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The Lula Factor: How Brazil's Former Metal Worker Became a Brilliant Strategist PDF Print E-mail
Written by Clara Angelica Porto   
Wednesday, 23 July 2008 03:10

Lula and Lady LibertyThe Financial Times did a six-page story on the development of Brazil, stating that the country may be reaching the level of the so-called superpowers. May reach, as they say, not quite there yet. They point out that the Brazilian society changes as the family income rises and the inequalities diminish, but they criticize Brazil's infrastructure system.

The socio-economic inequalities in Brazil still have a long way to go, and a good educational system will play a definitive role in the process of, if not eliminating, but minimizing the deep existing gap. Different articles discuss the impact of the economic stability in Brazil, the new oil fields and the development of Petrobras, the Amazon issue, and also the presidential elections.

The fact of the matter is there is a new Brazilian reality. With its ups and downs, Brazil has finally emerged and is starting to live up to its potentials. The Lula factor weighs a lot and this is a fact. The Brazilian president arose a lot of curiosity at first, with his past as a metal worker and unionist, his lack of formal education, his poor language skills and even lack of sophistication; then he attracted attention, as the world started to realize that there was something different about the man.

When Brazil started giving out signs of progress and development many reminded that President Lula had followed on the footsteps of former president Fernando Henrique Cardoso, who had started the changes. President Lula indeed did that. And it takes vision to keep and develop what is good and right for the country, even when and if comes from a political opponent.

Now the Brazilian president attracts respect - the former metal worker turned out to be a brilliant strategist with a great ability to move slowly and steadily in the pursuit of what he aims.

President Lula was criticized by many and was even condescended upon when he showed signs that he sought the position of the Latin America leader. While Venezuela's president Hugo Chavez went around bragging on his leadership and power, the Brazilian president went about his job of making the necessary moves to make Brazil grow.

Brazil has, in the last years, accomplished quite a bit. Even if part of it is due to the global economy, such as the growing demand for soy and sugarcane ethanol, no one can deny that the country was ready and prepared and the firm hands behind the wheel were no one else's but President Lula's.

The New York Times wrote that while Lula diversified the Brazilian industry and created a strong political coalition with almost a dozen of neighboring countries, Chavez' influence remains limited to a few poor nations of the region. The article goes on to admit that Venezuela has even become economically more dependent of Brazil.

The Brazilian president showed effective leadership. No bragging; just results. And it is not a mistake to say that now, President Lula da Silva, of Brazil, is in fact the strongest leader of Latin America.

In the middle of the ethanol discussions, President Lula is making the world news. Again. And to show how serious he is about this subject, he is inviting country leaders for an international conference about the Brazilian ethanol in November.

Recently Bird held studies that prove that ethanol made from corn and other seeds, as it is done in the US and by the EU, has caused an increase of 75% on food prices in the last six years. The results were first published by the British The Guardian and have been discussed by the press all over the world. The same study shows that production of sugarcane ethanol, a Brazilian technology, has not had a great impact.

Not only sugarcane does not mean to the world's food supply what corn does, but also a lot more is obtained from relatively small areas, not to mention the amount of land available for plantations in Brazil all year long.

During the first day of the G-8 meeting, the article was discussed in most of the seminars and presentations of NGOs present at the event, most probably because the studies destroys the American argument that the production of ethanol was responsible for only 3% of the increase in food prices.

Even though Robert Zoellick, Bird's president, did not confirm the existence of the study, he did say, during a press conference he participated along with UN's general secretary Ban Ki-moon, that ethanol made from corn and oleaginous have contributed to the rise in food prices and even suggested that the United States and European Union should invest more money to develop new energy sources that do not use grains that are used for food in a large scale.

He even asked the rich countries to start discussion aiming at ending the subsidies to this kind of ethanol, and to seek a reduction in fees that would allow the purchase of cleaner fuels. His words could very well be an exact quote from one of President Lula's speeches.

According to the Brazilian press, at some point Zoellick indeed quoted Lula, when he said the production of the second generation of fuels that use grains, which are not basic foods, should be stimulated. He also announced President's Lula's international conference, underlying this way its importance.

