Brazzil

I enjoyed reading your article and agree that Brasil is wasting an untapped potential to become a 1st world powerhouse. Abundant natural resources, inexpensive labor, manufacturing and a growing technological work force.
Having visited Brasil many times, I cant help but notice I have never,, ever seen an advertisement in the NY sunday times or any other paper luring tourists to Rio.
Its on the of the most beautiful cities in the world.

Ate Mais,

James H.

Rio is also one of the most violent cities in the world and tourists can run the risk of being kidnapped or worse while visting the belligerent country. I can very well understand why Brazil is not high on the international list of best places to invest, the country is teething with corruption and crime, not to mention wide spread poverty which ulitmately equals low literacy rates. All anybody likes to do when they vistit Brazil is take advantage of the countrie's easy women; to invest would be high risk and uncertain. I would not take the chance myself, there is much greater potential for return by investing in the north American market, why risk it? Unless of course you are speaking specifically of south America's agricultural potential, in this case Brazil may offer some incentive. Although, I would pressume corruption could prove to be a distinct problem in this feild as well.

You just sore because your frozen s**thole Canada is n America wannabe, without the ability to get out from under the United States shadow.

Canada...one of the most borrowing uninteresting frozen lands on planet earth...keep it, nobody wants that pile of ice!

Another third-world beaner who hasn't left his favela talking about the north. Ya, Senhor feijao, all Canadians live in ingloos, they flee from polar bears daily in Toronto and Montreal, and they're secret mission is to bow down before the capitalists gods and become the 51 state of America.. ROFL

Bernie is right, Rio is a violent city (although picturesque if you block out the millions living in misery), and Brazil is ripe with corruption and scandal. I would be hesitant to invest there too. Brazil's lazy work force and illiteracy would pose serious threats to any type of business venture as well.

I lived there for 5 years, a decade ago - I couldn't get over how f**king backwards everything was, how stupid everyone was, and how willing o povo Brasileiro is to f**k over even their mothers for a dime. Pathetic country, really. Shame though, the scenery is lovely - and I'm not talking about the whores. From north to south, it is just one lovely setting after another. The problem is the people. Even Brasilians will tell you this.

STOP making stupid ass generalizations about a country! BRAZILIANS WOULD f**k OVER THEIR MOTHER FOR A DIME?!?!?!?!? Look the country does have an amazing first world side to it while at the same time it also have a third world side to it!!!!!!
Now listen carefully, you say you would never invest in BRazil, BRAZIL IN 1999 and 2000 received 29 and 30 billion dollars in investment!!! MOre than Mexico, Argentina combined...ONly CHina, in the developing world received more in FDI, while I am sure you might be a good businessman you are f**king stupid ass facists......

The politicians are so concerned with fighting between themselves that it takes years to accomplish anything when in office. Follow the money! It's in the mail or in the postmans briefcase on the way to politicians offices. Afterall, why vote for the crooks of the future and give them a free pass to rip of the peoples taxes and the lands resources. Poverty in the last thirty years have increased three fold. The country has not invested on the young population. The wealthy travels abroad and assists other countries economies. Sending their children to work at coffee shops and car wash, work that they wouldn't be seen doing in their homeland for R$130.00+ a month.
To the posters above: Who's asking for your investements anyway? No one. There's major corruption north of the Rio Grande River as much as south of the river. it's on the news everyday. I say, stay in Canada.

First off I may say this article was pretty depressing, although a huge eyeopener I'm sure, and I'm sure many Brasilians know this as well.

It's very hard, especially on those who live in favelas, where there is actually good and warm people just trying to live the best they can, while the traficantes are the ones repsonsible for all the crime and violence that takes place there, and possible around the city of Rio as well. My prayers go out to them.

As for Brazil itself, it offers so much. It's just no one wants to bother because the country is known for it's bad press and violence. I myself am planning on going to Rio in the near future, why? Because the city looks captivating. I praise the Cariocas, who from some of the articles I've read, seem to be VERY friendly and are willing to welcome you with open arms. People around the world generally don't see this, and assume Brazil's just another 3rd world country that needs help, true it has some issues, but HEY, look at my country, USA, we have TONS of issues ourselves with a stupid ass president. We have our share of problems too. Rio and the rest of Brazil shouldn't be allowed to be stereotyped like this simply because of certain individuals. To the Cariocas, you live in a beautiful city.

"while I am sure you might be a good businessman you are f**king stupid ass facists......"

Sure, I accept that - but it beats the hell out of being some champaign socialist who has no f**king idea about anything in Brazil because he hasn't left mommy's nest in 30 years. Get over yourself kid. You want to see generalizations materialize - transfer you ass over to Brazil and live and work there for a spell of 2 years or longer. Your first hand experiences will trump anything you've read in any socially misguided anthropological rag. WORD!

Rio was voted as being the friendliest city in the world.. There is a warmth to the people of Brasil that I cannot explain. I think their environment is responsible for the crime and violence. Poor people will do anything they can to support their families.

James H.

Ya, Brazilians just love one another to death.

