Brazzil

and that is exactly what I am all the time saying in my forums message.

But then my critics to Mr Buarque is that as an EX Governor, EX Senator and EX Minister, HE is one of the reponsible person for the failure of Brazil....as he his explaining in his article !

He is like a criminal who describes how bad are/were the other criminals.

Very Sad.

Stop waiting for that day to come. The govt didn't care about the black and poor in 1888 what makes you think it cares now?

...Brazilian blacks are parked in the Northeast or in the favelas of the large cities such as S.P, Rio, just to name a few.
And slavery still exist today, despite it was
eliminated in their Constitution. A Constitution written on toilet paper that no one remembers, what was really written in it, so no one will ever serve jail term for still having slaves.

Are Brazilians free in the mind body and soul and this includes the so-called rich elite?

Its a shame that people are still being discriminated on the basis of colour, which is rather backward in 2006.

The Brazilian political machine appears to be set in such a way that it cannot see the true potential of its country or its people which is why slavery and other forms of discrimination still exists today.

Brazil will not move forward until all forms of social inclusion, educational opportunities and infrastructural measures are deployed in these areas of the poor -then Brazil directs its attention from these senseless racial issues into something much more productive which can elevate this nation.

Since Brazil appears to have a very good relationship with China - why can't it take leaf out of China's book on how they are trying to erradicate poverty?

Brazil can never be free until it purges itself from this cancerous mentality.

"Once again, a missed opportunity impeded Brazil from making the advance that is continually postponed, year after year, decade after decade, one century after another."

Of course education was not, is not, and never has been the number 1 priority here in brazil, and unfortunately, until those few families and groups that control brazil no longer do so, it will never be the top priority. It's not in their best interest.....period.

Let's just deport the inhabitants of the favelas to Mozambique and Angola - it's would raise the level of civilization on both sides of the Atlantic.

For Brazil to embrace China's example would require China's social order - this is unachievable without a vast number of executions that most Brazilians would be unable to stomach.
It would also require that the top kleptocrats moderate their thieving, which seems very unlikely.

"Since Brazil appears to have a very good relationship with China - why can't it take leaf out of China's book on how they are trying to erradicate poverty? "

Well, we'll see how long that relationship tends to be classified as "very good". Brazil is already re-nigging on contractual obligations made just a year ago.

And China may be trying to eradicate poverty, but they have a huge task ahead of them, not to mention their record on human rights abuses rivals anyones.

"Since Brazil appears to have a very good relationship with China - why can't it take leaf out of China's book on how they are trying to erradicate poverty? "

The Chinese trying to eat our lunch! We should not be making any deals with them that we do not propose first.

Chinese society is too different from ours for their model to work here.

There are good and bad points about each country's political system but if it works, and its constructive, why not implement it? No one is asking or expecting Brazil to embrace China's idiology , but on the topic of human rights issues. Brazil should examine its own conscience first.

If any country wants to do trade with Brazil which could help in its economic development, then Brazil should go ahead with this whilst it addresses these issues respectively.

Wow, 4 posts in a row that actually make sense!

And the one before that is technically true though racist and unfeasible.

their blacks to Mozambique and Angola.
They want just the opposute just during the time of slavery.

Dont forget that slavery has not been really eliminated TODAY, despite it is in their Constitution for well over 100 years.

But who cares of the Brazilian Constitution and laws ?
Certainly not the Brazilian government and politicians.

Brazil would rather prefer to import more blacks from Africa, put them in slavery to put them in large farms.
Dont forget that by now large Brazilian farmers are struggling with the agricultural prices since the brazilian currency is booming
(noit the economy).
All Brazilian farmers are requesting government help to delay or cancel their debt repayment, which already happened 3 times durint the last decade only !
No doubt that Lula will make a gesture shortly. Elections are in October or November !
And Lula better pays one way or the other...if he wants his own re-election !


Sad, sad, sad, very sad !

problem that happened with the black from the southern States in America.

They move all the North of US in 1920"s.


Did ever walk around 8 miles in Detroit

Ten times the Rocinha Favela for a place to live that the 8 miles or south centra LAl in America.



