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Brazil, the Land of Milk and Honey, Despite All the US Meddling PDF Print E-mail
2005 - February 2005
Written by John Fitzpatrick   
Monday, 07 February 2005 09:38

Brazil ParadiseFrom the feedback I have received over the last four years, the average Brazzil correspondent appears to be a semi-literate (in English and/or Portuguese) adolescent with a penchant for four-letter words or a poorly educated pedant who cannot grasp the big picture and is a good example of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing.

Fortunately, amongst this dross, there have been some messages from thoughtful, intelligent people who may not have agreed with me but were prepared to make their point in a rational, sensible way.

Some of these people have actually been to Brazil unlike many critics who know everything about a country they have never set foot in. Those who have visited Brazil or even live here obviously live in a different country from the one I inhabit.

However, to show that I bear no hard feelings to the hostile readers whose general message is “get back to ****ing Scotland you ****ing ****headed” I have written the following article on their behalf.

This is a generous gesture on my part since it will allow the views of these readers to be expressed in a more articulate way than they would ever be capable of doing themselves. I would like to state here and now that these correspondents do not need to thank me. Writing this article has been a pleasure. Here we go.

Protecting Paradise from the Greedy Gringoes
 
Brazil is a wonderful place. Everyone is nice and kind. The weather is marvelous and the sun shines all the time.  If there are any problems (like poverty, violence, injustice) then they are the fault of George W. Bush in particular and every American citizen in general.

Brazilians bear no responsibility for these problems even though they have been running the country for themselves since 1822. Every  single problem here is caused by outsiders, usually Americans.

That’s why it was right for terrorists to attack  New York and Washington in revenge for their just grievances. It was a bit of a pity about the 3,000 people who died but, since most of them were Americans, they deserved their fate.

Unfortunately some Brazilian were also killed, but that was Bush’s fault too because these people were forced to go to the US to work because there was no work for them at home. If the US had not made Brazil so poor then these Brazilians would be at home now with their families having a good time.

The terrorists were not Brazilians of course because Brazilians are a peaceful people who have never attacked any other country. In fact Brazilians have stretched the hand of friendship out so far that they have even brought large parts of Paraguay, Argentina, Bolivia and Peru under their wing.

How fortunate the people in these places were that they were not taken over by the evil Americans who grabbed parts of Mexico and incorporated other parts of Central and South America and the Caribbean.

Although Brazil actually had an Emperor for about 60 years this did not make it an imperialist country since the Brazilian Emperors were not imperialists. If you look at their photos you will see what nice, cheery, peaceful-looking fellows they were.

By becoming part of Brazil these lucky people from Paraguay and so on have been able to enjoy the samba, TV novelas, football and other examples of the glory of Brazilian civilization.

Brazilians are also peace loving at home and the massacres of hundreds of thousands of Indians, the importation of millions of slaves, the suppression of revolts in Canudos and Rio Grande do Sul in the 19th century were the fault of outside imperialists.

The Portuguese were not really to blame because they were ( and still are) funny people whom Brazilians make jokes about. The Portuguese were  just puppets of the British and all Brazil’s gold ended up in London.

Brazil granted freedom to its slaves in 1888. Although this was 80 years after the British abolished the slave trade and 20 years after the US outlawed slavery, at least it was done peacefully.

The American Civil War, which was fought over slavery led to 600,000 deaths but not a single Brazilian died to end slavery. In fact, Brazil even provided disgruntled American Confederates with land and some of their descendants still live in a town called Americana in São Paulo state. This shows the generous nature of Brazil.

The soldiers who seized power in 1964 and held it for 20 years were not really to blame. They were acting in the interests of the United States and the oppression and violence they practiced against their fellow citizens was the fault of the Americans.

It’s the same today when Brazilian kill and rob other Brazilians. The gangsters who terrorize the favelas, killing, exploiting, raping and turning children into drug addicts and prostitutes are really just victims of an unfair world.

In fact, it is the demand for drugs in the US which causes drug trafficking and misery in Brazil and other South American countries. If Americans would stop taking drugs then these social problems would end immediately.

Other evils, such as child prostitution, are  caused by foreigners – Americans and Europeans. These disgusting people are so rich that they can afford to fly to Brazil, stay in luxury hotels and exploit children into having sex with them.

The fact that the overwhelming majority of men who use prostitutes, including children, are Brazilian is irrelevant. The fact that child prostitution is openly practiced in many places in the Northeast, with the pimps and procurers being Brazilian men (and women), is also irrelevant.

These foreigners should not be allowed into the country. After all Brazilians don’t go abroad and sexually abuse European or American children. This is something Brazilians should be proud of.

As well as Brazil’s women and children, the greedy gringos are also exploiting Brazilian resources. They buy Brazil’s orange juice, coffee, soybeans etc for a pittance and, in return, sell Brazil expensive technical products.

However, they refuse to allow Brazilian high-tech items into their markets. Brazil has lots of high tech products, such as Embraer jets. It is true that Embraer receives some help from the government and it is a fact that almost half the Brazilian National Social Development Bank’s (BNDES) loans go to Embraer, but this does not mean that the company is getting favorable treatment.

Not content with exploiting Brazil commercially, the Americans have got their eyes on the Amazon. They know that the Amazon is a genetic El Dorado, full of priceless plants and herbs which will be able to cure all the world’s known diseases. However, the Americans want them for themselves so that their multinationals can develop them and make a fortune selling medical drugs at obscenely high prices.

The Americans are so arrogant that their atlases show the Amazon as no longer belonging to Brazil but as part of an internationally protected zone. Even now the Pentagon is deploying thousands of troops in Colombia to invade the Amazon.

In fact, the whole Iraq war is a rehearsal for the invasion of Brazil. That is why President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva should be congratulated for seeking alliances with Latin American patriots like Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez.

John Fitzpatrick is a Scottish journalist who first visited Brazil in 1987 and has lived in São Paulo since 1995. He writes on politics and finance and runs his own company, Celtic Comunicações - www.celt.com.br - which specializes in editorial and translation services for Brazilian and foreign clients. You can reach him at jf@celt.com.br.

© John Fitzpatrick 2005



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The Tale of two Cities...
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
Are you saying the portuquese kept some of the gold???
Is this a joke?
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
Latin American patriots like Fidel Castro ??
The upcoming elections in Cuba will surely be clean, they have had 45 years to get ready!

Don't forget to answer truthfully to the question on a US Visa for if you travel to the US:

You will not be allowed to enter or remain in United States if you:
are a member of totalitarian party (particularly the Communist Party)

"In fact, the whole Iraq war is a rehearsal for the invasion of Brazil."

Darn, you figured it out! Yep that was the secret plan, Uncle Sam needed the the army to be well trained, so a scheme was hatched to invade Iraq beacause of all the similarities to Brazil.


I STILL CAN'T STOP LAUGHING!! John Fitzpatrick IS HILARIOUS!!!
Too funny!!
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
This article absolutely cracks me up! Those dang Americans and their evil plan to be successful...how dare they?! Those dear, sweet Portuguese--what peaceable people they were. And of course slavery wasn't their idea. The Americans made them do so that they could have sugar for their British-imported tea.
Saddam\'s payroll
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
In the oil for food scandal, journalists were were one of the groups being bribed. I wonder if John Fitzpatrick is just angry from being cut off from Saddam's payroll.
From a self destructive semi-literate
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
Although I can appreciate your sarcasm, and wish I lived in a society where such could be used more often, I'll have to argument that you just trivialized your work, and your readers' wish to inform themselves. Take the drug problem for example, Brazilians blame demand, and Americans blame supply, if each looked at their our bellies, we would notice Brazilians were desperate for money they can't earn working and Americans desperate for a escape from the society they loath. Brazil has 15 year old girls turning tricks to buy vide bulla, or mere survival, while USA has 15 year olds turning tricks at the mall to buy kelvin klyne, both the demand and the supply are products of the same social phenomenon. Would the 64 coup have happened without USA's support, surely the military couldn't handle a civil war. So we can either agree history is written by the victors, and facts are mere factual opnions, because otherwise you might close this pointless site, I personally don't need lecture on common sense,
Embraer
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
Dear JF,

You failed to mention that the generous subsidies to Embraer also keep those pesky Canucks from Bombardier from taking over the lucrative business of regional aircrafts; ah, those puppets to the North... LOL
Poor ME
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
Great article! The real question is WHY do Brazilians believe this?
humn
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
Embraer does not recieve subsidies. They recieve LOANS and the point of friction is that these loans pay an equal interest rate as bombardier does for their loans. Bombardier says this is illegal, well the truth is bombardier cannot compete with embraer on a level playing ground and that due to the huge cost of financing the brazilin state 80% of bank loans from the private sector is taken by the brazilian government who pay ( we pay that is) the highest interest rates in the world for that money. This is why a bank like BNDES exists, To lend money to brazilian companies charging the interest that their foreign competitors pay. Conclusion, bombardier is an inferior company when compared to embraer. Oh, and the brazilian state is an obscenity.
Voting with their feet!
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
That's American milk and honey, sent via wire transfer by the millions of Brazilians that choose to live in the USA.
Voting with their feet!
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
That's American milk and honey, sent via wire transfer by the millions of Brazilians that choose to live in the USA.
Its so sad and in a way true...
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
While obviously a grandiose generalization, JF's article is not far from the sentiments I continue to read on this site.

