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I Survived Brazil. Was I Lucky. They Didn't Harvest My Kidney! PDF Print E-mail
Written by Matthew Johnson   
Monday, 28 January 2008 14:56

Scene from the movie Turistas I returned from a trip to Brazil on December 20th, 2007. I know what you're picturing: hammocks stretched between coconut palms, models in string bikinis sauntering down snow white beaches, exotic drinks at the Copacabana.... Such luxuries exist, but they are reserved for those with money and no children. My trip was a family visit in tropical hell.

I married a native Brazilian, so I've been there several times. This was our first trip that included the entire family, excluding the dog, who won a game of rock, paper, scissors with me and got to stay home.

We wanted our two and four-year-old sons to meet their Brazilian family and learn Portuguese. My wife gave up on me long ago, but the children are at the age where their little brains soak up language like a dry sponge. Therefore, we conceived the brilliant plan of having my wife and the kids stay for two months. Due to limited funds and lack of vacation time I had to return after two weeks in order to keep my job at the mine.

Another major objective of the trip was to potty-train our two-year-old. Brazil was the perfect place to do this. Except for the beaches and a few patches of jungle that haven't been mowed down by developers and ranchers, the entire country is covered in ceramic tile. There are no carpets to worry about, so the day we arrived, off came the diapers.

After about a week, my son realized it's easier to use the potty than to soil his clothing, for each incident resulted in a cold shower. My mother-in-law's house does not have hot water, which is no big deal since the air temperature rarely dips low enough to warrant long pants, let alone a warm shower.

Visiting Brazil has always been difficult for me. I'm a Yankee blue blood who gets a heat rash the minute I cross the Mason Dixon line. Even though a wonderful breeze ran through my mother-in-law's house, it lacked air conditioning. The air felt quite refreshing while sitting on the porch with a cold beer, but after several rounds of chase and a game of "climb the mountain up daddy's chest" with a two-year-old, I was ready for an oxygen mask and a walk-in meat freezer.

My inability to speak the native language kept me in virtual isolation. Only a few people I met spoke English, and those who didn't, barely acknowledged my existence. During previous trips, this was no problem. I just wandered off and read a book or took a nap. However, with young children around, napping and reading became a mere pipe dream, and the majority of my conversation was limited to speaking toddlerese.

I spent most of my time preventing them from falling out of wide-open second story windows, keeping them away from a caged parrot that liked to eat fingers, and generally yelling at them for doing everything from wasting water to playing with dead insects.

I don't know how my wife does it, but after about a week of this, I became a babbling idiot. To make matters worse, my Brazilian niece and nephew constantly spoke to me in their native tongue, even after I explained to them over a hundred times, in Portuguese, that I don't speak the language. This made no sense to them, so they just kept trying. How could an adult be so stupid as to not speak the language?

The overpowering monotony of daily child care forced me to find creative, entertaining activities to keep my sanity. One day, while lying on the bed watching a Donald Duck DVD for the seventeen-thousandth time, I discovered a strange spider that looked like it might be a cousin of the monster in the "Alien." Lucky for me, it was already dead. I probably rolled over on it just as it was about to take a chunk out of my ass.

I flicked it off the bed and it landed near an expressway of ants running along the floor at the base of the wall. These particular ants are not indigenous. Being from Japan, they are about one tenth the size of an average ant. Having no natural predators, they wandered all over the house.

I moved the spider's body directly into their path, and they descended upon it like a horde of college students eating late-night pizza. I wanted to see how long it would take the little carnivores to completely dispatch the carcass. Unfortunately, my science experiment abruptly ended with two stomps of my wife's flip-flop. Although disappointed, I had the good sense not to admonish her, fearing I could very well be her next victim.

During the weekend, my sister-in-law graciously took us to a beach house an hour up the Atlantic Coast. A beautiful property surrounded by a high wall, it boasted banana trees, coconut palms, mango trees, and cashew fruit trees nearby.

A plethora of wildlife lived in and around the dwelling. One day, we were delighted to see some Brazilian monkeys hanging out in the fruit trees. However, this paled in comparison to the frogs in the toilet. It was always a good idea to check the bowl before you sat down. The day we arrived, I spotted two in there. Even after several flushes, they clung tenaciously to the porcelain.

Later in the day, a yellow one greeted me as I stepped naked into the shower. I flicked my towel at him, hoping he'd go back down the drain, but instead he jumped onto the glass door making a sound like a wet suction cup. After imagining what that would feel like on my leg while shampooing, I made a deal with him. If he promised not to jump on me, I promised not to stomp him out of existence (I wouldn't really do that, but don't tell the frog).

Frogs are actually very useful because they eat insects, and there is no shortage of those in Brazil, especially at the beach house. Every day around five o'clock, we shut the house up to keep the mosquitoes out. Trying to seal off a beach house in Brazil is like installing a screen door on a submarine.

Despite our best efforts, little clouds of hungry insects buzzed around our heads as we ate supper and prepared for bed. We were lucky to sleep in an enclosed room with an air conditioner, a rare luxury, but even so, the next day, my two boys looked like they had the measles from all the bites on their face. I fared much better, being a stinky old white man with thick skin and beer-soaked blood.

One morning, my son pointed at something scurrying across the bedroom floor. "Look at that big bug, papai (father)."

It was a cockroach the size of Rhode Island. I smacked it with my brother-in-law's sandal, and made a mental note never to walk from the bed to the bathroom again without the light on.

That cockroach paled in comparison to the flying cockroach that buzzed into my mother-in-law's kitchen several days later. My wife and all three of her sisters stood around chatting in Portuguese. Being natives, you'd think a giant flying insect would be no big deal, but they reacted as if the guy from the Texas Chain Saw Massacre just showed up for dinner. Normally, I would have been the one screaming, but being the only male in the room, it became apparent that I had to deal with the situation.

The critter landed on the refrigerator door, so I gave an Austin Power's judo kick to knock it to the floor where I could squish it, but lucky for me and my thinly clad feet, it flew back outside.

By the end of the two weeks, I was ready to swim home if I had to. As I dusted the termite droppings off my belongings and packed them in my suitcase, a feeling of dread overcame me. My return flight connected through São Paulo, a two-hour trip by air from Salvador. What if something happened and I got stuck there all alone?

A gringo like me without a street-wise native speaker wouldn't last long. I'd probably be robbed blind and left on a street corner wrapped in an American flag where someone would set fire to me.

Before I could even start worrying about São Paulo, I had to get to the airport. My brother-in-law, Fernando, borrowed his brother's car and dutifully volunteered to drive me. We left with plenty of time, but he had to run an errand for his work. He left me in the car with the windows down in a dilapidated parking lot somewhere in the middle of the city.

I felt vulnerable because the windows were electric and he took the keys with him. After a half hour of sitting and sweating, hoping no one would try to harvest my kidneys, relief washed over me as I saw him approach the car.

He reached inside and felt the ignition. "Where are the keys?"

"You took them," I answered.

He checked his pants, then all the pockets in his backpack, but came up empty.

"Oh, I think I know," he said, then ran back through the parking lot and out of sight.

My heart climbed up the back of my throat.

Five painful minutes later, he reappeared out of breath with huge sweat stains soaking his shirt. Lucky for me, he also possessed the keys.

"I dropped them by the elevator," he explained as he jumped in the car.

I flashed a weak grin while suppressing an urge to cover him in vomit.

After a wild ride through the city, which is typical whether you're in a hurry or not, we made it to the airport in one piece. After parking the car, Fernando joined me in the check-in line.

He felt bad about the whole key thing. "Do you want a beer?"

"No, thanks."

"C'mon. You need a beer. It's no problem."

I didn't want to be rude, and thought I'd have enough time for a quick one. "Okay, one beer."

With that, he ran off somewhere. I thought he might grab a table at a café or something, but a few minutes later, he reappeared with two beers, opened them, and handed one to me. I was next in line, and there I stood with an open beer and three pieces of luggage. I wasn't sure what to do.

In the US, I would probably be arrested. Not wanting to appear ungrateful, I emptied the entire contents with a few huge gulps, gasped a "thank you" that ended in a wet burp, and handed him the empty bottle. I hadn't slammed a beer like that since college, but it's amazing what you can do under pressure.

I landed in São Paulo on time, but my arrival flight was an international connection. This meant I had to go through customs, and after waiting in line with the foreigners, an official told me to get in line with the Brazilians. This confused me, but the guard let me through without any questions.

I didn't know what to do next. Should I get my luggage? Did I have to check in again? After running around for about an hour, waiting in different lines and asking anyone with a uniform what I should do, I finally found the correct line.

After passing through security, I searched for my gate. My ticket read gate nine, but the monitor reported my flight departing at gate seven. The monitor should be the correct one, I assumed. The monitor at gate nine displayed a flight for London. I located gate seven, but it was on the other side of a glass wall.

After running along the wall like a caged animal for twenty minutes, it became apparent that there was no way around. I could see gate seven was empty. Had I missed my flight? Adrenaline coursed through my body like acid as panic set in. I envisioned myself slamming my fists against the glass, sliding slowly to the floor as two policemen grabbed my ankles and dragged me away. My deepest fear was becoming reality.

I spotted an airport employee hurrying by and blocked his path. "Licença (excuse me), do you speak English?"

"No," he answered.

Like a typical American, I continued, holding out my ticket. "My ticket says this flight leaves from gate nine, but the monitor says gate seven. Which is it?"

"Oh," he said, as if it were the most obvious thing on the planet, "Gate seven is gate nine."

To me, that phrase summed up the confusion that is Brazil. Apparently, you had to go through door at gate nine to get to gate seven. I felt better after other passengers showed up in a total panic, wondering how to get to gate seven. At least I wasn't the only one in the dark.

My flight left on time without any issues, but even after taking off, I didn't relax until the wheels touched down at my final destination. As a result, I went a total thirty-six hours without sleep.

Even the mountain of frozen snow greeting me at the end of my driveway and the haze of sleep deprivation didn't dampen my mood. I had made it all the way home, and the only thing that could surpass my jubilation at that moment was the safe return of my family to my side.



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Matthew.... That's funny as hell!
written by ..., January 28, 2008
Sorry, but I cracked-up on your story, pretty funny stuff. Your sense of humor is what makes one live longer lives.

Thank you,

Costinha
not much of a world hopper are you
written by forrest allen brown, January 28, 2008
what would you have done if you would have had to put the barrell on the donkey cart every day and go to the pond to get water .

then to get a shower hold a gallon of water in a bucket and poor it over your head .

the kids were just trying to help you to learn there tong

that is whom helped me learn as i taught them english .

may i say next time you go you should do it in july as it is colder down south

and you could feel better about yourself .
golly
written by Simpleton, January 28, 2008
Quite the tale Matt. Thank you so much. Some things seem so familiar. You had some luxuries though. At least you had your kids with you and even though they spoke toddlereze you had a verbal connection to people with you that you understood.

You should try that voyage again but without them and without your spouse who we assume speaks english. Going for immersion with non-speakers of your own language is a such a gas. Next time bring a boy scout tent mosquito liner for yourself, out of kindness give it to someone else to use (since the beer soaked chiggar proofed gringo metabolism does actually function quite well on it's own - fact!) and let Vovo keep the airconditioned room / one with the best ventilation (four cold showers or so spaced out through the day and night will take care of the heat rash and get you permission to stay inside the house - another fact).
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written by Rich Jalbert, January 29, 2008
Matthew I feel for you. My wife is also from Brazil. In my 1st trip to Brazil 15 years ago after 20 hours of airports as well as a 4 hour ride through mountain roads from Belo Horizonte to Ipatinga where everyone was driving like Mario Andretti all I wanted was a shower. As I got in the shower I yelled to my wife how I can get hot water. She told me to turn the switch. She neglected to tell me that the piece of wood hanging in the shower was how you could turn the switch on without getting electrocuted. Shocking!

Overall it was quite an experience although a little air conditioning would have been nice. I never did get used to the way people drive. Twice I prayed to God just to get us to our destination safely. 300 people died in motor vehicle accidents between Christmas and New Year.

Oh and my wife wasn't too crazy about the kidney comment. We watched Turista returned the states. All in all a fun place to visit.
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written by X, January 29, 2008
Ask your wife to translate.




O gate 7 e do lado do Gate 9 meu filho. O stress que voce fica nem compensa . E depois ainda perguntam porque o Eua e maior consumidor de droga legal e ilegal do mundo. So tem paranoico e estressados,.



Se voce quer ar condicionado e so comprar. Em cada esquina no Brasil tem uma lojas Bahia. . Se voce nao tem 400 dolares para comprar um ar condicionado fica em casa. Pobre nao tem direito a viajar para outro pais.


Eu nao sei se voce sabe mas tem um negocio que se chama supermercado. Voce da dinheiro para ele e eles vendem o spray que mata barata.


Isso que da pobre viajar.





I feel really bad for your wife...
written by Angela, January 29, 2008
I like the details of your writing, and I understand that traveling to another country can be really exhausting.

That said, it seems you don't try very hard to enjoy yourself! Your isolation is self-imposed, and your finicky, paranoid experiences aren't particularly interesting or even funny (to me).

It's a shame you perpetuate negative stereotypes of a place that has enough to work against as is.

I'm sorry to say, but you seem to be like one of those gringos that make everybody question why a nice girl went so far away just to find a closed-minded, grumpy and boring guy.

There are more things than bugs and crazy people in Brazil. Excluding your wife of course, she's crazy to put up with you.
Lighten Up
written by MKJ246, January 29, 2008
Wow, some people took this article way too seriously. I didn't mean to offend anyone. I've been to Brazil four times, and each time was a lot of fun, except for this trip, which was very challenging because of small children. I wrote this out of fun to make people laugh. There was a lot of good things about Brazil I could have written about, but equally a lot of bad things, like the abject poverty.

Lighten up, folks!
MKJ246
written by João da Silva, January 29, 2008
Lighten up, folks!


Right. I also liked the picture you posted in your humorous article. Were you the one tied to the pole and being transported by those two "natives" ? smilies/wink.gif
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written by MKJ246, January 29, 2008
Were you the one tied to the pole and being transported by those two "natives" ?

smilies/grin.gif - No, João, but I might as well have been! The picture was generously supplied by the site management.
Nice Work Dude
written by Woody Allen, January 29, 2008
Fantastic effort in making every Brazilian reader here reaffirm the stereotype of the ugly American. Next time you have to potty train a child, try going to Louisiana or anywhere in the mountains of the US. You'll still have the bugs, but they speak English.

I've stayed at 5-star resorts in Maine and had bugs in the room. The story was cute but you clearly left out the positive parts of the trip. Did you NOT go to the beach, and did you NOT see the fantastic babes? I'd crawl a mile through broken glass to witness those miracles of evolution, let alone buy them a beer, which you obviously did not drink enough of.

