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Brazilians Are Too Cordial to Love Moore PDF Print E-mail
2005 - April 2005
Written by Michael Kepp   
Wednesday, 13 April 2005 09:27

American filmmaker Michal MooreGiven all the anti-Bush sentiment in Brazil, I had expected the documentary film "Fahrenheit 9/11" to receive even greater acclaim here than it did in the United States and Europe. After all, it presents a scathing critique of someone whom most Brazilians consider to be an unscrupulous and incompetent leader.

But the press here crucified the film and even in progressive circles it became in fashion to criticize it. Why? After all, it won the top prize at Cannes. In research done by "Editor and Publisher" magazine, 56 of 63 American film critics praised the film.

The Brazilian press reached a far harsher conclusion. In Folha de S. Paulo one columnist compared the film to "the propaganda films of Stalin or Hitler" and another called it "tendentious" and "packed with lies, but historic."

In "Estado de S. Paulo," a columnist called it "Manichean" and a critic called it "manipulative" and "self-declared political pamphlet."

In "O Globo," an opinion-page writer claimed the film was only "lies" and "distortions," and called it "garbage." So did a critic in "Bravo" magazine, who also called Michael Moore "the perfect idiot."

Many of my progressive Brazilian friends also called the film "political propaganda" although some liked it despite this "defect." And a friend who teaches cinema at a Rio de Janeiro university said the film divided his 300 students into two arguing groups, a majority who called the film "manipulative," and a minority that praised it.

Perhaps Americans and Brazilians reacted so differently to the film because of clashing cultural values. In the United States, there exists a long tradition of advocacy journalism, a declared, usually progressive, editorial position found in certain films, books, newspapers and magazines.

This form of journalism - more of a dense essay than an investigation - argues that the hidden, built-in point of view of the mainstream media causes it to ignore, distort or trivialize the news. So advocacy journalism must fill that media vacuum with a lucid, alternative voice.

Moore's film did that in an extremely playful and entertaining way. It also provided something most documentaries don't - new documents. It provided the only footage of Bush sitting paralyzed in front of an elementary school class for seven minutes after the second airplane hit the World Trade Center.

Why? The American mainstream media was too omissive to find it - or to challenge the government's claims that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Yet, it's Moore whom the media here calls tendentious.

The mainstream media in Brazil propagates the myth that news must be objective and impartial. And the media market here is too small to support hardly any advocacy journalism. It's no wonder no Brazilian book, film or magazine article has ever critically examined the life of late Roberto Marinho, who was the all poweful owner of Globo TV network.

Most Brazilian documentaries about the famous - like recent ones about Pelé, Nelson Freire and Paulinho de Viola - just fawn over them. Their distortions don't offend.

"Fahrenheit 9/11" is also part of another tradition, alien to Brazil, the aggressive "gottcha" interview style pioneered by TV news programs like "60 Minutes" since the late 1960s.

Because Moore is the satiric, on-camera provocateur who wages personal attacks against the powerful, his provocative manner makes Brazilians - used to off-camera, "cordial men" like documentary filmmaker João Moreira Salles - uncomfortable.

The Brazilian press preferred "Bowling for Columbine" to "Fahrenheit 9/11," perhaps because its far more radical theories weren't accompanied by personal attacks.

Except for one scene in which Moore goes to Charlton Heston's home to debate the politics of a group he heads that advocates unrestricted gun sales in the United States. Critics here castigated Moore for picking an aging, easy target in his own home - not the mark of a "cordial man."

In short, many Brazilians criticized "Fahrenheit 9/11" because its provocative, advocacy attitude clashed with their cultural traditions. That's why most Brazilians trash Hollywood musicals or films which use baseball as a metaphoric backdrop.

They lack the cultural vocabulary needed to appreciate such films, maintaining their thermometers in low Centigrade degrees in regards to "Fahrenheit."

This article was originally published by "Folha de S. Paulo."

