Brazzil

My son married a lovely Brazilian woman. Their friendship, romance and eventual nuptials extol the benefits of a highly integrated world economic community. They met while employed by a multinational computer firm. The melding of their two cultures is a testament to the vitality and diversity created by international cooperation.

They planned two wedding ceremonies. The first was in March of 2006 - a brief civil ceremony held in their hometown of Seattle , Washington. The purpose of this proceeding was to allow my daughter-in-law to obtain a spousal visa.

The formal wedding was held in June 2006 in the Brazilian city of São Paulo. This affair was attended by over 200 friends and relatives. As I thought about this party, I began to grow tense and worried.

I do not support the current administration's conduct of foreign affairs. My current events awareness set me up for a major dose of anticipatory anxiety. I assumed that my role in São Paulo would be somewhere between either defending the history of the U.S. foreign relations or being an apologist for U.S. policy errors.

Given our history of intervention in Latin American affairs; I knew that Americans would not be too popular. Dollar, diplomacy, Yankee imperialism and our unqualified support for military dictatorships would tarnish my image. Visions of angry confrontations with wedding guests became a source of nightmares.

We arrived in São Paulo one week before the wedding. We had met my son's in-laws in Seattle. They were gracious hosts who went far out of their way to make us feel at home. However, I perceived a subliminal pressure to discuss America's role in world politics. Was this pressure coming from my counterpart (my daughter-in-law's father) or was it guilt spewing out of me?

I googled US-Brazil relations when my son got engaged to his Brazilian fiancée. Much to my dismay I found out that the newly elected President of Brazil Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva had expressed admiration for Venezuela's Hugo Chavez and Cuba's Fidel Castro - both anti-American socialist dictators.

Additionally, he had written off President Bush's call for a Free Trade Area of the Americas as an American plot to annex Latin America. If the President of Brazil was so ready to clash with the United States, what would 200 or more friends and family have to say to an American in São Paulo?

The pre-wedding week went by very quickly. Finally the big night arrived. After the ceremony was completed my daughter-in-law's wave of over 200 family and friends began to approach my wife and I. My anxiety level increased and my endocrine system began preparing me for fight or flight. My heart was pumping; However, I was still not sure what I was going to do.

I do not know how these people truly viewed me, but their grace and manners were exceptional. Not one anti-American joke or comment was transmitted by anyone. The common theme was their unrestrained joy that we had traveled such a great distance to attend this wedding.

Their warmth and sincerity began to convince me that this wedding was about my son and his lovely wife and did not deal with the United States versus Brazil. The joining of two families was the focus of these gathering, not geopolitical imperatives.

The containment of communism ran a distant place from this celebration of love that transcended national boundaries. To the 200 guests family was the most important objective of the evening.

Further proof of my admiration for my new Brazilian family and friends was provided by an exchange of emails with my daughter-in-law's father. My wife and I were so overwhelmed by the reception we received that when we returned to the United States, I wrote an email to my son's father-in-law.

I thanked him and told him that his family and friends made us feel just like family. In his response he mentioned that as a rule Brazilians do not like the Americans that they encounter. However, he mentioned that in private conversations with many of the guests that my wife and I were universally showered with praise.

Our new Brazilian family and friends had not allowed politics or prejudice to interfere with the joy of two young people starting their lives together.

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Beautiful
written by John Miller, January 21, 2008

I really enjoy reading these types of articles, stressing the positive.
I am also married to a brasilian, and whilst I am not an american, I am from another english speaking country supporting the war in Iraq. The overwhelming support and hospitality of my Brasilian family has been inspiring and shows what love can overcome.
The more we mix, the better off we are.

Besides many Brazilians have class....
written by Ricardo Amaral, January 21, 2008

I am glad that you had a good time on your stay in Brazil, and the guests at your son’s wedding made you feel at home.

What many Americans don’t understand is that Brazilians actually like most Americans that go to Brazil and the Americans who visit Brazil usually come back with fond memories of that country and they usually want to go back because they did like so much not only what they experienced during brief staying but also how they were treated by the Brazilian people.

Brazilians know how to differentiate and they have a different perception of the average American person and the representatives of the US government. I don’t know anyone who likes the current Bush administration, but that does not mean that they hate the American people.

The Bush/Cheney administration is hated not only in Brazil, but also around the world, but the Brazilian people have admiration for people such as Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, and Al Gore.

Brazilians know how to distinguish between the good guys and the bad guys – in Bush’s case the idiots.

When you hear people say that Brazilians hate Americans - you should not take that comment too seriously.

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written by bo, January 21, 2008

written by Ricardo Amaral, 2008-01-21 04:37:33
I am glad that you had a good time on your stay in Brazil, and the guests at your son’s wedding made you feel at home.

What many Americans don’t understand is that Brazilians actually like most Americans that go to Brazil and the Americans who visit Brazil usually come back with fond memories of that country and they usually want to go back because they did like so much not only what they experienced during brief staying but also how they were treated by the Brazilian people.

Brazilians know how to differentiate and they have a different perception of the average American person and the representatives of the US government. I don’t know anyone who likes the current Bush administration, but that does not mean that they hate the American people.