The problem with this Magazine is that only american living in Suburbia take the time to read theses articules.


If you go around america you will find the same problems(if not worst) here inside America.

"If you go around america you will find the same problems(if not worst) here inside America."


Obviously, you've never been to brazil. And if you have, you never left your tourist-created environment.

I have been to Brazil five times and I agree with you, that person has never been to Brazil. You take Rio, all of those people living in the favelas on those hill with no sanitation,running water, and health care. If there is a school, most people will not be able to pay the fees to attend. Social servies don't exist for the poor as a safety net. It is estimated that seven millions childrens live on the streets.
SCLA, would be a paradise for most Brazilians and many of them are living there now. Rio can't give the people the services that they need because of poor tax collection.

For all of America's wealth she has nearly 50 million people without health insurance. 90% of the American national budget is spent on military weapons so she is no more humanitarian than Brazil.

There should be NO poor in the world's only superpower but there is. Social Services agencies exist only to make money NOT help the poor and downtrodden. I bet those Americans glorifying their own ghettoes wouldn't dare dream of moving into one yet they condemn Brazil's favelas.

For all of your country's wealth she does only slightly better by her poor. America is the ONLY industrialized nation that doesn't even provide subsidized childcare and adequate maternity leave for working mothers so when you add it all up America's humanitarian track record is about as dismal, if not more so given that she is far wealthier, than Brazils.

Do anyone know who I can talk to about the differences between poor and rich in Brasil. I'm a freelance journalist and are doing a feature article about this theme. Leaving 14th april. Contact me on mariaelle@hotmail.com if you have good advices. Thanks!

A Latin American Studies Professor at a local university/college. Brazilian embassy.

first of all, ALL of your statements are completely false.

I only need to address the first one to show your ignorance.

The U.S. fiscal budget for 2005 was 2.4 TRILLION dollars, the defense budget was 401 BILLION, that is 1/6 of the fiscal 2005 budget that was spent on defense, or slightly less than 17%....a little far from your stated 90% wouldn't you say??

When one looks at defense spending in the U.S., or any country, you look at that in relation to the country's GNP, and the U.S. spends approximately 2% of its GNP yearly on defense. Seeing that the U.S. is currently in two wars, it's not drastic. Also seeing that a large number of countries typically spend 1% of their GNP on defense who are NOT in wars.

About american "ghettos", or "the projects" as their called. I've been in MANY, and can tell you, that some are not good, but, some are unbelievable nice. I've been in 2 story apartments with central air and wall to wall carpeting and these were "the projects" in some cities in the state of pennsylvania.Even the ones that are not considered good, appear as mansions when comparing to the worst living conditions in brazil.

You have a point about our healthcare system, a lot needs to be done, everyone needs some kind of coverage, and nearly all americans are asking for this very issue to be addressed. And it will be. But with an unemployment rate of 4%, it is those people that are going without any health coverage whatsoever. But once again, comparing this situation to brazil is nothing. The problem to brazil is not only access to healthcare, which millions do not have, but having health care accessible in physical proximity, not only that, but having competent doctors and a clean "working" enviroment for these "clinics". MANY people die here in brazil every year from staph infections. My best friend here in brazil does business with the hospitals and clinics in a 5 state area in northeast brazil, I've went with him on his rounds, travelled with him for days collecting "fixador", the used liquid they use to develop X-Rays, I've seen the conditions of these "public" hospitals.....let me tell you, many are like seeing pictures in national geographic. It's disgusting, and very sad, not to mention extremely dangerous.

But when you start saying that taking into account the economies of each country, and that the U.S. is worse than brazil in respect to humanitarian programs and efforts, you couldn't be more wrong.

I lived in the U.S. for my first 35 years of life, and have been in brazil the last 10. Brazil has the largest misdistribution of wealth on the planet. When one considers another to be "poor", normally they speak in relation to those that have a home that keeps the rain out and provides protection, food to eat, and the general basics to survive and also access to education. Given those parameters, the U.S. have VERY few poor. Although the U.S. Census bureau in its last census classified 40 million americans as being poor, the poverty line in america is $18,000+ dollars per year for a family of four. Studies and surveys of these 40 million american "poor" showed that over 70% owned their own 3 bedroom home, with 1.5 baths. 80+% had at least one car, and 50% had more than one car. 65% had central air-conditioning. 90% had a color televison, 75% had more than one color tv.