Michael Kepp is an American journalist who has lived in Brazil for the last 21 years and who has written for Time, Newsweek and many other U.S. publications.  He is the author of the book of crônicas "Sonhando com Sotaque - Confissões e Desabafos de um Gringo Brasileiro." For more information on the author and book consult www.michaelkepp.com.br.



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That is why we need to distribute the we
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
"The mainstream media in Brazil propagates the myth that news must be objective and impartial. And the media market here is too small to support hardly any advocacy journalism." Here, in the US, if someone gets lost in the woods for 3 days, he/she can write and publish a book about survival.Whether it is good writing or not, it doens't matter. In Brazil, we have to be part of the club to even consider publication of any kind. First, comes first! Food, education, and safety! We are still struggling to get some of the basics.We need many of "Folha de Sao Paulo" throughout Brazil. We need to have advocacy journalism in every little town.But where is the money? It is all concentrated in the southeast of Brazil. Right on the head,Michael!
False advertizing
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
The profession of Journalism is designed to INFORM not manipulate.

Leftist "advocacy journalism" charlatans use slogans like "All the news that's fit to print" and make no disclosure that they are only presenting one side. In a word, that's deception! The right does. Limbaugh and Hannity nake no secret that you will hear things from the conservative point of view on their broadcasts.

Re: {It provided the only footage of Bush sitting paralyzed in front of an elementary school class for seven minutes after the second airplane hit the World Trade Center.

Why? The American mainstream media was too omissive to find it }

NO! Because there is a conservative media in the USA that exposes outright lies and distortions. The leftist media knew they would be exposed if they made that blatent of a misrepresentation. A different view of that video shows George Bush making a discreet acknowledgement of the news. GW Bush explained that he avoided showing emotion so not to traumatize the children! You don't seem worried about C-"BS" using fake documents to smear President Bush.

Advocacy journalism is losing in the USA because few people want to waste their valuable time being lied to. Look at their market share. Fox News is the #1 cable news network in the USA. 20 million listeners hear Rush Limbaugh, Americas "truth detector". 10 million listen to Sean Hannity. Millions more visit www.drudgereport.com . Your and Michael Moron's lies are getting more difficult to peddle.
MORE TRUTH!!!
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Coulter
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
An lier and a whore.
Brazilian press
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
The Brazilian press doesn't like Michael Moore. BIG SURPRISE! Name a liberal they do like.
EVEN MORE TRUTH!
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Coulter
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
http://slannder.homestead.com/
http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh072302.shtml
http://www.anncoulter.blogspot.com/
http://www.poppolitics.com/articles/2002-08-20-slander.shtml
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20020923&s=alterman
http://www.lies.com/wp/2003/10/25/ann-coulter-vs-al-franken/
http://www.suburbanblight.net/archives/001614.html
http://www.moveleft.com/ moveleft_essay_2005_02_27_lust_ann_coulter_makes_racist
_remark_about_reporter_helen_thomas.asp
Sorry Ann
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
"We didn't mean to call Ann Coulter a whore. The statement was not intended to imply that she sold her sexual favors for money, although we have no evidence either way on this. We meant she was a whore to an ideology so conservative it would disgust Heinrich Himmler, and she will say and do anything this ideology demands of her. As journalists we respect Ms. Coulter's right to express her own opinions, as dangerous, obsessive and delusional as they may be. So on the petard of our apology we hoist Ms. Ann Coulter.
    "Sorry babe.
    "And incidentally we do not have any NAKED X-RATED PHOTOS OF ANN COULTER. We're sorry about that too. Search engines, please do not pick up our NAKED X-RATED PHOTOS OF ANN COULTER statement, as it would be deceptive, leading people to believe that we have NAKED X-RATED PHOTOS OF ANN COULTER when we have no such thing."
- Mark McGuffin: editor of The Untrue News
Re: An lier
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Re: Coulter "An lier"

In spite of not being able to even spell four-letter words, at least you can copy and paste!

