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Brazil? Oh my! How Do I Miss You! PDF Print E-mail
2008 - January 2008
Written by Tracy Reichdan   
Tuesday, 15 January 2008 16:04

Brazilian Baiana hands out an acarajé Saudades (an intense homesick feeling), the Portuguese word which I finally understood as I embarked on the plane in Salvador tearing me away from home, returning me to the United States. I turned slightly at the door, inhaling one last breath of my beloved Brazil. One more glance etched in my memory. Silently I sat beside my dearest friend, Shelley, as we both allowed the tears to freely flow, feeling the full impact of saudades.

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written by bo, January 16, 2008
Saudades (an intense homesick feeling), the Portuguese word which I finally understood as I embarked on the plane in Salvador tearing me away from home


Shelley, saudades is the EXACT same word as "miss" is in english. What you need to understand is that these morons that have told you, "there isn't an english word that equates with saudade", are 100% full of ignorant s**t. They think the word "miss" means to "miss a test", or, "miss jones", they just don't realize that it also means, "John, I desperately MISS you!" Which is the EXACT same word as Saudade! Funny when Brazilians try and make you feel like they have an emotion that people from other countries simply don't have!!smilies/cheesy.gif

Estou com saudade de voce - translation - I miss you!

Each Monday found me sitting on a bench drinking coconut milk near the beach in Salvador.


Coconut milk? Sure you don't mean agua de coco? Coconut water? They are different you know. Not very common to see someone drinking coconut MILK out of the tiny little brown, hairy coconuts, but certainly is common to see them drinking agua de coco out of the larger, green, coconuts.

For instance, many times when I said I was from the state of Indiana, the response would be 'like Indiana Jones?'.


And some Brazilians rag on americans for not being knowledgeable in geography....I have to laugh. When they ask me where I'm from I clearly say, "West Virginia", and possibly ONE out of the hundreds that have asked me understands, the rest always respond, "ohhh, Virginia, eu conhece alguem que foi para Richmond, blah, blah, blah, blah". And then I ask, "where are you from?" and they'll say something like "Minas Gerais", and I'll say, "Really, well I have a friend that used to live in Fortaleza!!!" smilies/grin.gif Even in the movies here if you read the traducão in portugues they always translate West Virginia to simply Virginia!

A few years later, I had the best of both worlds. I married a Brazilian man I had met while living in Aracaju, Sergipe


Wow, what's his name Tracy? I've been living in Aracaju for a decade now. Obviously you guys didn't plan to live here....wonder why that is? smilies/wink.gif
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written by bo, January 16, 2008
Tracy Reichdan is a freelance writer who lives in Denver, Colorado, USA with her husband and five children.



'bout says it all doesn't it?
Bobão – Part VI
written by ..., January 16, 2008
Bobão, the same old sausage, fizzing and sputtering in his own grease. Unclench your buttocks and release all that bitterness…

Don't be bitter at Brasil because Brasilians enjoy pissing on your self-esteem. Be bitter at your parents for mixing their genes and spawning you,

Yours truly,

Costinha
Treze
written by ..., January 16, 2008
You are as much as Brasilian as I am… And you are always welcome in your Brasil.

Costinha
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written by aes, January 16, 2008
I always enjoy Bo's wit.

True miss means to miss someone, but there are degrees, like pine, yearn, long, weep. I weep for you Argentina. . .hmm. I saudades for you Argentina. English has infinitely more words than Portuguese. Almost all new words, words in science, medicine, mathematics come into English first. The English language is capable of parcing a thought to the nano particle. Sentiment is always sloppy at best, and if your from Indiana that about says it all. I had 100 acers in Indiana a few years back, forest, lake, deer, snow and the bone chilling cold of Indiana winters. How I longed for my halcion days in Hawaii. Brazil is so infinitely more than Indiana. Indiana is of course a state and Brazil a country. But Indiana in its infinite flatnesss is without remarkableness. There are people in Indiana that are so far out in the country they are still using outdoor plumbing. You don't start to get to anything interesting until you hit the transition between Kentucky and North Carolina. It is of course all down hill from there.
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written by maria jose, January 16, 2008
I find Bo's comment to be a waste of my time to have even read. Also, bo needs to read the article a little better. Maybe his English isn't what he thinks. First, Shelley didn't write the article did she, but that is who he addressed his comments to. Also, the writer never said her spouse was from Sergipe, simply that he was Brazilian and she met him there.
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written by kungfuadam, January 16, 2008
Bo- I can't believe the garbage that is spewing forth from you. You are pretending to be knowledgeable on things, such as English, but apparently you pretend to know more than you really do. Saudade is not a very translatable word.

From Wikipedia- Although "saudade" is untranslatable in any other language, there are other words which seem to have a similar meaning. However, the word "saudade" is special in complexity. While other words have similar meanings, they often only relate to one aspect of "saudade".
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written by Gringo, January 16, 2008
I find CHATO a diffilut word to translate, but easily applied to many on this blog.
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written by João da Silva, January 17, 2008
I find CHATO a diffilut word to translate, but easily applied to many on this blog.


That was a fast one. I hope I am not one of them smilies/wink.gif
LONGIN'
written by Kess, January 17, 2008
SAUDADE means LONGING (FOR) in English or AÑORANZA in Spanish.
It's translatable. smilies/smiley.gif
common enough it seems
written by Simpleton, January 17, 2008
I tend to concur with those indicating it is not translatable. Had great difficulty expressing / explaining to friends, family, coworkers both here and there. Clearly not so simple as say a case of severe homesickness such as when one initially goes off to college far from home. At least now I know there is a word for it.
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written by bo, January 17, 2008
First, Shelley didn't write the article did she, but that is who he addressed his comments to. Also, the writer never said her spouse was from Sergipe, simply that he was Brazilian and she met him there.


Sorry, made a mistake about the name, should have been "Tracy". And, it is 100% understandable for someone to assume that the man she met while living in Aracaju would be a sergipano!!

Saudade is not a very translatable word.

From Wikipedia- Although "saudade" is untranslatable in any other language, there are other words which seem to have a similar meaning. However, the word "saudade" is special in complexity. While other words have similar meanings, they often only relate to one aspect of "saudade".


Wikipedia???!!! LMAO!!! smilies/grin.gif

I can go to wikipedia right now and put up a page that says that I'm the king of England!! Wikipedia can be edited by any ole internet slug. But that's par for the course for someone with your intellect to use them as a reference!! smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by Gringo, January 17, 2008
I tend to agree with Bo, it is translatable in most cases (99.9 % of the time MISS does quit well) and it is very annoying to hear people saying that it isn’t and that it is an emotion that only pertains to Brazil, or it is a word “too complicated for foreigners”. Poppyc**ks! There are hundreds of Portuguese and English words that don’t have EXACT translations (If ya want to have fun, ask to translate “borrow n lend” with novices English speakers in Brazil), but for some reason folks have singled out “saudade”.

If there is a deeper meaning to it, maybe I should be questioning my Brazilian mates motives more when they express their “LONGING” for me when I travel? smilies/cry.gif
Me too!!
written by Luke, January 17, 2008
I too was a missionary in Brazil. I worked there from 1999-2001 in the Rio de Janeiro mission. I also worked in Juiz de Fora MG, Nova Iguaçu as well as various bairros of Rio. I also married a Brazilian, Fernanda, and we are hoping to go back either this year or the next. I desperately miss the sights, sounds, and people of Brazil, and no matter how many movies I watch, or how much brazilian music I listen to, or even how much futebol or novelas I watch with my wife on Globo International can replace actually being there and experiencing Brazil. I enjoyed your article and I hope you write more.
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written by João da Silva, January 18, 2008
how much futebol or novelas I watch with my wife on Globo International can replace actually being there and experiencing Brazil.


I am glad that you like watching futebol and novelas on the TV. By the time, you visit us next time, hopefully, Globo will be transmitting their programs digitally, so that you can appreciate them even better.

It is a pity that you don't like to watch our Carnival, but of course I understand fully well the reasons.

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written by xuxinha, January 18, 2008
And, it is 100% understandable for someone to assume ...

Maybe you need to break the word assume down into syllables to see what it really means... smilies/wink.gif
bo
written by supus, January 18, 2008
Bo I've read some of your posts, and sometimes I agree with them and sometimes I don't. I am really curious though, it seems like you really do not like living in Sergipe and maybe Brazil in general. 10 years seems to be a long time to live in a place that you hate. I am just wondering why you don't leave? I lived in Florida once and hated it so much went back to the left coast after a year. I can't imagine 10 years in a place that I hated that much.
João da Silva
written by angelinajolie, January 18, 2008
Ricardo C. Amaral just posted few messages in the Forum under John Fitzpatrick article.....Mr. Lula learns to plan ahead or is it....how to govern your ministers???????? smilies/cool.gif
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written by bo, January 18, 2008
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written by xuxinha, 2008-01-17 19:54:19
And, it is 100% understandable for someone to assume ...

Maybe you need to break the word assume down into syllables to see what it really means...


We all make assumptions, just as you did in your last sentence!! Only an ass would assume that ass-u-me is the definition of the word and also that I "need" something.smilies/wink.gif

If one makes a statement, "Today is a very sad day for our family, we need to go visit my father." And is asked, "Where is your father at?" And the response is, "At the funeral home". It would only be natural to assume that this person's father has just died. Now, if/when learning that a different tragic situation happened, and this person's father was a funeral home director, then one realizes that the situation may not have been as it appeared.

That would be a natural assumption.

Your ridiculous nitpicking at this point holds no water. Trying arguing the points at hand instead of your attempt at diversion! smilies/cool.gif
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written by bo, January 18, 2008
written by supus, 2008-01-17 20:45:10

Bo I've read some of your posts, and sometimes I agree with them and sometimes I don't. I am really curious though, it seems like you really do not like living in Sergipe and maybe Brazil in general. 10 years seems to be a long time to live in a place that you hate. I am just wondering why you don't leave? I lived in Florida once and hated it so much went back to the left coast after a year. I can't imagine 10 years in a place that I hated that much.


I've told this story numerous times before. I have a 6 year old daughter that lives with my brazilian ex-wife. As much as I get frustrated, as much as I yearn to leave this place, as much as it is chock-full-o-mal educada idiotas, I just can't get myself to leave my daughter. Especially in a place like this. She needs a balance and I provide that, besides the love and care of a father.

You see, I was prepared to leave Brazil at the end of 2002, and I made the fatal mistake of giving my ex 6 months notice of my departure thinking she would live in the U.S. with me, as we had made this deal before I ever moved to Brazil. Well, two months after the notice she arrives at home with news she was pregnant. Strange that was, seeing she had always taken birth control and certainly never advised me of her sudden and convenient lapse of memory about taking her pill. But I've come to learn that this is not an uncommon game here in Brazil, I'm not the first gringo it's happened to and sure I wasn't the last.

So knowing then that I had two options, abandon my child in another country and allow her to grow up basically without the participation of her father, maybe get to visit once, at most twice, a year, or suffer myself so that my daughter would not. Well, for me, that's not even an option.

