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Forget the Hype! Brazil Is No Gay Paradise. PDF Print E-mail
2005 - June 2005
Written by Luke McLeod-Roberts   
Thursday, 23 June 2005 18:01

Gay parade in Avenida Paulista, São Paulo, BrazilCramped in a tiny office above Rio de Janeiro's central train station, I am having trouble hearing Yone Lindgren amidst the cacophony of ringing telephones, conversations between the staff, and the construction workers hammering away incessantly at the flimsy partition walls which enclose CERCONVIDH- Brazil's first ever referral center for victims of homophobic violence and discrimination.

Lindgren is coordinator of this team of 10 dedicated people who give their time, energy and financial resources to make sure that Rio's gay men, women and transgender people are able to pursue their rights as citizens as fully as possible.

"We do the work the government doesn't," she says. Work which involves not only attending a helpline for victims of homophobic abuse, but also referring users on to the relevant psychological and medical specialists and following through the legal aspects of their cases. In addition the volunteers hold fundraising events just to make sure they can keep providing such a service.

And the service could not be more urgent. National and international human rights organisations such as the Gay Group of Bahia, Global Justice, Amnesty International and the International Lesbian and Gay Human Rights' Commission consistently identify Brazil as a gross offender of homosexual rights, where hatred leads to torture and over 100 murders reported in the national press each year.

And these figures may just be the tip of the iceberg of homophobic violence. For not only do many cases never come to light because families do not wish their dead relative's sexuality to be exposed, but the every-day violence LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender) people suffer is much wider and more nuanced than those sensationalist accounts which the press offer.

According to a study released this week, based on a survey at last year's Rio gay pride march by a coalition of LGBT activists from the Arco Iris NGO, and academics at the Cândido Mendes (UCAM) and Rio state University (UERJ), 64% of LGBT people have suffered some form of discrimination because of their sexual identity.

This includes acts as diverse as bullying at school or in the workplace, threats and name-calling from strangers and, as often occurs with trans (transgendered people), denial of access to public or semi-public spaces such as shops and bars.

One can't help but be baffled by these alarming statistics, which are expected to be similar when findings of a survey carried out in São Paulo are made public, considering that Rio, and its larger neighbour, are home to some of Latin America's most vibrant LGBT cultures.

Last month's gay pride parade in São Paulo brought together 2 million people, who chanted and danced for over 12 hours on the Avenida Paulista, the city's main thoroughfare, making it the largest gay pride event in the history of humanity. This Sunday the march along the beachfront in Copacabana, Rio, expects some 600,000 participants.

These cities, and other state capitals, such as Salvador and Curitiba, are also the base of extremely well-organised movements. Anti-discrimination laws and equal work-related benefits for homosexual and heterosexual partners embedded in municipal and state codes, are the result of their campaigning.

Whilst the project for same sex civil union in the federal chamber in Brasília, the Brazilian capital, would surely not have reached that stage without the relentless activism of such groups. 

"There has been an explosion of acceptance here in Brazil recently", says Silvia Ramos of UCAM, pointing to mainstream indicators such as the landslide victory of an openly gay man in the Brazilian version of Big Brother and gay characters in prime-time soap operas, such as Globo TV's America.

"But we don't know whether the guy that beats up a gay is the same one that claims to "have gay friends", or if we are dealing with a society that is split between tolerance and intolerance".

That intolerance jars with the popular image that Brazilians hold of themselves - that which is exported of a vibrant and happy country, where anything goes, the land of what Brazilian sociologist and historian Sérgio Buarque de Holanda has referred to as "o homem cordial" (the cordial man).

For Sandra Carvalho, of the Rio office of Global Justice, that cordiality is a myth. "Brazil is a violent country in terms of interpersonal relations", she says.

And that violence is often highly ambiguous: "The police that kill the poor and the black living in the favela (shanty-town) often come from poor, black families in the favela themselves".

Any policy which seeks to deal with the crisis of homophobic violence in Brazil then, must deal not only with the multiple types of violence, verbal and physical, which scourge the lives of LGBT people, but also, as Ramos argues, take this contradiction or ambiguity around acceptance as its point of departure.

But for some members of the LGBT communities, such as the trans, there may not be any ambiguity over societal tolerance in the first place. 

"We're a joke for the Brazilian society", says Hanah Suzart, President of ASTRA-Rio, the association of transgendered people, which concentrates on STD prevention and building self-esteem in the trans community.

To highlight the point, she talks of the "elbow effect": the daily humiliation trans suffer in the shop, the bank or the doctor's surgery, when onlookers nudge each other and comment indiscreetly.

The image of Rio as paradise, with the travesti as its ultimate symbol of carnavalesque transgression is a "utopia", according to Suzart. Instead it is "conservative, homophobic, prejudiced and elitist", with a (state) government that "will take us back to the era of the inquisition".

Certainly amongst activist ranks, there is a less than amicable relationship with this government, which is seen as representing "evangelicals", who don't prioritise LGBT concerns.

There is however a closer relationship with the federal and municipal governments, the latter which is supporting the city's pride march.

The federal government, for its part, has formed an alliance with LGBT NGOs nationwide by supporting the programme Brasil sem Homofobia (BsH) (Brazil without Homophobia),

Launched last year, it aims to train LGBT activists, incorporate material on homosexuals into school curricula and support referral centers in order to overcome homophobia.

On paper it looks impressive, but there are doubts as to whether it will ever become a reality.

"The funds were supposed to have been coming for the last five years. The problem is that the federal government made a recommendation and said "faz quem quiser" (whoever wants to do it, go ahead). But local governments don't want to."

As long as funds are slow or partial in arriving, the "goodwill" of civil society will continue to be exploited by governments, reaching one of its most stark incarnations in Suzart's situation.

