LAUGH !

Brazilians talk a lot, but they dont even have a local car or truck company, they are all foreign companies !
Even your locomotives are from foreign technologies.
How then Brazil could produce by themselves....nuclear plants ?
LAUGH.....LAUGH....LAUGH !

What you could eventually offer is cheap labor, but India beats you very very very easily. Not only in low wages but also with the hundreds of millions of workers they have available....locally !
LAUGH....LAUGH....LAUGH !

A more appropriate term should be.......ETHANOL WITH CURRY !
Why ?
You export very little caipirinha but a lot of ethanol.... to India !

You export very little caipirinha but a lot of ethanol.... to India !

You already said that India is the largest importer of Brazilian Ethanol. I checked it and I hate to admit that you are irritatingly correct

I merely suggested that Curry goes much better with Beer, judging from my experience.

Explain your following statement:

Quite a joke that Brazil will be the centerpiece of India, and not the EU !!!!!
Looks like you will import a lot from India ???????

BTW, do you know about the economy of India as well as you know that of Brazil?

Looks like you never went to India.
There are only a few areas where they eat the real chili and hot !
MOST CURRIES IN INDIA OR ELSEWHERE ARE TASTY AND SWEET .....BUT NOT CHILI HOT !

It is like saying the North Africans enjoy the hot chili ! Ask Morocans and Algerians, very few eat the hot chilis.
Only a minority of Tunisians like them.

While in many caribeans countries, locals eat daily very very hot chilis !

Looks like you never went to India.

I am afraid you are wrong. When I said "Fresh fruit juice is recommended", I meant for non Ethanol consumers ( ). During my first visit to the Indian sub continent, I went by train and passed by several states. The amount of Chili used, varies from one region to other. They serve some good flat bread with hot curries. To cut down the effect of the Red hot Chili, they serve clarified butter! It was an interesting journey. In Agra,it was so hot that we decided to enter the restaurant of "Taj Mahal" hotel.Air conditioned and felt cool and nice. Guess what, we ordered cold beer,flat bread and some good hot chicken curry.They also serve a salad of onion,tomato and cucumber, to cut down the effect of red hot chili. I forget the name of that salad.But it was ever delicious.

Have you ever been to that sub continent?

Ok.I got the right name for the Indian flat bread through Google. It is called "Tandoori Nan". The salad I was talking about is called "Raita".

You are right about their Locomotives,though. I forgot to mention that they do have fast Trains. Electrical traction as well as Diesel hauled ones.

Do you think that we could introduce Ethanol powered trains in India?

hi Joao. I am the author of this article (btw have you noticed how this website always changes the titles of articles republished here? go to www.coha.org where you will see the real title of my article)
i just wanted to say i agree beer goes well w curry, but caipirinhas are pretty well known as Brazilian drinks, so I wanted to use 2 "trademaark' dishes and drinks as my first bullet to get people's attention. which i guess worked from the responses ive gotten!

"ethanol and curry" thats pretty good actually! but i didnt go into ethanol in the article.. ill remember that though.
hope you all like my upcoming articles

and seeing testimony by Petraeus and the U.S. ambassador to Iraq in front of the senate for the last two days, I can tell you, Brazil and India`s relationship is not even in the top 100 concerns on washington`s mind!


Gotta love the sensationalism of the titles to these articles.

Anyone who has had Indian cuisine can relate to the main side effect after eating a good Indian meal: lethargy. Indian food has a knack of putting you to sleep, no doubt with the ghee and other high grease dishes, that Indians are good at making, and that end up clogging your arteries and veins producing the laziness that India is famous for. I've been exposed to both cultures, and for the sake of Brazilians, I hope that Brazil will influence the Indians more in any interaction, instead of vice versa.

Hi Alex,

You are right.The real title of your original article was "India: The Relatively Quiet, but Growing Presence of a New Asian Powerhouse in the Western Hemisphere, Particularly Brazil". I really do not know why the editors of this magazine decided to change the title.Probably make it sensational so that some of our regular and distinguished commentators like AES,Bo,AES,etc; would read your article and come out with their opinion (which they managed to achieve).

