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Brazil's Own Air Force 1 Flies into Turbulence PDF Print E-mail
2005 - January 2005
Written by Guy Burton   
Monday, 17 January 2005 09:20

Lula's Airbus A-319 jet, the Santos Dumont or AeroLulaPresident Lula might be wondering whether the order should ever have been made. On Saturday, the government received its new presidential jet, at a cost of US$ 57 million. Already nicknamed AeroLula, it's generated much critical comment and highlighted the government's weak management of the media.

On Monday the website edition of the Folha de São Paulo presented ministers with a bad smell. The story claimed that Lula's government had spent less on water and sanitation than at any time since 1995, spending less than 500 million reais (US$ 185 million) last year and not enough if it wants to make services universal by 2020.

As if that didn't make uncomfortable reading, another story by the same organisation suggested the governing party's spending priorities seemed somewhat skewed.

According to the accounts, Lula's party (the PT, Workers' Party) colleague, Marta Suplicy, left a deficit of  1.9 billion reais (US$ 703 million) last year during her failed bid for re-election as São Paulo mayor.

Compared to Celso Pitta, Marta's predecessor, that's 530 million reais (US$ 196 million) more than the debt he left behind for her in 2000.

Meanwhile Marco Antonio Villa, a historian who has written on the droughts in the Northeast during the 19th and 20th centuries, argued that the government –like previous ones – has failed to come up with an anti-drought plan.

Given Lula's roots in the Northeast, the criticism suggests the President has forgotten his roots.

And in Congress the uncertainty continues to build. At the beginning of the year the government announced a number of ministerial changes go on. But they won't take place till February, which has only added to the jitters spreading throughout the political class.

Unfortunately the longer it drags on the more bad feeling is generated. Already some ministers are worrying that they might be the ones replaced while PT deputies have expressed alarm.

São Paulo congressman Ivan Valente made it clear that he wasn't happy at the prospect of the right-wing parties, the PFL and PP being represented in the government.

Whether Lula will listen to this is another matter. With a legislative programme including political and social security reform this year, the government will need all the support it can get.

And according to its allies, the success of the measures is vital if Lula is to be re-elected next year.

The PT's national president, José Genoíno, said on Friday that the party would make space available in the government to politicians of other parties.

“To win we have to make alliances. [We need them] to govern as well.”

But the unanswered question remains hanging: who on the opposition benches wants to help deliver that outcome for Lula?

Guy Burton was born in Brazil and now lives in London. He has written widely on Brazil both for Brazzil and on his blog, Para Inglês Ver, which can be read at http://guyburton.blogspot.com. He can be contacted at gjsburton@hotmail.com.