I spent last weekend in a 100 year old farm house on a river, drinking, smoking, eating, and seeing if cachaca was in fact a viable substitute for the Yellow Fever vaccine. (It is). At 3 in the morning I was watching "Pretty Woman" with the gentleman who runs the ranch, smoking hideous cigarettes and drinking fantastically cold beer. The bat flying through the room didn't bother anyone. It was paradise.

Airport hassle? Try O'Hare. You won't be having a drink in line there. You should have stayed for Carnaval. I think that would have solved your problem.

Woody

p.s. You have two kidneys. The organ most people leave in Brazil is their heart. Mine's in Rio.
The organ most people leave in Brazil is their heart ( so true)
written by Peter Pan, January 29, 2008
I have to agree with Woody "Fantastic effort in making every Brazilian reader here reaffirm the stereotype of the ugly American." You might have written this article as a "joke" thinking it is funny, but I don't think it's funny. I wonder why you would have a Brazilian wife understanding so little about Brazil and the Brazilian people. Your inlaws must think you a total zero.
All the Brazilians I've met go out of their way to make you feel a part of what's happening, ESPECIALLY if you don't know the language. This was probably the case with you and you didn't notice it or didn't want to. As an american, lover of Brazilians and the culture I apologize, just consider the source of this article.
Amazing Brazil
written by Mary - Brazilian by heart, January 29, 2008
I totally agree with Woody and Peter Pan. The Brazilian's are the most caring and warm people i ever met.
I go to Brazil every other year, and every time my vacation ends there's a hole in my heart. I would love to move there, to live the life they do and to be able to speak portuguese fluently. (what a beautiful language!).

So sorry u felt miserable there... maybe u should stay here next time.

smilies/sad.gif wish i could be there right now...
Take it easy people & Learn a little Portuguese
written by Sy, January 29, 2008
I love brasil - the people, music, food, language, but I also thought this was funny as hell. Believe me Americans can get a lot uglier than this. But when you are not use to the tropics it can be somewhat like this, imagine an African American New Yorker in a white neighborhood in Florida or Louisiana.... could be just as scary. I think maybe some of this is a little exaggerated for the humor. Obviously, Matt speaks a little more o portugues do que ele fala smilies/shocked.gif
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written by Mary - Brazilian by heart, January 29, 2008
well... i just think Matt should embrace the cultural aspect, and not just point out the "hard times".

Maybe going to Rio or Sao Paulo could help... beautiful cities, amazing people and tons of places to see ... even with children.


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Culture
written by Brazilian To Be, January 29, 2008
I, too, agree that some reading this article need to relax and recognize the intent of the author.

I am an American who has lived in NE Brazil for the past for years. This coming summer, I will make it my permanent home when I marry a native Brazilian (and I can't wait!). All that to say, I can relate to every single one of the experiences you wrote about (although I actually watched the ants destroy a c**kroach instead of spider). I remember well when I first arrived in Brazil and couldn't understand a thing being said to me (Those who tell you that you can understand Portuguese if you speak Spanish are lying - well, for non-native speakers anyway!) , so when I arrived in the São Paulo airport, I did what every mother tells her child not to do: I followed the crowd. I became fascinated by the ants, especially as I watched them manuver the tile floor. I could just imagine one saying to another, "Now to get to the refrigerator, you go down three tiles and then take a left..." Cold showers, frogs in the bathroom, a daily walk to buy bread (oh, and that threw me for a while - pay here, pick up there) - all familiar AND FOND memories. And that, people, I believe is the point.

There are cultural (and lifestyle) differences which is exactly what makes each culture it's own, and yes, we feel those differences when we go beyond our culture; but did you all miss the fact that BOTH Matthew and his Brazilian wife decided to potty train their child in Brazil? Obviously she didn't want to do any more carpet cleaning than he did. And did you catch that Matthew wants his kids to learn Portuguese and recognizes their ages to be an apt time to do so? Or did it occur to you that this American and Brazilian have made several trips (this one specifically for their children to get to know their Brazilian family), and even more significant, that with a four-year-old son they are doing well at making a dual-culture marriage work?

Parabéns, Matthew. Gostei. A funny, witty exchange to which many travelers who don't understand the language around them can relate. I will confess that the title seems odd and a bit severe. Petty theft is rampant in cities (I live in Fortaleza and know countless people who have been assulted), and while watches, cell phones, jewelry and purses are high on the list, kidney's usually are not.
Thanks Brazilian To Be
written by MKJ246, January 29, 2008
Thanks for the kind counter points, Brazilian To Be. I appreciate that.

When I wrote this, I had just returned from a bad trip which paled in comparison to my earlier trips, which were a lot of fun. There are a lot of things I love about Brazil which I didn't cover here, and as you noted, that wasn't the intent of the piece. For the most part, I have had very positive experiences there, and the negative things are all very petty (as are depicted in this story). The worst that ever happened to me was a bad sunburn and getting pick-pocketed (not mentioned here, you'll notice).

The original title to this piece was simply "Escaping Brazil" - the site editors added the comment in the title about the kidneys. As we all know - the kidney story is urban legend.

And I do speak some Portuguese - I just can't spell or write it worth a darn. I do hope to learn it eventually, and my sons will probably do a good job of teaching me when they return. I miss them.

Thanks again.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........
written by Mike Messy, January 29, 2008
That is one boring article. You obviously don't get out of small town America very much.
Matt's wrong?
written by Shea McCandless, January 29, 2008
I'm appalled at the derision here. What was wrong? Is Brazil a paradise, or should it be painted so? Odds are, the real Brazilian doesn't read this. What's funny to me, living here, I identified with everything he said. Have any of you been stuck in a house in a foreign country where the 'grandmother' thinking of safety, remembering the robberies that took place down the street, wouldn't allow her grandchildren near the street? What do you do? Move to the 'interior?' Leave? Or try to be a parent taking the best of the situation offered? Coming down here, as a gringo, o marido, and with children in tow, is far from simple. Every Brazilian should remember what Vovo said: In my day, we played in the street. Is that possible now?

Matt's story reads as a commentary on urban life in Brazil. Yeah. Go to the beach. Is that all there is?

Reading these comments is like believing Lula wants to end corruption. Brazil has issues. Matt's article illuminated a few of them. Don't attack the messenger, people.
Shea
written by João da Silva, January 29, 2008
Reading these comments is like believing Lula wants to end corruption. Brazil has issues. Matt's article illuminated a few of them. Don't attack the messenger, people.


You in cahoots with Matt? smilies/wink.gif
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written by Bill, January 29, 2008
Matt I liked your story and I see no reason for anyone to criticize it. Since my wife is also from Bahia it reminds me of a few trips to Brasil myself. I've never seen any frogs in the showers or toilets but your story of the flying c**kroach is right on. Since my wife and her sisters have lived with these miserable creatures all their lives I don't understand why I too am always called to recuse them from the prehistoric monsters when my father-in-law is conveniently absent.I've also experienced my own desperation with the "glass wall" at the Sao Paulo airport.The only way to get to the other side is to go all the way back into the terminal.

In truth as I'm sure you also realize surviving these things is what makes the trip in retrospect a lot more fun. It's an adventure and I doubt I would enjoy it so much if everything always went according to plan.
Plans? What plans?
written by Simpleton, January 29, 2008
I think some of the commentaters (common taters?) read way way too much in to Matt's story. I found it funny as heck in most places. I as well as others speaking out above have experienced some things with a great degree of parallelism to what he portrayed. I look back on those experiences with great fondness although they weren't exactly calm inducing at the time. My bets are all of us would quickly return to where our hearts were left if given a chance - bugs, heat rash, seemingly absent minded but kind hearted brother-in-laws and all. I don't think any of us see in Matt's story anything intended to be disrespectful, deragotory, accusational, derisive, agitative. Guess you've just have to have gotten out of small town anywhere and lived it once yourself - that or maybe the experiences switching cultures the other way around don't have much humor. Try asking if someone thinks they are intelligent repeatedly until they say yes or at least maybe. Then ask them what throwing butter out the window makes. Now try to to that same thing in portugues. Manteiga-mosca? I just don't get the joke so leave it at that x Angela Woody PP.

Joao - what's a cahoots? Something to do with that famous bar-restaurant chain called Hoops or Hooper's or ???
Simpleton
written by João da Silva, January 29, 2008
Great comments by your good self, as usual. I found Matt´s story to be very hilarious and he was poking fun at all the first time visitors to Brazil!

Joao - what's a cahoots? Something to do with that famous bar-restaurant chain called Hoops or Hooper's or ???


Cahoots=Some kind of sinister partnership!!. To understand my comment, scroll down on the home page of this magazine and read:

http://www.brazzil.com/content/view/10032/41/

Shea=Hook Ass

Little Peter (Pedrinho) of Shea couldn't become as famous as the spiders, c**kroaches, etc; of Matt!!.

Ah, Simpleton, do you think that guy tied to the pole in the picture is our friend Ch.c?
Back Home
written by Ric, January 29, 2008
I just got back from spending all day out in the interior in an audiencia with posseiros and a judge, I´ve spent plenty of time out in the jungle and used to stay in the cheapest hotels on the Transamazon. So I´m not really a tourist. I like mosquito nets and Off.

What I think the author has stumbled on here is the fact that Brazil is very nice if you fly business class, rent comparatively larger cars with air conditioning (and large trunks for your baggage), stay in better hotels, eat in the good restaurants. But people who live here and can´t afford air conditioning in their cars, can´t afford drivers and housekeepers and maids, and cooks, and use buses and public transportation, often have a life style that would be totally unacceptable to North Americans in terms of tropical heat, mosquitos and roaches, the grinding reality of the traffic and personal safety. And stay away from the old tin electric shower heads. Get a plastic one and run a ground wire to it. And the lower middle class can´t escape from the crime and safety issues.
Pay the Pro
written by Ric, January 29, 2008
And when in bus stations or airports, pay the money and have the guys with the larger carts move your baggage.

Curitiba is supposed to be so great, I was there for a week last month, they told me the only elevators in the airport, two units side by side, have been out of service since late 2006. So you have to do what you are not supposed to, use the escalator to carry your cart from floor to floor. If you are travelling alone, there´s no other way to do it.
Nao ch.c
written by Simpleton, January 29, 2008
Joao - The photo is from when the big pack of "jovems" throwing rocks (and anything else tossable) down off the hillside at the police and municiple guards forgot they couldn't fly. When the re-enforcements showed up and re-took the high ground they carried some of these carried away Brazillian "children" out of the park. Still having difficulties with "children" in the 20-33 range being called rapazes / jovem when they cause a bit of trouble.

Ric, with effort and keen eyes you can find someone very dynamic who not only negociates a decent rate for a small economical car for you (without trying to snag a commish!), they'll even serve as driver, housekeeper, maid, cook and all around good drinking buddy for your let's skip town road tours! Of course there'll be something they or their family needs which will get mentioned in passing and you will graciously provide without being formally asked. Ultimately the airconditioned coach and high end hotel might be cheaper but not nearly as fun. Lot to be said for both off the beaten path nature experiences and mingling socially with locals vs what you get on the pro-line coyote trails.
Angela
written by CT, January 30, 2008
"It's a shame you perpetuate negative stereotypes of a place that has enough to work against as is."

-Why is it a shame, it's the tuth isn't, his experiences are his not yours-

"I'm sorry to say, but you seem to be like one of those gringos that make everybody question why a nice girl went so far away just to find a closed-minded, grumpy and boring guy".

-Becasuse they don't have any open-minded guys in brzil, what they do have is grumpy and boring yound and old guys-
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written by CT, January 30, 2008
"Amazing Brazil
written by Mary - Brazilian by heart, 2008-01-29 13:55:22
I totally agree with Woody and Peter Pan. The Brazilian's are the most caring and warm people i ever met".

-Waht a joke, warm &friendly, that's just the surface, hate to se you find out the real ugly truth about what these people are truly about. Do youactuallyread any of the artivles & comments onthis forum?-

"I go to Brazil every other year, and every time my vacation ends there's a hole in my heart. I would love to move there, to live the life they do and to be able to speak portuguese fluently. (what a beautiful language!). So sorry u felt miserable there... maybe u should stay here next time. wish i could be there right now...

-so go right ahead & move there & then you can see the reality first hand-
Now… If Shelly Was the Wife
written by ..., January 30, 2008
I leave that s.h.i.t. behind!

Costinha
Where is the Bruxa?
written by ..., January 30, 2008
aka Shelly.

Costa
Shelly…
written by ..., January 30, 2008
Did you read the article titled “Brazil Guarantees: There Will Be Free Condoms for All This Carnaval” ??? Read the report!

Come on down, with the help of Lula I got you covered babe.

Your Costa

PS: Say hello to that english princess dudette for me.
Loved the read
written by Paul Oliphant, January 31, 2008
Listen, loved the article. Great sence of humour. You should publish it on lonelyplanet.com
I can understand where you're coming from, my Brazilian wife felt the same way when we visited India last year. All she wanted to do was leave. All cultures are different. The first time I arrived in Brazil from Australia, i was like Oh My God where am I!? But Brazil is a country that grows on you, it takes time and understanding. Its different from first world countires like where you and I are from and people have to accept that. I learnt how to speak Pourguese after a while and I grew to love Brazil. We are moving back there next year to live therer forever. I love Brazil and I miss it very much. I'm sure if you had of gone to Brazil as a younger single man, you would have enjoyed it 10 times as much.
later
How foolish of you.
written by William, January 31, 2008
Your attempt at comedy only magnified your own ignorance which sadly reflects why so much of the world views Americans as fools.

My wife is also Brazilian, and we share our time in the States and Brazil equally. I have travelled fairly extensively throughout the country, and have not witnessed anything remotely similar that would compare with your rather limited experiences there.

Poverty is there to be sure as well as it is present in every country including the States. Your close mindedness quite likely contributed to your experience more so that what you felt you were experiencing.

When I first began living there I spoke relatively little Portuguese and found with rare exception people who were quite patient and very helpful with my lack of knowledge of the language. I have since learned to speak this beautiful language, and if you would set your Bush attitude and aptitude aside you would find how much you have missed and are missing at present.

Next time your wife travels to visit her family, she needs to leave your sorry ass at home.

William
William
written by João da Silva, January 31, 2008
How foolish of you.


Bill, I am chagrined, upset and totally taken aback by your vitriolic attack on Matt and his article.It demonstrates your close mindedness and total lack of sense of humor. I can go on for ever attacking you,but it will be a waste of time.

I ain't going to recommend anybody to go to your school Inglês ILEGAL.BTW, do you have a license to teach (or speak)English in this country? I don't think so.