The Bush/Cheney administration is hated not only in Brazil, but also around the world, but the Brazilian people have admiration for people such as Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, and Al Gore.

Brazilians know how to distinguish between the good guys and the bad guys – in Bush’s case the idiots.

When you hear people say that Brazilians hate Americans - you should not take that comment too seriously.

Richard, I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you about one point. Being an american and living in the northeast of Brazil for a decade now I can tell you that there are large percentages of ignorant Brazilians that reside in the northeast that have no idea how to differentiate between the american gov't. and the american people. Naturally there are large percentages that know how to, but there are also large percentages that simply don't and swallow everything that Globo and BAND throw at them in their rabid anti-USA campaigns. I can give example, after example, after example, of so-called "educated" people that have gone on tilt with me concerning issues with the american gov't. as I have anything to do with that. And what makes matters worse in nearly every single case they have no idea that their very own gov't. does WORSE. But it's par for the course in northeast Brazil. If ignorance were petroleum here in the northeast Brazil would be bigger than OPEC!!

Reply to Bo
written by Ricardo Amaral, January 21, 2008

I am from Sao Paulo, and most of my family and friends live in Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Minas Gerais, and the South portion of Brazil, including Parana and so on...

I can't say that I have lived in the North of Brazil, since I know the north only as a tourist enjoying a nice vacation. The people from the north were usually nice to me when I did travel in that area of the world.

You also have to take in consideration that the people from the South of Brazil are usually much better educated and have a different perception of the rest of the world including the United States.

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I hope it works both ways
written by Mario Silvio, January 21, 2008

"Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva had expressed admiration for Venezuela's Hugo Chavez and Cuba's Fidel Castro - both anti-American socialist dictators."

Of course II know to differentiate between the american gov't. and the american people and I hope americans can do the same about the moronic decisions our stupid president takes

"If ignorance were petroleum here in the northeast Brazil would be bigger than OPEC!!"
e.g. the character above mentioned.

FIGHT or FLIGHT
written by ..., January 21, 2008

If that was Bobão, he’d taken Flight…

Costinha

Bo
written by A Brazilian, January 21, 2008

Bo, you are full of hate. I can only imagine how you criticized Brazil in order to make someone offend you. Definitely that's not the normal behavior. If you talk to people there using the same kind of language you use here and this self-righteous tone, as if you could teach others the "right way", chances are that you deserved whatever offenses came your way.

paradox
written by eagle, January 21, 2008

simply put,,,,the much coveted "green card" for anti-american brazilians is so desired.......

ricardo amaral
written by CT, January 21, 2008

For an educated man as you are or seem to be among others on this forum, i find it funny that you Claim that brazilians have class & that most know ho to distinguish between the americans & their govt.
i have to agree w/ Bo somehat as to the ignorance of brazilians in general whether from the northeast or metro areas as you. BRazilians are just plain rude ina ction, not so much in words.
I have been there & lived ther for a # of months & left on my own accord because i couldn't fathem the small mentality that brazilians have as a whole educated & non.
As i know & you should know brazilians are front men/woman, they put up facades, they smile in your face but behind your back they laugh, etc. As if there ios nothing to laugh at brazilians.
If your claims are accurate, then explain why brazilians after over 185 still resent/hate the Portuguese to no end, the educated people like you should understnd/distinguish things better than the ignorant, but it seem to me and many othes that i know of that, that's not the case.
Of course at the end of the day, the Portuguese really don't give a hoot about what they are thought of, & they should not, because when you're on the top why would you care as most brazilians do. They carry themselves in an examplatory manner, but of course they can't be given credit for that, only brazilians take credit for the good, the bad is always someone's fault.

BEWARE
written by ..., January 21, 2008

That “Eagle” really is a “Vulture” in disguise!

Better yet, I don't consider you a vulture… I consider you something vultures would eat.

Costinha

PS: Hehehehe

CT - Cocô Total
written by ..., January 21, 2008

Genius does what it must, talent does what it can, and you had best do what you're told.


Costinha

PS: Hehehehe

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written by Gringo, January 21, 2008

If you talk to people there using the same kind of language you use here and this self-righteous tone, as if you could teach others the "right way", chances are that you deserved whatever offenses came your way.

Ah, you hypocritical sanctimonious ape, you just spent two days dedicated to defending societal engineering, kidnapping indigenous children and indoctrinating them, or in your exact word “teaching the ignorants” the “right way” and the “ugly truth”, and now you come here give Bo a sermon o being self righteous?

CLASSIC!

barking little insignificants
written by eagle, January 21, 2008

yes its true,,,that south american leftists,communists,criminals,guevarraistas,traffickers ,fidelistas,chavezistas, and other impotent tin pot bluffing blowhards,,,do not like the u.s.a.,,, and most americans find these little idiotas "insignificant oddities.....

Reply to CT
written by Ricardo Amaral, January 21, 2008

CT said: "For an educated man as you are or seem to be among others on this forum, i find it funny that you Claim that brazilians have class & that most know ho to distinguish between the americans & their govt."

I am talking about my family and friends in general, and also a large part the people who I socialize with in Brazil.

The democratic system in Brazil brought a lot of people from the lower classes to the top, but this has happened only in the last 30 years.