I visit this site to learn and understand, and yet today (after reading actual personal attacks on me! - [“Helping the Helpless in Brazil”, I am "Cake Girl" *smile*]) - I have become very saddened, and while not hurt (how can I take the thoughts of angry and potentially ignorant people to heart?), I am sad...

With all the good that can come from opening your mind (and heart) through discussions, it appears to be a general sentiment that if you are NOT Brasilian, you are from the US. Accordingly, you are anything but of value.

JF? I do not know you. I do understand from the more (hmmm... a bit presumptuous of me, but...) educated writers on this site that maybe substantiation is all that they need from you. Sources. Is this something you can add to your articles so that those that are open to hearing you and your opinions can appreciate the basis of your arguments, philosophies, articles?

Thank you for making me laugh today. Knowing (or believing) that your words are a sarcastic exaggeration to confront those whose writings are based only (it seems) on anger and generalizations, your article helped to lift my spirits subsequent to this morning's negative "attack" on "Cake Girl"!

Invade with prosperity
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
If we teach economic freedom to the Brazilians and they apply it, JF would have one less group of people to look down on!
Dear Mr. Fitzpatrick:
written by Guest, February 07, 2005

What a pretentious writer you are indeed…” the average Brazzil correspondent appears to be a semi-literate (in English and/or Portuguese) adolescent with a penchant for four-letter words or a poorly educated pedant who cannot grasp the big picture and is a good example of a little knowledge”

First and foremost, what a condescending statement to readers that do not agree with your warped point of view, very disgraceful from your part.

Secondly, calling us poorly educated adolescents is an insult, I am willing to bet that when I first received my undergraduate degree from Georgia Institute of Technology you were probably still sucking on lollypops and watching bugs bunny on television. So don’t flatter yourself.

As to poorly educated, I am quite confident that I have more education then you and your entire family combined, and fluency in five languages including Portuguese (my native), English, Spanish, French and German. So please don’t indulge yourself in delusions, really!

You went on to demean some of us even further as to the knowledge or understanding of the brasilian culture. Let me tell Mr. Fitzpatrick, I was born and raised in Brasil graduating from high school (one of the top institutions in Rio) before immigrating overseas. Beyond that, I have lots of family in Rio, and I travel extensively internationally including Brasil, at least twice a year, on pleasure or business. Thus, I can tell you without reservations that I do understand the Brasilian psyche better then you ever will.

Once again, you went to say that some of us (by disagreeing with you!) lack vision of the grand scheme of things. I hope you understand that we are not dealing with Particle Physics nor Theorical Mathematics (which I also understand), but basically with common sense, that is, polarization of dominant economies over the third world. You have the unrealistic vision that other countries are compared to and analyzed based on your beloved Scotland, full of castles, kings and queens. Quite frankly, I don’t give a damn about either Scotland or yourself and I wished that you packed-up and return to your beloved country. I don’t believe you are going to be missed in Brasil given your mostly negative and inconsequential comments about my nation, perpetuating the distorted visualization that foreigners have of my country. Critiquing is easy, offering solutions, not so apparent, right?

Finally, you patronized us even deeper…” This is a generous gesture on my part since it will allow the views of these readers to be expressed in a more articulate way than they would ever be capable of doing themselves.”

In my opinion, what you usually write about is trivial if not irrelevant however, the reach of your medium (the internet), unfortunately reach those that perhaps not from a fault of their own but rather ignorance regarding my country, Brasil, will stir their opinions in the wrong direction. I think you need a dosage of “reality check.”

In closing, as you have mentioned “using four letter words”, I truly believe that it does describe and characterize your approach quite accurately, and I will stand by it!

Last but not least, whenever you decide to leave Brasil that you so much dislike, please don't let the door handle hit you where the good lord split you!

Good day.

Responsibility and Truth
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
To simplify the issue for Brazilians unaccustomed to sarcasm, the author is commenting on the general lack of a sense of personal responsibility and consequent liability for personal actions that Brazillians exhibit. When universalized and abstracted, Brazillian history becomes a history of oppression and therefore the responsibility for domestic social problems falls on the external aggressors. The fact that Brazillians, on a personal level, do not have the same standards of respect for law or their fellow man (or conversely, the consequences of social inequality) blinds them to the reality of Brazil's status in the real world; a caste based society that exports many individuals to the first world who are unable to give up the ideas that lead to their priveledged domestic status, yet dooms them within their new surroundings to subservience.
Hey buddy!
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
Re: Georgia Institute of Technology

Go over on Brazzilforum.com and send a PM to user REDNECK. I'll be glad to hear from ya!
Responsibility and Truth 2
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
People this quantum-stupid should be f**king quarantined...Next time you shave, please step a little closer to the blade, allright?
JF Me dear lass...
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
Up your kilt!
to...Dear Mr. Fitzpatrick:
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
You´re just proving his point. You´re personally attacking him, not his ideas (in this case, his justified sarcasm), and AS USUAL, it all comes down to "GET OUT".

You have provided us with a perfect example of the ilk of responses he is inundated with. Granted, you´re not a beligerent 14 year troll cussing and throwing hissy fits - as this site tends to be saturated with - however, you did reduce yourself to their level the moment you told the author to leave. The rest of your huffing and puffing didn´t help your case either.

He is belittling, and quite cleverly I might add, not just Brasilians, but all those brain dead folks, usually KIDS of ANY nationality, that tend to respond to his writtings with verbal abuse, of just plain stupid urban marxist legends.

You did see this line I hope:
"... unlike many critics who know everything about a country they have never set foot in."

Honestly, I´m always flabbergasted with the tone of responses to his articles, because frankly they´re quite clearly NOT anti-Brasilian. Sure he polks fun at times (He´s Scottish fer Christ sakes - they love taking the piss). Still, I´ve read more seering, critical articles in the Brasilian press, written by Brasilans, that don´t seem to generate the same ilk of hatred.

I did live in Brasil for a number of years and learned first hand that (in general) foriegners are NOT allowed to voice an opinion regardless of the length of time they have live in the country, their command of portuguese, and their knowledge of Brasilian affairs. This is what I see with the responses to Mr. Fitzpatrick´s articles, and this is just what you have demonstrated here YET again.

Debate the man´s ideas and observations, don´t attack him personally. You sound smart enough to be able to do that, so don´t throw all that education out the window and sink to the chest pounding level an adolescent nationalist.

John keep on posting. I know you enjoy Brasil. I did, regardless of the problems.
Reagan?
written by Guest, February 07, 2005
John,

I understand what you are trying to do with this article and appreciate what you're saying about all the four letter posters but, come on....

"In fact, it is the demand for drugs in the US which causes drug trafficking and misery in Brazil and other South American countries"

1981? Reagan drug policy?
to...Dear Mr. Fitzpatrick (cont.):
written by Guest, February 08, 2005


You got it all wrong, pal…You read what I wrote with a pre-conceived idea and quite frankly, it doesn’t matter anyway. However, let me clarify it once again, I attacked him in lieu of his condescending sarcasm about Brasil and us readers!

In general, I am sick in tired of seeing his articles with the singular objective of bashing Brasil. His authority on the topic of Brasil is superficial at best, he doesn’t review his sources and neither does he offer solution(s) to at times, imaginary situation(s) that Mr. Fitzpatrick creates himself.

My contention is quite simple, if you have better ways of resolving problems (i.e. concrete solutions), I am all ears and I believe that most Brasilians would be as well. The point is “what is the use of running, when you are on the wrong road ?”

Now then, let’s turn the table around and suppose that Mr. Fitzpatrick is bashing the United States “without cause.” I don’t think you would be a happy camper either!

Nobody is claiming that Brasil, the United States or any other country are perfect societies, but just pointing fingers does not bring about results but rather, resentful sentiments.

Mr. Fitzpatrick obviously does not sympathize with the Brasilian culture, people, and its government, based on his collection of material written. In that case, LEAVE. Like they say in America, “If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.”

