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Wow that is so incredible. I can see the significance as far as Brazil today. They have to mask education in their band and rap music because the government will crack down on revolts. What do you think?

Well, interesting facts and extremely barbaric.Brazil has manufactured Black lives to be very cheap indeed.

How do Brazilians treat other Blacks who visit this country? Do they treat them the same way? Would they be expected to put up with this backward nonsense?

It seems that nothing has really changed apart from different century but the same mentality.Could it ever change though?

I sure would like to know because I plan to live in Brazil. I have heard a couple of incidents, the usual, followed in malls by security, can't just waltz into the door of a highrise, harassed by the police, all involving American men. But English (American) accent mattered in the cases, they cascaded out of the typecast, which means it wasn't racist, as the people were still black at that point, you see? A desperate, callous reaction to some of the heaviest crime the world has to offer. Crime that must have its roots in this sort of slave revolting.

I don't know if the cycle could ever end though. Violence begets violence. I hope that with education and business it does.

Initially the Brasilians had the right idea: control your slaves. If you don't, you end up with the n****rs that pervade decent society like those in the US. Those people look for every opportunity to "stick it to the man" or receive a handout from the "white man's government". Lesson learned: Don't bend over backward to make amends for atrocities committed by ancestral generations.

The only thing that will change life for these Black Brasilians is to organize, plan, and strategically put a foot deep up into the asses of their oppressors.

Do not accept second class citizenship, and suffer no racist fools!

As regards the US n****rs comment, No comment!

To do anything strategic implies some sort of intelligence. Those of african heritage are inherently lacking in that department. They can run and dance and make a lot of noise, but thinking is not a strong point.

Demeaning another race than your own denotes ignorance. As for the Blacks in the US, they have become victims of themselves and their racist spokespeople..

"they have become victims of themselves and their racist spokespeople.."

You said a mouthful there!

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Well, interesting facts and extremely barbaric.Brazil has manufactured Black lives to be very cheap indeed.

How do Brazilians treat other Blacks who visit this country? Do they treat them the same way? Would they be expected to put up with this backward nonsense?

It seems that nothing has really changed apart from different century but the same mentality.Could it ever change though?
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How ironic... American moral lesson on Racial Relations?

Riiiiight.... This makes Dr. MLKing turn on his grave.

keol

I'm not american.

I am so disappointed to have read ignorance written over these pages on issues of race and intellectuality. God only knows there have been many Black intellectuals in all nationalities that have made major contributions to their respective countries. Conversely, there have been many professional Blacks, Native Americans and others that have sought to make a living by maintaining divisiveness since this is how they keep attention and funding for themselves and their cronies.

All in all, there is always the need to challenge the dominant culture as many have done in the past, through excellence. I am a descendant of a Yoruba maiden who gave birth to a male child, her master’s son in the Puerto Rico of the 1860’s. By the age of 5, he was being sold at the town square and the town priest prevented his sale and the child was made free. Throughout the 20th Century, and to this day, we have a history of public service as judges, educators and administrators.

I am a social worker, musician and folk dancer. I take pride in keeping the memories of our Afro-Caribbean and Brazilian ancestors alive since it is that history that gives the world the desire to enjoy life through our rhythms, our dances and our attitudes towards one another.

Good for you. For all those who typecast blacks as all the same need to get out of Brazil and open your tiny minds?

Brazil should de-colonialize the minds of its blacks & mulatto poor since they were manufactured to be dependent on them and with a bit of luck, they will stop begging and the others can stop complaining.

As for Keol, could you kindly refrain from addressing everyone on this site as an American. I am not an American and neither do I want to be thank you!!!

I'm pretty sure the people who typecasted blacks were from Europe not Brazil.

Anyway if they're less intelligent and less organized, then why is that the black university students who are the first under the quota system have statistically better grades than their white university counterparts already? In spite of the fact that they are statistically less able to afford educational tools such as Vestibular prep and have the racism to contend with such as potential backlash against that very quota system.

I think the quota system could make up for the lag at least partly in skills as a result of slavery. Then that generation will have learned about the situation, ask questions, and have plans in mind for the rest. Ultimately they should pull themselves up without the government, to protect their ways of life and increase morale.

