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Brazilian Indians: Above Any Suspicion or Law PDF Print E-mail
2005 - April 2005
Written by Augusto Zimmermann   
Tuesday, 05 April 2005 19:38

Chief Raoni and French President Jacques ChiracThe Constitution of Brazil is extremely generous in all it says about indigenous rights. They include, for instance, not only the protection of indigenous culture but also the right of Indians to determine the use of their lands.

According to the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights, "The Chapter [on indigenous rights] of the Brazilian Constitution is devoted to one of the most advanced normative positions in comparative legislation.

"Its provisions relate directly to the Indians' rights, surpassing the doctrine of 'natural assimilation', and grant permanent recognition to the inherent original rights of the indigenous people, predicated on their status as the initial historical and permanent occupants of their lands".(1)

Indigenous lands are characterized by the Brazilian Constitution as those traditionally occupied by indigenous people on a permanent basis, as well as "those used for their productive activities, those indispensable to the preservation of the environmental resources necessary for their well-being and for their physical and cultural reproduction, according to their uses, customs and traditions".

Thus an eminent constitutional lawyer, Manoel G. Ferreira Filho, argues that such description of 'lands traditionally occupied by Indians' is so broad that it would be easier to explain which lands the non-Indians can occupy.

The 400 thousand Indians who live in Brazil have the legal right to occupy 946 thousand square kilometres. In other words, less than 5% of the Brazilian population holds impressive 12% of the national territory, a fact that makes of the indigenous community the biggest landowner in this country.

This also means that the quantity of lands classified as indigenous reserve is much bigger than the territory of any European country, except for the Russian Federation. In France, for instance, about 59 million people share a territory which is less than 544 thousand square kilometres.

Indigenous lands are the permanent possession of the indigenous people, who have the exclusive usufruct over the riches of the soil, the rivers, and the lakes existing therein.

In addition, the Supreme Court (STF) has decided that any statute or contract that can result in the reduction or alienation of indigenous lands is unconstitutional.

Only the elected members of National Congress can authorize the exploitation of hydric resources and/or mineral riches in the indigenous lands. If so, a share of the profit has to be ensured for the Indians.

They can not be removed from their lands except by the approval of congressmen in cases of catastrophe and/or epidemic. Even so, they have the right to return to their lands as soon as the risk ceases, for the land rights of Indians are considered inalienable and not subject to limitation.

Brazil has established a special federal agency only to uphold the cultural values and background of the indigenous community. The National Indian Foundation (Funai) is a federal agency charged with promoting the rights of Indians, including the basic right of every indigenous person to education, heath care, and legal assistance.

Regardless of all these rights (and lands), half of the Brazilian Indians rely on a federal program of basic food baskets to survive. Indians are facing problems of poverty, diseases, and poor health care.

For example, the medical department of Funai estimates that 60% of the indigenous population suffer from chronic diseases such as tuberculosis, malaria, or hepatitis.

And Funai also acknowledges that non-indigenous people have illegally exploited the indigenous reserves for mining, logging, and agriculture.

A notorious example of disregard for basic rights of the Indians occurred in 1997, when a federal judge dismissed manslaughter charges against four youngsters who doused an indigenous person with gasoline and set fire on him.

They argued as legal defence that they did not want to hurt an Indian, as they thought the victim was 'just' a beggar. It is important to consider in this case that one of the defendants was the son of another federal judge.

On May 9, 2004, the Amnesty International (AI) released a document suggesting that the situation of the Indians has 'deteriorated' since President Lula took office in 2003. The AI informed for instance that 27 Indians were murdered in 2003, three times more than in 2002.

The Indigenous Missionary Council (Cimi), one of the NGOs responsible for the data produced by AI, suggests however that the correct number could be 31 deaths. Its vice-president, Saulo Feitosa, argues that the Cimi backed the AI report only because some Indians were still missing, and, therefore, could not be classified as dead.
 
Indians' Wrongs

The Brazilian law espouses a paternal approach towards the indigenous person, particularly in relation to criminal law. The Statute of the Indian, in its Article 56, declares that sentences shall be attenuated in cases of conviction of an Indian.