That is my point of view…
C. Cravinhos
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
I am amazed by the pedantic stand taken by your guest "Responsibility and Truth". Will you please relax for goodness sake? You chose to leave abroad and seemingly lost one of the last qualities of brazilizians which is their good humor. Mr. Fitzpatrick is absolutely right on his articulation of the prevalent attitude shown by brazilians. Instead of reacting so defensively, enjoy the humor in the article. I am sick and tired of listening to the exact reasoning exposed by Mr. Patrick by various types of brazilians; from the semi-literates to people in high places in government. It is pathetic. As to Mr. Fitzpatrick I hope he enjoys Brazil and helps the locals by patiently showing them the other side of reality. Way to go my Scotish friend. The world is a small place and I hope to read more articles so intelligently written by you.
C. Cravinhos & Scotish Fag
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
I will get your pimplie asses later, now is TIME to watch samba schools! Untile then, Place the following word in proper sequence:

OFF f**k
A little thin skined John?
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
First Fitzpatrick...this is the best thing you have ever done on this blog, I have to admit it was funny, even it if it shallow. That about says how I feel about the dribble you publish. You still did not address that fact that your "articles" contain personal obsevations and emotions pretaining to Brasil, with little fact or understanding of Brasil, it's history , or it's culture. No rep**able journalists would dare publish the rubbish you do, articles without accurate data or facts...except maybe the NYT. Your articles are simply written and printed to ignite hate and indegnation. While many of your "tongue in check" observations may be cute and witty. Can you deny that the economic and polictical polices of our rich neighors to the North have not had a negative impact on our country? While only a few wacko Brasilians like the rest of the wacko world would say that the US deverved 9-11, which is pure hate and rubbish. Is it not OK to point out the failings of the US policy in the Middle East. And yes, like every other country, Brasil has periods in it's history that we should not be proud of. Rememeber what the US did to it's own Native Americans, the bombing of Japan with a nuke, the internement of Japanese citizens, or the British polices in India and South Africa. You know what they say about people in glass houses John. By responding this way to the critics of your publishings, you have bent to new low and shown once again where there is smoke there is fire, your thin skin shows that the critics have valid points. What you still have not answered, is the question I am sure everyone wants to know. With your critisizm and hatered of everything Brasilian, our governement, culture and people. Then why, in God's name, if you have a Scottish passport, do you continue to stay (or rot?), in Brasil?
OK...I\'ll be the one.
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
A previous article asked to show "Just one non anti-American Brasilian" OK here I am! Those of us who crticize a type of person we so desperatly need are ignorant or just blinded by jealosy. Wouldn't it be nice to have a leader who did not worry so much about getting re-elected, but someone willing to stick to their principles and values. How long has it been Brasil? How long will it be? I wish to God Mr. Bush was Brasilian. Then maybe we would have someone with the courage to take back our citys from drug dealers and gangsters, some one willing to fight corruption and put important business behing bars. Would it not be nice if we had a program like "Leave No Child Behind" and could guarentee every child in Brasil a good education. I would love to have some one who cared nothing about the rest of the world, but only Brasil. Is their a leader in our future who can make it safe to walk our streets at night, end child prostituion, and police and political corruption? Would it not be nice, to have someone leading our country who says what he means, and does what he says even if it is unpopular. Do you really think that Mr. Bush would let a bunch of wood choppers in the Amazon hold the country hostage by holding up traffic by blocking a highway for weeks? Or squatters take land that has belonged to familes for hundreds of years? Wouldn't it be nice to have a justice system that actually handed out justice? Well my brothers and sisters...Brasil can use a little more George Bush!
There!
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
Here we go! We found ONE here who likes GWB! Let's knock it off now. It's samba time!!!
cake girl caught shoplifting in rio
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
reuters press 08/02/2005

American student Cake Girl was caught shoplifting in a Rio de Janeiro mall this afternoon. Security guards reported that cake girl hid one copy of " Why i hate brazilains and latins in general" by Adolf Hitler under her blouse. When aproached by the guards cake girl refused to be searched yet while spazing out the book fell from her blouse to the floor. Bystanders then witnessed what seemed to be an attack by her on one security guard but was actually an atempt for a kiss. This is when what seemd to be the story of a confused teenager took a bizarre turn. Amongst the bystanders was scotish journalist John Fitzpatrick who claimed to be the security guards lover and attacked cake girl. It all ended with all the involved being arrested and booked at rios 5th precinct.
Cake girl made bail and is set to be tried and possibly deported. Mr Fitzpatrick was allowed bail but according to Deputy Cardoso of the 5th precinct refused alleging he was enjoying the new friends he had made in an overcrowded jail cell.
OK..I will be the second.
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
I am Brazilian and I love my country and people. But I cannot helplessly stand on the sidelines and watch history unfold. I do too hope for a leader with principles like Bush. Someone who cares for the greater good more than he cares for himself.The time has comne for Brazilians to stop blaming others for their own problems. We must recognize that the Americans have done at least one thing correctly. They have been themselves! I despise the new generation of Brazilians who blast Americans yet are proudly mispronouncing English they wrongly bring into their vocabulary. Where is our identity? Look within yourselves and you will find it. What is it that you call "Brasileirismo"? I for one have found it. Eu sou um BRASILEIRO and I know that to be Brazilian means to be responsible for my own fate. Our country is rich enough for all of us to emerge out of poverty. WE can improve ourselves. But that will only happen when we turn our fingers away from the north into ourselves. O que é ser Brasileiro pra voces?
OK..I will be the second.
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
I am Brazilian and I love my country and people. But I cannot helplessly stand on the sidelines and watch history unfold. I do too hope for a leader with principles like Bush. Someone who cares for the greater good more than he cares for himself.The time has comne for Brazilians to stop blaming others for their own problems. We must recognize that the Americans have done at least one thing correctly. They have been themselves! I despise the new generation of Brazilians who blast Americans yet are proudly mispronouncing English they wrongly bring into their vocabulary. Where is our identity? Look within yourselves and you will find it. What is it that you call "Brasileirismo"? I for one have found it. Eu sou um BRASILEIRO and I know that to be Brazilian means to be responsible for my own fate. Our country is rich enough for all of us to emerge out of poverty. WE can improve ourselves. But that will only happen when we turn our fingers away from the north into ourselves. O que é ser Brasileiro pra voces?
for a leader with principles like Bush!
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
you mean for oil tacoons?
George Bush\'s America
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
Link:

http://www.stopviolence.com/9-11/mideast/antiAmericanism.htm
\"tacoon\"???
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
You mean "TYCOON"????
Paraguay
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
brazil was right to take land away from paraguay. Paraguay invaded brazil and the land confiscated was a result of that war. Actually Argentina wanted brazil to split paraguay with them and just abolish the country alltogether. We , of course, being smart and knowing what they were up to decided to keep some land for ourselves and manipulate paraguayan politics from the outside so to not allow it to be a base from where argentina who has its troops in buenos aires must closer to that region than we did to invade brazil.
The acre region of now brazil used to belong to bolivia. The acreans though were mostly brazilian and they defeated the bolivian army with no help from brazil and then asked to be part of the brazilian nation . This request actually took a while but was finally accepted. Brazil even payed the bolivian government some compensation so they would not look like complete morons. I am sure the dictator of the time blew the money on booze.
Then there were the french who were kicked out of rio by the portuguese but french people are wimps so that doesn´t really count.
The dutch in the northeast were a different story, They fought bravely and established a government led my maurice de nassua who had interesting and progressive ideas such as religious tolerance . The oldest sinagogue in the new world is in the northeast. Mr Nassau encouraged religios tolerance and catjolics, protestans and jews lived side by side. If you include the fact that dutch chicks are hot then one can´t dismiss the possibility that dutch presence in brazil was positive.
Brazil also took land away from argentina, peru colombia and uruguay. Yet those people speak a really vulgar form of arabic that they claim to be a latin language , obviously morons that deserved to be subdued.
On a different note why can´t Fitzpatrick give us the recipe for scotish toddy? For heavens sake do something usefull for you readers Homen de deus.
why stay?
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
have you ever been to the beach in scotland!
Peckerwood Fitzpatrick...
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
You are the Starship Enterprise of stupidity - going where no idiot has ever gone before...You're a moron. It's your legacy. Deal with it!
John
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
You sound constipated, Enema Much?

I HAVE THE PERFECT TOOL FOR THE JOB, A WOODEN SPOON UP YOUR ASS, ROTTEN TEETH SCOTISH FAGGOT.

May Your Hairy a*****e Be A “Penis Dartboard” For A Thousand Years...hehehekkkkkhahaha
LOL
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
A Scotsman is working at a sewerage. It's a warm day, so he takes off his jacket and drapes it over a handrail - where it slips off into a vast tank of poo!
He's just about to dive in when his mate shouts "It's nae guid tae do that, the jacket's ruined"
He replies "Aye, ah ken, but ma sandwiches are in the pocket"

if you can\'t against them, just be your
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
John,
Just write man!
Ricardo Silva.
...
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
As long as all of your problems are due to someone else, or some other nation, you do not need to get on your feet and off your ass. You are "oppressed",*sniff* Sorry, it is not your fault, there is nothing you can do... go Samba and get drunk.