May our Spiders,Roaches, Alligators and other heinous living things devour you for having made such blasphemous comments.
Gringo
written by GTY, January 31, 2008
I am really glad that you were such a pathetic gringo in Brazil; your wife must be proud of you, obviously, her main goal here is a green card and to keep you in the mines while she does her nails and gossips with all her Brazilian friends and knowing Brazilian women who need a real man, I would keep a close eye on my best friends. My trips however are much different, while my Brazilian wife is visting her Brazilian family and friends...me, along with her Brazilian family and friends are visiting the local sites, including some of the best places to pick up fine women in the world, fishing, beach, drinking and f**king, Brazil, with the right attitude is paradise, a place with no equal in the entire world.

Yes my gringo pussy friend, you keep worrying about bugs and losing a kidney and I will take care of all the Brazilian women, thus saving the USA's rep**ation, for you see, you are what they view as the typical gringo, and when you are not looking, you are the joke. I hope the mine is f**king cold and damp, I will be on Ipanema in just two short weeks...and the really good news, my wife will return to the US two weeks ahead of me!
what a moron!
written by Nana terra, January 31, 2008
you may have tried to write a funny article, but you just made yourself look like a blabbling idiot. Try learning a second language, though if your brain is as bad as your attitude, you won't be able to.
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written by CT, January 31, 2008
How funny most of you gringoes are, anyone country can grow on anyone if you want it too.
Why would anyone want to live in a 3rd world country when they can have a better lifestyle elsewhere for their families & children is beyond me.
I also find it funny that most of these gringoes are not hinking with their head straight up, most of these women want to go back so they can be close to their families, friends to laugh at you guys when your not looking & will sell you in a heart beat if someone better comes along. Of course as long as you have $ they are fine.
GTY got it right, it's all about attitude, he's playing her/them before she plays him or she has already.
Rock on GTY.
GTY
written by João da Silva, January 31, 2008
May our Spiders,Roaches, Alligators and other heinous living things devour you TOO for having made such blasphemous comments smilies/grin.gif
B-proof for GTY
written by Simpleton, January 31, 2008
You want me to bring that B-proof replacement for the back side of your appto? Timing is about right we'll be there too. If you're not ready for installation maybe I should just swing by to get measurements made. You needn't be there - you can trust me. Your wife really is marvellous ya know.
My posts in a previous thread...
written by bo, February 01, 2008
seem much more appropriate here.

Do you know what I'm going to miss when I leave Brazil? First and foremost, my daughter. Other than that, it's really all trivial.

I'll miss not being able to drive down the road 100mph with a can of beer in my hand after I've already drank numerous and get pulled over by the police at a roadblock and have a conversation with him with the beer still in my hand.smilies/cheesy.gif

I'll miss people banging into me while in the mall and/or opening their car doors and banging them into mine without a look, without a realization that anything even happened, with an "excuse me", "sorry", or "go f**k yourself". smilies/grin.gif

I'll miss phone calls from the police and good friends saying, "Your friend has just been shot", or in one case, "Your friend was just robbed and murdered in his home." smilies/sad.gif

I'll miss hitting potholes at night the size of a crater and having to spend thousands of reais afterwards to fix the damage. smilies/shocked.gif

I'll miss the complete and utter lack of security and appropriate feeling that I'm living in the Wild West where the "fastest gun wins!" smilies/wink.gif

I'll miss the lines at the bank waiting hours, and having to show up at a doctors office at 6:45 am and wait in his waiting room until afternoon for a 15 minute check-up.

And I'll certainly miss the monthly fights with the telecommunications companies, the energy company, the water company, and their quick and thoughtful way of resolving your problems in a 3-6 month time period after you've spent about a solid 168 hours over that time period trying to resolve them. smilies/grin.gif
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written by bo, February 01, 2008
I'm going to miss Saturday's or Sunday's when my neighbor invites his buddy over and he arrives in a pickup truck with a speaker in the bed that is bigger than the truck and begins to play music so loud that it is completely distorted and vibrates every window and door in my house to the point where we can't even hear the tv while sitting 2 feet in front of it! smilies/cheesy.gif

I'm going to miss my "check especial" with it's 15% monthly interest rate!! smilies/shocked.gif

I'm going to miss travelling on the roads and when approaching a knoll and seeing on the other side an 18 wheeler coming right at me in my land and completely forcing us off the road! smilies/cheesy.gif

I'm going to miss my power going out at least once a week, and sometimes every other day, although there isn't a storm in sight, only blue, sunny skies.

I'm going to miss talking to a customer service rep. on the phone and after telling her 10 times that, "I'm sorry, but I can't hear you. " Then miraculously I can hear her completely clear as she obviously decided to put the microphone in front of her mouth instead of the previous positon which was above her head!! smilies/grin.gif

I'm going to miss having to explain to foreign investors that we're well aware that they're sending 400,000 reais to brazil to buy their brazilian property yet they're only going to receive a deed or title that will state the transaction occurred for only 100,000 reais....effectively making their "clean" money they sent to Brazil "dirty"! People usually do the opposite, don't they? smilies/wink.gif

And last but not least on the "What I'm going to miss in Brazil" top 25 list is being in a country where being one of it's citizens means NEVER HAVING TO SAY I'M SORRY!!! smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/cheesy.gif



And if you guys want to get a really good laugh, while writing this response I was just ready to click "add comment" and guess what???

THE POWER WENT OUT! smilies/cheesy.gif

and then guess what?

I called to make the power company aware and when nearly finished "abrindo meu reclamação" we got disconnected!!! A ligacão caiu!!!! smilies/grin.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/cheesy.gif

Now it's to the point where we just sit and laugh!
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written by bo, February 01, 2008
I'm going to miss having diarrhoea during 33% of my life!! smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif

I'm going to miss the doctor's accurate diagnosis' in telling my friends and family to "just go home...you're ok", and then hours later they have a stroke or in my daughters case have to be rushed to Sao Paulo (like it's across the street) or she would've died. smilies/angry.gif Ever hear about the 3 best hospitals in the northeast of Brazil? Vasp, Varig, and Tam!!! And now Vasp and Varig have gone kaput!!! smilies/grin.gif

I'm going to miss the "on time", no delay flights at the airports. As well as watching dignified, "educated", brazilian couples completely "lose it" at a Tam ticket counter!!! smilies/cheesy.gif

I'm going to miss the thoughtful way Brazilians dispose of garbage they accrue while in their car by simply tossing it out the window at 80 KPH!! smilies/grin.gif

I'm going to miss living in a country that has more of it's citizens/residents die from violent death every year than citizens from countries that are at war! smilies/shocked.gif

I'm going to miss paying 36,000 dollar for a Nissan Sentra!! smilies/wink.gif

I'm going to miss dodging the horses on the street. smilies/grin.gif

I'm going to miss having to pay for apartments, land, or houses, things that cost 20,000 reais and up, "a vista", in cash, but being able to di-vi-di smilies/grin.gif, finance, a 20 dollar rug over the course of a year!! smilies/cheesy.gif

I'm going to miss the efficiency of the brazilian court system. At times it can take 10 years or more to settle a simple matter. smilies/sad.gif

I'm going to miss people looking at me and my friend like we're from Mars when we speak to one another in english! smilies/cheesy.gif

At just for you c**kstinha (drumroll).......What I'm going to miss a LOT about Brazil when I finally leave.....are knuckledragging idiots that yell in their broken portuguese through their "summer teeth" (sum 'er here and sum 'er there) "Eu sou Brasileiro" (I am brazilian....e com orgulho), "voltar para seu pais Americano!!" (go back to your country american) smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/grin.gif
You people crack me up
written by MKJ246, February 01, 2008
I'm having more fun reading these comments than I did writing this article! smilies/tongue.gif
you should really learn portuguese
written by phoebe Ferris-Rotman, February 01, 2008
story was amusing but i have no sympathy for you... plenty of people in their adulthood learn a new language. you have a brazilian wife, you want your kids to learn the language, and you visit often. you could take evening classes after work once a week. you could have taken a couple classes when you were out there. seems sheer laziness and lack of motivation. no wonder you felt in isolation.. but you could have helped that!
Not asking for sympathy
written by MKJ246, February 01, 2008
Just for the record, Phoebe, I am trying to learn Portuguese, and I do know a lot of common phrases (can't write it at all).

Deutsch ist meine zweite Sprache. (German is my second language)
READ
written by READ, February 01, 2008
Brasil is a great country for someone who understands its culture. It may be different from where you guys are from, but what did you expect? Best Buys and CVS, Dunkin Donuts, Hiltons, Staples, and English speaking people? Then just stay home. I have been here for 3 months today, and I enjoyed every day of my stay. My wife loves it here. The sun, the people, the beaches, the whole cultural aspect of Brasil. If you don't like the traffic in Sao Paulo or Belo Horizonte, try going to an island in Rio. Ilha Grande is really awesome, and no cars are allowed on it, so you get to experience this paradise with close to no pollution and great crystal clear water. If you like sports, you are also in the right place. I aggressive rollerblade, play tennis, soccer, volley, and many more. Brasil is the perfect place to have a competitive game before dark, then go out for drinks at night. In this culture, family is also usually much more appreciated than in other places, which is really cool in my opinion. So pretty much, what I am trying to say is:
Travel somewhere you know you will enjoy, by researching its ways of life first, or stay home and shut the f*ck up!
READ
written by João da Silva, February 01, 2008
I have been here for 3 months today, and I enjoyed every day of my stay. My wife loves it here. The sun, the people, the beaches, the whole cultural aspect of Brasil. If you don't like the traffic in Sao Paulo or Belo Horizonte, try going to an island in Rio. Ilha Grande is really awesome, and no cars are allowed on it, so you get to experience this paradise with close to no pollution and great crystal clear water. If you like sports, you are also in the right place. I aggressive rollerblade, play tennis, soccer, volley, and many more. Brasil is the perfect place to have a competitive game before dark, then go out for drinks at night. In this culture, family is also usually much more appreciated than in other places, which is really cool in my opinion.


Thank you so much for your positive comments. We need more people like you on this blog.

Wish you and your wife a wonderful Carnival in Rio. You guys will find it absolutely thrilling, entertaining and educative.
Bobão…
written by ..., February 01, 2008
You are beyond moronic… into a whole new realm of idiocy.

Costinha
I survived Brazil...and got laid every night
written by GTY, February 01, 2008
Hey Matt,

Lose the attitude dude, what? your wife marry you for a greencard? Sound like a big pussy gringo to me. What a waste of a trip, did the big bugs scare you that bad? Oh and those mean Brazilians who kept speaking Portugues with you...your poor pathetic thing. I'll bet your wife was glad when you left and went back to your job at the mine and hooked up with her long lost Brazilian boyfriend. I love going down to Brazil, I can honestly say that Ipanema is the best square 6 miles on the face of the earth, if you can't have a good time there...well, your just a redneck gringo who would have been better off in Orlando asking Mickey to sign your wife beater t-shirt. Really, a word of advice my friend, once your wife gets her greencard you may want to change the attitude, if she is really Brazilian, a narrow minded gringo might be looking for a new one soon.
Read Where?
written by Simpleton, February 01, 2008
Not certain I can follow this "whole cultural aspect of Brazil" of which READ et al rave upon. Doubt that anyone who knows to "Travel somewhere you know you will enjoy" (even before having been there once or a dozen times before??) can advise precisely what written material should be consumed that would help someone "researching its ways of life first". Best advice, just go, stay out of the hotels, be "open minded", be prepared to have your own concept of what's important moment to moment, situation to situation totally blown apart especially time sensitivity issues. That and bring a bushel of cash as learning doesn't come cheap. You'll be the better for it if nothing more than the recognition long after the fact of how you managed to humiliate yourself (repeatedly) without even knowing it.
MKJ246
written by João da Silva, February 01, 2008
I'm having more fun reading these comments than I did writing this article!


You also proved that George Wallace was right when he said decades ago:

Wallace may have risen to power on the politics of racism, but some insist that he was not simply a racist. A black lawyer recalls, "Judge George Wallace was the most liberal judge that I had ever practiced law in front of. He was the first judge in Alabama to call me 'Mister' in a courtroom." Later, when a supporter asked why he started using racist messages, Wallace replied, "You know, I tried to talk about good roads and good schools and all these things that have been part of my career, and nobody listened. And then I began talking about n****rs, and they stomped the floor.


You did manage to cause a commotion in this blog smilies/wink.gif
João
written by The Guest, February 02, 2008
"Welcome back and happy 2008.It would be interesting to know more about your voyage. Did you spend your X-mas and New year on some port or on the high seas? Will you be visiting Brazil before your next trip?"

Happy New Year, sorry for not responding sooner. My last few days of work was very busy, preparing the vessel for its next voyage. My day started at 0630 and ended at 2300. After such a long day all I wanted to do was sleep. I got off of the vessel yesterday.

I spent Xmas off of the coast of Israel at anchor and the New Year at anchor in Augusta, Sicilia. Being at anchor in Sicilia then was a wonderful experience. At the dawn of the new year the fireworks began to go of on the land around us and for about a half hour the show was spectacular. There were about twenty ships at anchor in the harbour, and at midnight we all began blowing the ship's whistle as we enjoyed the fireworks. There was so much fireworks for 2008, I could imagine what it was like at the dawn of 2000.
The Guest
written by João da Silva, February 02, 2008
Thanks for the update. It must have been interesting to celebrate the New Year on board an anchored vessel and watching the fireworks .Away from the madding crowd on shore.

Look forward to your participation in the forums during your stay on the dry land!

Such a moron
written by Fabi, February 02, 2008
What in the hell this moron took his vacation? Our primary langague in Brazil is Portuguese. Your wife probably came from a very poor family in Brazil. Next time before you get there you should help your mother in law and put airconditionado in the house, the bugs scare you ha ha ha , you probably was in the jungle. I am brazilian we have house in Rio, Recife,Bahia,Belem,Italy, French. all ours house have arconditionados, my brothers are fluent in 4 languages each one, my nieces at this moment studied at Oxford in London. But if you visited a Country be adventuruos, anything can happend. Did you wipe your ass with drycorncob, buy repelents, everything you need for you kids, be a explorer. My Country is wonderful, but we laugh a lot's when we read a story about a moron gringo, with big sandals,white socks,kacki shorths with legs white as milk . Your left you wife in Brazil??? such moron again, she probably f**ck all her old boyfrieds and have a great time. Next time travel with money and estay in a *****hotel or please don't go. You can visit the skid row in Downtown Los Angeles, be very careful with humans feces in the streets or go to the neibgorhood, with is a control by gangs, even in your own country is very dangerous, go help the majority of drugs addicts, they get so boring, because they are very unhappy and start taking dope. I am brazilian, very happy, and loved my country. All my respect for the People who wento to Brasil and have a adventurous life and good times, you guys are always welcome. For that moron "Matt" stay here you f**ck OKi, red neck. I live in Brazil, but if I travel to USA, at least I can speak the language little bit. and others Italian, French, Spanish,Portuguese . smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif - How much you pay for your wife, because a s**t like you probably can't even get a obese pussy in your country ,so you have to buy a pussy, God know from where hahahahahah
João
written by The Guest, February 02, 2008
"Look forward to your participation in the forums during your stay on the dry land!"

