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Brazil: High-Class Crime Uses Charm as Master Key PDF Print E-mail
2005 - April 2005
Written by Alberto Dines   
Sunday, 10 April 2005 23:00

Brazilian banker Edemar Cid FerreiraEveryone knew that Brazil's Banco Santos was about to go broke, including the media. But the media couldn't alert either the clients with checking accounts or the bank's mutual fund investors as to the danger in which their deposits and investments were.

Had the media done so, they would have been implicated as accountable for the race to the tellers.

In 1995, when the government took control of Banco Econômico, then Senate President Antonio Carlos Magalhães, along with a rotund troop of acolytes, galloped through the Praça dos Três Poderes (Three Powers Square) to defend the financial institution - of which, by the way, he was a shareholder.

In that ridiculous episode, the media reproduced, without any hesitation or discretion, in print letters, live and in color, the warning from ACM (Antonio Carlos Magalhães): "The banks that are going broke are Bamerindus, and then Nacional!"

Indeed they did fall apart, and in that order. ACM was then the big boss; he could paint the town red around the Nation. No one would dare sue him.

Nine years later, ACM's successor as Senate President, José Sarney, friend and compadre of Banco Santos' owner, Edemar Cid Ferreira, was warned about the bank's imminent collapse.

Shrewder than his Baiano (from the state of Bahia) counterpart, Sarney didn't blow the whistle and - under the radar - withdrew his precious funds four hours prior to the Central Bank's intervention.

Having secured his, the Senator overlooked the infraction he'd committed (profiting from insider information), but was cautious not to incur into another: no heads-up signal could be given, or risk being accused of setting off the breakdown in the financial system.

Sarney writes for two newspapers, owns a media conglomerate in his home state of Maranhão, and enjoys open doors to any large national news organization. He forgot about communication and turned incommunicado.

He only opened his mouth to explain - after caught red-handed - that, "as the whole world new, he too had heard of the rumors" involving his friend's bank. "The whole world knew" means his world, not that of the bank's clients.

The Press and Edemar

This is not the only confluence between the closing down of Banco Santos and the media. There are others more telling. Regarding banker Edemar Cid Ferreira's résumé, tons of papers were spent in the past days.

Suddenly, poor newspaper and magazine readers found out all that the press knew about this nabob, his maneuvers, and simultaneously, learned of the information that had been kept under tap.

The media exposed some previous "minor troubles", but put aside the shabby deals. Organized crime uses crowbars, master keys, or dynamite to crack safes open; disorganized crime is refined: it uses charm and cuddle.

One of the most precise profiles of banker Ferreira was printed in a forgotten small little corner of the Economy section of the newspaper Folha de S. Paulo, (page B-4).

In 59 lines, the article unveiled the intersecting romance novels between the couples Roseana Sarney-Jorge Murad and Edemar-Márcia Cid Ferreira and, appropriately so, quoted two extraordinary self-revelations by the banker himself:

** "I am the reincarnation of Chatô (the mega-media entrepreneur of the mid-20th century)".

** "Culture paves the way. We follow behind doing business."

There you have it, the full-body self-portrait of the most ostensive advocate of Brazilian arts and culture at the dawn of the new century; commissioner of the Rediscovery Exhibit, our man in Beijing, competent in all aspects.

The great exhibition at the Ibirapuera Park in São Paulo was the climax of the 500th anniversary celebrations of the Discovery of Brazil, and the accomplishment of transforming that small bank into the depository of very important institutions and individuals is proof of his talents.

The list of Ferreira's skills includes his ability - not to be downplayed - to be surrounded by media barons and baronesses. Example: in the "Brazil 500 years Visual Arts Association" (of which he served not only as Chairman of the Board but also as CEO), there was the unprecedented Press Council, comprised by people at the helm of the eight most powerful or visible media conglomerates in the nation.

Makes sense: an exhibit of this magnitude and quality, destined to break attendance records, forcefully had to rely on the indispensable mediatic support.

The enormous achievement, masterpiece in psychological engineering, was to overcome idiosyncrasies, convincing big moguls to take part in the same committee, sitting at the same table, sharing decisions, and allowing their public introduction to be presented in alphabetical order (the honors were given to the representative of the smaller organization).

Since the activities of the Association that managed the exhibit came to an end, indications are that the relationships haven't die down. Apparently, an understanding between Edemar and the press still persists, despite the minor troubles. Chatô's successor had a very clear notion of his strategy:

"Culture paves the way. We follow behind doing business."