Utter nonsense. When a stone in the sidewalk has been kicked loose, do you stare at it or fix it? When any type of repair, or cleaning, or simply picking up common trash, which requires no money - or foriegn aid form the EUA, only a small effort, do you put forth that effort or is it someone else's job? Someone else can do it.

You argue prosperity as if you can purchase it or own it, Capitalism helps, but it is the attitudes of the people in the society that makes a society great. Respect for your fellow man is the first place to start, and sadly in Brassil, it is often lacking.

So when a liberal democrat is elected President of the EUA, just remember, it is Argentina's fault then!!
A lack of understanding
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
I think it is way off base to say that the majority of Brasilians blame others for their problems. I think it is fair to say that the economic and political polices of our friends to our north have had negative economic impacts, in particular unfair trade polices, but, that's life, and we as Brasilians are the ones that have to do what is right for Brasil. The few Brasilian whinners on this site that blame, Bush, Castro, and Britney Spears for our problems would be losers in any country. Brasil is full of aggresive professionals and entrupenuers, who make something of themselves "IN SPITE" of our governments anti-growth, anti-capitalism polices. So while I would agree with the poster, that some people here in Brasil :need to get on your feet and off your asses", I'll bet the same can be said about the same type of citizens in almost any other country, not just Brasil. Brasil has a large group of educated young professionals who are feed up with Carnaval, Samba, crime, corruption, and the general lack of attention to serious matters, this group WILL make a difference in Brasil in the coming years.
liberal democrat
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
Re: So when a liberal democrat is elected President of the EUA

Would that be 2028?
Don\'t drag Britney...
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
...into this mess, you f@#$, son of a f@&*$% w#$%!

Seriously, now, I thought we could use some more comic relief!

Keep on posting...
Johnny F.
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
I bet it takes you an hour to cook Minute rice...Your scotish gene pool could use a little chlorine.

Did you study to be that expertly stupid or does it come naturally?
Heeeeeeeeeere is Johnnie
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
Stupidity is a personal achievement which transcends national boundaries.
Mr. Fitzpatrick
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
Go figure! 100,000 sperm and YOU were the fastest, what a petty!
Correction:
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
Go figure! 100,000 sperm and YOU were the fastest, what a pity
Seriously, Mr. Fitzpatrick
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
You're on the cutting edge of stupidity....a prime candidate for natural de-selection.
Re: A lack of understanding
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
I totally agree. Many Brazilians are some of the most energetic and hard-working people I have met. I wish there were more.

On one trip to Belo Horizonte I met an older man who broadly beamed and smiled while he said that Brazil is growing up and becoming a great nation. I tend to agree. The younger generation is growing up with the expectation that there will be a vote - all the time. I was also in Belo during the Gore recount, and being a Florida resident, I got a great deal of light-hearted grief from my dear Brazilian friends.

I think many Brazlians have come to realize that freedom, democracy, and self-determination are automatic, but they are things that are nurtured, cherished, and fought for.

Americans and Brazilians are very similar, become personal friends very easily, and have difficulties understanding the history and politics of the other. Economic theory? Usually worse.

Lula may have been, and still may be, cold toward Washington. That is his progative. But while he has his ideals and goals, it appears he chose to govern the nation and balance his actions. Usually this means that almost no one is totally happy. Right or left.

That is true democratic government.
Demoracy equals prosperity in Brasil
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
I couldn't agree more with the two posters. Brasil has created a generation of energetic creative thinkers. This is the real future of Brasil, not a socialist experiment which has gone crazy. Brasil is SO different than the other countries in the region. Fast advances in medicine, technology, farming, mining, and manufacturing to just name a few are fueling a recovery that can not be stopped, even by the likes of the current governement, which ironicaly takes credit for this increase in productivity. When in fact we are succeeding IN SPITE OF, the governement. Thank God that the PT and the Lula cronies are unraveling at the seams and we will soon be rid of them. Brasil is a big machine and machines need to be feed with new ideas and resources, neither of which we are short of. Yes, it is true, that many in our country are not experiencing the benefits of our revival, they hear the pesimism of the John Fitzpatricks of the world. But the day is coming when if you work hard, and are honest in Brasil, you can be succesful. The dark people of the dark ages are fading away, and the people are not letting the heirs easily inherit their evil birth rights. We are finally on the move, and as the most educated, most free, most well equipped country in our region, we can succeed if we do not shoot ourselves in the foot. We must survive two more years of our current incompetent leadership, which we can easily do...we are smarter than they are. But two years from now, we must make another important decision regarding our leadership, I pray to God a REAL leader appears.
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written by Guest, February 08, 2005
Just reading through some of these blogs proves John´s point. The majority of Brasilians (and American leftists?), not all thank God, are little more than synapse deficient cretinhos with little to offer other than verabl abuse and adolescent one-liners.

Someone here PLEASE tell us how the developed world is to blame for all of Brasil´s problems. "Foriegn Policy" means what? Extrapolate!! These words have no meaning without context!!!

And to those that harp on about import/ export taxes here in Brasil and how the poor ole USA are unfair, you do know that if it weren´t for the import taxes on electronics - which Brasil can´t produce - you´d be able to purchase a computer at HALF the price you´re currently paying? Christ WHO cares about oranges? Ya´ll need a means to educate yourselves, because quite frankly, your schools are failing you.
Socialism
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
The point of socialism to to spread the suffering around. When someone is not suffering, they are not doing their fair share.
Your the one talking about leftist
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
Then the US should lift the socialist subsidies it provides not only orange growers, but the producers of cotton, steel, shrimp, fish, cotton, soy and lumber just to name a few. Funny, France and Germany believe in socilist subsidies as well. The US a socialist country? Ask your farmers who rely on your government cradle to grave! Oh, and while we are at it, perhaps YOU should pay closer attention in school, not only is Brasil producing computers, TV's, home appliances and automobiles, we are exporting them around the world. Did you know that MinuteMaid and Tropicana are Brasilian companies, or that the same Brasilian General Contractor that is helping the US re-build Iraq, is also doing the construction of the new terminals at Miami and Newark International. Dude, we are not the US and don't claim to be, but people like you and Fitzpatrick, who know SO much about other peoples business, are the ones who failed to get quality educations.
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written by Guest, February 08, 2005
QUOTE: Oh, and while we are at it, perhaps YOU should pay closer attention in school, not only is Brasil producing computers, TV's, home appliances and automobiles, we are exporting them around the world.

HA HA HA HA HA HA name a well known and reliable brand that was DESIGNED, CREATED and PRODUCED NOT in Brasil, but by Brasilians!! PUUULLLEEEEASSEEE

CARS? COMPUTERS? TVs? - You´ve got to be joking.

Stick to oranges and sugar, K...
...
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
QUOTE: Oh, and while we are at it, perhaps YOU should pay closer attention in school, not only is Brasil producing computers, TV's, home appliances and automobiles, we are exporting them around the world.

HA HA HA HA HA HA name a well known and reliable brand that was DESIGNED, CREATED and PRODUCED NOT in Brasil, but by Brasilians!! PUUULLLEEEEASSEEE

CARS? COMPUTERS? TVs? - You´ve got to be joking.

Stick to oranges and sugar, K...
the above post
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
Dude why so frustrated? lack of sugar in your diet perhaps.
the above post: DUDE - qwa qwa qwa
written by Guest, February 08, 2005
Dude? OK, we know were you´re coming from. Groan. Sigh.

Would you like to take a stab at the question? I thought not.
qwa qwa moron
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
Stick to nukes, mass murder, lies, and deception...uncle sam favorites
Stick to oranges and sugar, K...
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
The American Male Doesn't Mature Until He Has Exhausted All Other Possibilities…

The organization of American society is an interlocking system of semi-monopolies notoriously venal, an electorate notoriously unenlightened, misled by a mass media notoriously phony!