If you would tell the 40 million in brazil that are threatened by hunger, according to brazils own federal gov't. website Fome Zero, or to the estimated 16 million brazilian children that are not in school, or the estimated 8-12 million children living on the streets in brazil, or the millions of brazilians "sem terra" that literally live on the side of highways in tents made out of plastic trash bags and sticks, they would think those "poor" americans are RICH. And to them, they certainly are.

When one takes into account that slave labor is still a problem in brazil, and over the last 2 years "inspections" for this activity has decreased over 25% in respect to the previous 3 years, although reportedly 7,000 more (new) brazilians found themselves in this situation in 2005, prostitution is the ONLY way for approximately 15 million young brazilian girls to make a livable wage, the minimum wage in brazil being 300 reais per month, or approximately $140/month, you have illiteracy rates of an estimated 30% of the population, you have less than 5% of the population of college age attending college(university), you have 2 distinct and completely DIFFERENT REALITIES.

So please, before you start spouting off about the U.S. having a worse humanitarian track record than brazil, educate yourself on both places!

read this;


http://www.brazzil.com/content/view/9570/78/

To the people that said i never been to Brazil.

Yes i have been in Brazil and i also live in this places.

Just a reality check about you "Suburbua people of America"


Katrina !!!!!!!! Remember??


Is just a big joke that someone come here talk about Brazil when we have so manu problems in America.

I guess if you live in your control gate community area you don't have to know what happen iin America

Is keep lying to yourself.

Very sad but true reality of America today

@Suburbia America- Bg joke

You're an idiot. You respond with bulls**t soundbites after the last poster whipped your ass in facts and figures. Now, I'm not an American, nor do I hold them it too high esteem, however, your attempts to compare Brazil with the US are just plain FUTILE.

I suspect you're just another mama's boy, born and raised into a political familia where you've not had a care in the world, nor have traveled in your own country (aside from the social clubs mommy allows you to attend).

THe problems along the road, in plain view, are invisible to you - because like the rest of your social clique, you just choose to ignore them, drink your skol on fridays, and end your night blowing a 100rs on a hooker. Wake up, and look around. For you and your ilk Brazil is a paradise, for the other 80% of the population it is simply a dead end s**thole where simply surviving is the only dream allowed.

In all fairness, Brazil can't do anything about all the social problems that exist in this country because they have to spend a large share of their bugdet to pay off the loans to the mutinational banks. The Brazilian military borrowed most of this money and now the poor have to suffer to pay back these loans back. South Africa with all it's pass problems is spending more money per capital on education and housing. A black child growning up in SA has a better chance of attending school than Brazil.

He said"

"""You're an idiot. You respond with bulls**t soundbites after the last poster whipped your ass in facts and figures. Now, I'm not an American, nor do I hold them it too high esteem, however, your attempts to compare Brazil with the US are just plain FUTILE."""

Very sad Mr SFergus6423
This people have no idea what is going one in America.

I learn early in life that when someone does not have a position to defend he just start to call people name.


Suburbia America- What a joke.

"""""THe problems along the road, in plain view, are invisible to you """"


I guess you are not apart of the 45 million people in America without any kind of medical insruance.

The sad part is most of this people have jobs but can not afford one

Sure ,those people in the gated communities around Chigaco , Ny and LA are really worry about the poor in America.





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What a bunch of stupid f**ks you are!

I went to graduate school in California and travelled all over the USA. I can tell you that welfare cases there live as well as the lower-middle classes here, and that a favela is far worse than any America slum.

Almost any Brazilian with a skill would live better in the USA.

Ethics are better among ordinary people there than here. {Govt. is a different thing altogether} Capable people get ahead in a way that they can't in Brazil.

Note to fellow citizens - if penniless Italians and Syrians can make it here, so can the negos.

"I guess you are not apart of the 45 million people in America without any kind of medical insruance."


