Brazzil

If you want a right, you must walk right. There are a lot abuse of the system, special from the woman side. I am sorry to say that the behaviour of brazilian woman is very poor. They lost the self respect, today a woman sleep with one and tomorrow with another. When they work in general they look for favours using the own body.
I do not live in Brazil anymore. However, 12 years ago, I engaged a long conversation with a female cop in a bus station in Brazil. I started to commenting about all those laws that protect a woman against abuse in Brazil. The lady heared and after one time she start to speak. Do you know that many wives Friday evening when the husband arrive from work start to tease the partner, around 10 pm the man is very annoyed than he beats her.She calls the police station, we go there and we do the arrest. The man goes to spend the weekend in jaile. Monday, the husband is release because he needs to work. However, the wife can dance in night clubs Friday night, Saturday and Sunday. And for my surprise, she continues. Look the female police in this state was a fiasco program since many cops were cops during the day and prostitute during the night. Last years was the last time that the state hired female cops. This program is an end here.
I left from that place astounished! Since I was born and educated in Brazil, it was not a big surprise to hear that but I was astonished since first time I hear such thing from a white woman, speaking a fluent portuguese and also a cop.
Since that, I lived in North America. After some contact with Brazilian community, I decided to move on because when ilegal Brazilian woman knows that you are single and have the legal documents, they start to do anything to sleep with you. This way they think that can get an easy ride to become legal in America.
My friend if you feel pity from the brazilian woman situation, marry one and bring to your home. Please, if she is gorgeous leave your address here, I want to be your best neighbour.

I have have news for you. NO one deserves to be beaten for any reason. I'm sure this woman already had parents that did that for her when she was little and misbehaved. I'm sure she didn't need to have husband to do that also.
If you, as a country don't value your women, then who will? Certainly they will not value themselevs and neither will the turistas that brazilians are always complaining about.
Women all over the world have issues but it seems that in Brasil they are taught to use sex from childhood so why are you astounded when they use it when they grow up?
You sir, need to grow up and look at things from both sides.

Women all over the world have issues. Western women were taught to use sex from childhood. So, let's to do like the smarts guys do. Go to Asian and pick up a submissive woman, special if she bares speak English. They are excellent house wives and you can go to work happy everyday.

Firstly, I am a man.
This is a very complicated issue, one for which I have no solution. Does ANY ONE have a solution? All I wanted to comment on is the statement, "NO one deserves to be beaten for any reason."
I disagree. As a wise man once said,"No one is above an ass whuppin!"
Don't tell me that there has never been a woman anywhere at any time that didn't use victimization to her own advantage. If I am in an argument with someone bigger than me, there is a line that I don't cross. Why should women be exempt? If you do feel a need to go into territory that you know will be explosive, you must take responsiblity for the consequences. Otherwise, don't go there. Leave.
I know that it is not possible for some women to just "leave," but how much responsibility do I need to take for your unfortunate life decisions? If your man beats you, leave. If your situation is such that you can't leave, what do you want me to do about it. What do you expect society to do about it? I don't know. Do you?

All these laws that Zimmerman talks about must have been an April Fool's joke. Then again, most socialist legislative solutions to problems are a joke.

There's nothing complicated about it. There are laws that protect wormen. They need to be enforced so that people like the guy above who thinks that violence is acceptable go to jail.

Divorce is not a such a great idea after all. Single parents were bankrupting their own economic life by separating households. Compare children of divorced families to the children of troubled families where the parents stayed together. A highly respected 25 year study by noted psychologist Judith Wallerestein showed that kids of divorced parents had a much bigger chance of getting divorced themselves. They also had a much higher chance of being in illegal drugs, alcohol, pre marital sex, lower self estemm, ascial behaviour, homosexualism, poorer marks in school, more violent tendencies and lesser respect for others, especially their parents.
The matrimonial lawyer industry had been needlessly created, not go mention a massive tabloid publishing and social service trade just because of an introduction of a divorce law that did not exist until some decades ago.
So, divorce or leave a relationship is the worst option for a couple. It is time to people learn that is not only marriage-divorce-marriage-divorce. They need to learn to change attitude in the life and be more serious in relationships. Leave a relationship or even divorce is only creating a new industry of public women. It is very hard to find a partner when you are single and it is almost impossible when you are divorce, special if you have children and a lot bills to pay in the end of the month.