Get lost, arrogant mental midget with the IQ of a fence post!
helping the helpless statistics
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
These are number from Fitzpatricks last article "helping the helpless in brazil"

People who supported mr fitzpatrick
11
People who condemend fitzpatrick
10
People who thought brazilian government tax too much
5

The resto of the posts were basicaly people questioning fitzpatricks lack of numbers to back up his statements plus people insulting each other without mentioning fitzpatrick and people recomending books or websites and posting articles.
Point is most people favored fitzpatrick. What i would like is for fitzpatrick to cite his sources. Remember a guy may come in here, act like an idiot leaving vulgar messages but then go off to work and do his or her job well regardless of what that job is. I feel that fitzpatrick when making general statements like in his article "helping the helpless in brazil" is doing his job poorly. This is my only problem with fitzpatrick yet it is what removes credibility from his writing.
Stick to oranges and sugar, K...SIGH
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
"The organization of American society is an interlocking system of semi-monopolies notoriously venal, an electorate notoriously unenlightened, misled by a mass media notoriously phony! "

So, who said I was American? Wow you´re thick. And if that is how you view the American society (which is about 200 years more advanced than Brasil) than I´d love to hear your take on Brasilian Society. qwa qwa qwa
qwa qwa qwa
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
Dude you laugh like donald duck
RE: Stick to oranges and sugar, K...SIGH
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
Aren't you smart enough to indulge us yourself?
Stick to oranges and sugar, K...SIGH 2
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
Let me guess...What we are dealing with here is one of those “ex-brasilians” who immigrated years ago to the US for reasons such as not having enough skills to make it in the Brasilian society (i.e. window washers), slashing at Brasil every opportunity they get, for reasons no other then personal failure and bitterness.

These morons typically become more Americans than Mr. Reagan himself, lack self- identity, egotistical with lots of self empty space, and in principle, have nothing to offer or contribute to either society. The real questions is…Of their two-faces, which one is he/she wearing today?

That is a prime example that “Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity.”

Good Day.

PS Window washing is an honest profession but in Brasil, a difficult one to self-sustain.


...
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
Still, no one has answered Stick to Orange´s question. Lots of slings and arrows, but as per usual, no content. Its easy to insult, assume, and huff and puff, but the fact of the matter is that this Stick to Oranges fellow asked a simple question that seems to be elluding many.
Rise of the lucky and decay of the incom
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
It doesn't elude anyone, it's just pointless, how about American cars suck, how many American companies still produce electronics, how long has it been since an American video game was developed, hint Atari was the first and xbox the second. What about computer mother boards, hard drives, memory, chipset, monitors, Boing falling behind Airbus, why don't you mention such pearls? What about how US is falling behind Brazil on the use of agriculture technology? How about stem cell research? Yes men of the future, show us your competence before the recovering battered competitors.
to Rise of the lucky and decay of the in
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
*SIGH*

--It doesn't elude anyone,
Than just answer it.

--how about American cars suck
A matter of opinion. They´re not my preference, but I´ll take a Chevrolet Corvette over a Brasilia any day. (do they still even make Brasilias?)

--how many American companies still produce electronics,
IMB
Hewlett-Packard
Motorola
Xerox
Intel
Compaq
texas Instruments
Apple
Microsoft
Unisys
Seagate
Dell
Packard Bell
Oracle
lexmark
Novell
EDS
AMP
Quantum

to name a few...

--how long has it been since an American video game was developed, hint Atari was the first and xbox the second.

Given your question is how long has it been, the xbox was officially released in 2000, so the answer would be five years. Not bad.

--What about computer mother boards, hard drives, memory, chipset, monitors,

You are joking right? You have heard about Silicone Valley? You do know about the new CELL chip that was unveiled recently, and will run at speeds of greater than 4 GHz? Take a look at the companies involved in the development of this NEW technology....Here´s a hint: one company´s name begins with an I and ends with and M.

--Boing falling behind Airbus, why don't you mention such pearls?

I know diddly squat about planes other than the WRIGHT brothers were the inventors..

--What about how US is falling behind Brazil on the use of agriculture technology?

Is that why Monsantos and Cargill have plants and offices all throughout Brasil?

--How about stem cell research?
As long as Bush is in office, this will always be an issue.

--Yes men of the future, show us your competence before the recovering battered competitors.

that makes no sense whatsoever,

Now answer Oranges question......


Americans hate when others do better...
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
then they can...the above links are some of the Brazilian industrial might capabilities!

ORDER AND PROGRESS!!
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
a scotsman, a brazilain and a american are walking through the jungle when out jumps a big lion. the scotsman picks up a rock and throws it at the lion knocking him out, and they all run. seconds later the loin catches up with them. this thime the american picks up a rock , throws it at the lion and they continue to run. soon the loin is on them again this time they find a big tree and start climbing all exept the braziliain, the scotsman and americain shout and plea for him to start climbing but he turns to them and says, why? i never threw any rocks!
You can escape decadence...
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
Have you heard of subsidiaries? You should look it up, itś fairly interesting, even few of those companies you mentioned were dissolved already. About Microsoft and Intel, and AMD, itś a nice patent strangle hold, but how long will it last? By the way, Atari was released in 1985, so thatś 15 years, not sure how well you can subtract. USA still is the world biggest economy, we can't deny, but think 10-20 years.
You can escape decadence...
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
--By the way, Atari was released in 1985, so thatś 15 years, not sure how well you can subtract.

The xbox was release in 2000 - trying reading things twice if you don´t understand the first time.

Again, no one has decided to shed light on those computers, cars and Tvs Brasilians have designed and now export. Still no takers? More diversive tactics I see.
Freaking American/Scotish Morons
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
Nobody disputes that the US is the only super-power left (not for much longer I might say), however, as it was mentioned up above, americans should stick to nukes, mass murder, lies, and deception...uncle sam favorites!

The whole world will catch up with you american militaristic thugs, your day is coming. We may all endup in hell, but americans are getting there first.
as to Mr. Fitzpatrick...
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
the prick is just a bitter rotten teeth inconsequential bulls**ter. Mr. Fitzpatrick, you get no respect here, go back to where ever you are f**king from!
Brazilian Technologies
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
Fact, the Brasilian industrial capacity is includes aerospace, aeronautical, bio-chemical, telecommunications, medical, agricultural, information technologies and so on. We are not as powerful as the American empire, but we can give you a run for your money!

The US is becoming lessand less important to the Brasilian economy as China, Japan and United Europe are fastly fulfilling that notch as first place partners. An excellent position for the Brasilian national security as we continue do deny americans our participation in their wars, such as Iraq.

American credibility is a thing of the past....deal with it!

American empire???
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
Shows how little you understand about American society!! Americans want other countries to prosper, more customers to sell thing to! It's not very nice of you to want other's to do other than to prosper!
Your kidding right
written by Guest, February 09, 2005
I am not a person that you would consider an "anti-American", I understand and respect American policies. But come on! America wants other countries to prosper?! Are you serious, the only thing that American cares about is America, and everyone else be damned...it's a fact, and I can live with it. But at least you should admit that it true as well. The previous poster speaks accuratly about our new trade and economic partners, it is not anti-Americanism, but smart positioning. America's socialistic trade barriers that reward the inefficnt American farmers and industry, have made America a second rate market. The real markets now for Brasil are China, India and Russia...even your friends the Saudi's, who are buying our products as fast as we can produce them!

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written by Guest, February 09, 2005
This is just the Canadian from the other tread, he wants bash USA just as we do, but he feels it undermines his "ideals" and "values" as if he knew USA's values...
USA Values???
written by Guest, February 10, 2005
The America society...Look, we're Americans: optimistic, addicted to the quick fix, constantly on the hunt for the new and exotic. It's much easier for us to accept a guy with a big white beard hawking his own custom blend of saw palmetto and squirrel dandruff that it is to hear a real doctor telling us to lay off the Big Macs, and get off our fat asses and take a walk every decade or so…

Hehehe....lard asse americans!
No Canadian Excuse Here...
written by Guest, February 10, 2005
Sou Brasileiro, seu gringo Burroide da Silva!
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written by Guest, February 10, 2005
I get the impression that the Brasilians here could show the world a few of things about politeness, inteligence and about being open minded... If you want proof about how Brasilians typify education, hit the portuguese forum on this site or go to Orkut. I think we could all learn a few things about behavior from Brasilains.

Just look to some of these posts:

Hehehe....lard asse americans!

This is just the Canadian from the other tread, he wants bash USA just as we do, but he feels it undermines his "ideals" and "values" as if he knew USA's values...

the prick is just a bitter rotten teeth inconsequential bulls**ter.

I HAVE THE PERFECT TOOL FOR THE JOB, A WOODEN SPOON UP YOUR ASS, ROTTEN TEETH SCOTISH FAGGOT.

The whole world will catch up with you american militaristic thugs, your day is coming.

Get lost, arrogant mental midget with the IQ of a fence post!

I will get your pimplie asses later, now is TIME to watch samba schools! Untile then, Place the following word in proper sequence: OFF f**k

People this quantum-stupid should be f**king quarantined...Next time you shave, please step a little closer to the blade, allright?