There is something in the air, and it's not a flying saucer. Why is it so hard for rich countries to end the production of fuels made of grains and oleaginous? How about their relationship with the oil industry and the agribusiness lobbies for an answer? And why is it so hard for the Brazilian sugarcane ethanol, which is not jeopardizing the production of food, to get the support it needs to become global?

How come taking away food and causing a global crisis is protected and the better way struggles and forces its way in? Could it be discrimination because the better way is coming from a Latin American country?

This is not an easy subject; it is not an easy discussion. Too many interests are involved in the matter and it is going to take time and sweat to turn things around. President Lula will be able to call his international conference a success if he can attract a couple of rich countries.

Judging by recent happenings, and the interest and investment shown by Germany and Holland, he can most probably count on their presence; also China and India might show. Undoubtedly small countries will be there, including most African countries, because a lot of them have an acute interest in this industry, which has a high potential of becoming crucial for their economy.

Clara Angelica Porto is a Brazilian bilingual journalist living in New York. She went to school in Brazil and at the University of Wisconsin in Madison. Clara is presently working as the English writer for The Brasilians, a monthly newspaper in Manhattan. Comments welcome at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it .

Comments (38)Add Comment
What the concept of a Real Powerful Symbol means to a 7 year old.
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 23, 2008
When I read the title of this article and saw the picture of Lula that was used to convey the message of the article – then I remember the story that a friend of mine told me last week.

He is in the process of moving with his family from the United States to Curitiba (state of Parana), and he has a seven year old son.

He had moved from California to Texas not long ago where he still living until he completes the transfer of his family to Brazil. His wife and son have been living in Brazil in the meantime as they find a place to live and so forth.

They love Brazil and he is glad to relocate to Curitiba which today is among the best places to live around the world.

Last week he had to go to Brazil to check the progress that had been made regarding establishing his new company and so forth.

Then he son told him something that is incredible coming out from the mind of a seven year old. He told his father Brazil is a great country and I love it and Brazil has to be a very good place since the symbol of Brazil it is a lot more powerful than the symbol of the United States; the US has the Statue of Liberty as its symbol, but Brazil has the big Statue of Jesus with open arms.

After he told me that story last week I was wondering how this 7 year-old kid had grasped that difference in symbols between these 2 countries. And from the perspective of this young kid he thought that Jesus was a more powerful symbol.

That was the first time that anyone had made such a comparison that I know of – what a perception and he is only 7 years old.

His father told me over the phone that he had been reading this forum for a while and that he likes the opportunity to meet Joao da Silva in person some day.

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If you want to devastate the foundations of the Brazilian economy then...
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 23, 2008
The above article said: “And why is it so hard for the Brazilian sugarcane ethanol, which is not jeopardizing the production of food, to get the support it needs to become global?”

The answer is: because that would be a major mistake and it would kill the advantage that Brazil has today regarding energy.

There are some Brazilians who don’t understand that ethanol from sugar cane is a solution for the Brazilian economy, but it is not a solution that can be exported around the world.

Today the Brazilian economy is being isolated from the exploding inflation attached to the increasing price of oil in world markets.

But if the Brazilian population wants exploding inflation also in Brazil then export as much ethanol you can to the rest of the world.

If anything the Brazilian government should place a tax on any export of ethanol to discourage the exportation of ethanol. And the tax should be always a little higher than the difference in price between oil and ethanol.

I don’t know why it is so hard for people to understand that if Brazil starts exporting most of its ethanol to the highest bidders from around the world that would push the price of energy higher inside Brazil creating inflation and causing all kinds of problems for the Brazilian economy.

If Brazilians want to choke to death the progress being made in Brazil then selling ethanol in world markets it is the way to do it.

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Big Jesus.....
written by bo, July 23, 2008
Yeah, the "big jesus" is looking down on all the killing by criminals and police alike, not to mention all the drug trafficking.

Ricardo......man, some of the things that you put in print make you look like the idiot you are.

Largest catholic population in the world. Legal prostitution, literally tens of millions of them, drugs abound, 2nd largest user on the planet. 55,000 people die from violence a year (5th highest worldwide proportionally), more than 40,000 a year die in car accidents and there's only 35 million autos and registered drivers, can't find an honest politician if your life depended on it.

Quite a statement for the catholic church.....don't ya think?
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written by written by, July 23, 2008
It was not too long ago that Lula was being hammered in the polls for one corruption scandal after another, mismanagement of aviation sector, etc. What short memories!