Alberto Dines, the author, is a journalist, founder and researcher at LABJOR - Laboratório de Estudos Avançados em Jornalismo (Laboratory for Advanced Studies in Journalism) at UNICAMP (University of Campinas) and editor of the Observatório da Imprensa. You can reach him by email at obsimp@ig.com.br

Translated from the Portuguese by Eduardo Assumpção de Queiroz. He is a freelance translator, with a degree in Business and almost 20 years of experience working in the fields of economics, communications, social and political sciences, and sports. He lives in São Paulo, Brazil. His email: eaqus@terra.com.br



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Brazil was lost?
written by Guest, April 11, 2005
However, I think that Brazil still lost in Corruption. Nothing works in this Country. Correio (deals with national and international correspondence and delivers) has a miserable service. They steal from the costumers, late deliver and so on. Our diplomatas, which work in Brazilian Embassy and Consulates around the world have a group of people not prepared to deal with the waves of Brazilian living abroad and they really do not care with Brazilina Citizen needs. The Rio Branco Institute should be closed.
Our media, only act on their own interess.
Our police recently murdered 30 people in the state of Rio de Janeiro only to make some revenge against the state. Our army in Haiti makes a circus of soccer to calm down the population in a country broked apart.
The Brazilian Universities only talk about reform already for half a century and nothing is done. At least they are meeting in the regular basis to drink coffee.
Conclusion, Brazil is a very, very corrupt Country. Nothing works. Everything in the Brazilian way.
Brazil was lost?
written by Guest, April 11, 2005
hhmm- I can be quite negative about things in Brazil at times, however, some of your points are just not true or are exaggerated. The mail works fine here, I've never had a problem, and use it for packages quite a bit. Nothing has been stolen, and everything always arrives on time.

What happened in Rio was horrible, but is not a common happenstance. Lots works here in Brazil, if it didn't the country would have imploded a long ago. Yes, corruption exists, as it does in everywhere in the world including the "frst World", but you can't scream it is endemic without giving specific examples.

Brasil has a lot of problems, but to address them one needs to be exact and truthful. Throwing out a wide net of simple accussations does nothing to get to the roots of real problems.Where do we know where to look if the blanket is cast to cover all?

The above poster appears not to be looking for dialogue, but a medium to vent. And sure, we all need to vent at times - but lets vent constructively.
Re: Brazil was lost?
written by Guest, April 11, 2005
Man, where do you live? I may even agree with you when you say that Correios works fine... I've never had any problem besides the fact that all of my credit card bills arrived when expired and I had to pay the fines to them, which led me, after that happened 6 months in a row, to authorize debt in my bank account.

What happened in Rio is not exception man. See the statistics. Nearly half of our policemen are suspect of some crime envolvement. Death squads are originated in police ranks. Who do you think are our grileiros in Pará or Mato Grosso? Many of them are authorities, policimen and judges, who used their power to steal somebody else's land.

And then man, how dare do you say that cops killing 30 people is some exception, some mere disturbance in our wonderland? Man, 30 people were killed by policemen, and it's not exception, for policemen have been killing people in this country for a long time! We have 11% of the murders in the world and you would probably say that they must be addressed exactly and truthfully? C'mon man! Comparing what we have here in Brazil to the first world is nonsense. They sure have problems, but not out of control as we have here.

Finally, I wish you from the deepest of my heart that you be shot in the head by some cop burglarm, that your death be among the 99% of the not solved cases, so that your death can never be exact and truthfully appointed. That's all I want for you.

Correios
written by Guest, April 11, 2005
I sent in the last November some herbs tablets and some tea that I bought in the Chinese market in Canada to my father, who lives in Brazil. When I complained about the delay of the delivery. The correios told me that my packet with all material will return to me. Since, such tablets did not comply with the health law from Brazil. In March my father received the parcel, only to find a small glass opened with 70 talblets instead of 100. I sent to him 6 flasks of herbs tablets. And a box of tea. I complained to Brazilian Correio that told me to complain to Canada post. Canada post told me to complain to Correios. The Correios already blocked my complains long time ago. They learned to use internet for such cases.
Brazil is really sinking. Corruption in all places. My father only laugh about such situation. He says that while the correio and corporation steal us. Some big things happen behind all these. Brazilians are so cheaper.
...
written by Guest, April 11, 2005
The world is not black and white - I`m sorry but the killing of 30 people by rogue police is NOT common happenstance in Brazil, if you can find me another event of this magnitude recently I`ll be happy to eat my words.

Sure there is violence, and I am under NO illusion what so ever that Brazil is perfect. Far from it. What I sticks in my craw is when someone has a bad experience with one thing, and then that becomes irrefutable proof that everything else is just as bad or corrupt. Sorry, the world just doesn`t work that way.

Also, I wouldn`t place much faith in Canada Post, either. You can have problems with the mail around the world. I merely stated that I use the Correio in Brazil quite a lot, weekly as a matter of fact, and have never had a serious problem with packages going missing or being opened.
Does it happen? I`m sure it does.However, of all things things on my list that drives me crazy here (drivers topping that list) mail problems are so insignificant to the point of being nonexistant in my day to day bumbling around that I just don`t see the problem.
The above poster must be blind
written by Guest, April 11, 2005
Really, it's not common happenstance. The police don't use to have a squad to kill 30 people all at once, in a few hours. They usually spend an entire month to do that, and when things are going fine, a weekend...

Well, looks like everyone around me has terrible personal experiences to tell... that may not be an irrefutable proof, but sure does tell me that somethign is going wrong, at least to people around me.
This guy
written by Guest, April 11, 2005
This guy has courage to defend the Correios must be a true pau no cu.
...
written by Guest, April 11, 2005
This guy has courage to defend the Correios must be a true pau no cu.