So now, let´s ALL behave like Brasilians and make the world a better place.
John Fitzpatrick is a hypocrite !
written by Guest, February 10, 2005
I suppose if I lived in Scotland I'd want to get out of there quickly too.Brazil has much more to offer than the hole you came from,heck, I'd even take Mexico instead of Scotland. For all its problems, Brazil will continue to be a country of great importance.
So take you 'masters of the universe' bulls**t and buy yourself a one way ticket back to the motherland, its just one more vote for a better Brazil. Order and Progress !
Brasilian Politness
written by Guest, February 10, 2005
To the poster who commented on "Brasilian politness", there are lots of nationalites posting here that could use a lesson in manners. But if you read the quotes you listed, you can easily see that there is one teenaged moron with a limied education and vocabulary posting these comments, and I am not even sure he is a Brasilian. The best thing to do is ignore him, he shows up quite frequently because if he is Brasilian, he can't get a hot garota to hang out with him, so he is probably at home in front of his computer all day with his dick in his hand.
John = Brazil
written by Guest, February 10, 2005
Why does John live in Brazil ? Because he can. He is able to have a better life in a foreign country than he would have at home. You don't have to be a genius to see that. The thing is, there are a lot of things about Brazil that bug him. Where you expecting a perfect world in Brazil John ? You are starting to see all the imperfections Brazil has to offer but you can't make yourself go back to Scottland, can you ? It's like being in love with a wife that cheats on you, but you don't have the balls to leave her. Just as retarded as the Brazilian problems you point out in your articles. Are you really different than everyone else ? Are you really making a difference ?
Brasilian Politness
written by Guest, February 10, 2005
You freak (viado)...I'll put on my sombrero and dance the La Cucaracha on your testicles if you don't shut the f**k up.
Dancing
written by Guest, February 10, 2005
"You freak (viado)...I'll put on my sombrero and dance the La Cucaracha on your testicles if you don't shut the f**k up."

Dude we don´t want to hear about your sexual fantasies. Keep them to yourself.
Back to the topic
written by Guest, February 10, 2005
From a self destructive semi-literate

Although I can appreciate your sarcasm, and wish I lived in a society where such could be used more often, I'll have to argument that you just trivialized your work, and your readers' wish to inform themselves. Take the drug problem for example, Brazilians blame demand, and Americans blame supply, if each looked at their our bellies, we would notice Brazilians were desperate for money they can't earn working and Americans desperate for a escape from a society they loath. Brazil has 15 year old girls turning tricks to buy vide bulla, or mere survival, while USA has 15 year old girls turning tricks at the mall to buy kelvin klyne, both the demand and the supply are products of the same social phenomenon. Would the 64 coup have happened without USA's support, surely the military couldn't handle a civil war. So we can either agree history is written by the victors, and facts are mere factual opnions, because otherwise you might just close this pointless site, I personally don't need lecture on common sense.

I wonder why no one debated my earlier post...
Are you still there John?
written by Guest, February 11, 2005
Well you did it John. You inicted every 3rd grade derilict that posts on this blog...just like you wanted to do. Congratulations! We sure appreciate your shallow attempt at sarcasam, as your only goal was to do exactly what you did...prove that 1/2 the people on the internet are morons. But guess what? Some of us are smart enough to know that already. I know it is a futile request, but if you do have some journalistic training and backgroud, do us all a favor and try and write something based on fact, and worth considering instead of the retoric you continue to post in your efforts to provoke the morons...which by the way...you are extremley good at.
Peace is not an ugly word
written by Guest, February 11, 2005
“I don’t know, except that people, grown-ups and kids, seem to want to hurt each other - and it’s worse when they’re in a group.”
— Bless Me, Ultima
Is this what we call intellectual discourse or would it be all personal attacks on each others beliefs?
Are you still there John? continue
written by Guest, February 11, 2005
Try the spell check before posting: RETORIC = WRONG, RHETORIC = RIGHT

You get an "F" in English ( F not equal to Fantastic), back to English 101. Americano analfabeto!
Mr. Fitzpatrick
written by Guest, February 11, 2005
John..you have no enemies, but you are intensely disliked by your friends!

We are Family
written by Guest, February 11, 2005
The great man speaks: "http://www.gringoes.com/articles.asp?ID_Noticia=683"
For all who are new to the game, John is the number one commentator on Brazil in English today. Although his commentary has grown weak in the last yearor so (too busy at work and with the family?) he can still explain the scene to first worlders better than anyone else. The reality is that John can explain exactly why something is wrong from the western perspective. Brazil is an extremely complicated place; things are screwed up on many different levels, all the time. The problem is that the locals are born within this dynamic and can only gain perspective by leaving (check out the gringoes.com series Foreigners through Brazillian eyes) and that foreigners get used to it over time and stop complaining because they can't find anyone who cares. If you do a search of Fitzpatrick's postings, you will find that the extremely funny observations diminish over time and become almost apologetic. Its too bad that the vitriol is ephemeral... Waiting in anticipation of the next acorn to fall from the tree.
John Fitzpatrick is a hypocrite !
written by Guest, February 11, 2005
If i lived in Scotland I'd want to leave that hole also.Brazil has much more to offer than that dump,heck, I'd even prefer Mexico instead of Scotland. Despite all its problems, Brazil has much to offer and doesn't need any more meddling from a 10 pound Pom.
Take your 'masters of the universe' bulls**t,and buy yourself a one-way ticket back home,where you can preach to your fellow Britass citizens.

PS thats 9 pound too much!
LUCK MAN
written by Guest, February 11, 2005
Well John,guess what?? you are wrong,and for been wrong you became a very luky man,because if you were right about the quality of the readers,your head would be hunted for sure !!!!
Another gringo
written by Guest, February 11, 2005
I've read articles and the responses to them on this site for some time. As a gringo that married a Brasileira, I have tried to learn as much as possible about the culture of Brasil, and as trends in the US have seemed to have become more ¨conservative¨ (or backwards to my ¨middle of the road or slightly liberal¨ point of view), I've started to consider actually moving to Brasil, something that my wife has always wanted. This site has on occasion been upsetting to me. Being a hated and unwelcome American (as some have articulated) is a little unsettling I suppose, and the occasional name calling on here is a bit demeaning to all concerned. But I have been very impressed with the mostly rational responses, and I appreciate the opportunity to learn the differing views of Brasil ? the issues, possible solutions, and even the misconceptions that many in Brasil have about my country (and in some cases, that I have myself). What drew me to Brasil is the friendliness of the people and the general perception that Brasilians enjoy life more than we do here in the US. People of few other countries work longer hours and have less vacation and holidays than we have here in the US. Then when we leave work, we mostly go home to an apartment or house, and rarely get to know our neighbors or spend much time with our extended families. This is sad, for as we interact less, we become more intolerant of others that differ. It was not like this as much in past, but it has become more so in my generation. Add to this the fact that technology tends to make everything much more impersonal, and you can understand why some gringo's want to move to Brasil ? not to change things, not to make it like the US, but to enjoy the many good things that Brasil has to offer. It's very obvious that there are many daunting issues in Brasil that need to be addressed, but that is true to some degree everywhere, and Brasil has many good aspects that we have lost. I do hope, however, that most Brasilians will understand that we in the US do not wish ill of any country (at least I have never known anyone that did). Some here are greedy, and might sell their grandmother for a profit, but I have never known anyone who wanted to occupy or control another country. In speaking to my extended family in Brasil, their main fear is that Brasil will change itself, copy the US, and lose many of the good things that it current has, while not solving the current issues. I hope that Brasilians are wise enough to reject the automation, the self serve, the fast food, the endless relocation and the constant hunger for more, and remain who you are.
the gringo
written by Guest, February 11, 2005
You comments are appreciated, Brasil is not an enemy of the USA, but there are many that disagree with American policy. If you do move here, you will have a completly different view of Brasil...and America. Still, America has a right to it's policies and security, Brasil must stop playing the blame game, and pointing our the faults of others...it is a deception practiced here, beacause our people are proud to a fault.It is much easier to talk about the percieved faults of someone else, than take responsibilty for your oenw. It is Brasil's best interest to retain close economic, if not social ties with the US, as well as many other countries. We have the resources, and the ability to change Brasil, it is now up to us to determine if we have the courage.
A Modest Proposal - Brazilian style...
written by Guest, February 11, 2005

A very funny article...


it sucks to be you...
written by Guest, February 11, 2005
pfiuuu... John, slowdown! Your destructive path will not generate solutions.
Prof. Hamish
written by Guest, February 12, 2005
Framed in an interesting way, John.

But, I'm afraid that you will never see the prespective of the native, and thus never express it in words. If you could you would be able to help direct understanding to the many problems facing us [and the world]. But as such, your articles have always lacked the texture of the complex race, culture, political, etc. life that is Brasil.

What as some know, feel, and believe, about external meddling and it's residual effects is true and real [and not just only to them]. And they react to those realities. You simply dismiss those realities, or not preceive them at all and/or otherwise gloss over everything that is not "you".

Your views almost always fall outside of the country's multi-level dynamics and your words merely sound stange and bigoted. Very few times have I learned anything new or was able to refin my thinking from your writing.

