Nothing new here. Since the Discovery in 1500 Brazil is divided between rich and poor. In the same way, the governments always belonged to the rich, from Brazil Colony to the Empire, from the Old Republic to our days. Incidentally, as during the Getúlio Vargas era, the rich did something for the poor. They did much more for themselves, as a rule, but the inverse situation also occurred during Lula's government: the poor did twice as much for the rich.
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Masochists? written by Eduardo P. Dias,
October 26, 2006
Why is that us. below-the-Equator people LOVE a little dictatorship? How to explain phenomena as Perón, Castro, Chaves... and Lula?
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Who is right ? written by Reality,
October 27, 2006
This article says that Lula neglects the Middle Class and the just preceding article said those who won the most with Lula are the White Collar Workers.....meaning...the Middle Class !
On the other hand, yes it is a real tragedy, that tens of millions of under nourrished Brazilians and those in gents and in hunger dont have enough to eat.....while US$ 50 billions in agricultural products will be exported in 2006 ! It is like if a father with a large vegetable garden who prefers to sell the products and get cash to entertain his mistresses, instead of feeding his children FIRST ! And this father is called LULA, who gives a little sweet candy every month to his children (poorest citizens), so that they are happy to have such a great father.
Yes what is happening is a shame to humanity, under the leadership of a supposed leftist, who lies during his actual election campaign by saying that every Brazilian has by now 3 meals a day....as he promised !
It is so sad also that the millions of poors who dont have a birth certificate, CANNOT BY LAW, get the Bolsa Familia !
Therefore all the Brazilians stats Cannot Be Accurate, and hiding and cheating is a Lula specialty ! The only industry that really shines is corruption....more corruption and ever more corruption.
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... written by a guest,
October 27, 2006
Well, Lula, or any leader of Brazil for that matter, must bring more people into the middle class. They will come from the ranks of the poor. So, I'd say paying attention to the poor (and middle class) is just what is needed.
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If I ever became president written by costinha,
October 27, 2006
My first law would be: FREE BEER FOR EVERYBODY!
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Never ending cycle written by GaryT,
October 28, 2006
Lula will surely win his second term this weekend and once again, placed in power by ingnorance and hopelesness. The problem this time is the pathetic group of candidates who show no leadership qualities or real passion for the Brazilian people and their future...only there own pockets. It will happen again, much of the US$50B generated by agriculture, will be "exported" right to the pockets of the PT in power and their croonies, as sure as the sun will shine in the interior of Sao Paulo State. So Brazil, under Lula's leadership will continue to be corrupted by themselves and the large multi-nationals who continue to buy up huge Brazilian agro buisnesses. On a recent trip to Sao Paulo and RJ on business, I can honestly say, for the first time, Brazilians seemed defeated and demoralized, this from what I have always found to be the most optimistic people on earth.
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... written by alltheway,
October 29, 2006
As we gringos allow the was to go on, Brasilians also allow the war to go on; the war against your own people, the poor. If you wanted, really wanted a different system, you would have it. If the gringos really wanted the IRAQ war to end it would be ended. Everyone laments about the system, BUT you ARE the system, like 59 million people voted for Bush, a similar number will vote for Lula today, so be happy, go to the beach, drink your cerveza, all is well, you got exactly what you voted for, be honest about it, you voted for it, you got it, your system works just like in the U.S. Both countries got exactly what they asked for. What amazes me if the inability to realize if you don't change things your children will have exactly the same or worse,but they will know who to blame, not Lula, but the citizens themselves, Parabens
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Bush Neglects America's Middle Class. He's Playing with Fire written by costinha,
October 29, 2006
and still gets revoted in. Americans are just plain stupid!
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To : alltheway ! written by Reality,
October 29, 2006
You are dead right. People voted for Bush just like people voted for Lula !
