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US DOLLAR IS WEAK. EXPORTING TO THE US MEANS: LOW PROFIT.

You wrote the following on your article: “When did this scenery start to change?

When the country started looking to the Arabs as trade partners. President Lula visited six Arab countries, the first South-South summit took place, in Brasília, and the second has already been scheduled for next year.”

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I hope that my articles have been helping to promote the business between Brazil and the Arab world.

Here is an article that had a major impact in Brazil and in Saudi Arabia:

June 2003 – “Dear Saudis, Play Safe Bring Your Money to Brazil”

http://brazzil.com/p117jun03.htm


Note: On the same day that the above article was published on Brazzil magazine the Brazilian state department published a copy of this article on the Brazilian government State Department web site in Brazil.

And a week after this article was published on Brazzil magazine I received an invitation at that time from the government of Saudi Arabia for me to visit Saudi Arabia and meet with the government officials responsible for Saudi Arabian investments.

I did not accept the invitation because of the Iraq war, but I did keep in contact with the Saudis that contacted me, and in the summer of 2004 I did meet with one of the senior Saudi officials here in New Jersey. He was going through an investment road show for his government here in the United States, and he stopped in New Jersey just to meet me in person.

And in the last 5 months I have been a guest of the Saudi and Bahrain government in two very interesting conferences in New York City and you can read about it at the following web site:


The Sustainable Development Forum 2007 - Ethanol and Biofuels.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=93388


Great Economic Opportunities in Saudi Arabia.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=96876


There are various Arab newspapers that are publishing my articles in the Middle East today. But one of them “ArabNews” is the equivalent of “The New York Times” of the Middle East. The Moslem people in Asia also read ArabNews on a regular basis.


May 2005 - “The Arab Latin Summit, Brazil and the Future”

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=6§ion=0&article=63528&d=10&m=5&y=2005


April 2005 - “Brazil to Host Arab-South American Summit Next Month”

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=6§ion=0&article=62405&d=19&m=4&y=2005


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on gaining recognition from the Saudi gov't. But I must say, be very careful. The only reason the U.S. invaded Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia is politics. If we were to invade the country most responsible for 9-11 it would indisp**ably be Saudi Arabia!

1 real will soon be 1 dolar again
written by Joana Jussara, 2007-10-10 01:42:22

I would LOVE to see that! But it will never happen Joana. The many gov'ts. of the world will never allow it. They would lose too much. Especially Brazil.

If Brazil were to opt for being part of a multinational currency, they wouldn´t have much to say about it. Which is one reason why the subject makes interesting reading but will never happen.

Just do your total exports in Brazilian currency for 2003.....and do the same for the estimated exports in 2007 !!!!!

You will finally realize that your TOTAL exports grew VERY LITTLE .......AT BEST.....IN LOCAL CURRENCY !!!!!

As I said so many times in this forum......Brazilians love to cheat, hide and lie !

You caress your navel 24/7/365 due to your pride of your "apparent" prowess, but reality is quite differnt wether you like or not !

Here is a good idea, so that you could caress your navel even far more :
Just do your currency translations for your exports into the Venezuelian currency.
The export growth rate will even be far more impressive, since the VEP is down around 60 % against the weak US$ !

The sad reality is that you have a good export growth rate....SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU ACCOUNT THEM....IN US$ !

May be not so your grains/sugarcane/OJ/coffee farmers and cars workers....just to name a few !

Funny your statement "US DOLLAR IS WEAK. EXPORTING TO THE US MEANS: LOW PROFIT."

In what currency do you believe your exports are paid with...when sales occzu outside the USA ??????

Welcome to site ......new brazilian junkie !

You wrote the following on your article: “When did this scenery start to change?

When the country started looking to the Arabs as trade partners. President Lula visited six Arab countries, the first South-South summit took place, in Brasília, and the second has already been scheduled for next year.”

********

I hope that my articles have been helping to promote the business between Brazil and the Arab world.

Here is an article that had a major impact in Brazil and in Saudi Arabia:

June 2003 – “Dear Saudis, Play Safe Bring Your Money to Brazil”

http://brazzil.com/p117jun03.htm


Note: On the same day that the above article was published on Brazzil magazine the Brazilian state department published a copy of this article on the Brazilian government State Department web site in Brazil.

And a week after this article was published on Brazzil magazine I received an invitation at that time from the government of Saudi Arabia for me to visit Saudi Arabia and meet with the government officials responsible for Saudi Arabian investments.

