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Helping the Helpless in Brazil PDF Print E-mail
2005 - January 2005
Written by John Fitzpatrick   
Friday, 28 January 2005 08:52

Sister Clara Fraternity (Fraternidade Irmã Clara or FIC) looks after cerebral palsy sufferers in São Paulo, Brazil.If you visit Brazil as a tourist or on business you will get no real idea of how poor and underdeveloped the country is. You will see signs of poverty and misery, such as favela shanty towns, beggars, and children living in the streets, but these are only the tip of the iceberg.

Poverty, malnutrition, illiteracy and lack of access to decent housing, water and sewage treatment are prevalent in both urban and rural areas. Tackling these problems is beyond the ability of the federal, state and city governments, regardless of their political hue.

The reason is simple – lack of money. The government taxes companies and individuals at extremely high rates but this does not bring in nearly enough resources to end social misery.

One of the reasons is because most Brazilians are too poor to pay tax or they work in the unofficial sector, which accounts for at least 35% to 40% of the official economy.

If the government were able to regularize this sector, it would have access to  billions of dollars in extra revenues. Corruption is another chronic problem which means that public funds are often diverted into illicit bank accounts and often whisked abroad. 

The authorities cooperate with international organizations like the World Bank and UNESCO, as well as church groups, NGOs and other voluntary bodies, but this is still not enough.

The government also borrows from domestic and foreign investors but these loans have to be repaid with interest and the nation is highly indebted. In short, Brazil is bust and nowhere near eradicating its social problems and ending the wide gap between the poor and better off.

Private individuals and companies are aware of this problem on a daily basis. Middle class people pay taxes for public schools, hospitals, and security services but do not benefit because they are inefficient and unsatisfactory.

The better off people end up sending their children to private schools, taking out private health insurance policies and hiring their own security. By doing so, they are freeing up resources for the government bodies, subsidizing the poor and preventing the current bad situation from becoming much worse.

Corporate Citizenship

At corporate level, virtually every company has some kind of social responsibility program. Some of the larger concerns even have foundations and institutes with full-time professional staff and annual budgets worth millions of dollars.

These help educate and look after the health of hundreds of thousands of young people and adults all over the country. As well as education and health, companies sponsor environmental, cultural and sports initiatives.

I will not single out any company, but you only need to visit their sites to see the size and scope of their activities. Some companies even publish separate social reports along with their annual business activities report.

This kind of corporate action is different from western Europe or North America where good corporate citizenship tends to concentrate on other areas, such as the environment.

It is impossible to imagine a big German or British industrial company running a large hospital, as one of the Brazil’s biggest conglomerates does in São Paulo.

The social responsibility displayed by domestic and multinational companies in Brazil belies the politically correct view that they are only interested in profits and exploiting people.

Looking After Cerebral Palsy Sufferers

However, tens of thousands of charitable organizations do not have a big sponsor and rely on individual donations and voluntary workers. An example of one such body is the Sister Clara Fraternity (Fraternidade Irmã Clara or FIC), which looks after cerebral palsy sufferers in São Paulo.

This organization operates under conditions which would make most Europeans and North Americans shudder.

It is based in cramped, narrow quarters under a viaduct in the Barra Funda region, with traffic thundering by literally above its head. The FIC looks after 36 patients, most of whom are children.

The infrastructure is old and inefficient due to the location. However, all the clinical, social and living conditions have been approved by the statutory health and government agencies, as well as by professional bodies representing nurses and doctors.

The center spends a huge amount of money to meet all the requirements the government imposes on it even though the authorities do not reciprocate.

The sad truth is that these children would have nowhere else to go if the FIC did not exist. Many have been abandoned by their families who could not look after them while others are wards of court sent there by judicial order.

Most are very badly deformed, cannot walk and require intensive treatment. Most cannot speak and communicate in other ways - by smiling, crying, raising their hands or rolling their eyes.

Three quarters of the patients require help just to masticate their food since they have little strength to swallow. Others are incapable of any movement and have to be shifted around regularly to prevent bedsores and related conditions.

Albino Campos, director of communication, says that adult visitors are often so shocked when they see the children that they cry.  Despite their plight, the children are conscious of what is happening, said Cibelle do Nascimento who edits the FIC’s newspaper.

“Volunteers are told not to patronize them. They are interested in television, football and music and have their favorite players and singers,” she added.

Eight children are able to go to a special school nearby. This is a private school and charges around R$ 1,800 (US$ 640) a month, but the FIC has some full and half-time scholarships.

The other children spend their time at the center, taking part in activities and receiving remedial treatment. They are cared for 24 hours a day by a team of 55 professional and auxiliary staff, including doctors and nurses, supported by volunteers.

Those with families receive visitors and sometimes they are even taken to see their families. These visits bring hope to everyone, not just the patient, Mr. Albino said. 

“The members of one very poor family put a lot of work into cleaning and tidying up the shack where they lived when the child paid the visit and one of the uncles even stopped drinking for a week. This shows that places like the FIC can help everyone involved.” 

It costs R$ 150,000 (around US$ 53,000) a month just to keep the center running. Since the FIC receives no financial support from any government body it must raise this money itself.

It has no political, religion or corporate links, although it wants to develop corporate partnerships. Money is raised in various ways, through appeals, fund-raising events, bazaars etc.

It also receives donations of food, drugs, clothes and other items from well-wishers and supporters, and runs a thrift store. It publishes a magazine, which has a circulation of 7,000 copies, and has a site in Portuguese and English.

Most of the funds come from Brazil but it has also received help from people in the United States, Switzerland, the Netherlands and Belgium.

A rehabilitation center, containing a heated swimming pool and physiotherapy facilities, was opened in May 2000. It took several years to raise the money and organize donations of construction material for this project but it was worth the effort.

This more modern part of the center has provided hope for many children. Nurse Luciana de Giussio spoke of one girl who was successfully treated for a severely curved spine.

However, dramatic successes like this are few. “Just moving a finger which had been paralyzed is a breakthrough in some cases,” she added.

New Center Planned

The FIC is planning to build a new center nearby at a cost of at least R$ 5 million (around US$ 1.78 million). The land has been donated by the city government but the cost of construction and maintenance will be borne by the center.

The aim is to accommodate patients in the new center in more modern conditions and use the existing center for out-patients receiving day treatment. This would allow the FIC to reach more patients at a lower cost.

The organization was founded 22 years ago and is run by an elected board of directors. It has won a prestigious Brazilian national award for its efficiency and international registration by the US Charity Aid Foundation (CAF).

This registration is particularly important since it means that Americans can donate funds to the FIC through the CAF and receive a tax benefit from the US authorities. Non-Americans can also make donations directly through the CAF. Its site is www.cafonline.org.

Cerebral palsy is a good example of a disease which penalizes the poorer section of society. The usual cause is not genetic but an accident during birth, especially involving asphyxiation.

The diagnosis in most cases can be made at birth but Brazil’s, inefficient public health infrastructure does not provide conditions for that.

If a child is born under healthy conditions, where the mother has had pre-natal exams and support, nutritious food, good living conditions and is in a healthy psychological state, the chance of an accident can be reduced. Even if the worse happens, the babies can still be well treated.

However, this does not happen with children born in cases where the mother has had no pre-natal treatment or post-natal support. These babies end up having severe brain palsy. Parents are usually traumatized when diagnosis is made and often the father just abandons the baby with the mother.

Every year 40,000 children are born with cerebral palsy in Brazil. That’s why places like the FIC will continue working for a long, long time and take on the burden, which is assumed by governments in more developed countries.

If you are in São Paulo, you can visit the FIC at Avenida Pacaembu 40 from Tuesday to Sunday between 10 a.m. and 4 p.m. It is located under the Viaduct, close to the Barra Funda metro and near the Memorial da América Latina.

You can also visit its site at ficfeliz.org.br and make a donation or become a volunteer. Telephone: (international code - 55) 11 3666 2727.

John Fitzpatrick is a Scottish journalist who first visited Brazil in 1987 and has lived in São Paulo since 1995. He writes on politics and finance and runs his own company, Celtic Comunicações—www.celt.com.br—which specializes in editorial and translation services for Brazilian and foreign clients. You can reach him at jf@celt.com.br.

