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Brazil Cast a Spell On Me and the World PDF Print E-mail
2005 - April 2005
Written by Michael Kepp   
Thursday, 07 April 2005 08:35

Brazilian CandonbléForeigners seem to be becoming increasingly enchanted with all things Brazilian, except, that is, the country itself. Brazil remains a taboo destination for most international tourists, scared away by sensationalist foreign media stories like a recent one in The Independent of London that described Rio as a city of cocaine and carnage.

But as long as foreigners can savor "Brazilian-ness" from a safe distance, their fascination with the people and the culture seems to grow.

"Almost everywhere you turn, there's a bit of Brazil in the air," Newsweek noted in October, crediting Lula, Ronaldo, Gisele, Gilberto Gil with helping spread the positive contagion.

Lula is perhaps the key cupid for this love affair. Newsweek said that his standing up to protectionism in the rich world, "playing Lilliputian to America's unilateral Gulliver... resonates well in a time of post-Iraq-war sensibilities."

This love affair could also be linked to a global need for a nation that offers both a lucid and playful counterbalance in an increasingly fearful and bellicose world.

American writer Tom Robbins recently wrote that "serious playfulness may be an effective means of domesticating fear and pain." By that, he means not denying the existence of suffering, but using a positive form playfulness "to deny suffering dominion over our lives."

That's what Brazil did, in August, when it sent its national soccer team to play an exhibition game in Haiti amid the chaos that followed an armed insurrection that had toppled the President.

This seriously playful initiative buoyed Haitian spirits and focused world attention on the country's drama. Some 1,200 Brazilian peacekeeping troops paved the way for the national team in their first act - distributing of 1,000 soccer balls to Haitian children.

Both forms of soccer diplomacy explain why Haiti's love affair with Brazil and its national sport have "grown to obsessive proportions," according to New York Times story in August.

Gilberto Gil also played cupid in his seriously playful dual role as minister/musician. A story in the Daily Telegraph of London with the headline "Brazil has a New Energy," described how he wooed Moroccans by "one morning giving thoughtful speech...the night after getting thousands cheering along to his particular brand of reggae-influenced Brazilian pop."

The energy of ordinary Brazilians abroad is equally contagious. At the Olympics, they (seriously) rooted for their beach volleyball teams by (playfully) dancing to Bahian rhythms that caused the entire crowd to vibrate.

Such solidarity is what caused American jazz guitarist John Pizzarelli to recently say in the Brazilian daily O Globo that Brazil "is the only place in the world where the audience sings along with you."

Foreign rapture with Brazil won't fall out of fashion any time soon. There is, more than ever, a global thirst for an optimistic people who - because they have (in comparison to most peoples) absorbed, rather than alienated, racial and cultural differences - can spread their inclusive and playful positivism abroad.

Even I, an American living here, have used this growing global love affair with Brazil as my own personal shelter.

Several years ago, while trying to order food in Portuguese in a Rome pizzaria, a group of 12 at nearby table asked me where I was from.

To avoid their reaction to my saying "the United States," I said "Brazil." And the entire group burst out with "Brasiliano!"

This article was originally published by the daily Folha de S. Paulo.

Michael Kepp is an American journalist who has lived in Brazil for the last 21 years and who has written for Time, Newsweek and many other U.S. publications.  He is the author of the book of crônicas "Sonhando com Sotaque - Confissões e Desabafos de um Gringo Brasileiro." For more information on the author and book consult www.michaelkepp.com.br.



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The SOCIALIST spell
written by Guest, April 07, 2005
How do you square this with Lula slandering Brazil's farmers as "slave laborers"? I guess this would serve as a cupid for Brazilian Socialism, but not normal people.

Below is a good article about Lula slandering a large section of Brazilians to the world:

http://www.tfp.org/lulawatch/v3_jan12/1.html
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written by Guest, April 07, 2005
--How do you square this with Lula slandering Brazil's farmers as "slave laborers"?--

For the most part they ARE slave laborers - as well as grilieros, as well as pistoleiros. Christ, were are you living? Obviously not Brazil - maybe some redneck State in the South of the U.S that hated giving up their free labour not sooo long agooo...
Resident in Brazil !
written by Guest, April 07, 2005
it's all very nice to say that there is alot of interest in Brazil from other countries but how does any of that help the 40 million people that go to bed each night with no dinner! Lula's program, "food for the poor" is a complete failure, just like Lula..
Re: Free labor
written by Guest, April 07, 2005
The USA abolished slavery in 1865, Brazil in 1889. Which is "not so long ago"?
Re: Free labor
written by Guest, April 07, 2005
The USA abolished slavery in 1865, Brazil in 1889. Which is "not so long ago"?
going be with out dinner
written by Guest, April 07, 2005
I lived with my mother until 20 years old. After that I went to live with my father. My mother was very poor and my father very rich. However, all money that my mother made, she used to buy food.
So, I wanted to go to University and my father could help me. He was living alone with his current wife and with 3 cars in the garage. He was and he is a big land lord in Brazil and he is fan of Lula.
Anyway, when I was 20 years old. I passed to live with my father. In spite of wealthy they did offer anything to eat after 5 pm. I started to go to be with empty stomach.
One day, after the breakfast, we drove to a farm that he has near buy his house. The couple, which lived there in permanent bases where a german imigrant couple. The woman asked me if I want to have a breakfast. I said yes with shine eyes and I ate, I ate a lot. Later I heared my father complying to his wife that I was going hunger and told what happened in the morning.
So, my dear friend, my mother was very poor woman. She used to feed me at 7 am, 11 am, 4 pm, 8 pm and then 2 am again. In the house of my wealth father was a breakfast 7 am, a lunch 12 pm and then another coffe with milk and bread at 5 pm.
Today, I am 43 years old. I have a wife, she complains that I eat a lot. I should to eat only 3 times per day.
I still confuse if we should go to be with empty stomach.
Perhaps, we poor people have our thoughts toward food.
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written by Guest, April 08, 2005
Despite the problems of Brazil, Brazilians still maintain a positive optismistic attitude unlike Americans who despite their wealth are mostly sour, unhappy, spoiled brat whiners.

Traveling to Salvador Brasil was a real treat. Being around people who enjoyed their lives. I agree Americans can do more to help the working class Brazilians. There is nothing like sharing a little of your wealth with people who are blessing you with their kindness and generosity even if it's just treating your new found friends to dinner.
Re: going be with out dinner
written by Guest, April 08, 2005
People that support socialism are usually selfish and feel entitled to other people's money.
Americans helping Brazilians
written by Guest, April 08, 2005
So let me get this straight, you call us sour, unhappy and spoiked brat whiners and in the next sentence you have your hand out. And with your remark, you are blessing us with kindness?

I want to be the helpful one as anyone else, but if my wife or loved ones call me an a*****e, I am not sending flowers, sorry.
Americans helping Brazilians
written by Guest, April 08, 2005
So let me get this straight, you call us sour, unhappy and spoiked brat whiners and in the next sentence you have your hand out. And with your remark, you are blessing us with kindness?