Sorry, you're sure the people who typecast blacks are from Europe, are you sure?

One would have thought that Europeans are more evolved than they are in Brazil or anywhere in South America, surely?

Name one of the main European countries that have an illitaracy rate of 70% and none are as rich in natural resources like Brazil? Are we talking about the same Brazil renowned for its apathy and Rich Fat Cats'? Pleeeeease

Keol-King was not the great man you think. He was a hypocritical, womanizing liar, his name was Michael and not Martin, he was not a reverend and didn't have abona fide PhD. And if he's turning, it's in his grave and not on. Idiot.

If blacks are such a barbaric, ignorant and savage race then why didn't your forefathers spend 5 centuries bringing them out of Africa to work their asses off for your lazy white ancestors? White men had NO problem raping those savage black women and lazy white women had NO problem turning their precious little white infants over to a black savage to be nursed.
If black men were such rapists your forefathers had no problems shipping huge numbers of them to work around their plantations among their virgin pristine white daughters.

And as for intelligence, if white people are so damn smart how is it that "terrorists" can walk up into your countries and blow them up right in front of your stupid faces and you don't know what the f**k is going on? How is is that 12 million illlegals can cross the American borders in broad daylight right in front of your noses and you can't even see them? And your stupid prime ministers and presidents just stare in the tv cameras like fools stuttering about Bin Laden, Bin Laden, Bin Laden - a man that you with all of your superior intelligence and technology cannot even find to this day.

You're a smart people alright. Smart enough to import millions of people you consider savage and inferior into the lands you stole from another savage and inferior people. You are the brilliant ones!

Now you sit on your high horse and bitch and complain about the conditions that YOUR smart assed race created. If you didn't want to deal with such stupid, dumb savages in the first place then you should have spent the last 4 centuries PICKING YOUR OWN f**kING COTTON, TOBACCO AND SUGARCANE. DUH!


The white race controls the world and this is the reason why it is in such a f-cked up state that is in today. You think you are God's gift to humanity yet your countries are being run over by those savage darkies and you can't stop it. S

Say what you will about Martin Luther King. He was more of a man than any of YOUR leaders. The Founding f**king Fathers were nothing but a bunch of hypocritical bastards who slept with women they considered barbaric animals ridden with syphilis but that didn't stop their Godly Christian white asses from sleeping with some she-devil from Africa.

So who's the f**king hypocrite, hypocrite, hypocrite.

And you lazy white people need to stop depending on the 12 million illegals to pick your fruit and do your slave labor. Get off your lazy white asses and do your own dirty work. Stop using people you consider to be the scum of the earth. You white people are so damn smart surely you can figure out how to pick lettuce and grapes can't you?

Stop f**king up the entire world and then turning around and blaming the victims. Your race has controlled this mess for 6 centuries, no wonder the world is going to hell in a handbasket!

Hey did you manage to find Osama Bin Laden yet before he torches another one of your great monuments?

That's a laugh. America is the most violent nation on earth that is why the Iraqi people do not want the US govt in their country. White Americans are the most psychologically maladaptive and violent people the earth has ever known and they PROJECT that violence onto their black citizens who are simply imitating the thuggish behavior of the white citizens.

And now you are doing the same sh-t to the illegals who your greedy corporate presidents freely allow to come to this country as long as they will do the dirty work lazy white people are not going to do. Now the "good white law abiding citizens" of the US complain that these illegals are drug dealers, whores, rapists (the same adjectives used to describe blacks) and are bringing down their good white society.

I SAY BULLs**tTTTT! White people are so DAMN GREEDY that they will use ANYBODY who they can to do their f**king dirty work because they are too damn lazy to do it themselves and then the stupid white middle class complains that "those" people are the scum of the earth while enjoying the fruits of "those" people's labors.

WHITE PEOPLE ARE f**kING INSANE! MAKE UP YOUR f**kING MINDS! If you are sick of your suburan Kleen Korners being overrun by "criminals, rapist, drug dealers, brutes, savages" DO THE f**kING WORK YOUR f**kING SELVES. THAT WAY YOU CAN KEEP YOUR COUNTRIES CLEAN, WHITE AND CRIME FREE!!!!!