Even then anyone who belongs to the old elite can spot the nouveau riche a mile away just by the way they act and the things that they talk about.

But as a general rule the people who belong to the old elite had class, but you always have the exceptions to the rule.

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Reply to CT
written by Ricardo Amaral, January 21, 2008

I assume by the tone of your posting that you are Portuguese from Portugal, and you must be insulted because Brazilians tell jokes about the Portuguese.

Sorry, but I can't help you on that one.


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Marrying Up
written by Bola Preta, January 21, 2008

Quite a few Brazilian women think that marrying white American males is "marrying up." This is documented in sociological studies of immigrant Brazilian women in the United States and it is also true for women in Brazil. No one would say abything bad to the family of a trophy husband, not for a while at least.

"brazilians take credit for the good, the bad is always someone's fault. "
written by ch.c., January 21, 2008

So right.
- Brazilians harshly criticize America, but guess where most Brazilians go A) on vacation B) enter illegally C) ready to pay around US$ 10'000 to be smuggled to......HELL....apparently ! Where is the Brazilian common sense ? Do they have any, even basic ?

- Brazilians criticze America to produce ethanol from corn, but Brazil is going to produce ethanol from corn AND biodiesel from soyabeans. To the tune of 15 % of the annual production....by 2010 ! Where is the logic in the critics ? Hmmmmmm.

- Brazilians find quite normal to charge heavy import taxes on goods, but not so when others do the same. Where is the Brazilian
common sense ? Do they have any ?

- Brazilians criticize both EU and America at the WTO, but they talk only about agriculture, never about industrial goods or financial services. Guess why.......knowing the Brazilian common sense...or lack of it !

- EU and America are by far the biggest Brazilians trade partners, with whom they have a huge trade surplus....but that is NOT enough ! Brazilian common sense....or lack of it....once more ?

-The same could be said for China and their textiles. Brazil imports 1 % (YESS ONE PERCENT) of the Brazilian textile industry....but that is too much already and you have put some imports restrictions !!!!! Brazilian logic....again ?

- Brazil critizes the weakness of the US$ but guess what they bought on a daily basis for over 60 % of their foreign currencies reserves ! The US$.....of course ! Smile ! Brazilians have great....long term visions....with their common sense !

- Brazilians are proud to have cut their SELIC rate 17 or 18 times. Rates are apparently at a record low......but still by far the WORLD
HIGHEST.....after inflation. Nothing to be so proud....in my view. Laugh....laugh !

Ohhhhhhh....despite the apparent recent strength of the Brazilian currency, it is still 40 % LOWER than a decade ago....against the weak US$, because against the EURO currencies it is still 70 % lower than a decade ago. Where is the strength.....outside opf the short term.
Did you forgot that you cut 12 ZEROES (YESSSSSS TWELVE ZEROES) to your currency during the last 70 years or so ??????

Lets face it, long term your currency was/is not any better than the currency of your cousin (shortly brother) the clown Chavez !!!!!

Do the maths....if you can !

"Quite a few Brazilian women think that marrying white American males is "marrying up."
written by ch.c., January 21, 2008

Do you really believe it is any different......for brazilians males ??????

It is certainly a way to get a legal working and residence permit...either in the USA, EU or Japan.
Guess why Brazilians dont marry Chineses, Indians, Pakistanese, Indonesians or Africans.....just to name a few !

Watch Out….
written by ..., January 21, 2008

The ugly americans are coming out of the woodwork…

I am yet to meet one singular woman interested in americans typically known as obnoxious, loud, arrogant, rude, no class and utmost, stupid bastards. Most Brasilian women cherish their initial perception of americans.

To my midget american friends I'd like to run into you again, sometime when I'm driving and you're walking. Yeah… Americans have the popularity of bubonic plague.

Good day,

Costinha

Bola Preta!
written by ..., January 21, 2008

My visualization of you is of an acne-encrusted, balding, 35-stone, 4'7" dwarf in his parent's basement - surrounded by semen-stained socks and old copies of BESTIALITY TODAY. Hehehe!


Good day,

Costinha

The world doesn't hate America...
written by Yowser, January 21, 2008

Great article by a nationally syndicated talk show host, columnist, author, ethicist, and public speaker, Dennis Prager titled: "The World Doesn't Hate America, the Left Does"
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/DennisPrager/2007/11/27/the_world_doesnt_hate_america,_the_left_does

Eagle wannabe Vulture…
written by ..., January 21, 2008

You are a gin-sodden pitiable excuse for anything other than a rancid f**kweasle!

Yours truly,

Costinha

Gringo, the troglodite
written by A Brazilian, January 21, 2008

you just spent two days dedicated to defending societal engineering, kidnapping indigenous children and indoctrinating them, or in your exact word “teaching the ignorants” the “right way” and the “ugly truth”, and now you come here give Bo a sermon o being self righteous?

First, I just asked what is right, that the children go to school. I never said anything about kidnapping. Second, I said they need the knowledge in order to defend themselves and their interests, what is wrong about that?

The problem is that Anglo-saxons can't imagine others as human beings. For you Indians aren't people like you and me, so they need to receive "special treatment" because they "special people". They can't live in a bubble forever. I say empowerment to them through education. You, on the other hand, have a problem with that.