I hope I will be able to participate. I no longer have a computer in Brazil and have no plans to replace it. Today, I will find out if I will be able to travel to Brazil. Right now the cost is almost prohibitive, over $1000.00.
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written by João da Silva, February 02, 2008
I am brazilian we have house in Rio, Recife,Bahia,Belem,Italy, French. all ours house have arconditionados, my brothers are fluent in 4 languages each one, my nieces at this moment studied at Oxford in London


You must be from the Brasilian nobility. Do you think you can take me as a butler in one of your mansions in France. I always wanted to attend Sorborne. BTW, where the heck is Oxford?
Never come here again, jerk!
written by Xotófago, February 02, 2008
Just stick to your stupid boring life in America. You must be just another one of those American sissies who spend their lives locked indoors afraid of anything that flies and can sting, believing that America is a paradise. Faggot!
The Guest
written by João da Silva, February 02, 2008
I hope I will be able to participate. I no longer have a computer in Brazil and have no plans to replace it. Today, I will find out if I will be able to travel to Brazil. Right now the cost is almost prohibitive, over $1000.00.


I remember why you threw away your PC in Rio. We have absolutely no problem with power outage nor voltage fluctuation in our state, thanks to our locally born Engineers and Technicians who are very good and know what they are doing. Even during the thunderstorm on Wednesday/Thursday, we did not have power outage, as our boys and gals were keeping a close watch on the weather and prevented it from happening.

I know that you are missing the good old days when you can fly Orlando-Rio-SP-Orlando for $550 through Transbrasil. I think it is going to take a long time before the fares come down again to this level.

As for your PC, I suggest you buy a Laptop (if you don't own one already) and bring to Brasil for your personal use. Not worth buying a PC here and living it at your home in Rio.
Oxford ???
written by Fabi, February 02, 2008
smilies/grin.gif You are a very ignorant moron University of Oxford, located in England in the city of Oxford, It is one the most pretigious and old University. Only very smart people studied there. Sorry but you cannot qualify. Just in America, did you studied history, did finish high school. About a position fo a buttler you have to speak few languages, be a gentleman,classy etc... sorry you cannot qualify. hahahahahaha
Fabi
written by João da Silva, February 02, 2008
Just in America, did you studied history, did finish high school.


Excuse me, Your Ladyship. I did not study history nor Geography or for that matter anything, except anatomy.

About a position fo a buttler you have to speak few languages, be a gentleman,classy etc.


I do qualify, because I speak several languages (body,eye,etcsmilies/wink.gif and I can be of extreme use to you.

Be a sport, Fabi, and come down from your high pedestal and relate with commoners like me smilies/wink.gif
João
written by The Guest, February 02, 2008
"I know that you are missing the good old days when you can fly Orlando-Rio-SP-Orlando for $550 through Transbrasil. I think it is going to take a long time before the fares come down again to this level."

Actually, after the demise of Transbrasil and Vasp I was still able to get good fares, as low as $485. The demise of Varig changed everything---less competition lead to higher prices. Last September I paid $822 via TAM, this time the cost is $916 via United---the lowest price I could find.

"As for your PC, I suggest you buy a Laptop (if you don't own one already)...."

I have one, but the gods are not with me. I recently broke its screen; thus, I am in the market for a new one.
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written by CT, February 02, 2008
Never come here again, jerk!
"written by Xotófago, 2008-02-02 15:00:26
Just stick to your stupid boring life in America. You must be just another one of those American sissies who spend their lives locked indoors afraid of anything that flies and can sting, believing that America is a paradise. Faggot!"

-Dear, AMERICA is PARADISE, your problem is that your jungle isn't as you would like to believe.
Once again a brazuca can't stand criticism, how sad-
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written by CT, February 02, 2008
Never come here again, jerk!
"written by Xotófago, 2008-02-02 15:00:26
Just stick to your stupid boring life in America. You must be just another one of those American sissies who spend their lives locked indoors afraid of anything that flies and can sting, believing that America is a paradise. Faggot!"

-Dear, AMERICA is PARADISE, your problem is that your jungle isn't as you would like to believe.
Boring life in America, hardly, that's why so many of your countrymewomen come here, hardky to be bored-
Once again a brazuca can't stand criticism, how sad-
fabi
written by CT, February 02, 2008
"Such a moron
written by Fabi, 2008-02-02 14:11:54
What in the hell this moron took his vacation? Our primary langague in Brazil is Portuguese. Your wife probably came from a very poor family in Brazil. Next time before you get there you should help your mother in law and put airconditionado in the house, the bugs scare you ha ha ha , you probably was in the jungle".

-Now, why should he give/buy his mother in law an air conditioner, since brazilians seem to do or believe that they fare better, let her buy it to please her guest, that's what true classy people would do, have bur nets ready, etc. Your guests comfort should be primary especially if they're married to their daughter & especially is she got a green card out of it, they should be kissing his feet; oh, but that's right, brazilians don't thank anyone for anything that is doen for them, so let live in their jungle that is sor ight ly deserved-

"I am brazilian we have house in Rio, Recife,Bahia,Belem,Italy, French. all our houses have ar condicionados, my brothers are fluent in 4 languages each one, my nieces at this moment studied at Oxford in London. But if you visited a Country be adventuruos, anything can happen. Did you wipe your ass with drycorncob, buy repelents, everything you need for you kids, be a explorer".

-since you & your family are doing so well, why don't you offer an air conditioner to her family or better yet, offer it to someone in one of your favelas,they needed much more than you i'm sure."

" My Country is wonderful, but we laugh alot when we read a story about a moron gringo, with big sandals,white socks,kacki shorts with legs white as milk . Your left you wife in Brazil??? such moron again, she probably f**ck all her old boyfrieds and have a great time. Next time travel with money and estay in a *****hotel or please don't go. You can visit the skid row in Downtown Los Angeles, be very careful with humans feces in the streets or go to the neibgorhood, with is a control by gangs, even in your own country is very dangerous, go help the majority of drugs addicts, they get so boring, because they are very unhappy and start taking dope. I am brazilian, very happy, and love my country. All my respect for the People who wento to Brasil and have a adventurous life and good times, you guys are always welcome. For that moron "Matt" stay here you f**ck OKi, red neck. I live in Brazil, but if I travel to USA, at least I can speak the language little bit. and others Italian, French, Spanish,Portuguese . - How much you pay for your wife, because a s**t like you probably can't even get a obese pussy in your country ,so you have to buy a pussy, God know from where hahahahahah"

-Since you have shown to be from such nobility & $, at the end of the day you have shown to be no different than the rest of your filth, you seem to know the drill well. But at the end of the day your women still prefer others than your own moronic/worthless men.
You laugh at the white silky skin, khaki shorts, etc.
At least we can wear khaki shorts & have silky skin, you should only be so lucky, or maybe you are depending on what ethnicity you choose to be part off.
You love your country, for what, what has your family done for he less fortunate, how many houses do you relaly need, you can only live in one @ the time, sell the rest & give the proceeds to the poor that needed,since your government does nothing for them, or yet give it to your druggies so that they may be happier, because in brazil everyone is happy when they have $".


Fabi
written by João da Silva, February 02, 2008
since you & your family are doing so well, why don't you offer an air conditioner to her family or better yet, offer it to someone in one of your favelas,they needed much more than you i'm sure."


A very good question CT asked. Any intelligent response we can expect from you?

-Since you have shown to be from such nobility & $, at the end of the day you have shown to be no different than the rest of your filth, you seem to know the drill well. But at the end of the day your women still prefer others than your own moronic/worthless men.


Now, you have a chance to defend the Brasilian Nobility. After all, your nieces are getting educated in Oxford and they must be friends of queen Liz who would no doubt pass on her know how as how to treat her humble subjects.

BTW, I hope your Portuguese (and that of your Oxford trained relatives of yours) is better than your English, though you claim to know 4 languages.

Fabi, I think that you are a "Mulher mal comida". You have something to say about this?

With all my luv
Funny!
written by Shawn..., February 02, 2008
lol. That was a very funny article Matt, I enjoyed it a lot. I wish I could inject humor into my writing like you. Anyways ignore the bad commenter's. For every humorless ass that cant take a joke, there are 100 other people here that can. smilies/cheesy.gif

Keep up the good work.
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written by Ana P., February 03, 2008
You don't need airconditioning to enjoy Brasil neither to be happy there. Poor people in Brazil are happy, one good example is Carnaval. I just have Brazilian TV installed because I changed my Tv company and I am watching two Samba Queens on the Caldeirao do Huck that live in very tiny little houses in the periferia, one of them don't even have a bed because her room is so small just a roll up matress and she said she is very happy. Her family is poor but with dignity which I have encountered in my life, CT. Of course, there are dishonest poor people as well as the rich but most of Brazilian that are poor are poor with dignity and a lot of pride on the little things their have and very hardworking.
Ct, why exactly should his mother inlaw be kissing his feet? He married her by his choice I would assume out of love. Does a American mother inlaw have to be kissing her son inlaw feets as well for marrying her daughter or is just the Brazilians? Are we less human that don't deserve an American to marry us? Are you guys so superior that we should thank you for speaking with with us, marrying, being our friends?
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written by bo, February 03, 2008
Your left you wife in Brazil??? such moron again, she probably f**ck all her old boyfrieds and have a great time.



Now there's a brazilian speaking of the behavior of other brazilians.


What's that tell you about the integrity of the people?



And people wonder why this country is so f**ked up!


For someone to have such "wealth" and "education" in their family wtf happened to her? You write english worse than my 5 1/2 year old.
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written by Ana P., February 03, 2008
Speaking your language does not translate in being educated, bo if it is that way you are stupid because you can't speak and write Portuguese perfectly. Americans like you Bo tend to think if you don't speak English you are stupid. You can go to France or Italy and they do not speak English and will simple ignore you when spoken to in English. I doubt your 5 1/2 year old kid speak any English at all because she is being raised in Brazil around Brazilians speaking Portuguese, my son is the same age and does not speak Portuguese because he is being raised around English speaking people with the only contact with a Portuguese speaker being me, the same goes with you.
I think I know why you have such of hate towards Brazilians and Brazil, Bo. It is because you felt in love with a beautifu girl and she dumped you. That's why you always bashing Brazilians and saying we have no integrity and such. You have "dor de cotovelo" and you tend to generalize a whole country because of one person because you are so angry. There are stupid and dishonest people in every part of the world and in all social classes, Bo. My hubby is a good example, he is American but he respect other people's culture, he is well traveled and there are more Americans just like him. If I judge the whole country as being ignorant I wouldn't have marry him or give him the opportunity to show me differently, I would not give him the time of the day and would miss such of wonderful person just because of stupid stereotypes. You are missing so much, Bo because of yours, chances of meeting wonderful people because you don't give them the chance, because you judge them prior even meeting them. Enjoy life, Bo, enjoy people. Life is so short for being caught up with "preconceito". Just look at Carnaval now, go out, brinque como crianca, esqueca tudo, esqueca o que voce faz, a sua cor, raca ou religiao.
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written by Gringo, February 03, 2008
Person of no importance:
Your left you wife in Brazil??? such moron again, she probably f**ck all her old boyfrieds and have a great time.


Bo:
What's that tell you about the integrity of the people?


WHACK! Nice one! You know, people go at lengths to bury stereotypes, and other, more simpler minds , only unwittingly reinforce them with their stupidity.
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written by Gringo, February 03, 2008
xcuse me, Your Ladyship. I did not study history nor Geography or for that matter anything, except anatomy.


Fabi, to question Joaos intellectual prowess is an exercise in futility. He's the brightest poster on this board, although he plays this down. I'd not lock horns with him, for you'll find yourself academically bloodied and bruised in short order.
Joao, e a pe de feijao
written by Gringo, February 03, 2008
I remember why you threw away your PC in Rio. We have absolutely no problem with power outage nor voltage fluctuation in our state, thanks to our locally born Engineers and Technicians who are very good and know what they are doing. Even during the thunderstorm on Wednesday/Thursday, we did not have power outage, as our boys and gals were keeping a close watch on the weather and prevented it from happening.


Are you provoking me? smilies/wink.gif

We were out all day during that torrential. I contemplated building an ark on Thursday, but I couldn’t get my power saw to work because of our wee apagao. We were also out all Saturday night because one of the island’s brightest decided to save on brake fluid and use a “poste de luz” to stop his car. Maybe we don’t live as close as I had imagined? If we do, you need to tell me about his special magical place where the engineers have a complete and utter handle on the energy situation. Or did I miss your sarcasm? Serio, estamos sem luz aqui pelo menos uma vez por mes. Sem exagero!
Misunderstood, Misjudged, Misinformed and or Misguided?
written by Simpleton, February 03, 2008
Bo, when read very carefully by someone with a bit of experience, your response, mostly to Fabi, is very clear and very accurate. I don't want to take sides here but you have pointed out that Fabi has, to an extent, put forth a valid point that would be missed by most.
Conversely:
MkJ leaving his wife behind does not mean he is / was stupid nor that she will in fact go f' all her old boyfriends and have a great time. Though processwise you are probably more on track than "a&p'' gives you credit for. Everyone thought my wife must be crazy or stupid to allow for her husband to go on holiday alone in brasil. Even the americano spouse of one member of a family we have grown close to said she couldn't believe this situation, couldn't imagine herself allowing that, would be too worried that to allow such a thing or do such a thing might risk too great a chance of causing permanent damage to the spousal relationship. I would assume from that that she understood her Brazuca's mentality, mores and morals much more clearly than my negligible exposure and knowledge would facilitate. How was it that even as a gringa, she would project such concerns on someone from a quite different background and culture than her brasileiro husband's and, to a lesser extent, differntent form her own? How dare she form "preconceito" in regards to me and mine? Maybe had the tables been turned nearly 180, that it was a brasileiro visiting the states on holiday without his wife and he and a gringo husband within the family were having such conversa', things would have been different??

Sem luz Sem problema em Parati
written by Simpleton, February 03, 2008
d "Your comment is too short"?
Decode - 2nd prior post title
written by Simpleton, February 03, 2008
You are either 4M or you are / em.
Thanks
written by mkj246, February 03, 2008
I'd just like to thank the commenters on this thread who see this article for what it is - a satirical description of one gringo's trip to Brazil.

I'd especially like to thank João da Silva, who's witty, intelligent responses add a welcomed antidote to the bitter babblings of so many commenters here.