Since the NGO which she runs out of her one-bedroom apartment has operated with sporadic or no external support, Suzart keeps it going herself. Through sex work.

"I go out at night and prostitute myself, get back in the early morning, sleep for an hour and a half, get up and take the bus to go give a talk. I have to pay my bus fare somehow. I have been asked if I have pimp. My pimp is the (state) governor."

Whilst sex work is legal in Brazil and many transgendered people consider it to be a dignified profession, Suzart's situation highlights a relationship of unequal power.

Committed individuals spend considerable physical, emotional and psychological efforts doing the state's "dirty work", often with little recognition, in order to construct a safer and more just society.

Some have hope that things may change later this year. Lindgren recently returned from meetings in Brasília to mark BsH's first birthday. She is confident that funds are on their way.

With an injection of the requested 400,000 reais (US$ 200,000) they would be able to offer a much more efficient and sustained service to their users, lifting the organisation out of a precarious financial dependence on its staff, LGBT organisations and their constituency.

And with the enormous LGBT pride parades which are now occurring across Brazil, it is becoming increasingly harder to ignore this critical mass. 

On Sunday I will be there marching alongside them, and whilst the images of Carnaval and a "live and let live" mentality are often tropes which mask the real suffering of every day survival, their temporary revival under the sun of a winter afternoon will be yet another act which is forcing Brazilian society to recognise and honour its diversity, whilst allowing LGBT people to reclaim paradise in their own vision.

Luke McLeod-Roberts is a journalist who is in Rio de Janeiro carrying out research for his MA dissertation on strategies to combat homophobic violence in Rio.



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Oi...para cum isso meu bem!
written by Guest, June 24, 2005
Nao sei nao mas gosto do numero 24 e usar baton!
Re: Violence towards Gays
written by Guest, June 24, 2005
I dont condone voilence towards anyone going about their normal routine in life, and not hurting anyone else.

The Gay, Lesbian, Homosexual, Faggot, Bull-dyke, Transgender, sub-species of humanity are a virus, that if left untreated WILL INFECT weak-minded men and women, as well as children developing their sense of sexuality.

If these groups, (GAYS, FEMINISTS),are serious about their life choices, then they should all get together and pool their resources and buy some land where they can practice their lifestyles and philosophy at a distance from people who do not want to have anything to do with this contagion.

For years we have been fed a steady diet of tolerance and rights, only to see 100s of millons of abortions, health plagues like AIDS, all as a result of a sub-groups insistence that they are normal, just like everyone else.

I dont want these groups teaching or influencing my children in any way, shape, or form!

I believe I have the "God given right" to pass my philosophy, and values on to my children!

To have mutated sub-species tribes such as Gays, Lesbians, Transgenders, Faggots flying around with airborne contagions infecting the young and weak of our societies has got to stop!

Re: Violência para Gays
written by Guest, June 24, 2005
Eu não desculpo o voilence para qualquer um que vai sobre sua rotina normal na vida, e não ferindo qualquer um mais. O gay, lesbian, homosexual, Faggot, Bull-bull-dyke, Transgender, sub-species do humanity são um vírus, que se a VONTADE untreated deixada INFECT fraco-se ocupe de homens e de mulheres, as.well.as as crianças que desenvolvem seu sentido do sexuality. Se estes grupos, (GAYS, FEMINISTS), são sérios sobre suas escolhas da vida, então eles se todos começarem junto e pool seus recursos e comprarem alguma terra onde podem praticar seus lifestyles e filosofia em uma distância dos povos que não querem ter qualquer coisa fazer com este contagion. Por anos nós fomos alimentados uma dieta constante da tolerância e direitas, only para ver 100s dos millons dos abortions, os pragas da saúde gostam de AIDS, tudo em conseqüência de um insistence dos subgrupos que são normais, justo como todos mais. Eu não quero estes grupos que ensinam ou que influenciam minhas crianças em nenhum maneira, forma, ou formulário! Eu acredito que eu tenho o "deus dado para a direita" para passar sobre minha filosofia, e valores a minhas crianças! Para ter tribes mutated do sub-species tais como Gays, os lesbians, Transgenders, Faggots que voa ao redor com contagions transportados por via aérea infecting o novo e fraco de nossas sociedades has.got.to parar!
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written by Guest, June 24, 2005
Lamentável esse comentário de mal gosto acima...
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written by Guest, June 24, 2005
This is a beautiful article and very realistic. As a brazilian homossexual, I am one to say.
I congratulate the author for his beautiful work.
Uma coisa me preocupa
written by Guest, June 24, 2005
Eu adoro mulher e sempre fui discriminado por isso. Por que nao fazem uma associacao para proteger homens que gostam de mulher? Eu ja cansei de ser discriminado e ate' perder oportunidades de emprego por que eles acham que eu vou comer as meninas (olha que essas meninas tem mais de 30 anos). E' uma vergonha nao protegerem os homens que gostam tanto de mulher. Nada como uma boa buceta.
Re: Gay Feminist Thought...
written by Guest, June 24, 2005
Dear Sistas,

Remember to strike at the enemy, MEN !, by following these simple ideas:

1. Portray feminism as being altruistic, and something that plays an important part in the democratic process. Then accentuate any injustice or hardships being endured by womyn, while ignoring any injustice or hardships being endured by males.

2. Highlight any advantages or successes of feminism, while hiding the many disadvantages and failures. State that feminism has given womyn more choice, while hiding the fact that so many womyn are now welfare dependant, and have very little choice.

3. Attempt to portray womyn positively, by portraying males negatively. This enables womyn to appear superior to males, without having to provide direct proof.

4. Accentuate or publicise any wrongdoing by a male, or attempt to portray this male as being representative of all males. Ignore any wrongdoings by a womyn, or state that it was caused by a male.