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AeroLula
written by Guest, January 17, 2005
In principle, I am not against the purchase of a business tool that can, theoretically, have a significantly long half-life and reduce yearly operational costs. In my books, however, an Airbus A-319 falls into the "nice-to-have" category, and not into the "must have". I wonder whether members of the congress aren't concerned about their safety. After all, the radical-flown-jumbo-jet/twin-towers combo has already been shown to be unhealthy.
Planes \"Made in Brazil\" not good enoug
written by Guest, January 17, 2005
The President needs a new airplane and should have the best. Politicians and diplomats alike promises the sky before election day to the poor citizens for their votes, after being elected to office they change their priorities and take care of their re-election options. Now, they fly imported planes and are driven in imported cars. While the majority of population ride the metro, over crowded and dagerous buses and vans and when possible maybe take a mototaxi or a taxi ride when money is available. It's no wonder that the Brasilean airlines like Varig are always in the red and requesting a government bail out. The least the government should've done was to purchased a plane made in Brazil. Again, Brasileans citizens will have to pay the piper.
Silly
written by Guest, January 18, 2005
It will be very interesting to see if there are PT/Lula supporters that will attempt to defend the purchase of AreoLula. The purchase of this airplane, at this time, when things were going pretty good for the President and his administration was political suicide. How can the Administration possibly spend US$56 million while under spending approved projects for sanitation, hunger, and education. And, perhaps they did not want us to notice, but the administartion also spent R$200,000 on new limos, guess the old ones were just not good enough. Oh, and did you all see where the AirForce flew 15 of Lula's teenaged son's friends to Brasilia for the holidays...perfectly legal, but the gas money for those trips could have put a lot of food on the table. Mr. Lula enjoys the luxury of power, it is intoxicating (no Lula puns intended), corruption comes in many forms, the abuse of power is certainly one. How about it all you PT diehards, are you proud of what your great leader has become?
hell raising
written by Guest, January 18, 2005
And??? What is the problem if Brasil or anyother countries have nuclear power??? USA wants to be the only one having it but also it's the only one that has used it against humans. The only one REALLY dangerous to the world is USA with its sick arrogance and authoritarism. Who the hell gave rights to USA to be the police of the world??? NOBODY and NOBODY wants that just because USA is a true menace to the world as much as the terrorists. WHAT AN ARROGANT COUNTRY!!! Didn't you learn yet your lesson about respecting other cultures and countries after 09.11??? And they are starting the s**t about Irã now just the same way they did about Irak while the whole world knows they just want to control the oil to control the world. will Amazônia be the next when they want to control the water in the world??? They already started softly convincing the world about the internalization of Amazônia, one day this will be a very normal, natural thought and they will be ready to invade Brasil arrogantly saying it's to SAVE the world... The tsunami in Asian was so much convenient to make the world not to pay so much atention to Irak anymore that I almost believe USA provocated that tragedy by some of their secret departments... who knows??? They have prove that they can make whatever for getting whatever they want...
Ha ha ha
written by Guest, January 18, 2005
Priceless, just priceless. Hell raising, you just made my day with that post. And I thought I´d seen it all here lately.
AND???
written by Guest, January 18, 2005
Your not "hell raising", but just making the same old tired decades old arguments regarding the US. Another uneducated Brazilian who claims he is "cultured" but has never left Brazil. What's the matter big guy, did they turn you down for your Visa at the American Embassy? Probably just pissed off that you can't go join hundreds of thousands of your countrymen living in the US WHO HAVE LIVES there. Oh, buy the way, the US doesn't see anything wrong with Brazil having nuclear, Colin Powell told the world so.Brush up on your "world events" then post here. As for the oil, we need it, have the might to take it, so why not do it?
Hell Rasing?????
written by Guest, January 18, 2005
If I was a Brazilian (my wife is), I would worry much more about your Presidents miss use of public money, education, health care, and seurity, than I would about America's action in Iraq, which by the way I do not support. Yes, we have big problems in the world, but how can Brazil comment on anything until it makes some effort to fix the giant mess at home?
Diversion
written by Guest, January 18, 2005
"Hell Raising" is only using silly diversion tactics. Nothing but a troll. Anyhow, the misuse of public money seems to be the issue. The military, in particular the Air Force, has justified the acquisition of the jet on three fronts: 1) The "AeroLula" is a technologically advanced aircraft; 2) it would be part of a comprehensive defense plan; and 3) it is built to last 30 years, serving, therefore, other presidents, and saving approximately US$ 5 million a year (!!!) on travel costs and maintenace. Any comments?

OK...
written by Guest, January 18, 2005
The 707 was a little old...but,

Could we have done it for less than US$56 million? What was the bidding process?

Defense from what?

$5 million a year? Who would believe anything the Brasilian military predicts? Although, we are good at fixing things, so the 30 years might be OK.