© John Fitzpatrick 2005



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Bianca
written by Guest, January 28, 2005
I´m an English student, currently working with Cross Cultural Solutions in Salvador. In the mornings I work in a care centre for children and adults with HIV/ AIDs, while the rest of my time I am a regular tourist, here to learn about the culture and enjoy the partying. I´m hardly going to rid Brazil of its problems, but the smiley faces I see each morning make me feel I´m doing something right. I would recommend the same experience to anyone who wants a rewarding introduction to this complex country.
God...get me a rope.
written by Guest, January 28, 2005
Mr. Fitzpatrick, you have again demonstrated your skills at portraying Brasil as a cesspool without hope...thanks again. The problems as you mentioned are huge...but in this case very acurate, way beyond the abiliy of our current President and political culture to improve in even the slighest way. Globo continues to publish great financal news, exports up, unemployement way down, government tax collections at record levels. And even an article on this forum how we are going to kick the US's ass in farming and farming exports. But the stark reality is, only a very few people are any better off than they were several years ago, in fact even worse. Great work President Lula, we appreciate your efforts, but expected no results. Thank God for Pinga!
Re: buy yourself a rope!
written by Guest, January 28, 2005
Cara cala a sua boca! quem quer saber da sua opiniao sobre John? Ate com um artigo como este vc vem reclamar? Vc tem problemas com o cara manda e-mail pra ele, nos poupe da sua ignorancia! A pergunta q eu te faco e simples: - O que vc faz para ajudar o Brasil? nao mente, e nem quero saber a sua resposta, isto e para vc mesmo enxergar o seu ass! ok. Tenho certeza q depois de ler este artigo a ultima coisa que vc pensou foi 1- ajudar o FIC, vai la www.ficfeliz.com.br e faca um deposito? 2- ou pensou que talveis o pessoal, melhor os Brasileiros do FIC ficariam agradecidos pelo John por este artigo, no qual muitos brasileiros como eu e vc lem? garanto q os brasileiros que trabalham no FIC nao se importam de pedir doacoes para quem quer que seja. Melhor antes de se matar com um rope q vc tanto deseja depois de um simples artigo como este, Dramatico! faca um favor, visite o FIC e de um HOPE pra alquem realmente que precisa muito mais do que vc!
Ricardo Farias
Dear Mr. John Fitzpatrick
written by Guest, January 28, 2005
I agree that everyone is entitled to the your opinion including your putrid self. However, in your case, the only thing you manage to spill out are “negatives” about Brasil. You openly criticize the country continuously complaining and whining just about everything around you that is Brasilian. If you are so unhappy in Brasil, why don’t you simply pack your stuff and leave, nobody is going to miss you. I for one will be delight not having to read your vomit any longer!

You see, I can take constructive criticism but negative ones without offering solutions becomes bashing. What I have observed from you is Brasil bashing on a continuos base.

I wonder if the roles were reversed, that is, a Brasilian journalist living either in your country (Ireland or Scotland) or the US bashing those nations…that poor soul would be thrown out of that country faster than you could blink.

Why can’t you once in a while have some enlightening story about Brasil, the Brasilian technology, the beauty of its people and country, the different cultures that characterizes the nation, and the like. You are indeed perpetuating the warped image that Europeans and certainly Americans have had of Brasil for a long time….stop it! I don’t know what your intentions are but frankly, I don’t give a s**t, one way or the other.

Like they say, if you can’t stand the heat…get the hell out, and your time has come, and don’t let the door hit your ass on your way out!

Quit yapping another epileptic seizure on the keyboard… and go f**k yourself into oblivion, she-beast.
unfortunate
written by Guest, January 29, 2005
After reading quite a few of Mr.Fitzpatricks articles ,I get the impression he actually loves Brasil.I think it is unfortunate that you can't disagree with John without insulting him.I am an American from Ohio,a state which is known for being ultra-conservative and where people actually say that you're anti-American if you don't support the war.So when I hear you attack John as he makes a heartfelt appeal for those in need in your country ,I wonder who the real villain is ?The profanity wasnt necessary either.If John lives ,works and pays taxes in Brasil,he's entitled to express his opinion.I have spent enough time in Brasil to know there is no shortage of opinions about the U.S. but I have always been treated like a fellow human first and an American second and I appreciate that.I thought John did present a solution ,charitable donation,and I thought the article was enlightening , what is your solution ?
fortunate
written by Guest, January 29, 2005
As you mentioned, "he's entitled to express his opinion" and so am I. I also spent many years in Brasil (was born there) and 32 years here in the US.

As to solutions...they are complex in nature given the broad diversity in Brasil, but by the same token, I did not write that idiotic article. Mr. Fitzpatricks perception of Brasil is superficial at best. He does not understand what Brasil is about by any stretch of the imaginagion, and since I am entitled to my own opinion, I find Mr. Fitzpatricks to be a annoying moron.

I wish he left Brasil and go back to wherever he is from...and leave us alone!
you ARE alone
written by Guest, January 29, 2005
You guys are funny and completely understandable. It is this denial in seeing the truth about Brazil that keeps the country in this situation. So what if Mr. John is being critical ? Why do you read the articles if you think they're negative ? Why do you insult people for speaking out ? Why don't you try to make your point by effectively disarming Fitzpatricks argument ? Because you can't ?
And who cares what other nations think of Brazil ? Let them think what they want. If there isn't any truth to these articles you shouldn't be bothered, right ? The next time you are being held up at gun point because of the disastrous social inequality I want you all to be true to yourselves, give up all your belongings with a smile on your face, give the thieves a hug and go home happy, knowing that you did your part to help someone who needs it more than you.
Thanks John
written by Guest, January 29, 2005
I really hate when my fellow brazilian counterparts accuse anyone who points out what's going bad in our country as a betrayer. John Fitzpatrick just told us the reality here, nothing more, nothing less. And yes, he really loves this country, for what he is doing is trying to point out a sollution to a land he loves. But one can not ignore the problems we have here.
The fact is, as John told in the first paragraphs, that the government really spends too much and even so, lacks money. It's an insult for me, and should be an insult to any serious brazilian, that a government that publishes in the senate website (www.senado.gov.br), that they spend as much as the whole brazilian gnp per year has no money to invest in social areas. Considering the fact that brazilian gnp through ppp (purchase power parity) tops USD 1,4 trillion one can get the point. And I laugh when people defend that the government should not pay their debts because there is one simple reason for not doing that: they simply can't stop spending! So, they will need more money everytime!
The government would do an immense favor to the country if they simply ceased to exist. That would be the most honest thing to do. Because I can't see an area where they aren't completely useless or nearly so. The integrity of the territory is somewhat controversial. The army and the Receita Federal recently were bestowing the responsability of defending our borders against drug dealers upon each other. We got the point, our borders are defeseless. We have not a police that we can trust. Our justice system is so slow and so deep in corruption and stupidity, that one cannot depend on them without paying some bribe or being friend of some insider. The health care system just takes care of basic issues. Surgeries take years to be done, so many people die just before that.
And I exposed just the points where the government is incompetent (there sure are others). If they were just incompetent in those areas, it would not be a serious problem. The biggest problem is that the government is good to defend the interests of the big ones. So, VASP is going down? No problem, throw R$ 1,5 billion to them. They sure will not pay that. Their balance is negative in R$ 6 billion. Someone needs to build a billion dollar factory in Maranhão? No problem, BNDES is there for that. The big crop producers need money to invest? BNDES again. Everything with our money, the idiots who keep this whole s**t running by paying our taxes, while locked in our houses fearing both the thefts and the police.
That's not a fault of president Lula... perhaps Cardoso had something to do with it. It's something bigger. The mafias have taken the country and the president is no more in charge. We should simply wipe this structure out, kill the gangsters in power, before they do that to us. And before the wretched do that, as they are already doing.
Still Thanks John
written by Guest, January 29, 2005
I forgot to mention. I think we have a neo-communism here in Brazil. That's why the country doesn't get richer. Everything depends on the government, and the government creates difficulties for the small businesses to got to market. They really reward too much the ones who can escape taxes, and the small businesses who must pay half of the wage of their employees to the government are deterred in competition. That's why we are poor and have so much difference between poor and riches. This is a government for the riches and only for the riches. For a few chosen. While the first world has developed through a middle class responsible for about 60% of gnp in most developed countries through free-market economies we are still trying our way to do things...
prevalent
written by Guest, January 29, 2005
"Poverty, malnutrition, illiteracy and lack of access to decent housing, water and sewage treatment are prevalent in both urban and rural areas. Tackling these problems is beyond the ability of the federal, state and city governments, regardless of their political hue. "

Prevalent}, {Prevailing}. What customarily prevails
is prevalent; as, a prevalent fashion. What actually
prevails is prevailing; as, the prevailing winds are
west. Hence, prevailing is the livelier and more
pointed word, since it represents a thing in action.
It is sometimes the stronger word, since a thing may
prevail sufficiently to be called prevalent, and yet
require greater strength to make it actually
prevail

Is poverty, malnutrition, lack of access to decent housing, water and sewage treatment in both urban and rural areas PREVALENT in brazil. I think not. Not according to the definiton.

"One of the reasons is because most Brazilians are too poor to pay tax or they work in the unofficial sector, which accounts for at least 35% to 40% of the official economy."

Most people including the poor pay taxes by ways of the Icms ( sales tax). How is taxing the unofficial sector going to improve living conditions if as the author points out the money is not spent wisely? There is a contradiction here. is it possible that lowering the taxes for everyone may make the economy stonger and hence benefit everyone? What is the average wage of those who make work in the unofficial sector? Are they really poor? If so what percentage is poor?

"Cerebral palsy is a good example of a disease which penalizes the poorer section of society. The usual cause is not genetic but an accident during birth, especially involving asphyxiation."