For the rest of you, I'd suggest taking some reading comprehension courses, at the very least, for it appears you have read far too deeply into the intent of this piece. You may also want to consider counseling - you've got issues.
AnaP
written by CT, February 03, 2008
"written by Ana P., 2008-02-03 14:38:09
You don't need airconditioning to enjoy Brasil neither to be happy there. Poor people in Brazil are happy, one good example is Carnaval. I just have Brazilian TV installed because I changed my Tv company and I am watching two Samba Queens on the Caldeirao do Huck that live in very tiny little houses in the periferia, one of them don't even have a bed because her room is so small just a roll up matress and she said she is very happy. Her family is poor but with dignity which I have encountered in my life, CT".

-Now i never ai dto be happpy people need their a/c, but it helps. And what choice do poor have other than tosay that they're happy, they don't know the other side to speak of, you have. Obviouslky youy had to come ot he great ole U.S.A to fear better, if you & yours were so happy why didn't you stay there with your dignity & happiness as you claim. You needed to come here & find a gringo w/ some $ or better job so that you can go back & flunted. I'm sure you woul've done just as good with a dignified brazilian men? There are so many of them lazying around, you shoul've picked one-

"Of course, there are dishonest poor people as well as the rich but most of Brazilian that are poor are poor with dignity and a lot of pride on the little things their have and very hardworking.
Ct, why exactly should his mother inlaw be kissing his feet? He married her by his choice I would assume out of love. Does a American mother inlaw have to be kissing her son inlaw feets as well for marrying her daughter or is just the Brazilians? Are we less human that don't deserve an American to marry us? Are you guys so superior that we should thank you for speaking with with us, marrying, being our friends"?

-Because he gave her a green card, if brazilians as you claim are dignified, hard workers, the least they could do is make their guests comfortable, don'you think?
And yes at the end of the day they should be glad that a gringo married their daughter as oppose to a brazuca- Out of love he married her? i'll buy into that but her out of love,t eh only love brazilians have to is the "light at the end of the tunnel" first & foremost just like you. I know the drill inside out just like BO, so stop making excuses, which we all know are a bunch of bull-
-On another note, isn't funny from the poorest to the weathiest brazuca's onthis forum at the end of the day you all sound the same, criticize brazil or brazilians & all of you come out of the wood work. no difference at all. Now for a country full of moronic ignorant idiots as i call them, that spend their time throwing pot shots at those that don't even need your for squat, you have alot of nerve talking about any slight criticism that you know to be an absolute truth.
One word that describes/definesbrazuca's=DENIAL-
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written by Ana P., February 03, 2008
I didn't meet my husband in the US, I didn't want to come here at all but my husband's job brought him back and as his wife I had to go with him. In Brazil we have a saying that after you get marry you need to follow your family. I already spoke English and would be easier for me to adapt than my husband to find a job without speaking Portuguese.
His mother inlaw is poor I assume and have limited means and I bet she offered him what she had and share their house with him. She does need to kiss his feet for marrying her daughter because they got married because they wanted to and her daughter is not a unwanted product just because she is Brazilian. People in Brazili marry other Brazilians everyday, poor people marry everyday, it just happen that she felt in love with him despite the fact of his country of origin. You dont choose who you love.
I cannot wait to go back home to live, I miss Brasil dearly and I am very much out of my element here but you have to make sacrifices for your family like the author should have done. It is his wife and family and he should try to make the best of it while in Brazil even if some things bugged him. A lot of things bother me in the USA especially some of the people, I have ran into a lot of idiots in the US that have no regard for others people's cultures and are full of stereotypes but I just brush it off.
I would have marry a Brazilian because I was in love with one, he was my first boyfriend and he was dirt poor like me and I would marry him and not care what he had but it didn't work out, he cheated on me. When my husband came along, we hit it off, I would never imagine marrying someone with such of difference in culture and age but after a few months I knew he was the one. A lot of Brazilians are raised in a "fairy tale" culture, we are still being thaught the the prince will come and most do not see marriage as a business. You can see that on the divorce numbers in Brazil compared to the US.
I am not in denial about my country, I have been in both in the US and Brazil, both dirt poor and now I am middle class. My husband work hard and I do too, we are not rich but we have acomplished a lot with hard work. I know you can be happy in both situations because happiness depend on who you are have around not what you have. It come from within. I was happy being poor and lived some very amazing moments. Only thing I would not stand is the bashing of Brazilians that I know are trying hard to survive and working hard and just because some bad apples, they are being called dishonest. Bad people are every wear, nationality does not automatic makes you good or bad, you don't choose the country you are born in or social class but you can choose the person you are going to be.
Gringo
written by João da Silva, February 03, 2008
Are you provoking me?


Yes, I am. Some of these lads (Now retired) were trained by professors of U of Waterloo!

We were out all day during that torrential. I contemplated building an ark on Thursday, but I couldn’t get my power saw to work because of our wee apagao.


You first tell me the name of the bairro you live and then I will be very happy to reveal my secret hideout. Are you really on the Island ? You should demand a meeting with one of the directors of CELESC and complain.
Ana P
written by CT, February 03, 2008
"written by Ana P., 2008-02-03 21:03:40
She does need to kiss his feet for marrying her daughter because they got married because they wanted to and her daughter is not a unwanted product just because she is Brazilian. People in Brazili marry other Brazilians everyday, poor people marry everyday, it just happen that she felt in love with him despite the fact of his country of origin. You dont choose who you love".

-That's because when people have no choice,they have to marry what comes along-

"I would have marry a Brazilian because I was in love with one, he was my first boyfriend and he was dirt poor like me and I would marry him and not care what he had but it didn't work out, he cheated on me".

-And what else is knew, that's a common occurrence on daily basis, everyone is rolling in the hay, so why should that be news to you m does "ista grossa" apply here-

" When my husband came along, we hit it off, I would never imagine marrying someone with such of difference in culture and age but after a few months I knew he was the one. A lot of Brazilians are raised in a "fairy tale" culture, we are still being thaught the the prince will come and most do not see marriage as a business. You can see that on the divorce numbers in Brazil compared to the US".

-Obviosuly your knight in shining armor appeared & i'm sure you did not hesitate for a moment to grab the opportunity-

"I am not in denial about my country, I have been in both in the US and Brazil, both dirt poor and now I am middle class".

-"both dirt poor" what delusional state of mind do you live on-

" My husband work hard and I do too, we are not rich but we have acomplished a lot with hard work. I know you can be happy in both situations because happiness depend on who you are have around not what you have. It come from within. I was happy being poor and lived some very amazing moments. Only thing I would not stand is the bashing of Brazilians that I know are trying hard to survive and working hard and just because some bad apples, they are being called dishonest. Bad people are every wear, nationality does not automatic makes you good or bad, you don't choose the country you are born in or social class but you can choose the person you are going to be".

-yes at the end of the day we all make choices, youmade yours among many that you coul've chosen, but you chose the one that would get you the farthest fastest, people with integrity, character, morals, etc. would not necessarily choose the profession you chose, even if your status was "illegal" there are still many other choices you coul've made & yes at the end of the day we choose who we are, but the majority of your country men/women all seem to be the same up or down, stop talking about bashing when you & your country men/women are #1's at doing so & then you say you won't stand for it, what a laugh, are you &your country men above criticism.
In my opinion noone deserves more criticism that your country, it's politicians & it's people, they deserve the country they have at the end of the day.
as i have said b4, i believe in god & this is a christian country & that's why we ar successful & you're country is not, unlike those that believe in false prophets, there you have your answer, get my point-
MKJ246
written by João da Silva, February 03, 2008
I'd especially like to thank João da Silva, who's witty, intelligent responses add a welcomed antidote to the bitter babblings of so many commenters here.


Thanks to you too Matt for writing a hilarious article. I wonder what the reaction would have been, if you had written a positive article about Brazil . Your wife, Mom-in-law and your brother-in-law Fernando must be having a big laugh ( I really don't think that Fernando lost his car keys). That was a good yarn though.

For the rest of you, I'd suggest taking some reading comprehension courses, at the very least, for it appears you have read far too deeply into the intent of this piece. You may also want to consider counseling - you've got issues.


A very good advice and I am sure that our friendly Canadian neighbor and fellow blogger will agree with me.

You just keep on writing your witty articles . We don't mind and the others don't matter.
Paul Oliphant
written by A Brazilian, February 04, 2008
All cultures are different.


Filthiness is filthiness everywhere. Your comment not only didn't work for explaining the intentions of the author, but also gave the impression that filthiness is "cultural" and Brazil's culture is filthy. I say "filthy" because a house that has frogs in the bathroom is either located in a rural area or is filthy.

I have no comments about the article, because compared to the majority of the (hate) messages we see here it is very light.
Joao
written by A Brazilian, February 04, 2008
Wish you and your wife a wonderful Carnival in Rio. You guys will find it absolutely thrilling, entertaining and educative.


How could it possibly be educative? Carnaval is the eternization of stereotypes for a bunch of low self-esteem Brazilians. If there's one thing that irritates me the most is a Brazilian that is satisfied in being some sort of comical relief for those foreigners who are too busy making money and wish to forget about all problems in some "paradisiacal" and "exotic" place for a week. What do we gain with it? Can you build engines with it?

Carnaval is trash. Culturally null. A magnet for overweight foreigners trying to get laid and nothing more.

And then you agree with CT! The guy is a lunatic that was humiliated in the other thread and suffers from very low self-esteem. He is so desperatly trying to prove he is better than anybody else that is kind of comical.
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written by CT, February 04, 2008
"Joao
written by A Brazilian, 2008-02-04 08:26:58
then you agree with CT! The guy is a lunatic that was humiliated in the other thread and suffers from very low self-esteem. He is so desperatly trying to prove he is better than anybody else that is kind of comical".

-I was humiliated on another thread? are you referring to -Ricardao Maleducadao- I would hardly call it a humiliation, i didn't feel humniliated at all, on the contrary i hunmiliated ricardao & proved of how class less he is althiugh he & you seem to think that you're better, not me, i just call them a i see them, you're the one always trying to negate what is brazil & brazilians, because i & others speak the truth & you take it as me tryng to be better than others so be it, I have sid b4 & i say it again Low self esteem does not apply to me dear, hardly as much as you would like to believe.
That is an illness that you & yours suffer from since the beginning-
It's True
written by MKJ246, February 04, 2008
I really don't think that Fernando lost his car keys


He really did lose his keys, just as I described! The events I wrote about in this article are all true, believe it or not. That's one of the reasons I wrote this, for as these little things unfolded, I kept telling myself "I've got to write this down!". The only thing that is fictional is I really don't work in a mine, and, of course, the dog didn't win at rock, paper and scissors. I actually won, but her passport didn't get processed in time. smilies/cheesy.gif

In regards to "filth", my in-law's house is very clean, including the beach house. Frogs in the shower are common in the rural areas, and they are welcome, as the lizards are, because they eat those pesky mosquitoes. It's just that you don't want one jumping on your butt if you are sitting on the thrown - that's a bit unnerving.
It's True
written by MKJ246, February 04, 2008
I really don't think that Fernando lost his car keys


My brother-in-law really did lose his car keys, just in the way I described. All the events in this article are true. As they happened, I kept telling myself "this is too funny - I've got to write this down!". The only non-truth is that I really don't work in a mine. That, and the dog didn't win at rock, paper and scissors. I actually won, but her passport didn't get processed in time. smilies/grin.gif

In regard to the frogs in the bathroom, cleanliness has nothing to do with it. My in-law's homes are very clean, and frogs are common in rural areas. They, along with the lizards, are quite welcome, since they eat those pesky mosquitoes. However, it can be a bit unnerving if one jumps on your bum while you're sitting on the thrown.
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written by Ana P., February 04, 2008
Neither does being a Brazil, MKJ246. There are frogs everywhere in the world. I just moved to a small city in Minnesota and many of my husband's coworkers live in the rural areas and there are animals there too. They are no complaining. I am from the rural area and my family house is very clean but a simple country house. Sometimes we have huge snakes coming in the house especially during the Summer as well as bats at night and even birds that get into the house if the door is open. We handle it and go on with our lives. There is no reason for you to call it a tropical hell because it is not, maybe you miss all the comfort and luxuries that you have in the States but you could make the best of your time there and enjoyed yourself. Forget about the AC and the frogs, I would assume you are a grown up and can't be scared of such of little tiny animals. My stepson swims with frogs in the bath tub by the way smilies/cheesy.gif. he picked them up and bring them in and swims with them.
A brazilian
written by CT, February 04, 2008
On another note A brazilain, i think the only one that to date seems to feel humiliated is you, you still to this day have not answered-Gringo's- question as to who those "some" are, so care to finish the topic right here & now.
And at the end of the day what you & any of your filth thinks is irrelevant to me & others onthis forum.
You see i don't have to prove myself to you or others, but you eem to with all your writings, this is not a brazilian university thesis / dissertation which in the end means nothing to the rest of the world othr than in brazil to sell ice cream t the beach.
I'm sure that if you & costinha met you would get along perfectly well.
A Brazilian
written by João da Silva, February 04, 2008
How could it possibly be educative?


I used the term "educative" to flush you out to get your comments and thanks!

Carnaval is trash. Culturally null. A magnet for overweight foreigners trying to get laid and nothing more.


That is because it lost its original meaning to it.I see nothing wrong in holding a party on the streets where the nobles and serfs can mingle and have a good time.As for overweight foreigners to get laid? That is because the media (and the government) started promoting it for this purpose. Very similar thing is happening to OKTOBERFEST also. Until a few years ago, I used to receive some friends from overseas and they participated in the Carnival on the streets and enjoyed it (without getting laid!)

What do we gain with it? Can you build engines with it?


We who are not in the tourism or Carnival business do not gain anything out of it, I agree. But as long as the Tax payers´s money is not involved in funding it nor the laws volated, I guess it is alright. You don't have to depend on Carnival to build engines. We have qualified engineers and technicians to do it.

And then you agree with CT!


Nope.Just see whom my comment was addressed to. That commentator had no business to call everyone "Moron", "poor" and list the real estate properties her family has all over the world or tell us all how many family members are studying in Oxford. Who cares? I wanted to ask her some questions and CT posted a couple that made my typing easier and I merely did a copy/paste operation smilies/wink.gif
MKJ246
written by João da Silva, February 04, 2008
The only non-truth is that I really don't work in a mine.


It didn't take long to figure out that you don't work in a mine,but OWN a couple of Uranium mines in Kazhakistan.

I actually won, but her passport didn't get processed in time.


You may eventually get a passport for her, but we will ensure that an entry visa is not granted. Who wants a loser dog that might get intimidated by our giant lizards, frogs and other nice stuff we have and bark continuously demanding to go "home" smilies/wink.gif
João
written by MKJ246, February 04, 2008
It didn't take long to figure out that you don't work in a mine, but OWN a couple of Uranium mines in Kazhakistan.


Darn it! My secrets out. Now everyone on this thread is going to want one!