I want to be the helpful one as anyone else, but if my wife or loved ones call me an a*****e, I am not sending flowers, sorry.
Americans are the best brazilian friends
written by Guest, April 08, 2005
Some decades ago. The American saved us from Communism. They came here and inspire the army to make a revolution. This happened in all Latin America. They taught our brothers how to make torture in the prisons. How to smash and kill all the communist. They helped the dominant class to be more wealth and increase the poverty of the nation.
Our dear America loaned easy money to the wrong government in our Country. Brazil as like all Latin America with some exceptions did the American game.
The big mistake of the Americans in South America was not give an opportunity to Mr. Fidel Castro to play profissional baseball in the United States. Fidel Castro could be a good man and could be somebody in the life. It hurted him so much and then he decided to go back to Cuba in a small boat that even sinked before arrive in the Cuba Island. Fidel became a different person. It is so difficult today to invite him to party. He does not want to live the island.
I have good American friends but in general American are friends of the money, the money and power that they can get to them. Now, like never they need to control Latin America. Since the America economy is sinking, once the world economy is shifting to Asia.
Welcome my American friends. Only that now I sleep with a lead underwear.
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written by Guest, April 08, 2005
----They taught our brothers how to make torture in the prisons. How to smash and kill all the communist. They helped the dominant class to be more wealth and increase the poverty of the nation.

Nope. Ya'll have yourselves to thank for all that. U.S envolvement in Brazil was alomost NON EXISTANT in the early 60s. Sure L Gordon had a few chats with governors and Military leaders who were disillusioned with Jango and his flip flopping ill concieved socialists ideas: leading the country into total financial anarchy. Sure the US was on stand-bye with fuel aid (but it wasn't needed). The real masterminds of the coup were Branco, Geisel, Golbery, Lacerda and the cheering choir in the Brazilian Press.The reason is was all over and done in a matter of days, was that opposition didn't exist. Ya'll cheered on the tanks rolling through Rio.

Brazilians didn't need a lesson in torture, ya 'll have perfected your own unique brand of making people suffer. Christ, the police in Brazil are still honing their skills, but in stead of torture, they find it easier to just kill off what they see as a problem. Oh, but I guess the U.S made the police kill 30 last week in Rio too...

But I can't blame you for your ignorance regarding your countrys history. Until the Military opens up its files for the world to see, you'll only have rumors and myths by which to judge that 20 year blackhole in your past. Heaven forbid Lula force the Military to reveal who ordered what to be done to whom. The truth would hrt too much. Best leave the population believing they were forced into it by the Yanks - it absolves Brazilians from all responsibility.
Yes
written by Guest, April 08, 2005
Brazil is the only place in the world where people sing along. We love Brazil!
Re: Sing along
written by Guest, April 08, 2005
That's because they are drunk~
School of Americas
written by Guest, April 08, 2005
So, I guess the infamous school of the Americas, where torture and subjugation of the capitalism's enemies was taught extensively by the U.S. forces, was just a "bad dream" that never occurred.... Nevertheless, the U.S. has bloodied hands whenever Latin America's history is concerned. Heck! They even burnt their own black folks in the southern states...And, a massacre is deplorable no matter if is committed by rogue police in "evil" Rio or by a gun toting high-school punk In "civilized" Minnesotta.
In the USA
written by Guest, April 08, 2005
There are no torture. They are the champions of the human rights.
In Iraque war no Torture of the prisioners, all those pictures were made in the laboratory by computer. War Propaganda. In Guantanamo no torture.
America is a free Country where they respect the human rights.
School of Americas??
written by Guest, April 08, 2005
Where were you going with this? Yes, there was a great deal of U.S meddling in Latin America, but in Brazil NO. Can't you fathom that distinction? Let's get our facts straight here ladies. Brazil's coup and the decades of abuse that followed were products of Brazil. Full stop. Sure, if you want to take the case of Guatemala, and apply it to Brazil because of a lack of historical references here (because you are NOT allowed to dig into this issue) be my guest. You're only cheating yourselves.

And yes there is a large distinction to be made between a whacked out kid randomly killing a dozen classmates, and an organized group of police with the role of to protect and serve targeting a group of 30 in two different locals. Both are horrible, and reprehensible, but we should expect a bit more from those employed to keep the peace. Don't you think? How many dead a year in Brazil???????

Is Rio EVIL? No. But it aint no peace camp either.

Sure America is to blame for everything – if it gets you though the day thinking that, why not…*sigh*
school of americas?
written by Guest, April 09, 2005
I agree with whoever wrote this last comment. I am Brazilian and
I think that when the police kills 30 people just because they can, it is something completely different than a kid going crazy at a high school.
C'mon, and there are Brazilians asking for Peace. They should be demanding justice!
Sofia
Sofia
written by Guest, April 09, 2005
Why ta go sophia - it's time to stop cringing over international news, complaining about the injustices in a country no one will ever visit (nor care to visit), when the atrocities that unfold daily in Brasil are in dire need of resolve. Brasil is a brilliant country, with a brilliant array of cultures, but there is a need for some serious reforms, and the public needs to draw their attention back to what it is that affects them. Crying fowl becasue Bush is an idiot won't help the tens of thousands who will be killed in Brasil over this coming year.
US medling
written by Guest, April 10, 2005
"Yes, there was a great deal of U.S meddling in Latin America, but in Brazil NO. Can't you fathom that distinction? Let's get our facts straight here ladies. Brazil's coup and the decades of abuse that followed were products of Brazil. Full stop." This is off topic, but it is necessary to respond to this misinformation. The US clearly assisted in the military coup in Brazil.

Documents from the national security classification files show the US helped to overthrow the elected Brazilian government of Joao Goulart in 1964 and supported a military dictatorship in its place. Since Goulart’s nationalistic economic policies lacked US approval, U.S. ambassador Lincoln Gordon sent top secret cables to national security officials in Washington pleading for "a clandestine delivery of arms" for military coup plotters.

On March 29, 1964, Ambassador Gordon recommended secretly "pre-positioning" the armaments to be used by "friendly military." President Johnson had authorized CIA covert operations to support anti-Goulart military and political forces.

The new material includes an audio tape of President Johnson receiving a Brazil briefing by phone at his Texas ranch, as general and admirals mobilized against Brazil’s elected government. "I'd put everybody that had any imagination or ingenuity...[CIA Director John] McCone...[Secretary of Defense Robert] McNamara" on ensuring the coup’s success, Johnson instructs undersecretary of State George Ball. "We just can't take this one," Johnson says. "I'd get right on top of it and stick my neck out a little."
America\'s Police Force Far Worse
written by Guest, April 10, 2005
than Rio's or any other police force in Brazil. America is also full of f-cked up white kids shooting up schools and a misguided Native kid who thought he was white. The violence in the US far surpasses the violence in Brazil or the rest of the worlds. There are more prisoners (most of them black) incarcerated in America's jails than any other country in the world and it's all a money game. Lock em up, throw away the key and keep the prison investors happy.