There's the style of intelligent debate that's been missing here- glad to have you back, how are those opposable thumbs coming along?
...
written by Guest, April 11, 2005
I could not agree more with the second post.
To say that "nothing works in Brazil" is not just an oversimplification, it is plainly wrong, as anyone who ever lived in Brazil knows.
Silly arguments and stupid generalizations belong into elementary school, not here ...
Things work
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
But not very well sometimes…

As a visitor to Brazil, I have been both impressed and frustrated about how things work. I recently sent over R$2000 of merchandise accross the country (I bought insurance, of course) and it arrived unmolested at the destination in less than one week. Not bad.

But when things go wrong and I complain, Brazilians say to me, "Ah, Brazil," which means it's expected that things don't work.

When someone suggests with a strait face that I pay a government employee directly to get something done, my jaw drops in a naïeve American way.

When I read a story like that above, it's agravating. It seems like things only work for the fat cats.

When a guy like Paulo Maluf thinks he can get back into public office, I wonder, "Can he be serious?"

When I read about police killing people at will, I think that Brazilians need to say not "Ah, Brazil," but "Enough!"

But I see these latter examples as throwbacks. I think things are changing in Brazil. Democracy is slow, but ultimately will lead to further improvements as corruption is rooted out and government becomes more responsive to the people and not just the fat cats, which is why fat cats hate democracy.
Very funny
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
To beleive that in America people don't pay to get things done faster is something of this world

Corporation and rich people using politics are able thru lobbying to get benefits above the average person.


In Brasil they take from you and do not care about the law

In America they take from you but first make sure to pass a law saying that is ok to take your hard working money


The way is different but the result for the average guy is the same- .


Do you really beleive that a corporations give millions of dollars for nothing?



About this magazine
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
Did you ever notice that any good news about Brazil is always put in the left coner?

What about mixing the perosnal views of your freelance writers with the good news that you put in the conner left.

what about putting in the front page like the rest of the freelance post writers?
Brazil needs a new attitude, is it possi
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
They must change immediately:
- The University Acess and the University Education
- Land Reforms
- Taxes. Even add a tax on fortune like in the USA
- Salary.How I country can grow if the Salaries is shameful. This way nobody pays taxes. The state does not have money.
-Reform the Army - Why a big army - It is necessary a professional army.
- Prison system. If want re-educate people, not in this system baby.
- Deliver parcels. The Correio now is a fiasco.
- Law families. So much protection to the woman and the kids go to ditch in a divorce.
- Police reforms and a big change in attitude. Cops can not kill inocent when they are mad.
-ENVIROMENT REFORMS, the tiete river inside Sao Paulo is a bad picture.
- Social Reforms. Stop this gay promiscuity. Gays should marry and make families.
- Brazil must be a more conservative society.
- Work Laws. Brazil still using facist work laws made by Getulio Vargas when Brazil was conjoined with Hitler and Mussolin.
- Clarify to the Union that their time is gone. Now is the time of Globalization. No educated work class can not compete in the new market.
- Rio Branco Institute must be closed. Why spent so much money in such institute if they do not defend the interess of the ordinary Brazilian over seas? We do not need waist money with this organization. Once they get people from the dominant class.
Brazil needs a real new attitude. Even the harbours must be more fast and modern to send products over seas. Time to change.
Wary
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
I have travelled all over the world and lived in many other countries and never had any problems elsewhere. However I am very wary of Brazil because I have experienced so many problems at the basic levels.

My wife (Brazilian) often sends items back to her family through the post and things either never arrived or items have been opened and things stolen from the package.

Virtually every item my wife sends she has to get on the phone back to Brazil because some cowboy in the postal service over there is trying to extort money because they see that the item is posted from the UK.

Doing any form of financial transfer or even changing money is always fraught with worry and problems and even using international banks like the HSBC is not free of anxiety.

I have had both my credit and debit card defrauded and only found out about it after I arrived back in the UK. In Rio my wife and I were robbed by a taxi driver and then followed.

My father in law who comes from the North East lost his entire business and everything he owned because he would not support some local political group who were attempting to buy out local business support.

My brother in law was with a friend who had just purchased a new car was stopped by the police who said the car was stolen. They were all locked up for 3 months without trial or representation only to be let out because it was found that the car was actually legitimate.

Brazilians themselves are the nicest people but the Brazilian system politically, judicially and economically is rotten and corrupt and that country will never reach its potential unless Brazilians themselves confront it honestly.







