Brazzil

Condi Rice has been mentored to possibly be the next US President. Bush's dad put Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court. GW Bush has worked hard to put blacks and women in the top parts of government. I'm glad we in the US right-wing are DOING things to advance the black community while the closet racists on the left are trying to condemn blacks to dependence on government programs. Republicans freed the slaves and Republican have a plan for black prosperity. It's called an "ownership society".

An interesting topic coming from a PT Senator. When you where running for office Mr. Senator, did you not offer solutions? Your party, with it's recent defeats in the elections and now congress is done, cooked, over, at least most of you finally realize what a burro your leader Lula is, what a failure...two more years of mediocrity, crime, and the elite prospering, and we will be done with you. the first poster missed the point completly, in Brasil, injustice is not based on the coor of your skin, but in the size of your wallet, while the back are disproportionatly poor, black and white poor live together in the same poor barrios. I do see the similarities between South Africa and Brasil, something I have never consdidered before, but instead of writting bulls**t articles that do no good, why not start doing what you are paid to do, and work on resolving them. And to the first poster, why do you gringos, who have no knowledge of Brasil, continue to compare the US to Brasil, it is an excercise in futility, apples and oranges, OK, OK, we admit it, you are a great place. But your comments uncover your own lack of education, and the ability to have a single though for yourself. I think the best thing about the US,is that even a moron like this can learn a trade like changing oil at Jiffy Lube and make a living...I wish it was the same here. It could be, if the government removed the taxes, lowered the intrest rates, and the governemnt buracucy that strangles all of us, then perhaps businesses could provide the answers we so deperatly seek by adding good jobs and benefits to hardworking citizens.

What the first guy posted is so true. In the US people are always attacking the Republicans as evil and racist, but come on! Never in our history has there been so many people of color in such high positions within the government. Now we even have the first Latino attorney general. I think this is interesting, and it says a lot about hypocracy in our country.

What does Condolece Rice, Colin Powell, Clarence Thomas, or even Jessie Jackson have to do with this article? Its why American's are so hated now, no matter what the forum or arena, what is being talked about, be it shrimp farming in Brazil, or the Chinese New Years, it's always about them, the US...geez, gringos, give us a break here. We are all proud of your accomplishments in regards to advancing the races, but is this really the place to wave the red, white and blue...will you all ever get it, we don't give a s**t.

If you see an example that works, why bother to continue attempting the unproven. It is an article about race. It looks like YOU want Brazilian blacks to stay in the favela instead of becoming business onwers like they do in the US.

...does not solve anything if they are incompetent

nobody should be appointed to a position of power solely on basis of skin color or social background - the positions should be given to people most capable of performing to a high level

this applies to any nation, whether it be Brasil, the United States, France or the Democratic Republic of Congo

But the article has little to do with race, it's focus is on social injustice, and makes a very accurate comparison to South Africa elite and the Brasilian elite. But the author, our PT friend who so accuratly points out the problems, presents no solutions...a very common trait of his political party. The gringo poster who asks us "to fall on our faces", does not understand Brasil, or the decades of poor policy that has got us here. It is very easy to say "do it like the US does", but this is a childish statement at best, the US possess the financial resources we do not, the problems are different, but I will respect his opinion. No change will finally come, when our government takes the shackles off of our hands, and allows everyone in Brasil, black, white, rich and poor to benefit from a robust economy.

I am from the U.S. and I thank you for expressing your views. I am not a gringo first of all, but I do relate to the frustrations of people in Brazil. This country has - not all - but too many people who think of themselves as masters of the world. The reality (versus hard-headed, defiant, juvinile behavior) is that in the areas of trade and regional stability we need each other. However, this admittedly can only be done if U.S. citizens learn respect for culture which they now do not do. How about this "Who gives a s**t" instead of getting angry when we Americans display our pride respond with something special about Brazil or a Brazilian historical fact in the positive.

I don’t know what to make of this anymore: on one side, there is Mr. Zimmermann’s right wing ‘exposés’ of the Brazilian judicial system, where owners of unproductive farmland are victimized by politicized, leftist judges and Marxist catholic priests. On the other, there is Senator Buarque’s somewhat disillusioned view of his Workers Party, which, according to his articles, is not as to the left as it should be, and who defends the view that the Brazilian poors are victimized by the “non-poors”, and, unfortunately, segregated, among other things, by the fact that those with money won’t marry those without.

Now, let’s see, where do I stand on these issues? My great-grandparents (which were all catholic, all the eight of them), immigrated from various countries of Europe to Brazil in the late XIX century. They didn’t bring with them any wealth (heck! One of them was 12 years old, and went alone!), but they worked hard to build something for their kids (my grandparents); they never had slaves. Although all my grandparents went to school, none got a higher education degree. However, they made a point of making sure my parents did. Indeed, my parents had to work to pay for their higher education, and both graduated with a law degree; one of my uncles, though, has a small but productive farm. My brothers and I probably had it easier: I graduated from one of the best public universities in Brazil and never had to pay a penny for my education; my brothers weren’t so willing to move out, so they got parental help in paying for their higher education (remember: our parents are both lawyers, therefore they must be rich and somehow sneaky and manipulative); my brothers are both health care professionals in Brazil. Following the nomadic genes of my forefathers, I emigrated – not after a better life overseas, but for the sheer adventure of it. My child is recognized as a citizen by three different countries, none of those in Europe. We all pay taxes.

Oh, s**t, no!!!! It’s all so clear now! I should apologize for being a wealthy, well-educated, tax-paying, catholic Brazilian leaving abroad. Look, it was not my intention to cause all these social problems to anyone. Blame it on my great-grandparents! If they had any idea of the terrible evil they were doing when they settled in Brazil, some hundred-and-some years ago, I am sure they would bury their heads in shame and return to whatever hell-hole they came from in the Old World. I am really sorry, everyone, really!

(The cloth drops; the lights fade…)

Parabens...you have hit the big time, and all of us in Brasil will now bow down before you, what an ego... if it's true, you may be cutting the gringos lawns in Florida. We would probably agree on many points, as I too believe that success is possible in Brasil...but it is much easier for the children of rich landowners employing slave labor in the North and North East.Come on, my rich Brazilian ex-pat friend with kids with three passports, your family were farmers that integrated from Europe and they did not have slaves? Give me a break, not even Lula could swallow that one, and he has a pretty good apetite. I graduated from the public university too, but I'll bet your parents were able to put you through good private schools so you could pass the entrance exams...at least I admit it. Hw many kids come from the public school system to the university...does zero sound about right. And then talk about some type of affirmative action program for education, all your rich kids riot, I wish the cops used rubber bullets instead of water hoses. You have been away to long, in fact YOU should turn in your passport, as you care nothing of your ex-country or it's people. There is no need for you to apoligize, as a previous poster put it, you are a gringo now...and who really gives a s**t what you think. But I don't blame our problems on you or your great grandparents, they are the fault of all Brasilians, as we must take responsibility for the state we are in, and articles from a PT Senator sure don't help.

The poster above is a joke. The farmers who came from europe to brazil arrived AFTER the abolishon of slavery. In fact the were brought over due to the labor shortages that would arise since bringing blacks from africa was going to be illegal. Some arrives and settled on farms given by the government, some wprked as farmhands to pay for the trip then aquired land and others worked on railroad contructions.
Cara vc deveria averiguar os fatos antes de escrever. Eu não sou o " its all my fault" + minha familia tem uma historia parecida com a dele. Deixe de falar besteiras e procure estudar a historia de sua nação. Poderias começar com a historia de sua propria familia.