"The diagnosis in most cases can be made at birth but Brazil’s, inefficient public health infrastructure does not provide conditions for that"

What is the ratio of succesfull diagnosis to missed diagnosis in other countries compared to brazil?
Exactly what infrastructure and know how is needed to diagnose cerebral palsy ? What percentage of brazilian public and private hospitals lack them? what is the number of patients in need of these services that are unable to benefit from them in comparison to the total amount of patients that do benefit from them? Is it PREVALENT?

"Every year 40,000 children are born with cerebral palsy in Brazil. That’s why places like the FIC will continue working for a long, long time and take on the burden, which is assumed by governments in more developed countries."

What are the statistics for cerebral palsy in other nations across the board? How much of the FIC budget comes from foreign governments and donors? Including all other hospitals, intitutions and ongs that assist the prevention and treatment of cerebral palsy in brazil what percentage of their financing comes from foreigners?






BRAZIL THE LAND OF UNREALISTIC LIFE!
written by Guest, January 29, 2005
HOW I WOULD LOVE TO CHANGE BRAZIL!
HOW I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE THE LIBERTY OF BRAZIL!
HOW I WOULD LOVE TO BE FREE AS A HUMAN BEING IN BRAZIL!
HOW I WOULD LOVE TO EXPRESS MY FREE-OPINION WITHOUT BEING PERSECUTED FROM THE POLITICS AND ELITE GANGSTERS!
HOW I WISH THAT THE GOVERMMENT FIGHT OF CORRUPTION TO DEVELOPED THE SOCIAL PROGRAMS TOWARDS THE NATION.MONEY DO THEY HAVE A LOT...A LOT OF MONEY...A LOT OF MONEY...THE MONEY GOES AWAY TO MAKE BRAZIL THE MISERY COUNTRY FOR THE PROSPERITY AND RICHNESS OF THE OTHERS COUNTRYS AND PEOPLE.
HOE I WOULD LOVE NOT TO WRITE THIS SAD WAY IN LIFE.
Philantropy in Brazil
written by Guest, January 29, 2005
Firstly, I would like to congratulate Mr. Fitzpatrick on his choosing such a worthwhile cause, and actually doing something to help in just posting this aritcle.

To those interested in helping, I think another link might be interesting: It's a site describing Prof. Stephen Kanitz's (a Brazilian despite the Anglo-Germanic name) research into philantropic institutions throughout Brazil and the people who run them. It's the most complete list of opportunities for donations and volunteering I know of. It's mostly in Portuguese, but I suspect it wouldn't be difficult to navigate using some automatic translator. the address is www.filantropia.org
Hopeful
written by Guest, January 29, 2005
To Unfortunate, wake up and smell the coffee little man. I think John was quite candid which is not common with your Brazilian media here. The country has never been run right in 500 years.Perhaps your pockets are being filled at the expenese of the poor and you don't want anyone rocking you boat. John's support of a worthwhile cause is fantastic and if you learn to understand written english you will be able to comprehend his love for the country but also his empathy for the sad state of affairs of a could be great country ,but Brazil's time to shine has long passed and doubtful if the chance will ever return in this decade. But don't stop hoping and become part of the solution, and not a continuation of the problems..
what is the solution?
written by Guest, January 29, 2005
Bom eu vou escrever em portuques, para q meus compatriotas possam refletir sobre o artigo acima. Brazil sempre sera um pais com o melhor povo do mundo, nenhum pais no mundo tem tantas organizacoes como o Brasil. E como John diisse, em paises ricos eles pensam mais no meio ambiente, como no Brasil temos muitos problemas sociais antes do que ambiental, somos um pais humano, de muito coracao, e sempre ajudamos o proximo primeiro. Mas este e o ponto do artigo, temos tudo organizacoes, fator humano, para combater qualquer mal humano. Mas o Governo, eu sinto as vezes, que o governo parece explorar isto. No caso do artigo acima, a doenca e um simples teste antes e/ou depois do nascimento, e/ou mesmo assim se for tratada cedo a crianca tem mais chances! este e o ponto, no Brasil, o povo esta sempre a postos para ajudar, gostamos de ser voluntarios, melhor do que nao fazer nada. Mas todas as horas de voluntariado para ajudar a remediar ou retardar um evento a maioria das vezes e em vao e um ciclo vicioso. Qual e a solucao? . Um exemplo quando governo( este e essencial) e povo andam unidos em pro de uma situacao: AIDS, nao achamos cura, mais hoje vc tem apoio do governo e das ong's aconselho a ver os estudos sobre isto, este e o estudo que o mundo ve no programa da Aids no Brasil. Um problema muito grave para nossa nacao, se sair do controle pode quebrar o Brasil literalmente. Mas no caso acima como muitos outros mals que atingem paises em desenvolvimento tem uma solucao mais simples, o caso e que a aids tem um estrago muito maior, e mais visivel. muitos acham que e so doar dinheiro? nao! devemos exigir mais do governo, como? gostaria que os comentarios aqui fossem neste focus,Este e o ponto, quando John poe sempre um artigo, se vc ler com cuidado ele tenta fazer a gente refletir sobre nos, Brasileiros. John ve o potencial Brasileiro. Ao inves de ficarmos aqui cuspindo arrogancia na cara de um do outro.

So I gonna ask, if you have nothing to say, which gives more focus on the articles, please do not post! Some people here are like those Two olds guys from the "Muppets Show" siting on the balcony, always seeing the show ( Brazzil.com) but always making no good comments, but there is funny, here for most serious people Brazilians or any other country do you even think?
Ricardo Farias
SO?
written by Guest, January 29, 2005
So is it PREVALENT? I guess accountability isn´t an issue here.
Late Poster
written by Guest, January 30, 2005
I have read the article as well as all postings, even those in Portuguese by Ricardo. As an ex-pat living in Brasil, after the first few months "wear out" it is very simple to realize that Brasil has emense social problems, that quite frankly seem "un-fixable". The Brasilian people keep feeding the machine (governo), and the machine keeps breaking down. I will disagree with one poster who claims the press hides the problems, in fact, they are very good a pointing the problems out. I think that those that critize Mr. Fitzpatrick, are simply frustrated about being bombarded with hearing about problems that they have been hearing about for decades. What they would like to hear now, are viable solutions. But alas, none will be forthcoming. Witness President Lula, who was lambasted this week at the WSF/ His. Pie in the sky" ideas are unfathonable to the "pais ricos". So, I do understand the folks who are upset with the author, his articles are about problems that everyone is already well aware of. Of course, he has a right to do it, and people have a right to object. But perhaps this forum would be of more interest if there were some real ideas about what could be done to make Brasil a better country for it's citizens.
i agree
written by Guest, January 30, 2005
to resolve problem you first must indentify the problem then an assesment. To do this properly you must have facts to back it up and prove your facts and reasoning by mentioning your sources and THEM mentioning how, by ways of the information, your formula would sove the problem. . Mr Fitzpatrick makes a statement of how we should help those who sufferfrom cerebral palsy yet fails to mention the sources plus fails to provide further information why, as he claims, we should. This is not about being against those who suffer from cerebral palsy nor being against those who point out problems and confilicts in brazil. THIS IS ABOUT PROVING WHAT YOU WROTE IS TRUE. ANY HONEST JOURNALIST WOULD CITE HIS SOURCES.
então?
written by Guest, January 30, 2005
Fitzpatrick escreveu que no brasil ( a parte " prevalent") da população não tem acesso a agua encanana nas zonas rurias e urbanas, que a parte " prevalent" dos brasileiros não sabe ler nem escever " illiterate" e que se fomos pesquisar a mAIORIA DOS BRASILEIROS são mal-nutridos ( malnutrition). Oras aqui estamos perguntando ao SR . Fitzpatrick onde encontrou os numeros que dão suporte a sua afirmação. Se ele fez uma AFIRMAÇÃO então deveria citar as fontes para que os leitores possam ver se sua afirmação é verdadeira. BASTA CITAR AS FONTES.
FITZPATRICK
written by Guest, January 30, 2005
FITZPATRICK is not profesional. If you are waiting for him to mention his sources then forget about it. The guy just came up with a topic which would move us ( those who suffer from cerebral palsy) then wrote whatever he wanted to make the reader feel guilty about his society. IF what fitzpatrick wrote about the FIC is true ( which probably is, it is his bait) that does not mean that we should believe that the guy was honest in his stemantes about brazilain consitions concerning hunger, housing, illeteracy etc etc). The guy is just not forthcoming.
REALMENTE
written by Guest, January 30, 2005
Se uma pessoa escreve que a bomba atomica sobre hiroshima foi um massacre todos concordariamos. O que pertuba é quando a bomba de hiroshima matou 1 milhão de pessoas e o autor diz que matou 5 milhões de pessoas pois acredita que fomos sensiblizados ( uma bomba atomica foi lancada e matou certo numero de pessoas) Então o mesmo autor acha que pode afirmar que a bomba matou 4 milhões de pessoas a + do que realmente matou. È um truque pois uma morte ja é uma tragedia entretanto isso não quer dizer que é desejavel nem positivo inventar uma numero de vitimas maior do que existe.Fitzpatrick faz isso quando inventa dados sobre a fome , porcentagem de agua encanada etc etc.
We deserve better
written by Guest, January 30, 2005
I am not against the Mr Fitzpatric because he is scottish. If you do some research you will find out that most os us came from a place that is not brazil. Yet that does not mean that just because we came from there we should be forgiven for our mistakes, It seems that M.r Fitzpatrick is a s**tty imigrant. We deserve better.
yeah
written by Guest, January 30, 2005
the guy who claims to be a journalist can´t even mention his sources. he is probably one of those irish catholics that imigrated to scotland and when the scots didn´t want to put up with his incompetence he decided to come to brazil. I also think we deserve better. Fitzpatrick should go back to scotland and deal with his issues.
yeah again
written by Guest, January 30, 2005
´peam que os protesyantes de ULSTER não mataram sua familia. o cara é geracão " potato famine". Um morte de fome que mataria por uma batata.
Good postings
written by Guest, January 30, 2005
I hope Mr Fitzpatrick will read these, you have given him some constructive critisism. When a journalist loses his credibility, well, he is no longer an effective journalist. I am not sure if what you all said is true, but I will be paying much closer attention to his articles, and what he sites as facts.I just hope he pays more attention to how he writes. Mr. Fitzpatrick...we will be watching you.
RIGHT !
written by Guest, January 30, 2005
Exactly. It is after all much easier to watch and criticise Fitzpatrick than to change anything about the government, that not only lies a lot more than John, but also indeed affects the life of the Brazlian population.
Look around
written by Guest, January 30, 2005
I am a dual citizen - american and Brazilian.
Live a long time in Brazil, and talking about the issues as favela shanty towns, beggars, and children living in the streets, but these are only the tip of the iceberg, etc...well Mr. Fitzpatrick, have you ever been in New York , uptown, bronx, public buildings and projetcs,.....why not talking about some neighborhoods in Paris (like the ones the immigrants live)....what about in Germany....by the end of the day...when you talk about poverty, except from Africa every country seems to have the same problems
Re: Look around
written by Guest, January 31, 2005
Indeed... but in Brazil, in only three years, I had my car stolen twice, the electricty cables of my house were stolen several times (I lost the count smilies/smiley.gif) and I was robbed once. A friend of mine was shot and lost movements in the legs and arms. And I've heard tens of scary stories that happened to people around me.
Anyway, have you gone to the countryside? Have you seen how people live there? Have you visited some city in Mato Grosso? Piauí? Perhaps some of the people who have objected are cariocas, who say Rio is the face of Brazil and all that bulls**t. They think the problem is not prevalent when some millions of people live in shantytowns in the city's metro area. You want some sources? There are plenty of them around you. Just read. Anyway, it's even worse in the countryside, except in the three states to the south and the west of the state of São Paulo, some cities in the south of Minas Gerais, Mato Grosso do Sul and Rio de Janeiro. Just a matter of running the country.
And ok... every country has its problems. Poverty exists everywhere, but not in the levels you found in Brazil. Violence also exists everywhere, but in most of places it is very very far below the levels found in Brazil. Forget it, for the brazilians who fear the image of the country may get too bad, forget it. That doesn't matter anymore. It's time for us to face the facts, the reality and start working on it.
And don't forget people. For MEC, an alphabetized person is someone who knows to write his/her own name. So, better revise the statistics too.
ATTENTION WHINNERS (you know who you are
written by Guest, January 31, 2005
I see many of the above posters have resorted to a well-known tactic of the left. When you can't respond directly to an issue, attack the messenger! It seems a large segment of Brazilians prefer to irrationally defend the status quo with paltry excuses, twisted logic and outright denial of the perversity of social problems here. Don't blame Lula either, he can hardly be expected to make good citizens out of those of you who actively shun responsibility and accountability. Attacking Fitzpatrick won't makes Brazil's problems go away.
WHINNERS
written by Guest, January 31, 2005
"Don't blame Lula either, he can hardly be expected to make good citizens out of those of you who actively shun responsibility and accountability. Attacking Fitzpatrick won't makes Brazil's problems go away."