I then convinced previous business partners to invest in Brazil....and we did, and quite significantly.

www.mjrdevelopments.com

www.rosegardenbrazil.com


So, you see, I know have two significant reasons to be here, first and foremost is my daughter.
And let add..
written by bo, January 18, 2008
I don't hate Brazil. And, Aracaju would be a really nice place if we could just get rid of the Sergipanos!!! smilies/grin.gif
Bo
written by supus, January 18, 2008
Thanks for the info. I've been to Aracaju and spent some time in other places in the Northeast. I think I would go crazy if I lived there. I have to say the people along the coast in the Northeast are completely ignorant and untrustworthy. If you go into the sertão the people are beyond ignorant but, on average, more real. Of course in general the northeast is a big dung heap, with its only saving grace being the beaches and a few poorly preserved colonial areas that the local governments are doing their worst to preserve. Much prefer the more sincere people of the south (not the southeast).
Bobão…
written by ..., January 18, 2008
Why don’t you go trim your ingrown toenails?

Costinha
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written by bo, January 18, 2008
Why don’t you go trim your ingrown toenails?

Costinha



What a coinkidink!!! I did that this morning!! smilies/grin.gif
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written by João da Silva, January 18, 2008
Of course in general the northeast is a big dung heap,


It is and will always be, because the "Coroneis" want to keep it that way.However, one has to understand that who wields power in this country right now are those "Coroneis" from that region.

Much prefer the more sincere people of the south


The South lost its voice a long time ago and now is being fully "integrated" into the rest of the country. The biggest problem with the Southerners is exactly due to the reason you gave: They are more "more sincere people"!
Saudade
written by Shellly, January 19, 2008
SAUDADE means LONGING (FOR) in English or AÑORANZA in Spanish.
It's translatable.

I think I understand the problem. One semester we had a discussion about the meaning of yo te amo vs I love you. To me, a Portuguese speaker, yo te amo sounds more emotional. However for an English speaking person I love you has all the feeling in the world. I cannot say to my husband-I love you and feel the same when I say-eu te amo. This has to do with the language I grew up with, nothing to do with the word itself. The emotions are attached to your experience in a language from birth till about 15 years of age. A chair in Spanish is silla, and it has all the colors and smells of the Spanish language. A person is said to be truly immersed in a culture or language if he/she can feel, see, smell, taste a language. In essence, a language is also a sensorial experience. In my opinion, this cannot be 100% achieved since some language cues are given to a fetus while in the womb and during the critical 10 years of a child's life. Saudade is a beautiful word, so I long to see you, I miss you, etc. I long to see you is actually quite sexy smilies/wink.gif and I feel more emotions when I say it.

Now that is a English word which I think has a lot more emotion than in Portuguese, the F word. It can be used in every occasion, pretty much anytime and anywhere. The F word is so diverse and complex, yet is a short 4 letter word.
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written by Ana P., January 19, 2008
Saudade can't be translated because "miss" doesn't do it. "miss" is very superficial not enough to describe such of deep feeling as "saudade" Just read some of the Brazilian poets describe saudade and maybe you will understand or not because to understand the word "saudade" you have to feel it. When you feel saudade you could die from it, lose your appetite and lust for life or have no reason to live at all. The word "miss" surely does not describe this intense feeling.
Ana P.
written by Shellly, January 19, 2008
I don't agree with you. So, basically what you saying that the Anglo culture don't feel saudade? Yes they feel, but in their language. Being a linguistic myself, I can definetely tell you that language is cultural, therefore culturally speaking you will not get the cues necessary to understand it. I long for you and I miss you mean saudade, but the "emotions" you speak are your emotions, those from your culture. Ask you boyfriend or husband if he loves you, look in his eyes and tell me that eu te amo is better than I love you? For him, for sure I love is resonate more honest.
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written by Shellly, January 19, 2008
Well, two months after the notice she arrives at home with news she was pregnant. Strange that was, seeing she had always taken birth control and certainly never advised me of her sudden and convenient lapse of memory about taking her pill. But I've come to learn that this is not an uncommon game here in Brazil, I'm not the first gringo it's happened to and sure I wasn't the last.


I understand your frustration. She was dishonest with you, but you cannot blame your ex-alone. Why did you use a condom? Is it just a woman's job to provide contraception? And by the way, American women play the same game with men, not an uncommon theme. Sorry, but blaming all women for your mistake isn't a clever thing to do.
Bo
written by Shellly, January 19, 2008
Sorry that question was for you and I meant to say, why didn't you use...I respect you a lot more for doing what a lot now. At least you gave up your happiness for your daughter's well being and you are a true gentleman and a wonderful father. You ex is at loss here, not you.

Good luck to you and your daughter has a good role model in her life.
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written by Ana P., January 19, 2008
I am not saying that. I am saying that the word miss do not equal saudade and cannot be use to express such of feeling. Eu te amo equals I love you same thing but miss it is not used to express such of deep feeling more like a light feeling of missing something like I miss going to the bar. No one says eu tenho saudades de ir ao bar, we say "eu sinto falta which equals I miss. Saying "eu sinto de voce" does not mean I have "saudades" but I just miss you for that time being. Saudades is something that hurt so bad that can drive someone crazy or even kill that person because the saudade is so much that you can't live your life without it. Saudade is a feeling not a action.
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written by Ana P., January 19, 2008
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written by Ana P., January 19, 2008
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written by bo, January 19, 2008
Why didn't you use a condom?


Well Shelley, as you probably know, realtionships are based on trust. If you don't have trust, you don't have a relationship, and certainly not a marriage. My ex informed me a year and a half before we got married that she would begin to take "the pill". And she always did, until I informed her I would be returning to the states in 6 months. Now, if you, or anyone, don't believe she had an obligation to tell me she was going to stop to take the pill, well then, we will have to disagree, because that, in my opinion, is about as low as somone can go. That takes the word "enrolar" to a new level. If she would've informed me of this then I would have either used a condom or I would've abstained....and that is the truth. We also discussed having children AFTER we got married, and I always said, "Not yet". And the reason for that was exactly what took place. I wasn't sure that I wanted to continue to live in Brazil, and I wasn't 100% certain that she would go with me to the states, so, the most intelligent thing to do in that situation was to not have children until everyone is sure what they wanted to do and where they wanted to be. I had no reason to mistrust her, she had never lied to me before, not that I'm aware of.

Tell me this, if a woman who is married says she doesn't want to have anymore children, and the husband always wears a condom, and when HE decides alone that he wants another child, or a child, and everytime before they have sex she goes to the bathroom and pokes holes in the end of the condom, and some time later she gets pregnant, do you think it was HER fault? Do you think her husband misled her? Did he deceive her? Of course he did. He was dishonest with her. He had other intentions than honorable ones and with the full knowledge that they were against her wishes. And in respect to children, they are a decision to be made by BOTH a mother AND a father! That is the big problem here, especially in the northeast. Women here feel like they have sole possession and decision making responsibility in respect to children. And I always try to give the benefit of the doubt. I understand, to some degree, why they feel this way, as absentee husbands and fathers here in the northeast are as common as power outages or motorists without respect for others. As it wasn't until approximately 7-8 years ago did a father have "equal rights" in respect to children in a court of law here in Brazil!!! That's absurd, that's "atrasado", that's "backwards" in the definition that we americans use to describe places in the interior of Mississippi or Alabama that still use "outdoor plumbing".

And to illustrate the incredible ignorance of this type of mentality, then, after the child is born, the mother, and her family, act as if the father has no rights to even see his child, participate in their upbringing, etc, simply because he didn't want to have the child in the first place!!! smilies/sad.gif

My daughter had no fault in this, she is innocent. And, even though she is the best thing that has ever happened to me in my life, that still does not excuse the fact that what her mother did was terribly WRONG. You simply don't do what she did to people. Especially not concerning a topic with such importance as children. You don't put others in that situation, and certainly not an innocent child.
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written by bo, January 19, 2008
and everytime before they have sex she goes to the bathroom and pokes holes in the end of the condom



should say, "everytime before they have sex HE goes to the bathroom...." smilies/grin.gif
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written by bo, January 19, 2008
Saudade is a feeling not a action.



"Miss" is also a feeling Ana, you just haven't grown up with the word, as Shelley said, language is cultural. For someone to say, "I miss you terribly", or, "I miss you so much", that is the exact same thing as saying, "Estou morrendo de saudade"!!

It's the exact same thing, I am a native english speaker and speak fluent portuguese. I hear the way "saudade" is used all the time, and it is the EXACT same word and used in the exact same way as we use "Miss".

And for those that disagree they do so because they simply don't know better.
BOBÃO… QUIT WHINING!
written by ..., January 19, 2008
And complaining about every aspect of your life… Stop & Smell the Roses because Life Is Too Short!

You mentioned your daughter as the best triumph of your life and I must applaud that. Perhaps if you would stop contrasting Brasil with the US you might even discover plausible things about Brasil that you have overlooked before.

Enjoy every moment because no one knows what’s ahead. During difficult moments of lingering doubts, you need to vow to faith to fill your heart.

Costinha
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written by Simpleton, January 19, 2008
"And for those that disagree they do so because they simply don't know better."

Guess you got me pegged on that there bo. I spoke little to no portuguese and those that were perceptive to my state spoke absolutely no english. These kind folks did their best to try to shake me out of it / keep me intact / let me know that I could continue onward / that I had their sincere support. I had heard them use this word but had always thought they were saying voce sondade - sono? I thought to myself, no, I am not sleeping / sleepy, in fact that's been nearly impossible for me for months. The time did pass and I did return to where and what was my life before but with a twist. Now it goes the other way and again I am powerless. Maybe there is merit in contemplating mentally what would happen inside yourself if you were going back to the states and only getting to see your daughter for a couple of weeks a couple of times a year (and that with luck in your ex's / her families cooperation in accomodating your schedule). It's fair to say should you do that, you would certainly "miss" your daughter pretty much constantly.
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written by Gringo, January 19, 2008
Costinho, I must commend you on a first post completely and totally devoid of the classic Costinho witticisms we’ve come to despise that usual involve flatulents, skull f**king, bestiality, self mutilation and/or suicide. Parabéns. We knew there was a glimmer of civility in your pea brain. That said; I took the liberty of rewriting one of your sentences to further the lesson plan along and introduce you to the concept of hypocrisy. When you have that in check I’m sure you’ll be invited to sit at the table with the grown ups.

"Perhaps if you would stop contrasting the US with the every nation on earth you might even discover plausible things about US that you have overlooked before."

Um bom dia pra voce!
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written by Simpleton, January 19, 2008
and while you were with her, though you were exceedingly happy and having loads of fun, laughs and love, it would be the same if not worse as you would know that your departure was imminent and unavoidable.
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written by Ana P., January 19, 2008
I have been here for 5 years and speak English very well. Most of people think I was born with here of imigrants parents or came here at a very early age. I know what "miss" mean and it is not saudade. Not. I miss so much means you sinto muito falta de voce not "saudades". Adding "do much" to a word doesn't make that feeling more intense... saudade doesn't need any other words add to it because it is enough to describe such of deep feeling of nostalgia, pain and happiness at the same time.
My opinion and many others and I will not change that. Fernando Pessoa explains better:
could start this article by saying that it is impossible to describe the word saudade. You don´t describe it, you feel it. But I guess you are waiting for me to describe it, right? Ok, ok, I´ll try.