Money rules America. America meddles in Brazil's affairs as much as they do the rest of the world's. Trying to force Brazil to sterilize it's undesirable populations before they receive American assistance.

American police have been caught on tape numerous times beating it's black citizens. America is the most violent country on earth, meddles in everyone's business, drop bombs on innocent people and its government is run like a crime syndicate worse than Brazils.
America the Exterminator
written by Guest, April 10, 2005
Brazil does on small scale what America does on large scale. American society very violent with police force critcized by the UN for Rodney King and other assaults and heavy black incarcerations for no criminal offenses. America beating up Iraqi prisoners and murder Saddams sons in cold blood and yet call Brazil murderer.

America go all over the world murdering people in cold blood for greedy profits. Like previous poster said dropping bombs on innocent people if the country refuses to do America's bidding. Nobody violent like America and America is the world's s**t stirrer meddling in everyone, including Brazil's business.
US medling
written by Guest, April 10, 2005
*Sigh*

Most of the declassified documents on the American side do show willingness to intervene, and oust Goulart. That said, repeatedly throughout the memos (back and forth from Gordon to Washington), you do see the president, George Ball, Thomas Mann et.al telling Gordon “not to commit”[my quotations] to anything or anyone. They were worried that Goulard, at the 11th hour, could strike some sort of accord with the military that would have left them with egg on their faces.

Ball is heard saying in one recording:

A quick run-down of the situation in Brazil. We had a meeting this morning with Bob McNamara and Max Taylor and General O’Meara, who’s come up overnight. And we decided, on the basis of the information that had come in this morning, to go ahead and start a naval task force out but with "no commitment" [my quoatations] so that it will be steaming down in that direction. It couldn’t get into the area" before April 10th" [my quatations again] and in the meantime we can watch the developments and "see whether it should go on or not" [you get the drift]…

This was on the 31st of March. While the coup was well under way.

SO! The coup was planned and implemented by BRASILIANS, and was implemented before US aid made it to Brazil, and without any commitment at all from Johnston. The US did favour Castello, but no promises were made, no garuntees promised, it was all STAND BY support which WASN'T NEEDED in the end. What were the headlines that ran on the that March Morning? "BASTA" or "FORA" ring any bells?

Now, so far, you and I have both cited US documents - when do you think we'll get the chance to see any Brasilian Military documents on this affair?

I thought so...
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written by Guest, April 10, 2005
---Brazil does on small scale what America does on large scale. American society very violent with police force critcized by the UN for Rodney King---

You're comparing a drug addict being beaten by two or three idiots with the systematical assissinatin of 30 people by an organized group of Rio Cops? No wonder Rio's in trouble..
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written by Guest, April 10, 2005
"Nobody violent like America and America is the world's s**t stirrer meddling in everyone, including Brazil's business."

Next time write in your native language, that was just too painful read.
America is a s**t country
written by Guest, April 10, 2005
America people are so unhappy that almost everybody is overweight. The standard of living is going down, people are losing jobs and they need to eat only carbohydrates to live. graves and more graves.
A lot of
written by Guest, April 10, 2005
YOUR quotes. Nice to be able to write your own history, putting your words in the mouths of others. You conclusion that the US didn't meddle in Brazilian politics is wishful thinking. It supported the coup.
And
written by Guest, April 10, 2005
Spare us your condescending *sigh*s.
Documents
written by Guest, April 10, 2005
Well, from what I've read, the secrecy of documents was a military imposed requirement of handing the government over to the people. That is being challenged. The military destroyed documents. Some survived and Brazil can hope that they will be made public. As for the US documents, they have only been released from the "national security" vaults some 40 years after the fact. Brazil has had a democracy for some 20 years. Get off your nationalistic cheerleading for the US, unless you see your role as a self-appointed cheerleader, in which case, just go away.
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written by Guest, April 10, 2005
. America is the world's biggest killer and murderer. America has been all over the world committing murder and genocide and is the biggest thief in world's history. That is why the Vatican won't consider electing an American pope. Too much blood on their hands to sit in the chair of St. Peter. Too violent, bloodthirsty a country. If you add up the numbers of murders America commits both domestically and internationally that number would far surpass the number of murders committed in Brazil.
US Medling?
written by Guest, April 10, 2005
Is seems to me that whoever post a comment here has something very personal with the issue at hand. Not that there is anything wrong with that in principle! It is easier to take a side, Brazil is better or worse than the US,etc.It is much more helpful for readers to consider a balanced view of the two countries.But that takes thought and understanding,flexibility, some ligthness. You guys, regardless of nationality, are too sour cream. It seems to me that you guys did not get a date with an American or a Brazilian. Or you have been denied some sort of participation in either society! For the moment, I will just enjoy Michael Kepp's sensuous eyes. A sign, maybe, of a great mixture of American objectivity with Brazilian way of seducing! The World needs that! Sophia again.
US Medling
written by Guest, April 10, 2005
Correction on previous coment:" It seems to me... "OOOppsss!!!!
Sohia
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written by Guest, April 10, 2005
Death Squad Threatens Lawyers in Brazil PDF Print E-mail
Written by Newsroom
Saturday, 09 April 2005

Two lawyers and an NGO leader in Brazil have suffered death threats and intimidation which appear to be linked to their work to bring two alleged "death squad" members to justice. Amnesty International believes their lives are in danger.

Isabel Peres is the Coordinator of the Brazilian branch of the NGO ACAT (Christian Association for the Abolition of Torture). Together with lawyers Francisco Lúcio França and José de Jesus Filho, she has been involved in the prosecution of two police officers, who are accused of the murder of two youths.

The trial took place in Mongaguá municipality, on the southern coast of São Paulo state, from 21-23 March. At the end of the first day of the trial, two cars followed Francisco Lúcio França and José de Jesus Filho to the place where they were staying. On March 26, another car followed Isabel Peres to the place where she was staying.

On March 25, Francisco Lúcio França was out with two friends in a shopping center in the center of São Paulo. A man approached him and said he was a police officer called "Lúcio", a member of a "grupo de extermínio" (death squad) which "fazia o serviço sujo da Polícia" (carried out the dirty work of the police).

He told França, "Você pare com o processo, se não você morre! (You should drop this case, or else you will die!) and went on to say that he had come to São Paulo to "identificar" (identify) two people.

It was clear from what "Lúcio" said that he was talking about the prosecution of the two police officers, who had been acquitted two days earlier.

The public prosecutor's case has lodged an appeal against the acquittal. Key witnesses to the murder are now believed to be in particular danger: like the police officers who are now free, they live in Mongaguá, where the murders took place.

The police officers are accused of murdering 16-year-old Anderson do Carmo and 20-year-old Celso Gioelli Magalhães Júnior, on September 27, 2002.