In 1980, Chief Raoni of the Txucarramãe Indians ordered the massacre of 30 peasants at the Xingu National Reserve. Raoni was not even charged for the killings which he proudly confessed to have ordered.

In 1988, Sting, a British rock-singer, served as Raoni's patron during his 'official visit' as indigenous leader to European countries. On that occasion, Pope John Paul II, France's President François Mitterrand, and Spain's King Juan Carlos, received Raoni with all the honours of state leader.

In 1989, Sting raised US$ 1,5 million for the Caiapó Indians. He probably did not know that Chief Paiakan of Caiapó Indians had already become a millionaire by illegally exporting mahogany to Europe.

In 1993, after federal police arrested many loggers operating illegally in the Caiapó reserve, Chief Paiakan and other Indians, "who had made a deal with the lumber dealers, protested vehemently against the actions of the police as an improper intrusion in their business".(2)

In May 1992, Chief Paiakan brutally raped and tortured an 18-year-old student called Sílvia Ferreira. He confessed the crime but warned that a 'white blood roll' would be carried out if police tried to execute the order for his arrest.

Although Paiakan was judicially sentenced to six-year jail, the order was never executed because police officers were too afraid to arrest him. Then, a few months later, a visibly scared judge absolved Chief Paiakan during a trial in which the indigenous leader appeared at the courthouse backed by hundreds of Indians armed with clubs.

More recently, approximately 350 Guarani Indians decided in February 2004 to invade productive farms in the state of Mato Grosso do Sul. They stole cattle and burned all the buildings.

Not satisfied with the size of their lands, they claimed that attacked farms also belonged to them, because those lands had been 'stolen' from their ancestors four centuries ago.

In March 2004, the chief of the Cintas-Larga Indians ordered the assassination of 29 prospectors in northern Brazil. It seems that prospectors had not given him the amount of money requested for the illegal mining in his reserve.

Chief Pio declared that those killings were 'just a warning' for those who dared to mine in his land without consent. As anyone who really knows this country would expect, no charges were raised against him.

Actually, Funai's President Mécio Gomes considered the massacre of prospectors a 'normal thing' because those Indians would have, in his opinion, the right to kill people who invade their property.

Although the Lula da Silva administration enacted in 2004 a statute which prohibits law-abiding citizens to possess firearm, the press has displayed photos of Cinta-Larga Indians proudly carrying their potent rifles.

While they seem to have a 'special license' from the Workers' Party (PT) government to disrespect the legislation, gun-control has been rigorously enforced on ranchers who dare to protect their property against the violent invasions of a radical movement called MST (Landless Movement).

One needs to remind in this case that the congressman who drafted and proposed the gun-control legislation, PT Deputy Luiz Eduardo Greenhalg, is also a lawyer for the MST.

On May 28, 2004, the President of the Prospectors Union in Rondônia, in northern Brazil, appeared before the Chamber of Deputies to report the missing of 350 colleagues in the Cintas-Larga reserve.

A court judge, Leonel Pereira da Rocha, was also invited and let the federal deputies fully informed that Cintas-Larga Indians were heavily armed and had already assassinated at least 65 people between January 2001 and May 2004.

According to him, there was even a clandestine cemetery in that indigenous reserve, where not less than 100 corpses are buried. Finally, the judge revealed that local courts are facing problems to execute warrants and interrogate criminal suspects, because, as he put it, "the National Indian Foundation (Funai) has gotten in the way of investigations".(3)

References:

(1) Organization of American States; Report on the Situation of Human Rights in Brazil. Organization of American States, 1997. http://www.cidh.oas.org/countryrep/brazil-eng/index%20-%20brazil.htm
(2) Valenta, Lisa; Disconnect: The 1988 Brazilian Constitution, Customary International Law, and Indigenous Land Rights in Northern Brazil. 38 Texas International Law 643, 2003, p.657.
(3) Vasconcelos, Luciana; Brazil and Amnesty Clash. Brazzil, Human Rights, May 2004.
http://www.brazzil.com/content/view/1827/59/