You are a moron if you think that your ansestors and other famers stopped trading and using slaves after slavery was abolished in Brasil, clandestine slavery continued in the north into the early 1900's, I thought you were a Brasilian, did you not know slavery is still a problem in the country today?I'll bet your rich farmer family knows. Don't give us that rich social liberal bulls**t, you grew up with. We love it when the elite tell everyone...gee we don't do anything wrong, it's everyone else's fault. We are glad you picked up and crossed the river in Mexico, brothers like you are the problem not the solution. Did you know that your rich family farmer and friends just convinced the police to raid encampments with poor rural workers, murdering several. Your the joke, you don't know Brasil any more, you and people like you have raped and pilaged, and left the mess you have made because you are afraid to live with it...thanks a lot, don't try that "my wandering family roots bulls**t here, we all know you. Those family farmers who now own huge tracts of farmland in Brasil are murders and criminals, and in most countries would be behind bars. You rich farm kids that get the finest private schools, graduate our free universities, and then leave...what good was my tax dollars when I paid for YOUR education, if you really are who you say, you would have much more pride than admitting on this on this site you are the worst of Brasilians.

I'm not sure how to expresses my feelings about this, guess I'll have to sound like a nazi. What's all this guilt about being from the aristocracy, from the bourgeois, you bloody bureaucrat, pseudo-intelectual. You who actually care, who loath mediocracy, who would probably succeed in capitalism, crime, communism, or in the jungle. You who actually care to speak like modern day person, who learns how things work instead of always acting by instinct. When you get mugged, rapped,beaten on the beach or the downtown, you flee from it, what else can you do, certainly most don't have the guts to carry a revolver. The only way to help the under-priviledged, is to turn them in what you loath, that is, what you are, a bloody aristocrat. When people work all year to buy a costume every february, you can infer there is something deeply wrong, but that is what they value, they loath what you value.As long people are educated, and are not trying to be a hypocrite by enjoying the benefits of being an aristocrat, and claiming moral superiority because of their color or background, I really don't care what color they are. The only way to truly help the under-priviledged is to educate their children, supposing they want their children to be aristocrats, the others, well, I don't expect much.

It was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity.

these bastards are responsible all of the problems on this planet, including the racism in brazil, by supporting the oligarchic and racist right wing criollo/blanco oligarchy in brazil and in other latin american countries.

what a crazy racism!!!

NPOV go back to your KKK and racist den you evil racist.

we do not need red neck clans like you in this web page.

the author of this article like the rest of the PT authors provide no solutions.

it is amazing that coming from such poor background, PT party leader lula, has not been able to provide any solutions to the myriad problems that have been facing brazil. all talk and no action - the PT motto.

the lands and all haciendas should have been divided and distributed to the campesinos. instead the rich continue to shoot and kill poor small farmers and poor people like they have been doing all the time all over brazil.

what a pathetic and hypocritical party is the PT? they are not doing anything to help the masses of the country, but rather are looking after the pockets of the oliogarchy and the rich IMF and the world bank.

what a joke. no affirmative action, no land reform, but only more money for the gringos and the oligarchy and the IMF and the world bank.

brazil needs a chavez not a pathetic and sell out fool like lula da silva, who has now gotten accustomed to the bourgeoisie way of life and have forgotten his roots.

what a sad story for brazil.

lets try to get some things straight.

1. Most of the people who are succesful farmers in present day brazil are descendents os european immigrants who settled in the south-east or the south of brazil. Actually these people drove these feudalistic farmers from the ortheast out of buisiness. The old landowners in brazil were landowners and not really farmers. They did not know much about farming and succeded due to lack of competition. This changed. Today these old fashioned landowners are a tiny minority and don´t even produce anything profitable. Many of them sold their land to the government for land reform actually because there was no economic sense of them still having it. Yet you will find a few cases of forved labor in the amazon and the northeast. If you cannot tell the diference between and overwhelming majority and a tiny minoity it is either because you are stupid or because you don´t want to see it since this would destroy your little "social" conflict.
2. What happened in goiania has nothing to do with farmland. It is about two groups, land developers who wish to build homes and other contructions for a profit and had their land invaded by those who feel they have a right to free land to build their homes and buisinesses. This is the conflict in goiania. if you want to talk about it at least learn how to diferenciate it from farming.
Secondly you are a hipocrite. You call us the "rich brazilian farm kids" and then try to insult us by saying we swam to the united states illegally and we cut grass in florida. This says a lot about you since you consider cutting grass an inferior activity.This is contradictory with your " oh the poor rural workers " discourse sine they do cut grass " capinar". You seem to be ashamed of such an activity.
Listen dude, pay close attention and try to understand this. Brazil is going thru an agricultural boom since 30 years ago brazil stopped subsidizing its farmers hence getting rid of those unfit for agriculture including many of those old fashioned landowners. Today jobs are plety in the brazilian country side and this number could increase substancially if the europeans and americans dropped their farm subsidies. This would create jobs for brazilians and many of those poor rural workers you patronize so much could be making up to 3 thousand reais just for 2 months of work in the harves season. Yet those overseas who want to continue subsidizing their agriculture and keep this from happening always find an ally in an IDIOT like you who doesn´t know his facts and perpetuates a myth , a situation that does not exist in the brazilian countryside for over 30 years. YOU ARE AN IDIOT, VAI SER BURRO ASSIM NA PQP. VC AJUDA OS DEFENSORES DOS SUBSIDIOS AMERICANOS E EUROPEUS COM SUA IGNORANCIA.

...better than I expected! You guys been a wonderful and dynamic audience!

(Bows, and leaves for the second time)

por reinaldo azevedo
www.primeiraleitura.com

Escatologia balduínica

Na quarta-feira de manhã, havia quatro corpos em Anapu, e não três, como noticiou a maior parte da mídia. É que um deles não era considerado um homem do “lado do bem”. Um bispo lhe negou o direito a uma alma, e a mídia leiga lhe tirou o direito a um corpo
Por Reinaldo Azevedo


O SIGNO: eis a deusa de certas convicções políticas, que pretendem chegar à redenção por meio da morte
Nos últimos dois anos do governo FHC, morreram 34 pessoas em conflitos agrários. Nos dois primeiros anos de governo Lula, foram 61. Nos 23 primeiros meses deste governo, fizeram-se 538 invasões de terra, contra 497 nos anos 2000, 2001 e 2002. A média mensal, portanto, saltou de 13,8 naqueles anos para 23,4 na gestão do PT. Lula também assenta muito menos gente e, dado seu ritmo, precisaria ficar 12 anos no poder para fazer o que seu antecessor fez em 8: assentar 635 mil famílias.

Em porcentagem, pois, ficamos assim: sob esta espetacular e magnífica gestão Lula, assenta-se 33,33% menos, mata-se 74% mais, num cenário em que as invasões cresceram 68,8%. Invasões que são tidas pelo MST, parceiro do governo na promoção política do massacre, como o único meio eficiente para fazer a reforma agrária. Convenhamos: não se conseguem esses números só com incompetência. É preciso haver também a determinação de derramar muito sangue. E, antes que os lulistas me dirijam os impropérios costumeiros, tenham a hombridade de dizer se esses números são falsos ou verdadeiros.