5. Portray womyn as being perpetually disadvantaged and victimised, as this helps prevent any unwanted criticism of womyn, and makes it easier for womyn to get more money. Ignore the fact that many womyn have now become highly dependant upon these sources of money.

6. Use highly biased studies and statistics to positively portray womyn. This normally involves â??interviewing the cat and not the dogâ?? type studies that result in biased conclusions, or it involves suppressing or ignoring any study that gives negative conclusions regards womyn.

7. Make continuous and repetitive use of the term â??woman and children??, but never the term â??men and childrenâ??. This helps to create a belief that men cannot be proper parents, and men cannot be with children.

8. Blame males for as many problems as possible, as this transfers responsibility for those problems onto males, and hides the fact that womyn may be partly or fully responsible for those problems occurring. Transferring responsibility also relieves womyn from having to find workable solutions to those problems.

9. Exaggerate! Begin by saying that certain situations occur sometimes, and then increase this to often, then most of the time, then all the time (EG. â??All Men are Liarsâ??, â??All Men are Rapistsâ??, â??All Men are Wife and Child Bashersâ?? etc). Include boys as well (EG. â??Boys are Stupid, Throw Rocks at Boysâ??, â??Boys are Smellyâ?? etc).

10. Proclaim the necessity for equal opportunity at work, while being highly selective on where womyn should work. This helps ensure that womyn undertake the more desirable types of work.

11. State that womyn are highly maternalistic and greatly concerned about children. Then ignore the fact that many womyn have become very materialistic and highly preoccupied with self. Ignore the fact that children are being increasingly raised by the state, in state funded child minding centres, schools etc.

12. Portray womyn as being the â??family makersâ?? and greatly concerned about family life. Ignore the fact that many families are now being broken up by womyn in an endeavour to find greater self-fulfilment outside of family life. Ignore the fact that any self-fulfilment outside of family life, is usually much less than what can be found within family life, and the breaking up of families normally affects the lives of many other people, particularly those of children.

13. Attribute social problems to patriarchy, while ignoring the fact that that all societies have developed from patriarchy.

14. Teach feminism to the young, as this helps to perpetuate feminism. The young are more gullible and easier to indoctrinate, and by the time they are old enough to realise the deceptions, another generation would have been indoctrinated in the interim.


15. Dismiss or ignore any criticism of feminism, but if a reply to criticism does become necessary, then make liberal use of one-line put downs (EG. â??Grow upâ??, â??Get a lifeâ??, â??You have to be kiddingâ??, â??Get realâ?? â??you must have a small dickâ?? â??you must need sexâ?? etc), or include the term â??domestic violence legislationâ?? to try and silence any further criticism. Label any correspondence that is critical of feminism as being â??hate mailâ?? or â??wedgingâ??, so there is minimal obligation to reply.

16. State that womyn have a right to speak their minds, then oppose any male who speaks his mind regards feminism or the modern woman. Label this male as being sexist, chauvinistic, or belonging to a radical menâ??s group.

17. Oppose any stereotyping or vilification of the womyn gender, then attempt to stereotype and vilify the male gender as much as possible. If a male questions this hypocrisy, then state that any stereotyping or vilification was only a joke, and feminism is actually altruistic, and plays an important part in the democratic process.
You all so homophobic!
written by Guest, June 24, 2005
I bet you all are either crossdressers or closet gay. Let the gay be, if they like to give their "butts" away, it is their butts, not yours!

keep the good work up
written by Guest, June 24, 2005
Dear Luke, very interesting article. I suppose you are able to find the information you need for your dissertation. Keep it up! I think it's being appreciated in Brazil. Love, Lies
Re: You all so homophobic
written by Guest, June 25, 2005
It's their butts today, and your butt tomorrow!

Their goal is the same as a Vampires goal, to infect every straight person on the planet!

They are a virus!

They probably have you practicing some of their patented sex acts, namely, oral sex!
Looking for a date?
written by Guest, June 25, 2005
I am black, well buit and have what you been looking for...12 by 3 inches of rage ready to strike your ass...go ahead, pull your trousers down!
Adoro buceta
written by Guest, June 26, 2005
Eu adoro mulher e sempre fui discriminado por isso. Por que nao fazem uma associacao para proteger homens que gostam de mulher? Eu ja cansei de ser discriminado e ate' perder oportunidades de emprego por que eles acham que eu vou comer as meninas (olha que essas meninas tem mais de 30 anos). E' uma vergonha nao protegerem os homens que gostam tanto de mulher. Nada como uma boa buceta.
Brazil no Gay Paradise & USA???
written by Guest, June 27, 2005
As an Gay citizen of the United States with a long term lover living in Brazil, I understand and have sympathy with the plight of my Brazilian brothers and sisters. But let us not forget that no one could possibly cater to the evangelical right more than George W. Bush. I think that President Lula has helped to open the minds of those who have education, knowledge and the ability to properly assess current events. While that may not make Brazil a gay paradise it is a lot closer than the majority of America who remain seriously homophobic.
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written by Guest, June 27, 2005
What does having "knowledge and the ability to properly assess current events," have to do with homosexuality?

You are a virus!

Your goal is a world full of Faggots, period!

The "right" stands in the way of your goal, and you are attacking the right for their valiant stand against, your kinds gay attack, against the values of the right!