Crime is another factor that has not abated under his watch, costing Brazil a significant chunk of it's economic growth

"Lucky" Lula as many have called him has staked his legacy on the commodity boom and indeed Cardosa layed down the framework that the former card carrying socialist had no choice but to follow
WOW!!!
written by Hank, July 23, 2008

I have been following what is happening in Brazil and it is quite amazing. This very clarifying article shows Brazil's president role playing in all this and I have to agree. Thank you for this good analysis. It is inspiring and it got me even more curious about Brazil, a country I soon intend to visit.
Reply to Bo
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 23, 2008
I found interesting what my friend told me about his son - that was just the perspective from a 7 year old.

I am not religious myself and I believe on the separation of state and church.

But in the eyes of this 7 year old the Statue of Jesus and his open arms conveyed the message of something good.

Even though I am not religious I believe on the freedom of religion and people should have the right to follow any religion that they want.

The only time I go to church, any church is when someone is getting married and I am invited to attend their wedding, or someone that I know have died and I have to attend some religious service to pay my respects to the family of the dead person. Other than that I don't follow any religion.

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Ricardo
written by The Guest, July 23, 2008
"If anything the Brazilian government should place a tax on any export of ethanol to discourage the exportation of ethanol. And the tax should be always a little higher than the difference in price between oil and ethanol."

I did not comment on this issue in your last article because I was focus on education and it being apart of your plan.
I agree with your tax scheme above but only for export which would hinder Brazil from being self sufficient. For example, if Brazil's marketplace requires 5 billion barrels of ethanol per year and 8 billion barrels are being produced it would make no sense to have that 3 billion barrels in storage tanks just sitting around.
Actually such a policy could damage Brazil's ethanol industry because you are taking away an incentive for them to make more money, continue innovating, and producing more ethanol efficiently.
Home marketplace self sufficiency first before exportation, if the needs of the marketplace are not met then ramp up the taxes to stop exports.

By the way, I believe the same policy should apply to the oil industry also. Petrobras currently imports light crude oil which it mixes with the heavy crude produced in Brazil. Heavy crude oil exports should be limited to the amount of light crude oil imported. As the amount of light crude Brazil imports decrease due to an increase of light crude production in Brazil, exports of heavy crude should be decreased.
Any exports beyond that amount should be taxed to discourage exportation. That is until Brazil is at a point where exporting excess reserves will not hurt continual economic development. Here again the last statement under the paragraph about ethanol above applys.
lets put a picture of bush on jesus in rio
written by Forrest Allen Brown, July 23, 2008
and see how many brasilians call it a take over of brasil by the US.

LULA main stay is to dodge the truth , control the press and place blame else where

few people in brasil are better off than they were before he took office .

yea the box of food , and the lula houses that always seam to be just off a major road to remind the people of his grateness for them .

across the board food is up in price , fuel of all kinds ,up ,
land , taxes are up ,
but pay is still low

several compaines were started by people of other nations but had to pack up as the old tax man bribes , import export mafia got to them .

the way we can do it this way and not have to go through the courts then the gringo looses all in court and the brasilian keeps the money and starts looking for a new pigon
Reply to Forrest Allen Brown
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 23, 2008
No one on his right mind would place the picture of George W. Bush on the the State of Jesus in Rio or Jesus in any other place around the world.

But if someone has a Statue of the Devil - anywhere - then George W. Bush's picture will fit it perfectly - and people from around the world would agree with that one.
Blame the French
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 23, 2008
By the way, the United States symbol was given to the United States by the French over 100 years ago.

Americans had no choice other than get stuck with the French gift.

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Replt to Guest
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 23, 2008
Brazil is building new ethanol refineries to keep up with the demand inside Brazil – And Brazil will need all the ethanol that it produces to keep up with the demand that is increasing in Brazil when people buy new cars and replace the old cars that use gasoline.

It will take years for ethanol production to catch up with the demand for ethanol inside Brazil. Mainly now that people have reduced their use of gasoline on their cars and started using only ethanol as the price of oil skyrocketed around the world.

I am not suggesting that the Brazilian government create a new tax on ethanol for the ethanol used inside Brazil. I am suggesting that the government place a heavy tax only on ethanol for the export market. They have to block anyway they can the export of ethanol from Brazil to other countries around the world.