The two young men were visiting a bar in Mongaguá, when two police officers, who had threatened them earlier, called to them to get into their police car. They tried to escape, but the police caught them, and witnesses saw the officers beat them severely.

The officers took them away in the car, saying they were taking them for questioning at the municipal police station. However, their bodies were found a few days later in a shallow grave.

A bullet was found in each body, which were identified as having been fired from the gun of one of the police officers. Further evidence implicated the second police officer. The two officers were dismissed from the Military Police and charged with the killings.

Across Brazil, "death squads" carry out extrajudicial executions of criminal suspects, in situations sometimes known as "social cleansing", and are also involved in organized crime: among them are serving and former police officers.

There have been some successful crackdowns on "death squad" activity, notably in the state of Bahia. However, at least 30 people were killed in Rio's Baixada Fluminense district on 31 March in two hours of indiscriminate shooting by "death squad" members, believed to include military police officers.

The attack is believed to have been a response to a crackdown on "death squads" and corruption within Rio's Military Police force.
Death Squads
written by Guest, April 10, 2005
Given all the good economic views coming from Brazil lately, maybe, the bankers, since they seem to be making so much money, should pay for corrupt police officers to be tried and jailed. But not in Brazil, the government should outsource prison and justice's infrastructure from another country. Corruption in the country is not just an isolated thing, it permeates every sector of society. In Japan, kids learn at the very early age earthquake safety procedures. In the US, elementary school kids learn how to fight off child m******rs. Brazilians kids should be getting anti-corruption crash courses in pre-school. The Brazilian way "o jeitinho' is not a cultural commodity anymore. It only encourages corruption! The challenge is find ways to support government's actions when it is designed to protect the lives of citizens,regarless of political affiliations. Can the country do that? Why is that people involved in groups such as "Viva o Rio"(?)ask make demonstrations asking for Peace? Is is the right word? Justice! Corrupts/criminals judges and police officers tried and in prison far away in a island somewhere where sharks are hungry! And the Brazilian elite needs at least to fund the island environment conservation! Obrigado!
Brazil Enfeitica (Brazil Casts Its Spell
written by Guest, April 11, 2005
Regardless of the negativity publicity Brazil is getting lately Brazil's greatest gift to me is my husband who is from Sao Paulo,Brazil. He is truly the great love of my life and he takes me back to my "young girl days". All the naysayers who talk negatively about Brazil and it's people are talking sh&t. Brazil is a beautiful and incredible country and so are it's people. My Brazilian husband has made me one happy lady!!!
Brazil Enfeitica
written by Guest, April 11, 2005
I agree with you. Brazil is a beautiful country and its people are incredible. We(brazilians) have a lot to be proud of. The sooner we get rid off of corruption and social injustice, better off we will be. I wrote the comment above yours, my outrage is not with Brazilians in general, but with a corrupt, rotten, old,and so colonial system that force "favelados"to live in less than humane conditions! How do you think Americans would feel if American cops start shooting people in the streets in retaliation for being forced to obey the laws? My outrage is very patriotic! The vast majority of Brazilians are honest and hard working people who deserve to have basic citizenship rights, such as, not getting threatned and shot by those who are suppose to protect them. That's all. (Sofia)
Yes again
written by Guest, April 11, 2005
You are correct, Sofia.
Brazilians are a big joke
written by Guest, April 11, 2005
A country full of corrupt people. The man is a nice husband because now he is older and he does not have so much option in the life. Wait him to get his American citizenship or become more stable in the life. And then you are going to see what this old man can do.
In Brazil, if you are a cop. You must to kill all those guys. What two young men are doing in a bar during the night. They should be on bed at 8 pm. Get up at 4 am and get the bus to the job. They are not workers. So, clean the land from this kind of parasite.
Beauty does not put food over the table. It is better everybody goes to work instead to talk nonsense here.
Bastards. Everybody in Brazil is son of a bitch.
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written by Guest, April 11, 2005
"He is truly the great love of my life and he takes me back to my "young girl days". All the naysayers who talk negatively about Brazil and it's people are talking sh&t."

Your husband typifies all that is Brazilian? Brazilians are all caring, honest and hard working people because your husband is? Wow, cultural studies have just made a quantum leap foreward with new innovative and more exact methodologies. The Pope was Polish THEREFORE everyone in Poland speak 6 languages....works for me..
Accountability
written by Guest, April 11, 2005
Brazil must assume - here it comes - " ACCOUNTABILITY!!!! " until the Brazilian people begin and start asking serious questions about your very own nature and morals.Innocent people are dying because of ignorance and a lack of respect for its community and society! Brazil wake up.... Brazilian people wake up!!! Everybody complains and points fingers at the government shouting Corruption and Scandal ( cowards I say )......and yet Brazilians fail to realize or deny/pretend whatever you call it but the the Government is the People! Accountability - actions speaks louder than words and we all know how brazilians are all full of words? Until the Brazilians look int the mirror and decide what they want - you can keep blaming the Government because what goes aqround comes around.
Brazil, Earn it...
written by Guest, April 11, 2005
Brazil and Brazilians crave for international recognition and respect but just like anything else ... Do you want to be respected? you will have to
EARN this elusive thing called respect from the US and the rest of the world by doing the right thing.... it takes work but if you succeed it will be a lot woth it...
We are watching... babycrying doesnt help... I am rooting for
you all... Good Luck!
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written by Guest, April 11, 2005
We are watching? Who are "we"? Could you please identify who are these "judges"? I don't know of any country that doesn't not crave recognition.The only recognition that Brazil needs is the respect of its own citizens. Any other form of respect or recognition would be a complement or a byproduct of something from inside out. Isn't the US now also desesperately craving approval for its foreign policies in Europe? Stop talking like a bully in a playground! You've just elbowed (or blowed up) your way to the top of the slide, only to stick your tongue out: you can't get me...aha,aha,aha. I will not let you get by me...only if you give me your lunch money and candy! We don't need your cheerleading! By the way, next year is Brazil Year in France. Viva La France! Way to go Brazil.
But I still think that the "death squads" suck!
(Sophia)
Doing \"the right thing\"
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
You have acquired all "the international recognition and respect" by invading other countries and killing innocent people...Way to go Big Brother!
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written by Guest, April 12, 2005
Would you neandrathals please stopping countering every negative point of view here with "oh, America sucks too". For your information, there are a lot of people who read and respond to these threads who are not Yankees. What is your obssession with Americans? HOw do you know when an American Posts or say someone from South Africa?