Seek some help for your mental disorder!
I am not gay but...
written by Guest, June 29, 2005
the people on here that refer to others as " viruses", themselves have very serious problems. Gay bashing is a little like bashing the US or bashing Brasil - it is very easy (and cowardly) to hide behind a "guest" login and put others down. I have read brazzil for many months, and to me, nothing is more depressing than people who, having nothing more intelligent to say, resort to blanket, irrational criticism and labeling of other people. This is the same kind of speech that resulted in the rise and fall of Hitler, and the gross injustices that resulted. We really haven't progressed very far have we...
...
written by Guest, June 30, 2005
between all the little butt sluts in sao paulo and rio and then all the faggots and queer ass trannys, brasil must have assf**king than any place in the world
Bernie/BlueBlaze
written by Guest, June 30, 2005
When did having sexual intercourse with a memeber of the same gender become normal? The practice does not even serve a biological function, and in my humble opinion should be viewed as little more than pervasive sexual behaviour. What may I ask is next, the mainstream belief that man and dog should also be permitted to marry if they so choose? I mean, the biological out come is identical in every way...

I beleave that Homosexuality is a sin, as well as a serious mental disease. Further more, I also beleave that homosexuality should be classified in the same catagory as Autism, or perhaps O.C.D (obssesive compulsive disorder, however more severe). Homosexuality may not cause classical mental retardation as in the case of Autism, but will cause obvious mental retardation in other forms, for example: a person's social and sexual behaviour is greatly degenerated by it's affect, usually without any outside influence (such as culture). Gay people should be seeking serious clinical help, not social exceptance...

Also, I can not understand how anybody can equate homosexuality with anti-semitism and/or petty racism (it is almost like they have tried to sqeeze themselves in some how). Jews and other minorities have always lived day to day lives (making babies and working hard), and if one person from the community does happen to fall ill at any point in time, then that person will likely seek the help of a professional, i.e. a docotor. Why can't the same be said of the many homosexuals living in the gay community??

HOMOSEXUALITY DOES NOT EQUAL HEALTHY HUMAN BEHAVIOUR, LET US NOT FORGET THIS...







I\'m not gay but...
written by Guest, June 30, 2005
When did sexual intercourse with a memeber of the same gender become abnormal? It's certainly existed throughout time. I believe that my great uncle (in the 1800's) was gay, though no one ever talked about it. The fact is, man makes these rules, and what is considered " not normal" for a hundred years or so, many times becomes accepted in other times. What if these same people referred to you as a virus because you are different from them? Should we kill each other? Most gays that I have known and read about would rather not be "gay" beause of the social acceptance issues, but they can no more change the fact, than you can decide to be gay. I think that we should all try to "live and let live". I believe that a person should be able to do anything in life that they choose as long as they don't hurt anyone else. Most people (gay or straight) just want to live, love and have a meaningful life. (I am also certain that you will never agree.)
Re: This is the same kind of speech ...
written by Guest, June 30, 2005
Just giving my opinion of what I see as abnormal behavior.

Like any virus homosexuality spreads to other victims.

This is not something that occurs normally in nature, therefore it is against nature.

Take a trip into the wild and you will not see male animals butt-F@#$%*g other female animals!

Only intelligent human kind has decided, thats right, decided that they have a right to go after their own kind!

You are now in our schools, courts, municipal settings, slyly scheming ways to force your lifestyle decisions on the billions who are not like you!

You must be quarantined!

Stay away from my kids with your infectous desease!
to Bernie/BlueBlaze
written by Guest, June 30, 2005
With all the respect for your unquestionable authority, as I am sure you studied a lot of Anthropology and Biology and not at all appealed to religious funsamentalism to base your arguments, I fell the urge to inform you that the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION disagrees with you and its specialistas assure tha Homossexuality IS NOT A DISEASE.
...
written by Guest, June 30, 2005
And as to homossexuality not serving a biological function, you are again wrong. Sex, be it straight or gay, produces orgasm, which releases endorphines and alters the whole body metabolism.
Breeding is not the only goal of a human being.
Re: This is the same kind of speech ...
written by Guest, June 30, 2005
To the dumass that stated "This is not something that occurs normally in nature, therefore it is against nature":
You must have gone reeealy deep in your research, to claim something like that. Sientists themselves recognize the existence of homossexuality between animals. I myself have seen street (male) dogs f**king each other. Also, I have seen studies about it on NatGeo and the Discovery Channel.
Homossexuality is not part of nature? Where?? Certainly in your church it doesn't. Oh, wait! I doubt that too...
Thoughts
written by Guest, June 30, 2005
Well, there are some ignorant people living in Brazil. Good Lord! Homosexuality is a virus?
It can be passed on?
It's new to history?
I have a "God Given Right"

Attention repressed readers; beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
You have no right to judge Gods' Creations.
These are a tiny minority of individuals who have existed throughout time, and have, almost singlehandedly, created most of all that is of value. From works of art to science, homosexuals far outweigh their numbers in representation. They are not a curse, idiots, they are gifts from providence whose charge and burden in this life are beyond the comprehension of mere ordinary human beings.
Judge not least you should be judged.
Thoughts
written by Guest, June 30, 2005
Well, there are some ignorant people living in Brazil. Good Lord! Homosexuality is a virus?
It can be passed on?
It's new to history?
I have a "God Given Right"

Attention repressed readers; beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
You have no right to judge Gods' Creations.
These are a tiny minority of individuals who have existed throughout time, and have, almost singlehandedly, created most of all that is of value. From works of art to science, homosexuals far outweigh their numbers in representation. They are not a curse, idiots, they are gifts from providence whose charge and burden in this life are beyond the comprehension of mere ordinary human beings.
Judge not least you should be judged.
Bernie/Blublaze
written by Guest, June 30, 2005
Homosexuality is not healthy human behaviour, period. I would like to see evidence proving to the contrary,.

"As for the arguement that homo sexuality does serve a natural biological function, my response is this:" Sir, you must be using the better part of your imagination because this statement is pure and complete nonsense and can obviously hold no acceptable merit. I beleave your your statement reads something along these lines: sexual intercourse of any kind produces an orgasm which then releases endorphins which alters the bodies metabolism (Alters the bodies metabolism, ha??).Well in that case, I guess hitting yourself with a sledge hammer also serves a biological function, as this too will also release endorphines in to your bodies system.Perhaps the thought of making love to a razor wire fence and/or a broken wine bottle is also an exceptable way to get your sexual juices flowing, because according to your logic these can also serve a biological function?