The more ethanol we have inside Brazil the better it is since that reduces the cost of energy inside the Brazilian economy, and gives Brazil an advantage in transportation costs. Not only that by having a cheaper fuel for your car the Brazilian population would have more money on their pockets that they can spend on other things creating demand for all kinds of goods inside Brazil.

But if you want to stop progress in Brazil then start selling as much ethanol as they can in the international market – maybe even creating a large shortage of ethanol inside Brazil.

Besides Brazilians always would have the option to go back to skyrocketing use of gasoline on their cars and that would help destroy the Brazilian economy – in this case few people make a lot of money at the expense of the entire Brazilian economy.

At least Brazilians are used with hyperinflation and they would enjoy a return to the old days when you had to run to the bank to get some overnight income because the value of the Brazilian money was disappearing by the second.

What the entire world needs is not ethanol to feed their car engines, but other foodstuffs that are becoming scarce around the world.

Basically it would be a crime to use the agriculture power of Brazil to feed car engines instead of feeding human beings.

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About Ethanol in Brazil.
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 23, 2008
There is a lot of information about the ethanol industry in Brazil on the following forum:

The Sustainable Development Forum 2007 - Ethanol and Biofuels.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/...adid=93388

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" While Venezuela's president Hugo Chavez went around bragging on his leadership and power, the Brazilian president went about his job of making the necessary moves to make Brazil grow."
written by ch.c., July 23, 2008
Somewhat funny....when Venezuela GREW TWICE AS MUCH AS....BRAZIL !!!!

And should one then say the RIC countries have been more brilliant than B..... ?????
Knowing ALL of them grew much more than Brazil.
Same for Argentina having had TWICE the Brazilian growth rate ??????

Ohhhhhh.....I bet than none of the junkies in this site, including the ignorant reporter, have noticed
that Uruguay.....yes U R U G U A Y......yesterday got a HIGHER investment grade than......B R A Z I L ???????

Come on....Come on....Come on......Brazilians should stop caressing their navel. You are drinking too much ethanol !
You no longer have the sense of reality and comparisons neither against your world peers or neighbours.

Even your exports growth rate is TINY...when compared with your peers, but a drop in the ocean when compared against developed countries using the per capita basis !!!!!

Laugh....laugh....laugh....laugh....laugh !!!
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written by .., July 23, 2008
Ohhhhhh.....I bet than none of the junkies in this site, including the ignorant reporter, have noticed
that Uruguay.....yes U R U G U A Y......yesterday got a HIGHER investment grade than......B R A Z I L ???????


I take umbrage for being called a "junkie" as I am aware that our Southern neighbor did get a good grade. Perhaps our noble colleague Augustus is also aware of this historical, but not widely known fact! smilies/grin.gif
Ch.c
written by João da Silva, July 23, 2008
Another article full of rich prose and with minimum substance. So you don't have to get too excited.

BUT.. BUT.. I liked the picture and I bet you did too smilies/wink.gif

Any comment on my comment?
RA
written by forrest allen brown, July 23, 2008
well he is your president if you live in the US and if you dont like it go back to brasil and live under brasilian politicans whom wont fight for any thing but money from there own people

like i have said before history will tell if bush did the right thing same as lula plan will show only after he has robed all he can

the US did not get stuck with the lady we wanted it as a simbol of our countries right
to let people have a better life by living free in a soicity of laws .
not the world or countries they lived in before .

not like you to live in the US and complain about it , GO to brasil and try to do it you would be in jail or put out of there misery .

by the way i have my people working on that pic as we speak i think bush would look good looking down on your best city
Forrest
written by João da Silva, July 23, 2008
by the way i have my people working on that pic as we speak


I can send my handsome pic to your people. Ch.c could do it too.

BUT, the pic of Lula looks very good, don't you think?
Is Shelly bending out of shape again?
written by ..., July 23, 2008
Shelly is having a “John Wayne” moment… and you better shut your mouth! Quit complaining and moaning from your home in Virginia or whatever the hell you live.

There are 8 million of us living in Rio. I take the subway every day to go to work, Monday thru Friday, never had a problem, neither hundreds of my acquaintances! You don’t live the reality of Rio, I do.