Re: How I country can grow if the Salari
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
What the employee receives is shameful. To pay an employee $R1000 costs the company $2300 after government mandated "contributions".
...
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
High class and borrowed shoes, a little hip talk, tomato juice!!
...
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
High class and borrowed shoes, a little hip talk, tomato juice!!
Very funny
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
Well, it was not my intent to hold the US up as a paragon of virtue. My only comment that made any reference to the US was a self-depricating statement regarding my response to petty corruption in Brazil. Corporations paying political comtributions and lobbyists is a disfunctional and in my opinion an odious part of US politics. I don't believe that the US government is very responsive to its common citizens and is therefore not a prime example of democracy. Nevertheless, I do have faith in democracy and hope that it will improve conditions in Brazil (and the US for that matter, because there are plenty of things in the US for which the people should be saying "Enough!" -- but this isn't a forum about the US, even though you might think so sometimes based on the frequent and obnoxious US-centric comments that appear here). One must admit, Brazil has a long way to go toward improvement in conditions of the common folk.
very funny!
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
It's really all a matter of perspective! "Brazil has a long way to go toward improvement in conditions of the common folk." Oh, well! I had been away from Brazil for the last 9 years and I when I went back, I was as shocked as you are. Big time culture shock! But then, I could compare: did things here got worse or better? In so many ways, it got so much better. The town that I lived in had one university, now they have few others. There were no traffic lights or radar systems installed in the major roads and highways but now there are many. Not only that, drivers were really cautious about not going over the speed limit/and they told me! There was also a sense of this newly found "Enough"attitude that you talk about. Yes, there are still a lot to be done. I was gladly surprised with the positive changes! I saw so many great publications in the newspaper stands! There were not so many when I left! So in a space of 9 years ( it might seem an eternity for you!) small things or big things (depends on how you see it) happened. That's reality!
To fully appreciate the changes in a country, you either have to have lived there long enough or you must educate yourself in the country's matters. Nothing informs me more about the US than to talk/ask many Americans about past and present problems. How long has it been that things are the way they are? How long did it take for them to change? What kind of factors influenced those changes? What kind of policies were in place before real transformations could occur? Ask yourself those questions. That's what I do here in the US. And if you don't find the answers, dig it deeper! Ask a Brazilian who can tell you. (Sophia)
Very funny, indeed!
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
I am sure that Brazil has changed for the better in the last nine years…I'm just as sure that it has a long way to go. That's not an insult, it's a fact. I'm sure of both of these things from my Brazilian friends, my readings, and my visits. And, no, nine years is not an eternity to me. In fact, Brazilians should be very proud of the accomplishments made in such a short time. If you continue to think that I'm badmouthing Brazil, you are really mistaken, Sophia.

As for where I am from, I know things are worse than they were four years ago.
Even funier! But I am not laughing!
written by Guest, April 12, 2005
I know you are not badmouthing Brazil. You are posting your opinions in a very honest and kind manner. Have you learned Portuguese? Being able to speak the language and interact with all kinds of people is also very revealing. Now, I am curious to find out where you are from.
Yes,again. Brazil has a long way to go. Real changes will happen only when basic needs are met, such as, access to health care and education. Food on the table three times a day also helps! In a country where more than 60% of the wealth is controled by only 10% of the people, it is easy to tell where the major problem lies.As they say here, it is not rocket science! Of course, if you have a corrupt police and a corrupt judicial system, the "hell" breaks open!
Complaints don't help! If I don't like the Brazilian media, I create my own newspaper. Brazil has to become a country of action. I don't like this, ok, let's change! This was a vital lesson I have learned here! This type of mindset takes long time to take root but I am optimistic: a Brazilian Pollyanna living in the States. (sophia)
Re: Have you learned Portuguese?
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
I have..... just to hear my President and ideology slandered in the Brazilians press and government! That would be GW Bush and conservatives.
Why do you presume that your mail was op
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
I had my e-mail lost,open and misplace many time in America.


Did you ever hear about people in America getting they mail open and if a check is inside they just change the value and tried to cash .


I never had a problem with mail inside of Brazil.


Maybe you just one of those people that nothing goes wrong in America.

Funny
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
You maybe right but does make much sense of a American to come to Brazilian forum and talk about corruption in Brazil.

Like you said before, America has a long way to go when come to corruption.

You sure have a right to have a opnion but does not make much sense to work in someone's garden when your is not so green.

I still not laughing!
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
If you can't explain something, just make it very confusing! Your post does just that! Very anticlimatic! (Sophia)
n the year 2006, in America , the financ
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
the point here is not to talk BAD about america.They point here is to show that the same kind of problem happens in the so call "First world countries"

Sorry to hear about you problems with credicard in Bazil.


just a update

around 5 million people in america get their personal,financial stole

http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/business/2005/04/11bevigilantagain.html



Identity Theft is Fastest Growing Crime
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by Alison Ahmoye

Rockford, Illinois- It's a crime where anyone can become a victim, where your identity is in danger of being stolen, and now, it's on the rise.

"In the year 2006, the financial sector expects to lose $8 billion to this crime," says Rockford Police Sgt. Michael Booker.

The Federal Trade Commission ranked Rockford second in the state, behind Chicago, for the number of identity theft victims in 2004.

Booker warns consumers of identity theft, and how easy it is to gain access to personal information. He points to unsecured websites, stolen mail and wallets, and false e-mails and phone calls as just some ways thieves can get what they're looking for.

"In Rockford, we've seen cases, where they've actually gone into people's trash and through dumpsters to obtain any little bits of information that they can," Booker says.

In the past couple weeks, two Rockford residents reportedly became identity theft victims, with thousands of dollars allegedly taken from their accounts. Booker says people are now more vulnerable than ever before.

"We buy and purchase things very little anymore with cash," he says. "It's normally done by credit cards, debit cards, checks and checking accounts. So as we transition from being cash consumers, we're going to see a further increase in this type of crime."

Identity theft can happen to anyone, especially if they're not careful at places like the ATM machine. Police say once thieves get account numbers they can make credit and debit cards that look and feel just like the real thing.

"They may manufacture the card then, and sometimes put their own name or a name they've assumed on the credit card," Booker says. "So when they've asked for the identification, they can produce it and match it to the card that they're using."