Re:"Thoughts"... (The guy directly above)

Homosexuals are a gift???: Stop with your fairy tails, and please do not quote Bibel scripture toward us, the very act of homosexuality is a sin, this according to the good book itself.

Alguma Bicha Quer Tranzar?
written by Guest, June 30, 2005
O meu cachorro viralata ta doido prum forró.
Canadian Guest
written by Guest, July 01, 2005
My partner of 3 years is from Sao Paulo. We met when he came to visit Toronto. He was raised Jehovah's Witness and lived for some time in Jao Passoa. He has a large family and when I visited with them in February of this year, they were very warm and loving.
To all my gay Brazilian brothers and sisters: come to Canada. This country is obviously more tolerant than the ignorant, bigoted a*****es on this website. Gay marriage was legalized (finally!) just this week by the federal government.
There is more and more genetic evidence to support that homosexuality is genetic. But even if it isn't - I know many, many well adjusted gay people who are all paying taxes and contributing to society in a big way. I also have many friends with children from previous, heterosexual marriages (before they accepted that they were gay) and let me tell you - their kids are growing up open minded and tolerant of all peoples, regardless of sexual orientation, race or color.
Bigotry of any stripe is unacceptable in modern society. It is hardly an accident that the most enlightened and tolerant societies (Denmark, Holland, Germany, Canada, etc.) are also amongst the richest and most diverse. You must embrace people's differences and capitalize on them, not suppress and loathe them.
Remember one thing: heterosexuality is not normal it is only common.
Blues on a summers day
written by Guest, July 01, 2005
GERMANY, really??? German society is not very tolerant.

Heterosexuality is the natural order of man!!!! Man+Woman=child, Mam+Man=Disgusting, you are mentally warped...
Religious Brainwashing & Bernieblublaze
written by Guest, July 01, 2005
First off, try learning how the modern bible came in to being. It didn't come down on the wings of an Angel. Second, after finding out the shocking truth of the origins of the bible, try investigating the disconcerting notion that it does not contain all the stories, you call them books, and which are contrary to much of your religious dogma.After this, and I know it will require alot of bravery, entertain the concept that maybe the sories of the bible are born, that's right, I said born, from earlier stories. It's called comparitive analysis in general terms, or, in this instance, comparitive mythology, or comparitive religious studies.
Now, where do you, Bernie/Blublaze, a repressed fagot if I ever read one, get off trying to tell me something about the bible. Your an ignorant, repressed, small minded, and firghtened coward! You better start coming to terms with your own curiosity with this homosexuality issue or else your going to become insane. Make that more insane. Ya know, no less a human being the Winston Churchill admitted to having had a homosexual event in his life. He still went on to pretty much save the world, and no one gives a damn about that part of his life. So, like what, you would rather the world not have had him for a leader?
Please stop living the life your mom or dad or someone else wants. Come on out of the closet alittle and I am sure this will go along ways to
getting over your brainwashing. Eventually, you may actually discover some really great people.
Healthy Hetros?
written by Guest, July 01, 2005
Entertainment
written by Guest, July 01, 2005
First off, great article.
Homos are the bravest people, but then Alexander showed that a long time ago.

Now, about hetrosexuals. Normal? Are you nuts? I have yet to meet a normal hetrosexual, let alone one that is mentally stable, as is easily evidenced by the input of some of them here, and where in hell is one, just one, in a great relationship, let alone a healthy one!

Are you kidding. Hetrosexuals are the craziest most f#%*! humans on the planet.
They are ones running around killing people, starting wars, protesting other peoples right to live, and preaching against other people who they know nothing about. Indeed, some of these jerks think homosexuality is a virus!
Were it only that simple for world peace. Imagine, you just have sex with someone you don't really want to...like hetrosexuals do all the time....and whamo! They are Queered! Wow...a world of fagots...Imagine...if only!
Bernie/BlueBlaze
written by Guest, July 01, 2005
YOU HOMOS ARE OUT OF YOUR MINDS!!!!!!!!!
Relax Bernie...
written by Guest, July 01, 2005
I have a new title for you: "Mayor of DumbAssCus"

hehehe...Good day!
answer to \"Thoughts\"
written by Guest, July 01, 2005
You said "Well, there are some ignorant people living in Brazil. Good Lord! Homosexuality is a virus?
It can be passed on?
It's new to history?"

Where the hell did you get that these people are brazilian?? Most of the posters here are american. This is an US-based magazine about Brazil. Very few brazilians speak english;
Our most notorious poster here is canadian.
Re: Canadian Guest
written by Guest, July 01, 2005
No one is suggesting that just because you are Gay, we should ship you off to the Island of FagLesbian.

To each his own! However there are some Gay people who feel that it is their sworn duty in life to convert or force acceptance of their chosen lifestyle by any means necessary!

Forced through the courts!

Forced at school!

Forced at the workplace!

Look, if you want to live a certain lifestyle that's up to you, that being said I choose not live your lifestyle just as I choose not to smoke.