Ora, se, do ponto de vista humano, estamos diante do desastre, o que é revelado pelo número crescente de mortos; se, do ponto de vista da eficiência estrita do governo, idem (já que se assenta muito menos), João Pedro Stedile, por sua vez, não pode reclamar. O sucesso de seu movimento não se mede pelas terras distribuídas, mas pelas áreas invadidas. Não fosse assim, ele deveria propor que se erguesse uma estátua a FHC, aquele cujo governo assentava mais, num tempo em que se matava muito menos, e botar Lula na boca do sapo, já que assenta menos, e sua política mata muito mais.

E por que não o faz? A resposta é tão simples quanto tétrica: porque cadáveres são importantes para a causa; cadáveres são o sal da terra da ideologia redentora. E isso vale até mesmo para a Comissão Pastoral da Terra e seus bispos e padres incendiários: há toda uma escatologia, um finalismo ideológico, nesses adoradores de ossos. Os mortos ajudam a atualizar a mística da luta do bem contra o mal.

Não há desculpa possível nem justificativa. Os números falam mais do que qualquer coisa que alguém possa dizer, o que inclui este escriba. Quem rearmou o gatilho do campo, quem revitalizou um movimento que caminhava para o esmorecimento, JUSTAMENTE PORQUE A REFORMA AGRÁRIA ESTAVA SENDO FEITA, foram Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva e o PT. A CPT divulga agora a lista das pessoas que estariam marcadas para morrer. São tão responsáveis por ela o governo Lula, que decidiu não aplicar a lei antiinvasões, como aqueles que fazem as ameaças.

Ora, é claro que as invasões não cresceram porque o problema agrário ficou mais agudo. Até porque seria um absurdo lógico: quanto mais se assenta, menor deveria ser a pressão, certo? A origem da escalada de invasões e de mortes é a impunidade. Quem promete abris vermelhos demonstra determinação de espalhar ideologia, mas também o sangue de seus inocentes úteis, de seus mártires. Uma política fundiária que assenta menos e promove mais invasões e mais mortes é uma política assassina e anti-social.

Dom Tomás Balduíno e seus hereges econômicos aproveitam o assassinato da missionária Dorothy Stang para voltar à sua ladainha contra o agronegócio. Por mais absurda que pareça a diatribe, ela faz todo sentido. Imagine só se o capitalismo chegar, para valer, a todo o campo brasileiro. Onde estarão os deserdados para que ele venda o reino dos céus aos pedaços, cobrando-lhes apenas um pedágio ideológico e alguns sub venites? Onde estarão os sem-terra de Stedile, base que alimenta o maior e mais rico aparelho político do país chamado MST?

À ideologia (tanto quanto esta já não seja, de per si, má-fé), junta-se a má-fé propriamente dita: o caso Dorothy Stang tem um viés bastante particular em relação à questão fundiária no resto do país. A missionária atuava, na verdade, num lugar que é uma espécie de fronteira econômica. Do ponto de vista estritamente legal, tanto os que estão sob o abrigo político dos religiosos locais como os que os hostilizam se movem num vazio jurídico. É uma luta política. E morre gente dos dois lados. Mas precisa parar de morrer.

Misturar as duas vertentes de problemas, como se o que se dá no Pará fosse idêntico ao que ocorre em Pernambuco ou no Pontal do Paranapanema, em São Paulo, é só acrescentar confusão às poças de sangue. O cadáver da freira — que já deriva do fato de que o Estado mal chegou à região, deixando o confronto na mão de ONGs e de aventureiros — está sendo usado como aríete político para tentar impor ao país uma leitura parcial da realidade. O conflito no centro do Pará nada tem a ver com o esbulho possessório praticado pelo MST no resto do Brasil e com a pletora de mortes. E, aqui, sim, uma denúncia: não sabemos nem a metade dessa missa macabra. Muito mais gente more sem que nenhum dos lados acione o Estado. Todo mundo decidiu fazer justiça segundo o seu próprio tribunal.

MST e CPT pretendem, agora, cobrir, com o corpo da freira, a ilegalidade cotidiana que promovem, deslocando a natureza particular do conflito no Pará para o resto do país, onde, dia a dia, obscurecem com suas lonas pretas o Estado de Direito. E o fazem patrocinados pelo governo federal, que lhes repassa verba da reforma agrária e não lhes cobra nenhuma responsabilidade — mesmo o movimento liderado por João Pedro Stedile não tendo sequer existência legal.

De resto, cumpre observar que a estrepitosa movimentação de tropas no Pará — necessária, dada a tensão que lá se instalou — evidencia, ela também, um dos aspectos mais condenáveis do governo Lula: é movido a propaganda e a simbolismos vis. Não fosse a repercussão da morte de uma religiosa americana, ainda que naturalizada brasileira, nada aconteceria. Tudo se esgotaria na retórica do ministro José Dirceu, segundo quem as mortes decorrem da presença firme do Estado na região. Imaginem, então, se o governo decidisse ampliar essa presença: 100% de Estado por lá corresponderia a uma guerra de extermínio. É um governo que, não se sentindo obrigado a cumprir a lei, também não se obriga a ser sequer lógico. Perdoem-me a dureza, mas uma administração que faz questão de ser antitucana exibe o inequívoco vôo do urubu: onde houver um cadáver que possa ser politicamente explorado, lá está ele deitando fora suas prosopopéias e sua retórica necrófila.

Assim se comporta no caso da freira, assim se comporta no caso dos dois mortos em Goiânia, na desocupação de uma invasão urbana. Lá estava Nilmário Miranda, secretário nacional dos Direitos Humanos, para prestar a sua solidariedade e pedir investigação para saber se houve excessos da polícia. Está certo. Seu lugar era lá mesmo. Como era ao lado da família de Luiz Pereira da Silva, o policial assassinado num assentamento do MST em Quipapá, em Pernambuco. Mas quê... Só interessam os cadáveres que possam frutificar novos cadáveres, que sirvam à escatologia balduínica. Assim também foi enterrado, na mesma Anapu, Adalberto Xavier Leal, funcionário de uma pessoa inicialmente vista como suspeita de mandante da morte da freira. Com meio dia de investigação, descartou-se que se tratasse de vingança.

A distorção é de tal sorte e é tal o encabrestamento ideológico a que está submetido o noticiário que, havendo quatro corpos em Anapu na manhã de quarta-feira, a maioria dos veículos, incluindo as TVs, falavam em apenas três mortos. Sabem por quê? O tal Leal não entrava na conta. Como ele não estava do lado do “bem”, assim como o pio dom Balduíno lhe nega o direito a uma alma, a mídia leiga nega o direito a um corpo. Ele tornou-se um ninguém. Como aquele Silva de Pernambuco.

PS: Eis os mortos: Dorothy Satang, a freira; Adalberto Xavier Leal; trabalhador que não estava sentado à direita de dom Balduíno; Daniel Soares Costa Filho, ligado a uma associação de assentados, e Cláudio Dantas Nunes, um trabalhador rural. Quatro, não três. E, aí sim, há fortes indícios de que o sindicalista morreu num acerto de contas (literalmente) entre assentados. Mas cadáver útil não é coisa que se desperdice.