This IS about accountability. M.R Fitzpatrick should be held accountable for what he writes and should mention his sources.The Author of 'LOOK AROUND uses the same tatics as fitzpatrick, he mentions a few random cases expexting us to believe that those cases because of their shocking nature presnts a pattern and is PREVALENT in our society. If MEC as he says considers a person to be literate if he or she can write their names must we then believe that most brazilians are illiterate? Must we believe that most brazilains are literate?' The problem with this is that the person gives a bunch of negative examples about what happened to him in brazil then goes on to speaks about the poverty he saw in a few specific places and then says that the mec uses a certain methodology to test literacy and expexts us to follow the negative trend of his examples so to take that statement to mean that illiteracy is prevalent.
To improve consitions anywhere in this planet people need reliable information that can be backed up by sources. Poeple also need to to their jobs properly, from the doctor on to the policeman, the nurse and the streetcleaner. It is the job of the journalist to inform and he can only do this properly if he presents facts to back up the logic of any position he is taking.
It is poor journalism to try to prove your point by sensationalism.
discernimento
written by Guest, January 31, 2005
Para se vacinar contra artigos tendeciosos e sem comprovação e tbm desenvolver um senso critico apurado sugiro a leitura do livro " A mathemathician reads the newspaper" de John Allen Paulos. Abaixo segue uma critica do livro que pode ser encontrado em http://www.amazon.com/exec/obi...9?v=glance

Editorial Reviews

Amazon.com
In this book the author of Innumeracy : Mathematical Illiteracy and Its Consequences reveals the hidden mathematical angles in countless media stories. His real life perspective on the statistics we rely on and how they can mislead is for anyone interested in gaining a more accurate view of their world. The book is written with a humorous and knowledgeable style that makes it great reading.--This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

Comprem e leiam O livro. protegam-se contra charlatões reinforçando seu conhecimento.

The Ugly American Stereotype:
written by Guest, January 31, 2005
Acting superior by knowing the answers to everything (boastful and arrogant), but uninformed.

Not wanting to share credit for accomplishments of joint efforts (think they know everything). Remember Von Braun and the space program?

Being unable or unwilling to respect and adjust to local customs and culture (insensitive), ignorant of other countries and cultures.

Preferring solutions based on their home cultures rather than meeting local needs (thinks every country should imitate the US).

Resisting working through local administrative, legal, channels and procedures (disrespectful of authority). Example, the American Airlines captain showing the “finger” to immigration officials in Brasil.

Managing in an autocratic and intimidating way (rude and immature).

Being too imposing and pushy and fatly overweight (drunkard, promiscuous and snobbish).

A culture based on Jerry Springer and Oprah Winfrey and flag worshipping (loud and obnoxious).

Unjustifiable John Wayne Warmongers (Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, El Salvador, Somalia, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq), just to name a few (racist and stingy).

Arrogance is so embedded in the American psyche that it blinds them to much of the reality of the rest of the world. That results in an American philosophy that places the United States at the center of the Universe, and everything else in the universe is good, bad or indifferent relative to America.

Unfortunately, 9/11 proves my point where innocent people had to die. So not to perpetuate this saga, clean your house first before worrying about ours at which point, you may have more credibility, and rid yourself of any preconceived notions.

Like the old saying…If You Can't Say Something Nice, Don't Say Anything At All!

Good day…
HR professionals should be given voice
written by Guest, January 31, 2005
I believe most brazilians are iliterate. Having worked in Human Resources area, it's astounding the number of candidates, some of them even holding a diploma from some spurious university, who lack the ability to write simple letters. That was not noted only by me, so I think there should be some scientifical investigation among these professionals. I'm sure the number of iliterate would be dramatically higher, for I was not the only one who has noticed the problem, nor was it noted just where I live.
In addition, considering a person who owns a TV set as not living in a shantytown is another big problem.
C'mon guys, the statistics vary a lot, official statistics consider that 18% of Rio metro population lives in shantytowns, other consider that more live on them. Anyway, 18% is already too much, yet more considering that Rio metro has 11 million people living, and yet more when you consider that the state is the second rich in the country. And really, a lot of cities in the states of Tocantins, Mato Grosso, Piauí, Maranhão, Ceará among others look entirely as a shantytown. An independent source would surely point a very high number too, though I don't believe the numbers would vary so much at this point. Official statistics often point out a lesses number though, than the ones collected by NGO's
Allright, some of the points in "Re: Look around" were anedoctal evidence. But Brazil having 11% of the murders in the world is not. And that fact alone should worry us a lot. You can forget all that I have said before, for I don't have any scientifical comprovation for them, and attain to this fact. Again, official statistics point out that Brazil is almost a paradise, except for the very high number of killings and kidnappings. Sure, many people don't count on the police. They do nothing in some cases and very little in others. And that's proven scientifically too. Less than 1% of the killing cases in São Paulo is solved, being that more than 50% were killed by someone in the friendship circle. The sources are out there. We have heard a lot about them and they were even in Globo Reporter. It's not a proof that they do nothing. But it's a strong evidence.
In addition, it's part of the critical sense doubt the way the data was collected for statistics, and that applies specially to official sources.
ficar calado
written by Guest, January 31, 2005
O Ugly american stereotype escreveu isso

"Like the old saying…If You Can't Say Something Nice, Don't Say Anything At All!"