Anyone who has heard Fado music, knows what the word saudade means. Likewise, anyone who knows the word saudade also knows just what Fado is all about. Both words have been weakly translated into other languages. Fado, whose synonyms reside in the Portuguese words sina and destino, is translated into English as fate and into German as Schicksal. In every equivalent swings an unconstrained fatalism, an accommodation to the paths chosen for us by others. As a famous Portuguese Fadosinger would say, all this is fado: to accept poverty, love, sorrows, and misfortunes of every kind, but not to fall in indignity, to keep your head up, even if with an inevitable sadness.

Maybe it isn’t be necessary to speak about Fado to describe the word saudade. But to explain a term which is officially one of the world’s seven most untranslatable words, one needs to find a term of comparison, a bridge that links the people to the expression.

To start with, saudade has been being translated into English as to miss. But this simple verb cannot cover the inherent meanings of a word with the strength of all language’s forms: verb, noun, and adjective all succumb to the larger feeling of saudade.

To have saudades (the verb, ter saudades), is the act of feeling, it’s to long for something, to remember or be remembered, to be needed or to need, to miss or to be missed. And saudade is a feminine word often used in the plural to designate the state of missing someone or something, a lifetime, a memory. You cannot just have saudades of someone. It covers the feeling of missing that which never was, the All and the Nothing, all that no longer is, that could have been, that passed away, those silences that we have lost or no longer see or experience.

One does not underestimate the word by applying it to every single side of life. Because saudade is inherent in us, the fact of being Portuguese forces us to have saudades. And we have them without noticing, and without worrying about the allied feelings: the pain, the sadness, the loneliness, the suffering, the nostalgia.

So what does one do when one has saudades? Well… nothing. There is no medicine for this pain. One just has to let time go on, wait for better days. In the meantime, for those who are feeling it for the first time, or who would like to find a way to feel it, I recommend the purchase of a couple of Fado cds on a grey Winter day, perhaps just after finding an old photo between the pages of a book. Anything works as an excuse for having saudades. What matters is to have them!

Saudades, only the Portuguese

are able to feel them well.

Because they have the word

to say that they have them.

- Fernando Pessoa (1888-1935)


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written by Ana P., January 19, 2008
It is not her sole responsibility to have to remember to take the pill. You shoudl easily wear a condom, it doesn't matter if you trust the person or not, a condom is something you have to use to prevent treatable diseases such of cervix cancer which is transmitted byt the man(the carrier), he doesn't have the disease but the virus which can be deadly to woman. Also it is possible that she will forget to take it or do it on purpose... You can go to any " juiz de familia" and settle the case and share custody and be able to have your daughter for half of the year with you in the US or have full custody if you are able to provide a better life for her which from what you say you are very well off and since you said education is better in the US that would count on your favor as well same thing goes with the violence, whores and homesexuals where you live. You would be able to take her away from such of poisonous enviroment.
Aes, you could have stayed quiet and spared us
written by A Brazilian, January 19, 2008
English has infinitely more words than Portuguese.


This is probably one of the most ridiculous statements I have ever read in my life. All those scientific terms come from either greek or latin. If you mean "new words" then you must be referring to rappers. We also have idiots inventing new words all the time around here too, because they lack formal education.
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written by Gringo, January 19, 2008
Saudades, only the Portuguese are able to feel them well.


More simplistic sophomoric nationalistic romanticism and bigotry painted up to poorly resemble a halfhearted attempt at objectivity.
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written by Gringo, January 19, 2008
This is probably one of the most ridiculous statements I have ever read in my life. All those scientific terms come from either greek or latin. If you mean "new words" then you must be referring to rappers. We also have idiots inventing new words all the time around here too, because they lack formal education.


Ape, you little oxygen deprived at birth bigot. English has, documented (not counting the rap you brought up) well over 500,000 words, next in line is Germany with about 200,000 and the French who it is believed only have about 100,000. I agree it appears that Portuguese has ten billion ways to say “I was”, depending on the conjugation, but the language is devoid of adjectives and many important nouns found in English. Adding INHA and ÃO after words shouldn’t constitute a new word, but even if you did (you know BIG FIRE, what we call oven, you call fogão), the Portuguese language would still be far behind English. It´s a language that is developing, while the Latin Languages are, well, not developing as much or you woulnd´t find the need to use ENGLISH words daily to make your points understood or talk about technology.

I’m sorry if easily verifiable facts offend your nationalistic sensibilities.
The Ugly Grin-GO
written by ..., January 19, 2008
With all those voices inside your head, did you take your medicine today?

I bet when you shake your head, the sound of a marble rolling around a tin can is heard for miles around. Learn from your parents mistake and use birth control.

I was going to suggest that you sit on your TV and watch the couch!

Up yours,

Costinha

PS: Hehehehe
plausible things about US
written by ..., January 19, 2008
George W. Bush.....Hehehehe

Costinha
How can anyone argue with that?
written by ..., January 19, 2008
Indeed… English is the richest language in the world!

They even have two versions of the same… English and American English. Let’s examine some of its expressions and words:

ShowMoò - Michael Jackson.

Nukear – George W. Bush (the man can not pronounce nuclear).

WhatZup Dog – Americans referring to each other on the streets.

Buddy – White salutation to someone you don’t know.

Cuz – Black salutation to someone you don’t know.

Carpet Bombing – Pentagon’s expression for killing foreigners.

Collateral Damage - Pentagon’s expression for killing their own.

Spamming – What many do on this board.

I never had sex with that woman – Clinton’s way of shuving cigars up young girls

n****rs, Spikis, Honkies, Kikes, Chinkers – The way Americans polarize each other.

Please feel free to continue the list….

Costinha
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written by e harmony, January 19, 2008
Ana P.
written by Shellly, 2008-01-18 20:00:05
I don't agree with you. So, basically what you saying that the Anglo culture don't feel saudade? Yes they feel, but in their language. Being a linguistic myself, I can definetely tell you that language is cultural, therefore culturally speaking you will not get the cues necessary to understand it. I long for you and I miss you mean saudade, but the "emotions" you speak are your emotions, those from your culture. Ask you boyfriend or husband if he loves you, look in his eyes and tell me that eu te amo is better than I love you? For him, for sure I love is resonate more honest.


I remember my hardcore Republican, 100% American, who would translate Italian into American English for people, telling me that you rarely can translate all words in certain language 100%. So, he said the art of translation comes down to attempting to translate *ideas.*

The word "miss" in American-English (I'm not sure how it is used for the Brits or Aussies) is hardly a word implicating a lot of heart felt longing. It can be used that way, but it rarely is. Generally the word "miss" is used in a very superficial way. If you think because a muthaf**ka in America tells you they "miss you" means they're going to give you a cheeseburger if they pass you sitting homeless and hungry on the street you've got another thing coming.
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written by e harmony, January 20, 2008
Aes, you could have stayed quiet and spared us
written by A Brazilian, 2008-01-19 14:47:09

English has infinitely more words than Portuguese.



This is probably one of the most ridiculous statements I have ever read in my life. All those scientific terms come from either greek or latin. If you mean "new words" then you must be referring to rappers. We also have idiots inventing new words all the time around here too, because they lack formal education.


American English does have a huge amount of words. This is mainly due to slang words being added into the dictionary every year. The French claim that the English language having to many words creates the problem with English speakers not having the state of mind to choose the right words when they speak. Maybe? I don't know. Regardless many words in English like "bad" or "pimp" or "f*ck" can be used many, many, different ways. It usually depends on the tone that speaker uses that will connote its meaning. But unlike the "Romance Languages" like Italian, English only has one word for "love." Italian if I remember correctly has something like four different words for "love" and each one connoting a specific *kind* of love. I'm not sure if Portuguese is this way or not.

But this really is not a matter of which language is better, not in my mind at least, rather it is simply how languages differ and how obstacles result in attempting translations.
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written by e harmony, January 20, 2008
I remember my hardcore Republican, 100% American, who would translate Italian into American English for people


Err... I meant to say, "my hardcore Republican friend."

I only mentioned him being Republican because some people might associate his views otherwise with being "liberal" and "politically correct."
American idiocy
written by A Brazilian, January 20, 2008
This is mainly due to slang words being added into the dictionary every year.


In other countries is not so easy to add slang to a dictionary, and in my opinion this is a good thing, but that brings us the "rapper" reality. If you do accept anything as valid, is this good?

But this really is not a matter of which language is better, not in my mind at least, rather it is simply how languages differ and how obstacles result in attempting translations.


I agree. I have never heard any talk about "which language is better" because languages are just the means to express ideas. The idea that somehow English is better because it would use "Big fire" for translating "fogão", which in portuguese is a complete different word from "fogo", is ludicrous. Just as ludicrous as Gringo's and Aes' affirmations. They are just gringos trying to do some self-affirmation, probably because they don't have much self-esteem and they don't want to look stupid.

Besides a huge quantity of words, especially scientific ones, come from either latin or greek. Why are Americans trying to claim "ownership" over those? Especially them, that in a complete lack of taste don't even spell the words as they should do in their own language. For example, does it make any sense to use words from the second declination of latin, ending in 'um' with the plural form in 'a''? It would make sense in latin, but not in any other language. This makes English look like a bunch of words put together artificially.
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written by Gringo, January 20, 2008
American English does have a huge amount of words. This is mainly due to slang words being added into the dictionary every year.


No. May we remind you of the massive technological advances over the last 100 years, mostly from English countries, and you’ll see why the english lexicon has grown so much. It is NOT just slang, nor gansta shiite (btw, most academics leave that crap out of the official number, regardless if it is spoken in the hood by all the usual societal gems).

The French claim that the English language having to many words creates the problem with English speakers not having the state of mind to choose the right words when they speak.


What the heck is this supposed to mean? Fewer words gives you a better state of mind to choose the right words when speaking? Huh? I think someone is pulling your leg. You don’t speak other languages do you? Don’t forget, these Latin languages (French, Italian, Portuguese, and Spanish) waste valuable communicative time with the multitude of conjugations depending on circumstances and time, and in placing feminine and masculine qualities with nouns and the corresponding articles. Talk about wasting time to get across even the most simplistic of ideas..

But unlike the "Romance Languages" like Italian, English only has one word for "love." Italian if I remember correctly has something like four different words for "love" and each one connoting a specific *kind* of love. I'm not sure if Portuguese is this way or not.


Huh? There are more words for love than AMORE in Italian? News to me. Maybe you mean they don´t use Amore as flippantly as we English speakers use love. We LOVE everything. We LOVE cars, We LOVE the weather, We LOVE sports, We LOVE taunting idiots like APE, where as in Portuguese LOVE is very specific to to people and maybe pets. Voce ama sua mae, mas voce gosta seu caro. You would never LOVE your car.

But this really is not a matter of which language is better, not in my mind at least, rather it is simply how languages differ and how obstacles result in attempting translations.


I agree somewhat... But the English language is more efficient, and it is this efficiency that has it being used internationally in business.
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written by Gringo, January 20, 2008
The idea that somehow English is better because it would use "Big fire" for translating "fogão", which in portuguese is a complete different word from "fogo", is ludicrous.