It looks like you are just intimidated by an educated woman with a Law School degree that thinks for herself!
Truth
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Facts in Farenheit 9/11:
http://www.michaelmoore.com/books-films/f911reader/index.php?id=16
Coulter
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Okay, I'll be more careful in my typing, aware that I'm dealing with a pinhead who dwells upon typos made on message boards:

Ann Coulter is a liar and a whore.

Do you understand that now? All the spelling and punctuation in place, you brainless a*****e? Now do us a favor: Print this out, roll it up into a tight ball, and stick it up your ass while you jerk off to Ann Coulter, fool!
His own site!
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Really objective source there!

The REAL truth about Michael Moron

http://www.liesofmichaelmoore.com/
Who cares about it now?
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
I am not sure that i agree that MM's Fahrenheit 9/11 would have gained as much comment as his previous contribution anyway. His second contribution contains far too much sarcasm for the non fluent speaking inhabitants of Brasil to appreciate (let alone fluent speaking Americans). Furthermore and more pertinent I would have thought the views of the world -that Bush is somewhere between a dangerous lunatic and a cowboy, had been around too long for this film to change any pre-conceived views anyway.
MORE REAL TRUTH
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
http://moorewatch.com/index.php
http://www.moorelies.com

Here is a list of 59 deceits in Fahrenheit 9/11

http://www.davekopel.org/terror/59Deceits.pdf
Silly
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Moores little fahrenheit documentary is silly. Unfortunetly the Micheal Kepp defends the notion that brazilians don´t like confrontation. I disagree but for arguments sake lets take that to be true. Could it not also be true that due to the confrontation loving people on both sides of the arena there is a lack of objectivity when viewing a documentary like micheal moores? I think a lot of us in brazil could see what many americans failed to see about fahrenheit 9/11, That it intends to mislead the viewer and uses the confrontational strategy to stir up the viewers emotions in the hope that this will decrease his possibility of analitically analizing the documentary. It seemed to have worked quite well in the united states.
I think that comparing the investigative news show "60 minutes" to fahrenheit 9/11 is ludicrous. 60 minutes investigates the story by inviting both sides to give their assesment and then scrutinizes both of these sides . To compare this method to micheal moores method when making 9/11 is just plain dishonest, exactly like moores documentary itself.
P.S.
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
I'll be sure to have my secretary proofread my most important message board insults from now on so punctilious dumbs**ts like you are happy.

By the way: "It looks like you are just intimidated by an educated woman with a Law School degree that thinks for herself!" Love that grammar. Ever hear the expression about people who live in glass houses? And spare us your inane pseudo-psychoanalysis, or was it a lame attempt at humor? Dumbass!
Re: Do you understand that now?
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
I understand that you aren't too bright and are intimidated by an educated woman that thinks for herself!
Objective source
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Yes, it is, since it sites backup for the truths of the movie. And what do you site? A lot of right wing whores. I prefer the citation of Moore's facts to the shrill lies of Bush's supporters.
Disgusted
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Intimidated? LOL! Disgusted by her is more accurate. She's a pathological liar. The fact that you site her in support of anything shows that you are indeed a complete idiot.
Moore\'s Backup
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
If you spend the time to read the meticulous line-by-line factual backup for the movie on Mr. Moore’s site (http://www.michaelmoore.com/bo....php?id=16) you will see that it is far superior to anything offered in criticism of the film. EVERY CLAIM IN THE MOVIE IS BACKED UP BY A CITATION. The film is not objective and was neither intended nor presented as such. But it is factual…Sorry Bushies.
Coulter\'s brain
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Thinks for herself? Then she thinks with and talks out of her ass!
Silly
written by Guest, April 13, 2005
Winner Best Film 2004 Cannes Film Festival. Silly.
Re: P.S.
written by Guest, April 14, 2005
Did your hand get tired from running a key down the side of cars with Bush/Cheney stickers? Your vulgar language shows you have no sense of decency!
I am Brasileiro...
written by Guest, April 14, 2005
Michael Moore is a "class act" with lots of balls...in my opinion. Frankly, I don't give a s**t what the Brasilian or Neocons have to say.