Augusto Zimmermann is a Brazilian Law Professor and PhD candidate for Monash University - Faculty of Law, in Australia. The topic of his research is the (un)rule of law and legal culture in Brazil. He holds a LL.B and a LL.M (Hons.) from the Pontifical Catholic University of Rio de Janeiro, and is the author of two well-known law books ("Teoria Geral do Federalismo Democrático" and "Curso de Direito Constitucional"). His e-mail is: augustozimmermann@hotmail.com



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What are you suggesting?
written by Guest, April 06, 2005
More than 95% of the Brazilian population holds an impressive 88% of the national territory. 100% of that territory was stolen from the indigenous people (so-called "Indians"). Yes, STOLEN.

The some people like to stomp up and down about property rights, except when it comes to the property rights of the indigenous people who occupied the land before Europeans came and took the land, treating it as up for grabs and treating the people already there like part of the wildlife. And people continue to try to steal their land.

So, Zimmerman provides a list of "wrongs" on both sides (weighted against the "Indians") and offers nothing constructive. Everyone knows that these are problems…I've been reading the Zimmerman bits for a while now, and I don't get the point. What are you suggesting, Augusto?
the truth
written by Guest, April 07, 2005
the indigenou people on brazil have the rigth to live in their lands like their ancestor.they cant sold anything from theyr terrytori it is a natural preservation reserve,is proibited for them make a one country inside brazil,and sale gasoline without taxes,building cassinos,because brazil is indivisible and indigenous not have cassinos on their culture.yes we have the most advanced laws for ingigenous people ,but all of them are brazilians,they speak portuguese,and on the region they lives the young go to army we have a lot of them on the amazon army,but despite the internacional interests on the indigenous resources,they will never be independent,because inside this country all of we are brothers and they now this.the episode of the judge is normal ,tell me my friend wath you do when you see hundreds indians with tacapes,and blades and your boss on you front for absolve or conden?it is survival .
...
written by Guest, April 07, 2005
you forgot amsterdam style coffee shops
So much bulls**t here
written by Guest, April 07, 2005
Indians in North America have a lot power. The stupid white man destroyed all good land, now the best land is the land of the human being in North America. In North America the natives do not pay tax and they have cassines, they have farms, some natives are very wealth and nobody says anything. They have free health care, free pos secondary education. Today, there are 5 times more natives in North America than 500 years ago. And nobody says a word against all the privilegies that they conquered.
Why the Brazilian natives, which were dizimated by gonorrea do not have more rights?
In Brazil native culture does not cost a cent. Brazilians will be always a third world country with stupid thoughts and the stupid white men from Brazil will keep travelling abroad always look for a job oversee and then realized that they are below the black men from others Countries.
US versus Brazilian Indians
written by Guest, April 07, 2005
Most or all US Indians get a reparations check every month. What do many do with it? THEY DRINK IT. If you don't believe me, go driving around Arizona and New Mexico near the Indian reservations and you will always see drunken Indians milling around the highways.
More about us
written by Guest, April 07, 2005
Hi moda fokers...idiots americans
moonshine
written by Guest, April 07, 2005
At least they receive money from the government. Brazilians native do not receive anything.
What a totalitarian mind is suggesting?
written by Guest, April 08, 2005

A basic problem of all totalitarian mind is its absolute incapacity to separate the individual from the community where he/she lives.

If indians were 'stolen' by colonizers about five centuries ago, what the population who lives today in Brazil has to do with this?

Those who think otherwise can, for instance, equally justify the punishment of Germans who have relatives who were Nazis during the World War II.


...
written by Guest, April 08, 2005
By the way, the message posted above is adressed to the person who wrote in the first post
IT IS TIME!
written by Guest, April 08, 2005

It's time all race-based and paternalistic systems ended, with equality under the law in all respects, coupled with 'mercy' considerations based on need and disadvantage of individuals and communities, rather than ethnic origin, per se.
Totalitarian mind
written by Guest, April 08, 2005
Sorry, I don't follow you. Are you saying that Zimmerman is a totalitarian? And that he is incapable of separating "the individual from the community where he/she lives"? That may be true, I haven't decided.