Medical Insurance???? LMAO!!! How about FOOD and WATER!!!! 40 MILLION BRAZILIANS ARE THREATENED BY HUNGER EVERY DAY!!!!


Medical insurance, that problem is one that brazil has quite a road to hoe before it begins to worry about medical insurance!


Have to love these people...he can't even write legible english, he appears as if he's literally crazy.

And for the poster that thinks, or anyone for that matter, that ANY brazilian isn't well aware of what's going on in his country their WRONG....everyone knows the blatent corruption and poverty that exists here, it's just the ones that are in the middle-class with the means to make change, would never dream of risking their "fortunate" situations for the plight of their brethren starving to death, dying of dehydration or a lack of access to suitable drinking water.

Riddle me this, and I really think this very fact I'm ready to state tells it all as for the "condition" and the "mentality" of brazil.

Brazil has TEN PERCENT of the worlds fresh water, or "agua doce", it is the largest reserve of fresh water on the planet.

Now, do you know, that in NO PLACE, NO STATE OR NO CITY in brazil, is it SAFE to drink water from the tap! Did you know that a person can actually DIE from drinking tap water here in brazil.....it happens, not a common occurrence, but it does happen. But it is COMMON for people to get worms and even omeba's from the tap water. ANY gastrointestinal doctor in brazil will tell you to not open your mouth while showering, make certain you dry your dishes, cups, glasses, thoroughly before easting or drinking from them, etc, etc, etc.

Now here's a country with this precious resource sitting in their laps, and they can't even get it into the homes of their people without it being a health-hazard!

You said

"What a bunch of stupid f**ks you are!

I went to graduate school in California and travelled all over the USA. ""


Gee i guess the only thing you learn in Junior College in
California was the word F.....


Sad but the fact that you study in California does not mean nothing.

Again, a poor is poor.

The fact the you compare Poor from Brazil with poor from America does not change the fact the the Poor in America has a very bad life.

I'm sue that the poor in Brazil has a much better life that a poor in Etiopia.

Again you are missing the point my friend.

Do not use pejorative words to make a point.

About the water:

If the water in America is so good why people pay billion of dollars for driking water from private corporation.

In california you have what they call :"hard water"

The water is so bad that you can not even drink.

Plus the PH is so high that it after sometime the metal at you bathroom sink


About the water in Brasil.

Aways drink water from public place.

The problem is the american body is full of antibiotics and the bood does not ffight anything else

Sad but true

I guess this guy that say "Tour America" and live in California never went to the skid row in Downtown L.A

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-lopez16oct16,0,5981036.column?coll=la-home-headlines

Kind funny when you have this kids from Junior College comming to America,renting a car for week and pretend to know the life of poor and sick people in America.

Please give a Break

the above poster...you're an idiot, truly. You have NO CLUE. I lived in the U.S. for my first 35 years, and have lived in Brazil for the last 10, it is NOT SAFE in brazil for ANYONE to drink water from the tap, "agua de pia". Not for americans, not for europeans, and not for brazilians. The next time you talk to a gastrointestinal doctor HERE in brazil, ask him.

You CAN'T compare the poor in brazil to poor in the U.S. The poor in the U.S. aren't starving to death....they are in brazil. The poor in the U.S. have a suitable home to live in, in brazil they do not. The poor in the U.S. have things like cars, lol, in brazil the poor can never dream of owning a car.

You show your ignorance when you talk of "hard water", lol. Nearly ALL water in the U.S. is classified as "hard water". You have hard water, and soft water. Soft water is water that is normally found in areas close to the beach or the coasts. AND, hard water is BETTER than soft water, lol. Jeesh my man, you really have no clue. ANYONE can drink the water from the tap in the U.S. ANYONE, even a brazilian, a mexican, a european, etc, and NOT get sick, that is NOT the case here in Brazil. I've stated the results from studies conducted in another thread about america's so-called "poor". The 40 million americans that the U.S. census bereau classifies as poor is in reality a big joke, the VAST MAJORITY would never be classified as poor here in brazil, for the most-part they would be classified as smack-dab middle class here in brazil.

90% of the American national budget is spent on military weapons so she is no more humanitarian than Brazil.