You choose not to live my lifestyle, and I am not sneaking around getting politicians , judges, and corporations to pass "Gay Crow" laws to try and get me to conform to your rules at my expense!
To bernie
written by Guest, July 01, 2005
There is a biological science called Psychology. When two men or two women have a romantic relationship, it is fulfilling a psychological (therefore biological) funcion.
And even if it were not a biological fuction, where the hell is it written in the US or Brazilian Constitution that "anything that does not serve a biological function is to be forbidden"? In fact, it isn't.
What kind of person gets bothered because two people are falling in love, being happy and living their lives whithout harming anyone? Only religious fundamentalists. Well, religious fundamentalists are precisely the kind that has promoted all the massacres and slaughters throughout history, including 9/11. What's more ironic about this "war" between christian-pro-bush-right-wing-religious-fundamentalists and islamic-pro-bin-laden-also-right-wing-religious-fundamentalists is that it is a war between equals. Both are essentialy the same thing, except one uses a suit and the other, a turbant. Both are religious extremists that base their acts on a book that they don't even know were came from (the Bible and the Quran) and - surprise! - they are both right wing conservatives.
Here is the deal: If you don't think two men loving each other is right, the, for god sake, don't you ever marry a man. And that's it!
If YOU have a BELIEF, you should APPLY it to Y-O-U-R life. Get it? To YOURS. Not to OTHER PEOPLE'S. This is what is philosophically known as freedom and self-determination: people's right to determine their OWN fates, according to THEIR OWN beliefs (not your belief or somebody else's). Is that so hard to understand??
This concept bases it self on the effective application of the equality principle (no one can impose their beliefs on another because they are all equal, none is better than the other) and freedom (people should be able to do whatever they please, just as long they don't hurt other people's rights).
These are the true meanings of the words Equality and Freedom, which the religious-pro-bush-red-neck-right-wing-conservatives like to brag about and invoke so often, but when it comes the time, they do everything against it.
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written by Guest, July 03, 2005
Bernie is a dolt. How many times do I have to repeat myself? Forget the guy. He's a complete moron.
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written by Guest, July 03, 2005
"there are some Gay people who feel that it is their sworn duty in life to convert or force acceptance of their chosen lifestyle by any means necessary!" Good Lord, it's the Repressed Homosexual Woman-Hating Pedophile Dude. When will you just accept that you are gay and leave everyone alone?
Bernie BlueBalls
written by Guest, July 03, 2005
Oye-oye-oye! Bernie BlueBalls, you are the dead wood of society. Just shut up already.
Brazilian Girl
written by Guest, July 03, 2005
Yes, Bernie BlueBalls is a good name for him because he is such a loser and not nice to girls and could never have a nice girl.

Well, I've got to go now…Don't write back, loser! ! !
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written by Guest, July 03, 2005
Oh, yes, and the other guy hates women and is a completely homophobic closet gay. You're right about that.

Well, I've got to go now…Bye.
Bernie
written by Guest, July 03, 2005
Oh, man! Why are you discussing anything with a stupid nursing student like the mimbo Bernie BlueBalls? They guy has now shown himself to be a homophobe as well as a complete idiot. I think he secretly wants c**k, but is afraid to admit it. That's typical of a homophobe.
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written by Guest, July 05, 2005
sticking a dick in someone's ass is not normal no matter how many ways you spin it.
asses were not made for dicks to enter. this is why you get aids because all the fudge you get in your dick and the bloody mess you make of each others.
even most brazilian women like it in the ass as much as their pussy. what does this tell you about brazil.

at least the lesbians are hot to watch
So much hatred - it makes me sad
written by Guest, July 05, 2005
I cannot and do not understand why some people have to be so hateful towards homosexuals. There are so many things in this world that need attention: poverty, famine, disease, pollution, preserving the environment, education needs, etc. Homosexuality is not a virus but the more I read here, I think hatred is a virus.
Re: So much hatred - it makes me sad
written by Guest, July 05, 2005
Homosexual infection throughout society needs attention too!

You only see what you want to see.

One day the Faggots will knock on your door to take you to a re-adjustment camp, where you will be asked what gender, besides the one that you are, would you like to become.
Interesting but exaggerated.
written by Guest, July 06, 2005
Perceptions are interesting... True there is violence and homophobia, but things are improving. We now have a gay travel agency and tour operator GBrazil already operating for 7 months here, RioGtravel a gay friendly one recently opened. The municipality is investing in GLBT events and tourism, for example the internaional gay and lesbian Travel Association world convention in Rio, and much more. This is besides the improving legislation both state and nation wide. Look across to the US, the situation is getting worse and not better. Sure we have things to improve here, but melancholic nihilism of what seems a disenfranchised MA Student isnt helpful for us or, more probably, him. Darling, go and enjoy life...
Re: So much hatred - it makes me sad
written by Guest, July 06, 2005
It makes me sad when people who have decided to make a choice in life that is radically different from the norm, then attempts to shove their brand of how society should look, act, feel down the normal persons throat!

They do this by infiltrating politics, business, entertainment, education,law, government and all the social science fields!

After getting inside, then the real agenda starts coming out namely, A MAJORITY GAY SOCIETY!

WAKE SADNESS, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING YET!

My prediction is this: In the next few years you will hear reports of Faggots attacking straight men on the streets of major cities (already happening in prisons).

There will be organized gangs of Faggots running around sodomizing weak men!
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written by Guest, July 06, 2005
Maybe it is already happening!

You have men sodomizing women on a regular basis!

Is this behavior any different from the Faggots sexual behavior?

I sense that they have already achieved their goal of sodomistic behavioral infection amonst (so called) straight men!

REAL MEN DONT f**k REAL WOMEN IN THE BUTT!
Faggots
written by Guest, July 08, 2005
Let's not go gettin' crazy. Backdoor action with your girlfriend or favorite hooker is okay, actually good. I do this a couple of times a week. It's the faggots we are worried about
Prejudice, Intolerance & Hate
written by Guest, July 08, 2005
Unfortunately seem to be alive and well as I read the article and responses.

I wanted to learn more about Brazil and it's people, this is a sad reflection.

-reader in Denver, Colorado
PAZ E AMOR
written by Guest, July 09, 2005
VIVA O AMOR, SEJA ELE HETEROSSEXUAL, HOMOSSEXUAL OU BISSEXUAL. O AMOR É AMOR.