As for your question, the answer is that the current population is occupying stolen land and that the society has been trying to deal with its current interface with native people. By the way, I believe that Germany is still paying reparations for WWII.

Like I said, I just don't follow your reasoning. In particular I don't understand the relation to totalitarianism.
Germans what Germans
written by Guest, April 08, 2005
Germans were massacrated during the WWII. The alies enter German and they raped all German women not one time but many and many times.
Only in the hands of French/Americans more than 1.200.000 ( one million two hundred thousand) German soldies die in concentration campus as POW (prisioner of war). After all, the German women were humilliated and raped again again and again. Later many that could go to South America, Canada and other places in the world left the Country. The land was fill with immigrants from Turkey, India, Paquistan, Nigeria and all the american soldiers went to have a good time in Germany.
The Sovietic Union kept raping German women since few years ago when they left the area.
So, the Germans gone.
Poor Nazis
written by Guest, April 08, 2005
What kind of revisionist crap are you trying to peddle, pal? Are you the descendent of former Nazis on the run from sweet justice at the end of a rope?
Re: The allies enter Germany
written by Guest, April 08, 2005
Your contentions just don't add up! ALL German women? 1.2 million POWs dead? There just wasn't space, equipment, and allied manpower to kill and dispose of that many people.
Re: IT IS TIME!
written by Guest, April 08, 2005
Re: It's time all race-based and paternalistic systems ended, with equality under the law in all respects, coupled with 'mercy' considerations based on need and disadvantage of individuals and communities, rather than ethnic origin, per se.

THAT'S THE GW BUSH APPROACH!
Zimmermann is a typical Nazi racist from
written by Guest, April 08, 2005
Hi Zimmermann. Reading your white supremacist writings, only goes to show that you must be one of those racist Nazis, who came from or fled from Nazi Germany after the second world war.

You white racist have been stealing the land of native american or indigenous peoples and enslaved black people for over 513 years.

racist dogs like you who say negative things about native/indigenous peoples, need to go back to europe where you came from. Racist and evil right winger Nazi you are.

brazzil.com should ban the likes of you writing in the website. You should be taken to the UN anti-racism forum and teach you that your racist messages against black and indigenous peoples, make you a neo-nazi like you german and other european/white ancestors.
About German POW
written by Guest, April 08, 2005
The Ethical Factor
written by Guest, April 08, 2005
This situation with the Indians in Brazil bears some resemblence with that of the Aboriginals here in Australia.

Australians, like Brazilians, have the natural capacity to assimilate all and sundry, and so, like Brazil, Australia for most of its history had an assimilationist policy towards the Aboriginals. Naturally, this was to their benefit, as it introduced them the the modern world, with its Christian foundation, lifting them up from the backwardness and paganism in which they had been mired for millennia.

But, come the Sixties, liberals balked at this principle of assimilationism, curiously labelling it "racist", and preferred to instead keep the Aboriginals separate, giving them what they called "self-determination". But this, of course, failed to take into account their paganism, and therefore the lack of a worldview able to confer to the Aboriginals the standard and living the rest of us enjoy. Because of this, the Aboriginals have remained stuck in limbo between the primitive and modern, mired in their squalor.

Keith Windschuttle is an Australian historian who's been pulling apart in the last few years the fabrications liberals have been creating over the last forty years regarding Aboriginal history. He has been so utterly devastating because he disproves the claims of liberals by going to the sources they have cited as evidence and finds them to have been lying! Below is a link to his website:

http://www.sydneyline.com/Home.htm

As long as people fail to acknowledge the ethical basis for determining the success and failure of societies, they will waste their time charging at windmills, as the current approach to the Indians of Brazil and the Aboriginals of Australia demonstrate.

Liberals don\'t lie
written by Guest, April 09, 2005
That's the domain of the Right.
Re: Liberals don\'t lie
written by Guest, April 09, 2005
"I never had sex with that woman Ms. Lewinsky"

I guess ex-Sen Toricelli was framed?

I could go on... but my point is made!