Hey Ape, what do you folks call coffins? Caixão? translation: BIG BOX... smilies/grin.gif
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written by Gringo, January 20, 2008
Why are Americans trying to claim "ownership" over those?


They don´t, and for your information neither do the English, English speaking Canadians, Austrailans or Kiwis. Got that?
Grin-GO got squashed like a roach that he is
written by ..., January 20, 2008
Shut-up… Looks like you lost that argument… BUAAA… BUAAA… BUAAA…

You’ve gone past the boundaries of logic; you are now entering the Starship Enterprise of stupidity, going where no idiot has ever gone before.

Gringão Bicha Louca… Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever. People that quantum-stupid should be f.u.cking quarantined!

You may now kiss our arses.

Yours truly,

Costinha

PS: Hehehehe
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written by bo, January 20, 2008
Stop & Smell the Roses because Life Is Too Short!



It's not easy in the northeast of brazil when people take public s**ts on them and then rob you as you stop to appreciate their beauty.


And Ana P., I certainly wouldn't think that a stripper would know anything about integrity and honesty....so no surprise there.
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written by Ana P., January 20, 2008
You are most certainly wrong, Bo. I have more integrity than your ex-wife that yourself said "set you up" to get your money by saying she was on the pill. Stripping is what I do for a living it is not what I am or represent me as a person. Before I strip I was a person with my own beliefs and was taught very early on the importance of being honest. Stripping is a honest work since I am not stealing from anyone or doing anything illegal but I can say that over and over and you wouldn't understand or agree with it because you have your mentality set on to believe a stripper is not a person and therefore can possess integrity. Like I said before, I dont believe you are what you said you are because I would assume you would be on your late 30's, 40's or even 50's and have lived a lot to know better and not judge people from what they do for a living. If you were the person you claimed to be you would be well travelled and have a high knowledge of people in general and have run into people from walk of life. You would know there are honest people and dishonest in all professions, social classes, backgrounds, religions,etc not only limited to someone to one specific profession.
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written by bo, January 20, 2008
Ana...I know strippers in the U.S. well. I had several short-term relationships with several. And they're all f**ked up in the head. They've either been raped or abused by their father, or an uncle, or someone. Or they're drug-heads, or they're straight-up whores, which the vast majority are anyway.

Don't try and get all moral with us Ana, lol. We've had this discussion before. None of us here need lessons in morality from a stripper. Especially one that thinks it's a good example to set for her kid.
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written by bo, January 20, 2008
You can go to any " juiz de familia" and settle the case and share custody and be able to have your daughter for half of the year with you in the US or have full custody if you are able to provide a better life for her which from what you say you are very well off and since you said education is better in the US that would count on your favor as well same thing goes with the violence, whores and homesexuals where you live. You would be able to take her away from such of poisonous enviroment.



And also Ana, could you be anymore full of s**t? I've already been to court over my daughter, more than once. And how wrong you are in some respects. There is not ONE judge in all of Brazil that will allow a non-brazilian parent to leave brazil with their child....not ONE! A father here in Brazil cannot even leave his home state with his child without permission from a judge or the mother of his child.

Like I said before, I dont believe you are what you said you are because I would assume you would be on your late 30's, 40's or even 50's and have lived a lot to know better and not judge people from what they do for a living. If you were the person you claimed to be you would be well travelled and have a high knowledge of people in general and have run into people from walk of life. You would know there are honest people and dishonest in all professions, social classes, backgrounds, religions,etc not only limited to someone to one specific profession.


What do I claim to be Ana? LOL!! Ana, I'm a millionaire, so f**king what. There are only around 30 million or more millionaires in the U.S. It's not a big f**king deal. I don't find it hilarious when others find it so hard to believe though. Go to my site..... www.mjrdevelopments.com That first house, the one that says "Morada da Praia II", the white and green one, that's where I'm posting from right now, that's where I live. It cost me 1.3 million reais to build....so what? If you see the "Rose Gardens" projects on that site, those are also mine. The raw land I own is worth around 2.5 million reais at this moment.....so what?

And unfortunately, I've spent LOTS of time in strip clubs in my day, as I've stated, I know that atmosphere well. And they're all the same, if you've been in one drug infested, prostitute-filled, mob based strip club, you've been in them all.

By the way, how'd that fire turn out?

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written by bo, January 20, 2008
I don't find it hilarious when others find it so hard to believe though.



I DO find it hard to believe.....
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written by bo, January 20, 2008
I do find it hilarious....LOL. I need to go to bed. smilies/smiley.gif
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written by Ana P., January 20, 2008
I know many millionaires and they sure do not act like a child. Actually one of my costumers is a self-made millionaire, he was a foster home child now owns most of Hawaii. I have moved months ago, Bo, I now live in Minneapolis very cosmopolitan city and full of very high end strip clubs by the way.
If you say Brazil is so horrible I am sure the judge would see that and give you the child so you can save her from the homosexuals that live close to your house. I know the "juiz de familia" gives the child for the one that is able to provide a better life for them and keep them in a safe enviroment.
I said you "claimed to be the person you are" I didn't mean a millionaire, I mean a business man who is smart, well travelled and have a vast knowledge of live. How many strip clubs did you visit on your lifetime and how many strippers did you got to know as person and actually sat down and had a conversation with? You are judging everyone as a whole when we are all individuals who have different backgrounds and family history. It is like me saying all lawyers are corrupt, all blacks are ghetto, all whites can't dance, etc . Stereotyping is not something an educated person normally do. You sound like a teenager very immature and full of labels and preconcepted ideas about people based on popular views.
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written by Ana P., January 20, 2008
Back in your day you have been in the strip clubs? Did you know strip clubs were sold to big corporations in the 90's and most have brand all over the country own by one single corporation not the mob. Only small clubs which I assume the ones you visited are the ones owned by a single person, normally are what people refer to as a "dive" "whole in the wall". I worked in a 6 million dollars club in Phx:
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written by A Brazilian, January 20, 2008
Wasn't Bo the one that said some time ago that his wife was morena, then changed it to "black" when it was conveninent and used to tell stories of trips he had just made with her? And now he tells this sad story.... humm...
Bo-hi-Bo-lo-Ana-po
written by Simpleton, January 20, 2008
AnaP, never mind bo for now, he's just feeling a bit over charged. Thanks for your attempt to describe. I'll take a pass on the Fado for now. Too much N-A rap and pop blasting in my ears from every corner restaurante and bar for me to be receptive. What do you do (if anything) to block this out during your working hours? I'm looking forward to the roar from the surf or an un-human syncopated symphony of the forest to wash out this polluted poisonous clutter. Maybe after I'll be interested in taking in something new, folkish, whatnot.

If "the fact of being Portuguese forces us to have saudades" is true, I guess I should count myself lucky to not be one and to have avoided this for nearly a lifetime.
Gringo
written by A Brazilian, January 20, 2008
English is not used because it is more efficient, but because it is SIMPLER. It is simpler than most languages. It doesn't have verb conjugation nor noun declination. Basically English is a (way too much) simplified German with some Latin words in it.
Ana P. (what is that P for?)
written by ..., January 20, 2008
Ana Pxxx, why don’t you share with all of us your pictures dressed in your birth suit? Why Do You Keep Sitting On Pinocchio's Face Moaning, "Lie To Me!" ???

Your Costinha
Bobão…
written by ..., January 20, 2008
I am posting this information:
“
Go to my site..... www.mjrdevelopments.com That first house, the one that says "Morada da Praia II", the white and green one, that's where I'm posting from right now, that's where I live. It cost me 1.3 million reais to build....so what? If you see the "Rose Gardens" projects on that site, those are also mine. The raw land I own is worth around 2.5 million reais at this moment.....so what?
“

At the “Al Quaeda” website… Happy hunting Bobão.

Your Costa
Bobão… Quick Question?
written by ..., January 20, 2008
Are you on the first or second floor? So that they can aim better.... Hehehehe

Your Costa
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written by Ana P., January 20, 2008
LOL simpleton. Rap cannot be played at my club. You are only allowed to play music that doesn't hurt the customers ears. Rap or hip hop is considered ghetto at my club, that's why we only had 5 black girls(no ghetto) out of 200 girls working at my old club.
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written by bo, January 20, 2008
If you say Brazil is so horrible I am sure the judge would see that and give you the child so you can save her from the homosexuals that live close to your house. I know the "juiz de familia" gives the child for the one that is able to provide a better life for them and keep them in a safe enviroment.



Not if you're a foreign parent that will take the child out of the country. You are a typical stripper, they accidentally removed your brains when they inserted the silicone.

How many strip clubs did you visit on your lifetime and how many strippers did you got to know as person and actually sat down and had a conversation with? You are judging everyone as a whole when we are all individuals who have different backgrounds and family history. It is like me saying all lawyers are corrupt, all blacks are ghetto, all whites can't dance, etc . Stereotyping is not something an educated person normally do


Back in your day you have been in the strip clubs? Did you know strip clubs were sold to big corporations in the 90's and most have brand all over the country own by one single corporation not the mob. Only small clubs which I assume the ones you visited are the ones owned by a single person, normally are what people refer to as a "dive" "whole in the wall".



Ana, you talk if I'm some old man. I'm 41 years old...soon to be 42. Unfortunately, I visited numerous strip clubs from the mid 80's until the late 1990's. I say unfortunately because I used to frequent those kinds of clubs, I was lost and looking to fulfill something inside of me, I was looking in the wrong places. Clubs such as, "the gold club", "Pure Platinum", and "Cheetah's". Not small clubs....and all of those I've just mentioned are large chains with locations all across the U.S. that have been investigated for links to the mafia. The "Gold Club" in Atlanta Georgia was shut down and the property now belongs to the U.S. federal gov't. I know, I lived in Atlanta from 1993-2000 and visited it numerous times. NBA players frequented the bar and the bar was busted for prostitution. The strippers used to give blowjobs to the players upstairs in the private lounge. This is public knowlege, it was in all the papers, the owner went to prison.

And as far as judging people, I've only judged you from what you yourself have posted here. You work in a strip club because the money is good and so you can spend more time with your child? Great role model. Teach the kid that if you can make good money without having to work too hard it doesn't matter if you're in a dangerous environment, it doesn't matter if you are amoral. You grew up in Brazil which lost it's moral compass centuries ago, no surprise that you'd go to the U.S. and live the life of a stripper. For you you're not doing anything wrong, one day you will see, and more than likely see the consequences of your actions in your child. It's sad. It will be sad for him. Do you think he'll be able to go to school and talk about his mother with pride? "So boys and girls, today we're going to talk about our parents occupations, so what does your mommy do Johnny?" "Well, my mommy goes to work in a dental floss bikini to a place called the Cheetah and when she comes home, sometimes not until the next day for lunch, we sit and count all of her 1 dollar bills, there are hundreds of them!" Very nice...something to be proud of, especially in America. The place where you only have to have "desire" to work and one can do anything he wants. It will take time, discipline, desire, but one will achieve. There are no easy shortcuts. What we DO as parents are directly reflected in our children, not so much what we say. In other words, talk is cheap, you live a life of example through example. "Does as I say not as I do" just doesn't get it.

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written by bo, January 20, 2008
Local Strip Club Tied To Mob?
FBI Questions Vegas Commissioners Who Snubbed Original Probe


SAN DIEGO -- Police might be looking for connections between organized crime and Cheetahs strip club, 10News reported.