Bush Sucks!
P.P.S.
written by Guest, April 14, 2005
You know, that's very interesting. Liberals generally do not engage in such acts of vandalism and violence against political speech. Every such act of which I have been aware where a car is "keyed" or signs ripped down or people threatened because of their political views is the act of a Bush/Cheney supporter. And have you noticed that it's right wingers who make death threats, like those made against Mr. Newdow who had the temerity to challenged the phrase "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance or those made against Terri Schaivo's husband, etc.? So, no, I do not engage in such activities as do people on the Right, because I believe in free speech.

As for vulgar language, I do use it when appropriate, which leaves me with this thought: f**k you!
Sorry, i did not see the movie
written by Guest, April 14, 2005
Look, I live in Canada. For me to see a movie I need to apply for a loan. Since, I have already more than $70 K of student loan and no job. I can not afford to see the movie and say something more positive about such situation. However, as brasilian. It is very hard to us to understand american jokes and the america culture in general. Please, understand our mediocre culture.
Grammar
written by Guest, April 14, 2005
Correcting grammar and spelling is one thing but it does not make another persons point false.
Lets face it. Mr Kepp tried to prove his point by dishonest association. First he tried to establish that braziliana ( yes, a whole people) dislike fahrenheit 9/11 due to it´s "non-cordial" aproach. Then he tried to associate this dislike of a non-cordial aproach to rejection od shows like "60 minutes" in brazil ( 60 minutes is quite popular in cable tv shown in brazil by the way). Truth is 60 minutes has nothing in common with fahrenheit 9/11. Kepp tries to attach the non 60 minute existence in brazilian television to convince the readers that this is the reason we don´t like fahrenheit.
Kepp is full of s**t and takes us all for suckers. Obviously this is a man so in love with his ego that convincing people to agree with him is much more important than being honest in his writing.
Just Entertainment
written by Guest, April 14, 2005
Moore’s film was purely entertainment made for profit and nothing more. And there’s nothing wrong with that but you need to know that before you watch it or comment about it. What Moore’s film lacks in facts it makes up for in outright lies. Maybe Brazilian didn’t like it because they chose not to spend their hard earned reais on a non-entertaining piece of fiction or maybe they don’t like to pay money to be lied to.
The Government Is Corrupt
written by Guest, April 14, 2005
The School system in Brazil is led by a lie that even though you see killing across from the street almost daily that is just the norm. President Bush lies to people, so does most of the political world in Brazil. It happens at the local level. Ie. a candidate for mayor used to buy beer to locals in exchange of votes... C'mom what kind of political strategy is this? Thank Michael Moore for bringing this rat race forward to the people. Not many writer have the balls to bring up such thing. And in Brazil they believe everthing that Rede Globo(monopoly) brings to the media. It's all messed up!
Ann coulter
written by Guest, April 14, 2005
The attacks of Ann Coulter are typical of libs- attack the messenger, not the message.

Can you give some examples of how Ann Coulter is a liar?
Re: Vandalism
written by Guest, April 14, 2005
Re: Liberals generally do not engage in such acts of vandalism and violence against political speech.

The GOPs tires slashed in Wisc:
http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/nov04/271676.asp

Ransacked GOP headquarters in OH, FL and eslewhere.

Earth First terrorist acts.