Goias is Brasilian agri-country, as is the Sao Paulo interior, and PB. The dispute is about building homes? You must be out of your mind. The dispute is about people, on who's backs your "mega-agriculture-machine" was built with for so many years, at little or no wage, finally speaking out about injustice. Give me a break, do you really think that the new profits being created by Brasil's agricultural boom are ending up in the pockets of rural workers? Boy, your parents really did a brain wash job on you. I will apoligize for one thing, "cutting someones" grass to make ends meet is not dishonorable, I understand why the poor leave and do so. What pisses us off, is the ones like you who have a silver spoon, get a free education at the public university, paid for by the taxpayer, leaving Brasil to live a more capitalistic life, then having the balls to critisize your prior country. You are proud you kids hold three passports? OK...but I never want my kids to hold anything other than a Brasilian passport. They are not American, English, or French...but Brasilians. How proud you must be that you made them something else. You made a choice to leave Brasil, OK, no problem. But don't fill the fourm with lies and fantasy, about the great landowners, even the ones you site in the south who came here as Nazis. What Brasil needs is some measure of equality, when not only rich kids like you at least have the option to leave Brasil and become rich. Until that happens, real Brasilians who stay, work, and live Brasil, have nothing for disdain for the likes of you.

Brazil, like America, is still a racist country that has profitted from black poverty and exploitation and still continues to do so today. America is NO better. They have a few token blacks in positions of power but the average black AMerican is poor and destitute. An illegal immigrant can come to America and partake of economic opportunities still closed to the average black.

Condi Rice, like Colin Powell, is an embarassment to black people. The American government uses them for their dirty purposes. America is still a country full of racist white terrorist organizations that the US govt is doing nothing to stop. Instead they waste time and resources chasing Islamic "terrorists" who are no real threat to the country.

Neither Brazil nor AMerica nor the other former slave holding countries are willing to admit to their past, present and future racism and genocide towards blacks and Native peoples. Both countries remain backwards and retarded as the Far East catches up and will soon surpass all of the backwards assed racist bigotred nations.

Countermand my points, Mr. "I love the poor", you loathsome bourgeois. How can you harbor love for the poor and hate for red necks at the same time?

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Re: OK...but I never want my kids to hold anything other than a Brasilian passport.

My kids are American and will most likely carry a Brazilian passport. It's ok with me. All I ask is that when they are in Brazil, to walk with a swagger and take pride in their superior American lineage. I want them to understand that Brazil is a lost cause; Brazilian is citizenship to only useful to make some money. I want them to enjoy walking high and mighty as a superior visiting an inferior nation. Learning Portuguese is easy! I should have know if a Brazilian can learn it, anyone can! Portuguese jokes should be replaced with Brazilian jokes.

But why did you marry a Brasilera if you are convinced being Brazilian is so bad? It's cool, now we know your comments are from the American side which now makes perfect sense. Your "superior American linage", and "high and mighty nation" is one you should be proud of. We are certainly proud of ours, but you are a perfect example of what America has become, and you, and everyone like you just can't seem to get it in your closed minds, that not everyone wants to be American.. in fact about 95% of the world hate you. Yea, so bring your gringo kids down , who don't even speak the language of the of the passport they are carrying, spend your gringo dollars, and then return to Gringolandia, it is the perfect arrangement, as we are always glad to be rid of you once you have spent, or we have taken all of your money...we much prefer our European, Canadian, Aussie, and yes even Middle Eastern friends to you...and they are much easier to look at on the beach than all of you McDonald eating, white big bellyed Americanos. And if my kids see your on the beach, I'll make sure they get the ass kicking the deserve, knock that "swagger" right out of em. Cause down here...we don't play.

Ok guy, that's just stupid, let me teach how it is done.

If by superior lineage you mean not being able to find a American women to mary you, and after marying a third wolder feeling you done her a favor by saving her and her blood line, well, I won't discuss...

My kids will learn Portuguese with ease because it's hard to resist the temptation to show lazy stupid people who don't speak English, just how easy it is to learn languages. "Cause down here...we don't play." ... I know, it's a criminal society. "we have taken all of your money" ....$500 lasts me over 30 days in Brazil. "knock that "swagger" right out of em".... No problem, grab the rental car and run over them! Its ok for a 10 yr old to drive in Brazil with a good bribe. As far as I'm concerned American's with money are under no obligation to obey ANY law or social norm in Brazil. We're like Hitler, right? Got the name, play the game!

I dissagree with the above post but i can understand why someone would be so frustrated with brazil because of people like the "burro".
Burro says most of the money agriculture makes in brazil does not stay in brazil. Where id you arrive upon this? Please do enlighten us with NUMBERS.
Most brazilian farmers of german ancestry are not nazis nor do they descend from nazis since the mass amount of german immigration to brazil took place BEFORE A WORLD WAR 2 ( yes, as i stated before picking up a history book or a book about immigration to brazil would have kept you from making that mistake but you insist on repeating cliches instead of learning).
Public university education is free in brazil because THE UNIONS, THE LEFT, THE PT AND ALL THE LEFTIST PARTIES MANY INFLUENTAIL TEACHERS BELONG TO, DO NOT ALLOW A TUITION TO BE CHARGED.
I think a tuition should be charged and scholarships should be granted on merit and not race nor income brackets. Why? because we need the best students in those universities and we need the tuition payments from all amongst those students to invest in primary and seconday education so to REALLY break the cycle of lack of opportunity and not have a cosmetic solution like the one this PT government wants to impose with its proposed university reform.
Vouchers for students during primary and secondary education would also be of enormous use since then all students could choose between schools instead of being stuck in opublic schools. This would bring competition and would improve all schools, public and private.
All these changes would bring an enourmous benefit to millions of brazilians but an encroached elite does not allow for them. What elite? the rich farmers and industrialist? NO , the bloodsucking civil servants and teachers in the brazilian public education system that don´t want their benefits altered regardless of how many students this would benefit.
So they protect the status quo ( current situation ) by marching on the streets, going on strikes and yelling " educação publica e gratuita". As if anything is free in life, as if their salaries were heaven sent instead of being paid by the tax payer. THE SAD THING IS THAT THEY FIND BURROS that support them since they can´t really think things out and any anti-american or anti-capitilistic chant will entice them to join any cause.
This is why while i disagree with the insults against brazil posted by the guy whose kids have 3 passports i can understand his frustration.
By the way, a passport does not change a persons personality. It is just a document that may make life less dificult. Hence a person who was born in the united states adn grew up there and gets say a german passport will at heart always be american and the same coiuld be said for a brazilian in the same situation who acquires a foreign passport.

Once again, you miss the point. You have been away so long you feel that the social and educational problems are easily solved by "vouchers"? Do you really feel the government has the funds to voucher a poor kid into a good private school? Your clueless man. It's an endless circle, the Public Universites are great schools in Brasil, they turn out educated people like you and me that can actually use our degrees to get good jobs, or start a business. But as you know, the qualifications and examinations to enter the University are very competitive. Only kids, who had a private school education posses a chance of entering the Public Universites. Don't you find it ironic that kids who are doomed to public education have little chance of getting into a Public University filled with the children of the elite, these are quite simply the facts. Your scorn for the "blood sucking" civil servants and teachers is typical of your class as well. The bloodsucking done within our governement, is done at the high levels, government officals, judges, and high ranking military officers rape our country. The workers you show such disdian for can't suck too much blood at R$800 - $1500 a month, the salary of a public school teacher. With such an important job, do not public school teachers have a right to ask for more pay, while the elite (you) continue to vote for pay and retirement raises? And the "good farmer" bulls**t is just that, bulls**t, these farming familes got rich on the backs of our working poor and slavery, oppression still rules they day in the agri-areas, piss off the landowners and you will get a visit from men with rifles and black hoods. Your view of Brasil is from the view of about 20% of the Brasilian people, and from another country...your view is very good, so is mine. But millions suffer in poverty, and sickness, unable to provide the basic needs for their familes, it's not someone elses problem...it's ours...well not yours, as you bailed out.