This is the first time I've heard of laws called "socialist legislative solutions to problems." So laws against murder, assault, rape, child abuse, prostitution, larceny, robbery, piracy, etc. are "socialist legislative solutions to problems"? Man are you a nutjob. Ever try a tinfoil hat to make the socialists go away? Fool.

Wait a minute. There are violence against the women and there is violence against the women. There are a lot women that have orgasm only when the man beat her. If you are experiented man, you know that umas boas bofetas na cara, make a lot woman fall in love for a man. If such thing was totally wrong the pimp will not have so much sucess.

Man you are full of machismo, guys like you are the problem in Brazil, Brazilian women just follow suit..I'm a Brazilian living in the US, and I can tell by your writing that you just wrote about some personal life...or you are just dumb like most Brazilians living in the US, beliving in any s**t someone says!
just look around the ex-brazxilians, not all them, but a good porcentage beats theyr wife..why? you can go out for fun, but she can't? and if she goes out, you says the husband has rights to beat her up? get out of here...another thing, the author didn't mention in Brazil the rape of young women is huge...but if you are a young girl, and got rape, you would be very afraid to inform anybody...why? if the f**ker like you things to teach a women needs beating..poor girl, she learn very early that Brazil men are s**t!

If you're talking about sadomasochism, then I'd have to say that such people need psychological treatment. If you would hit a woman to "make her fall in love with you," then you're one hard-up cretin. Fill the jails with "experienced men" who hit women!

Oh, I forgot to mention, if you are a Brazilian you will see how much Brazilians use some kind of manipulation ( a head game) into the relationship..the men uses more than women...but some women are real good, especial in your case right..living in the US, without a "file A' Brazilian woman..guys like you when sees a Brazilian women...think it should be like in Brazil, they are all bitchs! easy to f**k! They all want my green card, so I f**k them all...talking about victims heim! grow up jerk!

That would be neighbors and relatives that protect their women! It's called a society that functions on the average person displaying good citizenship, which is a foreign idea for most Brazilians. Women often get paid less because they interrupt their careers and have time gaps in their resumes.

You don't need group rights. A simple law against battery in general is suffiecient. Battery is and should be a crime irrespective who is involved. There should be no special laws for special groups (women, races, gays, etc.) That is class warfare.

I live in first world with a lot education. My wife is accounting. I really do not work. I am a husband. My wife works. Her salary is very low compared with american woman because she is an immigrant like me. However, she has 2 jobs. Professional jobs but low pay jobs. She works in big companies and she always talk that in her environment only women work. Do you know why only women? because they work for less, today women are head of family. Before she was ashamed that I did not have job or I was doing some odds jobs. Now, she shares her problems with the co workers and she learned that even people born in America have the same problems that we have.
Since I stay at home, I need to cook, clean, do laundry and take care of the kids. When I woman says hi to me, I have a hard time to explain to my wife that she lives close to our home.

What you are doing is a WORLD better than dumping your kids in day care!

Man also suffer abuse. Police knows how many men are being attacked every day at home and they need to stay quite.

Spousal abuse and child abuse prosecutions are gender neutral in the USA. If a wife hits her husband in the USA and inflicts visible injury, the wife is usually hauled off to jail. I know of a women that spent a whole weekend in jail because her husband called 911 instead of hitting her back.

Why this does not happen in Brazil? Why men in Brazil needs to stay quite?
The boy friend of my ex-wife pointed me a gun. I went to police in Brazil and they did not want register any offense. My wife went there after some hours and said that I called her vagabunda and I went to court with lawyer and everything.
Then I left Brazil.

I had no idea how abused men are in Brazil. Mr. Zimmerman's story really missed the bigger story in Brazil, didn't it? Everything is just stacked against the gentle, egalitarian Brazilan man. No wonder they have to slap the bitches around every now and then…It's just self defense. But, unforturnately, they can't get away with it because The Woman comes after them. It's clearly a Marxist conspiracy to emasculate Brazilian men. Thank you for your enlightneing comments. NOT…É o dia de mentiras, né?

