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That is right; our politicians have no idea on how to deal with our social problems. I think in that matter the media should as a whole should come up with a plan. During interviews, the political reporters and political interviewers should ask repeatedly what plans our candidates have for Brazil. They should demand from them far more details.

Two days ago, I was watching CNN reporter asking the Philadelphia mayor what was his plans to resolve a very serious problem concerning the city. She was close to insolence and she was all over the guy. The media in the USA does not let things go by unnoticed so easily and they work as political watchdogs in many occasions.

Our media should act the same, bombard the politicians with though questions and let the people see their reactions.

I am not saying that the media is the cure for all evils we have but definitely, they should expose much more those political clowns.

We depend on the press a lot more than people can realize.

yeah....right. Lets wait for the media to solve our problems.

Ten years, 20 years, thirty, it doesn't matter; corruption is so ingrained into Brazil that it wouldn't be Brazil without it. Yeah, it's hopeless.

That is not what I meant. We should wait for nothing to fix our country and as I said, the media is not the cure for our problems but they can inform more.

The media definetely has a huge role. Who is the everyday contact between people and the politcians? Without the media most of the political things would be unoticed. Wide exposure of political debates, for example, between candidates are possible thanks to the media.

I think that the media could in our country increase exposure of all politicians by asking more questions and though ones. Let them sweat.

We have a profet among us!

The media is the worst "Bias" element of Brazilian Life.


Low jornalism-

If you notice the first put a headline pretending to know the true

Later inside of the text they post some """Facts"" the someone,somehow,someday

They never really take the time to do a real investigation.


Brazilian media.

NEWS FOR THE EDUCATED FOOL



They love ad gasoline to a fire. They do not care about doing a better Brazil

I know, I know- he's from the United Sucks of America...but I think he could a lot of good for Brazil. He's very concerned about the environment, so he could further boost the country's progress in becoming self-suffucient in cleaner energy. Further, he's been know to agressively address social issues, so maybe he could clean up the favelas! Gore for president of Brazil in '06! If you can't cut in the USA, head to the land of the Incas!

And where is the land of the INCAS???

You live in South America and you don't know who the INCAS are? Shame on you and your kinfolk.

I'll be nice and give you a history lesson...and by give you a lesson I mean I'll lazily cut and paste someone else's work here for you to see:


"The Incas were a distinct people with a distinct language living in a highland center, Cuzco. They were an ancient people, but had been subject to the regional powers during the entire history of South American urban cultures. They began to expand their influence in the twelfth century and in the early sixteenth century, they exercised control over more territory than any other people had done in South American history. The empire consisted of over one million individuals, spanning a territory stretching from Ecuador to northern Chile.

Unlike the military empires in Central America, the Incas ruled by proxy. After conquering a people, they would incorporate local rulers into their imperial system, generously reward anyone who fought for them, and treated well all those conquered people who cooperated. So, in reality, the Inca "empire," as the invading Spanish called it, was not really an empire. It was more of a confederation of tribes with a single people, the Incas, more or less in control. Each of these tribes was ruled independently by a council of elders; the tribe as a whole gave its allegiance to the ruler, or "Inca." The "Inca" was divine; he was the descendant of the sun-god.
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At its height, the Inca civilization crashed into the European expansion. In 1521, Herman Cortés conquered the Aztecs; this conquest inspired Francisco Pizzarro to invade the Incas in 1531. He only had two hundred soldiers, barely enough to walk the dog. However, he convinced the ruler of the Incas, Atahualpa, to come to a conference at the city of Cajamarca. When Atahualpa arrived, Pizzarro kidnapped him and killed several hundred of his family and followers. Atahualpa tried to ransom himself, but Pizzarro tried to use him as a puppet ruler. When that failed, Pizzarro simply executed him in 1533. Over the next thirty years the Spanish struggled against various insurrections, but, with the help of native allies, they finally gained control of the Inca empire in the 1560's. "

You clearly explained the situation as it is.

Lula being so smart that 5-7 months ago he said that Brazilians will learn to read and write in 35 days, by using a Cuban method !

And as you said, Lula enjoys inaugurating 500 meters of a new road or a new small school ! Or traveling in his new Boeing !
But he is rarely at his office, and when he is, it is to negotiate some backstage corruption !

The problem you face is that the other presidential candiddates are not any better !

In Octobrr you will have to vote for a corrupted candidate or another corrupted man !
Choose between an incompetent candidate and another incompetent candidate.

But then why should anything change for the better...during the next 50 years ?

No political party, no government officials have ever worked for the benefit of the Brazilian society, but just for their own power and wealth !

Afterall it is where there is the biggest country wealth that they are interested :
The government BUDGET ! When there is not enough for them, they simply cut a spending. When still not enough, they cut another spending ! And so on for eternity until there is no more money as it already happened a few times in the past !
Some of your senators have higher salaries and perks than many similar positions in the EU countries ! Government retirees have the best pensions !And all this cos tens of billions and billions. Nothing remains for the society !