Patently false and you are an incredibly stupid human being for even trying to get away with that one. The US does spend a bundle but 90% - wake up s**thead! How about those pesky little things we provide like education, roads, social security - YOU R A f**kING MORON!!!

"problem that happened with the black from the southern States in America.

They move all the North of US in 1920"s.


Did ever walk around 8 miles in Detroit

Ten times the Rocinha Favela for a place to live that the 8 miles or south centra LAl in America.



The problem with this Magazine is that only american living in Suburbia take the time to read theses articules.


If you go around america you will find the same problems(if not worst) here inside America. "

And you - I am going to call bulls**t. You are not nor have you ever been to the US. I am sick and tired of having to call out liars on these threads. Were you trying to pass yourself off as American? Horrible bro!!

Amazing how people think that by using pejorative words they will make the their points more clear.




Don't be silly

If you think Brazil is so bad why don't you came back to the US?


You really don't pay attention what you write my friend.


Hard water has a very bad taste-

You Still have to buy water from private places.

Real and funny story

The city of Los angeles spend around 1 million dollars to convince people to drink tap water.At the same time the city was paying around thousands of dollars for employees for Bottle water.



If you wish i can give you the LA Times Link. Just let me know.



About the poor having a good house to live

That is the biggest joke ever.

Remember, we are talking about the poor.

Did you ever went to a aparment gettho in America.??

What about the roaches running around all the time.

Did ever hear of people dying inside of their houses of heat stroke because they can not afford the electric bill.

Because fresh food e so expensive in America ,most poor americans only can afford process food.

Ths create tons of problems of diabetes and obesity.

Parents feel bad about but most say that they can not afford good health food for their kids.



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What a joke











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Hard water still

Sure I'm sure all those people from Hurricane Katrina had tons of food and water.

since from the Start

Please give a break kid

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/HurricaneKatrina/story?id=1101220


Thousands of hurricane survivors who spent hours trapped in or wading through floodwaters likely exposed themselves to a wide range of bacteria and other contaminants.

Microbiologist Paul Pearce found total sewage bacteria in a water sample from in New Orleans' Ninth Ward to be 45,000 times what would be considered safe for swimming in a pond or a lake. The Ninth Ward was one of the city's hardest-hit neighborhoods.

"In terms of total microorganisms in floodwater, this is about as bad as it can get," Pearce told ABC News. Pearce also found 2.2 million parts per unit of human waste bacteria in the floodwater, which is off the charts.

On "Good Morning America," Pearce demonstrated at Nova Biologicals lab in Conroe, Texas, how polluted water glows under a black light. He first sampled normal pond water — the light barely glowing, indicating slight contamination. He then examined the floodwater, which fully lit up, a clear sign that the water was loaded with bacteria, according to Pearce.

Dirty Water Does a Body Bad

The precise extent of the contamination is not yet known. Louisiana's chief environmental officer today said there is no evidence yet that the New Orleans waterways are a toxic wasteland. He acknowledged the presence of fecal matter, fuel, oil and other contaminants, but said testing had not detected traces of truly toxic substances like pesticides and metals. A full analysis is expected in two days.

Nonetheless, officials are advising people in the region to avoid all contact with the trash-laden, brown water flowing through the city.

"The health problems associated with sewage contamination and specifically with these types of organisms can be gastrointestinal problems, dysentery, diarrhea," Pearce said. He also found low levels of what appears to be the bacteria associated with cholera and salmonella.

Pearce stressed that simply coming into contact with the floodwater could be enough to make a person sick. Drinking the water should be out of the question.

However, some said they had little choice but to be exposed to the fetid waters. One woman, who was walking through the water, said anything was better than her time spent living in the Superdome, which had by the end of last week turned into a chaotic location strewn with garbage and human waste that evacuees were desperate to leave.

"If I had a choice to be in the water or in the dome it would be the water," said Connie Craig.

And although food, fresh water and support have started trickling in New Orleans, Pearce fears that the huge amount of sewage contamination may cause problems long after the floodwaters recede.

"Just because the water's gone does not mean the contaminating bacteria are gone," Pearce said.