A couple of years ago, Las Vegas police had reason to suspect a connection between the owners of Cheetahs and organized crime. However, the investigation was cut short when there was a lack of support from the city's commissioners. According to 10News, the three commissioners who prevented the Vegas sting are currently being investigated for political corruption.

Michael Galardi is the owner of Cheetahs in San Diego. He is the son of strip club mogul, Jack Galardi. Together, they own more than a dozen strip clubs from San Diego to Miami. Three years ago, they wanted to open another club in Las Vegas called The Gold Club.

Coincidentally, there was a strip bar called The Gold Club in operation in Atlanta. According to 10News, that club was the subject of a huge scandal involving NBA players and members of a known organized crime family -- the Gambinos.

The owner of the Atlanta Gold Club was Steve Kaplan who has denied any connection to the Galardis.

Jack Galardi owns four other strip clubs in Atlanta, including one called Crazy Horse.

There is also a Crazy Horse strip club in Las Vegas whose owner has reported friendships with organized crime figures.

According to 10News, police in Las Vegas were eager to investigate Jack Galardi. They asked for $10,000 to go to Atlanta and meet with a grand jury investigating the Gold Club/Gambino connection.

But because Las Vegas commissioner Mary Kincaid-Chauncey and former commissioners Dario Herrera and Erin Kenny refused to spend the money, the investigation was stalled.

Now Herrera, Kenny and Kincaid-Chaunceyare being questioned by FBI agents.

Kincaid-Chauncey confirmed Wednesday that the FBI has named her as a target of their investigation into political corruption.

http://www.10news.com/news/2220670/detail.html
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written by bo, January 20, 2008
Wasn't Bo the one that said some time ago that his wife was morena, then changed it to "black" when it was conveninent and used to tell stories of trips he had just made with her? And now he tells this sad story.... humm...


This is my second wife Abe that is black. She prefers to be called morena. To me she's black. You guys are the ones all hung up on being called "negro" or "negra" or "moreno, morena", I have no problem with it and don't understand why brazilians seem to.
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written by bo, January 20, 2008
Are you on the first or second floor? So that they can aim better.... Hehehehe

Your Costa


The secretary of state is my neighbor, the president of the OAB is over to my right, a brazilian minister is a few houses away. Nine armed security guards every night. Tell 'em to come on down!!! smilies/wink.gif
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written by bo, January 20, 2008
Saudades, only the Portuguese

are able to feel them well.

Because they have the word

to say that they have them.

- Fernando Pessoa (1888-1935)



And that is the most ignorant bunch of horses**t that I've ever read in my life. And there it is folks, people that speak portuguese have a different emotion than the rest of the human race!!! smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by Gringo, January 20, 2008
Are you on the first or second floor? So that they can aim better.... Hehehehe


Ah, THIS is the little favela rat that we know and love. Bem vindo de volta, trutinho. Resorting to violence again I see, well, this is Brazil; a nation that prefers guns when words fail.

I love Ape and Costinha for the very simple fact that they alone unequivocally prove in just two or three posts what has taken Ch.c months to explain. Congrats! I really feel sorry for the Brazilians in this nation that do have a head on their shoulders, than need to put up with these ubiquitous primates.

English is not used because it is more efficient, but because it is SIMPLER. It is simpler than most languages. It doesn't have verb conjugation nor noun declination. Basically English is a (way too much) simplified German with some Latin words in it.


Yes it is easier to learn and hence more efficient for international use. Duh. Ape, you are truly a sorry case, and yes English is a Germanic language, like pork n cheese is the bastardization of Spanish. That does not negate the fact that English has almost double or triple the words than the Portuguese language and hence is far richer (which was the point of this whole exercise), and that “saudade” is not some magical mystical untranslatable word that only favela farts can feel (another point). Got that? Again, I am really and truly sorry that easily verifiable and undisp**able facts naw at your retarded, bordering on psychopathic, nationalism.

Bo, nice home! It must send these idiots spinning in their sleep to know a gringo is doing MILLIONS better than them in Brazil, and hasn’t resorted to the old Brazilian business model which is to steal or move into politics!

Ape, don’t worry, I think I gave you a fiver last night for parking my car so keep saving and maybe if you are lucky you can move from the favela into a home made of concrete one day, too.

Costinho... ah, never mind.
Gringo, the kid
written by A Brazilian, January 20, 2008
Yes it is easier to learn and hence more efficient for international use. Duh.


I liked the Duh part. It is very scholar. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha.

Only in the mind of a complete idiot "more words" means something more than "more words". Languages are means to communicate ideas, i.e., the ideas themselves aren't bound to the glyphs that form the words. Some languages like Portuguese, which is a neo-latin language and not a "spanish bastardization", have verbal tenses that aren't found in any other. But how would you say the same thing in English, if they lack that specific verbal tense? By replacing it by something else that will do the job.

English is no big deal, a kind of German for dummies, but with the vowels broken.

Go back to your room now...
Grin-GO
written by Costinha, January 20, 2008
I took the liberty of rewriting one of your sentences to further the lesson plan along and introduce you to the concept of honesty. When you have that in check I’m sure you’ll be invited to sit at the table with human beans.

Ah, THIS is the little fighting crap that we know and love. Bem vindo de volta, trutinha. Resorting to violence again I see, well, this is the United States; a rogue nation that always prefers guns when words fail (the Monroe Doctrine).


There… Um bom dia pra voce!

Grin-GO
written by ..., January 20, 2008
I Have Stepped And Squished Bugs Smarter Than You! When your IQ rises to 28, sell.

Yours truly,

Costinha
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written by Gringo, January 20, 2008
I liked the Duh part. It is very scholar.


Ya it’s kinda like….

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha.
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Only in the mind of a complete idiot "more words" means something more than "more words"


Speaking of languages and translations, you care to translate this gem into something even marginally understandable?

Languages are means to communicate ideas


Hold the fort; I think Ape is on to something. Let me get this straight. Languages are means to communicate ideas? DEEP. Really deep Ape.

English is no big deal, a kind of German for dummies, but with the vowels broken.


English IS easy (although you are proving this incorrect with the way you are butchering it). I’ve already stated that English is an easy language to learn, the world knows it and you have a choice: learn English and the world is your oyster, or ignore it and live an isolated life. Well, of course you could learn Portuguese and get ahead in Angola and East Timor, but I digress. You decided to learn English at one point instead of Estonian, or Dutch, or Swahili why? Because it is more efficient and more useful if you want to get around on this planet.

But none of this changes the fact that, as I´ve simply stated, the English language has a far richer lexicon of words than most others, if not all. Sure, I know for pea brains like you it is better to use ONE word to describe both Lend and Borrow, but hey some of us prefer our “communicating of ideas” to be a bit more exact. smilies/wink.gif

Ape, you really make me laugh on line, but the sad fact is that there are millions of you and Costinhas on the streets in Brazil, and that worries me.
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written by Gringo, January 20, 2008
I Have Stepped And Squished Bugs Smarter Than You! When your IQ rises to 28, sell.


Good for you Costinha, now go run along.
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written by Ana P., January 20, 2008
I feel deeply sorry for you as a person, BO. I hope you daughter doesn't learn to be dishonest thru what you do for a living which is selling overprice houses to Brazilians and gringos that dont know any better in Brazil. What a great example you are to her! You stealing from people! I hope you can sleep at night! You criticize Brazil such much and you feel you are better than us, have higher morals, etc, I don't understand why you are raising your daughter there, it doesn't make sense. By the way she is being raised in Brazil, the Brazilian way so that means she will have no morals either.
I am so socked at your response, really... wow how can someone actually think they are a superior being because of their nationality and think because you are from a certainly nationality that will make you a amoral, a thief, dishonest person immediately like it is part of your DNA or something. WOW! WOW! WOW ALL I CAN SAY!
From my posts here people can tell I am not the typical stripper not even the typical 24 yr old girl... It is easy to "read" people even thru their words on the net imagine if you were able to meet that person.
I never said you were a old man, I say you were older which normally makes people wiser more able to tell about other people with knowledge of the world and its people. I think growing older is amazing thing because you can learn such much more than a younger person even if the younger one spent years in college, the older people will always be wiser thru life experiences, of course there are exceptions and you are one of them.
As for the strip clubs: The mob owned are in jail long ago... I am not going to try to convince you otherwise, it is a waste of time and energy to even try to reasoning with such of narrow-minded judgemental a*****e (for the lack of better words in English).
I have a happy family with a beautiful healthy smart son that does very well in school and will be provided with things I never had as child and will never go hungry. I am sure he will value the sacrifices I made for him in life to provide him with an education and be able to "be there" for him when he needed even if it was just for a talk. I wouldn't want to slave myself on a corporate job and never see my child like many moms do and later my son go inside a school and shoot his teacher and classmates. I am sure the mother of the kids that did were strippers, I AM SURE OF THAT.
I posted a link about Diablo Cody the ex-stripper that wrote "Juno" and you didn't even mentioned anything about it.
If lawyer defends a client knowing he is guilty(example: he raped minors or kill someone), does it make the lawyer a bad person or he is just doing his job?
Like I said I am not stealing, not murdering or hurting anyone neither doing anything illegal. I can look myself at the mirror and feel good about myself same goes with looking at my son's eyes and family. I can sleep sound asleep at night as well...
Grin-GO (norrhea)
written by ..., January 20, 2008
Thank you so much “AGAIN” for thinking of me, as you keep mentioning my name all over this board. These feelings are not mutual!

I noticed you keep having delusions of competence. As such, I was going to try to explain something to you but it is like trying to squeeze orange juice out of an apple.

You know how light travels faster than sound. That’s why you first appeared bright until we heard you speak. Meantime, don’t try to steal a free sample!

First of all you're an idiot. And second...nah, that pretty much covers it.

Costinha

PS: Hehehe

Ana Pxxx
written by ..., January 20, 2008
You are too wordy… All I need is a lap dance!

Costinha
Bo Ana P.
written by Shellly, January 20, 2008
Now, if you, or anyone, don't believe she had an obligation to tell me she was going to stop to take the pill, well then, we will have to disagree, because that, in my opinion, is about as low as someone can go. That takes the word "enrolar" to a new level.


You are in a terrible situation. Can you find a good lawyer in Brazil? I think is a brave thing to stay somewhere you don't like just for the sake of your daughter's well being. She was dishonest, you can't change the past, but the future can be better for both of you. Now, if I was a guy I would have used a condom, you weren't so sure about whether or not she would go to the States with you. I know a relationship should be based on trust, but I got the vibe that you weren't 100% sure about it. I think in the end, you didn't trust your gut feeling and got taken for a ride. Yes, she played it low. Don't let her family get in the way between you and your kid. Remind them that a lot of Brazilian man walk away, but you stayed.

And to illustrate the incredible ignorance of this type of mentality, then, after the child is born, the mother, and her family, act as if the father has no rights to even see his child, participate in their upbringing, etc, simply because he didn't want to have the child in the first place!!! smilies/sad.gif


Wave them a few $$ and they will become your best friend. However, I am sure you would rather have a relationship based on trust and camaraderie.