It is certainly possible. Think about it... if protection is thin when something is in the law/constitution in Brail, help must be nonexistant on an issue with minimal protection under the law. Does anyone here know what happens to a wife in Brazil if she beans her husband on the noggin with an iron while he is asleep?

I have many former classmates murdered by the wife. Death does not talk.
Brazilian law is only in the paper. Brazil is a very corrupt Country. Who cares in Brazil if the wife beat, cheat or kill you. You are on your own.
Anybody here has an idea of the number of single mothers in Brazil? Nobody talks that in Brazil more than 70% of families the woman is the head of the family. In general people that come in this forum are high middle class. They know life only in the paper.

Firstly, I am a man.
This is a very complicated issue, one for which I have no solution. Does ANY ONE have a solution? All I wanted to comment on is the statement, "NO one deserves to be beaten for any reason."
I disagree. As a wise man once said,"No one is above an ass whuppin!"
Don't tell me that there has never been a woman anywhere at any time that didn't use victimization to her own advantage. If I am in an argument with someone bigger than me, there is a line that I don't cross. Why should women be exempt? If you do feel a need to go into territory that you know will be explosive, you must take responsiblity for the consequences. Otherwise, don't go there. Leave.
I know that it is not possible for some women to just "leave," but how much responsibility do I need to take for your unfortunate life decisions? If your man beats you, leave. If your situation is such that you can't leave, what do you want me to do about it. What do you expect society to do about it? I don't know. Do you?

First of all, if you go around starting arguments with strangers and get your ass whooped that is not the same as a married couple where the man (or the woman) thinks that he has a right to beat his wife anytime she "gets out of line."
Is that your idea of marriage? I thought it was "to love, honor and cherish." I think that the one that should leave in your example situation is the man. Obviously he has very bad taste in women (a reflection on his own character) so if she is such a bitch shouldn't he leave her instead of beating her and risking the so called outrageous laws protecting women in brasil? Personally, I think that if he is a wife beater/cornudo and she is such a whore they are a perfect match and should stay togther and make more little wife beating whores!

There is nothing manly about beating women.

Why not? Girls always love bad guys.

Women have it no better in AMerica or any other parts of the world. It is white male dominated system women have to use whatever they can to get ahead.Brains and intelligence in a woman are not respected. The only way most women can climb the economic ladder is on her back with her legs in the air.

I speak from experience. I am an intelligent educated American professional woman and in most firms I have worked in, it is the woman who walks around half nude and gives out sexual favors who climb the corporate ladder. Most male employers will look at a female applicant's boobs and behind before thefey look at her resume.

As long as the male dominated world rewards a woman who uses her body instead of her brains you will have well endowed women out there using their assets to get ahead.

I agree 100% with you. I am a man, mature age, properly prepared to this world and I know that all men do that.
Companies hire gorgeaus women. Give good salary, ask to them buy expensive car, house. When they are almost in debt, come a good conversation.
Look, the company is not doing well, do you know wanna mean. Maybe, we need to lay off some people. Unfortunately your name is in the list. We are going to see what happens during this month. Remember that our conversation is confidential.
The gorgeous lady became desesperate, she will lose house, car and so many things because she has a good morgage and it is almost impossible to get another job by the way. Therefore, there is no solution that to seduce the boss.

If such a scenario -- or anything like that -- happens in the US, pleeeeese call me and we'll sue the guy and the company into oblivion.

It needs to have proof. It is almost impossible. They are very smart. Do not worry, they never let you even understand what is going on.

I am a Brazilian male and I now live and work in Europe (Germany). I went to university in the States and Europe. I've spent several years doing business in America and obviously Europe. I hove come across many women who are treated with respect for their minds and not their bodies. Women are on all level of the corporate ladder in the U.S. including CEO. Some of these women are fat and unattractive, as others are beautiful. Some are black and some are white and of other races. There are inherent disadvantages to the perception of women that can keep a women from advancement but in most cases that is only if they let it happen. The laws in the U.S. are striclty enforced which gives women the ability to fight against any abuse in the work place. But don't get me wrong even with such laws in place there are those women who use there sexuality as an advantage. Womens rights activist are normally against this but there is a small minority of women right activist who see this as an inherent advantage of a woman. But back to the point do you think Madeline Albright or Condelezza Rice achieved there positions because of their sexuality? I doubt it. America is miles ahead of anywhere that I have seen with so many cultures living together. Albanians and Serbs live in the same neighborhoods and eat in the same restaurants in the U.S. when they would kill each other in their native land. Same for Turks and Greeks, blacks and whites. My God believe me we all know the U.S. isn't perfect but it is a good place when it comes to equality, and it is still a work in progress. They have just worked on it seriously longer than anyone else.. I tend to ask Blacks in the U.S. is America an equal place yet. The answer almost always given is that "We have come a very long way, but we still have a ways to go"