...
written by Guest, January 19, 2005
Gosh, I do not know whom the silliest person in this forum is ... Hell Raising with his stupid posting or the Americans who bother to answer those asinine comments ... (a Brazilian)
the aiorplane represents the Brazilians
written by Guest, January 19, 2005
Firts Aerolula, There's no such thing, you can give any name for it..but aerolula, sucks, he's not the owner...that airplane represents Brazil is our business card..he could use a embraer made one..but is not good for international business..the same company which we bought the plane from, will invest in Brazil. and 56 milhoes is not that much, embraer alone is making a lot of business,. already sold over 140 planes worldwide, estimate to make over 10 bil;hoes dollars in the next 10 years...the Brazilian one will be flying for the next 40 years or more, if don't crash. So people to com[plain about any thing is always there. Wec should worry yes to our mayors, politicians who expennd mopney in things which most not work for 10 years or do not work at all. and Americams alone, bought from Embraer over 100 planes this year alone. The problems Brazil have is something we should take care, but first we need money flow from outside, and hoping the presidential airplane, not aero lula, will bring more money, with Lula and the next presidents.
by the way
written by Guest, January 19, 2005
Embraer is investing a new factory in Florida state. Embraer got a good deal with Am,erican homeland security with the surveilance airplanes, $$$, this means some 20 years or more buying our aiplanes for militar use alone. and some people complain about americans and 56M. go to www.embraer.com and check out what some good Brazilians do for our country. Who knows even Lula will be after Vargas, our most important president?
AeroLula
written by Guest, January 19, 2005
My fellow poster may not like it, but the Brazilian press (and the Brazilian people) have already nicknamed the "Santos Dumont" as "AeroLula". Live with it. It is AeroLula "e ponto final". Oh, and part of the price tag comes from luxury items in the plane, and not technology. Bando de canalhas!
Entitlement mentality
written by Guest, January 19, 2005
I don't think the plane is excessive, it could be argued that it serves to project a positive image of Brazil abroad. What does bother me is Lula's R$17,000 (about 4 times what it should be) salary. Add to that the "ruling class" mentality of those employed by the Brazilian Government. This "maraja" class thinks it's above the law and have a birthright to look down on others. I figured out where all the Anti-Americanism comes from! These freeloaders just can't stand someone doing well outside of the control of their clique (panelinha). These dirtbags want to subject the US population to the same misery they CAUSED for their countrymen by STEALING from Brazilian taxpayers.
RE: Aerolula
written by Guest, January 19, 2005
My fellow poster, I'm sure wasn't the Brazilian people who nickname aerolula...but I'm sure was some reporter was present when some Lula's ass kisser..saw the airplane and say..."look here comes the aerolula" just kidding. I'm sure the plane was expect, and our wonderfull newsperson, who loves to make joke about anything, comes always with a nickname to downsize the event for the country, the people, not only LULA, Lula is our president he represents our country. I for one don't use the nickname...first Santos Dumont was a great person, a serious name to be put aside by a nickname, don't think??. Any Brazilian should do the same, honor Santos Dumont...and put a s**t nick for the press, who loves to mess with important or less events. I'm sure some gringo thinks "f**k all in this country has a nick?"
Why care
written by Guest, January 19, 2005
Why care about what one gringo says or thinks about our country? What matters is what Brasil thinks. The comments are amusing, as some gringo thinks he knows something of Brasil, but does not know anything about us. Comes here once, or twice, married a pretty Brasilian who could not marry a real Brasilian and needed a green card. What this person has to say is just not relevant, in other words who gives a damn what some gringo says. So what if the government buys a new plane? I say it's about time! Our President should not be flying around in a 707 ready for the junk heap. And what does he know about "maraja"? It does not effect his life in Gringolandia. He has selective knowledge of the term. I am proud of our new plane, and I will gladly pay $R17,000 a month for some integrity, in fact I would pay twice that for a President who does well for Brasil. It is fun to read the comments from this particular American who has been lucky enough to have found a Brasilian women, for this I congratulate him, he can tell his friends he know something about passion, but he knows nothing about Brasil. There are American's posting respectful, interesting comments, but this guest, adds nothing of substance. Perhaps I am giving him to much credit, and he is a child with nothing better to do than post nonesense on a blog forum.
You must have a guilty conscience!
written by Guest, January 19, 2005
You're mad because the truth hurts! "Marajas" matter because some of that money comes from US taxpayers! When greedy thieves become part of a high tax socialist government that steals your country (Brazil) into stavation, guess where your victims go? Why the good ole USA of course! I know if Brazil ever gets repaired, your kind might actually have to work for a living, we can't have that now can we? Not content to use your neighbors, your PT President feels the need to lobby for world taxation to suck into your corrupt wormhole. VOTE PPB (Partido Progressista) if you're in Brazil and help kick the UN out of the US if you're American!
I take exception
written by Guest, January 19, 2005
As a Brazilian man married to an American woman, I think the comments of Mr. Why Care are offensive and extremely shortsighted. As was my case and of a few other Brazilian ex-pats I know, men and women, I obtained a green card BEFORE I got married, sponsored by my employer. Today, I am also an American citizen, and I have two sons who will, one day, enjoy both citizenships, like I do. And yes, they will have to serve in the army, as most Brazilian men have to do, if they choose to also be brasileiros. I have business in Brazil, and I pay taxes in Brazil. I did NOT vote for Lula, and I casted my ballot in the Consulate in LA. So, wake up and smell the coffe, because if there is something irrelevant here is your attitude towards some decent people expressing their opinion. So, let's stick to the point: when the brazilian government buys a luxury item, it does affect me and my family here in Gringolandia.