You lefties have NO scruples, you are brainless sub-human debris. You have ZERO concern for anything but yourself, that's why you want to salve your conscience with OTHER PEOPLE'S tax money. You are too selfish to help anyone out of your own pocket. LEFTIST ARE GREEDY GOVERNMENT MONEY grubbers that want something for nothing.
Coulter
written by Guest, April 15, 2005
"Can you give some examples of how Ann Coulter is a liar?" Click on the links posted above.
Generally
written by Guest, April 15, 2005
Apparently you don't know the meaning of the word "generally." Again, prooving you're an idiot.
Own my own business
written by Guest, April 15, 2005
I own my own business and have never received welfare or other direct assistance, however, I do benefit from roads, public parks, public schools, environmental protection, and other social programs championed by the political left. I am a Liberal and proud to be so. Liberals do care about other people. They want to end poverty and institute health care for all, not just the wealthy. Anyone who would say that Liberals care only about themselves does not understand the meaning of the word Liberal. On the other hand, the right seeks to tear down the above social programs that help us all. They want to kill the eight hour work day and 40-hour work week. They want to destroy Social Security. They don't want a health care program that will provide healthcare to everyone. It's because this that the US has a lower life expectancy and higher infant mortality rate than most other developed nations, like England, Germany, France, Canada, etc. People like Ann Coulter and others on the right prefer to lie than deal with the truth. They prefer to slander than to do the work that is necessary to make the world a better place. Very sad…
Coulter
written by Guest, April 15, 2005
Those links above are typical left wing nut-job sites. Hardly credible sources. Even left wing papers such as the NY Times won't print stuff like this.
A lie is a lie
written by Guest, April 15, 2005
Ha-ha! So Coulter is caught in a lie and your defense is that the person proving it is a "typical left wing nut-job." YOU'RE the nut-job! rsrsrs.
Right
written by Guest, April 15, 2005
The poster above is correct. Liberals care about people, not the conservatives. Just listen to his rhetoric! It's MY money! Taxes are a community investment. Everyone contributes to taxes, though the principle that has applied since the creation of democracy is that people pay according to their ability to pay. Wealthy people don't make money in a vacuum. They cannot remove themselves from the society in which they make money. They can and should pay disproportionately more. Unfortunately, the very highest income earners and corporations pay less than small business owners and the middle class because they are getting more and more special tax treatment from the government. Ironically, they benefit from all the things that taxes buy for society. Worse examples are corporations like Halliburton who get huge tax breaks and huge payments in government (tax-funded) contracts.
Coulter
written by Guest, April 15, 2005
Facts are facts. Fact: Coulter does not deal in facts! She deals in lies and humbug. It doesn't matter who points this fact out. They cite the sources for crying out loud!
OTHER PEOPLE\'S MONEY
written by Guest, April 15, 2005
Re: Liberals care about people, not the conservatives.
Re: It's MY money!

So the fruit's of other peoples labor is YOUR money. That's just another way of saying "What's mine is mine and what's yours is mine"
Other people\'s money
written by Guest, April 15, 2005
The statement "It's MY money" was a statement of YOUR rhetoric. It demonstrates YOUR selfishness. It demonstrates how YOU don't care about anyone but YOURSELF. You really are hopelss if you can't see that.
Other people\'s money
written by Guest, April 16, 2005
Right wingers really are selfish. And they can't even see it! Sad. And they can't read: "Just listen to his rhetoric! It's MY money!" Clearly a reference to the attitude of the "conservative" dude, but the right winger's too convinced he's right to even understand. Sadder! Then he doesn't bother to read the rest that points out how taxes are a community investment that benfit everyone. Pathetic! You're right, hopeless!
Fitzpatrick
written by Guest, April 16, 2005
How much money did Mr M. Moore make i tell lies about Lula for free, i would be happy to swap places with him
...
written by Guest, April 17, 2005
Fitzpatrick?!? You're still alive??
Haven't seen an article of yours for such a long time.. I was beginning to believe you were dead. How desappointing...
- Moronans Americanus a*****eas -
written by Guest, April 19, 2005
Pronunciation: Moronaaans Ameeeericanuuuuus Asssssholeaaaaaaas

Species: Blood thirsty mutated organisms.