As I say all the time, Brazil is a shame to humanity !

Media are not supposed to resolve your problems.
Medias are supposed to expose to the society what would be hidden if not published by them !

Then it is to your society to settle the problemss.
But you dont it it anyway ! Just look at what happened for 12 months for the corruption crisis you had.
Most guilty politicians have absolved by other politicians as guilty as the others !
So much that the vote were secrets. So no one know who voted or not for an expulsion !!!!

Even your justice corrupted to the roots.

So why expect something to change. Lula recognized it clearly : it is cultural. That is what you learn from your youth. This is by now in your way of thinking, IN YOUR GENES ! A way of life, a lifestyle !

When authorities decided to cut the signals of the mobile phones in jails !

They asked to cut the signals in 6 SP jails...ONLY !!!!!

" On Wednesday, the authorities ordered mobile phone operating companies to cut the signal in six state prisons.

According to the Pastoral Carceraria human rights group, the PCC controls practically all the 140 penitentiaries in Brazil's biggest state.

This clearly shows that the SP State and Federal authorities DONT CARE AT ALL OF WHAT HAPPENED !

..the mobile phones were not smuggled into the jail just before the chaos :

Smuggled cell phones are used to keep in contact with families but also to direct criminal operations outside the penitentiary walls -- such as the gangster offensive unleashed in Sao Paulo in the past week.

Godofredo Bittencourt, chief of the anti-organized crime police unit, said the mobile phone has become "deadlier than the gun" in Brazilian prisons.

The wives of two members of the First Command of the Capital (PCC) criminal gang said they had easy telephone contact with their imprisoned husbands until a few days ago.

"Normally they call, a number appears and we know it's from the inside," said one of the women, a 32-year-old, who agreed to speak on the condition of anonymity.

Her husband has spent 12 years behind bars for robbery and murder. She and the other woman, 18, who has the photo of her jailed husband on her mobile phone screen, visit their spouses weekly.

"How often do I speak to him? Every day," she said.

Simple demonstration that in a maximum security prison in Brazil, mobile phones were/are used DAILY without any problems at all !

Yesterday another Sao Paulo paper claimed that at least 69 other gunshot-related deaths remained unexplained. "I am very worried about this idea of killing suspects," Sao Paulo's former security secretary, Jose Afonso da Silva, told the Folha de Sao Paulo. "These suspects could be investigated, arrested and even sentenced ... The population ends up not knowing who they should really be scared of."

Ignacio Cano, a security expert and the author of a study on police executions in Brazil, said he feared a policy of "private revenge" had been implemented. "It is a tragedy for society when you have a police force acting on impulse, out of revenge ... reacting in much the same way as the criminals, with excessive violence."

Mr Cano said it was "extremely easy" for a police officer to escape punishment in such cases.

HOPEFULLY YOUR GOVERNMENT WILL HAVE THE SAME INSISTENCE AND ASK ASK THE SAME DETAILED INVESTIGATION THAN WHEN YOUR JEAN CHARLES DIED DURING THE LONDON BOMBING !

This just shows HOW STUPID AND UNFAIR YOUR GOVERNMENT IS !

I do not live in South America but I am from Brazil (the most bashed country in the world) and I know who the Incas were.

Thank you the history lesson anyway. I always enjoy History.

I was worried that you thought that the Incas were in Brazil, though. That was the reason for my provocative question.

No harm.

brazil will be lawless as long as they have a huge underclass. they will have a huge underclass as long as the cathlic church preachs no birth control.

Once again, I do not expect the media to resolve our problems although they are part of the society and they should participate directly in the process. They should focus in quality interviewing and inform better the people.

Is there an echo in here?

Is that concept so difficult to grasp?

Please understand. To tell us that we have a problem is not a great help. It is like walking to handicapped man and telling him that his leg is missing, for example.

“Wow, thank you! “

Yes, we know. Now, what kind of solution would you propose to us, poor Brazilians? That is the challenge.

Let’s stop babbling and start discussing some possible solutions.

Problems we have:

1) A very poor pool of politicians to choose from so voting is not easy.
2) Voting is effective when people understand what they are doing and many Brazilians would sell their votes for food, for example. They have no idea about the long range consequences of their acts.
3) Brazilians are mostly ignorant about the candidates and their agendas. Actually, in general, most Brazilians are undereducated.
4) In Brazil, they think that if someone can sign his/her name then he/she is ready to vote.

And why the media would not help to mitigate the above problems?

Do you know how many hours our media spend in soup operas or soccer? How many hours in low quality programs? Don’t you understand how much they could help the Brazilians to better make decisions about who is the best candidate for the presidency or governorship, etc, especially when we have a very poor pool of candidates?

First, let me applaud you for an excellent, level-headed response. To be honest, I thought that the Incas dominated Western parts of Brazil, but I knew most of their territory was in the Andes and in current-day Peru. Now I would like a history lesson (seriously): can anyone tell me the indigenous people that lived in Brazil, especially near the Atlantic Ocean, before the Euopeans rampaged through the continent in the 1500's?