SINTAM-SE AMADOS!
muriloflavio@ig.com.br
written by Guest, July 10, 2005

I am brazilian andI think that nobody here can assure what is wrong or right for the other's life, Why cant the people just try to love and respect each other as jesus, buda and maome taught us. I am atheist but if I believed in a god I'd be ashamed of sharing any resemblance with any of you. we all are human beings above all , full of virtues and faults, let's weight them all before pointing someone up, not only one or other characteristc of their personality.
Re: Prejudice, Intolerance & Hate
written by Guest, July 11, 2005
If you live in Denver as you say, then you must know that Denver has become a fascist police state ran by feckless politicians and man-hating feminists.

I dont know how the Faggots are involved in this ,but I know they are in there somewhere working furiously to change laws to suit their agenda.

The man-hating lesbian feminist, well you already know what they want, YOUR WOMAN!
Re: Why cant the people just...
written by Guest, July 11, 2005
This is my point exactly!

Why can't the Gays, Lesbians, Faggots, bisexuals, transgenders, S&M's, just love and respect straight people without sneaking around trying to pass laws that affect people who do not share their lifestyle choices?

Because they have an agenda!

Thier agenda is to infect to the point of critical mass!

They want everyone to act like them, think like them, and behave like them!

God help your ass if you are a Christian!

They are livid about Gods condemnation of them in the Bible!

They are after the minds of your sons, daughters, children for gods sake!

They will stop at noting to have their way!

MARK MY WORDS AND MARK THEM WELL, THEY WILL CONTINUE THEIR ASSAULT THROUGH THE EDUCATION, COURTS, POLITICAL, AND MEDIA SYSTEMS UNTIL THEY, AND ONLY THEY, ARE IN CHARGE OF SETTING YOUR SOCIAL AGENDAS!

WITHIN 5 YEARS YOUR CHILD WILL BE ABLE TO GO TO AN ALL LESBIAN, OR ALL FAG SCHOOL FROM KINDERGARTEN THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL!

THEY ALREADY HAVE A GAY HIGH SCHOOL IN NEW YORK!

HOW ARE THEY GOING TO KEEP THIS SCHOOL RUNNING? THEY HAVE TO RECRUIT MORE STRAIGHT KIDS INTO BECOMING GAY!

WHERE DO THEY FIND THESE STRAIGHT KIDS? AT YOUR HOUSE AND MINE!








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written by Guest, July 12, 2005
You're a paranoid nutjob. Very homophobic and therefore probably very much a closeted gay. Thus, your paranoid raving is perhaps just a personal, deep seeded fantasy. Mark my words.
Re:You\'re a paranoid nutjob...
written by Guest, July 12, 2005
You're finished, your brainwashing days are over!

We know what you are up to, WORLD FAGGOT/LESBIAN DOMINATION!
Re: Why cant the people just...
written by Guest, July 13, 2005
"Why can't the Gays, Lesbians, Faggots, bisexuals, transgenders, S&M's, just love and respect straight people without sneaking around trying to pass laws that affect people who do not share their lifestyle choices? "

This is quite a dumb question. Why can't they just live their lives?
Because they are disrespected every single day, week and years of their entire life. They often get fired when at work somebody finds out their sexual orientation (which they were born with and never chose). Because it is not rare to see homossexuals being beat up, sometimes murdered. Because they don't have the legal right to marry the people they love.
Your question would make sense if we already lived in a balanced society, with equal rights for both gay and straight. Then it wouldn't be necessary for gay people to fight for their right to BE, because they would already have earned that righ.
Now, anyone ho is not retarded, blind or extremely cinical will agree with me that this equilibrium situation is still far away from actual reality. The very fact that this article above was written and the disgusting comments left by christians, patriarchalists, prudes and conservatives shows that very well.
So that's precisely the reason why homossexuals fight to pass laws. You straight guys don't have to do that, because you have already conquered yours.
As to homossexuals taking over the world and forcing straight men to sex (I can't believe I actually read this!), just take a look at the Netherlands, Belgium and Spain. None of these absurds are happening there... au contraire: everyone is living their lives in peace.
Re: Why Can\'t Gays...
written by Guest, July 14, 2005
You said, "Because they are disrespected every single day, week and years of their entire life. They often get fired when at work somebody finds out their sexual orientation (which they were born with and never chose). Because it is not rare to see homossexuals being beat up, sometimes murdered. Because they don't have the legal right to marry the people they love."

Your first three points are valid and VERY TOUGH LAWS should be enacted to throw someone who does this to anyone behind bars for life! These are problems in the society at large that needs to be addressed and forcefully!

On the last one I think we are going a little bit too far!
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written by Guest, July 15, 2005
Yeah if you can keep Robert Byrd and Hillery Clinton away from the legislation it may have a chance.

Robert Byrd is going to stay in the Senate until they name the State of West Virginia after him!

Hillery Clinton is hell bent on owning every American child at birth and will "blow dart" wording into every bill that comes through the senate to achieve her evil agenda!
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written by Guest, July 16, 2005
"Hillery Clinton is hell bent on owning every American child at birth…"

You're a real crackpot, you know that?
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written by Guest, July 18, 2005
I'M A CRACKHEAD!
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written by Guest, July 19, 2005
And you are a Hillery Clinton spook, minion, operative!
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written by Guest, July 19, 2005
Forget about Hillery for President!

It would be the stupidest move the Democrats have made since running Ted Kennedy in the primaries!
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written by Guest, July 19, 2005
Heaven knows those Dems are stupid wackos and nutcases!
Re: Why Can\'t Gays...
written by Guest, July 21, 2005
Newsflash 7/21/2005,BBC News:

FRENCH comedians, worried that they might be out of a job, sided with freedom-of-speech advocates yesterday after Parliament passed a law that makes it an imprisonable offence to insult homosexuals and women.
Jokes about blondes, La Cage aux Folles — the hit show and film about camp gays — and even the Old Testament could be banned under the law, suggested critics who said that political correctness was running riot in France.