Se isso for seguido então o progresso não chegara pois muitas vezes é preciso dizer algo que não seja do agrado de muitas pessoas para efetuar uma mudança positiva. O argumento é que se deve fundamentar o que se diz com fontes e explicar um argumento com clareza e logica.

Eu discordo com essa pessoa que pinta um quadro tão negativo dos americanos. Na minha percepção os americanos são normalmente diretos o que pode chocar quem não esta acustumado com isso. Eu prefiro isso por exemplo do que a versão açucarada de dizer algo dos frances que tbm tem o pessimo habito de se estender numa explicação por + tempo do que o necesario pois usam palavras demais. Claro que eu não estou afirmando que essa é uma tendencia pois estou apenas relatando experiencias pessoais que tive com americanos e franceses e o que escrevi deve ser olhado por essa otica. O artigo do Ftizpatrick, ja que ele não menciona fontes nem dados tbm deve ser alvo do mesmo skepticismo.
realmente os profisionais de recursos humanos raramente são consultados quando se propõe uma politica para a educação. O que é uma grande perda pois eles estão nas trincheiras na guerra por melhorar a educação devido as situações reais por que passam quando interagem com a população que busca emprego. As vezes acho que o brasil é muito academicista. Deve ser coisa herdada dos franceses que fundaram universidades aqui. Outro chute meu.
usando chavões para não pensar
written by Guest, January 31, 2005
Like the old saying…If You Can't Say Something Nice, Don't Say Anything At All!"

Se isso for seguido então o progresso não chegara pois muitas vezes é preciso dizer algo que não seja do agrado de muitas pessoas para efetuar uma mudança positiva. O argumento é que se deve fundamentar o que se diz com fontes e explicar um argumento com clareza e logica.

Outro chavão que ja escutei que que um jogador de futebol esta jogando mal por que agora ganha muito dinheiro e não tem a mesma disposição de quando era pobre e tinha que pegar duas conduções para ir treinar.
Ou seja para provar isso é preciso verificar se
1. Uma renda pequena faz com que alguem se esforçe + nos treinos de futebol.
2,. Se pegar duas conduções para chegar ao treino ajuda o atleta a ser um melhor jogador de futebol.

Se isso for verdade então eu vou me livrar de todo o dinehro que ganho alem de 1 salario minimo e tentar pegar 3 conduções para treinar nos onibus + lotados que encontrar para re-inforçar meu consição de pobreza. Assim serei recompensado anos + tarde quando assinar um contrato milionario com um clube de futebol.
Are Brazilians blind?
written by Guest, February 01, 2005
NO,JUST IN DENIAL
written by Guest, February 01, 2005
And that is understandable. Put yourself in their situation : Here you are doing your best to believe in progress, fighting all these things that handicap you, like a corrupt government, beaurocracy and endless discussions that lead to absolutely nothing...What would you do if someone threw mud at you while you're swimming against the current ?
Seriously, without their faith, they'd never be able to go through all this. Breaking that faith may seem only rational to you, but I'd really like to see you go through what they go through and come out with a smile on your face and a positive attitude. That's pretty much what it is to be Brazilian right now and you have to give them that.
book titles
written by Guest, February 01, 2005
I have got the name of a book that is being usefull to me from this discusion so i don´t think the discusion is useless.
Convincing people to learn how to read data and thus be able to reach conclusions that will helt them with their problems is not a task that can be achieved overnight yet i think it is one worth pursuing.
book titles
written by Guest, February 01, 2005
I have got the name of a book that is being usefull to me from this discusion so i don´t think the discusion is useless.
Convincing people to learn how to read data and thus be able to reach conclusions that will helt them with their problems is not a task that can be achieved overnight yet i think it is one worth pursuing.
Different Perspectives
written by Guest, February 01, 2005
Personally I like John’s articles and I would say he is far more moderate with his criticisms than many Brazilian journalists such as Carlos Chagas…..whom I also read with great interest.

John may be considered a foreigner but I know from my own experiences of living in other countries that an outsider often gauges the situation very differently because of his/ her exposure to other/ different cultural persuasions and methods.

From my experiences of Brazil and being married to a Brazilian wife I would say that a lot of what John writes is fair comment and his views and perspectives are similar to what I have experienced in Brazil and what my wife and Brazilian friends speak about among themselves.
Sometimes I just sit back and wonder...
written by Guest, February 01, 2005
I read the articles on this site daily. Not because I am an "Ugly American" as would I am lead to understand from the writings above based on my geographics. (I was born in the US but have chosen to reside in Canada).

But because I care and need to learn and understand. Because I cannot put a fence around a piece of land and think that my world is good because what happens inside this "fence" is safe and good. I believe there really should not be boundaries between countries. We all live here, together. So, what does my diatribe mean?

Simply, how much more can be accomplished (even if only through awareness) if the people (as a first step) on this site remove the anger and discrimination regarding "Ugly Americans" and the outrage regarding what "people think about Brasil" and try to discuss the issues?

We are all on one planet and yes:

1) There are huge amounts of ignorant ugly americans, and
2) There is a huge disparity between the ease in which I live and those of so many others, (note: I am not a rich person, just "middle class" but yes I know that entitles me to a very comfortable, in comparison, life) and
3) There are HUGE and yes seemingly "unfixable" issues with Brasil's socioeconomic class system, but...

How can you expect Ugly Americans to listen or care or even become less-Ugly Americans if these sometimes insightful discussions become entrenched in "name calling", anger and judgements?

When was the last time you opened your heart and mind to a person that was telling you how horrible you are?

Please help me understand....
understand
written by Guest, February 01, 2005
Understand that many readers here just want fitzpatrick to name the sources of his comments. I do not think it is honest to exagerate a problem . It just leaves brazil with an image that does not correspond to reality. That is all. if some people engage in name calling that does not pertain to the subject of fitzpatrick making random assertions about brazil.I want plain scrutiny over what the writes in www.brazzil.com post here. Scrutiny is celebrated in north america why does it suddenly become an insult here?
Let\'s see
written by Guest, February 02, 2005
OK...Let's all come out and say it, perhaps it will make us all fell better. Brasil is a dangerous, corrupt, morally corrupt country filled with villans, losers, commies, cannabils, and witchdoctors. We have peope that live in the streets, and one writer who claims he is from Brasil compares NY with the favelas. Sao Paulo is a s**t hole, Rio is a s**t hole, we have child prostitution and 21st century slaves. Our infustructure is decrepit and we have no money to repair it, we are anti-American, and pro communist, we live in fear of kiddnapping and stray bullets, our children can not read or write, and our President is probably one of them...so there I have said it all. Now what good does it do? These are decades old problems...The question is, and the articles that should be posted are ones that stimulate positive feedback in regards to improvement. For those who continue to read only with the purpose of showing how much better and smarter they and their country are...then you will find plenty of fodder on this forum, to vent your vulgarities and critisizm...congratulations. For those that are interested in a better Brasil, insist that the authors of these articles present solutions. The majority of our population gets by just fine thank you. Just because our ideas of life may not be the same as an American or European, don't think it is wrong. I prefer churrasco to a hot dog, samaba to country western, and a VW Golf to a BMW, I respect those who feel differently, you should show some respect because we don't want to be Americans or Europeans. While the day may never come where Brasil can actually say "we made it". I know the day will never come when America stops trying to make everyone an American.
The above post
written by Guest, February 02, 2005
tha above post once again makes random statements without giving sources. The person should understand that this is the first step to scrutinizing information so to find out if it is true and how it may be usefull. Why is this so hard to understand????????
@Let\'s see
written by Guest, February 02, 2005
Why does everything always have to be about the Americans? Here we are discussing a Scottish columnist who lives in Sao Paulo, and all of a sudden you´re bashing the US? A bit of penis envy there chap?
@Let\'s see...2
written by Guest, February 02, 2005

Hey ol'chap....let me tell you: What matters is not the size of the ship but rather the motion of the ocean!

You get a "F" for faggot.

Good day
After reading the last two entries, it w
written by Guest, February 02, 2005
For all those that feel capable and righteous in their derogatory comments did you ever think that:

Some of us North Americans don't want Brasilians to be anything BUT Brasilians?

That we DO NOT think that the general statements about drugs, prostituion, crime are representational of all Brasilians? In fact, some of us can see how ANY person can get involved in these things when there are no choices.... or you are very young....

That many of us try daily to reconcile our need to capture the very essence of Brasil, its peoples, the passions, the family, et.al.?

Do you know that I would give up all my "material stuff" in a second if I thought I could be in Brasil and be safe?

Do you know that for now the only reason I don't go there is because I had to make a choice regarding my personal safety and the place I really love?

Do you know I read this and other sites daily trying to understand, so that I can find my way to what YOU know! Yes, that is a generalization, but a positive one.

SO many of us non-Brasilians know that you have learned things we only wish to understand. When "we" go there and experience the people, whether in the markets, on the streets, in the bookstores, et al. it is a world beyond what "we" know. It is so hard for me to explain, but maybe, simply, there are SO many of us who don't see the bad in Brasil, we try and understand the bad things that are happening (and have happened).