The Brazilians however critizes all the time Foreigners and Multi-Nationals for whatever doesnt work in Brazil, but compliment themselves for whatever is going approximately right. Brazilians are criticizing foreign Multi-Nationals in Brazil , but not their own Multi-Nationals firms such as Petrobras exploring oil in foreign countries, and Cia Vale not only buying foreign companies but also producing various minerals in foreign countries ! Where is the common sense ? the same is happening at the WTO. They want a fairer access to agriculture in developed nations, but dont want to provide reciprocity in goods and services outside agriculture ! Where is the common sense ? They want the developed nations to pariticipate in a Fund to preserve the Amazon (while the Amazon belongs to Brazil only) and on the other hand voted law 11.284 allowing deforestation without restriction during the next 60 years ! (see article of today in this same site from an ex Army officer) The reality being that their deforestation goes up or down....depending of the World Grains Prices....ONLY ! Where is the common sense ? Brazil put pressure to developed nations to cancel Bolivia Foreign debts, but are not willing to cancel Bolivia debts due to.....Brazil ! Where is the common sense ? Brazil is against the neo liberalist policies, but want the developed nations to be even more neo liberalists so that Brazil could export more....despite having already a huge trade surplus with the developed nations ! Where is the common sense ? Brazil is favorable to more globalization when it involves their exports.....but quite reluctant when it involves their imports ? Where is the common sense ? Brazil wants the developed nations to reduce tariff barriers but Brazil have themselves far higher tariff barriers on their imports...and not willing to reduce them as much as the developed nations are ready to do ! Where is the common sense ? Brazil has an overall tax rate comparable to developed nations with very high social protections, but are unable and unwilling to to offer the same social protection to their own citizens despite having a similar overall tax rate ! Where is the common sense ? What do they do with all that taxed money going in the Federal/states/municipal budgets ? the answer is clear....they redistribute it legally AND illegally to the elite minority being civil servants and their pensions, politicians through legal attrition and illegal Corruptions, but also by financing projects...provided they get the votes in return at the highest level in the Senate and Congress !
Simply said, everything in Brazil is faked, trunked, corrupted and cheated ! They dream of imposing to the world what they imposed to their own society : INJUSTICE AND UNFAIRNESS !!!!!!
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to Costinha written by alltheway,
October 29, 2006
I think you missed the point, you said the gringos are stupid because they voted him in again, I agree, but what are you saying ? Are the Brasilian's smarter because they are voting Lula in again ?
ps. great note Realty
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... written by hurumph,
October 29, 2006
A strong economy that's been growing at a steady, sustainable pace. Interest rates coming down. Debts paid off. Corrupt politicians being investigated and prosecuted -- finally. Poor families getting some modest support that is severely needed in a country that has perhaps the worst disparity of income in the world. The minimum salary increased. Illegal property development and logging attacked. Gosh, I can see why you Lula haters are so depressed. Please, do us all a favor and shut up, you whining, petit bourgeois, pigs, and annul your votes (a brilliantly daft idea).
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re: hurumph written by grumph,
October 29, 2006
Can you read Portuguese? If you don't then I recommend you learn it and start reading Brazilian daylies and weekly magazines in addition to brazilian history books to acquire a broader view . If you can read them, then I hope you do.While that happens I encourage Lula's governt to be very successful in the best interest OF THE COUNTRY AND ITS PEOPLE. PT's political program seems to be place more tax burden on the old middle class so the ineffcient and delinquent government expenses are paid. I would not perform an irresponsible opposition the same way PT did in the past; their opposition was dishonest and not performed in the best interest of Brazil!
All that you have mentioned are results met by the ACTIVE SOCIETY over all the past struggled years not by a 4 year term government with hundreads of thousands of money diverted thru corruption! Não me venha com chorumelas.
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re: grumph written by hurumph,
October 30, 2006
Sim, eu leio português. Eu li agorihna que o Lula ganho! O povo falou.
The people know that Lula has the best interests of Brazil and its people in mind. All that I mentioned is the result of Lula's good management. You Lula haters should now keep your mouths shut.
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... written by hurumph,
October 30, 2006
Lula ganhou!
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hurumph written by grumph,
October 30, 2006
Corrupt polictians did not get prosecuted, they ALL escaped CPMI do mensalão with all the proofs that came out, people were caught red-handed, they even testified the transactions (valerioduto). All you do is a bad service to brazil repeting PT's lie. PT failed to bar the CPI's wich they tried more than once and succeeded with at least one.
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to hurumph written by grumph,
October 30, 2006
"You Lula haters should now keep your mouths shut."
What PT did not do in FHC's government and Alckmin political program, isn't that correct friend????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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VIVA LULA! written by Tiazuda,
October 30, 2006
I would prefer Bündchen over Alckimin.
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My Friend Hurumph written by Costinha,
October 31, 2006
Don't let your mouth run off until your brain is in gear... You freakin shinola!
Nothing new here. Since the Discovery in 1500 Brazil is divided between rich and poor. In the same way, the governments always belonged to the rich, from Brazil Colony to the Empire, from the Old Republic to our days. Incidentally, as during the Getúlio Vargas era, the rich did something for the poor. They did much more for themselves, as a rule, but the inverse situation also occurred during Lula's government: the poor did twice as much for the rich. 
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