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written by A Brazilian, January 21, 2008

Quite a few Brazilian women think that marrying white American males is "marrying up."

I think it depends on the type of woman, usually those without resources or means try to find a good marriage to "solve" their lives, and usually that means anybody that appears to have plenty of money, not limited to "white American males". That's one of the ways human traffickers manage to fool women into moving to Europe to sexually exploit them later.

ricardo amaral
written by CT, January 21, 2008

"Reply to CT
written by Ricardo Amaral, 2008-01-21 16:24:52
I assume by the tone of your posting that you are Portuguese from Portugal, and you must be insulted because Brazilians tell jokes about the Portuguese.
Sorry, but I can't help you on that one".

-First i am not Portuguese but even if i was i rather be one of them than one of yours, i respect them immensely compared to you & yours. Must i say it again. Although in prior posts ypu have claimed your portuguese roots when it suits you, but now youtalk about my tone, my tone is no different than yours, the problem ricardo is that you are no different than the old/new elite you have just proven that.
You need not say sorry about the jokes brazilians promulgate ont he portuguese i know them to well, as i said i lived there for awhile. but i got news for you if you ahven't beeen to Portugal i suggest you do, they have brzilian jokes too even here in the u.s., but i guess since your such a part of the high class you really don't know what's going on in the lowlands. It truly is a pity that at the end of the day that small minded/low self esteem/confidence still exists in your bloodline.
you are all the same.

p.s. Got news for you tell me wher ein brzil or the u.s. & portugal do you ever see a portuguese person working foror paying rent to a brazilian. That speaks volumes in itself, all that class & at the end of the day they're asking for favors.

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written by Gringo, January 21, 2008

Abe, the Ape whined:

First, I just asked what is right, that the children go to school. I never said anything about kidnapping. Second, I said they need the knowledge in order to defend themselves and their interests, what is wrong about that?

The problem is that Anglo-saxons can't imagine others as human beings. For you Indians aren't people like you and me, so they need to receive "special treatment" because they "special people". They can't live in a bubble forever. I say empowerment to them through education. You, on the other hand, have a problem with that.

No my little dumbass ape, I was actually defending the work of some missionaries related to the original article, when you came crashing in, (knuckles scrapping the floor as usual) saying that there are SOME that wish to keep education from the “ignorants” (your word) to safeguard firstworld lifestyles. I asked you, repeatedly, WHO? and you have slithered and slimed around since.

Then you say indian children should be forced into Brazilian schools. The point was raised that this sort of social engineering has had disastrous results in other nations, and you dismissed those results predictably, because as you said, (and have repeated here) “they are Anglo-Saxon nations” which shows you to be not only pig headed with facts, but a bigot as well. Shelly and I have both honored the position quite effectively that THEY (indigenous groups) should determine their own destiny (self-determination is what most indigenous groups call it) but you seem to think they shouldn’t be given this power because, again, you claim they are “ignorants” and living in a “dead end culture”.

The debate is here folks for all to see… (sorry for the intrusion)
http://www.brazzil.com/content/view/10029/41/#jc_writeComment

Ape will twist and manipulate all the facts (although he mostly uses inuendos) he wishes, but it’s plain to see for most that he´s a raving lunatic, and in good company with the selfprofessed dead dog skull f**ker, Costinha..

CT
written by A Brazilian, January 21, 2008

they have brzilian jokes too even here in the u.s.,

Who cares? Only someone with low self-esteem would be bothered by that. CT, what's your point again?

ricardo amaral
written by CT, January 21, 2008

"Reply to CT
written by Ricardo Amaral, 2008-01-21 16:17:05
CT said: "For an educated man as you are or seem to be among others on this forum, i find it funny that you Claim that brazilians have class & that most know ho to distinguish between the americans & their govt."
I am talking about my family and friends in general, and also a large part the people who I socialize with in Brazil".

-Well you, your family & friends do not represent the whole of brazilfo they?-

"The democratic system in Brazil brought a lot of people from the lower classes to the top, but this has happened only in the last 30 years".

-You sound like you were one of the one's that benefited, hence your illogical comments-.

"Even then anyone who belongs to the old elite can spot the nouveau riche a mile away just by the way they act and the things that they talk about.
But as a general rule the people who belong to the old elite had class, but you always have the exceptions to the rule".

-I'm glad that you can look in the mirror, must i say more.-

Gringotard is afflicted by reading disorder
written by A Brazilian, January 21, 2008

will twist and manipulate all the facts

The facts are all there for anybody to read. My affirmations about keeping them in the ignorance are valid, because it doesn't make any sense unless you have some vested interest in their ignorance. Why keep someone in the stone age? Then I proposed their children got educated, because the adults would be hard to have their habits changed. Why? Because they would be able to participate in the society in an effective manner! They would have access to the knowledge humanity has created and would use it as they see fit! What is wrong with that!?

You want to see facts? I have Indian blood and nothing disastrous happened in my family. It is only disastrous in a racially segregated society, where, in fact, the Indians would be forced to live in a "mental reservation" even when out of the physical reservation.

You are completely ignorant about the history of Brazil and Brazil today.