Have you thought that maybe we know we have taken the easy route and stayed in places where our cars will be there when we return? Where I (a woman) can walk down any street at 2AM and not be afraid? Do you think we do not know that for this safety we lose the beauty and passions that are yours?

Sometimes it is NOT the bad that people focus on, yet thinking that (to me) sounds like an easier path for you (the writers above) than trying to understand that not all North Americans are as you describe. Some of us believe that you have more than we ever will have...
...
written by Guest, February 02, 2005
"You get a "F" for faggot."

That´s got to be one of the most most clever responses I´ve ever seen written on a blog..NOT

Parabens rapaz
Good questions
written by Guest, February 02, 2005
I am pleased that many North American's don't want us to be "anything other than Brasilian". Because Brasilians don't want to be North American. We appreciate the fact that you are intregued by our culture, but also respect the fact that you would not want to live here because of security, and crime problems. Certainly, we can not deny we have them. But the vast majority of Brasilians go about their day to day business, with great optimism, attitude, and love of our country. I find this Blog so interesting, as so many non - Brasilians are so interested in our country. And I would disagree, that we "have more than you ever will", you have so much more to be thankful for. But, this does not mean,, we still have many things to be thankful for, and we rasie loving, happy families, that think Brasil is a great place to be from. Boa Caranaval!
Good Answer!
written by Guest, February 02, 2005
Part of the resaon that I feel that Brasilians have more than many (most?) No Americans will ever have, is that with all the "not-so'perfect" things around them, as you write, "the vast majority of Brasilians go about their day to day business, with great optimism, attitude, and love of our country"

I have travelled a lot and no other country has left such emotion inside me. People ask me why Brasil? Why the Brasilians? and my answer is easy.

In the States, if a family has a loaf of bread they hide it, they share little pieces amongst themselves and hide the rest. Even when there are many more loaves to be had.

In Brasil, if a family has a loaf of bread, it is shared with all that enter their home. Even if there is no more bread when it is gone.

When visiting friends in Sao Conrado, I went with them to a meeting at a small church in the Rocinha. I waited outside. After the meeting the doors were opened. A small cake was served. A man (who I did not know) came to me and even though we did not speak the same language he TRIED to communicate with me (VERY unlike many No Americans...). He took me inside to meet his family and brought me a piece of the cake...

THIS was NOT an unusual story for me regarding my interactions with people in Brasil.

I can have "stuff" and I am safer (security-wise), but I do not get that kindness, that "give with out expecting something in return" society. Yes, I know that is a generalization, but it seems to be a very widespread way of being for the people of Brasil.

and gratitude... How many No Americans have SO much and want only one thing? More more more more.... SO many, so many....

It is the ability to remain happy even if things are "less than" what others have...

I am most grateful for having learned from the Brasilian people. I learned that I am not so much grateful for my "stuff" as it really counts for naught. I am SO profoundly grateful to have awareness and the evolving knowledge of what really matters.

This is just one North American who is grateful for becoming (even if in the most minute way) a little Brasilian. And yes I know that statement opens me up to a lot of critism, but it is the essence not the taking on of a natioanlity that I am writing.
helping those who help themselves
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
O brasil não deveria aceitar ajuda de nenhuma nação pois isso cria um cultura de "coitadinhos". Deveria exigir tratamento igual para setores de sua economia que são eficazes e são prejudicados pelos "bonzinhos" que so podem ver o brasil sobre o prisma de pais necesitado e não de nação com que precisam olhor olho no olho. Não perpetue uma mentalidade que nos relega a uma condição de inferioridade.

Kicking the subsidies

Third world farmers need a fair deal

Leader
Monday August 18, 2003
The Guardian

Developing countries are about to be sold down the river again and hardly anyone seems to care enough to do anything about it. It is now only a few weeks before the crucial World Trade Organisation (WTO) trade talks open in Cancun, Mexico, but they have become so bogged down in complexity and international stitch-ups (like last week's deal between the US and the EU) that real progress is unlikely. The risk of a walk-out by developing countries grows daily.
Let's get back to basics. Giving subsidies to farmers was a brilliant idea that transformed the food shortages after the second world war into a surplus. But it has grown into an institutionalised nightmare preventing developing countries from fulfilling their potential in one of the few areas where they enjoy a natural advantage - agriculture. Europe and the US are the main culprits. It is economic and social madness for Europe to be growing, for instance, subsidised sugar beet when its average cost of production is more than double that of efficient exporters such as Brazil and Zambia. It is only possible thanks to ludicrous subsidies, including protective tariffs of up to 140%. As Kevin Watkins of Oxfam says: "The $1.6bn a year the EU gives to the sugar barons of East Anglia and the Paris Basin generates surpluses that deprive countries such as Thailand and Malawi of markets. Mozambique loses almost as much as a result of EU sugar policy as it gets in European aid."

The US is no better. America's 25,000 cotton farmers received more than $3bn in subsidies last year, equivalent to 100% of the market value of cotton output. This works out at a staggering subsidy of $230 an acre. West Africa, one of the mostdeprived places on earth, happens to be one of the most efficient cotton producers, with an estimated 11 million people dependent on cotton as their main source of income. But it can't compete with subsidised products from the US, which has 40% of world exports. If subsidies were removed, West Africa, according to IMF figures, could produce profitably at two thirds of US production costs.

In this context it is premature to welcome last week's alleged breakthrough in negotiations between the US and Europe, which is regarded by Oxfam and others as reneging on the WTO aim to eliminate export subsidies. A joint commitment to cap the amount of direct payments to farmers to 5% of output sounds good. But it ignores the fact that there has been a parallel explosion of payments linked to other factors such as land ownership or past production levels. This merely preserves the featherbedding in a form less under the control of the WTO. Under this category comes the $180bn increase in spending on export credits and food aid by the Bush administration, which is regarded by fair trade lobbies as disguised dumping.

There is only one way to deal with this. Make it simple and effective. Abolish all agricultural subsidies so that every proposed reform doesn't generate new escape routes that negate its primary purpose. To this end, the Guardian is starting a new website today, aimed at kicking into oblivion all agricultural subsidies (http://kickaas.typepad.com). This is one of those rare topics that unites right and left. It is also one of the few remaining free lunches in economics from which practically everyone gains. It would galvanise developing countries' agriculture while freeing more than $300bn currently being spent by governments - over $200 per capita - every year on subsidies for other purposes. There will inevitably be transitional problems for some western farmers but nothing like the structural change other industries have experienced. And in the long run it will be of benefit to them, too. They will be able to grow crops they are good at rather than those attracting subsidies. All that the developing countries are seeking is a level playing field on which to compete. Is that too much to ask?

charge for the cake
written by Guest, February 03, 2005
i think the family who offered the american lady cake should have charged her for it. This is not an anti-american statement for it would be good for both sides. The brazilian family would not be burdened and both parteis would have to look at each other as equals. The " you are poor yet so generous" syndrome makes one party burdened to feel accepted and the other party feel as a superior being for being selected to provide self-esteem with their recognition of the cake offer.
Equals make best friends.
Cake: Missing the point.
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
You, the one who suggested charging for the piece of cake, missed the whole thing, completely.

Doing what that poor family did, giving a piece of cake to a stranger is called human compassion. They are a compassionate family living in a changing world, with most of people starting to think that compassion is outdated.

That poor family gave the stranger a piece of cake. They didn't asked him/her anything back. That's the way: Everything comes, everything goes.

I've seen lots of compassionate people in the USA also. It proves that it isn't the name of the country that defines the people living inside its borders, but the people themselves. Some say that the U.S. is full of arrogant and selfish people. Yes, this country is full of this kind of people, until you come here, live here and prove the contrary.
My piece of cake...
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
Yes, it was not a "business deal". The point (or my objective in sharing that story) is the gift came with no expectations, just a welcoming gesture. If I were to think in your terms, maybe I should have paid him to meet his family as well?

Yes, I could have gratuitously "paid" him, but that would (I believe) had been an insult. (Just so you know I would not have paid him... I do not like cake! *grin*)

Actually... with all the negative generalizations thrown around, it would be a very American thing to do, no? Charge for kindness? At least that is what I read here... Is it true? Probablt in a perecentage of Americans but....it was a Brasilian that thought of it and added it to this blog....

So maybe these generalizations are of less value then the authors presume? Hmmm global negativism. What an idea!
the cake debate
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
dear cake girl,
Why did you eat the cake if you do not like cake? Do you think you would have insulted the family? If so isn´t this somewhat patronizing as if the family can´t handle the simple fact that you don´t like cake? I think it proves me point. They offer you something to feel good about themselves because they are poor and you accept as to give them a certain permision to feel that way. The problem, it seems, with this families poverty is that they should charge people for what they produce and reap a economic benefit from their talents ( in this case making a cake). This would lead to real self-esteem that does not depend on others.
cake debate part 2
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
just out of curiosity cake girl are you a social worker in brazil? What do you do here? I hope this question does not make you feel uncomfortable. I am just curious.
Dear Mr. John Fitzpatrick
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
You never miss a good chance to shut up...It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt!