But you are so DAMN Smart you and your f**king ancestors should have figured that s**t out centuries ago. DO YOUR OWN f**kING DIRTY s**tTY LABOR. That way you don't have to worry about black men running loose, dicks in hands, trying to rape your clean cunt white daughters.

ITS A f**kING NO-BRAINER!!!!

During the 14th and 15th centuries, European Jews were dominant as shippers, navigators, cartographers and traders, piloting the seas and exploring for the new trade routes and sources of commerce. Their money backed many exploratory forays and their equipment and supplies filled many of the ship's holds. By the time they settled in the New World, they had acquired hundreds of vessels to ferry their goods through the Caribbean and South American settlements and on to Europe. The Jews, in fact, were the largest ship chandlers in the entire Caribbean region and owned warehouse with inventories to outfit the largest sailing vessels and to make ship repairs. It was written of the Curacao traders that "nearly all the navigation ...was in the hands of the Jews.

Sugars was exchanged for kidnapped Africans - an extremely profitable arrangement for the Jews involved in the trade. Slave shipping itself brought an immense return and there was no comparable endeavor for the profiteer. It was generally agreed," says historian Philip S. Foner of the 19th century American trade, "that it was possible to gain almost $175,000 on a single successful voyage, even if this averaged one out of four trips, the reward was worth the risk. This profit potential was readily apparent to the Jews, who concentrated their talents in the shipping trades. According to Rufus Learsi:

"By far the greatest profits from mulatto or quadroon girls was derived from the sale to brothel." write Sean O'Callaghan in his study of international prostitution. 'White men preferred them to their white sisters in the profession, who were mainly 'white trash., 'ignorant, unkempt and ugly. Many quadroon girls, on the other hand, were very beautiful, and did their best to please their customers. The hope in the breast of every quadroon prostitute was that one of her clients might set her up in an appartment as his mistress. As legal slavery came to a close, Black Women remained as the sexually exploited product of Jewish brothel owners. Jews soon thereafter moved into and in, fact, dominated the internation 'White slave trade, "marketing their own and other Caucasian Women to the highest bidders. There are actually only five instances in which documentary evidence indicates cohabitation of Jews with Black Women, says Rabbi Korn, and they are indeed 'only the tip of the iceberg. Undocumented are the Jewish Indian trader's "consorting with red women and begetting children by them, and the intensely sexual plantation life as described by Freyre and others. It is certain that with the buying and selling of Black Women, Jews raped and explioted them with abandon.

The female slave was a sex tool beneath the level of moral consideration. She was an economic good, useful, in addition to her menial labor, for breeding more slaves. To attain that purpose, the master mated her promiscuously according to his breeding plans. The master himself and his sons and other members of his household took turns with her for the increase of the family wealth, as well as for satisfaction of thier extra-marital sex desires. Guest and neighbors too were invited to that luxury.

"Both biblical and rabbinic "law" permitted Jews to own slaves in all ages wherever slavery was in general practice....[L] iving in a society where slavery was an established institution, the Jews could hardly be espected to eliminate it.

Dream on, a*****es

The Black has lazed and fornicated away his share, and is not entitled to s**t.

Now in the US, black children from families with a working father are just as likely to do well in life as white kids, so you whiners shouldn't blame being black (accident of birth) for being n****rs (self-inflicted).

When we can say the same in Brasil, we can claim that we are as racially advanced as the USA. Till then, let's admit that we're just more comfortable with each other here in Brasil.

Look at Africa - the prets are simply closer to the chimpanzees than the people that had the sense to get out of that hell-hole. Get used to it - The Africans can dance, fornicate and eat each other while the Chinese and Europeans eat their lunch, an outcome deserved by both sides. Not because the Chinese and Europeans shed their negritude, after all that is about no more than vitamin D - but because they value education and civilization enough to actually improve the human race. This crap about white racism holding down the darky is indefensible in light of the truth - the the same horrors of slavery endured under whites they endured under blacks, and the worse thing that happened to 20th century Africa was decolonialzation.