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written by Gringo, January 21, 2008

No, sadly I am learning far more about the reason why Brazil has such problems, and typically, it is because of people like you.

You seem to think that no one has a right to their own decision, and that what YOU think is best, is what is best. Well, that’s the exact attitude your beloved US is doing in Iraq, spreading democracy to the “ignorants” (using your word again) and I just find it odd that you think this ilk of nation building is repugnant, but feel free to rush into any indigenous village you see fit, not ask them what they want, force their children to schools (Brazilian schools at that – a fate worst that ignorance if you ask me) and that is somehow civilized. Forcing your will, weather well intentioned or not, is not civil.

I said it there and I will repeat it here for the thousandth time (although Senhor Cachaça still wont clue in), if they want it, great they are entitled to everything Brazilians are entitled too (which isn’t much really) but if they don’t want it, you can’t force it on them. That’s the point you always seem to miss. Admit it Ape, you’re a bigot, and a dumb one at that.

God help Brazil.

a brazilian
written by CT, January 21, 2008

"CT
written by A Brazilian, 2008-01-21 19:09:21
they have brazilian jokes too even here in the u.s.,
Who cares? Only someone with low self-esteem would be bothered by that.
CT, what's your point again?

-My point is to ricardo you zrazilian latoeiro, he thinks by reinforcing stereotypes that that has or makes him look classy just like you. If he truily just like you had any class he wouldn't even had said anything.
So my point is jokes or no jokes, at the end of the day $ this is what counts.
And i would hardly say that i suffer from low self esteem, as americans we don't suffer from that, we have no reason to, we make no excuses for everything we say, do. We are proud of who we are regardless, mistakes or no mistakes. Unlike you, you seem to suffer from the same mental disease that afflicts all brazilians, your DNA.
I find it funny that most of you can't stand it when someone stands up or defends the Portuguese, you just have to have the last word, speak over people, etc.
I also find it funny that when brazilians have two cents to rub or a tinb hut they act as if no one else inthe world ever had $ or a roof over their heads.
As classy as ricardo believes he is, i don't understand whey he would be living in the u.s. when he can live right next to the old rich elite & walk around as if he owned the country. I wonder why just like you.

CT, the low self-esteem gringo
written by A Brazilian, January 21, 2008

And i would hardly say that i suffer from low self esteem, as americans we don't suffer from that, we have no reason to, we make no excuses for everything we say, do. We are proud of who we are regardless, mistakes or no mistakes. Unlike you, you seem to suffer from the same mental disease that afflicts all brazilians, your DNA.

If you don't have any self-esteem problem why are you so worried about what we think? And why are you justifying "who you are" with something completely external and out of your control like DNA? It contradicts what you have just written, because you say that you create no excuses and then you create one.

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written by Gringo, January 21, 2008

If you don't have any self-esteem problem why are you so worried about what we think? And why are you justifying "who you are" with something completely external and out of your control like DNA?

Hey dickhead, if you are going to ask questions, first learn to answer them. I´m still waiting for you to respond to who "some" are, and what the "ugly truth" is? Dumbass

Gringo thinks education for Indians is bad
written by A Brazilian, January 21, 2008

You seem to think that no one has a right to their own decision, and that what YOU think is best, is what is best.

So you are saying that school for Indians is bad? This is why Anglo-saxons fail whenever they try to integrate peoples, you just don't get it. You don't see that by treating people differently you will only keep them apart. The only thing that holds the US together, and I believe the same applies for other Anglo-saxon countries, is the economy. For now all those peoples perceive the idea of "staying together" as their best interest. I wonder what would happen if the US passed through some grave crisis. Hahaha.

but if they don’t want it, you can’t force it on them.

We can, because children can't stay of school.

Admit it Ape, you’re a bigot, and a dumb one at that.

You are the one that have been calling me "Ape" ever since I told you I had Indian blood. Who is the bigot? Interesting.

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written by Gringo, January 21, 2008

Now here’s a sentence to be proud of. Ape, take a bow!

My affirmations about keeping them in the ignorance are valid, because it doesn't make any sense unless you have some vested interest in their ignorance.

CLASSIC!

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written by Gringo, January 21, 2008

So you are saying that school for Indians is bad?

Nope.
If they want it they can have it. Is that any clearer for you? Dumbass?

Now you answer ME a question (although you’ve proven over and over again this is not your strong suit). If you contact a group and they don’t want YOUR education, what do you do?

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written by Gringo, January 21, 2008

You are the one that have been calling me "Ape" ever since I told you I had Indian blood. Who is the bigot? Interesting.

Actually, I´ve been calling you Ape for a lot longer than that...

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written by CT, January 21, 2008

"CT, the low self-esteem gringo
written by A Brazilian, 2008-01-21 19:44:39
And i would hardly say that i suffer from low self esteem, as americans we don't suffer from that, we have no reason to, we make no excuses for everything we say, do. We are proud of who we are regardless, mistakes or no mistakes. Unlike you, you seem to suffer from the same mental disease that afflicts all brazilians, your DNA.
If you don't have any self-esteem problem why are you so worried about what we think? And why are you justifying "who you are" with something completely external and out of your control like DNA? It contradicts what you have just written, because you say that you create no excuses and then you create one.