Anyone who ever had to work with a budget, knows that you should consider alternatives. So I ask: where are these alternatives? I am not saying that the old 707 should still be used, but don't you think the price tag is a bit high for this new Air Bus? So, like others did before me, I question the wisdom of this purchase. "Do More With Less".
It can happen to the US too!
written by Guest, January 19, 2005
Being a US citizen, I hope you voted for Bush! I think the reason the Maraja class in Brazil liked Kerry is because they want to the the US fall flat on it's face! In other words, they enjoy watching others suffer.
I agree!
written by Guest, January 20, 2005
I am an American married to a Brazilian, my wife and children are all US citizens, we have family and friends in Brazil, and we care about what happens to them, thus what happens to Brazil. I don't take these postings seriously, they are amusment. What matters is the situation in Brazil. But I am opimistic, things seem to be getting better in many places in the country, Brazilians are leaving the large cites of Rio and Sao Paulo, and moving else where within the country, areas which provide opportunity. The large cites are so poorly run, that it will take decades to over come crime and corruption. We must also be honest, these rural areas that are now generating new opportunites are doing so because they are exporting products to "Gringolanda". Maybe I am naive, and most Brazilians hate me, but when I vist, I am treated with respect and warmth, it's the same with our Brazilian friends in the US. There seems to be an unusually high amount of hate and nationalism in the world right now, this is unfortunate, but I can only, judge Brazil and Brazilian by how I have been treated by Brazilians in the last 20 years, and I have been treated very well. I will continue to be a supported of both the USA and Brazil, and it is my hope both countries can solve some of the large problems they are expereincing.
AeroLula $ / Bush\'s Innaugeration $
written by Guest, January 20, 2005
My first post on this article:
As an American I watch the vaious network national news programs and each week one or the other reports on the many ways the US government has wasted tax payers' money - including this past week research on a chemical agent to be used against enemy troops to turn them into "homosexual lovers !!!!!" This is right up there with the CIA's notorious plan to defoliate Castro's face.