Spare me the image you like portrait as Misses Right, Save the World Citizen Cayne, you really are full of bulls.h.i.t. May your son be drafted to the war in Iraq and fight for freedom and George Bush. Shelly, you are an idiot!

Shall we mentioned your hubby?

Costinha
Reply to Ch.c
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, July 23, 2008
As usual you are making your silly comments about Brazil.

Ch.c said: “Even your exports growth rate is TINY...when compared with your peers, but a drop in the ocean when compared against developed countries using the per capita basis !!!!!”

I guess following your reasoning what is happening in China is also meaningless when using the per capita basis of analysis. Maybe what is going on in the Chinese economy is just an illusion according to your analysis.

A better comparison with Uruguay would be against a few boroughs of the city of Sao Paulo.

Argentina is doing well right now – at least on your analysis – because they started from a very low point just a few years ago when that country went in to bankruptcy.

Regarding Venezuela that country is a one commodity economy.



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Brazil


Area: total: 8,511,965 sq km

Population: 191,908,598 (July 2008 est.)

Labor Force: 99.47 million (2007 est.)

GDP (purchasing power parity): $1.836 trillion (2007 est.)


Economy overview:
Characterized by large and well-developed agricultural, mining, manufacturing, and service sectors, Brazil's economy outweighs that of all other South American countries and is expanding its presence in world markets.




Venezuela


Area: total: 912,050 sq km

Population: 26,414,815 (July 2008 est.)

Labor Force: 12.37 million (2007 est.)

GDP (purchasing power parity): $334.6 billion (2007 est.)


Economy overview:
Venezuela remains highly dependent on oil revenues, which account for roughly 90% of export earnings, more than 50% of the federal budget revenues, and around 30% of GDP. Embolden by his December 2006 reelection, President Hugo CHAVEZ in 2007 nationalized firms in the petroleum, communications, and electricity sectors, which reduced foreign influence in the economy.



Argentina:


Area: total: 2,766,890 sq km

Population: 40,677,348 (July 2008 est.)

Labor Force: 16.03 million

GDP (purchasing power parity): $523.7 billion (2007 est.)


Economy overview:
Argentina benefits from rich natural resources, a highly literate population, an export-oriented agricultural sector, and a diversified industrial base. Although one of the world's wealthiest countries 100 years ago, Argentina suffered during most of the 20th century from recurring economic crises, persistent fiscal and current account deficits, high inflation, mounting external debt, and capital flight. A severe depression, growing public and external indebtedness, and a bank run culminated in 2001 in the most serious economic, social, and political crisis in the country's turbulent history.



Uruguay


Area: total: 176,220 sq km

Population: 3,477,778 (July 2008 est.)

Labor Force: 1.587 million (2007 est.)

GDP (purchasing power parity): $37.19 billion (2007 est.)


Economy overview:
Uruguay's economy is characterized by an export-oriented agricultural sector, a well-educated work force, and high levels of social spending.

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Forrest
written by Shelly1, July 23, 2008
I have to agree with you, Lula bin Mula and his-"how many thieves Ch.C"? will continue to leave thousands of Brazilians in the dark ages. The fake Carioca Costinha, is the ONLY Carioca on this board who thinks Rio is something to be proud of. Its my place of birth, my parents still there and my father has been hijacked twice, my sister once. Wonderful place, to die in Rio is easy. What about the fake kidnapping phone call? Tell Costinha, when does a prisoner in the US has access to a cell phone? In Brazil, they run the show. Prison guards and prisoners dance cheeck-to-cheeck.

I tell foreigner to stay out of Rio and Sao Paulo. Go to Minas, Curitiba, RG, etc.

The economy is doing well, but how many Brazilians will benefit?
Soldiers of war-Child soldier in the drug wars
written by Shelly1, July 23, 2008
Costinha,

Hope you'll never have someone in your family hijacked or killed. Tell the parents of Joao that they will get justice! You are a joke!

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,469510,00.html
from the link
written by Shelly1, July 23, 2008
Brazil cannot go forward as a country by allowing children to be out of school, by allowing police officers to be on the job while receiving bribe from the drug dealears, it won't go forward when scandals such as the "mensalao" go unpunished.