Now then....get the HELL out of Brasil....FDP.
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written by Guest, February 06, 2005
"Now then....get the HELL out of Brasil....FDP."

Another nationalistic turd swirling down the uncleansed porcelin bowl of some obscure boteco. If I had a real for every moment a debate ended in "so leave" I´d own a series of apartments in the Jardims. Is that really the best you can do?
speaking of butecos
written by Guest, February 06, 2005
Speaking of botecos has any heard of one called "bracarense" in rio. I think it is in ipanema or leblon, Well near to where the two neighborhoods border. I had some wonderfull cod fish puffs ( bolinhos de bacalhau) there a few years ago, the beer is awesome and the ambiance is family oriented. Plus it is the cleanest boteco i have ever seen with people enjoying their gooddies on the sidewalk under the rio sky. Friend of my was there recently and said the place is the same. bracarense is a rio institution. Would be nice if www.brazzil.com did a piece about that place.
Cake Girl? How funny!
written by Guest, February 06, 2005
Well I may have had many names before but never "Cake Girl"! I actually like it.

And speaking of liking things, I may not like cake and I did eat it, but not to give anyone permission to do or feel anything. I do not have that power.

I ate it because it was a gift bigger than a piece of cake. It was about being included and warmth and well... it was a gift that asked for nothing in return, And those (to me) are the greatest gifts of all.

They gave me a new hmmm... vision? I do not know if I have the word... but they opened my heart. And in opening my heart (and with the interactions I had so similar to that one while in Brasil...) well it created (for me) a great respect and love for Brasil and its peoples. I can never define it, but I DO KNOW the meaning of saudade now.... Does that answer your questions?

Maybe not, okay. What did that family get from me? Probably nothing (I cannot know that). They would likely have had just as wonderful a day as they did, with or without me. It is the energy and gifts they gave the changed the day ( and in part life) of at least one other person on this planet.

To the other writer:
Am I a social worker in Brasil? No... I only wish I knew how to become one!

Um beijo,
Cake Girl

(*grin*)
The state has failed...
written by Guest, February 06, 2005
...everywhere, and that includes here in the good old USA, where we have a form a quasi-capitalism that might best be described as a mixture of cronyism and socialism with just a modicum of economic freedom left, just enough that we can pretend we are still true capitalists.

The one thing that governments everywhere, Brazil and the US included, can do that would solve poverty is the ONE thing they won't do: go away and let me people go about their business. History is clear: the closer you are to one end of the spectrum (Soviet-style communism) the poorer you are, and the closer to the other (Hong Kong as it was before China took over), the richer. Ask yourself how poor or rich you are, then ask yourself, where do you fall no the spectrum?

Either you can see the correlation, or you can't.
social cake girl
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
How hard is to learn how to become a social worker in Brazil? I hope you do not become a social worker. I hope the family you visited never has to relly on you. This is not against you but best wishes for the family whose daughter. if they have one, can one day go to the united states and patronize people the way you do. If it were your father giving cake away to someone while your family was in need i am sure you would think to yourself " daddy, why are you doing this? why must i see myself as a self-esteem slave to someone". But i guess it makes you feel good " cake girl". We thoufg do not exist to make you feel usefull. Grow up
Don´t open up your heart cake girl
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
Don´t open up your heart cake girl. Go back to being the white anglo saxon protestant you have always been. By the way before you go back to the united states and do that pay back the family for the cake and for making you feel like you could be any different. Be realistic, pay a fair price for the sensation. The return to your usual wasp self.
yeah
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
.
the daughter
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
Can you imagine how the daughter of the guy who gave the cake away must feel? I have so little and this bitch comes over and id treated like a princess while in my own country i am treated bad while she is treated well and if i ever grow to be an adult and am not assasinated and imigrate to america i will be treated like a possible prostitute by her and her people. Cake girl you are an idiot with priviliges. return to your country. We are not here to help you> By the way, if you are so caring, have you even bothered to learn how to speak portuguese? You are a pathetic child.
*Grin*
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
I almost did not reply because the above statements are completely ludicrous! How it seems that your ferocious anger has apparently limted your understanding... If I didn't want to understand so much how you became so jaded, I would have to become as cynical as yourself.

1) If my Dad were to offer a stranger cake (even where we were to "need" it), I would be happy. I would learn to share. I would learn kindness through example. I might make a friend....

2) It is not a matter of "HOW" to become a social worker in Brasil that is difficult (of course that is simple!). It is a matter of being able. To be emotionally strong enough to face what you (or those that I would be asked to assist) face each day, and to try and make to make a difference, and not self-destruct. It is because I DO open my heart that (right now) I am of no use to those that I might otherwise have been of some help too. Simply, until I comprehend or in all honesty just try to begin to understand, I am not able...

Finally... If each of you take one minute to read your entries above, and then you consider why people (whether the US or Canada or wherever they are from) turn their backs and "close their hearts" to you, the answer may become a bit apparent....

If someone (me) cares enough to study, learn, try and understand, tries to open their hearts and minds, DO NOT judge or "use" you, why do you have a need to push them, swear at them, condemn them, judge them, be anything but open to them?

Hmmm... people wonder why I care so much about people in situations that are... well less-than-wonderful. Why I spend so much time trying to learn and help and care. And if I were to let you have enough power (which you have none) to sway me, if I were to react to your "attacks" it would be so easy to become what you so adamantly despise. A North American.

PS I speak English, French and Spanish. I am learning Portuguese....

Have a great day.
missing the point
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
"Finally... If each of you take one minute to read your entries above, and then you consider why people (whether the US or Canada or wherever they are from) turn their backs and "close their hearts" to you, the answer may become a bit apparent.... "

Nobody asked you to help. I think the question was if you are so moved why don´t you help. Nor did anyone emply that anyone should help regardless of where they are from ( united states, canada) the point was that you should pay for the cake. That is all. I wonder if you even know how to bake a cake. that is besides the point but being that cake was mentioned so often here it crossed my mind.
Do you offer cash...
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
to those that give you a gift?
cake, portuguese and english
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
Hello all,
Reading the post by "cake girl" reminded me of a website which is dedicated to comparative english-portuguese linguistics. The site cam be found at www.sk.com.br
if you type that address in and then once arriving at the site enter " discusion forum" you will find a group of people who help each other out when it comes to learning portuguese or english or both at the same time. Do drop by, post any doubts you may have in relation to english or portuguese and someone can help you, If you know the answers to a post then you can help them.
Bring cake.
cakeless boy
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
i think cake girl is attractive to cakeless boy ( the one who keeps nagging her). She just nags back. It is, like, marriage.
Cake girl shocked
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
Perhaps what was written about the whole cake thing actually rings true to cake girl and she is just too proud to admit it prefering to continue this patronizing behavior that does harm to others. It is a possibility isn´t it?
Problems have Solutions
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
We don't know Mr Fitzpatrick's intentions. I hope his intentions are to bring attention to problem. I don't Mr Fitzpatrick but I know many journalist in America and one of the ways that they help to start solving problems is to bring attention to the problem. I am in a community with many caring people and since reading his article we are working together to send assistance. If his article wasn't written many people in the world wouldn't be aware that the problems exist.
The future is here...
written by Guest, February 10, 2005
I am Irish, I have worked in Brasil for a number of years and married a Brasilian girl. We now live in Ireland. I largely agree with what Mr Fitzpatrick says about Brasil though I too would like to hear some kind words written every now and then. Brasil has many good things going for it.

As regards the economic and social problems of Brasil it's clear to me where the problem lies. Overtaxing businesses actually drives out companies and results in lower revenues. Government cronies and public sector workers and generally any one with clout gets a generous share of tax revenues while the private sector worker who pays the most actually ends up with the least. With no organization to push their case the private sector workers get screwed. No clout means no benefits.

So what to do? Actually all I've mentioned here perfectly mirrors what happened in my own country Ireland. High taxes led to high unemployment while the public sector squandered the taxes that were there. This resulted in mass emigration as frustrated workers and non-workers alike simply abandoned the country for a better life in either England, America or Australia.