I did not accept the invitation because of the Iraq war, but I did keep in contact with the Saudis that contacted me, and in the summer of 2004 I did meet with one of the senior Saudi officials here in New Jersey. He was going through an investment road show for his government here in the United States, and he stopped in New Jersey just to meet me in person.

And in the last 5 months I have been a guest of the Saudi and Bahrain government in two very interesting conferences in New York City and you can read about it at the following web site:


The Sustainable Development Forum 2007 - Ethanol and Biofuels.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/...adid=93388


Great Economic Opportunities in Saudi Arabia.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/...adid=96876


There are various Arab newspapers that are publishing my articles in the Middle East today. But one of them “ArabNews” is the equivalent of “The New York Times” of the Middle East. The Moslem people in Asia also read ArabNews on a regular basis.


May 2005 - “The Arab Latin Summit, Brazil and the Future”

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=...=5&y=2005



April 2005 - “Brazil to Host Arab-South American Summit Next Month”

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=...m=4&y=2005


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Why do you hate Brazil so much?

What's your problem?

Do you have a single thought that is constructive?

The only thing you do is bash everything about Brazil.

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For a country that claims to be serious about foreign trade, Brazil is doing very little to stabilize the dollar (R$1.. Agriculture is the biggest loser with a strong real.

For a country that claims to be serious about foreign trade, Brazil is doing very little to stabilize the dollar (R$ 1.. Agriculture is the biggest loser with a strong real.

The only good thing about a strong real is that people can buy cheap junk from China, which is everywhere in Brazilian shopping mall these days (joke). This hurts Brazilian industry. In Brazil, a job selling crap at shopping malls has become "a good job," since factory work has disappeared and "white collar" jobs are few. Over the centuries foreign trade has made Brazil into a dependency of Europe and the United States. Are we on the way to become a dependency of China? The patterns are very similar. We sell agricultural goos such as soybean and we buy industrialized goods from them. On our side, only the big corporations such as Maggi and Cargill benefit from the trade. The rest of the population lose their jobs due to Chinese el cheapos. We are becoming just like the US in this respect.

The only good thing about a strong real is that people can buy cheap junk from China, which is everywhere in Brazilian shopping mall these days (joke). This hurts Brazilian industry. In Brazil, a job selling crap at shopping malls has become "a good job," since factory work has disappeared and "white collar" jobs are few. Over the centuries foreign trade has made Brazil into a dependency of Europe and the United States. Are we on the way to become a dependency of China? The patterns are very similar. We sell agricultural goos such as soybean and we buy industrialized goods from them. On our side, only the big corporations such as Maggi and Cargill benefit from the trade. The rest of the population lose their jobs due to Chinese el cheapos. We are becoming just like the US in this respect.

Well put, my friend. We are the very few lonely voices. As long as I remember, the domestic consumers always subsidized the exports. Your comments really reflect the reality of Brasil of today. Soon,soon, we are going to be just the exporters of rawmaterial and commodities. It is a pity about our factory workers,Engineers and technicians losing their jobs.But does anyone really care?

Question for Ch.c
written by Ricardo Amaral, 2007-10-10 16:23:15

Why do you hate Brazil so much?

What's your problem?

That is because, Ch.C is a direct descendent of Bill Tell.Except that good ole Bill shot the apple off his son´s head to save him. However, if a water melon is placed on top of somebody´s head and ask Ch.c to shoot, he will shoot that person´s head to save the water melon

Never mind the noble Swiss fellas nor their descendents. Billy Tell wouldnt have appreciated the behaviour of Ch.C!

'The only good thing about a strong real is that people can buy cheap junk from China,'


This is the time to buy capital goods from the U.S. as they are nerely half the price they were two years ago. Farm equipment, harvesters, irrigation, pumps, construction machinery, dozers, robotics, microscopes, computers, hardware, software, tools, machinery, aircraft. . .there is an infinity of capital goods that are currently on sale.

Lead me to confess that I´m not real comfortable with the characterization of Brazil as a "weaner". I think weaner hogs, weaner calves, you get the drift.

This is a good time to buy used aircraft in the states. This is a bad time to try to get anything in to Brazil as personal baggage, like laptops and expensive software.

This is a good time to travel to the states. These opportunities historically have not lasted long.

Don´t count the USA out. When the dust has settled from the dollar debacle, the resources, farmland, knowhow, and infrastructure are still going to be there. The USA is one of the few countries that could actually exist on its own, although obviously not with its current standard of living based on fractional banking.