You may eventually get a passport for her, but we will ensure that an entry visa is not granted. Who wants a loser dog that might get intimidated by our giant lizards, frogs and other nice stuff we have and bark continuously demanding to go "home"


Giant lizards? I didn't see any giant lizards! I was robbed!
MKJ246
written by João da Silva, February 04, 2008
I was robbed!


Another misfortune that befell (?) you, while visiting this "Tropical Hell" of ours. Well done for ya.What the heck, you can write the loss off in your corporate account!

Matt, there is a mortal (but hilarious) debate going on between two Titans in another thread (the one above your article). Your compatriot seems to be cornered. Do you think you can rescue him? Though I am sure you wouldn't like to, you might want to do it to save the honor of America smilies/wink.gif
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written by jon, February 04, 2008
Lets change the subject..anyone travelled to Finland??
Jon
written by João da Silva, February 04, 2008
Lets change the subject..anyone travelled to Finland??


Not me, though I would love to. Why this question?
May be common enough in some locales
written by Simpleton, February 05, 2008
Except years ago while integrating a Red Barron recce pod to an F-16 in Texass, the only Filanderer's I've encountered seemed to be regular jonses in Rio.
Simpleton
written by João da Silva, February 05, 2008
the only Filanderer's I've encountered seemed to be regular jonses in Rio


Are all the Finns in Rio Filanderers? smilies/wink.gif
João
written by MKJ246, February 05, 2008
Your compatriot seems to be cornered. Do you think you can rescue him? Though I am sure you wouldn't like to, you might want to do it to save the honor of America


Excuse me? What was it that made you think I'm anything like my "compatriot" in that other thread, if you are referring to GTY? Do you think all Americans think that way?? Remember, Bush didn't win the popular vote in the first election, so at least half of America has some common sense (I'm a Democrat and never fell for the whole "terrorism" thing). We're not all bad, you know, and certainly don't all think that way. If you were referring to Gringo, he's doing fine on his own.

The best way to save the honor of America is to have more educated, well-spoken people like Gringo and less like GTY in this country. It will take decades to clean up the damage of the Bush debacle, but there will always be meatheads around, as there are in EVERY country.
next time take a vacation in new york...
written by Tortuga, February 05, 2008
Yes, just a vacation. After all you wouldn't enjoy having to leave a three month security deposit plus one month rent plus 15% of the first year of rent just to be able to occupy a US$ 6,500 a month apartment with no natural light at all...because search as you may you couldn't find anything better. Worse : people use the narrou street in downtown Manhattan as a toilet. No it never gets cleaned..Sanitation never shows up. And don't try to ride the 4 or five trains in the morning: you'd get tired waiting for them and then squeezing in for a very uncomfortable ride. And do not even think of renting a house in the Cattskils because racoons might get into your roof space and you'd have a hard time getting rid od them...
So you see, there is no perfect place...or perfect people but being happy anywhere is a question of choice (maybe that doesn't apply to Irak I admit...)
Yours sincerely,
Tortuga
PS: make no mistake: I love NYC
Great travel writer
written by Jose in Japan, February 05, 2008
Hi, Matt,
Your article was reposted in Portuguese/English yahoo group, with a link to this site.
You should be making a living as travel writer, adding a bit of fiction.
I'm Brazilian and live in Japan. My daughter from a Japanese mother is now 17. On our last trip to Brazil, when she was only 3 1/2, there was something funny about the language. Though English was the supposed to be the "home language", till then I had made a point of speaking to my daughter in Portuguese, but naturally she'd always talk back in Japanese. In Brazil, while playing with the other kids, she could understand what they were saying and would babble away in Japanese assuming they could understand her just like Dad did.
Enjoy your next visit. (By the way, your article was posted on December 20, which was my birthday.
Jose
Unclear on the concept
written by mbryan, February 05, 2008
The article was actually funny, and showed your obvious inability to adapt to a foreign envionment. I've been married to a wonderful lady from Sao Paulo for 12 years, have 2 daughters with Brazilian passports, and lived there for 3 years. When I first arrived, it was a cultural shock but I adapted, something you seem to be unable to accomplish. Learn the language, accept the culture and you'll have a marvrlous time. I've benn back in San Francisco for almost a month after spending Xmas & New Years with my family in ao Paulo and the beach and I want to return already. The only reason I'm back in San Francisco is they don't pay Computer Professionals very well in Sampa, so I earn it here and spend it there.
Take the time to learn Portuguese( I used to be fluent in German and learned Portuguese on my own), so you can speak it with your children, we speak both languages at home and I have 2 girls 8 & 2 yrs old.
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written by João da Silva, February 05, 2008
What was it that made you think I'm anything like my "compatriot" in that other thread, if you are referring to GTY?


I was indeed referring to GTY who is a very controversial (and extremely humorous and obnoxious) blogger.

The best way to save the honor of America is to have more educated, well-spoken people like Gringo and less like GTY in this country.


Unfortunately "El Gringo" is not an American and I don't see anything wrong with GTY . The good news is that I have persuaded GTY to surrender unconditionally and he has agreed to do so(under duress) and he will be spending the rest of his life in our prisons. No worries there.

It will take decades to clean up the damage of the Bush debacle, but there will always be meatheads around, as there are in EVERY country.


It would be interesting to hear your views on this issue more, now that it is an election year in U.S. I am following it closely too. Who do you think is going to be nominated, Hilary or Obama?

João
written by MKJ246, February 05, 2008
Unfortunately "El Gringo" is not an American and I don't see anything wrong with GTY


That makes sense, based on Gringo's intelligent responses. I'm not a big GTY fan, based on his comments posted here, but I guess I shouldn't judge, like 95% if the commenters here have judged me.

It would be interesting to hear your views on this issue more, now that it is an election year in U.S. I am following it closely too. Who do you think is going to be nominated, Hilary or Obama?


Based on Obama's recent momentum, I think he will most likely get nominated. I tend to side with Hillary, although it's not because I don't like Obama. It's refreshing to not have to choose between candidates with picking the lesser of two evils for once. I spent most of my life in NY state, and if Hillary can do for the US what she did for NY, she will make a great president. Even her opponents in NY don't have much bad to say about her.

However, there are a lot of people, like my "compatriot", that simple choose to hate Hillary for no good reason, which might spoil her chances. Regardless of who wins, though, it's going to be a tough battle against the Rove machine. They will exploit all they can about a female or a black candidate. I'm pleased that McCain is in the lead, though, for the Republican race, for I think he is lesser of the evils there.
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written by João da Silva, February 05, 2008
The only reason I'm back in San Francisco is they don't pay Computer Professionals very well in Sampa,


Too bad that they don't pay very well for the Computer Professionals in Sampa. During your next visit, you should try to organize an Union of such professionals and lead a protest march on Ave.Paulista. It is a better business.
mbryan
written by MKJ246, February 05, 2008
The article was actually funny, and showed your obvious inability to adapt to a foreign envionment


I'm glad you found this funny. That was the point. Unfortunately, I gave the impression that I can't stand Brazil and that I can't adopt to foreign culture. Nothing could be further from the truth. I traveled to Europe three times this year. I've also been to Shanghai, China and enjoyed it very much. This was my fourth trip to Brazil. What is very difficult, and many didn't get this part, is to be in a fun place like Brazil with a 2-year-old and a 4-year-old. I love my kids, but it's hard to have fun when you're tyring to keep little kids from getting hurt and destroying your inlaw's property. THAT'S why I wanted to get out of there and get home.
Forget all the above
written by ..., February 05, 2008
Sunday night, we roasted a nice gringa on the grill. With BBQ sauce and all, not bad!

Shelly, stay home in VA. Too many nice chicks down here during Carnaval. The only use I would have for you is to take the trash out!

Costinha
Costinha
written by MKJ246, February 05, 2008
Who the hell is Shelly, anyway?

Did you serve up that gringa medium or well done? It probably took awhile to get the pink out, eh"
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written by Simpleton, February 05, 2008
"I don't see anything wrong with GTY." - Joao, clearly you are playing the semantics / word meaning game again.

GTY's not such a bad sort for the Latin Stud that he is. It's just that hate traveling so far to have a chance to spend quality time with his wife and vovo while he's let out and about town in Ipanema.

Jose de Japao - glad you found us and welcome aboardo. Pay no attention to the tit of tat and foul language of some of the educated regular imposters you may find herein. Know well the feeling of being able to understand very well what is being said but not bring oneself to speak the local language - working on that. Interesting that the Japao connected Portugues/English yahoo group had this article back in December, what an advanced society - you are lucky.

mbyran - "and I want to return already" - don't worry, you are not alone - hope you don't get incapacitated with saudade's. We try to manange two to three trips per year. The problem with traveling with destructive little ones changes somewhat as they get older. One of our teenagers has had a chance to see the real brasil and is giving mom and dad a bit of grief about leaving him behind on some trips because he needs not to miss school.
Shelly? Ahhh… Don’t mind her!
written by ..., February 05, 2008
She is just an old witch without the broom, and plenty fugly.

Now the gringa(s) was another matter. A group of Californian girls looking for a good time. So we did it until the sun came up. Now 4 out of the five want to move to Brasil permanently. They all signed up for Portela next year.

Viva a Portela e o Flamengo!

Costa
Jose - Simpleton
written by MKJ246, February 06, 2008
Thanks for your kind comments, Jose. I'm glad you enjoyed this article. I plan on writing another one eventually about my previous trips that are more positive. I also have a fiction piece planned.

By the way, your article was posted on December 20, which was my birthday


The article here was not posted on December 20th - that is the day I returned from Brazil (noted at the very beginning of the article). This article was posted here on January 28th.

Simpleton:
Interesting that the Japao connected Portuguese/English yahoo group had this article back in December, what an advanced society - you are lucky


This article is not in this Yahoo group. Jose mentioned it was just referenced there, not posted there.

Best of both worlds
written by Dominick, February 06, 2008
How about traveling to your favorite place in Brazil for a month or so each year and then head back to USA or wherever your from to stock up on money, Nike sneakers, new ipod, laptop, and almost everything else you need so you can have the best of both worlds. I'm in Cold CT USA where the weather doesn't matter since everyone cares only about making money. I just want the weather of Brazil and the idea I could live in a beachfront property for the price of a garage in CT. Places like Salvador have so much heart and soul, while my town's motto is "the city that works" (Stamford CT)
dominick
written by CarlosD, February 06, 2008
I agree with you about CT. I live in Greenwich, and all they care about is making money. People need to live a little more.
Come on down
written by Simpleton, February 06, 2008
Dominick and CarlosD. After a bit of experience what you may find is to heck with all that working and money making thing. If you do it right (and can stand not to have that beach front property, air conditioning, etc.,) you find it's possible to not make money or work and be very happy. Many people be doing that there (but not necessarily out of choice).
Ahh, my ears where burning
written by GTY, February 07, 2008
I see my honor has been challenged on this string and didn't even know it. Your right though Joao, I really am not a bad fellow and your still Gilligan trying to kiss everyones ass, you must have a very soft middle. I just don't fall into the left wing clap trap so many of you bloggers and now posters carp about on this website. While you folks like Gringo live in crap holes and want to imagine their NeverNever Land, I live in the real world a like it very much thank you. The goal in life is to win...always. And while Mr. Miner MKJ whines about his time in Brazil; I will continue to love it; knowing my way around Sao Paulo and Rio and several other great places in Brazil makes Brazil a tropical paradise not hell. With a fat wallet there is no place like it in the world, getting laid is easy and the party never stops. I have many, many, Brazilian friends and no one calls me the "ugly Gringo" in fact my friends call me an "Amerioca"...get it?

Now MKJ of course is one of our Gringo liberals looking for the perfect socialist society; and who better to bring it but the most liberal Senator in the US Senate, Mr Barack Obama...who by the way, I admire very much, but could never vote for. It is funny that someone can rail against so called climate change; yet work in a mine; the filthisist industry there is; does that not seem a bit hipocritical? The reason he votes Democrat is because like the rest of the United Mine Workers of America; he is a lemming and is easily lead around by his nose. He proves it in the pathetic article he wrote; pussy whipped and scared, he ran back to the mines as quick as he could, while his wife enjoyed God only knows what without him in Brazil.

Now let me tell you the real deal on the election. Both McCain and Clinton will get their respective nominations. The party base; made up of old school conservatives like many of my brown brothers and me who came here leagally have a plan (and we all hate the great moron Bush). There is no way in hell we can support a liberal like McCain; he would destroy our country, much less our party. So what we will do is vote for Clinton, yes, that's right, we real Republicans will vote for the person we hate the most. Why? Well, if we have to elect a liberal, it might as well be their liberal. Now nothing will get the Republican base fired up again like 2 years of the Clinton's, two years to try and raise taxes, try for single payer healthcare, troops still in Iraq and an economy that is going to be pretty bad for a while thinks to idiot Bush. In the mid-terms, she is so bad we take back both the Senate (most important) and the House with conservative represenatives; trust me, after two years of Hillary, the Republicans and lots of Democrats will have had enough, we stand a good chance. Then we find an honest, hard working, articulate candidate to take back the White House in 2012...it simple, but brillant and its already gaining steam with the media calling us "Suicide Voting Republicans...no s**t, I'm voting for Hillary. Abracos meu amigo.
Gilligan
written by GTY, February 07, 2008
"The only reason I'm back in San Francisco is they don't pay Computer Professionals very well in Sampa,"

As you may remember I packed up the old pick up and moved out to the Bay Area; of course my beautiful, young, brown Carioca wife imediatly located the local Brasileros; its amazing, you guys must come born with imbedded micro chips to find each other. I met the first Brazilian, Oscar, he was the Director of the Futsal League my son plays in; I asked him in my perfect Portuguese, eat your heart out MJK, (learned from my beautiful Portuguese teacher Lucy in Rio) if he knew of any other Brazilians, which of course got us an invite for his usual weekend party.

The difference between the Brazilians in CA and those in S Florida was striking. In Florida our Brazilian friends were...well...Brazilian. The Brazilians here were all working at Adobe, Yahoo and Goggle, they all owner Beamers and Mercedes and expensive homes in San Jose, Danville and Fremont, I was impressed. While the Brazilians in Florida spoke of going home one day to Brazil and missing it very much, the Brazilians here spot only crap about Brazil and what a s**thole it was, they are totally Gringoized. As you can imagine, I miss Florida very much, especially those beautiful brown asses of my wifes friends hanging around our pool everyday, we can't even use our pool here, its to friggin cold.

"Thanks for your kind comments, Jose. I'm glad you enjoyed this article. I plan on writing another one eventually about my previous trips that are more positive. I also have a fiction piece planned. "

Oh, I can't wait to read your next one MJ; maybe you can call it "My Boring f**king Life in a Cold Grey Mine" I'll be looking for it at Borders.