But eventually the people at the top got the message as the pressure to reform became intense. A strategy of low corporate taxes and gradual lowering of personal taxes, increased education spending (especially in computers) led to a boom that continues to this day. Now from being a basket case Ireland is now the best country to live in according to the Economist. I hope no one thinks that I'm crowing about my country, I'm simply giving a history lesson that offers a good template for fixing Brasil's problems. I know that Brasil is much bigger and more complex than Ireland (pop 4 million) but it's not that difficult to see that many good lessons could be drawn from the Irish experience and applied in Brasil. It would certainly improve things in my opinion. It’s not rocket science, it simply requires a willingness from the elites to start this in motion. But as we all know that is the real problem.
what about the kids
written by Guest, February 10, 2005
after reading the artical by john my thorts were for the kids with cerabal palsy. but afer reading you coments i wonder if they have any hope at all. your all so preocupied about how you look to one another or how insulted you are. i wonder how many of you visted the site john mentioned? i wonder how many of those kids would love to tell you all to shut the f**k up. i wonder how many of them have had the pleasure of being offerd cake from a stranger. i wonder if anyone of you can look those kids in the eye and explaine to them the relevence of this pointless conversation. i wonder if you put as much effort into doing somthing for you country as you do in writing abusive comments to gringos who give a s**t then brazil might have somthing to offer the world other than samba and football oh and cake. nice one john as for the rest of you your f**king patthetic!
Let them eat cake!
written by Guest, February 10, 2005
There.
To: what about the kids
written by Guest, February 10, 2005
Generally, these kids are ignored - the middle and upper middle classes tend not to acknowledge their existance. They are, for lack of a better word, THE INVISIBLE.
...
written by Guest, February 10, 2005
then its up to people like us to make them visable again. john got the ball rolling lets give it a littel push
brasil is not too poor to handle these s
written by Guest, February 10, 2005
Getting back to the article and away from the cake controversy (by the way anyone who has spent any time in Rocinha knows that the family might not have been near as poor as one thinks), the Brazilian government is not too poor to pay for social programs nor to educate its people. If one does a little research they can find out that it has one of the highest tax collection rates in the world relative to GDP (look at the econonomist website), the problem is where this money goes. It mostly goes to support the government employed and thier cronies in what can only be described as a giant elitist welfare scam. This takes various forms such as civil service employees who get to retire with huge benefits after relatively few years working, or the bloated administration at most federal universities who go on stike half the time anyway, or military pensions that are passed down from one generation to the next so that thendependent never has to be productive a day in her life as long as she doesn´t marry. Brazil even has the money to educate its citizens the problem is Brazil has one of highest rate of proportional spending on university education vs elementary of anywhere in the world. What this does, is educate a few at the university level, where much of the future gains from this go to the individual and should be paid for more by the indivual, and takes money away from the k-12 levels where education more broadly benefits society as a whole by making the whole society more productive. The problem is not lack of money (Brazilians are already overtaxed they just don´t know it because most of those taxes are paid by companies either through sales, income tax or payroll tax (which by the way payroll taxes are 114% here as compared to the US where they are 9%), it is where this money is going. Reforming the goverment to get the leeches out would go along way freeing up money for more efficient use. Too bad do to vested interests this is more difficult than it would appear.
WASP comment
written by Guest, February 10, 2005
Regarding the wasp comment vc esta num site ingles. OS WASP ja GANHARAM, Otario
Brazil Just Like America
written by Guest, February 10, 2005
Is NOT interested in helping anyone who is not white and blonde with blue eyes. Most of the poor are black, Native American or mixed race so who cares?

It's called GENOCIDE, duh?
the wasp lover
written by Guest, February 11, 2005
"Regarding the wasp comment vc esta num site ingles. OS WASP ja GANHARAM, Otario"

Ingles é um idioma. WASP designa um grupo etnico e sua religião. So pra vc saber.
I miss the cake girl
written by Guest, February 11, 2005
lovely cake girl please return. Without you life is just plain diabetes.: william shakespeare ; Venus and adonis
Brazil just like America?
written by Guest, February 11, 2005
In my book genocide is Hiroshima/Nagasaki, El Salvador, Vietnam, and now Iraq. Hardly any Brazilian doing...
cake girl where are you?
written by Guest, February 12, 2005
do drop by
Cake Girl,
written by Guest, February 17, 2005
You meant well and that means a helluva
lot in this sh***y world.
A SHORT TALK ABOUT BRAZIL By Danilo Gala
written by Guest, July 28, 2005
Dear John Fitzpatrick, I'm from Brazil, and only God knows how I know about this country. You 'don't know the real Brazil, you just say "cliches" about it, I live in the most rich country in the world, believe me or not, we are the most rich country in the world! Why? I will tell you soon, the problems of Brazil are not Brazilians, a young country who was discovered in 1500 and became an exploration settlement of Portugal, which cruel domain killed milions of natives and stoled thousands of Tons of gold and products like Pau-Brasil ( the name of the country comes from this tree) and Silks, Dyes, Gems, lots of diamonds and many other things. After centuries being stoled, Brazil financed the British empire and the Industrialization of UK, just because the gold from Brazil was sent to Portugal and paid to England By the king of Portugal, that's true,you may find it in History books, so you must thank us because your wealth is our poverty!!! Finaly born in 1822, and to get it independence we made a Loan of 2 milions of british pounds ( in 1822, so calculate it in today's currency!!!) from UK (you must thank us again) to pay Portugal. We were not a settlement we were a colony, thats the first problem. Today Brazil is a great coutry and ,beside the problems ,we never lived so well here, we are becoming a developed country and our society is growing , it may sound strange to foreign people, I don't belive in half of your article, you are not neutral in yours ideas and the social idea here is the best and your great country of Scotland is not one place to be proud, you're dominated by anither nation, besides everything we have independence and a strong and smart youth who will rule this country to the future. Why Brazil is the richest country in the world? just because we are one the few countries in the world who have arable land yet, we have 25% of the fresh water in the world, whe have 95% of the Niobium wich price is around Trinlions of US dollars, we have the most amazing biodiversity in the world in the Amazonia ( where is hide the cure for many diseases) and we have so many richness but the biggest is our people who is the happiest in the world, but we still poor cause countries like yours keep your richness in our poverty...
...
written by Guest, July 28, 2005
My name IS DANILO GALATI !!!!!!
Acorda
written by Guest, August 01, 2005
Estou abismada com o ddio de alguns compatriotas ao artigo do senhor Fitz. O odio me lembra bate-boca de torcedores de um time de futebol brasileiro contra torcedor de outro time. mandar a pessoa embora do pais porque esta pessoa esta apontando alguns problemas sociais e cruel e infantil. E como o pai que manda o filho sair de casa porque ele nao concorda com a opiniao do pai. Eu sou brasileira e trabalhei como professora em bairros pobres e favelas por muitos anos e convivi com familias que viviam em estado de miseria. Querem fontes? Querem estatisticas, numeros? Pecam ao IBGE, Fundacao Getulio Vargas ou qualquer outra instituicao privada ou governamental. Eu nao precisei de numeros para me indignar com a mesma realidade que o senhor Fritz constatou. Ela estava na minha sala de aula, no patio da escola, no caminho da minha casa ate as favelas. Querem fontes: Eu sou uma fonte. Eu dei aula para criancas que as vezes desmaiavam na sala de aula de fome; outras colocavam sangue pelo nariz de doenca, outras mal aguentavam esperar a hora do recreio para merendar ; ouras levavam pedacos de carne de frango estragada jogados por um matadouro na beira de um rio; outras compartilhavam a mesma escova de dente com toda a familia. Eu doi muitos materiais escolares e de uso pessoal para meus alunos que foram comprados com o meu proprio salario que ja era pequeno. Era o minimo que eu podia fazer por eles.
Se voce andar nas ruas das cidades brasileiras, voce vera familias e criancas pedindo dinheiro e comida o tempo todo.
Muitas vezes, eu estava num barzinho em Belo Horizonte e vi alguns rapazes zombando e tirando proveito de meninas e meninos que vendiam flores e amendoim nas mesas. O cinismo deles era cruel.
Nos, brasileiros, temos que aprender a ver os nossos erros e buscar formas de soluciona-los.
Acorda
written by Guest, August 01, 2005
Estou abismada com o ddio de alguns compatriotas ao artigo do senhor Fitz. O odio me lembra bate-boca de torcedores de um time de futebol brasileiro contra torcedor de outro time. mandar a pessoa embora do pais porque esta pessoa esta apontando alguns problemas sociais e cruel e infantil. E como o pai que manda o filho sair de casa porque ele nao concorda com a opiniao do pai. Eu sou brasileira e trabalhei como professora em bairros pobres e favelas por muitos anos e convivi com familias que viviam em estado de miseria. Querem fontes? Querem estatisticas, numeros? Pecam ao IBGE, Fundacao Getulio Vargas ou qualquer outra instituicao privada ou governamental. Eu nao precisei de numeros para me indignar com a mesma realidade que o senhor Fritz constatou. Ela estava na minha sala de aula, no patio da escola, no caminho da minha casa ate as favelas. Querem fontes: Eu sou uma fonte. Eu dei aula para criancas que as vezes desmaiavam na sala de aula de fome; outras colocavam sangue pelo nariz de doenca, outras mal aguentavam esperar a hora do recreio para merendar ; ouras levavam pedacos de carne de frango estragada jogados por um matadouro na beira de um rio; outras compartilhavam a mesma escova de dente com toda a familia. Eu doi muitos materiais escolares e de uso pessoal para meus alunos que foram comprados com o meu proprio salario que ja era pequeno. Era o minimo que eu podia fazer por eles.
Se voce andar nas ruas das cidades brasileiras, voce vera familias e criancas pedindo dinheiro e comida o tempo todo.
Muitas vezes, eu estava num barzinho em Belo Horizonte e vi alguns rapazes zombando e tirando proveito de meninas e meninos que vendiam flores e amendoim nas mesas. O cinismo deles era cruel.
Nos, brasileiros, temos que aprender a ver os nossos erros e buscar formas de soluciona-los.
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