Fabiana was expelled from school when she was 11. "I was too rebellious," she says. When the local head of Comando Vermelho offered her a job, she accepted. Her first job was to weigh and package cocaine into small envelopes, which are sold for the equivalent of two, four or eight euros. Her customers were workers from a nearby shipyard.

The gang leaders quickly recognized their young manager's commercial skills and gave her the job of keeping records of the bribes they paid to the police. She was soon in charge of buying drugs. At 14 Fabiana was earning the equivalent of €800 a month, a princely sum in the favelas. She bought a house and went shopping with her sister twice a week. She offered her parents money, but they refused. "My mother says there is blood on the bills," she says.

But Fabiana didn't care.

Naturally, she knew about the secret cemetery at the top of the hill, where drug dealers buried their victims. "Sometimes the bodies were exposed when it rained." Most of the dead were young girls. "Many of them would go to bed with the dealers for a pinch of cocaine," she says. "Later on they would have affairs with police officers and become traitors."
tO THE JUNKIE RICARDO !!!!
written by ch.c., July 23, 2008
Now you have the stats from the other Mercosur numbers.
If your basic education is good enough.....please come back with a GDP ....PER CAPITA......AND AN EXPORT ALSO PER CAPITA !!!!!!!!

Can you do this....for ALL of us ???? Laugh...laugh !!!!

I just underline you were quite precise to mention that the other countries were on a PPP adjusted...but obvioulsy failed to mention that Brazil is also on a PPP basis.


Brazil certainly dont shine that much !!!!!

Take the economic growth rate of the last few years...and Brazil AGAIN doesnt shine...against the other Mercosur members. Nor do you shine when compared with the other BRIC countries if you did not know.

Let me underline that to make it healthier comparatively, you are using
a PPP adjusted GDP.
Somewhat funny for Brazil......a country with car prices higher than in the EU for a similar model. Funny too, knowing that Brazil has the world HIGHEST prices for Ipods or Iphones just to name a few consumers goods !!!

Another Reality is that NONE of the countries you mentionned their GDP are actual numbers.
Reality being that Brazil for example has NOT a $ 1,8 trillion economy as you stated but only around $ 1,2 trillion in ACTUAL GDP !!!!!
Or around $ 6'500.- PER CAPITA !!!!!
Wether you like it or not....wont change anything !!!!

On the exports side I can only repeat that on a per capita basis...
Brazil stands at around $ 1'000.- which is LOWER than Argentina, Venezuela and many others emerging nations such as Thailand to name just one !

Same for GDP PPP per capita.

Same for average economic growth rate of the last 5 years !!!

You only shine somewhat due to your total population..... but rarely on a PER CAPITA BASIS....wether you like or not.

Same for China and India....by the way !!!!!

COSTA
written by Forrest Allen Brown, July 24, 2008
like fish there is safty in numbers , do you do you ride the pink train in .

last time you were at the beaches in rio ???? near or after dark ??

US does not have draft , our people are proud of what they are doing or they would not be there and go for a second time .

BUT are not happy with the press , and congress that goes by there every word even they are looking to sell a empty box just to get ratings on the TV .
unlike brasil where the press cant say what ever they want and even if it is the truth nothing is done to the wrong doer ,

send them off to jail and when the press go away they are let out the back door , or given phones , buy there cells from the jailers put in AC , TV , women , drugs , there own cooks , and go about there business as usal .

love the system of injustice in brasil ,
lock up a woman for taking butter ,
let lulas money man walk away with millions .
put girls in cells with men for weeks at a time .
let congress men and women steal any thing they want .
kill indains at will and take there land
blame it on to many gringoes owning land in the amazon .
brasilian kills some gringo they walk away
a brasilian dies in jail in the US he was killed by the jailers
a gringo on the beach in RIO gets robed calls the police they just smile at him and say brasil .
a gringo defends himself on the same beach the police are called gringo go to jail .

be prowd
costa
Shelly: The Pretentious “B..i..t..c..h..”
written by ..., July 24, 2008
Meet the lowest of the low: Michelle (aka Shelly), the bitter old witch that can't get laid, because her english gay husband suffers from erectile dysfunction.

Brasil may be right or wrong, but good conscience calls for protesting in the ballot box, not spewing your venom and slandering Brasil before all, on this board, rationalizing your act of treason as somehow an obligation to something higher than country.

