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How Christ Met Marx in Brazil PDF Print E-mail
2005 - February 2005
Written by Augusto Zimmermann   
Thursday, 03 February 2005 20:22

Karl Marx and the Catholic church in BrazilAlthough Brazil has a great number of religious denominations, about seventy-five percent of its population profess to be Roman Catholics. This makes of Brazil the largest Catholic nation in the world.

Unfortunately, the history of Catholicism in this country has historically involved condemnation of liberal democracy as well as of entrepreneurs as 'parasites' enriching themselves at the expense of the poor.

Regardless of current change in terms of ideological outlook, many Catholics of this country still retain the old distrust of individual liberty.

In colonial times, the usually corrupt and lax of morals Roman Catholic clergy enthusiastically supported the domination of sugar-planters. Priests were not only their main political allies, but also strong adherents of the slavery system as well.

This adherence was not only expressed by means of theological justification for slavery (they argued that Afro-Brazilians did not have human soul), as the Church itself was directly involved in the economic exploitation of its vast properties through the institution of slavery. In fact, the Catholic Church was the largest landholder and slave-owner back to those times. 

After Brazil's independence from Portugal, in 1822, the Catholic Church would be subject to direct control of the Brazilian Imperial government. There was much flaunting of independence from Rome.

The Vatican's desire for direct line of authority to the Brazilian church was seen, not only by the government but also by most churchmen, as unduly interference by the Holy See in the affairs of the state.

When the Republic was proclaimed, in 1889, the Catholic Church was finally separated from the state and assured with a range of religious freedoms from political interference.

Ironically, Catholic radicals are now associated with radical political movements, for this Church has now acquired in Brazil a profoundly socialistic orientation.

For the elimination of 'evils' and 'social contradictions' that they see only in capitalism, many priests are entirely convinced that the current democratic system needs to be replaced by another constitutional structure that would allow the state to intervene in every aspect of our individual, social, political, and economic lives. The ideology to guide the functioning of this structure is based on Marxism, which is naturally far removed from authentic Christianity.        
 
In Brazil, many Catholic theologians have advocated the totally false premise that personal freedom might be achieved through revolutionary socialism. The enormous quantity of revolutionary literature on liberation theology in this country clearly indicates the growing discussion of violence and revolution as class struggle analysis involving the glorification of the poor and vilification of the rich.

Since these theologians identify religiosity with class struggle, and the 'poor' with 'revolutionary proletariat', their basic struggle is therefore for the replacement of the current democratic legal order by violent means. Many priests in Brazil like to lament poverty but are eager to promote the economically destructive idea that owning property is sinful.

Influential members of the Catholic Church in Brazil have recently lobbied at the Vatican for the “important work that the base communities inspired by liberation theology are carrying out in the country”.

When the Pope John Paul II called friar Leornado Boff to explain his quite bizarre concept of an “ecclesiastical division of labour” in which the hierarchy of the church would engage itself in “the expropriation of the means of religious production from the Christian people”, two Brazilian cardinals supported him during the interrogation.

In 1987, the same Boff declared that communist regimes like the Soviet Union offered “the objective possibility of living more easily in the spirit of the Gospels and of observing the Commandments”.  

Although the penetration of Marxist ideas in the Catholic Church might be justified on account of socio-economic exploitation, such Catholic priests are utterly blind to postulate the exchange of one kind of exploitation for another that is one thousand times worse.

According to Stephane Courtois, the editor of a fundamental book called Le Livre Noir du Communisme (“The Black Book of Communism”), at least 100 million people were killed by Marxist regimes only in the last century.

Therefore, disciples of Marx like Brazilian Catholic priests have been far more efficient at the 'art' of killing innocent people than at promoting any form of social justice.

From the standpoint of Realpolitik it is not a mistake to affirm that the class genocide promoted by Marxist regimes may be easily compared to Nazism's race genocide.

And probably for this and several other reasons Adolf Hitler once declared at a famous speech in Munich that “basically National Socialism and Marxism are the same”.  

Recently, the Brazilian Conference of Catholic Bishops (CNBB) published a document which declares the Marxist-oriented liberation theology as not only timely but also “useful and consistent with the Gospel”.