One observation
written by Guest, April 09, 2005
Oral sex is not sex.
Another observation
written by Guest, April 09, 2005
No one ever got killed as a result of Lewinsky's blowjob.
Re: Liberals don\'t lie
written by Guest, April 09, 2005
Oooh, you got me there. No one ever accused the Right of having a sense of humor though.
I Thought That Australia\'s Policy
written by Guest, April 10, 2005
was to "whiten" up the aboriginal population just like the Brazilian government tried to "whiten" up it's Afro-Brazilian population. Brazil imported w hite immigrants to push Brazil toward an Aryan society and so did Australia. The aborigine was to be "whitened" before he was allowed access to Australian society. The black Aborigine was to be exterminated, only the offspring of black mother and white father was to be allowed into society and whiter and whiter the generations same as Brazil.

The remaining darkskinned aborigines are still on reservations not a part of white Australian society. A good movie to see is "Rabbit Proof Fence" a true story of three half-breed girls who were taken from their parents by the Australian government to boarding school where they would enter society as domestic servants in the homes of white people where the man of the house would have access to them. These children would be 3/4 white and the pattern would repeat itself until the girls were about 9 or 10 and taken away from the home where the breeding process with white men would continue until the population was sufficiently white to enter society. The aboriginal man was killed off.
Indians in North America
written by Guest, April 10, 2005
drink because the white man beat them down for hundreds of years so they are broken and in bad mental health. Drug use and drinking is prevalent among oppressed groups like the native Hawaiians, Maori of New Zealand, black Americans because they are beaten down and have no real hope in this life. It's just another form of genocide.

The Asian comes to America and does very well so does the Arab because he has not been destroyed by the white man for centuries and then made fun of because he has a drinking or drug abuse problem. He is strong and can do well in America not walk the streets in a drunken state like the native peoples.
The Fabrication of Aboriginal History
written by Guest, April 10, 2005
To: "I Thought That Australia's Policy"

That's what Keith Windschuttle's work is all about -- exposing the fabrications regarding Aboriginal history that the liberals in this country have been creating over the last 30-40 years. I mean, what he says in unassailable. He's not expressing an opinion; he's telling people to check out the sources quoted as evidence to support the liberal position. And should they do that, they'll find that they've been lying, as he has found and demonstrated in his books. Here's his website again:

http://www.sydneyline.com/Home.htm

By the way, why didn't the North Americans have a "whitening" policy with regard to their population of African descent, as you claim the Australians had with the Aboriginals?

And what do you think of New Zealand's situation? Do you know that over there the Maori, the indigines of the nation, constitute about 15% of the population -- a slightly higher percentage than the African-Americans. But guess what? Not one of them today is full-blooded. Horror of horrors, they've been "whitened"! Throughout New Zealand's history -- since before the US had her Civil War over race -- there has been happy and amicable intercourse (in the literal sense) between Maori and Pakeha (non-Maori), so much so that no single Maori today is full-blooded, all of them possessing European blood. Both Pakeha and Maori leaders supported this assimilation policy from the beginning -- until, of course, the Sixties, since which it has been considered politically incorrect to advocate this openly and as official policy. (It still happens anyway, as it always has.)

The point is, some societies have the natural capacity to assimilate all and sundry and others simply don'. White and black South Africans will never interact in the same way as white and black Brazilians. White and black New Zealanders will never interact in the same way as white and black Americans. In both cases, one society is racially divided, irrevocably so, while in the other society the opposite is the case -- and always has been, even way before the invention of political correctness.

Brazilians have the natural capacity to assimilate their Indian population, and both people can become one, contributing to and complementing their shared culture. There's no point pretending the place is the same as South Africa. The same with Australia -- we have the natural capacity to assimilate our Aboriginal population and this natural occurrence should not have been stopped from continuing its natural course in the Sixties. There's no point pretending we have had a history of racial exclusion like the United States has had with its blacks, because the opposite has simply been the case throughout our history. Pretending that we're Alabama ain't gonna help the Aboriginals -- as the last 30 years has shown.

Brazilians (and Australians) should stop pretending to be something they're not. They should just be themselves and continue assimilating people as it is their nature to.