Shelly… You are a fraud, a con artist, a hustler, a predictable opportunistic swindler appeasing your gringo hosts… When you raise a hand against your own, you remind me of Judas, selling out your own mother for the right price!

Your conjectures are inconceivable, malicious, you rape us and yet, you offer no solution. You deserve every ounce of shame and punishment that one can muster. Thank God you are inconsequential.

Costinha
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written by OBSERVER, July 24, 2008
COSTA

They got you by your saggy, hairless balls smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif
costinha
written by Forrest Allen Brown, July 24, 2008
did you just learn to copy and paste ???????????????

you need to come up with something different to keep us

reading your SPAM

unlike you joao and brasilian do come here to see what others think
and talk it out not show just how stupid 79 % of all brasilians are

to much lula news on golbal i think .
or are you on the pipe

c**kersucketinha
written by Shelly1, July 27, 2008
Brasil may be right or wrong, but good conscience calls for protesting in the ballot box, not spewing your venom and slandering Brasil before all, on this board, rationalizing your act of treason as somehow an obligation to something higher than country.


Treason? Who are you to speak of treason? You are the biggest liar, you caress you navel believing that Rio is a state to be proud of. You are a conspirator, Ch.C retarded brother with an inferiority complex. Do me a favor, stop watching the novelas, they are brainwashing you!

Again, I am a mother and I cannot even conceive what Joao's parents are going through. You are a traitor, because you see what happens in Rio and you do nothing to help. At least my family has-and so have I, done more than you could imagine. Get off you nice couch and help others.
c**kerckertinha
written by Shelly1, July 27, 2008
appeasing your gringo hosts…


You bet I am. I am glad that I live in the US, where my family is VERY SAFE, MY KIDS can play outside and not worry about a stray bullet or hijacking.

I have things that I dislike about the US, but man there are many more that I like. I have a good job, security, my kids have an opportunity to attend some of the best universities in the world.

c**ksuckertinha, continue sipping your mushroom tea brought in a favela in Rio. Your paranoid delirium makes you believe that you live in Nirvana. Battle in Rio are not won in the ballot box, but in the streets of Rio, where bandidos and the police are the enemies of the state!

Brasil losing greatest asset - - - Freedom
written by Steve1, July 27, 2008
I fail to be impressed with Lula's constant desire to portray himself as a moralist especially to the UN. While it is true that Brasil's economic status has risen, this has more to do with increasing demands for raw goods in Asia and the incompetence and criminality of the current regime in Washington then it has to do with the 'Brilliant strategies' of Lula.

Here is what has happened in the last 8 years in Brasil that is indeed a pity;

Constant wiretapping increasing everyday. Witch hunting in the financial circles, bans on smoking, bans on drinking (albeit a logical law but a demonstration of the ends of freedom nonetheless) a hysterical witch hunt in the press driven by greedy NGO's, (Lula so badly wishes to be in the good graces of the UN)and now purseud by a Joe Macarthy type Senator from Acre acusing everyone of pedophelia coupling with a complete end of privacy. To this end the media resembles more as a Philipino rag sheets everyday. In addition to everything else. Lula wishes for thousands of prisons, something which has not worked in the US (unless one is from one of the private corporations that run them).

Yes Brasil did not have the economic prowess before that it has now. But it had a far superior quality of life without all of the above. I hope that the country of the festa will not be replaced by imposed moralism.
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written by .., July 27, 2008
, bans on smoking, bans on drinking (albeit a logical law but a demonstration of the ends of freedom nonetheless)


totally unacceptable to the Brazilian society, considering that the "headman" under reference practices these two delightful activities.

To this end the media resembles more as a Philipino rag sheets everyday.


The media always resembled the Philipino rags sheets and only now, the commentator discovered it.

Yes Brasil did not have the economic prowess before that it has now.


Are you sure? Prove it.

But it had a far superior quality of life without all of the above.


Somewhat right. At least we did not have to put up with expensive McDonald fast food.

I hope that the country of the festa will not be replaced by imposed moralism.


I am afraid that your hopes are going to be shattered.
Shelly… The Opportunistic Maggot.
written by ..., July 27, 2008
The lyric of “Amazing Grace” says at all: I Once Was Lost But Now Am Found, Was Blind, But Now, I See.