If so, we might suggest that such 'gospel' is called 'Das Kapital' and has been written according to Karl Marx. For the role played by these Catholic priests and theologians very much resembles that of Father Gapon at the beginning of the Soviet Revolution.

In a few words, what these priests are doing is to gradually turn the religiosity of ignorant people away from real Christianity, as a Marxist strategy for the ultimate destruction in this country not only of the Catholic faith but also of democracy and the rule of law.

In a society which is overwhelming Catholic, both in culture and 'spirit', such infiltration in the Church constitutes a much serious menace for the already uncertain future of democracy in Brazil.

Augusto Zimmermann is a Brazilian Law Professor and PhD candidate for Monash University – Faculty of Law, in Australia. The topic of his research is the (un)rule of law and legal culture in Brazil. He holds a LL.B and a LL.M (Hons.) from the Pontifical Catholic University of Rio de Janeiro, and is a former Law Professor at the NPPG (Research and Post-graduation Law Department) of Bennett Methodist University, and Estácio de Sá University, in Rio de Janeiro. His email address is: augustozimmermann@hotmail.com.



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Marxism = Atheism
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
If you teach Marxism and claim to be Christian, you are just defrauding your listeners!
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written by Guest, February 04, 2005
The resurgence of theological tendencies in both Americas and elsewhere more resembles fascism than "socialism" and the so-called "Marxist" regimes that have continually lapsed into violence are all flawed by the lingering notion that goods and services MUST be exchanged for some medium, whether currency, bartered goods, etc. Show me a civilization that has NO concept of "money" "wealth" and which society does not hang a price tag on everything in sight. Where all lands and resources are commonly held...oh waitaminute!

Indiginous people live this way!

So the problem would appear to be the infestation of indigenous populations, their land and the blatant theft and corruption of their governments and resources by WHITE MAN that has screwed things up for 78% of the world.

Christianity and hence, Catholocism was invented by WHITE MAN. It was corrupted in the 4th Century by Constantine who excised women from the church, recast the one true" "GOD" in a Paternalistic role and unleashed unbridled testosterone-driven violence and bloodshed on the world. It's starting up again and this indeed, IS disturbing. It's happening in the U.S. and South America.
meu deus
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
traditional catholics and protestants of all denominations should join together with the evangelicals in an effort to counter this ludicrous marxist-christian ideology.
A great institution.
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
I was baptized Catholic and attended a couple of Catholic Schools ( called, Colegio Interno in Brasil ) and one in the United States when I was a young boy. The Brasilean sisters would pull your ear really hard when they felt you deserved it or not and even give a good spanking with no hesitation or remorse. I can still remember the smell of burned rice at the school lunch. Luckily for me, I'm free to choose any religion(s) were I can worship and its not at a church who practices teaching the poor how to stay poor and have more children then they can properly affort to raise, possibly one of many more reason so many homeless children are in the streets of Brasil. Maintaing the poor and ignarant followers at the door step of poverty and handouts from the churchs with hope that as long as they follow the words of the church that situations will get better for them has not proofed resurection to a better life for million of souls around the world. That may well explain the high poverty and miserable condition in Brasil, taking from the less fortune it ones and giving it to the wealthy property owners and "corrupt" politicians in the name of religion just doesn't seem like it's been working or ever will.
After so many children, mostly boys stating that they have been raped by Catholic priest, I'm not sure how anyone can trust such institution. The Catholic church should use their great wealth in a better manner then fighting the cases, paying lawyers big dollars for defending and cleansing the wrong they have done for centuries.
Teaching poor to stay poor
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
The poor stay poor when they have a socialist government. I'll take prosperity over a "cesta basica" (Brazil) or food stamps (USA) any day! Catholics don't have a monopoly on Marxist "churches". The World Council of Churches and National Council of Churches are Communist fronts.
That\'s Bull S*%@ and you now it.
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
Nothing against any Religiao.
Have you been to Misissippi, Louisiana, Alabama, parts of Florida and southern Texas? Just to mentioned a few states in the richest democracy on earth. Some areas are just like the third world similar to Rocinha shanty town or the ones in Bahia or Fortaleza with out running water and dirt floors. Lets face it, follow the money and you'll find corruption. The UN has a case going on as we write this email; Petroleum for Food. While the politicians are eaten file mignon the poor are eating marisco, farinha and aqua. If it wasn't for religion beliefs we may not have so many wars going on around the world, mostly in poor countries defending different beliefs. it's the 21st century, who care about communist, even China is turning to capitalism faster then Brasil can sell and grow food for them.
It\'s called a choice
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
I live in GEORGIA, dude! Some people live in TRAILERS because they choose to! The dirt floor, running water crap is just a lie! Some millionaires live in trailers and drive old trucks. After their parents lived through the Great Depression in the 1930s, they think you can never have too much ready money.
Comunists under the bed
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
Once again Mr Zimmermman takes things out of context to simply disseminate his own extremist doctrines. When taken individually, his assertions are mostly correct. But Mr Zimmermmann then bundles them all up, strips the historical and geographical context off each one of them. His beloved Montesquieu, in the “Spirit of the Laws”, writes that “'it is impossible for us to suppose these creatures [referring to black Africans; my note] to be men, because allowing them to be men, a suspicion would follow that we ourselves are not Christians”. So, it is true that the Church had little regard for the African people, but it was a universal (and sickening) concept then. It is also true that the Marxist theory permeated the “Teologia da Libertacao” (Theology of Liberation), but a critical reading on the subject, within the historical and social context of its origins, takes us to the politically divided world of the 60s and 70s and the “preference for the poor” professec by Latin American bishops (for a references on the topic see http://www.providence.edu/las/theology.htm; read also http://www.achegas.net/numero/dois/a_cabral.htm).
FREEDOM IN CHRIST
written by Guest, February 04, 2005
To the person who made the idiotic statement that Christianity is a white male religion:

Jesus Christ had several women as friends, followers, and supporters. He saved a woman from being stoned to death, and appeared for the first time after His resurrection to women.

In Christ, all barriers of prejudice are broken, including xenophobic nationalism (Greek or Jew), religious intolerance (circumcised or uncircumcised), racism (barbaric or civilized), social discrimination (slave or free), and, last but not least, sexual discrimination (men or women). According to the statement of freedom given by Christianity: “There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave or free, male or female, for you are one in Christ Jesus” (Gal 3:2smilies/cool.gif.

In reality, the Western culture of Christianity is the only one in the entire world where women have tasted equality with men. “Because we all stand on equal ground before God, Christianity gives basis for social and political equality”.

If Christianity is true, the individual, male or female, is not only more important but incomparably more important than the social body. This might explain, in Charles Colson’s opinion, “why Christianity has always provided not only a vigorous defence of human rights but also the sturdiest bulwark against tyranny”.

On the other hand, the blind faith of feminism does not allow its believers to understand that if it were not for male inventiveness and spirit of tolerance in the West, AND ONLY IN THE WEST, they would not have the chance to engage themselves in ‘conscious-rasing’ against men.

According to Tammy Bruce, “it would be worthwhile for the women to realise that it is the actions and choices of men during the past forty years that have helped women succeed in [their] fight for equity… Certainly, activism on the part of the unenfranchised can influence those in power… But without those in power choosing to make a difference, nothing would ever happen… Men voted to give women the vote. Men acted to change the world, so women could act with them”.
Finally the Truth
written by Guest, February 04, 2005

Dom Thomás Balduíno, the Bishop Emeritus of Goiás, has recently declared:

“The current pope is a Pole who struggled against communism. He is from a very closed, clerical, masculine, structure church. When we were beginning to open up [to communism], he came in and forced us backwards… On the other hand, we can say that not absolutely everything depends on hierarchy… There is a living force, not only inside the Church but throughout the whole world, which is a liberation journey. The journey of women, of ecology, of the Earth.”

Bishop Balduíno also declared that violent invasion of private property constitute a ‘natural’ reaction against the oppression of free-market capitalism.

The ‘Pastoral of the Land Commission’ (CPT) has since its creation in 1975 supported violent invasion of lands in the countryside. On September 7, 2003, the President of the ‘National Conference of Brazilian Bishops’ (CNBB) and Archbishop of Salvador, Geraldo Majella, praised the CPT and other social groups for creating a “pressure cooker that is about to explode”.