More Deaths by Gun in Brazil in 10 Years than in All Wars in the World Put Together PDF Print E-mail
Written by Irene Lôbo
Tuesday, 28 June 2005

Here is something to think about: the number of deaths by firearms registered in Brazil over the last decade (a total of 325,551, or an average of 32,555 per year) is more than all the deaths in a total of 26 armed conflicts that took place around the world during that period.

That fact is in a new UNESCO study just released on "Deaths by Firearms in Brazil from 1979 to 2003."

The study, which was coordinated by sociologist Julio Jacobo Waiselfisz, found that during the whole 24-year period surveyed a total of 550,000 people in Brazil were killed by firearms. During the period, firearms deaths rose over 460%, while the population grew 51.8%.

The study also showed a spike in deaths by firearms as a percentage of total deaths in Brazil.

In 1979, deaths by firearms were 1% of total deaths. By 2003, the percentage had risen to almost 4%.

There was also a sharp increase of over 540% in the use of firearms in murders and 75% in suicides.

The only bright spot in all this was a drop of 16% in deaths due to accidents with firearms.

The downside in all this is that a large percentage of those who die from firearms are young people in the 15 to 24 age group. In 1979, 7.9% of firearms deaths in Brazil were young people in the 15 to 24 year age group.

By 2003, that had risen to 34.4%, which means that one out of every three youths in this age group who die in Brazil die from gunshot wounds.

Firearms deaths have now risen to third place on the list of principal causes of death in Brazil, behind heart/circulatory diseases and cancer. That is for the whole population.

However, in the 15 to 24 age group, things are tragically different. Death by firearms is the principal cause of death, followed by traffic accidents.

I AM BRAZILIAN-CANADIAN. WHEN I WAS LIVING IN BRAZIL, I USED TO WORK AN AVERAGE 60 HOURS PER WEEK. I WORKED DURING THE NIGHT, WEEKENDS, AND SOMETIMES I HAD 3 JOBS AND AT SAME TIME I WAS FULL TIME STUDENT, I USED TO SLEEP IN CLASSROOM.
WHEN I MOVED TO NORTH AMERICA, MY LIFE CHANGED. I STARTED TO PASS HOURS AND HOURS LOOKING FOR JOBS AND WRITING RESUMES AND COVER LETTERS. I STARTED TO SLEEP IN THE PARKS DURING THE SUMMER OR WATCH CABLE TELEVISION ALL DAY.
I LIVE ALREADY MORE THAN 12 YEARS IN NORTH AMERICA, I AM COUNTING MY PERIOD IN THE USA AND CANADA TOGETHER. IF I WORK 3 YEARS DURING THIS PERIOD, IT WAS SO MUCH.
I LIVE IN CANADA, AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT EVERYBODY HERE SUCK THE STATE IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK TO BRAZIL. HOWEVER, IN BRAZIL, THE STATE DOES NOT HELP TO PAY MY RENT, THERE IS NO GOOD FOOD BANKS, THE SOCIAL PROGRAMS ALMOST DO NOT EXIST.
IN CANADA NATIONALS HAVE LESS EDUCATION AND WORK LESS THAN IMMIGRANTS BUT THEY MAKE MORE MONEY. IN FACT BRAZILIANS ARE VERY LAZY, I USED TO WORK AN AVERAGE 60 HORUS PER WEEK, AS CANADIAN, HA HA HA HA I DO NOT WORK FOR ALMOST 2 YEARS AND I AM DOING FINE.

I think that saying that Brazilians are lazy is an injustice, the problem is that in much of the 3rd world, people realize that no matter how hard they work they've got virtually nothing to show for it .Instead of talking about moronic, neo fascist income re- distribution schemes , the imbecilic MR Barque might ask why are middle & lower middle class brazilians being taxed and regulated into extiction so their money can be stolen to prop up non competitive businesses and socialist, vote buying ponzi schemes . And I think it is impossible for MR Barque to have held office in Brazzil and to be aquainted w/ brazilian political culture and NOT KNOW exactly who these bribe taking govt bastards are, to the man.
I recently opened a business here in NYC where I live and work as a small builder, it tok me approx 31/2 hours and 4 forms and my business was approved , and new york is not the most business friendly state in america. My friend tried to open a small business in S.P. and it took him 3 wks to finally give up on the idea after the govt screwed him.
I have a fellow American who lives in S.P. and wants to open a brazilian business, employing brazilian citizens , deposit any profits made in a brazilian bank. And he is going through the same ordeal. Plus they not only make him wait 10 yrs to become a citizen, but stupidly require that he leave the country every 90 days, who would put up w/ that kind of B.S when you can go to eastern europe southeast asia , or for that matter Chile with your hard earned money

Bernie is a fool, a well known fool.

"Sure, I accept that - but it beats the hell out of being some champaign socialist who has no f**king idea about anything in Brazil because he hasn't left mommy's nest in 30 years. Get over yourself kid. You want to see generalizations materialize - transfer you ass over to Brazil and live and work there for a spell of 2 years or longer. Your first hand experiences will trump anything you've read in any socially misguided anthropological rag. WORD!"