-who said that i was worried about what you think, i was simply answering ricardo, which i felt warranted a resposne. hat has nothing to do about worrying. Your & ricardo problem seesm to be that it's ok for you to say & do &yet unable to accept criticim, bt it's ok for you & him to say whatevr it pleases you guys.
At the end of the day, you guys just can't phstom someone standing up for those that really matter/count or have made contributions to this world regardless whether you like it or not.
What excuses have i c reated, i simply made astatement which is true compare to your & yours. I am by no means justifying who i am or not, i was simply answering ricardao, he made an assumption that wasn't true, because as i said when someone stands up for someone else especially the Portuguese, brazilians like him & you seem to have a problem with that.
As i said b4 if ricardo & you were truly aware of what is said about you Yuca's he woul've never even made tha statement, even though he feels he has class.
i rally think ricardao should change his name so that he can feel better about himself & you to lets say a german/italian name, because after all it's just so great to be part of the most evil people that has walked this earth & the italians, lets see what have they done, can't think of anything right now, so please enilighten me.
You see i know th brazilian nuances all to well, It's like an unwritten code among all when someone speaks highly about themselves or others, bring them down, since they can't compete with them, hence the potshots, Sad, Sad.
so Mr. Yuca, please responde to Gringo, he's waiting fo ryour answer.

p.s. on another note, for someone that seems to be well read, i'm sure at the end of the day, you probably live in a hole in the whole, drives a "lata", eats rice & beans everyday, can't imagine a country that has a large coast they don't even it fish on a daily basis, i wonder why, classy people don't fish, they just eat & complain.

Grin-GO(norrhea)
written by ..., January 21, 2008

Looks like the Gringo once again lost another argument, and his ego is hurt… BUAA…. BUAA…. BUAA….hehehehe!

Gringão, the only thing you have is a big ego. Go discover the center of the universe, I know you will be disappointed to discover you are not it, dickhead.

What we need here is a plumber, so the next time Gringo is flushed he won’t float back into the latrine!

I love you man,

Costinha

CT
written by A Brazilian, January 21, 2008

I hope your DNA isn't responsible for your spelling, because that would be pretty much messed up.

so great to be part of the most evil people that has walked this earth

Die böse böse Deutscher. What would be of Americans without Germans?

Trophy Husband
written by ..., January 21, 2008

The only Brasilian woman I know who sees her foreign husband as a trophy, is Shelly. But then again, she is more like a hyena.

What do you expect, no self-respected man would wanna be seen with that witch. So there comes the typical English guy, pale, facial pimples, big nose, no chin and f**ked-up teeth but with a fat wallet. Well, she jumped at it!

Way to go Shelly!

Costinha

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written by CT, January 21, 2008

"CT
written by A Brazilian, 2008-01-21 20:07:53
I hope your DNA isn't responsible for your spelling, because that would be pretty much messed up.
so great to be part of the most evil people that has walked this earth
Die böse böse Deutscher. What would be of Americans without Germans?"

-lets not worry about my spelling as much as yours, we all just try to type as quickly as we think, so lets leave the small things aside.
-You really meant to say what would be of america without the brits/dutch/spanish, right?
You seem to know it all or believe you do just like Mr.Ricardao & at the end of the day, i still live in a better house, drive a better car & have a better job, i'm sure of it-
So lets stop going around in circles, i sure wouldn't want to be GErman & thank god i'm not, but you seem to just like costinha, are you too related, i can see the resemblance.
So finish answering Gringo.

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written by Gringo, January 21, 2008

Gringão, the only thing you have is a big ego

Funny, Ape thinks I have self esteem issues, maybe when you are both cutting my lawn next week you can trade notes.

a brazilian
written by CT, January 21, 2008

On another note, the germans are the largest immigrant groupt to the u.s. & even though of the mass migrations that this country as had, they still outnumber all the others. And a sin brazil a large mass concentration.
so, lets see i wonder why, because germany gave them such a great lifestyle among other europeans that they had to migrate en mass.

I’m Done!
written by ..., January 21, 2008

I am calling Rotor-Rooter to unblock the latrine. Gringo is like an extra solid hard caca on my bowl. And now, I come to find out that Gringo is the only known human being to have attempted suicide by flushing himself down the toilet.

Costa

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written by CT, January 21, 2008

"CT - Cocô Total
written by ..., 2008-01-21 12:55:59
Genius does what it must, talent does what it can, and you had best do what you're told.
Costinha
PS: Hehehehe"

-Well we all know that you're not talking about ou. Thanks for th compliment.
So now turn th egas oven on a little higher.

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written by Gringo, January 21, 2008

Hey Ape,

I answered you question above, now answer mine. What do you do if a native group doesn’t want your education? I’m waiting. Although I’m not holding my breathe that anything even remotely intelligent will come from you tonight.

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written by Gringo, January 21, 2008

I’m Done!

Ya, this is a good hour to secure your parking turf for the night. Don’t forget, you get a tip if you clean the bird s**t of the windows while guarding the car.

To A Brazilian
written by Bola Preta, January 21, 2008

written by A Brazilian, 2008-01-21 18:53:14

Quite a few Brazilian women think that marrying white American males is "marrying up."