I believe the whole education system is rotten, but the R$800-1500+ blood suckers aren't as benign as you think. They feel teaching is a ironclad passport to a decent retirement, where teaching is the least of their problems, keeping the job from decent new teachers. Once they grow roots, it's almost impossible to remove them from a public school, teaching like you would preach gospel, and enforcing order by fear, breaking the spirit of 40 generations. How do you change such cycle? I'm young, and maybe I'm not as high in the elite as some of you, but since when or how does the social status of your parents trickle down to you after you're 18? Certain it is not possible to pay tuition with a part job in Brazil...

Jesus what is needed to get people to start looking at numbers and use logic afterwards.
The succefull brazilian farmers did NOT become so due to slavery or anything else. These farmers acquied wealth in these last 20-30 years. Get it thru your brain that such farmers developed crops thanks to research and competence. Most of the cerrado soya growers along with other crops came from the south were their parensts or grandparents had small to meduim size plots to farm and DID NOT HAVE SLAVES since they arrived after slavery and were settled in regions were everybody else was an immigrant and there were no blacks. WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR YOU TO UNDERSANT SIMPLE HISTORY. Danm it is frustration to write to a person that can´t even bother to study these things before they start vomiting falsehoods.
VOUCHERS I HOPE THIS LOGIC DOES NOT MELT YOUR BRAIN)
If students were given vouchers then the school sistem would have to compete for those vouchers so it is not a question of affording the currrent tuition of private schools since many of those tuitions would change under such a sistem, some would not and would still cater to the very rich but some meduim tuition good private schools would lower their tuition and many new schools wanting to educate those students with vouchers would spring up to cater for this new demand. In the end education as a whole would improve. There would still be discreptancies between schools but quality IN GENERAL would rise. Can you fathom this or is your brain too puluted with ideology and classwarfare to comprehend?
The teachers of both public universities and public primary and secondary school do not want this due to obvious reasons. While it is true that many higher ranked civil servants retire with a huge pension we must still look at the facts. Most of brazilian state spending goes to those 800-1500 reais salaries and pensions. YOu incredible think that these people should be afforded something due to the pensions judges and the military receive as if to say that ONE MISTAKE JUSTIFIES ANOTHER MISTAKE.
PELOAMORDEDEUS. APRENDA A PENSAR, A ESTUDAR E A USAR A LOGICA.

These people get selective deafness. Either you put them and friends in the lap of luxury for no effort or you're a Nazi Capitalist that exploits the poor.

Americans always thinking they are superior, and Brasilians fall into their trap...don't respond to these inconsequential Americans!

Neither Brasil or the US are equitable in racial relations, so if you don't have something constructive to say, SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE...Imbecils!

Nutty boy the post "typically wrong" was written by a brazilian. I wrote it.

Agra business, and education. First, do you think that since you left Brasil that it has all of a sudden turned into a developed country? Vouchers geez, you must have got this from Bush. How do you expect the Brasilian Government to manage a mega program like school vouchers? The can't even get Bolsa Familia right, or Fome Zero, it's ridden with corruption, and it does not help the children or families it was ment to. Yea, another big govenrment program, vouchers for kids to go to school, what breed of new corrupt criminal would that produce? You may be Brasilian, but you sure have forgotten to think like one. As for the fantasic, Brasil loving, socially aware mega farmers...You are right, the Brasilian governement funded remarkable research that has led to remarkable increases in agra production. Is it not a shame, that the taxpayers money that created these new tecniques and methods do not benefit from their applications? When will you get it. These "small family farms" are mega businesses, exporting huge amounts of product, tax free. These are not public companies like in the US were shareholders benefit from the profits created, but the same familes that were so "nice and slaveless, and great corporate citizens" who came here 20 years ago. How can you possibly, in good faith deny these facts. A very few rich familes benefit emensley from the inreases in agra exports, and much of these profits don't even stay in Brasil, they end up in foreign bank accounts. Let's be very honest here, these familes own the towns, and sometimes states the are located in, they buy the governement officals they choose, and use the local PM as their own private militas. Read the papers, even the foriegn ones, farms that are STILLl using slavary are being uncovered all the time in Brasil, but isn't it something that even when discovered, there has never been a farmer prosecuted. Your eyes are closed, and have been for a very long time, I have no hope you will ever open them up.

Short Live Bush!

In both America, Brazil, South African and most of the rest of the world. For those whites who state that they never held slaves, never profitted from slavery, I say bulls**t! You are the recipient of white skin advantages that allows you to access capital and goods and services still denied to black people. After the abolition of slavery in all of the Americas, former slaves were deliberately denied salaried employment and the governments instituted programs of genocide against them that are still ongoing today. White immigrants were the only immigrants allowed to immigrate to these respective countries and were hired over black slaves and allowed access to capital and goods denied these slaves who built up the country on their backs. So don't give me that blah blah blah about my ancestors never owned slaves and worked hard to get what they had. Pure grade horses**t!

Your ancestors were welcomed to countries who were only for the advancement of WHITE people. Now that the blacks gathered all of the wealth for white people to enjoy the blacks were no longer needed and with the remaining native peoples were set up to be destroyed in genocidal programs that would make Hitler blush.

White people want control over the entire earth and it's resources. The white race owns 90% of the earth's wealth and if they could get rid of the Muslims (the only remaining threat to white global domination) they will own 100%. White people have NO interest in sharing the earth's resources with black people. When are black people going to wake up and see the obvious. Genocide is still the ultimate goal of the white race for blacks whether they live in the US, Latin America, South Africa or Europe. I don't see why black people can't see this obvious fact, hell the Muslims sure are seeing it. This is why they are fighting their asses off to stop white people from totally taking over this f**king earth and wiping out every other race.

And don't tell me I'm wrong because all of the evidence of the past 600 years speaks for itself.

What about the black conspiracy to corrupt the white youth with their music? That too is a global conspiracy, conquering the enemy from within, keeping parents up all night, damaging such kids for life. Yes, a conspiracy exist and will always exist, take the swiss for example, they preached cultural acceptance so long, that such acceptance became their culture, instead of acceptance, now they are indiferent to cultures. Think of it this way, your race wasn't decimated because it wasn't a worthy enemy, question is, if it were the inverse, would your race have done the same? We all know what will happen with the muslins if they keep pushing, don't we?

A black conspiracy to destroy white youths with their music now that's a laugh? Who controls the music industry? Not black people that's for sure. Eminen, a white rapper, is the top selling hip hop artist in the US speaking to white youth about issues affecting their lives. Hip hop like blues, jazz, soul and gospel were art forms created by poor impoverished blacks speaking of their hard lives in America. Whites would sneak to the black sections of the cities to hang out and listen to black music and would find ways to obtain what was then known as "race" records. No black people forced them to listen to black music or sold it to them. This music was always performed by blacks for a black audience in a segregated society.