Listen here for a second, first of all your stupid post previously said that you understand why people dont invest in Brazil...to bad for you must waste your time reading stupid facist work and you get blind-sided by your stupid idelogy...I am not against business but then again thats where you love to take people from...HEY if you attack any businessman you are automatically a socialist.....That's so stupid that like anybody attacking the state of Isreal is automatically anti-semestic...Look, son Brazil needs businessman and need investments but as I have said all along we have not got it from people that have supposdely given it to use free-markets (FHC).....trust me, I know your type you love radical free-markets when they have given Brazil that largest debt in the developing world (even though before 1994 they still had the largest amount around 140 billion now it is over 350 billion dollars) and also go look at FIESP recent document published today taxes went up from 24 percent to over 36% today.....why because Brazil need to service its debt...Also the govt had to devaluate to stimulate exports and reduce tariffs...Now some of these reforms were needed but Brazil's economy has not grown in over 2 decades....GDP per capita is avg 7 percent since 1980s....
Now, here is at least a plan...renegotiate Brazil's short-term debt of which 40 percent is due in the next 12 months....This will likely reduce the 150 billions spent each budget on the interest payments...make sure you continue to export more....and also attack fraud and abuse in the pension system and make the minimum retirement age 65.....If the government can do this and control internal growth in the government spending a true budget surplus will appear...THen it will help contribute to internal savings...THis will also help keep inflation in check.....it will likely make up for the loss in FDI....But again u said u know people dont invest in Brazil but sorry buddy they do, and have just look at the numbers before the global economic slowdown in 2001, especially the year 2000 and 1999!!!!!
TAKe care, and just for the record there is no way you no more than me about Brazil...trust me i have thousands of articles on Brazil.......I know more than you can ever image plus I am ONLY 20! SO nice try! and I would have voted for Serra not Lula!

I am absolutely correct, Brazil is a very corrupt and crime ridden country and statistics prove this overwhelmingly. In my personal opinion, It would not make much sense to invest in anything other than Brazilian bikinis.

Also, I recall an earlier poster and his mentioning of Brazil's two sides, the countrie's first and third world sides, as referred (This before calling me a facist). Well, I can assure this man that most third world countries can also boast of having two sides, but the real question is, where do the majority of your countrie's population reside on this scale? A country is only as wealthy as it's average citizen, my friend. Further more, I still beleave Brazil to be a very unsafe country in general, as well, a very unsafe country to invest, respectively. You may agrue with me all you like (Athough I dout you will provide any persuasive evidence to the contrary, being from Brazil).

"I know more than you can ever image plus I am ONLY 20!"

Qwa qwa qwa. At 20, I doubt you know where to put your pee-pee when with the opposite (or in the younger Brazilian scene, SAME) sex. Run along child, you' re bothering us.

In all face of earth there are a lot corruption. Even people that sit in front of the computer in his or her job and decide to write a comment here is also a corrupt. Instead to work is doing other things with the computer, they are stealing minutes from hours of work that should be redirected to the activities of the company.

I travelled and I lived in 5 Countries in this planet. I saw schemes in all places. Be good. Be mature and do not look so much to the numbers. USA has a huge debt and nobody talks about it. Who wants to invest in the USA? What I know, many companies left to Mexico. Now, many companies were advised if they want still on the market they must go to China and India.

"Qwa qwa qwa. At 20, . . ." Blah, blah, blah.

Just because he is smarter than you and kicks your ass at the tender age of 20 is no reason to get nasty. Some of the world's best thinkers did their best work in their 20s. What's the matter, are you suffering from Has Been Syndrome?

Writing in CAPS will not make your weak case any more appealing nor convincing! You spewed raw ignorance not worthy any comments.

However, I am so happy (as a Brasilian) that you no longer live in Brasil since you have nothing to contribute to its society, unfortunately, you became a liability to the friendly nation of Canada. As such, every nation has its share of parasites, in your case, you found another host to suck its blood dry.

Like the old saying goes…”People Who Know The Least Bark The Loudest.” Peace brothers!

Good Day.

If you consider that child's rambling, disorganized, unstructured attempt at a thought as being "SMART", you're more pathetic them him.

Can you put that in standard English???


"If you consider that child's rambling, disorganized, unstructured attempt at a thought as being "SMART", you're more pathetic them him. "


Is that some form of dialect? English is your second language, isn't it? What a shame you don't have a first. People that quantum-stupid should be quarantined!

Please, don't breed...Good Day.

Before writing something and sending it to be published, you should revise the use of English, some expressions are out-of-date and not used in that context! This form of English is not accepted worldwide, and it's a shame for us Brazilians not to be able to write in English properly! Next time send your article to a certified translator!ramcadu@hotmail.com

Well, I adjust for non-English speakers and youthfulness. He clearly has put thought into his analysis of the Brazilian economy. His analysis may not be something you agree with, but your snide commentary on his youth was neither responsive nor appropriate. It just seemed like a cheap shot and sour grapes.

Which "expressions are out-of-date and not used in that context"? I speak English and I don't see it the same way you do. Maybe I'm out-of-date though

At the age of 20 Alexander ruled most of the known world. But then the average life expectancy was around 25. Oh to be 20 again, when you think you know how to solve everything.