Booker advises consumers to check their credit annually, and keep important information in a safe place.
...
written by Guest, April 13, 2005

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3085277.stm

Identity theft explodes in US
More than seven million people in America have been the victim of identity theft, a report warns.

Research by IT consultancy Gartner Inc indicates identity theft - the use of someone else's personal details for financial gain - leapt 79% over the 12 months to June 2003.

With 3.4% of the US population now having fallen victim to the scam, Gartner warned that more than half the incidents involved not organised gangs or career criminals, but friends, colleagues and even relatives.

"Identity theft is not necessarily a hi-tech crime, and can just as easily damage the credit rep**ations of low-tech adults who don't spend any time on the internet," said Avivah Litan, vice president and research director for Gartner.

Even so, the FBI and consumer groups warned on Monday of a burgeoning scam involving fake e-mails purporting to come from e-commerce websites such as Paypal, part of the eBay online auction operation, and ISPs including EarthLink.


Many credit issuers don't recognize identity theft fraud for what it is... causing a disincentive to fix the problem with the urgency it requires
Avivah Litan
Gartner Inc
The scam tries to fool people into visiting a faked website, which asks for personal details - including credit card information - under the pretence of confirming that records are accurate.

Easy access

Identity theft is becoming a huge problem, both in the US and elsewhere.

Part of the problem, experts say, is that personal information is much more readily available than ever before, making it easy to get - for instance - credit cards and loans in someone else's name.

To some extent people can protect themselves, by being careful about what information they throw away, since searching through rubbish is a long-established technique for garnering the information needed for indentity theft.

But investigators also believe that institutions, particularly banks and government organisations, need to be more careful.

Credit card slips are only now beginning to obscure most of the 16-digit number, for instance, while the sheer volume of direct mail selling credit presents a huge risk, they warn.

"Many banks, credit card issuers, cell phone service providers and other enterprises that extend financial credit to consumers don't recognize most identity theft fraud for what it is," Mr Litan said, estimating the average chance of being caught at one in 700.

"Instead they mistakenly write it off as credit losses, causing a serious disconnect between the magnitude of identity theft that innocent consumers experience and the industry's proper recognition of the crime. This causes a disincentive to fix the problem with the urgency it requires."

And in the US, the fact that most organisations use individuals' nine-digit Social Security Numbers (SSNs) as an identifier, despite the fact that SSNs are often freely available on the internet and sold by many states to database companies, is seen as a key vulnerability.

In the UK,dentity theft in the UK each y
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
dentity theft in the UK each year, costing the British economy over £1.3 billion annually.

http://www.identity-theft.org.uk/
In the UK,dentity theft in the UK each y
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
dentity theft in the UK each year, costing the British economy over £1.3 billion annually.

http://www.identity-theft.org.uk/
Wary. I have some problem
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM TO SEND SOME PRESENT TO MY FAMILY FROM CANADA. THANK YOU FOR SHARE.
I have travelled all over the world and lived in many other countries and never had any problems elsewhere. However I am very wary of Brazil because I have experienced so many problems at the basic levels.

My wife (Brazilian) often sends items back to her family through the post and things either never arrived or items have been opened and things stolen from the package.

Virtually every item my wife sends she has to get on the phone back to Brazil because some cowboy in the postal service over there is trying to extort money because they see that the item is posted from the UK.

Doing any form of financial transfer or even changing money is always fraught with worry and problems and even using international banks like the HSBC is not free of anxiety.

I have had both my credit and debit card defrauded and only found out about it after I arrived back in the UK. In Rio my wife and I were robbed by a taxi driver and then followed.

My father in law who comes from the North East lost his entire business and everything he owned because he would not support some local political group who were attempting to buy out local business support.

My brother in law was with a friend who had just purchased a new car was stopped by the police who said the car was stolen. They were all locked up for 3 months without trial or representation only to be let out because it was found that the car was actually legitimate.

Brazilians themselves are the nicest people but the Brazilian system politically, judicially and economically is rotten and corrupt and that country will never reach its potential unless Brazilians themselves confront it honestly.
Maybe you mail was take in Canada. Have
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Why do you presume that the mail was taking in Brazil?



Beleive or not more cars are stole in Canada -170,000 then in the state of Sao paulo- around 110,000

Canada and the state of sao paulo have almost the same population





What about the corruption in Canada this days??

Canada's kickback scandal grows

Tue Apr 12, 4:00 AM ET


Prime Minister Martin comes under fire amid new revelations of his party's misuse of public funds.

By Susan Bourette, Correspondent of The Christian Science Monitor

TORONTO - Canada's opposition parties are threatening to topple Prime Minister Paul Martin's reigning Liberal minority government, following allegations of kickbacks and money laundering.

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For the past year, Canadians have been incensed by a scandal concerning the misuse of public funds by the Liberal Party to promote national unity with Quebec.

But late last week, anger exploded after the publication of statements by Jean Brault, an advertising executive at the center of the furor, who testified that his firm laundered millions in taxpayer revenues to help bolster Liberal Party coffers between 1997 and 2002.

The furor could present political rivals with their second chance to oust the Liberal Party, which lost its majority in Parliament in June 2004.

For Canadian citizens, however, the scandal cuts much deeper: It's a scar on the collective psyche of a nation that has entrusted its hopes and aspirations to one political party for the greater part of the last century.