The only thing that corrupts white youth and youths of all races is the American emphasis on money, money, money at all costs. Black youths are only attempting the white militaristic thug culture that dominates and permeates American society. The whole damn country is run by rich thugs in the White House and on Wall Street not by poor black youths.

Hip hop is an art form that sar

Hip hop like other musical art forms were born in the ghetto just like the samba of Brazil and spoke of the struggles and trials of all black people worldwide just like reggae music in Jamaica. White people themselves chose to partake of this music and white recording executives have primarily profitted off of the musician's hard work and talent. At no time in the history of America was it FORCED on white people.

I is not forced on them. They could just listen to classical or country music. They relate to the music because it ressonates true and they see their parents behaving the way we said they do and they don't want the stigma associated with fascism. The fascists however are determined to hold on blaming (again, again, again) black people for their failures. The fascist aryans are a desease that believes in pre-emptive behavior while we blacks give people the choice to choose our way or classical european music. We didn't kill off the Indians (North and South American) you fascist aryans did.

Brazilian farmers are basically the worlds best, most competitive agricultural producers. The reasons are simple. They receive no subsidies. They are credible hence they manage to obtain credit plus investiment from brazil and overseas. To have acheived this thay had to specialize both in the crops thay want to grow and to educate themselves about markets.They are independent whixh means they are now even organizing themselves and funding law firms to question and hopefuly eliminate subsidies given to their american and european counterparts. This is the pattern of success. If farmers as one of the posts here states do not pay taxes on exports would it not be the case to reduce taxes for everyone instead of raising taxes for farmers?
The obvious takes time to sink in some peoples heads. If you want people to deposit their money in your banking system then make it a credible banking system . Forget the past, look at what works and has proven to work in economy which are low taxes, no government interference, protection of private property and private assets in banks. This would generate a cycle of prosperity that would benefit the majority from all backgrounds. Do not fall into the falacies of government beaurocrats and leftists intelectuals because the first just want to preserve the current situation were he benefits from other peoples labor ( both rich and poor people) instead of being a productive economic agent and the second often also lives off the state who pays for his books and films so he is also interested in maintaining the current situation. Both will point to past injustices to confuse people into to thinking that they the state are the solution instead of the problem. it is the opposite. Poor people, rich people, brazilian people who want to work and progress should not be held hostage by their ignorance and the ignirance of many os the posts in this thread.

Farmers in Brasil ARE fast becoming the best in the world, their success the last few years has been remarkable, they have found new markets for their products and will trade with anyone willing to buy their products...very much like the Chinese. Farms are efficent, and profitable...do to the low cost of the farm laborer they expolit. While the farms havethe lastest and greatest in equipment and techniques, Brazilian farm workers, and imigrants from surrounding countries are in fact held hostage to 21st Century salvery. Workers are automaticaly put into dept at company stores with no hope of getting out of debt. Farm workers live in squaller, with little or no sanitation, there is no health care, and children are working by the time they are 10. So don't try and paint some bulls**t picture about how great these great "socialy aware" humane farmers, They are ruthless businesses, that some would be shocked to learn still rely on torture and murder. So these mega money machines continue to pump out huge profits for a small group of landowners who own Brazil's farm land, and while they travel by helicopter to Angra, or Porto Seguro for the weekend, there money draws intrest in foreign banks. No one wants to "preserve" the current situation, it sucks, but we can make changes and like all the developed countries that succesful business is not above the law. Like one poster states, these are kingdoms, where the landowners own the town, surrounding towns, and in the case of Goias an entire state.

I'm having hard time believing you thought I was serious about my ironic comment, after all I don't doubt your intelect. The greater point is, you should stop prying on people doubts, trying to keep them up at night while you sleep in an permanent aura of impecable morality. No, Africans didn't kill American indians, well, when did they settle the American continent? We only killed our enemies, we didn't eat them millenia after millenia, surely your DNA is better equipped for the digestion of human fresh. It's all a matter of culture, unless we embrace a single culture, there always will be friction, mere indiference isn't enough. In another words, not only you want to be accepted as equal, but you also want to be embrassed with your differences, and last you want to keep your moral highground. I was thinking about quoting some Marx and Orwell on this phenomenon, well, reflect a little about what you really want.

Lets TRY AGAIN and see if rationality can embrace some of the witers of this thread.

"Farmers in Brasil ARE fast becoming the best in the world, their success the last few years has been remarkable, they have found new markets for their products and will trade with anyone willing to buy their products...very much like the Chinese. Farms are efficent, and profitable...do to the low cost of the farm laborer they expolit. While the farms havethe lastest and greatest in equipment and techniques, Brazilian farm workers, and imigrants from surrounding countries are in fact held hostage to 21st Century salvery. Workers are automaticaly put into dept at company stores with no hope of getting out of debt. Farm workers live in squaller, with little or no sanitation, there is no health care, and children are working by the time they are 10."

This is NOT true. Children in the harvest fields of the cerrado DO NOT WORK, their parents do, the children GO TO SCHOOL.
The farm hands NO LONGER live on the farm. They live in nearby towns and GO TO WORK at the farms. Some have a fixed residence and travel around to harvest different crops around the country returning then to their homes and their families AFTER THE HARVEST.
THERE ARE NO COMPANY STORES. AS i stated before the farm hands DO NOT LIVE ON THE FARMS and they buy their groceries and whatever they need in the stores in their town. Just like you.
WE COULD GO ON ARGUEING ABOUT THIS FOREVER. I , for one, AM NOT GOING TO ARGUE WITH YOU ANYMORE BECAUSE YOU SIMPLY SO NOT FO YOUR HOMEWORK. YOU IGNORE RESEARCH, FACTS, STATISTICS AND COME UP WITH COMPARISONS WITH CHINA BECAUSE THAT SHOCKS PEOPLE AND FEEDS A STREOTYPE ABOUT THE BRAZILIAN COUNTRYSIDE THAT DOES NOT EXIST AND HAS NOT EXISTED FOR A LONG TIME. NOW YOU MAY WANT TO POINT OUT TO A FEW CASES IN THE AMAZON AND THE NOTHEAST WHERE THIS TAKES PLACE BUT THIS A A MINORITY , A TINY MINORITY OF CASES. START DOING RESEARCH ON TOWNS LIKE SÃO LUCAS DO RIO VERDE, MS. SINOP, MS AND SO MANY OTHER COUNTRY TOWNS, FIND OUT ABOUT THEIR PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, FIND OUT ABOUT ATTENDENCE IN THESE SCHOOLS, ABOUT HOW THE FARMS ARE RUN, ABOUT WHERE THE FARM WORKERS LIVE ETC ETC. THIS IS ALL AVAILABLE ON THE INTERNET. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SEEK THE INFORMATION. I AM NOT GOING TO TALK TO SOMEONE WHO SPILLS OUT IDEOLOGICALLY INDUCED LIES JUST BECAUSE HE OR SHE IS INCAPABLE OR UNWILLING, A LAZY ASS IN THE END, AND REFUSES TO DO RESEARCH. I DO NOT WISH TO PARTICIPATE IN A BOTECO CONVERSATION NOR A LEFTISTS STUDENT ORGANIZATION MEETING WHERE EVERYONE JUST SAYS ANYTHING THAT MAY SHOCK, NOBOBY IS HELD ACOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY SAY AND EVERYONE GOES HOME DRUNK. GROW UP

right to the point!