I think it depends on the type of woman, usually those without resources or means try to find a good marriage to "solve" their lives, and usually that means anybody that appears to have plenty of money, not limited to "white American males". That's one of the ways human traffickers manage to fool women into moving to Europe to sexually exploit them later.

Your statement is true only to an extent. There is also the issue of pretige. Being married to a white American carries prestige among Brazilian women in the US, reagrdless of social class. For American men, Brazilian women represent "docility," the submissive wives they cannot find in American women. It is a marriage of desire for prestige with male dominance of patriarchy.

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written by Bola Preta, January 21, 2008

Your statement is true only to an extent. There is also the issue of pretige. Being married to a white American carries prestige among Brazilian women in the US, reagrdless of social class. For American men, Brazilian women represent "docility," the submissive wives they cannot find in American women. It is a marriage of desire for prestige with male dominance of patriarchy.

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written by Bola Preta, January 21, 2008

"written by ..., 2008-01-21 18:42:52
My visualization of you is of an acne-encrusted, balding, 35-stone, 4'7" dwarf in his parent's basement - surrounded by semen-stained socks and old copies of BESTIALITY TODAY. Hehehe!


Good day,"


I wonder if you are projecting yourself in this description. It is usually the case. It is like the real Costinha, who used to make fun of gays all the time. Wasn't he gay himself?

Costinha

Ricardinho
written by CT, January 21, 2008

"Besides many Brazilians have class....
written by Ricardo Amaral, 2008-01-21 04:37:33"

-What a joke, what you really meant to say is that brazilians are unclassy, they just act as if they do.
Since you were born in brazil, that explains why you seem to lack it. Hence your migration to the u.s., i don't see much improvement mr. Yuca.

Bola Preta
written by ..., January 21, 2008

If you were twice as smart as you are now, you'd be chronically stupid. And don't thank me for insulting you. It was my pleasure.

Costinha

Mr. CT (caca turd)
written by ..., January 21, 2008

Like most Americans, you have lost your fingertip grip on reality and have descended into an abyss of irreversible lunacy. May God have mercy upon your soul, my freakish friend.

Costinha

Did someone say Canada???
written by ...., January 21, 2008

What a s**tty frozen wasteland… Canada sucks, and Canadians suck hard. What kind of culture do those miserable people have, Igloos?

Only rejects and draft dodgers live in such damned cold and boring place. If I was George Bush, I would invade Canada and get it over with!

Inha, Inha, Inha
written by CT, January 22, 2008

You, Ricardinho & a brazilian must be related.
All that class rolled into one, wow.

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written by CT, January 22, 2008

"Quite a few Brazilian women think that marrying white American males is "marrying up."
written by ch.c., 2008-01-21 18:37:23
Do you really believe it is any different......for brazilians males ??????
It is certainly a way to get a legal working and residence permit...either in the USA, EU or Japan.
Guess why Brazilians dont marry Chineses, Indians, Pakistanese, Indonesians or Africans.....just to name a few"!

-AGree 100% & when they get what they want men & women, they leave, they have no mercy on what's left behind. I have read & heard of countless stories over & over again. These re the "docile" people until the $ makes them as cold as ice.-

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written by jon canuck, January 22, 2008

Canada?
Since you went your rant, funny how "Nordic" countries such as Norway, Sweden ( countries that are equally frozen like Canada)
and Canada itself are consisently ranked by The UN as the best countries to live in. You are obviously from the Excited States of America so please thank Canada if you spoke on the telephone today..took any insulin.drank any Canada Dry to go with your redneck moonshine...

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written by Bola Preta, January 22, 2008

You are so bright. Ha, ha, ha, ha. What a stupid ass. Mus have an IQ of a chicken. Not even a fraction as funny as the real Costinha.

Reply to CT
written by Ricardo Amaral, January 22, 2008

I have Portuguese roots and I am proud of it, and the most recent Portuguese ancestors that I have, arrived in Brazil about 200 years ago. And I have Portuguese ancestors not only on the Andrada e Silva side of the family, but also on the Souza Queiroz, and Vergueiro to just mention a few traditional Portuguese family names that I have among my ancestors.

I am also a descendant of Dom João I and Dom João III, and both were kings of Portugal from the Aviz Dynasty.

I am a descendant of Jose Bonifacio de Andrada e Silva and also of his brother Martim Francisco – and both of them were grandsons (bisnetos) of the 7th Duke of Bragança.

The two Emperors of Brazil also were descendants of the 7th Duke of Bragança, since the 8th Duke of Bragança became Dom João IV king of Portugal.

Jose Bonifacio’s great-grandfather (bisavo) was the youngest brother of the 8th Duke of Bragança who became Dom João IV king of Portugal.


Souza Queiroz and Vergueiro

Francisco Antonio de Souza Queiroz married Antonia Eufrosina Campos Vergueiro de Souza Queiroz, a daughter of Nicolau Pereira de Campos Vergueiro, a Senator, and D. Maria Angelica de Vasconcelos de Campos Vergueiro (following is some information about Senador Vergueiro, one of my grandmother's great/grandfathers).