The crap about Jews and slavery is largly a myth. Those who spew it are sucking s**t from arab a*****es - I hear it tastes mighty good to a lot of blacks!

Don't get too excited about your futures, my dark friends. The Chinese are gonna buy you from the white man, and they won't be as gentle as whitey. They are also fond of big black eunuchs, so touch your balls for luck every time you see "Made in China" - that way you'll remember what they felt like.

In 1948/1949, the only capitalists that the Chinese didn't execute were the Jews. How does this bode for the Back Man with the power of Israel and China in the world?

Slavery, or sold for spare parts?

"Pick Your Own Cotton & Sugarcane!"
With Arabs and the other prets selling you so cheap, what did you expect. Your own kind sold you so cheaply that it made more sense to buy fresh slaves and let you die after a year or two than to even feed your low value asses. The Portuguese would have gladly sold you back for a modest profit, but the only thing worth less than a black man in the Americas in a black man in Africa - sorry, but no market!

"the Chinese and Europeans shed their negritude, after all that is about no more than vitamin D"

Please someone explain

they turned white!

What is wrong with you people? Why are you all so racist? Black people you might not be black in Brazil. Europeans of Brazil you're not white in America.

They didn't turn white, once you're nonwhite you are nonwhite in America, just ask Michael Jackson. Now it just looks obvious that the person tried to look white.

Yeah who cares what the specifics of slavery were or King's name. The point is it's over and King IS turning in his grave because people are still judging. You guys suck. Humanity is so overrated. You have proven one thing, we would all probably be better off if Dinosaurs still roamed the earth. Oh so civilized we all are, making the comaraderie of damn dogs look good.

The level of racism here is unbelievable, you guy are so hateful.

The legacy of Slavery must be addressed to put things into perspective.

There's no need to be surprised by anything these days, but secrets and lies is deluding mankind.

Africans sold Africans and EUROPEANS sold EUROPEANS. The trade was NOT initially primarily African. If a citizen of the UK was "banished from the British colonies for life" the person was to "submit to permanent slavery" in America which included not only the 13 colonies but Barbados and Jamaica too. Not indentured servitude but PERMANENT BONDAGE! If banished from the British isles (usually for theft or murder or rape) said slave was to board a ship and report to his "master" upon disembarking from the ship. What happened? The intended slave generally stole clothing from and even ID from other passengers and walked by his new master and disappeared into the general population. A good number of Irish slaves were shipped (bound in chains) to Jamaica and usually lasted only one year as opposed to four or five for Africans.

Many slavers required payment in advance of producing a slave and after many slavemasters lost their profits on a white slave, either due to early death or absconding, they decided to stick with African slaves and recoup their investment. Whites banished from the British isles were reduced to indentured servitudes and at the end of their term could seek "citizenship" in the new colonies. The American Deep South consisted primarily of white exiled convicts working alongside African slaves which is where Southern whites obtained their "Southern" accent.

Of course this history of white slavery is largely suppressed in favor of the "corrupt black kings selling their own" into slavery. Yes some Africans did participate but so did some Europeans frequently raiding the countrysides and even cities of Britain, Ireland and Wales in order to profit from this very lucrative trade.

Africans also had an added bonus, being skilled in metallurgy and subtropical agriculture. Before the mid-19th century nobody gave a damn about a slave's "racial" background as long as said slave had the ability to work 17 hour days in deplorable condition and lived long enough (at least 4 years) for the slaveowner to more than recoup and even profit from the purchase.

Once the Chinese take world power in the mid 21st century, their "goodwill" towards white people will fade just as the Europeans "goodwill" started to fade once they gained the ascendancy over the African nations.

It will not be difficult for the Asians (and even the Arabs and other Muslims) to capture the white dominated nations as early as the mid-21st century seeing as how the Caucasian nations are all experiencing massive declines in population, 70% of Americans being over 40 years of age. In another 50 years all of the European dominated nations will be sitting ducks for anyone who wants to gain world power since the vast majority of Caucasians will be sitting in nursing homes wetting their pants and babbling senselessly about nothing including the President and the Prime Ministers of the US, UK and Canada.