That's i! Enough said!

Dayum...this place has more hateful discourse than the forums! Hummm, I need to come here more often! Keep up the good post peeps (-:

Too often these exchanges have become more about misperceptions, jealousy and a lack of basic knowledge due to little or no understanding of the subject matter or cultures involved, whether it be the black experience in America - past and present, or current conditions in Brazil regarding socio-economic conditions today. George Bush and those like him in America represent a portion of the populace, albeit a large one! All Americans should not be condemned by his and the conservative-right politicians and business elite. It would be as if all of us who know and love Brazil would condemn all Brazilian society for the negative conditions and poverty we find in the favelas and the lack of opportunity for people of color in Brazil. These are the worst generalizations that only foment hate and misunderstanding. We should be looking to unite with those who want to pursue better relations than tearing them down. The class struggle is a world struggle that goes across borders. Too many responses here want too blame entire groups and nations for all the problems that exist. Those who succeed are hated by those who don't. The ultimate class struggle! Get a grip! An example is some of the most recent immigrants to both Brazil and America are the Asians; Japanese, Koreans and Chinese. Why aren't they bitching so much. They take what they are given with a strong family unit and make something of it. Hard work, family, unity, culture. There are no panaceas I agree but blaming everyone for every personal or group failure is not the answer either. Take some responsibility!

This article is interesting and quite accurate. There does seem to be a de-facto segregation in Brazil where most of the people with resources tend to be lighter-skinned/European and most of the poorest people tend to be darker-skinned. The differences in South Africa between whites and blacks are starker, but represent the same race/class divide. I'm not sure of a solution to this problem except by local governments investing in public school education.

I take exception to the comment that Republicans in the U.S. are more honest in their dealing with black Americans than Democrats. Adding two or three black-Americans to the top posts of government cannot be compared to disenfranchising/intimidating black voters (80-90% of whom, vote Democratic), eliminating funding for educational programs aimed at poor youth and preventing the creation of a living wage that would protect Americans below the poverty line, whatever their skin color may be. It is disingenuos to say that appointing Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell (who has now resigned) to top positions in any way makes up for the transgressions.

I appreciate Mr. Buarque's thought provoking articles, and hope he continues writing them.

The very first post by a typical American right-wing fool who couldn't think his way out of a paper bag really got things off to a bad start. The post above "Interesting Article" is finally a civilized one. She also admits not being the world's foremost authority. How refreshing! I do think though that the statement that "There does seem to be a de-facto segregation in Brazil" is an unnecessary understatement. The racial segregation in Brazil is blatant. Anyone with one eye can see that. It stems from the history of slavery and domination of indiginous peoples. Anyone with half a brain can reason that. The solution is more difficult to devine.

The post by the last person seems very on point, his reference to slavery and the domination of Indian people by the Spanish and Portugese, with their guns and backward intentions are exactly what are to be blamed for the problems facing your country in modern times. I think it is about time that Brazilians of Ibean European history stoped taking pride in what was essentailly one of the most pathetic Genocides of human history; one that should be attributed soley to the vile deseases which your people carried. As for slavery in Brazil, I know that it happened to be alot less ridged than what took place in the U.S, and I commend the Brazilians for at least pretending to follow the word of God. Only a very lowly Christian Society could or would buy slaves and then condeme them for having been enslaved. White people everywhere(I don't consider many Brazilians to be white,only wanna be white) seem to have a very thin grasp of human history as a whole. Whites in earlier times were slaves also, but nobody of other races ever condems them for haveing been,nor do they ever bring up the disgusting methods which whites have used to obtain their wealth in modern times. Whites are not a super human race of Gods, but rather, a phiscally inferior race of scundrols,with no honour and no sense of what real pride should means. Many just love to Stand proud,and quicky forget what they are and where they came from. "The present is nothing more then a blip in the space time continume", and you should remember that all of white society is based in some way,shape,or form on the acheivements of Blacks and Browns from earlier generations. White's themselves have suffered in the past,for example: the Plague, Famine(South Americans Natives intrduced europeans to new and more inovative ways of farming before the Europeans turned around and shot the Natives in the back continusly),ivasions,subjicaton,slavery (Slavs of eastern europe were used as a primary source of slave labour in many African and Arab communities, also there was the Viking's slave trad with Arabs and Africans). Dispite what many Whites, and wanna be whites may think about whites,"WHITE IS NOTHING MORE THAN WHITE AND NOTHING MORE".It is a travisty to think that low morals and "deseased wealth lust" have led to what we see today. I am half White myself , and I for one take absolutly no pride in that what so ever. Also, I beleave that whites, insted of trying to pass themselves off as gods gift to the world, should stop and think about what their ancestors have done in the presute of wealth, "it is revolting". Just because your ancesters possessed fire armes, doesn't make you any better than a Black,hispanic or Native; plus, gun powder as well as the majority of other technology used in those times where not even invented by whites, but rather misused by whites. "Being White and wealthy in modern times means nothing more than being desended from a race of diseatful cowards with muskets", that should always be remembered.

About 1/3 of our population living under the poverty line is white (according our own racial standards, of course).

Are there racial inequalities in Brazil? Yes, there are. But there are. But those inequalities are frequently over exagerated, with FALSE studies. In the past, several studies with wrong metodology showes white and black Brazilians with the same scholarship have diferent incomes. IT´S FALSE. A recent study, comparing white and black maids for the same state showed they had very similar incomes and in the Northeast, black maids have BIGGER payments.

Our social diferences are social and not racial. Stop racializing everything.

I"m an African born in the U.S. never been out of the U.S. but would like to. I saw the movie "the city of God", and have been trying to find out just what going on in Rio. its kinda f**ked up when you just can't find out the truth. The powers that be chose what we see and hear. so i make an attempt to sift through the bulls**t. if anybody knows of a good website on Rio or any other city that gets ignored i'd like to know. so post it. and i mean the real news, no media washed up stuff please. I do not know anything of Brazil, only that outside African it has the highest black populations. No suffering of any people is good but i claim the right to defend people of color first my people first.

All of your comments are correct from your own perspective. However 6,000 years of documented human history has shown that man will dominate other men to their injury. This taking will go back and forth, back and forth, until the creator of the universe steps in and stops it. Make no mistake about it there is a ultimate creator who has allowed this shameful spectacle to unfold, and will correct it at his appointed time. I myself often feel the same as you. I am considered a black american, and as such I have often had visions of seeing racist white's of european desent wake up one morning with chains around their necks, connected to an elaborate nationwide assembly line that transports them to a slave ship to be returned to their country of origin; Never to return again. The only problem with this thought is that not all white people are bad or racist. If blacks in the United States could get a clear bead on the true racists who clandestinely use there power making life a living hell for some blacks, they would crush them with no mercy! The thought that blacks in this country are somehow inferior begs the fact that we survived numerous attempts at genocide. I firmly believe that God was on our side and still is. I believe that blacks in America and Brazil were brought here for a reason; To use the resources of the rich countries we inhabit to strenthen the Countries in Africa which were weakened by the policies of the african elites 500 years ago. Whites could not have done this (slavery) without the blessings of black leaders and their minions. So stop griping, start an export/import business, find a partner in some African country, and set up your own business. I hear they have gold. diamonds, coffee, oil, etc over there. You will face competition from the big boys, however carve yourself off a tiny market share, one that they wont miss and you should do just fine.