But do continue... Your documentation of today may lead someone in the future to add texture to their writing.
Prof. Hamish
written by Guest, February 12, 2005
It would be prudent to remember that Mr. Fitzpatrick is writing articles (columns?) for a website and not presenting a thesis.

As well, all cultures, all nations and all groups of people are complex, and can never EVER be summed up in a single essay, even if it were to be published in some obscure journal of anthropology/sociology. Brasil holds no patent on diversity.

For me, the art in John´s writings is that he cuts through academic baffle-gab and political correctness to present us with a pretty accurate, sometimes controversial, usually jocular, snap shot of life in a small part of the country he now embraces, through immigrant eyes. For ex-pats such as myself adapting to the myriad quirks and cultural complexities/frustrations, I cherish most of what he writes. Certainly, I don´t agree with everything - so be it. But at times his artcles resonate shockingly close to my personal experiences, and it is a comfort to note that I´m not alone in my day to day observations.

That said, give all us gringos another ten years of griping and moaning about "things in Brasil", and we too may become habituated enough to shug everything off and adopt the "perspective of the native."
Don\'t be a fool.
written by Guest, February 12, 2005
he is just playing with your brain .

Talk is cheap. To hear about problems without active and hand on participation is just a waist of time.


Plus did ever hear about

Subliminal messages are everywhere.....

They're in ads, on TV, in music, in articles like this one. In fact subliminal messages are hidden in virtually everything that we do. As a matter of fact, often times when you speak to someone, you are sending them a subliminal message and may not even know it.

How can this be? Maybe your not trained in hypnosis, but you may get the same results that a hypnotist or someone that is well versed in hypnotic language may get.

The reason is that a subliminal message is merely your ability to communicate with someone's subconscious mind. It doesn't matter if you did it on purpose or by design, the effect works when it is done a certain way.

What is that certain way? Well, many advertisers use a subliminal directive in their ads in order to elicit a response from the viewer. This could be a subtle reference that says "Buy Now" or "Order Today", to more covert embedded methods of hiding the subliminal suggestion into a sentence structure.

The subconscious mind is the part of the mind below the level of conscious thought or perception. Unlike the conscious mind mind basing itself on logic, the sub-conscious mind will accept all information that is introduced to it and stores it for retrieval at a later time.

The subconscious mind is always awake, taking in all forms of stimulus that you are giving to it. Even while you sleep the subconscious mind is ready for action.

When you deliberately design a message, suggestion or directive that goes directly to the subconscious and by passes the conscious mind, you invoke a very strong concept of subliminal suggestion.

Do they work and how well?

They work as well as how well they are manufactured. If the person making the subliminal suggestion is doing it with a specific intent and has thought out all the ways that he/she can influence you, the directive has a good chance of working quite well.

An important point to know is that generally, one suggestion made to someone may or may not work that effectively, but if you combine several similar suggestions or directives at someone, their subconscious will start to pick up on the concept and start to act on it.

This is why advertisers know that it takes about 7 exposures or more of an advertisement before you fully recognize the message they are trying to get across. Unless the ad was so potent that you had to act on, you wouldn't consciously remember it.

So, subliminal directives most definitely work, it just depends on the skill level of the person doing it, the intent of the person and how receptive the other person is to the suggestion.

In our course, Manipulation, we tell you exactly how to get subliminal directives to work for you to use for business, relationships, romance or just plain fun!
I luv it
written by Guest, February 14, 2005
hate this crying babies all around...
I'm brazilian, and dislike this PSTU partys as well as the most of people I know...
this damned point of view, that the ploblems whitin Brazil are someonelses fault is an excuse for losers!!!!
I think that there are lots of good things to write about Brazil, but those are all the things people like to see, good things. They can't stand some criticism...

Sorry for my bad english...
Cya

cabecaumm@gmail.com
That John...
written by Guest, February 14, 2005
Someone ought to cut his balls off....god damn prick!
Rock on, Fitz
written by Guest, February 16, 2005
I lived in Brasil for over a year. As uninformed about the rest of the world as Americans can be, lots of Brasilians can give us a run for our money...
Just Some Thoughts!!!
written by Guest, February 16, 2005


I have just read Mr. Fitzpatrick’s article and hope that he has managed to remove his tongue from his cheek.

I always make a point of reading JF’s articles on Brazzil, and as I am possibly one of the ‘rational persons who have not agreed with him, and have indeed written to him in the past to say so.

I am English so come from a different country to Mr. Fitzpatrick, for any Brazilians who are interested Scotland is a developing country in the artic circle! (…now for the comments from the Scots…!)

I am married to a Brazilian so do have an interest in Brazil, I do not profess to know much about Brazil from a personal view point, though have visited twice and have read a fair amount about Brazil.

Recommended reading for gringos:

Futebol – The Brazilian Way of Life – Alex Bellos - www.futebolthebrazilianwayoflife.com/

Brazil – Life, Blood, Soul – John Malathronas - http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/spaver.htm

And of course The Rough Guide….kills 10 minutes anyway!

I visit Brazilian places in and around London including Tucanos Restaurant (www.tucanos.co.uk/index.html) and spend the occasional evening in Guanabara nightclub (www.guanabara.co.uk) even listened to the great Socrates doing a Q&A session there.

I did give the article to my wife to read, and she is not in total disagreement with my views, though like all patriotic Brazilians is objectionable to any comments from ignorant gringos.

Brazilian history is as colourful and interesting as any nation could hope to have, it has it all invasion, servitude, exploitation, religious bigotry, imperialism and so on….(similar to England in many ways!)

It is a nation of people who seem to survive against all odds, having visited there and other nations in South America it is a wonder that some things happen at all. (Though I wonder the same with my own country!).

I write the above in the hope that people will understand that I am not anti Brazilian though having read some of the replies feel I need to support JF.

Brazilians do have a tendency to blame others for any misfortune that they encounter in life. Whilst it is true that the Americans are responsible for many of the troubles in the world, it is not totally fair to lay the blame of all problems in Brazil at their door, pollution in the Amazon aside.

I will admit that as an ‘Englishman’ (…now the Scots and feminists upset…) I object to being labeled a European (possibly annoyed some Europeans…but who cares?) I still have a lot more in common with an American then with most Europeans, with the exception of the Portuguese of course, a very noble decent race

I always make a point of inviting Americans I meet to join the British Commonwealth, I am sure they have a need to feel secure under a Monarch who can tell them off for being so naughty to Brazil. I am sure they now feel sorry about throwing the tea into the river at Boston (…now the Scots, feminists and Yanks upset…)

There appears to be a perception that us ‘wealthy’ English people all live in mansions drive Rolls Royces and have private jets. The bank declined my application for a mortgage for Kensington Palace and the company was not to keen on up-grading the Ford to a Rolls as for the jet, Concord is now grounded.

Conversely there appears to be a perception over that Brazil is violent country. . Travel agents are advising, possibly for legal reasons, about the dangers of being robbed and assaulted in Brazil. I do think that this is a bit unfair as parts of Europe are as dangerous. The unfortunate thing is that this image is not often helped by such films as City of God, although excellent for so many different reasons, it does give the impression to the un-enlightened that Brazil is full of favelas full of gun toting gangsters. Sky now also has Record available (channel 830) this show ‘Cidade Alerta’ an interesting programme that tries to put a serious point across and ends up almost ‘glamorising’ drug raids and all manner of evils in the city and suburbs of Sao Paulo.

Whilst it would be wrong not to address these issues the Government of Brazil is making an effort to ‘market’ Brazil in a positive light, last years event in ‘Selfridges’ being a case in point. Brazil has a lot to offer in the way of food, music, art, sport (most English people always support Brazil in the World Cup, almost a certainty that Brazil will progress further, though I hope to see a Brazil – England final next time, England win of course!).

Brazil must also encourage outside investment, be it from Japan, Europe and even America though must be aware not to allow itself to become exploited, I come from a country that Brazil possibly financed about 70% of an industrial revolution in the 17th &18th Century.

It is a known secret that America is looking to ‘exploit’ the Amazon for minerals and medicines, yet complains when Brazil produces ‘generic’ clones of drugs to battle its own deceases such as AIDS, a health issue the Brazil has received praise for from the UN no-less, unfortunately the UN only seems able to give praise or condemn and has no real power, an issue for another Blogg site maybe!

The news this week also reported that Lula, I am a supporter of his, signed a trade agreement with another South American country, this is a positive step for Brazil, there is a common language across South America and the days of border disputes are hopefully effectively over. I can’t help but notice there is still a strong ‘belief’ in Che Guevara in Brazil, a united continent was his vision.