Girls kick ass, They are a hando full, high maintenance but they deserve it all, because many people forget who brought them in this world was a female... Love you girls!

fat and unattractive women on jobs but they do not make as much money as the attractive ones. Also a pretty woman does not need to spend a lot of time in school because she can always marry well or work in a profession like modeling and make far more money than a highly educated female professional. So you will find average looking highly educated women on jobs because the beauties don't have to work and can just lay on the beach all day or work as a model or even a sex worker and make more than a lady executive.

America is definitely a work in progress. No real equality its just that America has less black people than Brazil so they don't have to work as hard on equal rights cause the blacks are few in number. Black people in America still live poor and have no good jobs just like in Brazil.

Europe is better place to work than America. More job security, better day care and health care. Not like in America where employers don't give a damn about an employee's family or job security. Will sell out to the highest bidder and leave the employee flat on their ass. Don't want to pay for health care or time off to have a child. Want the employee to do nothing but work, work, work and give lousy vacation time off. America not too much better off than Brazil in terms of equal rights.

I saw many American beauty get job easy. Sure, they make fast more money than a fat woman. However, they do not go far in the profession. Soon or later, they will lose the job. Since, I am a man. I never f**k a woman that was being f**king by another boss. She is pretty but her stocks go down fast.

confirmation that men are pigs…read the posts above.

There are many blacks in America we really good jobs. Don't believe everything you see on T.V. There are black neighborhoods in all the major cities that have upscale beautiful homes (Atlanta, LA, Chicago, Cleveland, Youngstown, Charlotte, ....etc) Yes, there are too many black below the poverty level. But there are millions that have refused to be shakled and have progressed. From a proud Black American who loves your Country too. Brazilians have much to be proud of.

I never f**k a woman that another boss f**ked also. I do not want rest of somebody. I have something special or I prefer to hire a fat woman at least I am know, she has the qualification to do the job.

Sedat Erdem, An der Kreuzeiche 7/ Nr.28, 72762 Reutlingen



Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,

first of all, this a very serious situation: All the german speechs about against racialism, you watch on TV, listen to the Radio or in the newspapers, are lies and "shows" because most of them are in fact jelousy and hidden racial people. Their aim is K.O. of poor people. They seem to be friendly but it is a danger for our world. This is the very wicked reality in Germany.



The circumstance is very clear: Their racial tactic is to terminate the foreign people in Germany and smile with helpes in other countries. They are very scared of UN´s measures.

They want to stop me on every way I choose. This disgusting circle consists of corrupt people.



I need your help: I have no money and no job, although I am looking for it all the time. My living conditions got worse, because I can´t pay the rent of the room I am living.



02.12.03: I sent my complaint (with reference to: discrimination about the results of the exams to the Office of the HIGH COMMISSIONER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS UNITED NATIONS Office at Geneve. The situation is worse and the number of racial person is increasing.



I have shown in all cases that I will defend myself, even I don´t get a lawyer, at which the germans tried to disturbe me at every act which is important for my future: That is against the sence of the human rights and human value judgement. These considerable principles are rejected by racial germans.





Here are the alarming details of the discrimination against me in Germany:



I. at the University Tübingen (Juristische Fakultät)/Baden-Württemberg

II. at the industrial courts [Arbeitsgericht Stuttgart (Aktz:24 Ca 7854/04), Landesarbeitsgericht Stuttgart (Aktz: Aktz: 8 Sa 20/05)

III. at the social welfare office, revenue office in Reutlingen

V. at the administrative court in Sigmaringen (Verwaltungsgericht: Aktz. 8K 224/05; Aktz:: 8K 223/05) my claims against the University Tübingen; and against the social welfare office Reutlingen (VG Sigmaringen; Aktz: 6 K 2459/04; Aktz: 6K 43/05)



The question is what they intend by doing such disgusting methods. The germans have invited (in 1960) the Turkish workers to Germany and now they try to stop the children of Turks by aiming for higher position. It could be simply prognosized that their children would have achieved more than themselves. I got the german nationality in 1997. In my opinion most of the germans don´t want to integrate themselves in multicultural society. That is a big problem.