Are you trying to justify these abominal crimes which still appear to be affecting these Blacks today even in Brazil? White Slavery does not seem to be currently affecting the Whites or is it? Well excuse me if it does.

Once the Chinese take world power in the mid 21st century, their "goodwill" towards white people will fade just as the Europeans "goodwill" started to fade once they gained the ascendancy over the African nations.

It will not be difficult for the Asians (and even the Arabs and other Muslims) to capture the white dominated nations as early as the mid-21st century seeing as how the Caucasian nations are all experiencing massive declines in population, 70% of Americans being over 40 years of age. In another 50 years all of the European dominated nations will be sitting ducks for anyone who wants to gain world power since the vast majority of Caucasians will be sitting in nursing homes wetting their pants and babbling senselessly about nothing including the President and the Prime Ministers of the US, UK and Canada.

Unfortunately the most dangerous animal is that which is cornered Professor. Blather on all you want Professor Phipps (that is what I am going to start calling you - you know - from Higher Education) but IF the white man falls into too steep of a decline he will simply irradiate the whole world rather than let China rise to ascendancy. You know it and I know it and so do the Chinese. Besides you are seriously overestimating China's power. They are going to be dealing with so many internal problems in the coming years it will make normal upheaval look like child's play. You never mention their devestating environmental problems in your rush to bow down to your new rulers bro!! Building all those cheap goods - she does take a toll on the environment but I'm sure you knew that eh Doc? You also fail to mention China's aging population that has as of yet not benefitted one iota from the current economic run. You are full of s**t and don't think things through before coming in here with your McSermons. Now try and get laid once in awhile "Speaks With Fist in Air"

"Look at Africa - the prets are simply closer to the chimpanzees than the people that had the sense to get out of that hell-hole. Get used to it - The Africans can dance, fornicate and eat each other while the Chinese and Europeans eat their lunch, an outcome deserved by both sides. Not because the Chinese and Europeans shed their negritude, after all that is about no more than vitamin D - but because they value education and civilization enough to actually improve the human race. This crap about white racism holding down the darky is indefensible in light of the truth - the the same horrors of slavery endured under whites they endured under blacks, and the worse thing that happened to 20th century Africa was decolonialzation."

HITLER DIDN'T FINISH THE JOB.

GET OFF THIS BOARD OR ELSE, YOU RETARDED f**kING KIKE. WE ARE SICK OF FIGHTING YOUR f**kING WARS. YOU f**kING HOOKNOSED, UGLY-ASS JEW MONKEY.

Tsk Tsk - that was quite an ugly thing to say. I guess the best response to racism is to respond in kind with - BIG SURPRISE - more racism. Poor fools!

"Look at Africa - the prets are simply closer to the chimpanzees than the people that had the sense to get out of that hell-hole. Get used to it - The Africans can dance, fornicate and eat each other while the Chinese and Europeans eat their lunch, an outcome deserved by both sides. Not because the Chinese and Europeans shed their negritude, after all that is about no more than vitamin D - but because they value education and civilization enough to actually improve the human race. This crap about white racism holding down the darky is indefensible in light of the truth - the the same horrors of slavery endured under whites they endured under blacks, and the worse thing that happened to 20th century Africa was decolonialzation."

Look, dumb-ass, put the crackpipe down.

Stop beating off to your Tarzan videos.

Now, if you'd take a good look at Albania, Russia, East Germany, Paris, Amsterdam, and numerous other places in Europe, they are rotten enough in their own right: neo-Nazis(whom I hope kill you), junkies, prostitution, AIDS, murder, corruption, war, etc., etc. Look at China, with their dirty-ass cities, fascist government and slave-labor factories paying their workers 10 cents an hour to make TVs for honkies. Wow, man. Cool. No n****r could ever be this good, what?

NOT!

Africans are prets and chimpanzees? You have no respect for yourself or anyone else for that matter and besides, do you think Africa will be down for ever so that the likes of you can gloat, with approval ? You may be surprised or even astonished!

Please tell this forum which country should be the top dog, if there is one?

Btw, Africa is a CONTINENT, NOT a country. Are Africans all the same?

Wow! Some of the comments on this topic sure proves that brazil is no"racial democracy" and has never been such.