GTY
written by Gringo, February 07, 2008
As you may remember I packed up the old pick up and moved out to the Bay Area; of course my beautiful, young, brown Carioca wife immediately located the local Brasileros


Hey Pinocchio is back from his trip already. So why didn’t you pack up the Hummer when you moved to the Bay Area? Why an old pick-up Mr Money bags? And if you are in the Bay area why did you say you were at FLL airport the day before waiting for a flight out? Why not SFO, OAK or SJC? smilies/grin.gifsmilies/grin.gifsmilies/grin.gifsmilies/grin.gifsmilies/grin.gif

As you can imagine, I miss Florida very much

But in your other post you said you were just there:
We actually have a hotspot here in the FLL airport
smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif Isn´t Fort Lauderdale in Florida? smilies/cheesy.gif

Oh, ya it is MR. MAKE-BELIEVE. smilies/shocked.gif Well, I hope your make-believe flight had a nice make-believe dinner for you and a nice make-believe wine to wash it all down. Which make believe country are you in now?

Oh ya, if you do really have a Brazilian wife, I am SURE the first thing she did when you moved to your make believe new home was locate BrasileirOs smilies/grin.gifsmilies/grin.gifsmilies/grin.gif CLASSIC!smilies/grin.gifsmilies/grin.gifsmilies/grin.gif

I wonder if the good folks at Pfizer and Sanofi -- anticipating your arrival in Sampa next week -- will read your sage-like observations on Brazilian culture posted here? I’m sure they would love to do business with an American that believes and publicly writes:

Brazilian women need brown men, they grow weary of pale gringos...but the good news is they don't expect much from them either Viva La Raza, Viva the good old USA. Where else can a browm man have a white man cutting his lawn, cleabing his toilets and washing his cars?!!


Or is your trip to Sao Paulo just another make-believe moment in your pathetic delusional life? smilies/grin.gif
GTY
written by MKJ246, February 07, 2008
Do you really think I work in a mine? You really are stupid.
LOL
written by GTY, February 07, 2008
"Hey Pinocchio is back from his trip already. So why didn’t you pack up the Hummer when you moved to the Bay Area? Why an old pick-up Mr Money bags? And if you are in the Bay area why did you say you were at FLL airport the day before waiting for a flight out? Why not SFO, OAK or SJC? "

Gringo, you are one dumb rock, but I have to admit, you do give me a good chuckle when I read your leftist dribble! Also the dribble of your butt Buddy Joao, my little buddy Gilligan. There was a guy on the blog last year when used to check in and then got bored, called himself the Professor, he and Joao had a homosexual relationship too. Of course "my pick up is a figure of speech", but I did get rid of the hummer, moved to an Escalade when I came out west, didn't want to copy Arnold, the liberal governer...my move was a corporate one, complete with moving company; corporate apartment, real estate assistance and a double digit moving allowance. See, we live in much different worlds Dingo, your is just scraping by, hoping for charity and living payceck to paycheck, mine is expoliting the poor, although it does suck that my taxes will go up when Clinton is elected, as I am in the top one percent. Giving me a tax break was about the only thing Bush did right.

Oh, here in the US we have the ability to travel wireless; you may not have heard, but you can take your laptop and Blackberry with you. And find me a direct flight to Puerto Rico from OAK, SFO or San Jose dumbass, of course FLL was a conection.

Oh, I'll be in Sao Paulo with the corporate card on Wednesday next week alright, you can believe it or not, it makes me no never mind I might even get on the blog to see what other load of crap you are dishing out, but I'll probbaly be too busy seeing the "sites" with my Brazilian clients who will piss on themselves to hang out with me. Flash a little big Pharma cash in Brazil and everyone wants to be your friend and give you their business.

Oh, and you can be sure I have a wonderful Brazilian wife, she friggen idolizes me...I am sure yours would too!

Hey MJ
written by GTY, February 07, 2008
You write this article about your petrified lily white ass in Brazil, crap your pants while you wait for your Brazilian security to return with the car keys and sit on a Brazilian beach and read a frigging book...and you call me stupid. Stupid guys like me make a very good living taking advantage of the "smart" guys like you. Now go cash your welfare check. I can't wait to see your next article, but perhaps you should use a ghost writter, some one with a female name.
MKJ246...
written by ..., February 07, 2008
Even if you are a peckerwwod, I still like you. Now then, be carful with your chosen nick "MKJ 24 6."

The number 24 has a special meaning in Brasil, just ask your wife!

Costinha
GTY is simply a lying troll
written by Gringo, February 07, 2008
Gringo, you are one dumb rock, but I have to admit, you do give me a good chuckle when I read your leftist dribble!


You had a chuckle catching which flight in which make-believe part of the world? smilies/grin.gif I take it you’re in PR now? Suuuuurrreeee you are. smilies/grin.gif

And what leftist dribble would that be? I bet you can’t even define liberal. Be my guest and take a stab at it. Then tell me how I’m a “leftist”?

The rest of your rant is typically delusional. You have major issues. With every keystroke registered, your ignorance, instability and irrationality are digitally immortalized. You’re a bigot, a retarded partisan hack (which is why the Conservatives are in such trouble the world over) homophonic, a misogynist and a liar to top it off. You’re just a pathetic excuse for human trash (you’ve not done American or the Latin world much justice in shedding stereotypes) if in fact anything you said is ever remotely true. I doubt it.

I guess your using your wireless blackberry in Puerto Rico right now? You’ve managed to jet across the US, make connections and end up in P.R while keeping glued to this site? I’m glad we´ve had such a magnetic effect on such a big global "playa"! smilies/grin.gif

I’ve come to the conclusion that you’re simply a sick troll and should be ignored accordingly.
Simpleton
written by CarlosD, February 07, 2008
I was down there for a few years, but the problem was that I was having too much fun. It's really hard to get motivated down there. Maybe I'll end up back there in a few years, but need to have some money saved up first.
GTY
written by MKJ246, February 07, 2008
If you're such a partying, testosterone-spewing, money-earning machine you say you are, why do you spend so much time writing comments on this site? I agree with Gringo - you're obviously full of s**t. If it were true, you wouldn't be typing away here trying to convince everyone how cool you are. You're probably seem 300 lbs. loser in Wisconsin who lives in his mother's basement.
and don't forget..
written by ..., February 07, 2008
the semen soiled socks in that basement!

I am now typing this note from Hong Kong. Tomight I wll be in Moscow. Tommorrow morning I am heading to Fiji. But then, I have to be in South Africa by evening before embarking to Loas Angeles in the morning. Following that, I meet my wife in Paris via Rome before returning to Rio.

Hehehe

Costa
What's this??
written by JohnQ, February 07, 2008
I just came back from my first trip to Brazil and had a great time, I Goggled up this website; thought the tongue in check article was well done...and then looked at the thread. What kind of drugs are you all taking here?

MKJ is a "peckerwood"
GTY is a "testosterone-spewing money machine"
Gringo is "one dumb rock"

Very enlightening, I have learned so much more about Brazil, thanks, now get a life all of you.
Costa
written by MKJ246, February 07, 2008
You crack me up. Maybe you'll run across GTY in your global ping-pong travels! smilies/cheesy.gif
JohnQ
written by MKJ246, February 07, 2008
You are right. This mud slinging is rather sophmoric, but it's kinda funny, too, especially that Costa dude. He should go on Letterman.
GTY
written by João da Silva, February 07, 2008
I see my honor has been challenged on this string and didn't even know it.


Nobody challenged your honor, because you have none.

Your right though Joao, I really am not a bad fellow and your still Gilligan trying to kiss everyones ass, you must have a very soft middle.


Because of this nasty statement you made against my noble (as well as humble)self, I am withdrawing my support to your dishonorable self.

I met the first Brazilian, Oscar, he was the Director of the Futsal League my son plays in; I asked him in my perfect Portuguese,


When did you learn Portuguese? Oscar was kissing your arse and you fell for it. You dumbass.

There was a guy on the blog last year when used to check in and then got bored, called himself the Professor, he and Joao had a homosexual relationship too.


You have something against gays, GTY? You disappoint me again.

Brazilian. The Brazilians here were all working at Adobe, Yahoo and Goggle, they all owner Beamers and Mercedes and expensive homes in San Jose, Danville and Fremont, I was impressed. While the Brazilians in Florida spoke of going home one day to Brazil and missing it very much, the Brazilians here spot only crap about Brazil and what a s**thole it was, they are totally Gringoized.


Great to know how wealthy the Brazilians are in your area.You should ask your beautiful and brown Carioca wife to work as a "faxineira" for them to bring extra income to your household (or your Mom-in-law).I am sure that the ghost of the Admiral father-in-law would fully approve this brilliant move of yours. Be a Macho, GTY and don't let two old bags to tell you what to do.

BTW, you still flying in your personal B747 jet or taking a commercial airliner during your business trips?
Now I see…
written by ..., February 07, 2008
GTY stands for Great Traveler Yankee, that’s it!

GTY, I will be in Tokyo next week for a high level meeting with the Japanese Prime-Minister. I thought maybe we could meet afterwards for some rice wine.

It will be a good time to bash Gringo between tanuki slammers and sushi enchiladas baked over some momiji oroshi sauce.

What do you say?

Costinha

PS. I am so glad I finally met a wordly person
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written by GTY, February 07, 2008
God you guys crack me up, I really do love it!

Gringo; when it comes to dumbs**ts you are the Rock Star. Its hilarious that you would carp about when and how much time I spend on this blog when the first time in the last 7 months that I have logged on was Monday, while you spend all day, everyday 24-7 wacking Joao off on this blog, Joao who has been wasting away here for about 100 years, thats the simple truth and you can't deny it, what pathetic lives you must really have to live in such a small world, it figures that you are a chickens**t, loser Canuck to boot. And the other poster is right; the only thing BC ever produced that was worth a s**t was Joe Sackic.

I got so bored with all of you last time, I almost forgot how fun it is to f**k with all of you. After an enjoyable long break from travel, I am now back at it. Business travel is very tedious, not that you Gringo's working the graveyard shift at Tim Hortons, or all you Brazilians selling coconuts on the beach would know, so I checked in again because I was bored and to kill some time. But unlike all of you that are hooked on each others bulls**t, I will not be hear long, so you can continue to whack each other off until I check back again one day. I'm sure that it is the only nut any of you are getting.

There are sheep and there are wolves; the wolves cut the weak sheep from the pack, kill and eat them. I have been feeding on the likes of you for a very long time, and like the wolf I have no remorse, the end begets the means. I can tell that you Mr Canuck would be the easiest meal of all; if I wanted to, I would have your money, property and your wife before you could realize what happened. You are the biggest loser of them all, probably still living in your moms hut in frozen BC, waiting for your next government check. Again, you dream to be me; no one would want to be you.

And Joao; to answer your question, I have nothing against Gay men. I am glad that you all have made strides towards equal rights and I support your right to marry, I can only hope you and your partner the Gringo are very happy together, you seem so happy here on this blog, licking each others arses; I am sure the Professor and Forest would be jealous if they ever return. But alas, they were both pretty squared away folks and they got bored here as well. Ciao!

GTY for s**ts and giggles
written by Gringo, February 08, 2008
Cut the crap already, we’ve caught you in your lies. Like your “Hummer”. In a post just 4 days ago your write:

I still smile when I fill up the Hummer, American is wonderful.


And the next day you write:

but I did get rid of the hummer, moved to an Escalade when I came out west,


Did you sell the Hummer and buy the Escalade while sitting at an airport in Florida, on connection to Puerto Rico, while you were writing how much you miss Florida? smilies/grin.gif

You see you are so full of s**t that the stench overpowers every post your write. You’re not even a very good liar. In order to lie, you need to keep track of your fabrications – Christ, even a used car salesman knows this, and you want us to believe you SELL for “Big Pharma”? smilies/grin.gif Or is “Big Pharama” the new euphemism your friends are using these days when dealing drugs on street corners?

So now you are in Puerto Rico Right? Well then, why doesn’t the FEEDJIT tool on this website not recognize any traffic coming from that Island? Or do you have a secret wireless decrypter in your laptop to protect Big pharma secrets, and it cloaks your location? smilies/grin.gif

It’s obvious to all you’re delusional, and although I would say its fun watching you twist and turn in your stinky little labyrinth of lies, it’s actually quite sad to see there a folks so mentally challenged these days that their only joy in life is creating a persona they are not on-line. How horrible it must be to hate your own life so much, that you need reaffirmation as someone else? Christ, couldn’t you have invented something even a little more interesting that a pill-pusher?

It could be worse I guess, you could have been pretending to be a little girl. Maybe somewhere you are?

As we’ve said again and again, don’t let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. Enjoy Bangkok, or Sydney or whatever other little make-believe place your Prozac starved mind has created.

Again, you’re a troll and no longer worth responding too.
Out of topic(sudden death in my family)
written by Ana P., February 08, 2008
I know you guys don't know me personally, just by posts and pictures. My husband Steve just passed away yesterday leaving me and our 5 year old son behind. I haven't worked for quite a while and we just moved to MN. I have a lot of things to settle including his cremation, now I am waiting for the results of the autopsy also legal issues such of life insurance, social security, etc. If anyone have advice I highly appreciate. Please pray for me and my son and Steve's family to help us cope with this difficult moment that caught all of us by surprise.
After, I take care of everything. I plan to return to Brazil and I am looking to find out of any sites with Brazilian jobs. I speak near native English, know how to type and have basics computer skills. There is nothing left for me here because he is gone. I cannot find words to describe the loss of my best friend, loving father and amazing soul. He was full of life and love and I am sure upon on me and Dominique. If anyone wishes to contact me for any type of support, please e-mail at: \n This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it '> This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
I don't have any family in the US and they cannot come here because of Visas and such. His company is helping me with legal things and such but I am in need of emotional support even if it is just words. I have never lost anyone close to me and being a young person(24) alone with a small child is quite difficult, especially to thing he will grow up without his dad. I love Steve more than anything in this world and yesterday over his body I bagged for him to exchange places and take me instead.
God Bless you all!
Ana, I am really sorry to hear about your loss.
written by ..., February 08, 2008
Remember however, you have your son to take care of and provide for, because he needs his mom. You cannot falter as your mission continues. You husband did not die, he just went on to another level which we all shall come to terms with some day.

I know it seems easy for me to say, but have strength and during moments of lingering doubts, sink into your knees and ask the almighty for directions and it shall be given.
It’s been said before “it’s only from the valley that the mountain seems high.”

May you be blessed!

Sincerely,

Costinha
My Condolences
written by MKJ246, February 09, 2008
So sorry to hear about your loss Ana. What an awful thing to happen. Be strong and have faith, and all will be taken care of.
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written by tooliosilva, February 11, 2008
Before I throw my two cents' worth (or 3,4 centavo's worth) into the discussion about the article in question (notwithstanding the subsequent discussion of Ana's loss, which is a terrible thing and for which I am truly sorry), let me say that if nothing else the article was worth reading for this sentence alone:

"Except for the beaches and a few patches of jungle that haven't been mowed down by developers and ranchers, the entire country is covered in ceramic tile."