By the way, now is smack time. I don't think anyone should judge what Ana P does with her life. Tell me who doesn't have skeletons in the closet? I agree with her, she is not killing, lying or robbing anyone. I just wonder how is she going to tell her kid that she is a stripper. Also, Ana you little darling will have friends as he grows, Will parents prohibit their sons/daughters from speaking to your son? I am just wondering how you would deal with the situation. You know, not everyone is non-judging. In fact, this is hard to find these days and the reality is that people will judge your son-he will be known as the "son of a stripper". I am sure you just go in and do your business, has not used drugs, but people in general will not trust you or your son. I work full-time and cannot be with my kids 24 hours--Does that make me a bad mother?

I wouldn't want to slave myself on a corporate job and never see my child like many moms do and later my son go inside a school and shoot his teacher and classmates.


You know Ana, you just shot yourself in the foot here. You are judging the parents of the children. Equally, you are exaggerating the facts here. Not every child of a working mother will do such things. These kids have mental issues to begin with. Don't worry, in Brazil you are more likely to die from a lost bullet than in an American school. Fear not. Why do you think your child is better off than those kids? Logic tells me that each one of us do what is best for our family. The fact that I work full-time, does not make me a bad mum. There are several types of slavery. I am a corporate slave, you are slave of the stripping business.

However, when I go for parent day, I can proudly say what I do and where I work. Today, my daughter got caught plagiarizing and I was glad to tell her teacher that I can help her because I know how to use MLA or APA. It made my daughter proud and I could tell her English teacher what I do in life. Your son will not be 5 years old forever. Good luck to you.

Saudade can be translated. Language is part of culture and cannot be separated from it. Here is a website, hopefully will it help. Saudade means nothing to a Japanese, only to a Portuguese person because we grew up with certain cultural cues in order to understand it the way we do. Fernando Pessoa was talking out of his ass. I have read a lot of poetry and it is also a cultural experience. Nationalism was part of his repertoire.. You can train yourself up to a point, but as I said, you have to born in a culture to 100% get it.

http://anthro.palomar.edu/language/default.htmhelp


In America, people will say I miss you for everything. It looses the meaning (for us), but not for them. In Britain, people say it when there is a need to. The English are more reserved, not cold as people would like to portray. I found the English man and women to be incredibly honest with their feelings. Everyone needs to understand that America and the U.K. although "speak the same language", both are TOTALLY different cultures. I could think of a hundred or more examples of how language and culture are intertwined and mean different things in each country.
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written by Gringo, January 20, 2008
Thank you so much “AGAIN” for thinking of me


It’s not a problem, I live in Brazil and I’m sadly reminded of you knuckle draggers daily.

I was going to try to explain something to you but it is like trying to squeeze orange juice out of an apple.


Well, there’s your problem. The very fact that you would even try to squeeze orange juice from an apple speaks volumes.

That’s why you first appeared bright until we heard you speak.


How did you hear me speak? And not to worry, I didn’t make the same mistake you did. I knew from the start you weren’t too bright.

First of all you're an Idiot. And second...nah, that pretty much covers it.


First of all you're Brazilian. And second...nah, that pretty much covers it.

Now, run along and play with the other children, the grown ups are talking.
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written by Shellly, January 20, 2008
I wouldn't want to slave myself on a corporate job and never see my child like many moms do and later my son go inside a school and shoot his teacher and classmates.


You were asking people not to judge you, but you are quick to judge us working parents. Double standards?
Shelly, the pot smoker
written by A Brazilian, January 20, 2008
Aren't you the one that likes to smoke pot?
On language
written by Shellly, January 20, 2008
http://anthro.palomar.edu/language/language_1.htm

"There are no "primitive" languages. All languages have a system of sounds, words, and sentences that can adequately communicate the content of culture. The languages of the so-called "primitive" peoples are often very complex in their grammatical structures. There seems to be no correlation between a language's grammatical complexity and the technological level of a society or other aspects of culture. However, cultures that have more complex, diverse economies and advanced technologies have larger vocabularies. For instance, English has roughly 615,000 non-technical words. If slang and specialized technical words are added, English has more than 2,000,000 words and is growing at a rate of hundreds to thousands every year. By comparison, German has about 185,000 non-technical words, French may have less than 100,000, and Spanish even fewer. The major reason that English has so many more non-technical words is the fact that as it evolved from its Germanic roots, it acquired words from more than 240 other languages. However, it is unlikely that any one individual knows the meaning of all English words. Most Americans only use 800-1,000 words in everyday conversation. A typical American college student knows 20,000-30,000 words by the time he or she graduates. While this is 20-37 times more than the average person who has not gone to college, it is still less than 2% of all English words. Every language can create new words to describe new situations and objects. Therefore, it is not surprising that all languages change through time. None is static. However, they change at different rates at different times in response to new social, cultural, and environmental situations. Some nations strongly resist the acquisition of new words from other languages. This has been the case with the French government's response to the relentless invasion of English words in recent decades, especially in pop culture and technology. However, young people in most developed nations eagerly embrace new words regardless of attempts by their governments to retain "language purity." "
Shelly, on language
written by A Brazilian, January 20, 2008
So, what do you want to say? The text posted doesn't contribute to Gringo's point or any other's.

And, by the way, more people speak Portuguese as their native language than German or French and many other lesser known (European) languages (like Finnish or Danish). We are almost half of South America, Gringo. If you want to do business here you will inevitably need it.

The more you try "to win the argument" the more you look childish and ignorant.
A Brazilian
written by Shellly, January 20, 2008
Aren't you the one that likes to smoke pot?


Ohhhh, such a grown-up moment!
A Brazilian
written by Shellly, January 20, 2008
The average person can speak about 800-1000 word, A Brazilian has managed to break the Guinness Book of Record = 9!!! Way to go!!! smilies/wink.gif smilies/tongue.gif smilies/tongue.gif smilies/tongue.gif
A Brazilian
written by Shellly, January 21, 2008
Do you have reading comprehension problem? The text has EVERYTHING to do with what everyone here said. And it contributes 100%.

aes: The English language is capable of parcing a thought to the nano particle.
English has infinitely more words than Portuguese


Gringonglish
has, documented (not counting the rap you brought up) well over 500,000 words, next in line is Germany with about 200,000 and the French who it is believed only have about 100,000.


e harmony American English does have a huge amount of words.


Now, moron, go and read the article again.
English
written by Shellly, January 21, 2008
Whether you like it or not A Brazilian
English has more than 2,000,000 words and is growing at a rate of hundreds to thousands every year.


Portuguese is not growing at the same pace, if you go to the website, you will see the reasons. But that will take a little bit of brain work, can you deal with it?
A Brazilian
written by Shellly, January 21, 2008
And, by the way, more people speak Portuguese as their native language than German or French and many other lesser known (European) languages (like Finnish or Danish). We are almost half of South America, Gringo. If you want to do business here you will inevitably need it.


The most logical comment from you in years. However, I lived in Rio with my honey and he hardly used Portuguese. Our friends were bilingual and they actually wanted to learn English. I think that was his setback in learning Portuguese.

"The meaning associated with a word can vary from language to language and culture to culture. The images that a word conveys, even though the word may be the same, are highly influenced by the culture of the speaker. Thus, one cannot separate a language from the culture in which it is used. The two are interconnected. "
http://www.helium.com/tm/629100/meaning-associated-language-language
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written by bo, January 21, 2008
I feel deeply sorry for you as a person, BO. I hope you daughter doesn't learn to be dishonest thru what you do for a living which is selling overprice houses to Brazilians and gringos that dont know any better in Brazil.



Listen bubblehead, you're getting way in over your head. The houses we sell, are sold for market prices, Aracaju prices, and it doesn't matter what country you're from, the price is the price is the price. Stop making assumptions in which you know nothing about...it even makes you appear stupider than you possible may be.
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written by Ana P., January 21, 2008
Shelly, most of the parents in the US have no idea what is going on their children's lives. How do I know: I have teenagers around my neighboorhood come and talk to me about their problems and what someone to listen. How can you not know your child have a gun? Because they were never there... Some parents don't even see their kids at all, I know many like that and it is pretty much the norm here. I am not a strip club slave because I make my own hours, go to work when I want to, if I wake up one day and say I am going to take a 3 day trip to Disney with my son, I can do that... I can proudly say what I do too, I am not a drug dealer not doing anything illegal so I can say what I do. I pay taxes and I declared that my profession is adult entertainer/model just like a actress that do nude scenes I make a living off my body. When asked what I do, I answer. My son's school never did ask, they don't get much into the parents personal lives around here...
BO your houses are overpriced, especially in the part of the country houses are much cheaper than down in Rio and Sao Paulo. You can find many cheaper properties even chacaras/sitios priced in reais not in dollars. Your business is aimed at americans and europeans that are very naive about prices and don't speak portuguese to be able to find a honest Brazilian realtor. You can keep lying to yourself if that helps you sleep better at night.
Gringolândia Friends
written by ..., January 21, 2008
Shelly – The Nojenta

Since Ana Pxxx did not reply, are you willing to do the rump dance on my lap, huh gostosona?


Bobão – The Babaca

Who stirred the s.h.i.t. in your local cesspool to wake you up?


Grin-GO (norrhea) – The Prick

Act Your Age, Not Your Dick Size!

All my LUVVVVVVVVV

Costinha
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written by Ana P., January 21, 2008
sorry costinha. No rump dance here. I do clean dances.
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written by e harmony, January 21, 2008
written by bo, 2008-01-19 21:56:25

What do I claim to be Ana? LOL!! Ana, I'm a millionaire, so f**king what. There are only around 30 million or more millionaires in the U.S. It's not a big f**king deal.


Yeah, and there are millionaires running around all over West Virginia are there? I would think there are more people running around in need of a good dental plan in that hill-billy place. But then... I think it all becomes evident why you keep harping on the "moral" issue of Ana P. stripping past (or present if that is the case). Given your West Virginia mores certainly you wouldn't have much to say if she was f*cking her first cousin, or brother, or running moonshine for a living. Still drinking out of jars and sliding bottled piss under the bed, Bo? Millionaire or not old hillbilly habits are hard to die. smilies/smiley.gif
e harmony
written by ....., January 21, 2008
Don’t mind Bobâo, he is what it is referred to as a “dirty old man.” I bet he wears a hair piece, drives a sport car and flashes his wealth. In short, Bobâo has a harmless limp penis.

A better definition for Bobâo is “NON WORTHY PRICK.”

Costinha
Tracy Reichdan-Brazil? Oh my! How Do I Miss You!
written by João da Silva, January 21, 2008
Tracy, I don't think that even you expected so many comments on your article. You must be pleased and my congrats. smilies/grin.gif

But one question: Don't you think that the title should have been "Oh my! How MUCH do I miss you" or "How I miss you" or "Why should I miss you"?

BTW, if you miss Salvador so much, all you have to do is to get on a plane with your husband and children and come back to your second home. I am sure that, being married to a Brazilian, gives you the all the rights to get in or out of Brazil any time you want.
Ana
written by Shellly, January 21, 2008
Don't pay attention to c**ksuckerstinha, we have to allow him to rant or he may harm himself.