The US is the land of easy living, Braxil is the land of easy woman. Can't we all just get along?

hey DT you said brazilians f**k their mother for a dime ? I WILL f**k YOUR MOTHER FOR FREE a*****e

The US is the land of easy living...hehehe, maybe, if you sell drugs!

Braxil is the land of easy woman. Can't we all just get along? Surely, drop your trousers Sissy Woos, and I will serve you a 3x12 inches of pure veiny hairy Brasilian rage...it may enhance your hemmoroid too!

f**king American Coward.

Must you stoop to such a level? Really dumb stuff here at the bottom. Grow up and show a little restraint, shall we?

Honestly, I connot beleave that anybody would stand in the defence of a 20 year old eliterate child who thinks he knows everything. The kid cannot even spell the word "know" correctly, yet you read his post as though it were the holy scripiture.

I myself am only 21 years of age, yet only care to mention this fact when I beleave it can serve some kind of valid a purpose.

As for the comment in regard to Alexander: You honestly do not beleave that Alexander at age 20 could have competently commanded entire legions of the Greek military on every level by himself, do you?? Alexander was little more than a figure head, and the real work including stratigizing as well as every other detail was to be left in the exceedingly capable hands of a far more qualified indivdual.....

In others, would you want the child mentioned earlier leading your military??? Stop quoting his jibberish, because I, as well as any other semi intelligent person will feel patronized by your effort.


Also, I can see that this thread has greatly degerated... Good job Brazilians!!

"Oh to be 20 again, when you think you know how to solve everything." As opposed to being "mature" when you KNOW you know how to solve everything.

I will apply some petro jell...

"Must you stoop to such a level? Really dumb stuff here at the bottom. Grow up and show a little restraint, shall we?"

Bernie / Canadian / Blueblaze

Dude, before going off on some rant about someone's spelling, you may want to proof read your own posts before hitting the send key.

Shay dude! Totally know what your saying man, I mean, where does that dude get off runnung his mouth about somebody else spelling dude? Maybe next time you can proof read his posts for him man? You really seem to enjoy process dude."HE HE HE HE HE", Dude we know it's you. You are a harshest nerd dude, Shay!!! Cowabunga dude!!!

First let me say that I am not perfect and that I make a few mistakes on my posts. I never meant to say Brazilians do their mother, I was trying to stop the previous assumptions made against Brazilians ( I am a Brazilian and live in Brazil and f**king proud of it). I will be the first one to admit that I am not the greatest with the keyboard, I am sorry for causing confusion. But because I made a mistake with the word "know" does not make me stupid, but that ok that some people think so.

Secondly, I would like others to read (and comment) on an article about the violence in Brazil's biggest city and state ( http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/f...u247.shtml )

I am glad that the Canadian has clarified his opinion about Brazil but I still think he is wrong about Brazil. He has the right to think Brazil is a bad investment, but the numbers say otherwise. In 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 Brazil received in FDI 26 billion, 26 billion, 30 billion and 24 billion (dollars) respectively (http://www.gwu.edu/~ibi/Statis...stment.pdf).

The level of violence was still very high then but investments continued to arrive in Brazil because investors only care about profits. Do not get me wrong, violence is very high in Brazil but the single biggest problem in Brazil is the economy that has not been able to grow in a very long time. And when it does grow it is just above population growth.
But my Canadian friend, let me say you are right, the most important thing in a country is to look at the GDP per capita. I admit Brazil's is low but see the biggest difference between our two countries is that Brazil still posses the potential to become a dominant force in the world unlike Canada. Brazil has the landmass and a large domestic market unlike Canada. Go read about all about it, the future belongs to Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa (BRICS). (http://www.gs.com/insight/research/reports/99.pdf)

I am sorry that I believe Goldman Sachs over an angry Canadian who should in fact stay away from the third world because well its too violent and according to him, we should be receiving investments in bikini's! haha...

In response to such stupid ideas, I am proud that my hometown is Sao Jose dos Campos (Sao Paulo). That's right, it is home to Embaer, the fourth-largest aviation company in the world and is constantly kicking the s**t out of Bombardier, it makes me happy!

Lastly, don't worry about me finding my dick. If I ever have a problem I will just call your wife. I am sure she will not mind helping me insert my big young Brazilian dick in any hole she chooses!

Okay that is great, Brazil has received some foreign investment (as have most third world counties) over the past few years. What I would like to know is how well have these investments payed off, if at all?

Secondly: You really need to brush up on your geography my friend, because if you don't know Canada is the second lagrest country in the world (IN TERMS OF LAND MASS)? As well, Canada also possess' the majority of the world's fresh water supply (the most vital natural resoure on the planet). As well, the country already has an up to date high tech sector including every modern amenity known to man

Also, you have greatly exaggerated, as well as far exceeded any layman's authority by presumming Brazil will become a first world power house with in the near future. India and China I must admit have much potential (especially China), but the same cannot be said for Brazil. I am certain you have self imposed your own will into your presentation, and this makes you in my humble opinion, biased.Further more, you have clearly presented false information in regard to Brazil's land mass volume, and are there for a very unreliable source in general..