As I write this in my Brazilian office, the floor of which is completely ceramic, I can only chuckle. In fact every level of my house is ceramic, along with floor to ceiling coverage in every bathroom and generous ceramic coverage on the veranda. I have eschewed only the Brazilian tendency to cover the entire outside of my house in ceramic, which seems to have fallen out of favour here in Bahia lately.

Thanks to the author for this astute, and obviously tongue-in-cheek, observation.

As for whiners who have posted "only a gringo would write this kind of thing to insult our great country" comments, get over it. The article was obviously intended as humour. Of course, I have long since learned that my fellow Brasilians have absolutely no appreciation of humour when it comes from a foreigner. I have never, in a life of extensive travel and long periods of living outside Brasil, seen a country with such an inability to laugh at itself. And believe me, there is plenty to be laughed at here.

I am Brasilian. My relatives are obviously Brasilian. I live in Brasil. And I refuse to succumb to the petty intolerance that washes over Brasilians whenever anybody writes or says anything that smacks of criticism of this country. And that goes doubly for writing that is obviously intended as good-natured humour.

Of course, while living here I must continually put up with my fellow Brasilians denegrating other countries and their inhabitants. Portugual comes to mind. Oddly, Brasilians see nolthing wrong with their humour when it comes to derision of Portugal. What they don't realize is that few of their jokes are original--they's often the same jokes the English tell about the Irish the Irish tell about the English, the rest of Canada tells about residents of the province of Newfoundland, and Russians tell about Ukranians.

And, of course, there is the constant fear in Brasil that every gringo comment is really part of a secret U.S. plan to take over Brasil, or at the very least the Amazon.

Whiners, get over it. This was humour. And the article contained some memorable gems that should be cherished. If we spent as much time fixing what is wrong with this country as becoming irritated at those who good naturedly (or otherwise) poke fun at what needs fixing, Brasil would be a far better place.

Enough said. My fellow Brasilians need to develop a sense of humour about themselves.


tooliosilva
written by A Brazilian, February 11, 2008
Reading these comments is like believing Lula wants to end corruption. Brazil has issues. Matt's article illuminated a few of them. Don't attack the messenger, people.


This wasn't humor. They actually believe in those things. But this is kind of light if compared to the rest of this site.
The ability to laugh at ourselves!
written by ..., February 11, 2008
In principle, I totally agree with you. The ability to laugh at one’s self is to recognize mistakes of the past and thus, change the future. However, there is a fine line distinction between constructive and malignant criticism, not always apparent.

The problem with this site is the continuing bashing, disinformation and plain humiliation of any topic regarding Brasil. That’s the problem that myself and others have with this site. Hence, my cynicism with most on this site!

Moreover, let’s don’t patronize Brasilians alone as over zealous. Just go to any American chat room and criticize the US; rednecks will come out of the woodwork being patriotic beyond stupidity and will circumcise you.

Good day,

Costinha
tooliosilva - APPLAUSE APPLAUSE
written by Gringo, February 11, 2008
I like the cut of your jib!

That was an outstanding post! Long over due, and I’m glad it came from someone from Brazil. You sir, and gentlemen liken to our esteemed Joao Silva, are the reasons many of us “foreigners” do continue, at times against all odds, to have faith in this Nation’s future and plow forward with it. I’ll agree with Costa and Abe (although writing that gives me pause for thought) there are indeed your “Ch.c´s” about who do nothing but incite hatred and poke and prod solely with the purpose of generating a violent reaction. Some of his numbers are hard to debunk, but his mannerism is acidic and more often than not, simply childish.

I too can be caustic, but usually with certain personalities and not entire populations. I hope.

I think you’re spot on with your observations and I’d only add that Nationalist blowhards the world over are annoyingly thin-skinned (including many Canucks I know) and they are often those amongst us with the least to cling to. Their only sense of identity is their nation (or wealth as viewed by our make-believe GTY). How sad is that.

There is nothing wrong with being proud of one’s country and it is a duty to be critical at times ( a concept lost on many Americans these days, sadly), and best yet, if you can have some fun in the process, laugh and get your point across, better yet. But this “Love it or leave it”, “you’re with us or against us” mentality has to go. And I’ll take it on head to head whenever I see it rear its ugly head.
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written by Gringo, February 11, 2008
Just to finish -

Congradulations once again on a great post! I hope you stick around.
Come on now Gringão…
written by ..., February 11, 2008
“I too can be caustic, but usually with certain personalities and not entire populations. I hope.”


Admit it… You like me!

I just wish I could make Shelly like me 2, that freaking witch!

Costinha da Costa
Love for Brazil
written by Charles Scott, February 12, 2008
I really enjoyed your post. I am a 30 something African American who visited Salvador for a wedding in 2004. I really did not want to go, but was dragged to Brazil by a friend. After two weeks in Salvador. I returned a year later and stayed for Two months. Even though I struggle with the language, and I realise Brazil has serious social problems espescially where racism and poverty is concerened. I love Brazil immensely, and I miss it every time I leave. The people have a great sense of humor, and are so vibrant, and full of life. My suggestion is that when you visit, try to be daring, and go out on your own. Hook up with a good Taxi Driver, and all the pleasures of Brazil will be open for you.
Love for Brazil – Part 2
written by ..., February 12, 2008
My suggestion is simpler… Hook up with a good hooker, she will strip you, rape you, rob you and dump you, then all you have to do is walk naked back to Indiana!

Costinha
ToolioSilva
written by CT, February 12, 2008
I truly congratulate you on your comments, i would never thought that a brazilian would be capable of stating the truth in such an eloquent manner as you have. Kudos to you.
Now if only -Ricardao Maleducadao- & -A Brazilian- & Costinha learn something from your post it would be a start.
CT (caca total)
written by ..., February 13, 2008
Why don't you shrink your head and use it as a paperweight?

Costinha
Dear Senhor Matthew...
written by Macunaima, February 14, 2008
We have finally found someone who can tolerate your kidney.

Please come back.

Zé and I will be waiting for you at the airport with a rusty can opener and a beer cooler.

The procedure should only take a minute.
Dear God...
written by Thaddeus Blanchette, February 14, 2008
The overpowering monotony of daily child care forced me to find creative, entertaining activities to keep my sanity.


Wow!

A week spent taking care of your own kids, Mat! I gotta hand it to you, you're the man!

Good thing you married a poor Brazilian women so that you don't have to be bothered with the monotous details of childcare in your normal life, hey what, old sport?

Nice to see some traditional American family values expressed on this site.
Thaddeus Blanchette
written by João da Silva, February 17, 2008
Good thing you married a poor Brazilian women


Tadeo, you are forgetting your English grammar.This sentence should be "Good thing you married a poor Brazilian WOMAN" and NOT a poor Brazilian WOMEN.

Having corrected your English, I have another question for you:How do you know that Mrs.Johnson is a POOR Brazilian? I am afraid that you are assuming too many things.

BTW, do you have anything against Poor Brazilian ladies (or gentlemen)?
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written by Thaddeus Blanchette, February 20, 2008
João, I don't proof my posts to bulletin boards, so it seems to me that you're looking for nits to pick. Want that I should critique your often erratic spelling, punctuation and grammar, too? Wouldn't that be fun!?

You incorrectly used "this" instead of "that" in your summation of my error, forgot a space after you used a colon, started the phrase after said colon with a capital letter and finally capitalized "poor". A further nit (mas desde que estamos falando de preciosismos, pq não citar?) is that "by the way" should properly "btw" or - if you must insist on capitals - "BtW".

If you're gonna pick at someone's grammar, João, you'd better make sure you know what you're doing yourself, neh?

As for me, the only time I worry about people's grammar on the internet is when some hypocrite attacks it as a cheap way of avoiding the real issues at hand.

Now, to get on with your more pertinent stuff...

Your beef is properly with Mat and not me. His article makes it clear that he considers his Brazilian in-laws' dwelling and its surroundings to not be up to American standards. The "poverty" is implied in his descriptions and it is a relative term: relative to Mat's American expectations, of course.

As to why you'd think I have something against poor Brazilian women, I'm completely mystified. I've noticed that many Brazilians (and Americans too, for that matter) have trouble distinguishing sarcasm and irony and often take such statements at face value.

Is that the problem here, João...?
Thaddeus Blanchette
written by MKJ246, February 20, 2008
I agree with João. You make way too many assumptions. What leads you to believe I think my in-laws are poor? They own a ranch, a beach house, and a home in the city - far from poor. I never judged them for not having "American standards", whatever those are. Just because I don't enjoy the tropical heat in everyday situations says nothing of my opinion of other cultures. Many of the minor issues I joked about in this article have nothing to do with Brazil - they have to do with the weather. I'm not sure why you or anyone else would take offense to that, unless you control the weather somehow.

Also, taking care of toddlers all day long is monotonous - show me a parent who has never said or felt that, and I'll nominate them for political office. I think being honest is, or at least, should be, an American family value. I have a lot of respect for anyone who has the patience to deal with small children day in and day out.

Like so many other commenters on this thread, you have revealed your own ignorance and prejudice, the very things you berate me for.

Have a nice day.
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written by Thaddeus Blanchette, February 21, 2008
What leads you to believe I think my in-laws are poor?


Your description of their physical environment as being so much inferior to the one you're used to.

That's how you come across, whether it was your intention or not.

Also, taking care of toddlers all day long is monotonous - show me a parent who has never said or felt that, and I'll nominate them for political office. I think being honest is, or at least, should be, an American family value. I have a lot of respect for anyone who has the patience to deal with small children day in and day out.


Oh, I agree that it's monotonous, having done it myself many, many times, for pay and for love.

But let me hazard a guess here: in day-to-day life, this is more your wife's job and not yours. It happened, exceptionally, to be yours because you were on vacation.

Your comment on "respecting those who do it" seems to indicate that you don't situate yourself in that category.

And I'll cop to being just as ignorant and predjudiced as the next man, but if you think that my sarcastic comment regarding what appears to be your domestic arrangements has to do with "disrespecting" childcare workers... well, all I can say, Mattie, is that's a topsy-turvy that would do old Orwell proud.
A piece of luggage
written by SSamsonite, February 22, 2008
There is a word in Brazilian Portuguese that fits Matthew Johnson like a glove: “mala” (a piece of luggage). Technically, the “mala” is a pain in the ass. He/she is boring, fastidious, uninteresting, heavy (like a heavy piece of luggage), difficult to move from one place to another (like a heavy piece of luggage). One of the traits of this kind of person is his/her lack of appeal (sex appeal, intellectual appeal, you name it). His/her presence in a group is usually tolerated only because of the unfortunate situation of his/her being a friend or a relative of somebody who is a member of that group. Since he/she lacks wit and irony, his attempts at conversing with the people around usually drops off pretty quick, especially when the others are eager to have real fun and really enjoy each other`s company. The “mala” is an eternal intruder, and everybody around him/her has to exercise a great deal of patience towards him/her. Sometimes, people who have to cope with a “mala” are so desperate that they tend to do the weirdest things, like bringing unsolicited beers to him/her, in places and situations where no beer is supposed to be served. When the undesirable presence of a “mala” in a group is expected to last for long – like many days – the problem becomes almost impossible to handle.The true "mala" usually has no idea that he/she is considered to be so by the members of that group, but he/she senses that something is wrong with that people, no matter how nice they try to act. Then, the "mala" turns bitter and resentful against that people - a feeling that sometimes comes hand in hand with a bizarre superiority complex. When the "mala" finally gets rid of the uncomfortable situation he/she was in and manages to run away home, then he/she will begin to plan his/her big revenge. Sometimes, writing a story - like the one Matthew Johnson has graciously volunteered to - will do.
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written by Thaddeus Blanchette, February 22, 2008
Does posting the same post 4 times count for "malaness"?
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written by SSamsonite, February 23, 2008
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written by Thaddeus Blanchette, 2008-02-22 21:26:52

Does posting the same post 4 times count for "malaness"?
smilies/cheesy.gif Sorry about that. The computer didn't seem to be responding. I tried to post it four times before realising that all of them went through. Cheers.
SSamsonite
written by mkj246, March 01, 2008
Judging from your name and your extensive knowledge of the term "mala," it appears you just described yourself.
Funny Story
written by Peter Schoenster, March 10, 2008
Dude ... I got it, a funny story. It was entertaining.
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written by ezequiel, April 29, 2008
This post sounded a little bit arrogant, as I would expect. Next time be more careful in which country you'll take vacation

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written by ezequiel, April 29, 2008
you are so smart that your kidney would be discarded because of organ rejection
probably
Newlywed and First time to Brasil!!
written by Borboleta, May 09, 2008
Matt, you had a very funny story!
I am 21, American, and my husband is 21, Brazilian and from Juiz de Fora (about 2 hours north of Rio) in the state of Minas Gerais (sp?). I am TRYING to learn portuguese - I am mad to learn it! I think it is a BEAUTIFUL language. I have never been to Brasil and of course, I've had fears about going (at which my husband laughs at me for when I ask him things) but I am so very excited to visit!! We will meet his family and friends and visit Rio, Cabo Frio, Macae, Juiz de Fora, and then north to Belo Horizonte to see some mututal friends of ours. The only thing I worry about is knowing the language- does anyone know a GREAT way to learn portuguese fast? Are there any tips anyone could give a first timer? =P

Obrigada! beijooossss
Funny
written by Safiya, June 09, 2008
smilies/cheesy.gif This was a hilarious overview of your trip, and though I've yet to visit Brazil, I've been to enough bush places in third world countries to know exactly what you're talking about...lol. The bug the size of Rhode Island would've made me faint! I freak out when I see palmetto bugs much less any flying creature 3 times the size of that.
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written by Rafael Castilho, June 09, 2008
Hey MKJ246, very funny your trip, i cannot remember the last time i had such a good laugh.
I hope you travel to Brazil again soon, as i will be looking forward to read the next chapter...
Advice for Borboleta on learning portuguese
written by Rafael Castilho, June 09, 2008
I like the english language a lot, but in my case it is only good enough for very basic communication, i am not a fluent speaker.
My advices are:
Try to learn at least 3 new words a day, everyday (don't rush) -
Practice with brazilians that do not speak english, so they will not try to translate and help all the time -
The grammar structure is very different... so don't be afraid to make mistakes, mispronounce or be misunderstood.
Take note of words you consider important and look them up on the dictionary later..
And, needless to say, get some private lessons from a professional, that will speed up things a lot (a teacher who does not speak english will be best!!) enjoy your trip and don't forget to write about it here afterwards... smilies/smiley.gif

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