It was good that you decided to participate in this blog and there is nothing like having the author of an article to debate with the readers.An example is Ernest Barteldes.

Surely we look forward to reading your upcoming articles,provided you are prepared to receive highly constructive (and some times destructive) criticisms!

All the best. The Indians trust in our "Ethanol" and neither Washington nor Berne should be worried about the growing ties between the two countries.

Probably make it sensational so that some of our regular and distinguished commentators like AES,Bo,AES,etc;

Oops, I meant to say AES,Bo and a VERY GOOD friend of ours CH.C. I would never ever want to offend the feelings of Ch.C!

Being in the U.S. this past week...

Obviously you survived the long flight and reached Pittsburg safely. Hope you are having a great time with your family and friends. How is the weather up there?

Sorry for you if you hate to admit that I am right.....just once more !
It happens, as I already told you a few times, that wether one like or not my comments, they are all based on factual truth and stats.

But admitting the reality, even if you hate it....for the time being, is certainly the start of a brighter future.

Finally feel free to offend my feelings, if you have common sense and good stats !


And to Yowser comments : "I hope that Brazil will influence the Indians more in any interaction, instead of vice versa.*

Sorry, but what will Brazil cuisine teach to Indians ? Feijados ???

Indian cuisine is recognized around the world as very good.....and diversified !
Not so for Brazilian cuisine ! Yours is in fact quite limited !

My "Quite a joke that Brazil will be the centerpiece of India, and not the EU !!!!!
Looks like you will import a lot from India ??????? "
was sarcatisc......as usual !

Reality being that Brazil intends to buy very little from India but hopefully will export a lot to them !

The problem both India and Brazil have, is that BOTH have a logic of imports substitution ideologies.
Lets face it, you expect investments from developed nations to produce in your country and then excpect to export back
in the developed nations.
But both India and Brazil have the highest trade barriers....in manufactured goods and financial services !
The only winners will be the foreign companies from developed nations. And both India and Brazil will continue to produce
BASIC COMMODITIES....instead of adding value to the imports and then re-exporting goods with added value as developed nations do !
China does this very very well ! they import cotton from Brazil, and then re-export clothes in Brazil and.....around the world !

But what is Brazil importing, adding value, and then re-export ?????
I wish you have a list of a few examples .

I mean outside of....... agriculture.

Because as I sadly said a few times, the biggest winners in the Brazilian agricultural industry, are those selling the inputs such as
fertilizers, fongicides, GMO seeds, tractors,harvesters, trucks.
It happens they are mostly ALL foreign companies.

Sorry, but what will Brazil cuisine teach to Indians ? Feijados ???

You do have a sense of humor,dont you?

However, Brazil does indeed produze,all the ingredients to make Indian spices and has large space to grow their lentils (Vegans love them, as the lentils substitute animal protein).

You are right, what is the point in trying to export "Know How" of Feijoada,without knowing that most of them dont eat pork nor beef?

But, you must know, the big conglamorates like the Tatas and Mittal are already in Brazil,though I am yet to hear about one big company from here setting up their shop there (Marco Polo has stuck a deal with Tata Motors,to build busses).

Since I am in the mailing list of the Indian Embassy in Brasilia, I get their Electronic News Letters and you can trust on my info.I dont think that Brazil can count on exporting Ethanol forever to India. Do I need to explain, why? I bet you know the answer and you dont have to LAUGH...LAUGH! Just SMILE

I think Brazil should follow in the India's footsteps and proclaim English the official language.

That is actually a great idea. English is an international language, the language of science, business, medicine, etc. Brazil would make a tremendous international impact if they had a 10 year plan to convert their national language to English.

I think Brazil should follow in the India's footsteps and proclaim English the official language.

It is certainly not a bad idea.However, we dont have to be drastic.Instead, we can proclaim English as one of the TWO official languages of Brasil and not just THE official language of Brasil. In case you dont know, India has TWO official languages. One is Hindi and another is English. They conduct their diplomacy, trade,etc; in English. It is easier to travel in India ,if you speak English.

I think that you both have come out with good suggestions. My Kudos.

[So many experts !

Amazing