Their aim is to destroy my live, want to block every living and study standards, therefore I must fight against the incredible handling of racial people in Germany. The seriousness of this case should not be underestimated.



You can recognize very easily, that their racial acts are intentional. I suppose that these institutions (fakulty, offices, courts and so on.) are contacting together to plan about the damages I got and should get. It is a devilish circle, which tries to destabilize my life.



In fact the racial germans have chosen a intellectual man like me, but they did not calculate my counter measure to terminate the racial attacks. The issue is that their unsocial handling shows only a blamable picture. These person are not able to weigh a current serious situation. The infringement of law is submitted and this must have a consistency.



The following aspects come into question: On the occasion of the jelousy handling, the circumstance is going to be horror scene, because I present better solutions than the racial germans. They ignore still the constitutional laws and this is not fair in a constitutional state. Further more they set up new discriminating tactics in the important institutions, what is a shame for the history of EU by reason of still continuance of racial german methods.



I. My profile: 36y., Dipl.-Ing. (FH) mechanical engineering/construction, Technical Economist and since oct. 2000 study of jurisprudence (to become a lawyer ), in which the obtainment of permission_procedure for writing the exams is required.



Because of my qualifications it sounds that I have a convenient life. This is not as I told you. During my every profession_career I was disturbed extremely by this racial sect. The question is, whether I will be able to study anymore, because all the financial ways are blocked by this racial circle.

Last year I sent my complaint to the United Nations Office at Geneva/ Switzerland (02.12.03) about the incredible discrimination at the University Tuebingen, but the situation did not change. They ignore all the time my examinations (civil-law, criminal-law, public-law; Hausarbeiten und Klausuren in Fortgeschrittenen Übungen), which are necassary to write the Endexam "1. Staatsexamen". Now it sure that is racialism.



The cases of disgusting corrections have repeated and that is not allowed with reference to human rights. Indeed I gave them too much time to be a fair corrector, but they are extremely racial and that is not normal. The central point is that the corrector want me stopped by my success.



What the professors are driving at? In their imagination: I should repeat the exams all the time, although I present good solutions. Then I should protest them, claim at the courts and so on until the correctors are convinced. Besides, the students descending from Germany get higher results without any kind of effort. The correctors don´t care about the equal rights, whereby you can easily see the racial thinking of this circle.





II. Also, there are some people who try to destroy the life of a student with "financial eliminate methods": In the courts (Arbeitsgericht Stuttgart; Aktz: 24 Ca 7854/04) I was attacked with procedure discrimination of some judges, although they know that my right position as student is very significant and I haven't got any income in this critical situation. Now the next instance (Landesarbeitsgericht Aktz: 8 Sa 20/05) reject my rights:



What you can find out is, that this kind of decisions damage the confidence among the multicultural living people. How far a breach of law is given, is not complicated to find out this: My employer has given me the notice, but it is social unjustified, because it is not basing on a reason. It is very clear to see that, at which I was attacked by a person and I defended myself. The decisions are disasters. Also, my employer must accept the afternoon shift work, because it belongs to change-shift-working, which is explicit mentioned in the contract (since 02.2002). I will go through every instance until I get my right. If you want to solve this problem in a court, so they rather try to stretch the claim with "judicial sleep tactics".What the judges are driving at? Starving a student?



III. In some offices (at the social welfare office, revenue office in Reutlingen) they ignored constitutionel laws at all (Art. 2 IPbR, Art. 6 EMRK, Art. 14 EMRK, Art. 1 GG, Art. 20 GG, Art. 12 I GG, Art. 3 I, III GG) and insofar is not fair to stop the children of the "invited workers" on their education. Accordingly I ask the question: What about the social justice and constitutional state principle?