Dr. Nancy Snyderman contributed this report for Good Morning America.

http://www.pureaquaworld.com/s...age/235357


U.S. drinking water contains more than 2100 toxic chemicals that can cause cancer.
- Ralph Nader Research Institute

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The causes of tap water contamination are many, ranging from agricultural runoff to improper use of household chemicals and everything in between. Few of us realize the extent or impact of these low level synthetic chemicals in the water we use. While the standard use in our society of over 80‚000 different synthetic chemicals has offered added convenience and productivity in our lives‚ it has also come at a tremendous price... drastic increases in degenerative disease.

In the early 1900s‚ before chlorine‚ pesticides‚ herbicides and the tens of thousands of other chemicals that we are exposed to every day‚ the average American had a 1 in 50 chance of getting cancer‚ today 1 in 3 can expect to get cancer in their lifetime‚ 1 in every 2 males.

Our use of man-made chemicals has become so extreme that we can now find traces of these low level SOCs (synthetic organic chemicals) in virtually every public water supply around the world. A recent report by the Ralph Nader Study Group‚ after reviewing over 10‚000 documents acquired through the Freedom Of Information Act‚ confirmed that "U.S. drinking water contains more than 2100 toxic chemicals that can cause cancer."

We've learned that any chemical we use in our society, will eventually wind up in our water supplies. There is no "new" water! Our planet re-uses the same water over and over. And as our use of SOCs increases, so does the toxicity of our water. Earth's natural filtration process is not effective at removing these toxic SOCs, nor is municipal water treatment. Industry, agriculture and individuals all contribute to the problem. Many of the contaminants found in water can be traced back to improper or excessive use of ordinary compounds like lawn chemicals‚ gasoline, drycleaning solvents and cleaning products.

Once we realize that everything that goes down the drain‚ on our lawns‚ on our agricultural fields or into the environment by any means eventually winds up in the water we drink‚ we begin to see just how vunerable our water supplies really are.

Our municipal water treatment facilities do not remove SOCs and typically only consist of sand bed filtration and disinfection‚ much like a standard swimming pool filter. For the most part‚ today‘s water treatment facilities are much the same as they were at the turn of the century, filter out the visable particles and add bleach!

"Drinking water plants are old and out of date‚ and water supplies are increasingly threatened by and contaminated by chemicals and microorganisms."
- Natural Resources Defense Council.

"The way we guarantee safe drinking water is broken and needs to be fixed."
- Carol Browner‚ U.S. EPA Chief.

One of America‘s leading authorities on water contamination‚ Dr. David Ozonoff of the Boston University Of Public Health states‚ "the risk of disease associated with public drinking water has passed from the theoretical to the real."

Many illnesses that in the past could not be linked to a probable cause have now been linked to toxins in our drinking water.
"While levels of these carcenogens (SOCs) in drinking water are low, it is precisely these low levels that carcenogenists belive to be responsible for the majority of human cancers in the U.S."
- U.S. Council On Environmental Quality

The use of pesticides and herbicides has become so excessive that they are now commonly found in household tap water and bottled water with alarming frequency.

A 1998 study of 29 major U.S. cities by the Environmental Working Group found that all 29 cities had traces of at least one weed killer in the drinking water. The report titled "Weed Killers By The Glass" went on to say that "Millions of Americans are routinely exposed to one or more pesticides in a single glass of tap water."

These first ever "tap water testings" found two or more pesticides in the drinking water of 27 of the 29 cities‚ three or more in 24 cities‚ four or more in 21 cities‚ five or more in 18 cities‚ six or more in 13 cities and seven or more pesticides in the tap water of 5 major U.S. cities. In Fort Wayne‚ Indiana‚ nine different pesticides were found in a single glass of tap water!

As a startling side note‚ it was reported that in these 29 cities‚ 45‚000 infants drank formula mixed with tap water containing weed killers and that "over half of these infants were swallowing 4 to 9 chemicals in every bottle!"

The tragic health effects of consuming these highly toxic chemicals are magnified many times over for small children because their systems are more sensitive and still developing. Small children also consume a much larger volume of fluids per pound of body weight and therefore get a bigger dose‚ yet none of these factors are considered when the EPA‘s maximum contaminant levels are set. The National Academy of Sciences issued a report in 1993 on this subject and stated "children are not little adults" and their bodies are less developed and simply incapable of detoxifying certain harmful compounds."