A chastened Mr. Martin has implored opposition parties to let his government survive until all of the facts are known in what is clearly one of the biggest controversies in Canadian political history.

But so far, opposition parties have responded by quickly polling the electorate to gauge its openness to calling an election.

The most recent allegations exploded on the front pages across the country over the past weekend.

''Bombshell,'' read the headline in National Post. The Calgary Herald summed it up in six words: "Extortion. Kickbacks. Fraud. Shady Deals. Forgery."

Almost immediately, Conservative Leader Stephen Harper appeared to be testing election themes.

"Corruption is not a Canadian value,'' Mr. Harper told a rally on Ottawa's Parliament Hill, organized to oppose same- sex marriage. He later told supporters he expects to be prime minister following the next election.

A new poll shows the Liberal lead is sinking. An EKOS poll, commissioned by the Toronto Star, showed that 25 percent of Canadians now support the Liberal Party, while 36.2 percent support the Conservatives. It is the lowest showing for the Liberals since they resturned to power under Jean Chretien in 1993 after nine years of unprecedented rule by the Progressive Conservative Party, largely under leader Brian Mulroney.

The Liberal Party is clearly in damage control. "If there has been wrongdoing, those people will be made to pay, and trust us, Paul Martin will see to it that they pay in spades,'' the prime minister's spokesman Scott Reid said over the weekend.

In the meantime, local Conservative Party associations have been told to step up their election preparations. With a 99-member caucus, the Conservatives are the party that decides the fate of the Liberal minority government. The Liberals currently hold 135 seats of 308 in the House of Commons. The Conservatives have 99 seats.

Some political observers say that the sponsorship scandal, as it is known, may prove to be the death knell for Martin's Liberal government - a party which squandered what was expected to be a majority government less than a year ago as corruption charges first surfaced.

Allan Tupper, a political scientist at the University of British Columbia, says it's now getting difficult for the Liberal Party to explain away the charges.

"At first they said it was rogue civil servants, then a few bad apples in the party,'' Professor Tupper says. "Certainly Paul Martin must be distressed by all of these events, especially when he has difficulty pointing to a record of accomplishment."



At the very least, the scandal highlights the prime minister's own weaknesses, adds Stephen Clarkson, a political science professor at the University of Toronto.

''It's pretty impressive that he's made the switch from master politician into a man with such poor political judgment. What it means for him is impending disaster,'' Clarkson predicts.

Minority governments have traditionally lasted an average of 18 months.

The main decision to head to the polls will rest with the Tories, who will be paying particular attention to voter reaction in Ontario. The EKOS poll showed Conservatives leading the Liberals in the province by 40 percent to 33 percent. If the Conservative Party can pick up seats in the hotly contested, voter-rich province, Canadians can expect to be heading to the polls within several weeks. Canadian election campaigns must last for at least 36 days.

A full report in the public inquiry is expected this fall. So far, a judge has heard accounts of envelopes stuffed with cash and left on restaurant tables, as well as embellished contracts that were in turn used to bolster the Liberal Party's Quebec win
Mail Fraud in Canada.
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
No intent to ofend canada or canadian people. Just to show the problems that we don't hear that often about the so call " first World"

Canada a breeding ground for telemarketing fraud, US senate told
Last Updated Fri, 15 Jun 2001 20:18:44 EDT
CBC News

WASHINGTON - Victims of telemarketing fraud in the United States have been pouring out their stories to a committee of the Senate. Almost all of them have described Canada as a haven for that type of fraud.

* RELATED: Top Ten Telemarketing Scams

For two days the U.S. Senate's Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations has heard testimony from victims and experts.

Phone scams siphon more than $35 million every year from Americans, mostly seniors.

Ann Hersham of Maine, testified her family faced economic ruin when her husband started sending money to a fake lottery in Canada. Her husband was also facing mounting medical bills.

Mary Ellen Warlow, a senior official with the justice department, told the committee telemarketing fraud in Canada is big business.

There is some fraud from the U.S. targetting Canadians, but no where near the amount Americans are being bilked.

Experts praised a U.S.-Canada Working Group on Telemarketing Fraud which has caught a few of the criminals. Project Colt was formed in April, 1998, to co-ordinate efforts between the RCMP, the U.S. Customs Service, the FBI and various arms of Quebec police.

Since its inception, it has returned $12 million to victims.

Law enforcement officials on both sides of the border will meet in Ottawa next week to discuss the same issues.

Credicard fraud in the UK
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
No intend to ofend people from the Uk

Just to show to Brazilian people that the same thing happens in the so call " Firt world country"


Identity theft in the UK each year, costing the British economy over £1.3 billion annually.

http://www.identity-theft.org.uk/

Identity theft occurs when your personal information is used by someone else without your knowledge. It may support criminal activity, which could involve fraud, deception, or obtaining benefits and services in your name.

It is estimated that more than 100,000 people are affected by identity theft in the UK each year, costing the British economy over £1.3 billion annually.

This website has been produced by the Home Office Identity Fraud Steering Committee, a collaboration between UK financial bodies, government and the police to combat the threat of identity theft.