You said: “Your comments really reflect the reality of Brasil of today. Soon,soon, we are going to be just the exporters of rawmaterial and commodities. It is a pity about our factory workers,Engineers and technicians losing their jobs.But does anyone really care?”


Here is the answer to job creation inside Brazil – who do you think would build everything that I mentioned on my article?

The investments would be done taking into consideration both the Brazilian and Chinese long-term strategic needs, and here are the main areas for China to invest in Brazil. I would suggest that China invest at least US$ 170 billion in five major areas in Brazil plus another US$ 30 billion in a mutually beneficial space program as follows:

1) Nuclear power plants - US$ 60 billion
2) Strategic infrastructure - US$ 40 billion
3) High-speed broadband infrastructure - US$ 20 billion
4) High-speed rail networks - Bullet Trains - US$ 30 billion
5) Mortgage market - US$ 20 billion
6) Space development and exploration - US$ 30 billion

If the Brazilian government follows my economic development plan as I described on my article then millions of Brazilians would be able to find a job inside Brazil.

By the way, these are good paying jobs.

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I don't think there is anything left that is made in the US. The goods you listed are mostly made in China. Just go to any store in the US and check the labels. Anything made in the US is rare. Can you think of a computer that is made in the US? The company maybe American but not the production of the goods. It is all Chinese (and from other developing countries). Tha's why American families work more than one job in order to support themselves (sometimes more than two jobs). One K-Mart or Wal-Mart job is not enough. The US exports mostly agricultural goods to Asia and receives manufactured goods from them. Corporations get rich and the American people get screwed.

You might want to browse thomasnet.com, the online version of our old green printed friend Thomas Register, and be surprised at how much is still being manufactured in the USA including, yes, machine tools.

Your statement is incorrect. I am not talking about about Wal Mart or K Mart. Capital goods are used in industrial manufacturing. Such goods priced in Euros or Yen are not competitive. The purchase price in dollars for Brazil is at 20-40% what they were before the Real strengthened vis a vis the dollar.
40% of CAT production is exported. You underestimate the U.S.

Caterpillar (commonly referred to simply as CAT) is "the world's largest manufacturer of construction and mining equipment, diesel and natural gas engines, and industrial gas turbines."

International Harvester, John Deere, Cummins, Mack (among others) at this exchange rate are a bargain.

American aircraft are certainly a better value in dollars for Brazil than any manufactured in Europe.

Whether Brazil has the wisdom to leverage its dollar assets is to be seen.

if that is so than why is there 3.23 million brasilians living illegale in the US the largest bunch OTM in the US

we make a bunch of stuff here but the normal brasilian could never buy them as your goverment places so much tax on our goods that no one except the goverment
personal can buy them or steal them when sent by family members

like so many things made in brasil
the boss will get gretty and thing will go to cheep

John Deer parts are made in China, http://www.ytmag.com/jd/messages/228101.html. Caterpillar is going the same way http://www.boston.com/business...in_china/. I believe International Harvesters also import parts. It is the age of globalization. As soon as Chinese cars pass US standards, which some predict will be in the near future, China will very likely surpass US and Japanese manufacturers in the US market. The reality is that Americans cannot compete with Chinese cheap labor. I am not saying anything bad about the US, it is a simple fact.

Most Brazilians in the US work in the service sector, like most immigrants to the US. Only a few nationalities such as Indians, Koreans, and immigrants from some African countries have overrepresentation in professional careers. Most industrial jobs that remain for immigrants are in industry such as food production and textiles (sweat shops). The reality is that the US is no longer the industrial powerhouse it was. It remains a major financial center by having its industry oversees exploiting the cheap labor of other countries. Even Loue Dobbs, that tower of ignorance andarrogance, knows this.

When you lower your tarriffs for agricultural goods such as sugar and ethanol we will lower ours for your your products. Unfortunately, you guys refuse to do so.

You said: “I don't think there is anything left that is made in the US.”

The United States has more than 50 percent of the market share of global armament sells.
The US is number one in the death industry.

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You wrote: “if that is so than why is there 3.23 million brasilians living illegale in the US the largest bunch OTM in the US”

Your information is not correct. There are approximately 1.6 million Brazilians living in the US – about half legally and the other half illegally.

By the way, since the beginning of 2007 there is an exodus of Brazilians going back to Brazil. We are talking about thousands of Brazilians are going back, and some cities around the Boston area have started to feel the economic impact of this massive exodus.