I am not a strip club slave because I make my own hours, go to work when I want to, if I wake up one day and say I am going to take a 3 day trip to Disney with my son, I can do that


Sure, but if you want money you have to go back, right? Therefore, we are all slaves of the system. Some more than others. I would be careful in giving those kids any advice, you may get yourself in trouble, Americans will sue for anything they can. I know it is a good intention, but as an adult you are responsible for the kids life if they say they are in a situation that could cause harm to them. Have worked in the school system here, I was always on alert.
anap
written by PA, January 21, 2008
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"written by Ana P., 2008-01-20 19:34:30
Shelly, most of the parents in the US have no idea what is going on their children's lives. How do I know: I have teenagers around my neighboorhood come and talk to me about their problems and what someone to listen. How can you not know your child have a gun? Because they were never there... Some parents don't even see their kids at all, I know many like that and it is pretty much the norm here. I am not a strip club slave because I make my own hours, go to work when I want to, if I wake up one day and say I am going to take a 3 day trip to Disney with my son, I can do that... I can proudly say what I do too, I am not a drug dealer not doing anything illegal so I can say what I do. I pay taxes and I declared that my profession is adult entertainer/model just like a actress that do nude scenes I make a living off my body. When asked what I do, I answer. My son's school never did ask, they don't get much into the parents personal lives around here"...

-Ana P how dare you say that american parents are not involve in their kids lives; so let me ask you, How do you explainthe crime, thiefery, murders that go on in brazil, not all that commit those crimes live onthe street or favela's either, they have mom's at home, since most don't work, don't their mom's know wht their kids or doing or saying & or who they hang out with".
At least inthis country we don't turn a blind eye to our kids mistakes or doings unlike your country where turning a blind eye & denying seems to be a daily habit".-
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written by Ana P., January 21, 2008
I have a good explanation: Poverty, lack of opportunity and education.
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written by bo, January 21, 2008
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written by e harmony, 2008-01-20 19:53:04

Yeah, and there are millionaires running around all over West Virginia are there?



Actually, in Morgantown WV there are. Goes to show, once again, how much a "know-it-all" about brazil who has never stepped foot in the country, pedophile, knows. In the early 1970's Morgantown WV was in the top ten in the United States for number of millionaires per capita "little boy-girl" lover. Ever heard of a thing called coal? How about Mylan Pharmaceuticals? How about 54 Lumber and a family named "Hardy"? Those companies mentioned, as well as the coal industry, made thousands of people in a small town of 60,000 back in the 70's and early 80's millionaires and muti-millionaires. And talk about stereotyping? LOL! Go to Morgantown WV, and see what it's like. A university with more than 30,000 students and ranked in the top 20 places to live in the United States for quality of life.


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written by Ana P., 2008-01-20 19:34:30
Shelly, most of the parents in the US have no idea what is going on their children's lives. How do I know: I have teenagers around my neighboorhood come and talk to me about their problems and what someone to listen.


LMAO!!! Advice from stripper!!! Are they "wannabe" strippers that want to know how not to get cum on them when they dry-hump a customer during a private dance? smilies/grin.gif

BO your houses are overpriced, especially in the part of the country houses are much cheaper than down in Rio and Sao Paulo.


Goes to show how much you know about the Brazilian, and more appropriately, Aracaju real estate market. A development 3 kilometers from ours is halfway constructed, it has 57 homes. The units they are building are nearly identical to ours, same build size, lot size (actually we have some lots larger than theirs) materials used, AND prices (350K reais to 450K reais). They're sales began in November of 2006, by February of 2007 they had sold 54 units of the 57, and listen to this.....ALL BUT 3 TO BRAZILIANS!!! Don't believe me? Do some searches for "Portal dos Coqueiros" in Aracaju, Sergipe by construtora Habitacional!!

Once again bubblehead, you make wild assumptions that aren't anywhere near reality. Stick to giving advice to wannabe strippers in America like how to get the most rotations out of a good pole spin! smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/grin.gif
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written by bo, January 21, 2008
Ever heard of a thing called coal? How about Mylan Pharmaceuticals? How about 54 Lumber and a family named "Hardy"?


That's 84 Lumber, and when you go to google them make sure you put in the name "Maggie Hardy", she used to date my roomate at WVU, she took us to her fathers house in their helicopter at Nemacolin Woodlands, today Maggie is worth 3 Billion, that's with a "B". And when you google Mylan Pharm be sure to put in "Mike Puskar" or "Milan Puskar". He's worth a Billion, that's also with a "B". My old man knew him when he was going around selling shares of stock out of his 5 year old used car. Mylan pharm. (Myl on Nasdaq) made THOUSANDS very rich in our town, and Mike donated $50,000 to the American Heart Assoc. when my old man died in his name. WVU's football stadium (they just won the Fiesta Bowl) is named after him, "The Milan Puskar Stadium".

Once again, shows how much a sexually frustrated pedophile knows. Still hitting on underage adolescents are we E?? Did you get that esponged from your record yet? Bet not. Do they alert your neighbors when you move into the neighborhood? That must be embarassing. smilies/grin.gif
Shelly – The Nojenta
written by ..., January 21, 2008
Quit playing hard to get… You're Cute. What Can I Get For A Twenty?

Your Costa
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written by A Brazilian, January 21, 2008
The text has EVERYTHING to do with what everyone here said. And it contributes 100%.


Shelly, little moron, Gringo said that the quanitity of "words" were somehow indicative of the how "efficient" the language is. How did exactly your text contribute to that? And, yes, Brazil gets lots of new words all the time from those who lack education, the difference is that such words don't end in the dictionary.

Considering that most words in English are of Germanic origin, some others are Latin or Greek, it's rather intriguing what kind of magic this people seem to believe in that makes it somehow create new words out of thin air.
anap
written by CT, January 21, 2008
"written by Ana P., 2008-01-21 00:12:48
I have a good explanation: Poverty, lack of opportunity and education".


-Ana your funny, now you're making ecuses for your countries people behavior but not ours, because we are the exception & npt the rule as it is in your country.
there ar alot of countries inthis world that have poverty, uneducated people & lack of opportunity & you don't see them going around shooting their own, innocent people, police.
AT the end of the day we re responsible for ourselves & behaviors.
So being poor in brazil excuse dit all as you are saying. Sad to say, but that seems to be the problem in brazil where people hve an excuse for everything. that's very sad, sad indeed".
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written by Gringo, January 21, 2008
Shelly, little moron, Gringo said that the quanitity of "words" were somehow indicative of the how "efficient" the language is.


f**k you are dumb, where did I say that? Here’s more proof to your comprehension problems you dumb primate.
Gringo, the troglodite
written by A Brazilian, January 21, 2008
**k you are dumb, where did I say that?


Here:

But the English language is more efficient, and it is this efficiency that has it being used internationally in business.
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written by Gringo, January 21, 2008
But the English language is more efficient, and it is this efficiency that has it being used internationally in business.


Where in this line does it say anything about the number of words?

You are confusing two distinct thoughts, as per usual, Dumbass. smilies/grin.gif

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written by Ana P., January 21, 2008
I know very well the real estate situation in Brazil in general. Dishonest people building homes are overpricing in hopes of getting suckers gringos to buy or a rich Brazilian while most of Brazilians even middle class will never be able to own their homes in a safe neighboorhood. Funny, because you criticize Brazil's state of chaos and you are one "sangue-suga" contributing for the situation of this people. You probably hire cheap labor(knowing the Northeast labor laws or lack there of).
How can the homes be priced as same as in the US? When people don't make even close to the minimum wage there. One explanation: Most of the real estate are controlled by the countries elite that want to profit and become richier, they overprice their property, hire cheap labor and the cycle never ends. Elites have no interest on having poor Brazilians owning their own homes, they want to keep them poor and hungry so they can exploit them more.


Troglogringo
written by A Brazilian, January 22, 2008
Where in this line does it say anything about the number of words?


The message you replied to from e-harmony said it, and you credited it to "technological advancements" and said it was "more efficient". Probably because you are 12 and your experience in the world comprises that which you see through your bedroom's window or in the way to school.

There's also the possibility that you are a grown up. But then it would mean that you are a retard.
Ape, you’re too stupid to even lie convincingly
written by Gringo, January 22, 2008
You lying sack of horse dung, there’s nothing on this page (so easily verifiable to all, except out resident knuckle draggers and cachaça receptacles) that has me saying or even implying what you wrote which is:

Gringo said that the quanitity of "words" were somehow indicative of the how "efficient" the language is.


Find, post it and prove it, or shut the f**k up, you dumbass ape! smilies/grin.gif

There's also the possibility that you are a grown up. But then it would mean that you are a retard.


Given the fact that I have academically and intelligently beaten your ass on three boards over 2 days doesn’t say much for you then, now does it? Dumbass! smilies/cool.gif
Grin-GO(norrhea)
written by ..., January 22, 2008
Go play Join-The-Dots and after you master 3 dots, I will listen to your stupid rant, fair enough? But don't try so hard, I couldn't like you any less.

Costinha
Troglogringo
written by A Brazilian, January 22, 2008
Given the fact that I have academically and intelligently beaten your ass


Haha. Yes, I was amazed by your intellectual power in words like "Duh" and your argument against education for all children. Apparently for you Indian children aren't children like others, you probably think that they are not human enough to deserve education. I disagree, but you are certainly free to be a racist Anglo-saxon.
Gringotard
written by A Brazilian, January 22, 2008
Find, post it and prove it


You have reading problems. E-harmony said that English had more words, but this was because of slang. You posted later saying that "No! This is becuase of the techonological advancements..." and later in the same reply you said it was more "efficient". Perhaps if you didn't mutilate the text you would understand it.
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written by Gringo, January 22, 2008
Find it, post it prove it, or shut the f**k up, dumbass.
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written by Gringo, January 22, 2008
Prove all those accusations, you lying f**ktard. You can’t because they don’t exist. This country is in a sorry state, because it is filled with primitive "ignorants" (if I can borrow a word from your arsenal) that toil the streets such as yourself. Oh, I did use "Duh", but I thought it quite apropos, especially next to Ape´s

hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha


God help Brazil.
Grin-GO(norrhea)
written by ..., January 22, 2008
He likes to pass as an intellectual by using big words that he has no concept about. Do you know how he does that?

He is using Microsoft Word’s dictionary to find unusual words… What a syphilitic swamp hog!

Gringão Puto… You lack even the dim flicker of sentence needed to qualify as a f.u.c.k.head.

Costinha

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written by Gringo, January 22, 2008
He likes to pass as an intellectual by using big words that he has no concept about. Do you know how he does that?


I´m growing on you, eh favela fred?

Now shut up and keep my car safe. I gave you a fiver to watch it, not talk to me. If big words offend you, no worries, I’ll leave a description of what I need done, written in crayon with single syllables with drawings for when you come to mow the lawn.
Is this what Canada has to offer? I feel sorry for you Canada.
written by A Brazilian, January 22, 2008
Prove all those accusations, you lying f**ktard. You can’t because they don’t exist. This country is in a sorry state, because it is filled with primitive "ignorants" (if I can borrow a word from your arsenal) that toil the streets such as yourself. Oh, I did use "Duh", but I thought it quite apropos, especially next to Ape´s


Funny. The guy that accuses me of being a bigot for defending education for Indians call me "Ape", because I don't fit in the Anglo-saxon ideals of racial purity, and now he is calling Brazilians "primitive". Hahahaha.