Alcoholic, drug-addicted Jews?
written by Guest, April 10, 2005
To: Indians in North America

Are the Jews known for having a problem with alcohol abuse or drug abuse?
Brazilians do not know
written by Guest, April 10, 2005
Brazilians do not know that the Brithis had much more sex than the Portuguese with the natives in all lands that they went. In India, the most beautiful women are descendent of Brithis and native population. If you go in indian reservation you are able to see a big micigenation in our reserves trough North America.
The Reason Why American Did not Adopt a
written by Guest, April 10, 2005
Is because in the US any person with one drop of African blood or any traceable black ancestry is considered black no matter how lightskinned he is thus the policy of the US was to outright exterminate it's black population which it pretty much has accomplished. In another 90 years the African descended population of the US will pretty much be extinct.

In Brazil you can be white with some black ancestry but this is not so in Anglo Saxon America. One drop of black blood makes one black. America has had some extensive miscegenation in Louisiana among the French and Spanish. Most of the lightskinned blacks passed secretly into the white race by the 1930s so the numbers of mixed race people are hard to ascertain.

The Anglo Saxon countries have always believed it's better to exterminate than try and integrate.
The Jews did not have same history
written by Guest, April 10, 2005
The Jews are not in as bad shape as the North American native population because they have not had to endure 500 years of government sponsored genocide and technically they are white so they have had all of the privileges of being white in American society.

The Jews did not have to suffer as long under Hitler as the blacks and Native populations did in the Americas and being white helped a lot. They received far more in compensation for their suffering and pain and were not subject to the genocide, apartheid, segregation, lynchings and economic deprivations of the blacks and native Americans.
The REason America did Not Adopt a White
written by Guest, April 10, 2005
That is the entire title of my post. America preferred to exterminate than try and whiten up black people because the law states (and still does) that any black ancestry is taboo so it's better to kill off the entire population. For the Natives it was different. If you were less than 1/8th indian you could be accepted as white.
Third Time is a Charm
written by Guest, April 10, 2005
My entire post should read "Why America did not Adopt a Whitening Program like Brazil or Australia". I am trying to multi task and it is not working. Everytime the phone rings (I am doing this on my lunch hour) I forget where I left off and stupidly push the "Send" Button. Oh well third time is a charm.
Masochist-Americans?
written by Guest, April 11, 2005
Makes you wonder why African-Americans still insist on living in the United States of America. Four hundred years and they still haven't taken the hint!

I'll leave it at that before things get too heated.;-)
Great Article
written by Guest, April 11, 2005

This is a great article that shows the two sides of the coin.

Of course, this is also what makes the article so controversial in these dark days of political correctness (and fabrication of history).
To the Poster who said Masochist America
written by Guest, April 11, 2005
Hi Brazuca, hows things mate?

Long time no see, your mate Spinny, ABM etc are all missing you!

they're at www.raceandstuff.tk wondering where the hell you've been!! : )
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written by Guest, April 11, 2005
I'd like the world to know that the opinions of the Australian above reflect popular Australian sentiment.

As it was forty years ago.

"Naturally, this was to their benefit, as it introduced them the the modern world, with its Christian foundation, lifting them up from the backwardness and paganism in which they had been mired for millennia. "

hahahahaha

Alchohol, STD's influenze, glue, genocide, rape, slavery, stolen children (this is a fact, I have met several), the list goes on....

Naturally, this was greatly to their benefit.

Anyone who travels to Australia will see Aborigines living in fourth world conditions in a first world country. The poster above seems to imply that somehow it's due to a reluctance to assimilate on their part.

They were here for 40,000 years (that's FORTY THOUSAND YEARS) before Europeans. In 200 years they were completely decimated. You expect THEM to assimilate with US?

Look out the office window at the Aborigines drinking methylated spirits in the park opposite. Some of those men were leaders of their tribe.