Repond to the points - its th adult thing to do.
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written by Guest, April 12, 2005
Oh, people can tell…Many people who post from the US are smug and opinionated. They treat others like children, for example, like telling people what is "adult." People who talk about "accountability" or "earning respect from the US" are pretty easy to peg as Yankees. And I think it's that smug, self-important, self-satisfied, condescending, know-it-all attitude that grates on people and cuases the response to which you refer. Someone said of Geroge W. Bush that he's a guy who was born on third base and struts around like he hit a triple. Well, that's how many in the US act. It's sort of an American personality trait. So, they're pretty easy to spot.
All countries have problems
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
The U.S. was a better country about ten years ago. Since then we've been sinking. We still have the hope that we can turn things around. I hope you realize that the average person is not in control of things in the U.S. Some of us think we are. That fact doesn't mean we don't like the U.S. We like it because it's home. Everyone in the U.S. is not as educated as he or she should be. We don't know our own history. I see problems in Brazil too but I like the family life, the joie de vivre, the extended family, the culture. I don't like the color bias -- but we have that here too. Every large eastern and northern U.S. has had death squads -- nobody talks about it -- but you can read about it in the old African American newspapers. As late as the 60's Detroit had death squads.

I hope everyone realizes that the president is in charge of our foreign policy. It as become clear to us in recent years that we all need to know more about foreign policy so that we can make better decisions about electing leaders.

There's a connection I have with Brazil that I don't want to talk about right now. I'll just say that my connection comes through the people, music and culture of Bahia. It's an overwhelmingly good feeling just to be able to see the capoiera, Candomble, and hear the drums. You just don't know how special it was. Brazil gave me a missing link in my heritage and that's worth a lot. It is my hope that someone can help the people of Bahia make more money. If I could I would buy all the art that is for sale. I'm not a rich person but I'll return and buy as much as I can. I sent my daughter there to study for a semester and we have been overwhelmed by the goodness of her host family. They truly accepted her as a family. I hope I am able to return again and again. Bahia is in me forever. Bahia enriched my life -- if I could afford an apartment there I would get one.
I didn't intend to say so much.
Love Brazil Anyway!!
All countries have problems
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
I am sure you had a great time in Bahia as you would have had in most places in Brazil.I just hope that Bahians don't become sour like so many Blacks here in the US. One of the great aspects of Brazilian society is the inclusion of the other.Even if this inclusion is limited to personal relationships, like your daugther staying over with her host familiy. The average American is not directely responsible for American foreign policies, you are right. The average Brazilian is not directely responsible for the actions of the Rio police,either. But our daily lives, depending on where we live, can be affected in such a tragic way by these policies! It has the power to influence the way we feel and act as individuals and as a collective mass. There a lot of good things about the US and those who can't see any are as blind as some Brazilians who don't see anything wrong with Brazil. It is just a matter of common sense! An adult,thing? (Sophia)
Sour - no; Freedom-maintaining - yes
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
I don't know what you mean by "so many blacks here" being "sour," but let me say that any people of any hue in any country who do not seek to maintain voting rights and other civil liberties and freedom will lose it. The word "sour" is misplaced.
Misplaced

Accountability
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
I agree, so easy to cry and cry and cry. Time to step up the the plate and take a little responsibility. You don't like your situation, change it.
Accountability
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
I don't understand the last post -- who's crying?

Anyway, I still like Brazil overall because of what it is and what it will become. Negative statements don't deter me. I was simply trying to change the negative tenor of the posts and got drawn into negativity myself. I recognize the challenges of Brazil but I don't like to criticize someone else's country. Every problem I've seen mentioned here we have in the U.S. Everyone -- enjoy your day.
Pot/Kettle
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
“Many people who post from the US are smug and opinionated. They treat others like children, for example, like telling people what is "adult." People who talk about "accountability" or "earning respect from the US" are pretty easy to peg as Yankees. And I think it's that smug, self-important, self-satisfied, condescending, know-it-all attitude that grates on people and causes the response to which you refer.”

If that quote isn’t the pot calling the kettle black I don’t know what is. The most smug, self-important, self-satisfied, condescending, know-it-all people that I’ve ever met either live in or were raised in Sao Paulo. I don’t mean to say that all Paulistas are such, but many that I have met are. You don’t have to look far in either country for these “bad” characteristics.

If only Brazilians and Americans had as many answers as they think they do. I’ve lived in and studied both countries and there are no easy answers in either one. Neither country has clean hands with respect to its history. Some posters pointed out US involvement and support of anti-communist efforts in Latin America and the death and destruction that it wrought. How about the death and destruction wrought by Brazil on Uruguay and Brazil’s own native population. For every US evil there is a corresponding Brazilian evil. Sometimes the difference is only a matter of scale, but it’s still evil. We should all cut out the hyperbole and emotional rhetoric (mostly blame America for all of the world’s problems and Brazil is a paradisiacal outpost of happiness) and take ownership of our problems and try to solve them.
Pot/Kettle
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
GREAT POST!
Bahia Casts A Spell On You
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
For all those who traveled to Bahia were you too caught up in the magic of Bahia. I especially loved Salvador and Cachoiera. I am not wealthy either but I am willing to share what I can with the people there especially in the way of assistance for educational facilities. The people were wonderful, so was the food and the ease of life.

I heard and read all the negatives of poverty there but the people there are very, very wealthy in culture. I totally fell in love with the black church in the Pelourinho. Yes both Brazil and America both have their problems but in Brazil there is a certain optimism in the air that is hard to find in America.
Pot/Kettle
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
IDIOTIC POST! I see, now it's "Brazil sucks too." So much for your "adult" response. In fact, I can't fathom what your point is. "Take ownership of our problems"? What the hell are you on about? More smug bulls**t from a Yankee a*****e. Brazil IS working on its problems. Do you have something to say, or do you only have platitudes to offer?
Brasil Responsible for Brasil (stop the
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
This article was a very good article about our country (Brasil). Why are there so many ignorant Brasilians. We do have problems just like any other country. No country is perfect. But as long as we blame others for our problems and look to others for help we will always have problems. Look no country can meddle in Brasil's business unless our government let's them. We are a soveirgn country. So if we got problems we need to blame our government and we need to do what we need to do to change things here!!!
Happy People!?
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
We brazilians are tough people and at the same time we are soft, careless with the future, selfish about happiness, generous, friendly guys, hard workers, innocent, helpful, beautiful, weird, hot, little cold, trustworthy and untrustworthy. These are all the ingreedients that make foreigners fall in love with brazil. I've lived in others coutries and despite their qualities and differences they lack all these ingreedients combined together that make Brazil. No one country should be igual in their culture, we all need and deserve a better life quality without hunger, poverty, war, but a life full of love and brotherhood.
We brazilians have a great country and we are great people but lets not forget to demand more from our governments and work to achieve a fair share of the cake for each single brazilian.
Happy People!#3
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Finally a very good post from a Brazilian. But let's not only demand from our government, let's also demand from our neighbours, our friends, and our relatives. If you have a friend who is being corrupt,let's see, not paying his property taxes for months,tell him that taxes support education and health care for all citizens. We,Brazilians,need to be less condescending when it comes to desonesty! When a drunk driver(most of them are not even intoxicated) runs the red lights and kills innocent pedestrians, we need to stand up and demand justice! Let's also share our sense of justice. Maybe then Brazil will really be a true Paradise. (in the future?)
No borders
written by Guest, April 14, 2005
Nationalism, Racism, Classism, Religion. There all con games, designed to keep you confused and on you knees. Stop aiding & abetting your tormentors. Allow yourself to be skeptical of what you "know".
Pot/Kettle Response
written by Guest, April 14, 2005
In response to:

“IDIOTIC POST! I see, now it's "Brazil sucks too." So much for your "adult" response. In fact, I can't fathom what your point is. "Take ownership of our problems"? What the hell are you on about? More smug bulls**t from a Yankee a*****e. Brazil IS working on its problems. Do you have something to say, or do you only have platitudes to offer?”