This site can help you protect yourself, advises what to do if it happens to you and suggests where to get further help.
Re: Have you learned Portuguese
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
I don't know who was answering for me up there, but yes, Sophia, I have been learining Portuguese, and I'm from the US. I've lived in the US long enough and studied the history and politics to know what's up. I'm learning more and more about Brazil, its language, culture, and politics. I don't claim to have the answers, but I agree it's not rocket science, is it?

Anyway, I think we agree. Thanks for your comments. I appreciate your perspective very much.
The Portuguese
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
The Portuguese are in big number in Canada. Very corrupt people. They always vote to liberals in Canada. Portuguese have a lot connections. They buy old houses and build new ones from scratches, materials that with connections they get for free in the Canadian Construction Industry. Today is a plain wood, tomorrow a brick and so on...
Have you learned Portuguese?
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
That's really neat! I really appreciate people who try to learn a foreign language. I have done almost everything I could do learn English. My very first informal teacher was a 17 months old little girl. Her parents were Ivy League professors but she was the one who gave me just enough input. In a way, she and I were in the same stage of language acquisition: I would say to her "put on your..." , then a long pause on my part, and then she would reply: "socks". Perfect! Later on, I started to listen to "Car Talk" on NPR. Priceless again. It is really just a matter of making the most of your linguistic environment! Sorry, it is a little bit off topic but this is just because I love to talk about language and culture. (Sophia)
Have you learned Portuguese?
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
"Later on, I started to listen to "Car Talk" on NPR." LOL! Eu gostaria ouvir seu sotaque "Bostaleiro."
Have you learned Portuguese?
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Way to go Sophia! The person who answered up here doesn't even know how to write his/her own first language! Jealous,maybe?
What about some therapy?
(An Australian married to a beautiful Brazilian woman!)
Have you learned Portuguese?
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
"The person who answered up here doesn't even know how to write his/her own first language!" What are you on about? I'm sure you haven't a clue.
No kidding
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
What's with the Austrailian guy? I don't think he knows how to read!
...
written by Guest, April 14, 2005
It is impossible to have a serious discussion here ...
Serious discussion!
written by Guest, April 14, 2005
Yes, we can have a serious discussion here...just ignore the negative posts!
Post something worth reading so others will feel compelled to read and write about it in a positive way. Have you seen one of those kids in a playground who can't get other kids to play with him? So what does he do?
He acts out:throw rocks,spin around,spit, and curse at them! He is looking for any type of attention, good or bad, anything is better than no attention at all. So pay no any attention to him! What do you want to discuss about?
Bastards
written by Guest, April 14, 2005
I spent my time writing this article for a serious discussion group and then come such kids, which are not sure whom is the father and start to mess the discussion issue.
Please, go to watch your mothers. It is better to disscuss your family than to mess with my article.
...
written by Guest, April 14, 2005
Just to ignore stupid posts does help that much. Note that these spoiled brats can impersonate others and completely disturb on-going serious discussions (you have some examples of this behavior above).
A possible solution for this problem is to ask each user to register him/herself once (maybe by using a pseudonym) before allowing them to use this forum.
Then, we could associate posts to id's and just ignore (or, even better, exclude) users who disturb the discussions.
Mistake
written by Guest, April 14, 2005
in the above post: " does help" --> ""does not help"
Pseudonym:good idea! Disturbing users:ex
written by Guest, April 14, 2005
Great post. Exclude users who disturb! What can we do to make sure that this happen? Any suggestions? (sophia)
NPR?
written by Guest, April 14, 2005
Is that National PUBIC Radio?
NPR
written by Guest, April 15, 2005
I understand that you don't know what NPR stands for. It's ok, sweety!Now, calm down and go to sleep! Mom is right,here!
Mail problems in the US
written by Guest, April 16, 2005
Why do you presume that they took you mail in Brazil?

Maybe they took your mail right here in North America.

13 Nabbed for Stealing Mail Bound for U.S. Troops

1 hour, 14 minutes ago

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SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - U.S. officials have arrested 13 people accused of pilfering mail en route from San Francisco International airport to U.S. troops based in Okinawa, Japan, prosecutors said on Friday.



According to a criminal complaint, cargo handlers stole about $200,000 worth of merchandise from packages whose contents were revealed in customs declarations.

"The alleged stolen items include laptop computers, digital cameras, DVD players, video game consoles, DVDs, jewelry, clothing, paintball guns, gift cards, Hugo Boss bath products, Victoria's Secret merchandise and collector coins," the U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of California said in a statement.

"According to the complaint, after items were stolen from packages, the suspects would then re-tape the package and send it on to Okinawa where the victims would discover the contents missing upon arrival."

Okinawa is home to a major U.S. military base.
David
written by Guest, April 20, 2005
I am an Englishman married 14 yrs to a Brazilian.