Give us some credit kid, we are not all as stupid and gullible as you might have yourself beleave. "This coming from your own peer, lil' man."

Bikinis bikinis bikinis!!

What in the world would make you think I had a wife???? f**king idiot.

If Brazil has received so much investment over the past few years then why hasen't the economy grown at all??? Also I notice that investment levels seemed to drop with every passing year, as well, you did not care to mention Brazil's economic investment levels for the past four years, why was that??? I beleave this all comes as a direct result of your own biased nature. You have obviously attempted to miss lead this thread, as well as miss information the people in general (regardless of how second rate your attempts).

"You are a shining example of Brazilian honesty, keep up the great work my friend."

Mr.20 year old..... I was smarter at three.

Look buddy, Brazil will be passing several G8 nation economies in the next 50 years! Click on the link and read! Goldman Sachs says this not me you f**king c**ksucker! Or should I find that article in French?

I know that Canada is the second largest country in the world but no humans can actually live in the upper half of Canada that makes up at least half of the total landmass. There are more people living in the state of Sao Paulo than in all of Canada! Hahaha, dude, if there were only 35 or so million Brazilians, we would be in the first world too but we in fact have 182 million Brazilians but dont worry about it our economy is bound to develop.

Let me make a correction,when I was refering to Brazil I was mentioning the fact that Brazil has both a large landmass (5th largest) and a large domestic market (5th largest). See Canada has only the landmass part not the domestic market, (it barely has the landmass considering so few people can actually live in the upper half of Canada!) I know you guys are a little slow up there but maybe one day I will learn French and we can better communicate with eachother.

Ok, so what that my peer is attacking me! I don't give a f**k you old fart, listen to this, he attacks me for being dumb and not spelling correctly the word, "know" but he does not say anything when you spell the word, "beleave"? Dude forget it, ESL won't even be able to save your sorry ass. Oh by the way when Quebec tries to seperate again from Canada (and they will try again) make sure you enlist in the army to stop them! And if you are French living in Quebec I feel bad for you that you don't have your own indepedent country!

I am sorry to say this but if you compare the political system of Brazil, India, Russia and China.... Brazil clearly has the strongest democratic system among them. Look Russia has no opposition party and the government allies support whatever Putin says. Also, China's economy is growing very fast but the politicial system is still communist and it can bring down the entire house. We shall see where they will be in 40 years! India is a democracy but lets no even begin to talk about how complicated nor how many parties exist in Indian nor how much poverty or GDP per capita exists in India, China or Russia?

Tomorrow, when I wake up I will waste my time responding to your comment about Brazil's foreign investment....
For the record, I never said I knew everything about Brazil. I am confident that I know more about Brazil than you....I am sure there are thousands of people on this website that know more than I do!

By on a lighter note, I am sorry I assumed you were married. I assumed that you were married because you seemed so bitter! I was wrong to make such accusations about you. I am truly sorry.
Put away the age jokes about my age who cares about my age, if I wanted too I could have lied and said that I was 40 but I have nothing to hide

He he, yeah, you mention your age when you think you're going to get somewhere with some woman on the message board…You are such a loser, Bernie BlueBalls.

Forget about Bernie BlueBalls, man. He's an illiterate mouth-breather. Dumber than a post.

Lets try to understand why FDI in Brazil has fallen since 2000.
1.) US economic slowdown in 2001
2.) Argentina enters its economic depression (one of Brazil's largest trading partners)
3.) Actually in 2004 they figures look like they are improving compared to 2003.
4.) 2002, the global market was scared of Lula and FDI left Brazil for no apparent reason.
5.)FDI all around the world has slowed down, but the Chinese economy has not because their economy has a 36 percent savings rate (no need for foreign investment) and they have not openned up their economy to the global market as fast as other countries. They still use capital controls and a fixed currency regime (which the US government has lobbied to change).
6.) Also FDI worldwide has slowed due to Sept. 11th and the continued fight on the war on terror since the US is in need of all the investments they can get in order to cover their huge budget and trade deficits....

Bernie BlueBalls,
You may have been smart for a three year old, but the rest of the class quickly left you behind. What an illiterate buffoon!

Oh, yes, It's Bernie the "Quotation Guy." He's "smart." We "love" that guy! "Bernie is a real loon," he said to himself.

Hey, Bernie. How's it going? I wonderd where you went off to. "Did you forget about me?"

Well, I've got to go now…Don't forget to write back! ! !