Another major flaw in the estimated risks of chemicals in our drinking water is the false assumption that only that one chemical is being consumed. The regulations are set based on what is assumed safe for a 175 pound adult drinking water with only one chemical present and does not take into account the combined toxicity of two or more chemicals.

In a 1995 Science Advisory Report to the EPA‚ it was stated that "when two or more of these contaminants combine in our water the potency may be increased by as much as 1000 times!"

It has been shown that areas with the highest levels of these SOCs in their water supplies also have the highest incidence of cancer.

Jacquelyn Warren of the Natural Resources Defense Council commented on this subject‚ "The one thing we know for sure about toxins in our drinking water is that the more we look the more we find."

So many people died of cancer in America.

If you ad the bad process food plus the water you have a jackpot of cancer at your door.

dude...you don't have to worry about any of that, you're simply going to die of stupidity.

keep lying to yourself.

10 times eating food or drinking water in Brazil that in America

Read the text above and you may learn something new


By LINDA A. JOHNSON, Associated Press Writer
Wed Apr 12, 11:10 PM ET



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At KFCs in Poland and Hungary, a large hot wings-and-fries order had 19 grams of trans fats or more, versus 5.5 grams for wings and fried potato wedges in New York. But in Germany, Russia, Denmark and Aberdeen, Scotland, the same meal had less than a gram.

A large order of french fries at a New York City McDonald's contained 30 percent more trans fat than the same order from an Atlanta McDonald's.

Partially hydrogenated vegetable oil is cooking oil that has been injected with hydrogen to harden it and give it a longer shelf life. Switching to liquid vegetable oils such as canola, corn, olive or soy eliminates the trans fat, as has been done in Denmark under a 2004 law allowing only a minuscule amount of trans fat in foods.

Trans fat raises bad cholesterol and lowers good cholesterol. Eating just 5 grams of it per day increases the risk of heart disease 25 percent, research shows.

"Per gram, it is more harmful than any other kind of fat," Stender said. "It's a metabolic poison."

McDonald's said it "continues to work diligently on ways to reduce" trans fat in its fries. It said that most of its oils come from local suppliers, based on consumer preference, and that the oil used in the United States is different from that in Europe and elsewhere.

Stender and other experts said many restaurants still use partially hydrogenated vegetable oil to save money because it does not spoil and can be used over and over for frying.

Michael F. Jacobson, executive director of the Center for Science in the Public Interest, said his group has petitioned the Food and Drug Administration to drastically limit the use of trans fats and require restaurant menus to note foods containing trans fat. He said FDA is still reviewing the petitions, "even though they agree it's killing thousands of people a year."

In January, the FDA began requiring package labels to list trans fat content. KFC and McDonald's both list the trans fat and other components of their foods on their Web sites and in stores, on such things as tray liners and brochures.

Jacobsen's center estimated a few years ago that trans fats prematurely killed 30,000 to 75,000 Americans a year. That number has probably fallen, he said, because many packaged-food companies have switched to healthier oils.

But many processed foods — including pies, tortilla chips, margarine and microwave popcorn — still contain partially hydrogenated vegetable oil.

Harvard School of Public Health cardiologist Dr. Dariush Mozaffarian and colleagues wrote in the journal that while it may be hard for restaurants and food manufacturers to eliminate partially hydrogenated oil, other countries have replaced it with unsaturated fats without raising costs or reducing quality.

Doing so might prevent thousands of heart attacks and strokes each year in the United States, they wrote.

Jacobsen said that the cost might be a penny per order of fries or nuggets, and that the taste difference would be minimal.

"I don't think people would mind paying a penny more or getting one less french fry to avoid heart disease," he said.

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On the Net: http://www.nejm.org

Harvard School of Public Health site on trans fats: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nu...sfats.html

American Heart Association site on trans fats: http://www.americanheart.org/p...tifier4776

LOL...what to f**k does fastfood have to do with the topic at hand. We were talking about access to suitable drinking water. Water that won't give someone WORMS right after they consume it!!! It hasn't happened in the states in 50 years!!! But IS the very situation today in brazil!!!! With all that "agua doce" you still can't drink a glass of water from the sink without risk of getting sick!