“We are plunging ever more into le politiquement correct,” Laurent Ruquier, a star television comedian, said, using an expression imported in the 1990s from America. “You are not allowed to mention anything or anyone,” Ruquier said, noting that he is himself gay.

The unease is being felt on both the Right and the Left as France follows the US and Britain down the path of trying to stamp out the potential for causing offence to minorities of any kind.

In Britain the comedian Rowan Atkinson has joined the fight against government plans to criminalise incitement of religious hatred, arguing that comics must be free to lampoon religion and religious leaders.

The Catholic church opposed the new French law and some critics on the Left said that the State was resorting to the methods of the Thought Police of George Orwell’s 1984.

Meanwhile, France Soir warned its readers to avoid the most common French insults: “Calling a woman mal baisée (sexually frustrated) or uttering a homophobic enculé (a***hole) could cost you six months’ jail.”

Last month the National Human Rights Commission urged the Government to abandon the Bill that outlaws sexist and homophobic insults.

“If it is adopted, we will face difficulty defining insults and will thus have to condemn words. Certain films, books and even the Bible could come under its terms,” said the state body.

The centre-right Government of President Chirac ignored the advice, redrafting the Bill but leaving in place the maximum six months in prison and £15,000 fine for “defaming a person or a group of persons on account of their sex or their sexual orientation”.

In a stormy parliamentary session, rebel MPs from M Chirac’s Union for a Popular Majority (UMP) inserted the handicapped as another protected minority but this is likely to be dropped by the Senate.

The new law, which also includes penalties for incitement, puts sexual insults into the same framework as longstanding laws against racist and anti-Semitic speech and denying the Holocaust.

The Bill also creates a high authority for combating all “discriminations”.

Homosexual and feminist groups welcomed the law, which the Government drafted in an attempt to regain credit with gay and women’s groups after it opposed homosexual marriage last spring. One of the first steps planned by SOS homophobie, a campaign group, is the prosecution of football supporters who chant pédés (queers) at players who do not meet with their favour.

According to Les Chiennes de Garde (Guard Bitches), a feminist group, the law would act as a brake on the physical abuse of women “by first outlawing verbal violence”.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT GAY/lESBIAN INTENT?



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written by Guest, July 25, 2005
That picture at the top of the page says it all!

SO CONFUUUUUSSSED! CIRCLES, GO ROUND IN CIRCLES, GO ROUND AND ROUND, CIRCLES, GO ROUND IN CIRCLES!

TAKIN TOO MUCH TIME TO MAKE UP MY MIND EITHER A BOY OR A GIRLLLLLLLL!

ALL THE OTHER GIRLS IN MY CRAZY MIXED UP WORLD EITHER I DROP THEM , OR I DONT!

SOMETIMES I THINK ABOUT FORGETING YOU, BUT ITS SO SO HARD TO MAKE A CHOICE!

CIRCLES, GO ROUND IN CIRCLES, I'M SO CONFUSED! CIRCLES, GO ROUND IN CIRCLES!
President Bush
written by Guest, July 30, 2005
Brazil is infested with Llamas
homophobia
written by Guest, April 10, 2006
all you homophobic people out there should know, homophobia has now been classed as a serious mental disorder so if i were you, i would hide and/or change my opinion of homosexuals. Being homosexual/gay isn't a virus or a disorder, it is a state of being, it's like breathing do you want to take away peoples right to breathe? if so you are a sadist.
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written by Paulo Valente Ferreira Neto, October 11, 2006

Just imagine how boring life will be if we're all the same... In my idea of a perfect world is one which we really appreciate each other differences...
Short, tall,democratic, republican,black, white, gay,straight... A world which all of us are equal, but definitely not the same.
O Mundo precisa de paz .. vamos cada um viver nossas vidas com a liberdade que nos permita viver em sociedade
Sickening...
written by Jaguar, January 08, 2007
How dare you talk, judge, manipulate opinions using the words "God" and "Good book" ? "Love your neighbor like you love yourself" said that man in Palestine, 2000 years ago, that you have chosen as a guide. "Dont judge" he added... Are you blind ? dum ? or brainless to not read and understand his message of compassion. In America - with American Indian tribes and black populations - in the name of the Good Book and God, we have killed, tortured thousands of souls.A real genocide. Shame on us ! And you want to keep on this sad and degrading action with gay people now ! Is your spirituality so poor that you decide to use your instincts instead of your heart and humanity ! Through your words, I can feel that your faith is just an expression of your hate and fear of your neighboor. Shame on you, so-called child of God !
The Fall of Mankind
written by We the People, January 09, 2008
All the faith healers using the bible as a weapon. Ha! Even though the book is a great book of fiction written by philosophers to serve as guidelines for the well being of human beings, it seems that even the complete ignorance of man could take it and corrupt it to fit ones own agenda. Just the tip of are "oh so smart" ways. Then when you listen to these people talking about their own species with their hearts full of hate, makes you understand completely. If they spent as much time trying to draw up some positveity as they did all the negativity, we might be off to a good start. However, seems like the jaded minds, which could never win, would rather spend their time worrying about other people lives than their own. The "virus" is hate. The ignorance is spreading it. The selfishness is trying to get others to buy it. Live life as you will. Karmic debt surrounds you as you create it. Dob't buy it? Well then never ask the question "why is this happening to me?" Because it all comes back at you. In time, you'll make your payments. I can only think that you are already paying because you live with all this hate. Hate Dies Hard. Because you cant be sorry, I'm sorry for you.

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