To borrow heavily for Kennedy (an American) – ‘Ask not what Brazil can do for you, but what you can do for Brazil’

Mark from England







Still, no one has answered Stick to Oran
written by Guest, February 16, 2005
Go chew on this for a while…

http://www.cpqdusa.com/news/02_1219.html

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:hNi7IlpygPgJ:www.ktiworld.com/pdf/
press_engage_7-20-00.pdf+Brazilian+aerospace+technology&hl=en

http://www.cnen.gov.br/siteingles/ingles.asp

http://www2.petrobras.com.br/tecnologia/ingles/
programas_tecnologicos/inova.stm

http://www.tierramerica.org/2001/0304/article.shtml

http://www.cimmyt.org/Research/Economics/impacts/C6.2.htm

http://farmpolicy.typepad.com/farmpolicy/2004/06/
newspaper_repor.html

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/internet/inimr-
ri.nsf/en/gr114487e.html

http://www.mrree.gub.uy/iiicea/PAISES/Brasil/Brazi
lian%20Space%20Program98.htm

http://64.233.187.104/search?
q=cache:h2lt5MGv87QJ:www.globalsecurity.org/space/
library/report/2003/brazilspace.pdf+Brazilian+spac
e+technology+&hl=en

http://64.233.187.104/search?
q=cache:VZ3UTxxAOc4J:www.onrglobal.navy.mil/report
s/2001/01_02.pdf+Brazilian+space+technology+&hl=en

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/brazil/mis
sile.htm

http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/EE-T1-Osorio.htm

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg93-e.htm

http://www.embratel.com.br/

http://www.fortune.com/fortune/imt/0,15704,446923,
00.html

http://www.inace.com.br/english/profile/profile.ht
m

Remember…”A Loud Mouth and a Narrow Mind goes together!”


John Fitzpatrick and his articles
written by Guest, February 17, 2005
Hi, John: I read your above article and I've read some of your articles before as well. I wish Brazzil didn't publish you anymore, they probably do it because it doesn't cost them anything and you're a native English speaker. What you write shows a very high level of ignorance, and your views on Brazil are limited and superficial at best. You definitely fail to give an accurate and clear portrait of the country, maybe due to your own prejudices about it. Brazil has the complexity that you don't. I suggest you read a lot more than you do and start talking to people who can shed some light onto your limited view-points.
Sincerely, Flávio
ignorance
written by Guest, February 18, 2005
Ah, John, ignorance is bliss and their absurd opinions laid out so well by you hear will merely seem true even more to them. They will never see the ridiculousness of their own ignorance. Oh well. At least those who are intelligent enough can see there is plenty of fault for realities in Brazil and the world to spread around. Clearly people love to blame America, but that is ludicrous. Brazil's history past and present shows clear evidence of Brazilians creating their own problems. Unfortunately, the things they seem to learn from America are negatives to their context. But that hardly makes it logical to blame America for keeping them from their potential. I love Brazil, even though I am a foreigner, and am longing to live there. I know many Brazilians are hardworking, intelligent and just want to find a way to make a better life and succeed for them and their family. Too bad others are willing to waste their time bitching and never do anything to change things. If they stopped pointing the finger at everyone else and started focusing on fixing their internal problems, perhaps Brazilians might help their country actually reach its potential. Other countries have had the same problem with failing to look at their own internal issues while focusing on the problems of others. Nothing ever gets accomplished that way. Appreciate your sense of irony and humor in writing this.
Does not understand?
written by Guest, February 18, 2005
So JF doesn't understand Brasil at any level? At least his writing acknowledges real problems AND some of their sources that many Brasilians fail to recognize or admit. I have yet to read a Brasilian response to JF that implies an understanding of the points he makes and continues to make so well.
John Keep writing!!
written by Guest, February 23, 2005
John your articles are always cherished here, you provide a needed service to Gringos fantasizing about Brazil - by giving them a much needed slap of reality - added to that, you´re extremely well informed and give us ex-pats who actually live here and share similar experiences to your own a surplus of information to ponder. It´s nice to see a political analysis that isn´t trying to sell a country that doesn´t exist.

You write well, you´re entertaining and always relevant and topical.

There is a knee-jerk reaction at times in this country to foreigners discussing Brazilian issues (the ole "Amo-o ou deixa-o" mentality), don´t let these nationalistic petty pokes get in the way of your contributions to this site.
John Keep writing!! 2
written by Guest, February 23, 2005
Would stick to English? Your Portuguese SUCKS....How did you come up with such grammatic absurdity ""Amo-o ou deixa-o".

Final Grade:

Portuguese = F
English = D

Now get lost or go chew on a BIG Mac.....Americano Burro!
...
written by Guest, February 24, 2005
Nice to see the Brasilians being polite again - f**king monkeys.
...
written by Guest, February 24, 2005
Would stick to English?

That makes no sense...
how to keep scots out of your country
written by Guest, February 25, 2005
1. build a 3 foot high wall
2. beat them at football


shoulen't be to hard for a bunch of brazilians
Now, now children!
written by Guest, February 27, 2005
I am not sure what is worse.

Brazilians pretending they are ignorent...

or

Americans writing and putting the matter beyond all doubt...!
...
written by Guest, March 01, 2005
1. build a 3 foot high wall
2. beat them at football

shoulen't be to hard for a bunch of brazilians

That was funny. I’ve no doubt Brazilians could and would achieve the second point, however, I have my doubts they could successfully complete the first properly.
Gringo Burro
written by Guest, March 14, 2005
I was born and raised in Brasil graduating from high school (one of the top institutions in Rio) before immigrating overseas. Beyond that, I have lots of family in Rio, and I travel extensively internationally including Brasil, at least twice a year, on pleasure or business. Thus, I can tell you without reservations that I do understand the Brasilian psyche better then you ever will.

I am stupid gringo with some Scottish ancestry

You
graduating from high school (one of the top institutions in Rio)

I travel extensively internationally

at least twice a year, on pleasure or business

Are Telling us that you are rich, educated - o seja elite!

I do understand the Brasilian psyche better then you ever will.

Your understanding of the "Brasilian psyche" would be according to your own sel agrandizing description be better than mine, because you are elite and I am not!

I am not Fitzpatric, just a gringo with working class imigrint grandparents

Gringo Burro
I WANT TO TRAVEL OUT OF MY COUNTRY
written by Guest, July 03, 2005
PLS I NEED SOMEONE TO SEND ME INVITATION SO AS TO SHOW THE WORLD MY TALENT.MY EMAIL (MOHAMMED_SHOPS@YAHOO.COM.BYE.
...
written by Guest, July 26, 2005
Brazil is a great Country because of his people. But like any other country has problems, especially with China. It's china getting all the soy from Brazil ( deforestation comes from all the farming of soy to feed China) al their raw iron and a lot more is going to china so they can exploit their people even more.
...
written by Guest, September 10, 2005
AMERICA SAVED YOUR ASSES BITCH
If you hate Brazil so much, why are you
written by Guest, February 05, 2006
Oh, it's because you are earning a very good living here and you don't have the ethics not to bite the had that is feeding you so generously.

As an American living in Brazil, I feel I know a lot more about both countries than you will ever bother to learn despite your self-proclaimed "education".

You think what you see in São Paulo is Brazil. It is not any mmore than Glasgow, one of the ugliest cities on earth, is Scotland.

I have yet to see anything you've written that is not sarcastic, insulting, and uninformed. Why this site continues to let you spew vitriol is a mystery to me. If you ever get ouver the dour Scots attitude, you could be a real contribution to the site. As it is, you're arrogant attitude toward anyone that does not share your own distorted world view makes you a sad example of outsiders telling Brazilians how to run their country.
usa # 1
written by Guest, May 20, 2006
be patient little ones we will get to you soon enough your rabid anti americanism is not going unoticed. chavez, castro, lula,
Portuga
written by Carlos Barbosa, December 26, 2006
The Portuguese were not really to blame because they were ( and still are) funny people whom Brazilians make jokes about. The Portuguese were just puppets of the British and all Brazil’s gold ended up in London.

You piece of s**t! How dear you call the Portuguese British puppets! You don't know what the hell your talking about!
It was Britain that conned your country in getting your independence from Portugal. Brazil payed England with Portuguses gold
that belonged to Portugal, Brazil gave it to England and that is why you have been granted your independence. Portugal accepted it, provided that England gave Portugal money for the lost gold. You make fun of the Portuguese.........

Look at yourselves. Brazilians are stupid. You wanted your independence and you got it and you..Still are back in time...
Even India is ahead of Brazil, fooooooolsssssss!
shocked about his views on america
written by Pete, February 03, 2008
I can't fathom John wrote that 9-11 was almost a good thing! And the deaths of 3000 people was a little pity.
What is he an Al-queda operative?
Does he spend his holdidays in Afghanistan in training camps? If he was brought in for questioning could
he tell us where Osama bin laden is?

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