Thanks

Nomadic tribes of indians were filmed in the south of Argentina during the 30's. They had been pushed to the south by invading tribes of indians migrating south from as far as Mexico. The battles between the two groups were portrayed on cave walls in Brazil in a linear fashion and very dramatic. Of course, this was several thousand years ago, and if I remember my studies correctly, the tribes of displaced Brazilians were related to the Micro-nesians that originally settled Australia, Japan, and most of the South Pacific. Sorry about my spelling. A French crew filmed the story. This is all from memory, and memory is not always so good anymore. It was an interesting documentary.

Man, i'm a brazilian person and never walk naked on street,
its a great crazy idea to say that.

We are person, like you, we believe in god, aren't monkey or a ET race, WE ARE JUST LIKE YOU

The Brazil is just like any other place, we have some problems but no one walk naked on the streets, you have to know Brazil before to say things like that, its an amazing place.

Ignacio Cano, a security expert and the author of a study on police executions in Brazil, said he feared a policy of "private revenge" had been implemented. "It is a tragedy for society when you have a police force acting on impulse, out of revenge ... reacting in much the same way as the criminals, with excessive violence."

oh,,shut the f**k up.....police should shoot those animals like you shoot mad dogs, tht's what they deserve not a f**kin trial, I hope police would kill more of these animals

during the London bombing. Only one innocent was killed : Jean- Charles !!!!

Dont you remember how angry you were...because that happened in a foreign country ?

Looks like than far more than one innocent has been killed during the SP chaos !
But no problem .... there !

Doesnt anyone find this UNFAIR ???

Shoot the f**king bastards and f**k the NGO's!

Then why dont you f**k him ? You are closer to him than me !

Dont forget to f**k also all your government bastards who even sent government officials in London, so angry they were, and so important it was to find out what happened !

Obviously there wont be any government mission to find out why not only 1 but many innocents were killed in SP !

Brazilian government officials are really f**king bastards !
And the emperor is Lula who always contradicts himself in what he does and say !

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"They all like to play the ostrich, burying their head in the rich American sand, while the storm rages in Brazil."

It is quite ironic that the ex-mayor of sao paulo and candidate for governor, the currrent senator and senate leader who is also a candidate for govrnor, and the ex-president of brazil, were ALL in the U.S. during this situation.....kinda tells ya a lot doesn't it?? Instead of being home, or at a minimum, on holiday in BRASIL, where are they??? The U.S.!

I learned Portuguese well and changed my last name could I be considered Brazilian? I absolutely love Brazil.

"It is quite ironic that the ex-mayor of sao paulo and candidate for governor, the currrent senator and senate leader who is also a candidate for govrnor, and the ex-president of brazil, were ALL in the U.S. during this situation.....kinda tells ya a lot doesn't it?? Instead of being home, or at a minimum, on holiday in BRASIL, where are they??? The U.S.!"

Ironic indeed. And just what the hell were they doing there?

Well, you could rather be considered a Portuguese, Angolan, etc.

I am joking, but you will have to apply for a citizenship after you get your residence card in Brazil. I know some Americans in Brazil who are now Brazilian citizens. No, I do not know why they would choose so but they liked Brazil, they were married there and had Brazilian kids.

In order to live in Brazil you will need more than just love but a huge talent for patience. Things in my country are bureaucratically a killer.

Well, you could rather be considered a Portuguese, Angolan, etc.

I am joking, but you will have to apply for a citizenship after you get your residence card in Brazil. I know some Americans in Brazil who are now Brazilian citizens. No, I do not know why they would choose so but they liked Brazil, they were married there and had Brazilian kids.

In order to live in Brazil you will need more than just love but a huge talent for patience. Things in my country are bureaucratically a killer.

Brazil is called in portuguese " TERRA DO FUTURO" ( the land of the future) right?? They just never tell you who's future,could be your kids, grand kids or great grand kids, HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH

Thanks! I don't suppose I could be Brazilian without applying for citizenship lol?

What wrong with walking around naked?

Live long enough and you will find out!

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""It is quite ironic that the ex-mayor of sao paulo and candidate for governor, the currrent senator and senate leader who is also a candidate for govrnor, and the ex-president of brazil, were ALL in the U.S. during this situation.....kinda tells ya a lot doesn't it?? Instead of being home, or at a minimum, on holiday in BRASIL, where are they??? The U.S.!"

Ironic indeed. And just what the hell were they doing there?"

Taking a bath in civilization?!

All three of those men have lots of cash, needless to say. The U.S. is obviously their country of choice. Look at Fernando Collar, the president that was involved in the corruption scandal in 1991, stole over 200 million dollars, where did he move to after he resigned???

Miami!! And has a 5 million dollar home there by the way!

Why would you think the US would be their country of choice and not Brazil? I would love to live in Brazil.