It's funny that white people are only 8 percent of the worlds population but yet are filled with so much hate and fear. Get off your lazy pig asses and do your own work. Also learn how to get a hard on and f**k your ugly man looking shaved monkey women because your reproduction rates are the lowest in the world. White people seem to have all the traits of sub-humans, only a sub-human mutant can do the inmorale things they have been know to do. Long live the Chinese!

ALL THESE COMMENTS ON THIS SUBJECT AND NONE OF YOU ARE TAKING ACTION.DID YOU NOE THAT BLACK BRAZILIAN IN BRAZIL DONT CONSIDER THEMSELVES BLACK? THEY SAY THEY ARE CHOCOLATE BROWN OR LIGHT SKINNED. I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN BRASIL.AND WHEN I WAS A CHILD I CONSIDERED MYSELFA LIGHT SKINNED CHILD. I WAS NEVER BLACK. I WAS RAISED TO BE IGNORANT. WHEN I MOVED TO THE US WAS WHEN I LEARNED THAT BEING BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL. AND IT SURE IS. HAHA. IM NOT TAKING ACTION IN ANYTHING THAT IS HAPPENING IN BRAZIL BECAUSE I DONT LIVE THERE. BUT AS A BRAZILIAN NATIVE I SEE THE POVERTY. IVE SEEN THE RACISM AND THE PEOPLE ARE "HAPPY" OR SHOULD I SAY FOOLED BY WAT SOCIETY GIVES THEM. MOST ARE JUST HAPPY BECAUSE THEY HAVE PLACE TO LIVE. AND THEY ARE ALL BLACK. THE REVOLUTION HASNT YET OCCURED BECAUSE THEY ARE HAPPY BEING POOR.

It is clear why humans will only end up distroying themselves!

it seems to me this discussion has gone off topic. Gerard Taylor, the author of the book, was talking about the debated theory that capoeira was created to hide martial intentions from slave masters/ non-participants. One side says it was, the other says it wasn't.

Obviously if capoeira was created/evolved without intentions of using it in altercations (as a means of self defense or freedom from slavery), it is a dance and not a martial art, therefore cannot and should not be advertised as such.

After reading this and other posts on this topic, my opinion is that there wre always 2 different purposes/ideals for capoeira: self expression and fighting. I believe this because still today,people are intrigued by capoeira for these 2 main reasons and gravitate towards those purposes. It seems to me that fighting style capoeira was banned and that opened the door for the more artistic side to shine and become more delved into ritual/ceremony/symbolism; thought not devoid of martial movements.

But the historical evidence can be used to prove either side of this debate and it gets us no where. It is irrelevent now because regardless of history or original intentions, Mestre Bimba solidified Capoeira Regional as a fighting art in the 1900's and there are still amazing fighters in Capoeira Angola full of malicia. Plus i see a lot of schools trying to incorporate all the different facets of both Regional (for lack of a better word, but that is a whole new discussion) and Angola Capoeira.

salve e axe'

I would just like to point out that under the American system of race, Brazilian Whites aren't white. Also it is recorded that during World War II the Japanese killed white prisoners of war first or would subject them to the worst punishment. However, that is irrelevant, no matter where you come from or what your ancestry is racism is wrong.

Well anyone who comes from below the border is a mexican to me and should be sent back.That includes brazilians.all you guys do is rob s**t and run back across the border.Even if you didnt do that,we still dont want you in the united states.

I'm africian american, and these comments are the most racist things I've ever read in my life...-_-...Oh well, I guess I won't be taking that trip to brazil afterall.

Are white men actually smarter? NO, they have cheated their way up through the labor of slaves and yes they have established industrialization. But look what is happening to earth because of their SO CALLED advanced technology. GLOBAL WARMING, it hasn't even snowed once this winter, scientists think we are going into the second ice age. Who do we have to thank for all of this: the WHITE MAN! Let me tell you something; AFRICANS AND NATIVES are the smartest people in the world, because unlike the white man we know how to live in harmony with nature: WHITE MAN, PLEASE RETURN TO YOUR CAVES BEFORE YOU DESTROY OUR WORLD!