My post definitely had nothing to do with “Brazil sucks too” or being an "adult" response (whatever that is). As a matter of fact, I love Brazil and think that its lifestyle and culture has much to offer. I also feel the same way about the US. But that’s not to say that either country is perfect and that’s the main point of my post. The other point is that people in both countries need to give up the victim mentality that causes them to blame everyone else for their problems. If you don't think this is true just read some posts on this site. In Brazil, it’s blame the US. In the US, it’s blame the cigarette company or any one else with deep pockets. Neither country was built on this type of ignorant selfish behavior. Those who carved Brazil out of the coastal jungle and the US out of the wooded plains didn’t blame anyone else for their problems, they just solved problems (not perfectly--see slavery and indians--but they got things done). I think both countries are lacking in this attitude of self responsibility and are resting too much on their past.

The ignorance displayed by your post makes it almost not worth responding to, but for those reasonable persons out there who enjoy healthy discussions about real issues I wanted to respond. Why is it when someone points out that Brazil is not paradise on earth they become a smug, Yankee peddler of BS? Does that mean all who call the US evil and blame it for the world’s problems are smug, Brazilian/French/Islamic, etc. peddlers of BS (hint-the answer is no if they use facts and have a point)?
Right,Sir!
written by Guest, April 14, 2005
Both countries need to solve problems not to blame others! Some Brazilians blame the IMF for Brazil's huge foreign debt. Brazil borrowed money from American and Europeans banks in the 70's; they did not fully used all the money wisely; a lot of it went into the corrupt politicians' pockets. It is like going way beyond your credit line in your credit card. You run out of money to pay your bills, your account is now overdue for months, you can't pay the principal, you can only pay interest. Then, instead of blaming yourself, you blame the your credit card company. Obviouslly, the IMF wants to make a lot of money but if we didn't have corrupt politicians spending the money and not giving anything back to the people, we would not have this astronomical debt now! This is a very simplistic way to explain a far more complex issue. But you need to get the story straight to kids of all ages in Brazil. Maybe in a form of a Fairy Tale from Hell! But these same politicians now have relatives who want to run the governmnet and isntitutions in Brazil. Why is that the Brazilian media does not contextualize history to its readers? Just look at big CEOs last names, any matches? It is that simple. ( A Brazilian )
I totaly agree with this last post
written by Guest, April 15, 2005
We can't let the same mistakes of the past happen again. We have to look into history or not too long ago, to see where the wealth of this country has gone and now who is paying the bills. I ask you guys - Have you seen the money that Maluf stole from we tax-payers come back to Barzil's coffer? We need to do more for this country, we need to demand more from the justice system, from the government and from ourselves. We can make this country a great place for each single brazilian citizen and for others as well.
Pot/Kettle Response Response
written by Guest, April 15, 2005
"The ignorance displayed by your post makes it almost not worth responding to, but for those reasonable persons out there who enjoy healthy discussions about real issues I wanted to respond."

Well thank you for enlightening us all. You really are a pompous Yankee, aren't you? What makes your pontification about "responsibility" so informed? Nothing. You're just talking out of your ass.

Like I said before, Brazil IS working on its problems. Just what do you know about Brazilians’ “responsibility” for “their problems” anyway? Why do you insist on maintaining your schoolmarmish, I know better than you do, attitude? Why are you the self-appointed defender of US honor?

Thanks for the lecture on "responsiblity" though, Dr. Phil.
Pot/Kettle Response Response Response
written by Guest, April 18, 2005
In response to:

“Well thank you for enlightening us all. You really are a pompous Yankee, aren't you? What makes your pontification about "responsibility" so informed? Nothing. You're just talking out of your ass.

Like I said before, Brazil IS working on its problems. Just what do you know about Brazilians’ “responsibility” for “their problems” anyway? Why do you insist on maintaining your schoolmarmish, I know better than you do, attitude? Why are you the self-appointed defender of US honor?

Thanks for the lecture on "responsibility" though, Dr. Phil.”

I’m not sure how to take the Dr. Phil comment, but your post deserves a response and I have some questions for you. Again, why can’t we have a reasonable discussion about facts? What makes you think I’m defending US honor (as if it were defensible or needed me to defend it)? Why when I make a statement that both Americans and Brazilians need to stop whining and do something about their problems I’m “schoolmarmish” and talking out of my sphincter? To see the Brazilian side of this issue just read the comments on this article or read the international news. For the US side, again, read the news because it’s full of ignorant Americans blaming everyone but themselves for their problems and trying to cash in on someone else’s wealth because they think they are some how entitled to it. What exactly IS Brazil doing about its problems and what does it have to do with Michael Keep’s simplistic article?

And finally, why do you keep calling me a Yankee? People have been killed for saying less than that where I live.
Reb
written by Guest, April 19, 2005
"And finally, why do you keep calling me a Yankee? People have been killed for saying less than that where I live." Okay, then, I guess you're a southerner. Fine. Then you're a Reb?

What do you know about "responsibility" and "whining"? All you do is repeat this claim that everyone is "whining" and that everyone needs to "own their problems." These are platitutes. Also, when you made your "pot/kettle" pronouncement, you made incorrect assumptions yourself about who was writing. You claimed to know the minds of Paulistas. You seem to think the problem boils down to people "whining." Why? Because you're a know-it-all, that's why. That's why I keep refering to you talking out of your ass and being schoolmarmish.
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written by Guest, April 19, 2005
"The ignorance displayed by your post makes it almost not worth responding to, but for those reasonable persons out there who enjoy healthy discussions about real issues I wanted to respond. Why is it when someone points out that Brazil is not paradise on earth they become a smug, Yankee peddler of BS?"

Nice. Don't fret about the others, constructive criticism is not something that they take well too. I'm referring to the posters, not Brazilians in general, although an argument can be made there as well.

It does become amusing and frustrating at the same time when anyone with anything at all to add about Brazil is immediately labeled YANKEE (especially for those of us from the other side of the pond), just for opening up our mouths and offering an opinion. Informed or not. The discussion then quickly nose-dives into another "oh ya, America kills babies" diatribe. These types of avoidance measures only highlight the level of education you're dealing with here. If only they could stick to an argument without resorting to name calling, diversion tactics and silly nationalistic hyperbole this forum could actually be something worthwhile to spelunk.