Your such a dumb-ass that it hurts but this is my last post tonight...
WHY if Brazil has received so much investment that its economy did not grow? Thats your question, I can answer that quite simply.
1,) In order to end inflation the Real Plan created in 1994 made the Real equal to the value of the dollar. In order to maintain such a value that domestic interest rates had to stay very high.
2.) The currency was equal to the dollar until roughly Jan. 1999 when the Central Bank floated the currency.
3.) During the years of high interest rates Brazil also cut import tariffs in order to keep prices lower helping to keep inflation in check!
4.) The affects of high interest rates sent Brazil's debt from roughly 100 billion dollars to 325 billion by 1998. Dude, have you not read the article posted in www.brazzil.com!
Well on top of that the budget deficit grew because the government had to continue to service Brazil's debt. Also the pension system deficit grew very large indeed. So, as Malan said the FDI was mainly used to cover Brazil's current-account deficit, which was negative since Brazil was largely importing products with the overvalued currency. Today, Brazil's economy is growing because the market decides the value of the currency and exports are still growing. Furlan expects the export this year to be around 112 billion dollars! The surplus in the trade balance is likely over 35 billion dollars!
So with the higher debt and more money to service the debt and to cover the pension deficit Brazil increased taxes from roughly 24 percent of the GDP to 36 percent (some say higher) so when you add it all up, higher interest rates with higher taxes can not equal large economic growth. Not to mention that when something happens in Brazil that the market does not like capital flows freely out of Brazil.
Also let me add that a lot of the capital entering Brazil is also money being loaned to Brazil's govt to pay back her debt which by the way is the largest in the developing world!
So Bernie BlueBalls, t-bag my harry nuts you 50 year old cunt....

Holy s**t!! Step away from the computer for a hour, come back and the place is swarming with retards who think they know better...

"Re: Your a dumb ass": Hay buddy, you made the errors not me, you are the illiterate moron (Your back tracking only solidifies your stupidy)!! As well, I am very glad to hear that you actually enjoy living in a over crowded hell hole, I hope you enjoy your rampant poverty and overwhelming crime rate, it's going to stay that way. Good luck to you my friend, and try not to get shot on your way out of the house!!

Further more, If my three investment options were to inclued Russia, China or Brazil, I would definatly go with China everytime!!!!! As I'm sure would most people, so give me a f**king break....Think your so god damn smart, why don't you run off and play some football Pele'..

AS FOR THE COMPLETE RETARD POSTED ABOVE: Grow yourself a brain, and then return to preschool, your are an absolute moron, period....




"Brazilian girl you are so weird.".. I still like you, but your weird...

Weird? Why do you say that?! Well, I thought you were "smart," but I guess I waas wrong! ! ! You're just a FOOL! ! !

Well, I have to go now…Don't bother to write back, a*****e.

hey old dumb ass, where was I backtracking I recently talked about economic growth, i made no references to FDI, and its role in the economy....but you know what stay in the f**king Canada, dont worry about me getting shot you f**king c**k sucker make sure though you keep on eye on your immigrants because Canadians are an endangered species. I hope you can help them find their penises...
DUMB f**kER learn to spell believe correctly, it's not "beleave" you stupid ass Canadian... I am done with you until we meet again you dumb canadian

He is sore because Brazilian Embraer kicked the Canadian Bombardier's butt in every commuter jet market in the world.

Bernie baby...Close your eyes and see the tiny specter of your life float before you like a fragment of fecal matter.

SORE LOSEEEEEERTRRRR....

Good Day.

Bernie stop reading Hitler's work... go get laid and if you dont really have a wife go find youself a man or an animal, they might be able to keep you warm in the Canadian climate

You weren't backtracking. See, Bernie BlueBalls is a complete idiot. He'd argue 2 + 2 = 5 just because he is a burro. So forget about him. He's a mimbo, a dumb nursing student who can't get laid.

I know why Bernie hates brazilians.
He got dumped by a brazilian who got tired of playing with his little wittle white canadian thingie and got replaced for a real man!
Geez, bernie, get over it!

Canada lucked out in the global water sweeps. We are near the top of water-rich nations, trailing only Brazil, Russia and China.

Thanks to the replenishing cycle of rain and evaporation, the amount of water on Earth has remained the same over the past four billion years. Only in this generation has there been concern that we may be ruining our water supply. Of all the water on our planet, 97.5 per cent is sea water and three-quarters of the remaining 2.5 per cent is locked in polar ice caps. The tiny bit left over is drinkable.

Estimates of Canada's supply of fresh water vary from 5.6 per cent to nine per cent to 20 per cent of the world's supply, depending on how one defines "fresh water" – whether it means "available," "usable," or merely "existing." One study says Canada has 20 per cent of the world's fresh water – ranking it at the top – but only nine per cent of "renewable" fresh water.

Whatever the case, Canadians consume 350 litres of water a day per capita, second only to the Americans as the most profligate wasters of water in the world. The average global citizen needs only between 20 and 40 litres of water a day for drinking and sanitation.

It has been said that water will be "the oil of the 21st century," or "liquid gold," and that it will cause wars between nations. Whatever happens with regard to global water, and the environmental, economic and political fallout, Canada will be a major player. Talks have intensified during the past few years on whether Canada should take advantage of its bountiful supply of water by selling it for profit – like gas, oil and timber.

The House of Commons intends to hold televised hearings starting in September 2001 on "freshwater security" to examine the pros and cons of selling Canada's water to other countries. Canada sells bottled water to other countries, but shipments of bulk water are not allowed.

There is also the issue of whether, under the terms of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) and the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), water is a "vital resource" like the air we breathe, or a "commodity" to be sold and traded.

Water as a commodity
Gerry White is an entrepreneur who wants to sell Canada's water to the world and sees no reason why he should be prevented from doing so.