Not only that, but 90%, NINETY PERCENT of UNTREATED RAW SERWERAGE here in brazil gets dumped directly into rivers, lakes, and the ocean!!! And, that's where they have sewerage systems!! There is still a LARGE percentage of areas in brazil WITHOUT SEWERAGE SYSTEMS OF ANY KIND......THEY LITERALLY PUT THE s**t AND PISS IN A HOLE DUG IN THE EARTH!

YOU REAP WHAT YOU SEW MY FRIEND!

QUOTE:


"The city of Los angeles spend around 1 million dollars to convince people to drink tap water.At the same time the city was paying around thousands of dollars for employees for Bottle water."

Yep, you see that this kind of thing is NEWS in america, it makes the newspapers!!!

Here in brazil, if you put this on Globo, or in the newspaper, people would be like, "so what, that's f**king normal!!!"

A 1998 study of 29 major U.S. cities by the Environmental Working Group found that all 29 cities had traces of at least one weed killer in the drinking water. The report titled "Weed Killers By The Glass" went on to say that "Millions of Americans are routinely exposed to one or more pesticides in a single glass of tap water."

These first ever "tap water testings" found two or more pesticides in the drinking water of 27 of the 29 cities‚ three or more in 24 cities‚ four or more in 21 cities‚ five or more in 18 cities‚ six or more in 13 cities and seven or more pesticides in the tap water of 5 major U.S. cities. In Fort Wayne‚ Indiana‚ nine different pesticides were found in a single glass of tap water!

No wonder so many cases of cancer in America

well I'm sure you know that the average brazilian, the ones that can afford it anyhow, and with a little bit of education, take a medicine on at least a once a year basis, to kill worms AND omebeas!!!!

People certainly don't do that in the U.S.

And if you like, and if brazil keeps statistics, I'm sure one can find MANY stories about TAP water, agua de pia, KILLING brazilians or those that drank it!!

answer one question....is it "normal" for brazilians to drink tap water in brazil???? Hell no!!! The ONLY people that drink tap water are the very POOR. Now, is it normal to drink tap water in the states....of course it is, and has been ever since I was born, 40 years ago!

well of course you have people that buy bottled water. But the VAST majority also drink water right from the sink in their homes. This has been happening my entire life, and nothing has changed.

I'm speaking from experience.....are you?

If tap water is so good in America why people pay around 8 billion dollars for bottle water??



the number don't lie people

People in America do not trust tap water

Bottled water sales.
The U.S. bottled water market wholesale sales in 2003 - $8.3 billion.

The Top 10 Bottle Water Brands in the US by wholesale dollar sales amd
market share.
1. Aquafina (PepsiCo) $936 million 11.3 %
2. Dasani (Coca-Cola) $834 million 10 %
3. Poland Spring (Nestle Waters) $649 million 7.8%
4. Arrowhead (Nestle Waters) $546 million 6.6%
5. Deer Park (Nestle Waters) $356 million 4.3%
6. Crystal Geyser (CGWC) $335 million 4%
7. Ozarka (Nestle Waters) $236 million 2.8%
8. ZephyrHills (Nestle Waters) $215 million 2.5%
9. Ice Mountain (Nestle Waters) $208 million 1.7%
10. Evian (Coca-Cola/Danone) $145 million 1.7%
(Source Beverage Marketing Corporation.)
http://www.mind-advertising.com/sectors/
sector_softdrinks.htm

This report gives a more detailed analysis of the market and compares
2003 to 2002.
In 2003, the top three bottled water companies in the U.S. were Nestlé
Waters of North America (NWNA), Coca-Cola and Pepsi-Cola. Together
they have 59% of total wholesale dollars.
(Source Beverage Marketing Corporation.)
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:GUEdLpDBIUQJ:
www.bottledwater.org/public/downloads/
Bev_Marketing_2004_Release_04082004.doc+%
22bottled+water"+"top+selling"+dasani+
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