Habitat: Polluted areas of North America, known to thrive under acid rain conditions and in its own excrement!

Food: Mainly peanut butter, hamburgers and french fries. These animals do not usually exercise any manners but instead, use raw hands to devour eatable substances.

Adaptation: Namely rejected by all others beans on the planet. However, they are expanding their territory thru intimidation and killings, during the latter portion of the 20th century and beginning of the 21st century.

Behavior: Cowardly when singled out but vicious when in packs. Not yet known but inferred that metamorphosis occur at the DNA level of these creatures due to prolonged exposure to radioactive materials, set up by their own armies.

Caution: Stay way, these mammals are known to have huge mouths and very narrow minds, with an average IQ comparable to those of chimpanzees. In fact, these animals recently brought to power a specimen that parallels any ape, better known as George Bush.

Short-Coming: Unilingual, lacking any understanding of civilization and order, and driven by pure greed.
what lies?
written by Guest, April 19, 2005
Well, I'm still trying to figure out where are alllllll of these big lies in the Moore film... I saw Fox news and their ilk try and take it apart. They did a good job in showing there were exagerations but this is part of the American advocacy style.

I for one liked the film for what it exposed, real lies and exagerations on the part of the Bush minions. Please give me Moore's white lies over Bush's anytime as the former hasn't had anyone killed lately...

As for the article itself, I think it was good and accurate.

David Arana
written by Guest, April 21, 2005
To: Michael Kepp

Your "word smithing" probably makes you popular in the chic bars. It took you an entire article to get to the point that irritates you and that is that Brazilians don't "have the cultural vocabulary" to like our films and tastes.

You are like so many of us Americans who look down on anyone that does not appreciate our culture, your bulls**t, or is not thoroughly conversant in our Language.

Your writing is actually pretty good, your opinion, however, is childish, Grow up Michael, Brazilians don't much care about Michael Moore and they don't like George Bush. Well, okay you got me I don't either.

Isn't it so American to label anyone who critizes your point of view as lacking "the cultural vocabulary needed to appreciate such films". I am not lacking the cultural vocabulary and while I like musicals, "films which use baseball as a metaphoric backdrop", suck, in the vernacular.

I would be delighted to carry on this one sided dialogue but it is boring. I will be looking out for more of your stuff however, just to see if you continue to suffer from the "ID Ten T" virus.

Have a good life and look into anger therapy.