Peace!

I find it extremly hard to beleave the any Latino could or would hold themselves on a higher plain then a Black man anywhere in the world. All this talk about racial inequality in Brazil seems absolutly laughable from my perspective. I understand that are financial differnces between the skin colours in Brazil, but interms of human character, I wouldn't be surprised if blacks had the latinos beat.

Brazil's racial classifactions leave alot to be desired, I mean, when did a Latino become white? By Brazlian standards, a Canadian Native would then also be cosidered white, or a northern middle Easterner, it almost doesn't make sense. If Brazil is still going by these same sideways classifactions, then I guess that it would also mean that the majority of the worlds poor poeple are also white; I mean, if you count North American Natives, Light skinned Middle Easterners, Latinos, the Portugeses, and anybody else with light skin (in contrast to black skin) to be white then I guess this is the cases, and you are nothing more than silly and misguided people. Coincidently, this is the way race is classified in Africa.. From what I read, in Brazil I would be Calssified as Moreno, in Africa I am a white person, in Canada I am Mulatto or exotic, and in America I would be seen an Afican American (although I am in no way an American); I am also mistaken for a Latino from time to time. My point is that racial classifaction is absolutley absurd, and should not have any place in the minds of modern men, because the whole concept is obviously redicules. People should not be penalized because of their racial background.

the whole idea of race in modern western society is no more than a left over from early European Capitalist tactics, and truly, hold no value in terms of a mans abilty. If anything is to blame for racial in equlity in the western world today, it would have to be Capitalism, and the greed which it breeds(P.S. I am not a Communist). Whites- in general- are only along for a ride, and in many cases they are also driven under by the same culture that favoures so many others like them.

Dispite what some may think, Capitalism is not a European invention, but rather, just another thing which they happend picked up from the rest of the world. Western Europe "fluked big" by stumbling onto North America. This land is the sole cause and root of European Power and Influence in the modern day, because Before the Americas, Europe was just like Africa in Modern times, a content in need of change, and had been that way for a thousand years. Capitalism, quote un qoute "The Machine" is also the reason behind the illmoral and disgusting methods used to tear this land and others away from their innocent and welcoming inhabitants, fore they were not playing the same ball game as western Europeans, and did not care for the same materialistic and superficial life style. Europeans are no than the desease, muskets, and backward intentions which their fore father brought with them from Europe(also the last contenent to come out of the Stone age) ."The Almighty dollar is what they worshiped" and still do till this day; Their concepts of pagan Barbarianism and Native Savagery is complety laughable and hipocrital, because the only thing that Europeans ever used Christianity to do was to convince Natives that thier intentions were good, before the opportuinty arose to shoot them in the back, and make a profit.

The only way that anybody will ever dethrown the the quote un quote "white buiseness elite" is to beat them at their own game, "and beat them hard". This means greater emphesis on computer science and technology,greater political influence(deserved influence, not given influence), greater number minorities scientists and weapons experts, unfication of diffrent minority groups, as well as better understanding of human history, and better education in general. Parents should also stress the importants of these thing to their childern. Minorities do not need anymore atheletes and musician, I mean, in terms of captialism, these can be very profitable professions if you mannage become successful; but a group of people will never make any real progress by singing or running.

As for Brazlians and this whole Aparthied thing, "give it a rest" these quoted "white Brazlians" are usually no more than latino or mongrels at best. I think, Blacks in Brazil need to become more determined in out doing their Latino Neighbours. God knows, Latinos are not a force to be reconed with here in Canada. If one does manage to come across a Brazlian in Canada, chances are that person will be very poor, uneducated(at least by Canadian Standards.A Brazilian education is not legally reconized here), and maybe working in a Wal-Mart. Blacks in Brazil do not have very much to live up to in my oppinion,and so they should get it together and work their way out of poverty, generate wealth, help to improve education in their own communities, and then do what they can to help their countries economic situation, so that all Brazilian(Black,White & Latino) can enjoy prosperity without having sit table side in a world headed by theives.

LOOK I FEEL REALLY SAID ABOUT YOUR FAMILY.

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how does brazil move their info and goods to the rest of the world?

Look at Africa - the prets are simply closer to the chimpanzees than the people that had the sense to get out of that hell-hole. Get used to it - The Africans can dance, fornicate and eat each other while the Chinese and Europeans eat their lunch, an outcome deserved by both sides. Not because the Chinese and Europeans shed their negritude, after all that is about no more than vitamin D - but because they value education and civilization enough to actually improve the human race. This crap about white racism holding down the darky is indefensible in light of the truth - the the same horrors of slavery endured under whites they endured under blacks, and the worse thing that happened to 20th century Africa was decolonialzation. Move 'em to Brazil, Jamaica or South Central Los Angeles, they are they same people they ever were.

If you mean that Brazil, Jamaica or South Central Los Angeles would be better off if the blacks went back to Africa - you are right.

An MD from Brazil is recognized in the US, as are many other degrees. I had to take the same qualifing exams in the US as any US Med School grad, and can assure you that my education at the Federal University in Salvador was an excellent preparation for the American exams.

Alcohol for Tabacco
Gonorrhea for Syphilis

sounds fair

free trade zone of the americas

The good thing that people are talking about the social problems in Brazil, that is progress. However, I am lost to understand why many black Brazilians don't want to be called black. The senator is wrong SA has made great progress in educating black childrens since 1994. Also, in Amy Chua''s book "World on Fire" she talks about the ethnic minorities that controll most of Latin America markets. The Lebaneses controll of most the markets in South America. Look at Carlos Slimm
this man owens half of Mexico. The president of Mexico works for him.

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Anybody that thinks that racism in the USA is the world's worst is so ill informed that he should not even be encouraged to dissphincter his head.

Better left up there . . .
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"But Africa has been so ravished by the European powers that be that it will take centuries to pull up out of the mess."

Bull, Africa was ravished because it was to primitive to resist and too greedy not to participate.

It takes more than a few generations out of Africa to de-chimpify people, so be patient my little pret monkey friends - as surely as your tail is gone your descendants will evolve into humans, or die out.

Hi,
Please let the africa say to the world that What Americans are doing to stop the blacks from Miratating to the US the are making the world to be wrong cause the blacks are making everything up to build America and any where,so Mr Bush ,stop stop cause it you tend you backs from Africa then you will suffer some of the Americans not the Black,We have seen that is time for Africans to unite to be one,so that this mise will stop bush alone.
Thanks
Kanga John
Cameroon

BUSH STOP WHAT YOU THING TO DO CAUSE THE AFRICANS WILL TEND BACK FROM YOU,THIS IS TIME FOR US THE BLACKS TO MAKE THE WORLD KNOW THAT WE ARE IMPORTANT THAN THE WHITE,MY COLUR I`M PRUDE TO BE BLACK AFRICAN,SO GET TO ME IF YOU ARE WHITE LADY INTERESTED TO GET MARRIED TO BLACK YOU ARE WELCOME TO GET IN CONTACT WITH ME.CONTACT ME EMAIL ADDRESS:
tata1980@eml.cc

what?!?!?