Antonia Eufrosina Campos Vergueiro was my grandmother’s - grandmother.

Senador Vergueiro

In 1778, Nicolau Pereira de Campos Vergueiro was born in Portugal, in Val-da-Porca, Província de Tráz-os-Montes. When he was 25 years old he decided to try his luck in Brazil. He arrived in São Paulo in 1803, and started practicing law with the Arouche brothers, Manuel Joaquim Ornellas, and Manuel Eufrásio de Azevedo Marques. These five lawyers were the only lawyers practicing in this small city of 20 thousand people, including 6 thousand slaves.

Vergueiro adapted very well to the way of life of the São Paulo society. It did not take long before he met Maria Angélica de Vasconcelos. She was a beautiful woman and he was also impressed by her culture. Her family also had prestige, influence and a major fortune. After a short courting period of a few months, he married her.

When Emperor D. Pedro I gave the order for the Constituent Assembly dissolution on November 12, 1823, various dep**ados ended up in prison including José Bonifácio de Andrada e Silva, his brothers Antonio Carlos and Martim Francisco, and Nicolau Vergueiro. The Andrada brothers were sent to exile in France, but Vergueiro was allowed to stay in Brazil and continue his career as a dep**ado.

Vergueiro had such a great rep**ation that finally in 1828 he became a senator representing the State of Minas Gerais. In 1828, he was the politician with the most prestige in Brazil.

When Dom Pedro I abdicated the Brazilian crown on April 7, 1831, in favor of his five year old son, the future Dom Pedro II, based on the 1824 Constitution, congress had to elect three people to the provisory regency. The dep**ados and senators chose the following people to be regents: the Brigadier Francisco de Lima e Silva (to represent the armed forces), José Joaquim Carneiro de Campos—Marquês de Caravelas (to represent the aristocracy), and Senador Nicolau Pereira de Campos Vergueiro (because of his prestige as a senator).

When congress elected the permanent regents in 1832, he asked congress to not include him as one of the regents. He still was a senator and a minister of the empire.


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I consider myself a Brazilian, and I have many Portuguese ancestors, but it does not bother me when people say Portuguese jokes, or Brazilian jokes.

By the way, I never heard a joke about Brazilians and if you have some jokes just tell us – maybe we can laugh with you if they are funny.

I have a sense of humor, and many of my friends and fellow Brazilians also have a good sense of humor.


PS: You also said: “Got news for you tell me where in brazil or the u.s. & portugal do you ever see a portuguese person working for or paying rent to a brazilian.”

I guess you have never been in Newark, New Jersey.


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Reply to CT
written by Ricardo Amaral, January 22, 2008

CT said: “And i would hardly say that i suffer from low self esteem, as americans we don't suffer from that, we have no reason to, we make no excuses for everything we say, do.”

In my opinion you should, because when your country is living out of borrowed money – about 90 percent of the savings of the rest of the world – and you think you are rich – then you are in a complete state of delusion.

Today the American economy to stay afloat it depends of the charity of major investors from around the world to the tune of trillions of US dollars. Anybody can play the “I am rich game” with borrowed money.

Today even the biggest American financial institutions such as Merryl Lynch, City Group, Bear Stearns, and many others are going around the world begging to borrow money to keep these American institutions afloat.

I live in the United States and I know I am aboard of the Titanic – and this ship is just about hitting the iceberg head on.

I did your first posting and answered it. But after I posted the information and continued reading the following posts then I realized that you are a mental case. I can take you apart and shred you into pieces, but that would be a waste of time.

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Reply to Ch.c
written by Ricardo Amaral, January 22, 2008

Cn.c said: “Brazilians criticze America to produce ethanol from corn, but Brazil is going to produce ethanol from corn AND biodiesel from soyabeans. To the tune of 15 % of the annual production....by 2010 ! Where is the logic in the critics ? Hmmmmmm. “

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Ricardo: You can bet there’s a lot of American money behind the investments that you are talking about.

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Cn.c said: “Brazilians find quite normal to charge heavy import taxes on goods, but not so when others do the same. Where is the Brazilian common sense? Do they have any?”

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Ricardo: I used to be in international trade and there were a lot of products that we could not import to the United States because of all kinds of duties, taxes, and other barriers.

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Ch.c said: “Brazilians criticize both EU and America at the WTO, but they talk only about agriculture, never about industrial goods or financial services. Guess why....... knowing the Brazilian common sense...or lack of it!”

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Ricardo: Because Brazilians are selling lots of Embraer airplanes into the US market, and services – the best models in the world today are Brazilians and they work in fashion shows in the US (as long they are being paid in euros).

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Ch.c said: “EU and America are by far the biggest Brazilians trade partners, with whom they have a huge trade surplus....but that is NOT enough ! Brazilian common sense....or lack of it....once more ?

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Ricardo: Not for long, since in the coming years Asia it will become the most important market for Brazil.

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Ch.c said: “The same could be said for China and their textiles. Brazil imports 1 % (YESS ONE PERCENT) of the Brazilian textile industry....but that is too much already and you have put some imports restrictions !!!!! Brazilian logic....again ?

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Ricardo: In today’s global economy you have to fight for everything you can get.

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