"What do you know about "responsibility" and "whining"? All you do is repeat this claim that everyone is "whining" and that everyone needs to "own their problems.""

AREN'T YOU WHINNING HERE TOO? SHEESH. This bloke needs to grow up.
SHEESH…GOLLY, THANKS!
written by Guest, April 19, 2005
a. I'm not nationalistic (see c. below). In fact, I despise nationalism, which is why I despise many of the idiotic comments of North Americans that I read in the reader comments. I don't really care where you're from, as long as you are respectful and show some humility, as opposed to the know-it-all North Americans…and Brits I see, too. When you aren’t, don’t be surprised when people are less than appreciative of your “constructive criticism” and tell you that you’re full of bulls**t.

b. Uttering pop-psychology platitudes like “own your problems” is not "constructive criticism." Rather, it's just popping-off. It’s not constructive; it’s condescending (like telling someone to “grow up”). I’d love to hear that guy go tell Lula and the Brazilian Congress, “You people need to stop whining and ‘own your problems.’” Wow, thanks! Now we can see clearly what needs to be done. Had we only been reading the “constructive criticism” on the Brazzil.com reader comments, we’d be a frigging heaven on earth already.

c. I agree that people should not respond with the "America sucks too" answer, albeit true. On the other hand, Americans just don't seem to understand this truth. They are, in fact, smug, etc. and all to willing to dispense their "wisdom." That is the basis of the response that you get from people (even non-Brazilians, such as myself) when you offer "constructive criticism" that is actually vapid pontificating about nothing you really understand. It’s that inability to understand where the response comes from that really makes you a sad sack. You demonstrate your lack of understanding by calling people whiners. And if you are not an American, but your "constructive criticism" elicits such a response, maybe it's because you're acting just like a smug, know-it-all nationalistic Yankee fool who thinks the problem with the rest of the world is that they’re not just like us.

d. I'm just calling it as I see it. But, you’ve established that when you fools hear something you don’t like, it’s easier to call it “whinning” [sic] than to admit that you are full of bulls**t and just shut the f**k up. So, basically, what I’m trying to convey to you is that you should such the f**k up. Call it “whinning” if that allows you to continue to feel superior and assess the “level of education” on the forum (I’m sure you’re a real intellectual power)…Oh, the “amusing and frustrating” ignorant Brazilians. Why DO they react so? Yeah, you've convinced me you're not smug. Golly, thanks for showing me how I need to grow up. But, mostly, I just wish you would shut the f**k up if you don’t have anything intelligent to say.
Hey yankee reb..have you been to brasil
written by Guest, April 19, 2005
hey coffee boy ....have you been to the
written by Guest, April 19, 2005
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written by Guest, April 19, 2005
What a prosaic rant of utterly meaningless gibberish.

For someone who claims a little humility is in order, you sure set out a fine example. Here you are getting all bend out of shape screaming for intelligent discourse, then immediately resort to doing everything that you claim to despise. Bravo!

There are in fact some very decent posters here, who do offer insights and experiences (Americans, Brazilians et.al), however it is jerk offs like you - when confronted with a view or opinion that doesn't serve to feed your own image of the world - that are the first to pop a synapse, bloviate irrationally and hypocritically and end up firing off cheap shots. For proof, reread your post.

I think the poster before you is quite correct in his assessment; a little growth in your life couldn't hurt.

So given that you have just as little to add as everyone else, spare us your unique brand
ghetto "platitudes" and take your own advice to heart and "shut the f**k up".
SHEESH…GOLLY, THANKS! Response
written by Guest, April 20, 2005
Your post is so full of everything that you claim is wrong with all of the allegedly smug Yankees you are constantly trying to shut up. You claim that their comments are not constructive and just “popping-off”. What exactly are your own comments? Your knee jerk and profane reactions to anyone who doesn’t support your party line (which as far as I can tell is simply “America sucks”) indicates that you are not humble but rather a loud mouth know it all who can't stand to hear opinions that don't support his own. Comments like “I agree that people should not respond with the ‘America sucks too’ answer, albeit true” are not at all condescending and really help convince everyone that you are not indulging in “vapid pontificating” yourself.

Also, I love the way so many of the posters on this board assume the nationality or identity of another poster and then use that as a weapon in their so called arguments. "Reb" "Yankee", what a bunch of bigots.
Whaaaa
written by Guest, April 21, 2005
I smell a fraud. Your friend from “the other side of the pond…pip-pip” is made up, right? You really are a Yankee aren't you? That's why you were stung with the "albeit true" comment. Interesting, because you claimed to "understand" that things are not perfect in the US, but "let's all be 'adults' and 'own your own problems' etc." Yet, you scream like a stuck pig when someone suggests just that point.

No, my comments are not just popping off. They go directly to an issue, which is the all too common jackass Yankee know-it-all who thinks he has the answers for Brazil's problems, e.g., Brazil needs to "own its problems and stop blaming others." They also tend to the Invisible Hand, which I suspect is stroking them as they type.

Let me try to break this down and see if you can understand. Some wrote condescending "don't blame the US," "responsibility" and "own your problems" blah-blah. I responded by: 1) explaining that the origins of the nationalistic back and forth blah-blah chatter is mostly a defensive reaction triggered by the all to common jackass proclamations for on high from the omniscient and omnipotent North and 2) that the lecture on “responsibility, etc.,” clearly tinged with the protestant, Northern “pull yourselves up by your own bootstraps” “God helps those who help themselves” attitude, was really schoolmarmish and vapid, demonstrating an inability to sympathize or even understand point 1) above. The schoolmarm responded by more lectures about “ghetto” language and such and further demonstrated his prissiness and inability to understand point 1) above, in spite of his pop psychology training. Now the tactic is to suggest that criticism of these traits is whining and bigoted.

Bigots? You keep making assumptions about the writer that are pathetically funny. Poor, ever-suffering and oppressed North Americans. How many times have we read this from a North American? Playing the victim. Okay, fine, I'll come down to your level. Whaaa! Mommy, he called me a name, whaaaa. Oh, stop whining, you big baby. There, how does that feel.

Oh, and if you can’t handle adult language, practice what you preach and grow up.
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written by Guest, April 21, 2005
Nice try, but you are in fact dealing with more than one person. I think you’re just too arrogant and ignorant to come to terms that you’re alone in your corner and there is more than one who believes you to be the fool. Pip pip back at ya gov. If it is easier for you to lump everyone together, create one person in your mind, and make that one person a YANKEE. Be my guest.

Ya know, people usually gripe about the whining south of the equator, not because it is an easy an ignorant way out of a debate, but because they’re just sick and tired of hearing the same old scratched LP, that all these country’s problems were created because of satanic imperialist forces to the north. Just like you’re sick of the pop psych. platitudes, I’ve personally grown weary of the boorish attitude of individuals who refuse to discuss anything logically and immediately huff and puff off to the warpath screaming obscenities with the delusional self-belief that they have their feet firmly planted on the moral high ground. Go back a read the thread, there were some great posts, people providing facts, and using words like “accountability” followed by paragraphs of explanations. Fools like you don’t see this. You seek out buzzwords and information to fuel your own rage.