According to Archbishop Majela, social conflicts show that the country needs to be “radically transformed”, although nothing is mentioned about doing this through legal (and pacific) means.

Of course, these bishops are Marxists in rebellion against the Pope John Paul II, who made this speech on 26th November 2002 in front of these very Brazilian Bishops on his visit to the country a few years ago:
“To attain social justice, much more is required than the simple application of ideological schemes derived from class struggle such as, for example, the invasion of lands – already condemned in my Pastoral Trip of 1991 – and of public or private buildings, or, to mention only this, the adoption of extreme technical measures like that can have much graver (and socially unjust) consequences than the injustice they are meant to resolve”.

Tell me something I don\'t know
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
Mr Zimmermann, in his posting “Finally the Truth”, talks about Bishop Balduino, the 81 year old National President of the Church's Pastoral Land Commission. In an interview to Jornal do Brasil in 2003, Dom Tomas makes his position very clear: “It is our judicial system which is still anti-reform. We are within our rights when we organize, but some little judge, or big judge, considers us to be an illegal gang. [Dom Tomas is talking about the MST; my note] There are various ways to interpret the law, but one thing should be clear: in the last 11 years there have been 976 rural workers assassinated, including adolescents and children. To date, there have only been 56 trials, and only 7 convictions. Of these seven, two are at-large. So out of nearly 1,000 murders, only 5 are in prison. No further comment necessary.” (see http://www.brazzillog.com/2003...5oct03.htm for the complete interview).

It is unfortunate that this PhD candidate, who researches the “(un)rule of law and legal culture in Brazil”, uses this vehicle of communication at the same level as some of the people, that for example, write inflammatory anti-American, or anti-Lula, or anti-this and anti-that comments on this site. No solutions, no content; simply a narcissistic dislike for everything that do not conform to his view of the world.
I do not agree with the position of Dom Tomas and the MST; moreover, I do see that, yes, the Marxist philosophy has permeated much of the struggle for “social justice” in Brazil. But this “denouncing” of the Marxist priests is empty and offers no concrete solution for the (un)rule of law in Brazil, mirroring Archbishop Majela's comment (which he quotes). Honestly, I expected more.
CPT?
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
CPT sounds like confederação dos petistas. I hope we cam remove marx from christianity once and for all. Marx hated the rich, hated the poor, hated the ideia that humans sould live under a system of livre arbitrio.
The problem with brazilians...
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
I don't know where this vision comes from. But the problem with brazilians is that one can not criticize anything. Everyone needs to be a specialist and point out solutionsm and that obligation is even bigger when the person is a PhD. That's why, I think, every brazilian to whom one talks to knows all the answers to every problem, otherwise they shall not be heard.
The brazilian way of thinking is plenty of reality-avoiding escapes. When someone criticizes anything that goes wrong, people use to ask you if you have money to change it, or tell you: "Alright, so you have the solution for all the problems of the world". Test it. You'll get at least 90% of people doing that, that's for sure. The brazilians abuse of falacies everytime and most of them are unable to sustain a simple discussion about any problems. They are often accomodated and are conformed to the fact that it could be even worse. Of course, there are exceptions, but they are, sadly, a minority.
The above poster is a clear example of that. He says the author is right for everything. But he wants the man to be a specialist. How dare, he says, the author criticizes brazilian problems without pointing out solutions!? This man shouldn't be given voice, as he cannot say that a situation is terrible because he is not a specialist and cannot tell us how to solve the problem! That sounds like someone who is accessing a slow website claiming it's too slow, and the maintainer tells this use that he cannot say anything if he doesn't know how to solve it. C'mon!
Finally, before some other brazilian claims that I must not be taken into consideration because I'm not brazilian and I don't know the reality around here and hence have no credibility at all, I must say: Yes, I'm a brazilian!
They\'re racist too
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
Substitute "American" for "N***er" in old Ku Klux Klan literature and it will look like what Brazilians are wring in their blogs and "letters to the editor" about Americans
...
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
No one here wrote that Christianity is a white male religion. What I did write is that the church excised WOMEN from it in the 4th century and imposed their own violent, bloodsoaked version of "religion" which included torturing, beating and burning people at the stake to spread their "love." That woman have participated in this bloodshed is a travesty, but my point is that Christianity, at least as it is "practiced" in the USA is missing the softer, compassionate, feminine influence.
To my credible Brazilian friend
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
You are right. In my last posting ("Tell me something I don't know"), perhaps moved more by "reaction" than by "action", I focused too much on pointing out other's faults and failed to follow my own advice -- which is "give me a solution". However, we should make a distinction between two levels of opinion: the one from the likes like you and me, who are sensitive to the brazilian issues but may lack the legal expertise to analyze, in depth, the Constitutional standing of acts such land invasion; and the opinion from those who portray themselves as "specialists" in Constitutional law. From the former, I expect more than pointing out the problems we all know. As a scientist myself, I believe in (1) "being part of the solution" and (2) that the problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thought at which we were when they were created (Einstein said that, not me).