Mail disappears in every country of the world; the difference is other countries seem to want to eradicate the persons responsible at the earliest opportunity, whereas Brazil appears not to care. I have twice had approx £1,400 taken from my credit card over the last 20 years but it is returned immediately by the credit card Company. In the UK the post is so reliable that you never consider that there could be a problem but you must be aware that it MIGHT happen. I can never send items to friends and family in Brazil because they either never arrives or is opened. I send mail to many other countries and this does not happen so it is a bit short sighted to say it may be the UK that has the problem or Canada in a previous Post. My Company here in the UK transfers tens of thousands of GBP to the USA and other countries of the world, I can sent to USA/Europe this morning and it is there in my supplies account their afternoon. Brazil is another matter, three, four perhaps five weeks with so many excuses from Banco Brazil as to why it has not arrived, somebody in Brazil MUST be using my money in a savings account especially set up for themselves to receive interest……….well that’s my theory!!!!
It upsets me very much when I see how much debt interest Brazil pays every year compared to how much it spends internally, Brazil has a future just get the people to be more pragmatic about its problems and their personal responsibilities at home and in work.
Wary
written by Guest, April 20, 2005
David…I agree with everything you have said and in my response above (Wary of Brazil) found exactly the same problems. On the money front my wife and I got tired of trying to send money through to her family who often need money quickly to pay small bills.

We simply opened up a joint British HSBC account and sent one card to my wife’s mother and we have the other card. Now we deposit money in one side and her mother collects within an hour, bypasses the bureaucratic banking nightmare in Brazil.

So that my Mother in Law is not arrested for a card in another name we wrote a letter of permission with photocopies of our passports and authenticated by the English Police.

My mother in law always takes the documentation with her every time she goes to withdraw money so as to avoid any problems if she was found withdrawing on our card.

Only once did my Mother in Law have a problem and she simply went into the HSBC bank locally showed them our paperwork and they fell over themselves trying to help her when they knew she had access to an English account.

The hypocrisy of all this is that my Mother in Law could never open a bank account with the HSBC before because she simply never had enough money or status to open an account with them.

As I mentioned in my other post we experienced many problems trying to send things through the post in Brazil. In one instance my wife sent a Barbie Doll to her young sister as a Birthday present and the Brazilian (authority) tried to “Tax” the item.

It took us 6 weeks of phone calls and emails for them to “release” a present worth exactly £10...the real truth was that somebody there saw a gift from the UK and thought “Rich Foreigners” lets try and extort some cash out of these people. I have lost count the number of times this has happened now.

I can only begin to imagine the type of problems a person has when trying to set up a business, buy a house, deal with the taxman or transfer a large sum of money.












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written by Guest, April 23, 2005
It took us 6 weeks of phone calls and emails for them to “release” a present worth exactly £10...the real truth was that somebody there saw a gift from the UK and thought “Rich Foreigners” lets try and extort some cash out of these people. I have lost count the number of times this has happened now.

The gringo tax...ah, yes I know it well. Although I've never had a package go missing entering Brazil, it has on more than one occassion been held hostage. I too, have had the unpleasant experience of dealing with the officialdom and paper pushing trying to free up something that shouldn't have been held up in the first place. Always, in the end, a little greasing of palms frees everything up much more quickly if you're in a hurry.

But the Gringo tax doesn't apply only to mail. Everything imaginable we´ve had done to our home, or purchased through Professinoais Liberais and or contractors (who set their own prices) the minute they hear my accent when asking for a quote the price goes up.

The misses and I did an experiment once just to prove this. We both called the same service, aquired about the same work, to be done in the same timeframe, and low and behold her quote was about 20% cheaper. My mate believed that even her quote was inflated because she's a women, so he called for a quote - and yes, his was even cheaper.

I have no problems with this (it happens EVERYWHERE in the world, but probably moreso here), I shop around, and if you make sure they know others are bidding on the job, they bend over backwards to get it, so it requires more work, but there are ways around it. Same rule applies to dealing with things in any country.

BUT, the worse story I have ever seen was with a person from Germany working with an international company on a small contract job. He past away because of a heart attack while in Brazil. All the paper work was done so that the body would be released and sent back to Germany for burial - the family had flown in to transport the body. Even with all the papers in place, the hour his family arrived at the airport with the body to fly back home, the only official there, with the power allow the corpse through to the airplane demanded 500Rs CASH. With a funeral just two days away, and under the horrible conditions of having to fly a deceased loved one out of the country, they paid the bribe just to be done with the bulls**t.This is something I tend to think wouldn't happen anywhere else in the "developed world". But who knows.

Historical perspective on things
written by Guest, April 26, 2005
Even though, I agree with the two posts above, I still think readers can benefit from information that puts the present into a historical context. All "developed countries" have had times where corruption was rampant in their history. Obviously, this does not justify or excuse countries like Brazil to continue to treat foreigners or Brazilians with such lack of respect as described in these posts. I understand that some readers want to vent frustration, especially when they have had horrific experiences with “delivered services" by our "serious" executives and officials.
We solve corruption with wealth distribution, education, and accountability. As we know, we have a long way to go! But let's not narrow our views of Brazil. The vast majority of Brazilians don’t even have time to think about these issues. The vast majority of Brazilians don’t speak or write in English, and they don't won a computer, either. These posters who are Brazilians don't represent Brazil. These posts are only a snapshot of a complex country.

"I am so convinced of the advantages of looking at mankind instead of reading about them, and of the bitter effects of staying at home with all the narrow prejudices of an Islander, that I think there should be a law amongst us to set our young men abroad for a term among the few allies our wars have left us."-Lord Byron, poet (1788-1824)

Corrupt Post in Brasil - got doubts?
written by Guest, July 01, 2005
Check the front page of EPOCA
http://revistaepoca.globo.com/

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