American Socialist
written by Guest, April 23, 2005
I don't think Michael Kepp's article was saying that Brazilians aren't confrontational, he's simply saying that there is no money in any kind for that kind of advocacy journalism. Too bad. "Hey Brazil, vote for a candidate that isn't a socalist and maybe you'll see it happen."
Moore & Coulter...
written by Guest, April 24, 2005
.... should run for president, on the same ticket. A cunt and a dick, with very big mouths & egos. The fools are those who spend time defending them. They don't need it! If people are so lazy & gulible that they can't get past spoon fed "journalism" they get what they deserve, and the rest of us suffer if they go to the ballot box. Which makes Brazils "manadtory" voting laws a travesty. Think about it, people lapping up govt. approved "polite" media, then being required to vote after being brainwashed by that media. No wonder they can't get anything changed for the better. It's a nifty little version of democroslavery.
Sou Brasileira com muito ORGULHO !!!
written by Guest, April 24, 2005
I think that each one of us should take care of their own business.
Sou Brasileira com muito ORGULHO !!!
written by Guest, April 24, 2005
I was born in Brasil and I AM VERY PROUD OF THAT !
I lived there, I grew up there, and then I came to America.
Brasil is a WONDERFUL place to live, belive me !!!
I have been reading some of the comments up there and I noticed that people don't know that they are talking about.
Brasil has problems just like America does.
You know what... I am not going to spend a lot of time here writing stuff for people that thinks that Brasil is a "terrible" place to live, or that Brasil is a "poor" country.
I know that if I start writing about Brasil's beauty ( Beaches, cities, states, culture, people's personalities, and many more), I woun't stop writing today!
And I know that there are a lot of Brasilians that leaves comments here too and knows what I am talking about!
NAO E` MESMO GENTE !!!
UM GRANDE ABRACO PARA OS BRASILEIROS !!!
Por favor... quem sabe do que estou falando, responde ao meu comentario... o meu nome e Mayara, uma Brasileira MUITO orgulhosa!
For the record...
written by Guest, April 26, 2005
Michael Moore himself referred to his movie as an opinion piece, not a documentary. That's why he had it removed from the documentary category for Oscar consideration.
Oi!
written by Guest, April 29, 2005
Eu conheci uma Mayara, que alem de ser muito orgulhosa, era tambem muito gostosa...Sera voce?
Gaucho
Heated Tempers...
written by Guest, April 30, 2005
Well, there are definitely some heated tempers here. I personally liked the guy who posted the entry just before me who is trying to pick-up Mayara! Good stuff, Gaucho. So, I just want all of you children to know that if you keep spatting with each other, there will be no ice cream tonight after dinner. Now go to your rooms until I tell you you can come out.
De Mayara para \"Gaucho\"
written by Guest, May 01, 2005
Eu acho que voce nao me conhece nao querido, porque eu nao conheco nem um "GAUCHO" !
Tchauzinho !
Sim, Mayara
written by Guest, May 01, 2005
Sei que o Brasil é bonito. Gosto do Brasil e os brasileiros.

Sobre a notícia por cima, gosto do Moore também. Ele falou a verdade do Bush. Ele é bão!

Abraços!
...
written by Guest, May 02, 2005
That movie came out two years ago, who cares about it.... Everybody, go check out the new Lindsey Lohan Flick, it is very entertaining also.
Right
written by Guest, May 02, 2005
Anything more than two weeks old is so passé and unimportant. We have an attention span of less than 2 seconds in the MTV and Playstation world. Who cares about wars? Who cares about Bush? Check out LIndsey Lohan's bigass tities, dude!
Sou Brasileira com muito ORGULHO !!!
written by Guest, May 02, 2005
Dear Mayara, as you are not living here in Brazil, you have no idea of what is going on around here. Just a bunch of corrupt politicians that care about none but themselves. our educational system? sorry! it's been down the drain like it has always been. if I were to mention all the problems we come across, I surely would spend my whole afternoon writing here, as I have more important thinks to do, I leave just my discontentment about the bunch of nuisance you all have been writing about Brazil. Mayara if loved Brazil like you claimed to, you would be living here now.
Mr Lypy
Mr. Lypy
written by Guest, May 03, 2005
You're a total drag, man. A real downer. Defeatist…How do you get through the day?
Amanda
written by Guest, May 08, 2005
Oi gente !!!
Eu estou aqui para falar que o Brasil tem ums lados negativos, mais tem MUITOS lados POSITIVO.
Aliais, oque o Brasil mais tem e o lado positivo.Exemplo... olha para a cultura que o Brasil tem...olha para as pessouas que voce vai ver o lado positivo do Brasil!
Para mim o Brasil e o MELHOR!