Not only are you digging yourself in further proving you’re a hypocritical fool, but that last posts proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you’re a childish idiot too. You actually equate foul language with adult language? That says a lot.


Now move along you're boring everyone.
Whaaaa Response
written by Guest, April 21, 2005
The only one here to tell anyone to grow up is you (it certainly isn’t in any of my posts, but who would know since we all post anonymously). All I ever said was that no one, American, Brazilian, et al., has clean hands. My initial Pot/Kettle comment was in response to the abundance of posts, which go something like “Americans are a bunch of arrogant Yankees and by the way they suck” or “Brazilians are a bunch of ignorant and drunk party animals who kill innocent children”. All you have to do is go back and read some of the posts to see it for yourself. You then entered the conversation with your now standard knee jerk anyone who doesn’t agree with me must be a smug, arrogant Yankee. Smug and arrogant is an accurate self-description, whether you’re a Yankee or not I don’t know and don’t care (you seem to be the only one who cares about other's citizenship). For you to accuse me of making assumptions about you, that’s very rich. Go back and read your own posts, starting with the first one, and then decide who makes assumptions about others. Your arrogance and inability to debate a point without using incredibly childish language and logic and then claiming it’s “adult language” is getting very old. Your intolerance of any opinion other than your own is the very definition of a bigot.
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written by Guest, April 21, 2005
"Your intolerance of any opinion other than your own is the very definition of a bigot."

wwwwwhack!!!!! Point, set, match.
funny thing
written by Guest, April 21, 2005
it's really hilareous that other topics on this site get
very few comments unless there is a tiny bit connection
with the US and then hunting season begins.

Everybody goes into a typing frenzy to complain and point fingers at the US.
No matter what you say, all these Brazilians writting all the garbage here only wish Brazil were like the US and they had something to be proud of.
In the end of the day, it doenst matter that you have a beach with all the coconuts you want, the majority of
the population goes home without a meal. Maybe they
dont even own a computer to expose the suffering here.
The misguided citizens of Brazil here do not represent their people. That's just my opinion.

I am a Brazilian-born American who is very proud of
America and will fight to the end to defend her.
And also a richer person with a very sweet past
lived in Brazil.

Please, do not embarass Brazil even more by venting
your frustation on the US and not on your goverment...
Start a revolution if not happy... do something productive

now, let me check other topics where I know it's way
more pleasant that this one...
Whaaaa
written by Guest, April 22, 2005
I was right, you are a Yankee. Please just admit it a*****e. And, no, I don't believe there's a chap on the other side of the pond. It's quite obvious you're a fraud. Also, just admit that you are a prissy schoolmarm and that your pop psychology "own your problem" comment was just bulls**t. By the way, the term "adult language" for corse language is a time-honored expression, but you're too much of a priss to admit that, hanging deparately on to your comical puritanical finger-wagging over it…so just forget it. You've proven yourself to be a complete jackass who can't reason his way out of a paper bag, so I'm done wasting my time responding to you. I might as well talk to a wall as to a pinhead who's retorts come down to calling people who disagree with them bigots (no one disagreed with the "responsibilty" notion, but rather that it was an empty-headed, schoolmarmish, and typically condescending comment from…wait for it… a Yankee a*****e) and crying about bad words (look back at your comments). I'm sure you'll come back with something cutting, like, No you are! so I'll just leave this area to you now to defend your idiotic "own your problems" post further to an empty room.
Check and MATE
written by Guest, April 22, 2005
Oooooh, "I might as well talk to a wall as to a pinhead who's retorts come down to calling people who disagree with them bigots (no one disagreed with the "responsibilty" notion, but rather that it was an empty-headed, schoolmarmish, and typically condescending comment from…wait for it… a Yankee a*****e) and crying about bad words (look back at your comments)."

Check and MATE!!!!!!!! You hit that one out of the park! Touchdown! KO! Spike! Way to go! Goooooooooooooooooooooollllllllllllllll!
Totally
written by Guest, April 22, 2005
No kidding. "Own your own problems"? What bulls**t. See H. G. Frankfurt, Ph.D, On Bulls**t, Princeton Univ. Press (2005).
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written by Guest, April 22, 2005
write schoolmarmish just one more time...please.. Is this the new word of the week?
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written by Guest, April 22, 2005
The typical Brasilian Reaction. Invent a conspiracy, cry and whine that there is no justice, and then stomp off like a crying child being sent to bed without diner. You`ve so raised the bar in this game, and for your info, you are dealing with more than one person. The fact you believe otherwise is just too amusing for words. f**king tosser.
Illegal
written by Guest, April 22, 2005
“Border Patrol agents arrest a baffling number of Brazilian illegal immigrant across the valley.”

Brazilian must be a really great place to live.
This is True
written by Guest, April 24, 2005
it's really hilareous that other topics on this site get
very few comments unless there is a tiny bit connection
with the US and then hunting season begins.

Everybody goes into a typing frenzy to complain and point fingers at the US.
No matter what you say, all these Brazilians writting all the garbage here only wish Brazil were like the US and they had something to be proud of.
In the end of the day, it doenst matter that you have a beach with all the coconuts you want, the majority of
the population goes home without a meal. Maybe they
dont even own a computer to expose the suffering here.
The misguided citizens of Brazil here do not represent their people. That's just my opinion.

I am a Brazilian-born American who is very proud of
America and will fight to the end to defend her.
And also a richer person with a very sweet past
lived in Brazil.

Please, do not embarass Brazil even more by venting
your frustation on the US and not on your goverment...
Start a revolution if not happy... do something productive

now, let me check other topics where I know it's way
more pleasant that this one...
Typical
written by Guest, April 26, 2005
"Typical Brazilian reaction" Nice observation, except that the author identified himself as a non-Brazilian, you typical moron.
Schoolmarmish
written by Guest, April 26, 2005
To the Schoolmarm: I think the use of the word "schoolmarmish" was a rather eloquent way of of his to point out that you are a weenie. Love it!
order and progers?
written by Guest, April 27, 2005
dont argue with an idiot. he'll only take you down to his level then beat you with experance.
Brazilians....
written by Guest, September 20, 2005
Most of your comments and the way you view the U.S. comes from media clips you are lucky enough to receive in your piece of s**t country. I, too, have access to clips from all around the world, on a daily basis. I see things happening in our country, as well as all others. BUT...the kind of s**t I see in your country happens quite often, at least what is able to get out of the country. Face up, dumbasses....you are a third world country that doesn't have a f**king clue. The easiest thing to do is blame Bush for all your problems and everyone else''s....course you do that while sitting on your f**king asses. By the way, video clips are only a small percentage of the truth. Can't imagine what else I'm missing, but I gotta get to work. Any idea what THAT feels like? f**k off bitches!

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