Specifically, he wants to sell water from Gisborne Lake in Newfoundland. The lake is 16 kilometres long and 10 kilometres wide, near the south coast of Newfoundland. White flew over Lake Gisborne one summer day in 1996 and nearly didn't notice it because the water is so clear.

White quickly developed a plan to skim 500,000 cubic metres from Gisborne Lake each week and ship it in bulk to overseas customers. He argued that draining 500,000 cubic metres of water would lower the lake an inch, but this would be replenished naturally within 10 hours.

He also argued it would be a godsend to jobs-poor Newfoundland, especially the small community of Grand Le Pierre, 30 kilometres down the hill on the Atlantic shore. Grand Le Pierre used to be a thriving cod-fishing town, then the cod disappeared and now the unemployment rate is more than 40 per cent.

White convinced the town's mayor, Edward Fizzard, to back the plan. Fizzard imagined a water pipeline from Gisborne Lake, a bottling plant in Grand Le Pierre, work for locals loading tankers to take the water to distant ports.

When environmentalists got wind of this, White's grand plan was scrapped. The environmentalists successfully argued that allowing Gisborne Lake water to be sold in bulk would make Canadian water a "commodity" and thus subject to the terms and conditions of GATT and NAFTA.

The same thing happened two years earlier when the province of Ontario issued a permit to a private company to collect Great Lakes water and ship it in bulk to Asia. The permit was issued to Nova Group, a company in Sault Ste. Marie, allowing it to ship up to 600 million litres of Lake Superior water to Asia by 2002. There was such a public outcry – on both sides of the border – that the permit was withdrawn.

Early in 2001, Roger Grimes, the new premier of Newfoundland, revived the plan to sell water from Gisborne Lake. He has called for a review of Gerry White's Gisborne Lake plan and thinks there is a good chance Newfoundland may go it alone and damn the federal torpedoes. Mayor Fizzard of Grand Le Pierre couldn't be happier. "The water is just running into the Atlantic Ocean, no one is getting one nickel out of it," he told a visiting Toronto Star reporter in May 2001. "Why shouldn't it help us? It just seems like other parts of Canada want to keep Newfoundland down."

"Belongs to everyone and to no one"
Maude Barlow is chair of the Council of Canadians, a citizens’ group with 100,000 members. She is the Joan of Arc of those opposed to the sale of Canadian water.

"There is a common assumption that the world's water supply is huge and infinite," Barlow has said. "This assumption is false. At some time in the near future, water bankruptcy will result."

She cites a United Nations study that says by the year 2025 – less than 25 years – two-thirds of the world will be "water-poor."

"The wars of the future are going to be fought over water," Barlow has declared.

She endorses a 1999 paper from the Canadian Environmental Law Association (CELA) that says: "Water is an essential need, a public trust, not a commodity. It belongs to everyone and to no one." The CELA paper continues:

"Even large-scale water exports cannot possibly satisfy the social and economic needs of distant societies. Water shipped halfway around the world will only be affordable to the privileged and will deepen inequities between rich and poor. International trade in bulk water will allow elites to assure the quality of their own drinking water supplies, while permitting them to ignore the pollution of their local waters and the waste of their water management systems."

Commenting specifically on the Great Lakes Basin, CELA says:

"Changing water levels and flows will have unpredictable and harmful consequences to basin habitat, biodiversity, shorelines, jobs and culture, particularly to First Nations. Lower water levels will mean greater disturbance of highly contaminated sediments in shallow harbours and connecting channels and less dilution of polluted waters."

Barlow maintains that if Newfoundland is allowed to export bulk water, it becomes, ipso facto, a "good" under NAFTA, which would allow any other company in Canada to do the same. "The prime minister can't blame it on the provinces or the Constitution," Barlow says. "The federal government has jurisdiction over trade and could ban (water) exports tomorrow. Sadly, Jean Chrétien doesn't seem prepared to do that."

After reading all the posted messages after this article i concur: the problem with Brazil is that it is full of Brazilians!

I don't hate Brazilians, I just now beleave you are all complete dicks. Quick to insult, and then sink to the lowest common denominator.

Also, what would make you beleave I'm white? Example, it is not uncommon for me to come across messages such as this: "you are a small dicked white Canadian, or, you are a white pink dicked, trailer trash, spam eating piece of garabage ect." and other insults which seem to follow these same guidelines, attached to many posts adressed to myself. How very charming indeed! In fact, one poster had even gone so far as to lable me a "white Canadian igloo head" before attempting to dazzle me with his unwavering brilliance. Well, I would like to clear the air once and for all, I am not white I am mixed. Also, I am saddened that anybody could pressume something as superficial as another's race without ever having met that person; but then again I'm not surprised, considering this website, as well as it's many posters.


Re: I wasn't back tracking: You were'nt Back tracking you say, ha?" Give everybody some credit "lil' man," you obviously live in a world of denile.You had attempted to put forth false information in an earlier post, and then attempted to restate that information in a latter post, as though your errors were to have been quickly forgotten. What makes me very curious about your character is the fact that you could openly apologized for many or these errors before restating them, but then, later claim that you had made no such errors (or had not back tracked. In other words). You obviously have some issues. Brazilian girl, you also have some issues.....YOU ARE CRAZY!