You are a joke. Judging by your incoherence and reading problems we are all surprised that you were even capable of learning how to type. That's quite a feat for someone "special" like you.
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written by Gringo, January 22, 2008
Funny. The guy that accuses me of being a bigot for defending education for Indians call me "Ape", because I don't fit in the Anglo-saxon ideals of racial purity, and now he is calling Brazilians "primitive". Hahahaha.


Ah, it was inevitable, another dodge and weave, I knew it wouldn’t be long before you threw up the race card – the last resort at diverting attention from your stupidity, eh! Well, the man who has called others the “N word”, the one who calls natives “ignorants” and claims they have a “dead Culture”, the one that says that “white Anglo-Saxon cultures” are incapable of social harmony has no moral scaffolding to through up the race card, here. I call you an Ape for the simple reason that you bumble through these forms, with a primitive mentality, leaving nothing but a path of stupidity. I couldn’t care what colour you were stupid knows no racial bounds.

Good grief. So now, let’s try this again. You’ve made some pretty inflammatory accusations, now prove them. The more you diddle, the more foolish you look.

God help Brazil.
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written by Gringo, January 22, 2008
You have reading problems. E-harmony said that English had more words, but this was because of slang. You posted later saying that "No! This is becuase of the techonological advancements..." and later in the same reply you said it was more "efficient". Perhaps if you didn't mutilate the text you would understand it.


You´re still putting two distinctive thoughts together into one idea. Dumbass. If you think not, then cut n past the actual post. You don´t have to look far, just scroll up into that imagination of yours again. smilies/cheesy.gif dumbass
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written by bo, January 22, 2008
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written by Ana P., 2008-01-21 17:13:32
I know very well the real estate situation in Brazil in general. Dishonest people building homes are overpricing in hopes of getting suckers gringos to buy or a rich Brazilian while most of Brazilians even middle class will never be able to own their homes in a safe neighboorhood. Funny, because you criticize Brazil's state of chaos and you are one "sangue-suga" contributing for the situation of this people. You probably hire cheap labor(knowing the Northeast labor laws or lack there of).
How can the homes be priced as same as in the US? When people don't make even close to the minimum wage there. One explanation: Most of the real estate are controlled by the countries elite that want to profit and become richier, they overprice their property, hire cheap labor and the cycle never ends. Elites have no interest on having poor Brazilians owning their own homes, they want to keep them poor and hungry so they can exploit them more.



Hey Ho, it's the rules here in Brazil. You wanna complain? You're a brasileira, get Lula on the horn!! Ohh, almost forgot, you locked onto the first gringo you met to get out of this bagunça!
Hey Bobão… If You Let Me Probe Here
written by ..., January 22, 2008
I believe the only things around here locked onto to any gringo are your crabs.

Is not your fragrance of choice is "Eau De Skunk?"

Costinha
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written by xuxinha, January 23, 2008
Sadly, Bo... I think you missed the point of the article. Maybe you need to reread the orginal article and see if you might be able to apply something...
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written by bo, January 23, 2008
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written by xuxinha, 2008-01-23 03:11:22
Sadly, Bo... I think you missed the point of the article. Maybe you need to reread the orginal article and see if you might be able to apply something...


xixinha;

Do you know what I'm going to miss when I leave Brazil? First and foremost, my daughter. Other than that, it's really all trivial.

I'll miss not being able to drive down the road 100mph with a can of beer in my hand after I've already drank numerous and get pulled over by the police at a roadblock and have a conversation with him with the beer still in my hand.smilies/cheesy.gif

I'll miss people banging into me while in the mall and/or opening their car doors and banging them into mine without a look, without a realization that anything even happened, with an "excuse me", "sorry", or "go f**k yourself". smilies/grin.gif

I'll miss phone calls from the police and good friends saying, "Your friend has just been shot", or in one case, "Your friend was just robbed and murdered in his home." smilies/sad.gif

I'll miss hitting potholes at night the size of a crater and having to spend thousands of reais afterwards to fix the damage. smilies/shocked.gif

I'll miss the complete and utter lack of security and appropriate feeling that I'm living in the Wild West where the "fastest gun wins!" smilies/wink.gif

I'll miss the lines at the bank waiting hours, and having to show up at a doctors office at 6:45 am and wait in his waiting room until afternoon for a 15 minute check-up.

And I'll certainly miss the monthly fights with the telecommunications companies, the energy company, the water company, and their quick and thoughtful way of resolving your problems in a 3-6 month time period after you've spent about a solid 168 hours over that time period trying to resolve them. smilies/grin.gif
almost forgot!!
written by bo, January 23, 2008
And I'm certainly going to miss those helpful guys that "help" you park your car!!! Thank god for them as if they didn't exist I would never figure it out on my own!! smilies/grin.gif
Bo
written by ..., January 23, 2008
What a turd-tossing tard!

Costa
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written by ...., January 24, 2008
Too bad you can't enjoy life, Bo. Grow up! Quit wasting your time adding tons of stupid comments. Get a life. Be productive.
Too bad...
written by bo, January 27, 2008
anonymous, you must be just another that can't stand to hear reality in Brazil. Let me continue with the list.... smilies/wink.gif


I'm going to miss Saturday's or Sunday's when my neighbor invites his buddy over and he arrives in a pickup truck with a speaker in the bed that is bigger than the truck and begins to play music so loud that it is completely distorted and vibrates every window and door in my house to the point where we can't even hear the tv while sitting 2 feet in front of it! smilies/cheesy.gif

I'm going to miss my "check especial" with it's 15% monthly interest rate!! smilies/shocked.gif

I'm going to miss travelling on the roads and when approaching a knoll and seeing on the other side an 18 wheeler coming right at me in my land and completely forcing us off the road! smilies/cheesy.gif

I'm going to miss my power going out at least once a week, and sometimes every other day, although there isn't a storm in sight, only blue, sunny skies.

I'm going to miss talking to a customer service rep. on the phone and after telling her 10 times that, "I'm sorry, but I can't hear you. " Then miraculously I can hear her completely clear as she obviously decided to put the microphone in front of her mouth instead of the previous positon which was above her head!! smilies/grin.gif

I'm going to miss having to explain to foreign investors that we're well aware that they're sending 400,000 reais to brazil to buy their brazilian property yet they're only going to receive a deed or title that will state the transaction occurred for only 100,000 reais....effectively making their "clean" money they sent to Brazil "dirty"! People usually do the opposite, don't they? smilies/wink.gif

And last but not least on the "What I'm going to miss in Brazil" top 25 list is being in a country where being one of it's citizens means NEVER HAVING TO SAY I'M SORRY!!! smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/cheesy.gif



And if you guys want to get a really good laugh, while writing this response I was just ready to click "add comment" and guess what???

THE POWER WENT OUT! smilies/cheesy.gif

and then guess what?

I called to make the power company aware and when nearly finished "abrindo meu reclamação" we got disconnected!!! A ligacão caiu!!!! smilies/grin.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/cheesy.gif

Now it's to the point where we just sit and laugh!
Bo
written by wazza, January 27, 2008
Bwahhhhhhh!!!!!

Your way too much. Everything you said is true and then some.

Wazza...
written by bo, January 27, 2008
I know that you can relate. Anyone with half a wit and have spent more than a couple 24 hours in Brazil can relate!!! I could go on and on with the list, but most should get the picture! smilies/grin.gif
Bo...
written by ..., January 28, 2008
Enema?

Costa
Speaking of enemas....
written by bo, January 28, 2008
c**kstinha, The "What I'm going to miss in Brazil" list continues..... smilies/wink.gif



I'm going to miss having diarrhoea during 33% of my life!! smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif

I'm going to miss the doctor's accurate diagnosis' in telling my friends and family to "just go home...you're ok", and then hours later they have a stroke or in my daughters case have to be rushed to Sao Paulo (like it's across the street) or she would've died. smilies/angry.gif Ever hear about the 3 best hospitals in the northeast of Brazil? Vasp, Varig, and Tam!!! And now Vasp and Varig have gone kaput!!! smilies/grin.gif

I'm going to miss the "on time", no delay flights at the airports. As well as watching dignified, "educated", brazilian couples completely "lose it" at a Tam ticket counter!!! smilies/cheesy.gif

I'm going to miss the thoughtful way Brazilians dispose of garbage they accrue while in their car by simply tossing it out the window at 80 KPH!! smilies/grin.gif

I'm going to miss living in a country that has more of it's citizens/residents die from violent death every year than citizens from countries that are at war! smilies/shocked.gif

I'm going to miss paying 36,000 dollar for a Nissan Sentra!! smilies/wink.gif

I'm going to miss dodging the horses on the street. smilies/grin.gif

I'm going to miss having to pay for apartments, land, or houses, things that cost 20,000 reais and up, "a vista", in cash, but being able to di-vi-di smilies/grin.gif, finance, a 20 dollar rug over the course of a year!! smilies/cheesy.gif

I'm going to miss the efficiency of the brazilian court system. At times it can take 10 years or more to settle a simple matter. smilies/sad.gif

I'm going to miss people looking at me and my friend like we're from Mars when we speak to one another in english! smilies/cheesy.gif

At just for you c**kstinha (drumroll).......What I'm going to miss a LOT about Brazil when I finally leave.....are knuckledragging idiots that yell in their broken portuguese through their "summer teeth" (sum 'er here and sum 'er there) "Eu sou Brasileiro" (I am brazilian....e com orgulho), "voltar para seu pais Americano!!" (go back to your country american) smilies/grin.gif smilies/wink.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/cheesy.gif
Bobão…
written by ..., January 29, 2008
Don’t let the door hit you where the good Lord split you!

Costinha
Bobão…
written by ..., January 29, 2008
It seems like you are going to miss a lot! Conversely, you won't be missed at all, even by your daughter.

Go chew on that... sexually deprived pervert.

Yours truly,

Costinha
sexually deprived??
written by bo, January 29, 2008
Who here is the one always talking about asses, tits, f**king, sucking, etc????



Seems to be like they are the one with sexual frustrations.....don't ya think c**kerstinha?
READ
written by Brasil, February 01, 2008
You guys are gay...
obviously you guys spend way too much time arguing about stupid s**t. Shut the f up, do whatever you have to until your daughter is 18, go back to the US and live your happily ever after. Otherwise, stop complaining and just go home now. If you still call it home.
caralho!
written by sapo cururu na beira do rio, February 04, 2008
miss = sentir falta and thats not saudade!
when you perceive the difference between it, then you will be able to translate SAUDADE
but for now this homework #1
try translate this one: vai pra p**a que te pariu!
or: vai tomar no seu cú mauricinho de meia tijela

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written by A., February 20, 2008
What an ass this Bo! Shut-up!
"morons", why are you so bitter? So aggressively way that you referred to Brazilians..why?
I have was married to such an American piece of s**t, a f**king thief, simply a bad person.
And I am not calling all the American as white trash, retarded American, fat pigs or so.
So do the Brazilians a favor: go to louse Miami whenever you would like to see morons - that is the Morons Capital.
Do us a favor: do not leave US - stay local. You are not welcome here.

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