The amount of money - not just private, but taxpayer funds being spent today on today's Innauguration could buy a small fleet of AeroLulas. We here have very little room (and no right) to criticize questionable spending in other countries when our own wasteful use of money is more than many smaller countries total national budgets.
Let\'s fix it then!
written by Guest, January 20, 2005
I propose a 10% cut in the US national budget to get rid of all this waste, accompanied with a 10% tax cut. Part of that budget cut could come from the ceasing all payments to the UN. In Brazil, it is obvious that money to even build roads get pocketed, so Brazil needs a 50% cut in its national budget with a 50% tax cut! AeroLula is pocket change on a per capita basis! My hope for Brazil is that someone finds out where the real money went. If both came to pass, can you just imagine how much the left in both countries would howl.
Where is all the new money going.
written by Guest, January 20, 2005
The President flys around on his new luxury jet, shaking hands and kissing babies. Yesterday the Central Bank of Brasil rasied interest rates for the 50th straight time to "curb inflation" of course this prevents Brasilian companies from growing and creating new job. Brasil has won a battle, they have passed India for the highest interest rates in the world.
airplane mechanic
written by Guest, January 23, 2005
It is very interesting to see that people in Brazil have freedom to talk about thier government. If this freedom exist why are you still unhappy??The airplane your presidente purchased is a very technology advanced airplane. I have worked on these type of airplanes and know that your presidente is very safe while flying on this airplane. Maybe he is concerned about his safety. I have heard Brazilians say that Americans are arrogant. But I know that Brazilians are almost like the Saudis, very demanding, difficult to satisfy, and want quality items for a penny.
airplane mechanic
written by Guest, January 25, 2005
I'm sorry, But the reason for the plane is 1- economic, 2- less fuel, 3- less time, 2- was a good deal, and after all, yes, the plane is safe..like any plane. My point is...If you are a American I'm LULA! and I don't think a guy who works in planes that size call themselfes mechanics?? airplane mehanic, work in those propelers airplanes, they use pistons..So stop trying to be a American, or even a mechanic, you may be, but is not a jet plane engineer. I'm so tired of Brazilians trying to show off here, i'm a Brazilian, and I think in this comments, you should sign your name! your real name. Some you guys remenber me that movie"catch me if you can" , so what are you gonna be tomorrow? a pilot?
Ricardo farias.
How sad...
written by Guest, January 25, 2005
Why is it that so many people who take the time to educate themselves by reading this (and hopefully other) news sites can be so judgemental?

The article was about the expense (justifiable or not) of an aircraft when considering the overall financial situation of Brasil.

This dialogue appears to exude anger and well... arrogance. We can never "really" know what happens behind closed political doors, but to attack each other? Further to attack a country as a whole? Or even Lula as if he had THAT much power...

I am not proud of US politics. Yet, I do believe the old saying that,

"Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones"

Needless to say, with all of the energy those writers have invested in this commentary, did it have to be an attack or an accusation?

There are both good and bad people in every country. Can someone please explain to me how a diatribe of negativity can do anything to minimize the cost or explain the reasoning behind the purchase of a Presidential aircraft?

Maybe we can try and understand where we can do something that can help, even if it is just sharing what you DO know to help educate and expand those of us who are hmmmm... not Brasilian? and maybe we can teach you something as well... Who can say.

What's important may not be how hard you can push your point, but maybe how you can help others see why you think and feel the way you do.

The earth is not that big that we are all not in the same confused, or more politely, uninformed place...

Finding sensibility in all the craziness could be very productive...
Aerolula
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
First of all, I find some comments outrageous, I am Brazilian and so is my wife, but we live in Canada by choice. Our son was born in Canada and the three of us enjoy both, Brazilian and Canadian citizenship. Some of the comments about a brazilian getting married with a person of another country are unjustifiable, outrageous and chauvinist to say the least. I find this kind of comment pretty offensive. What is important is being happy to whoever you choose to marry.

Now, about the so called "Aerolula", perhaps the money could be better spent in more urgent matters. I believe that this should not be a priority. A fancy jumbo Jet should be left for those countries that can afford it. Since nothing can be done, the plane was already bought, let us not forget that this plane is to be used by this and the next presidents of Brazil. It does not belong to Lula.


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