This sites is terrible and I could be doing far better things with my time." I will likely not be returning."

Ahhh…promises, promises…”I will likely not be returning.”

On your way out, don’t let the door hit you where the good ol’ lord split you!

keol

PS: Learn from your parents mistake and use birth control... DON'T BREED!

Bernie, you've have got some of the issues buddy. You claim about people making assumptions about your race but then there you are calling Brazilian girl crazy.
Dont come back to the website when clearly you do not understand English. First of all, let me state this for the record I said I made mistakes about my ability to spell certain words. Ok, next I tried to answer your question about the Brazilian economy and why it did not grow. In my attempted explanation, which is clearly my opinion I did not make any direct references to FDI investment.
Secondly, I tried to make lies about Brazil's FDI is just your bulls**t. Clearly you can't read or do you ever want to state where I lied. Ok, I could have mislead people about the level of investment in Brazil because I could have just stated the total inflow of FDI and not substracted the outflows. But I gave the differences in my post and you just dont like it that I beat you at your own game.
Clearly, I posted a link from the company Goldman Sachs' and where they think the 3rd world countries that includes Brazil will be in the next 50 years! Clearly the only thing you care about is the criminal stories you are probably reading from Globo.
Dont get me wrong though buddy, violence is a problem Brazilians face but your ideas of Brazil's violence is clearly overblown. I lived in many big cities in Brazil, (Salvador, Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro etc.) for a few years and I never saw stray bullets anywhere. But if you wont to hold to those beliefs fine Brazil is better off without people like you.

Most importantly FDI plays a role in the Brazilian economy but your idea that it did not help the Brazilian economy is just wrong. It has helped the economy in terms of promoting more efficiency in the private sector but this did not give the necessary economic burst that people were promised. Why did the economy not grow? Go back to my other posts i tried to explain that. Its a double edged sword almost like a grayish area but since I know you dont like to think too much just leave it for other people to debate.
Because see people on this website don't need to agree with me nor do I assume I know more than them but the difference is that I avoid make blantant assumptions about an entire country or a people!
You think your better than us because your avg richer, and according to the statistics you have the avg person is safer in his or her city. But you know what, nation-states and national economies are dynamic they are rapidly changing. Canada's economy was not great until the 90's when Paul Martin was finance minister and brought down the budget deficit into a budget surplus. The market rewarded Canada and that also gave Canada the boost its economy needed. But the economy has so many factors, other people can point to changes in other sectors of the economy to explain the economic growth. One single item does not do it!
China could be the investment of today's investors but in 3 years that could change to India or Russia or even Brazil.
Look at the rapid economic growth rates throughout Brazil in the 1960's to 1970's it was one of the fastest periods of economic growth in Brazilian history. Since then we have slowed down in terms of economic growth but neither you nor I can ever predict where Brazil will be in 5 years, except that some companies are making predictions of the fuutre and thats needs to be respected because they know more than you and I do.
I know it seems like I am flip-flooping but i view the world under many complex prisms. I am sorry I am unable to communicate to you my ideas more clearly.
One last thing, I give people credit who come here and are willing to debate and fight for their opinions but you my friend are a little confused about some things. Never do I withhold credit from anyone on this website, I just dont give you the credit you deserve because 99 percent of the time you are just bulls**tting (by making crazy assumptions)....plus if anybody here finds my errors and points them out to me I will gladly post that I made an error and that my intention was not to deceive people....so take care and enjoy life because in the end thats what really matters

PS. How can you make a judgement call about Brazilians, by calling them "complete dicks"...You are making an opinion about 182 million Brazilians based on a website....you dont find that odd?

I finded a lot of interesting statements from the readers.
"Rio was voted the frendliest city in the world" By who??Maybe most violent
"Rio is so lovely and beautiful" Take a walk about a block off the beach and see the beauty of abject poverty and despair. You don't help us if you deny the problems exist.
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It is a big joke. I lived in Rio de Janeiro. Nobody talks with you, nobody cares about you. If someone comes to talk, it is a hooker or a person getting information from you.

Rio never more. 4 months was enough.

God bless Canada- nobody else wants it

"God bless Canada- nobody else wants it"

Far more civilized than Brazil could ever hope to be.

Hey Bernie you should'nt give them a name on the site since there are about three pit bulls who will try to rip you a new one reading here!

There is 10 word Annie.

hehehe man/woman.

then there is another lunatic who only wakes up to insult posters.

Yeah, Bernie, shut the f**k up, you moron.

Bernie BlueBalls…weenie extrodiaire.

problem with brasil - too many brasilians live there sort of like france but without any money orclass

Wow. You folks have way too much time on your hands...

I wonder if Mr. Buarque had any idea that his thoughtful article would provoke such a rapid disintegration of Brazilian - Canadian relations.

Perhaps it may now be a good time for the Portuguese to consider renegotiating the Peace of Badajoz, and arrange for France to give Guiana back to Brazil. That's what this is really all about, right?