Although they know that the rejection of aid means undue hardship, they infringe the constitutional (basic) laws on purpose: human´s dignity (Art. 1 GG), freedom of profession (Art. 12 I GG); the social state principle and the constitutional state principle (Art. 20 I, III GG);



IV. Against the decisions of administrative court (Verwaltungsgericht Sigmaringen), which are perversions of justice, I sent my complaints to the next instance (Verwaltungsgerichtshof Mannheim).

At the University Tübingen it is not a surprise that I present good solutions in exams (Hausarbeiten, Klausur), because I am a qualified student. But the problem is, as I said, the racial thinking of the correctors in this juristical fakulty. Also, it is for me economically very inconvenient to pay a lot of money per semester. Accordingly, it should be taken into consideration that I have to pay more than 600€/semester (study pay tax), especially since a fair correction-effort is wanted. Nevertheless the correctors had a lot time to change their mind related to fair correction.

My solutions of exams (Hausarbeiten, Klausur) with legal arguments are given and just therefore it is forbidden to give less points than students descending from Germany. The german jurisdiction (decisions) and the literature are remarked as footnotes. Thus they are good dogmatic solution [Hausarbeit; Klausur ). On principle the student have got an answer scope but this is ignored extensive by the professors. Therefore the decision is definitively wrong of the court (VG Sigmaringen).

The decision of the same court about the social financial aiding should have been spoken less for transitory social help. But the court (VG Sigmaringen Aktz: 6 K 2459/04; Aktz: 6K 43/05) reject this, although it knows that I am in a essential financial situation



What the judges are driving at? Starving a student?



GOD bless everyone, who defends the human rights.



If you can, help me please.



Best regards

Erdem, Sedat

An der Kreuzeiche 7,

72762 Reutlingen/Germany

being black in the US is a bitch. we all get treated like we have the brain of a monkey. If you don't like how you are treated and stand up for yourself it willl cause YOU more harm than good. and how many people will make that sacrafice? also, most people get tired of fighting the white man's system

Those of you who rationalize this mistreatment or mistreatment of any kind, must be just stupid enough to forget that they have a mother. Let's beat her senseless as well. I have a Brazilian girl, and a ton of other South American and latin American lady friends. They appreciate everything in life while many things in life don't appreciate them. Get to know one of these girls, not just the outside, and you will see a beautiful woman that is afraid to blossom. She will not hassle you about material things, issues of little relevance, or your family ties. She will just try to make things work. No to me, if you have to hurt a lady, especially these ladies, "You are a weak little bitch!"

this is no good

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What well all seem to not be doing is telling the truth -- at least not the complete truth. Much of what is being discussed on this forum is based upon very negative experiences. Negative experiences tend to dominate people who live in a nation where survival is a constant personal battle. Oh we hate to address economic issues within the context of a social discussion, but they have some bearing. Specificlly, if economics conditions are poor for a large percentage of the population within a said nation, people -- especially men -- tend to demonstrate destructive behavior. This is often manifested in spousal abuse, child neglect, and sexual assault. And likely due to slavery/colonalization, people of color have demonstrated signifigantly higher rates of these actions. Now, if you add to this equation, the spouse lashing back out at the perpetrator at a later date, in an unprovoked manner as well as the knowledge that others you know experiencing the same problems, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Accepted.

No one is talking about introducing anger management into THE CULTURE [not just having one individual go to counciling which would be outrageously unaffordable for most brazilians & even many americans]. No one is talking about self support groups for the men and women. No one is talking addressing economic plite of these people, such that the men fill more like men as a result of being able to provide for the families in a way that meets their own standards, so that this behavior will be less prominent in their own minds. There is more I could say but I will stop here.

But until you [if you're a woman] can calmly & candidly speak about the abuse that happened to you, you probably shouldn't comment on this subject, because your speech will still be filled with rage bubbling just beneathe the surface.
And until you [if you're a man] can calmly & candidly speak about the abuse that happened to you, you probably shouldn't comment on this subject, because your speech will be tainted with the bad blood of a prior mate who used you, and then used the system to manipulate you, so that she could move on to the next mark.

For to address this problem in a pretty meaningful way, it means taking a long hard look at entire basis for family within that culture. And that, requires telling the ugly truth.