So, to foster dialogue, I ask what are your views on the matter, and what you would like to see implemented to solve it.

I am looking forward to your reply.
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written by Guest, February 05, 2005
Mr. Zimmermann's article reads like a term paper submitted by a young student who has not yet learned how to document his statements. Brasil is too large and diverse - and so is the Catholic Church, - to be painted "red" with one large brush stroke. Certainly priests and nuns who have worked intimately with the poorest of the poor in the favelas or agricultural rural areas may be energized to more aggressively address the desperate poverty all around them. Are there? / have there? been some movements towards living out liberation theology? For sure. The Gospels demand a radical response. To equate that with Marxism is not always correct.

However, this article and the broad unsubstantiated claims it contains tells me more about Mr. Zimmermann's views that the Catholic Church's views. "Some priets," Some Bishops," "Some views," would be a lot more acurate than the blanket condemnation of the work of the Catholic Church in Brasil as some big Communist conspiracy.

"Some people" should get a life and grow up. Not everything you hear that you disagree with,...not everything you see that bothers you is some big Marxist boggy man. And, if someone thinks we should team up with the Evangelicals, why not hitch our wagons to a big stone and drive over a cliff. They can be as doctrinare and intollerant as so called Marxists.

I saw "traditional" Catholicism in a number of forms when I lived in Brasil. They still believe the Protestants are going to Hell. These groups for the most part find their support in the wealthy guarded enclaves. Between these traditionalists and the clergy in the base communities, there is a great majority of men and women doing their best in difficult circumstances to live the Gospel and serve the people of God. My guess is they don't have much time for this political name calling.
Re: To my credible Brazilian friend
written by Guest, February 05, 2005
As I stated before... my views on the matter are that the author is absolutely right. For too long have the bishops embraced red tendencies and it's a fact that priests play a definitive role in brazilian countryside to turn people against land owners (not that they are saints however... anyone who knows the story of paraná or matogrosso should know that many were a bunch of butchers)
Anyway, i don't have the solution... I'm not a specialist. However, non-specialist people should have their right for saying that something is wrong, specially when they have proof of it, assured. That's what Mr. Zimmermann does.
In addition, one can see that american society itself, the most successful society by now, is run by specialists. As an example, the president of FED is not pointed by the president. He is a specialist, therefore must know what he's doing. He cannot be fired for political reasons. Anyway, people, and even the president must be able to point that something is wrong, to put pressure on the decision makers to make the situation better. It''s much different in Brazil. Everyone must point out a sollution, therefore we have all those all-know politicians. They try to solve everything their way, and see what crappy society we have today. And no one can say they are wrong, according to them, because people who say they are wrong can do not better...
If you are a scientist, I'm glad for you. Keep yourself to your science area, where you are a specialist and you must point a solution if you claim that something is wrong. The society is not science, however. Everyone must be given voice at least to say something is wrong. As I said in the previous post, the user of a slow website has the right to say it's slow without pointing out the solution, while in science it's and absurd that a geologist writes his opinions or impressions some theory about nuclear physics, unless he proves it's wrong and point out a solution. Those are two different matters.
You know what?
written by Guest, February 06, 2005
This is a prime example...religion is the root of the many evil found on planet earth. The instrument which allows some to demonize others and thus justifying their elimination.