Shelly… The problem is that you never went beyond the “Lost” part. Your self-proclaimed moral high ground is rubbish. Your ego has blindfolded you. Your views have been impaired by your own greedy blindness infection that prevents you seeing the larger context of things.

Do you really believe that in "trying to help" or "trying to fix" by slandering Brasil on this board yields any tangible results? I’d say on the contrary, you are perpetuating the american indifference and cruelty to other cultures and people. You are locked in a culture of cruelty believing that somehow, you will be rewarded as one of them.

You are not following any sacred mission; your attitude will not make the pain go away! People who make a real difference in the world do not advertise their deeds in a bumper sticker like you. They do it anonymously, by compassion and from their hearts. There is an old saying… “Anyone Can Be Polite To A King. It Takes A Gentleman To Be Polite To A Beggar.”

Moreover, your assumptions about myself are at best, hilarious! You don’t know who I am, my involvement in my community, or any of my charity work, to better my country and people. Live and learn or remain in silence, you fool!

Remember, what goes around comes around…. May your son be forsaking if McCain ever get elected, prolonging the brutality in Iraq for the next 100 years. Plenty of time for your son to be drafted to fight for freedom (killing innocent people), rape the Iraq people of their oil, but eventually coming face to face with an I.E.D.

Shelly, you are not patriotic, you are a traitor!

Costinha
Shelly Hubby… The Fat British Bastard
written by ..., July 28, 2008
I bet you could slip a quarter on the fag’s a.s.s.hole thru that big slot. Shelly husband can be admired at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related .

Enjoy it…

Costinha

PS: Shelly, I think you paid a high price for your Green-Card….. Hehehe
Crazy Shelly Said…
written by ..., July 29, 2008
“You bet I am. I am glad that I live in the US, where my family is VERY SAFE, MY KIDS can play outside and not worry about a stray bullet or hijacking.”

Riiiiiiiight….. I bet if you run a “sex offender” FBI background investigation in your neighborhood you’d surprised, by the lengthy list. Hell, the serial child molester may very well be your next-door neighbor.

Just ask your son if he has any nice uncle in the neighborhood!

Shelly Michelly…. Born an Idiot, Will Die an Idiot!

Luv U Babes

Costinha
Steve Wondering
written by ..., July 29, 2008
“I fail to be impressed with Lula's constant desire to portray himself as a moralist especially to the UN.”

To say the least, Lula is admired and respected in the international community. Can you say the same about Bush baby?

Costinha
c**ksuckerstinha
written by Shelly1, August 02, 2008
Wow, what a lengthy email outage! I guess I hit a nerve!

Riiiiiiiight….. I bet if you run a “sex offender” FBI background investigation in your neighborhood you’d surprised, by the lengthy list. Hell, the serial child molester may very well be your next-door neighbor.


I am glad I have the opportunity to check that here, in Rio or Brazil for that matter, child molesters and human traffickers go unpunished.

Should I remind you of the 14 year old FEMALE that was put in MALE JAIL? Should I remind you that she was RAPED, while police officers were watching? Who is the worst sex offender, the jail mate or the cop?

Costinha, you are a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"O Brasil ocupa um triste primeiro lugar do mundo em pedófilos rastreadores – que fazem comércio e trocas de informações, materiais e fotos via internet", disse a promotora.


c**ksuckerstinha, you are a joke-Brazil beats America in pedophilia!

http://www.magnomalta.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=167&Itemid=39
Sweet N Sour… Shelly69
written by ..., August 02, 2008
“Wow, what a lengthy email outage! I guess I hit a nerve”

You got me on this one! Honey, when it comes to male genital nerves you know what buttons to push.

Regarding any other topic, shut your filthy mouth… that c**k sucking machine.

Costinha
Costinha
written by Forrest Allen Brown, August 04, 2008
if you look close at pic of LULA

castro and chaves have there hands up there pupets butt to make sure he says the right thing .
the only ones that admire him are thoes there are less informed .and watch to much brasilian TV on how grate we are channel

you must be realated to the oprator of this web site as you bring nothing to the table but your myopic trash mouth

but we all know where the village idot is and if you are at the computer we know you are not out doing your form of sexing up very young boys

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