Todos os lugares neste mundo tem defeito, e porque que as pessouas pegam o Brasil para refirir nisso?
Nao da para entender... aliais.......... acho que ja sei oque que e ... e a Beleza do Brasil que fais a pessoua a diser isso... eles nao consegue adimitir a REALIDADE!
It is the cultural difference
written by Guest, May 09, 2005
I saw Fahrenheit 9/11 with my fiance last year here in Vitòria and it was very strange to me. Kepp is right in that it made the Brazilians uncomfortable. I was laughing at almost every joke but almost noone else seemed to get anything. It is very difficult for Brasileiros to understand Moore's sarcasm, even my fiance, who speaks fluent english, didn't pick up on most of it. Going into the theater to watch the movie I looked at the crowd standing in line, to me they all looked very hungry to love the movie. It looked like a very anti-bush crowd. But during the movie everyone (but me actually, I thought it was great, entertainment, but great) kind of seemed to be uneasy and not sure if it was serious or jokes. The worst was the scene that Kepp mentioned where Bush sat silent for 7 seconds. The look on his face made my fiance cry, and I think that the warm hearts that Brazilians have made it difficult for them to like the movie. They understood that Bush is human, not that he was an elected leader. After the movie my fiance and I both said we liked it, but I could tell that she felt for Bush. I seriously doubt that you'd get that opinion from a left wing audience anywhere in the States.
It is the cultural difference
written by Guest, May 09, 2005
" I was laughing at almost every joke but almost noone else seemed to get anything. It is very difficult for Brasileiros to understand Moore's sarcasm, even my fiance, who speaks fluent english, didn't pick up on most of it."

That should not be surprising. The humor was not universal. On the other hand, people in other countries loved it…so, maybe there is some cultural element.

"The worst was the scene that Kepp mentioned where Bush sat silent for 7 seconds."

It's fascinating that the worst wasn't the Iraqi woman wailing over the loss of her family members and home. Not about the American woman who's son was killed. It wasn't the graphic footage of people wounded and dying. That reflects something I've noticed, namely, that Brazilians do not cry much over death and misery. My theory, for whatever it's worth, is that so many brazilians have seen so much death and misery that it's just taken as a part of life. But emotions…there's plenty of drama…so much drama. So, here I'm not surprised.

"They understood that Bush is human, not that he was an elected leader."

Ahem, perhaps you missed something too, my friend. He was not elected, he was selected.

"I seriously doubt that you'd get that opinion from a left wing audience anywhere in the States."

Well, I don't think that's exactly true. I am a Liberal Democrat, and I felt anguish for Bush. I felt sorry for him, seeing the look on his face. I don't know what percentage may have felt that way, but I don't believe I was alone. Laughter at the sight of his pathetic countenance was nervous laughter.

Well, I do think there is something to the article. I appreciate your comments too.
Sempre negativo?
written by Guest, May 12, 2005
Porque e' que vejo sempre coisas negativas aqui neste site. Ha' tantos sites que falam das coisas maravilhosas e boas do Brasil, mas eu acho que aqui, so' fala da pobreza, dos problemas e do sofrimento do povo brasileiro. Aqui nos EUA, e em quaisquer outros paises, tem muitos problems de todo tipo tambem. Nao podemos esquecer que o Brasil nao e' o so' lugar que tem pobreza. E, tenho certeza e fe', que nos anos que veem, Brasil ha-de crescer e se torna a ser uma grande influencia no mundo. Deixamos ter foco na positividade que o Brasil pode oferecer-nos. Se um grupo, ou um povo certo, nao gosta de um filme, ou qualquer outro negocio que nos achamos importante, nao e' um razao pra os castigar. Eu gostaria ver opinoes mais alegres e felizes neste site. Deixa o mundo conhecer a beleza do Brasil, e em feito, a beleza do mundo Lusitano inteiro.
Brazilians Are Too Cordial to Love Moore
written by Guest, May 13, 2005
If Brazilians are so cordial, then why do they hire hit squads to kill people in their neighborhood who are annoying them. Maybe they are more concerned with sounding good than doing good.
Unsurpassed American Cordiality
written by Guest, May 14, 2005
One of these days we will be as cordial as the Americans, who created KKK and dropped nukes in Japan.
Audience Reaction
written by Guest, May 16, 2005
The only time I have been in a cinema where audiences were crying (for both the iraqe woman who lost her family and for the American woman who lost her son) and at the end of the film the entire audience stood up and applauded the film was last year in Cinema Leblon.
So, go figure.
John Miller

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