Could anyone seriously suggest that Aborigines are BETTER OFF since the arrival of white man?
Anarchy / Chaos must be stopped
written by Guest, April 11, 2005
The indians are killing people and strong arming the government, Anarchy...it appears naplam and b-52 carpet bombing are the only solution. The stupd indians do not realize that chaos and anarchy stops tourests from the rich civilized countries from visiting. Most south american countries could profit greatly from tourest income, instead the indians / animals make sure to stop that. NAPALM and CARPET BOMBING is the answer.
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written by Guest, April 12, 2005
To: To the Poster who said Masochist America

I'm still kinda around, though not reading the forum. I wouldn't be interested in that race stuff because it would just be having to deal with Issues-ridden Americans (or Masochist-Americans). Besides, I'd be too loyal to the Brazzil forum to go to another one. But even if I wanted to I couldn't, as the plentiful time I had before is now gone.:-(

>>"Alchohol, STD's influenze, glue, genocide, rape, slavery, stolen children (this is a fact, I have met several), the list goes on.... ">>

The alcohol stems from social dysfunction, in which the Aboriginals are disproportionately represented, due to failings in charachter and a pagan worldview. Just go down to Smith Street in

STD's stem from sexual promiscuity.

Glue-sniffing comes from said social dysfunction.

Genocide? Are we talking about the FABRICATION of Aboriginal history here?

Rape? What, you're suggesting that rape didn't exist before European settlement? Besides, rape is illegal and those responsible will be prosecuted.

Stolen generation? Andrew Bolt has constantly mentioned the lack of evidence for this when those claiming such have had their claims investigated by Royal Commissions and what have you.

>>"Anyone who travels to Australia will see Aborigines living in fourth world conditions in a first world country. The poster above seems to imply that somehow it's due to a reluctance to assimilate on their part.">"They were here for 40,000 years (that's FORTY THOUSAND YEARS) before Europeans. In 200 years they were completely decimated. You expect THEM to assimilate with US? ">"Look out the office window at the Aborigines drinking methylated spirits in the park opposite. Some of those men were leaders of their tribe.">>

The leaders of the Maori tribes next door converted to Christianity, educated themselves and back in the 1800s were already prominently represented in government (there were Maori cabinet ministers around the time the US was fighting its civil war over the matter of race), the military (I've seen a photo of a Maori colonel from the First World War), the professions (there were, for example, many Maori lawyers in the 1800s), the Church and so on.

In 2005 the former Aboriginal chiefs are busy drinking methylated spirits outside your office window.

>>"Could anyone seriously suggest that Aborigines are BETTER OFF since the arrival of white man?"
African Americans Would Leave the US
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
except for the fact that we have no funds and no place to go. Unlike the American born Chinese who are finding lucrative business enterprises in China, Africa has no capacity to help black Americans. Africa can barely help herself. 600 years of the slave trade and domination by the European powers that be, Africa has a long way to go before she can sustain herself.

But when that glorius day finally arrives, there will be a massive tidal wave of blacks from not only America, but from alll over the world returning back home. But until then, African Americans will have to continue to pad the seat of their pants with newspaper and telephone books to withstand the ass kicking.
Austrian economics
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
First of all, y'all need to familiarise yourself with the Austrian school of economics, in order to understand the wealth and poverty of societies and therefore how you can be confident of creating such a society.

And, secondly, don't you worry about Africa -- I'll take care of that.:-) Alls it needs is one small country to act as an example (not mentioning any names), let's it Singapore II, and other societies on the continent will be driven to emulate this Singapore II as has happened in Asia over the last few decades, where the rapid success of countries like Singapore have inspired other Asian countries to mimick them.

This small country (Singapore II) already has the right people and the right conditions to effect this change. And I'm suitably connected by birth to the right people over there, and suitably associated with the right entrepreneurs over here, that, with God's providence and blessing, I shall be able to play a crucial role in helping bring this about.

Y'all just keep voting Democrat or something and try to keep out of trouble and I'll look after the rest.;-D
Re: The Jews did not have same history
written by Guest, May 24, 2005
"The Jews did not have to suffer as long under Hitler as the blacks and Native populations did in the Americas and being white helped alot."

The Jews have sufferred, and still suffer, from (insert any injustice here) far longer than any other group of people in history.

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