I for one, not a devoted catholic at all, believe in respecting every religion and their believers. If some tribe in Africa believes that the moon is a God, so be it. They are happy and feel secure with that believe system then who am I to want to change?

Worship who ever you may but please, don't force your ideas upon me or others, and the world will certainly be a better place!
lies lies lies
written by Guest, February 06, 2005
i'm one brazilian zimmermann and this guy ashamed all my famyli with this stupid ideas about religion trouble in brazi i have one friend protestant one is from candomble others spitritist catholics an anione fight because this. i think the trouble is cause we have too many religions and peoples living inhere and we livin in peace with each other.we are not too stupid at the point to be on war because the religion os government sistem of the other people.the trouble is:wen you accept other religions you maybe can...accept other forms pf governments an you can begining to think the democraci is let the others live their lives in peace an love .
Response to my Brazilian Friend
written by Guest, February 06, 2005
Thank you! I believe you have started to touch the root of the problem; you stated that "Anyway, people, and even the president must be able to point that something is wrong, to put pressure on the decision makers to make the situation better. " That is exactly what these Marxist priests and their "sem terra" colleagues did. Again I am not supporting their actions, but they used land invasion and collectivism as a tool to put pressure on the decisions makers (and the people in general). That was the root of the "theology of liberation". So, WE KNOW that this is how they are approaching the problem. Now, if you go back to your statement, it seems that you believe that their actions are wrong; YOU have to empower yourself to exert the pressure on the decision makers so that (1) land invasions do not have to hapen; and (2) however, if they happen, that society is able to deal with it rationally. It as very little to do with religion or even Marxism.

In my opinion, your very simple assertion (quoted above) has much more power and widespread use than thousands of the empty and many times biased words of Mr. Zimmermann.

Now, go and make it happen.
Religion stinks
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
... and I would say more, "...religion stinks!!!"
evil
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
could it be that catholicism and christianity came from and is an invention by a sneaky evil tribes? so sneaky that carl marx's real name is Mordechai Levy!!
No wonder why Iraq or the middle east does not want to be controlled by these evil people who control europe the americas and asia. world bank chosen swindlers!!
To Blame it on the White MAN
written by Guest, February 12, 2005
Im sure you were taught this lesson in some woman or ethnic studies class at Blame It On Whitey U, but your comment about indigenous people all living together with common land holdings and no concept of wealth is completely wrong. I think you are misusing indiginous when you should be using primitave hunter gatherers. After all Incans, Myans, Aztecs were indiginous yet all had socieities in there own ways as advanced as those evil doer whities in europe, with land ownership, bartering and even forms of money. And to think they did this all on there own without the help of the honkies. Not to mention almost every other societies that had advanced out of the stone age and beyond hunting and gathering. The only time a society can function with no ownership rights is when it is small enough group that everybody knows one another and there is enough land for people to live off it freely. I suggest perhaps instead of taking those I hate whitey classes perhaps enrolling in some history and economics classes. Or if you really want to actually stretch your brain and think, you could read Guns, Germs, and Steal by gerad Diamond. The history of the world is a lot more complex than they make it out to be in those classes of yours. After all we are all human.
STOP BLAMING WHITE AMERICA,RELIGION ET
written by RC206, February 13, 2005
ZIMMERMAN AND MY CREDIBLE BRAZILAN FRIEND,here are two educated guy's that need to prove how smart they are!(they probably have a small penis! lol!)YOU 2 MEN SHOULD EMAIL EACH OTHER!People need to stop blaming other countries,religion,sexes etc.. for their problems and share their own credit ,for the gtood and bad.Yes, their are bad priests,are they all bad no!Is their a conspiracy? I doubt it! We need answerers and soulutions.The easiest thing to do,is blame each other,like blaming USA for every problem! Give it a break,the US has it's problems but at least it doesn't blame or countries.I respect them for this, it's not the people of the countries that are bad,it's their govenments! When you say blame it on the GRINGOES, YOU REALLY SHOW HOW STUPID YOU REALLY ARE! Can we all just get along,the white man did real bad things to the native indians,as did the greman's to the jews,africans to africans, japan to america etc... stop blaming and start helping!

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