There are many reasons why this is happening, but an obvious one is the war that Americans are wagging on illegal immigrants here in the old USA.

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Nothing like wagging war on illegals.

Ricardo,

I'm not sure what kind of background you have but your theories aren't rooted in reality whatsoever. You speak about China as if it will continue to grow at 12% and eventually have a nice, soft landing and everyone will live happily ever after. As much as you have some very noble and idealistic goals, they are COMPLETE RUBBISH in terms of probability.

China and India certainly have no use for Brazil in terms of skilled labor. They have plenty of their own who, generally speaking, are superior to most around the world. With an average wage of $350 reais/month, you're not a real player in terms of purchasing power and your bureaucracy could f**k up a wet dream. You will continue to supply cheap commodities like you've always done and take China's overflow exports like the good little 2nd tier consumers that you are. Your idiot president opened Brazil up to Chinese dumping and soon you'll be offshoring your own workforce. Your wages may be low, but they can certainly go lower in other nations.

Furthermore, China is heading for a bust of monumental proportions. Explain how they're going to put the brakes on when the train keeps speeding along at a 12% BREAKNECK clip. How will they do that without sending the economy into a stall. That you keep hyping China demonstrates that you're not meant to be taken seriously. Anyone who currently dwells inside the beast knows that China is an economic disaster waiting to happen with its primitive banking structure, creeping inflation/price controls and foreign reserves that are being debased daily with the fall of the $$. China has more important things to invest in than Brazil. They must create 2.2 million jobs per month to prevent uprisings. You think they want to invest in nuclear power in Brazil? Get real.

OH and Ricardo - that's WAGING not WAGGING. WAGGING is what a dog does with its tail.

What China should do is begin seriously exporting millions of coolie hats the the Brazilian Northeast. What a market. The little Lampião style leather hats don´t provide enough relief from the sun.

What China should do is begin seriously exporting millions of coolie hats the the Brazilian Northeast

Or set up a plant in the "Sertão" to manufacture them. What do you think would be the investment figure in terms of Reais?

did you count them all ???

as off last year the state of texas has stoped 27.000 in the past 5 years .trying to get into the US

and i bet the impact is not as grate as you think asin your own words there are not that many brasilians living in the US ???

not a war just a house cleaning

with a population of 300 million you have to start some where to set things right

now if people woulf just get rid of all the laywers in congress we could do some good .

if the amercias were all on the same pay scale we would not have this war on people seaking a better life now would we

did you count them all ???

as off last year the state of texas has stoped 27.000 in the past 5 years .trying to get into the US

and i bet the impact is not as grate as you think asin your own words there are not that many brasilians living in the US ???

not a war just a house cleaning

with a population of 300 million you have to start some where to set things right

now if people woulf just get rid of all the laywers in congress we could do some good .

if the amercias were all on the same pay scale we would not have this war on people seaking a better life now would we

Heil to Führer Brown!!!! Now let's create ovens to get rid of the 12 millions illegals. What about if the housecleaning begins with ignorant people like you? I say we make it against the law for people like you to reproduce. That should reduce numbers and make the population smarter.

"I would LOVE to see that! 1 TO 1 !"
written by ch.c., 2007-10-10 15:50:20
May be not so your grains/sugarcane/OJ/coffee farmers and cars workers....just to name a few !

They're not "mine" ch.c!

When are you ever going to realize that I'm an american that has invested in brazil? I would love to see the real go 1:1 with the dollar. I'll sell every single asset I have in this country and go home.

written by Ricardo Amaral, 2007-10-11 02:00:43
You said: “I don't think there is anything left that is made in the US.”

The United States has more than 50 percent of the market share of global armament sells.
The US is number one in the death industry.

You know what they say....."death and taxes".

By the way, since the beginning of 2007 there is an exodus of Brazilians going back to Brazil. We are talking about thousands of Brazilians are going back, and some cities around the Boston area have started to feel the economic impact of this massive exodus.

well, for the vast majority, it certainly wasn't by choice....lol.

They're not "mine" ch.c!

When are you ever going to realize that I'm an american that has invested in brazil?

Bo, Willie is mule headed and he would never listen to you nor (for that matter) to anybody

I fear the Chinese will eat Brazil for breakfast.

The minister said nothing about value added, just volumes of trade. Given that agricultural product prices have been in decline for three hundred years (there is currently a blip due to supply side issues in China), it seems a little odd that Brazil would choose to focus on that sector.