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Brazil's Paradox: Embracing and Hiding Its African Roots PDF Print E-mail
2007 - March 2007
Written by Conor Foley   
Tuesday, 13 March 2007 09:57

Brazilians have a hard time dealing with racism Brazil's President Lula was probably not aware that his US counterpart's surname has a sexual connotation when he suggested on Friday working together to find the "g-spot" in their negotiations. President Bush also seems to have missed the joke, due to a faulty translation, although his Spanish is good enough for him to have understood the explicitly sexual references to his mother that tens of thousands of Brazilian protesters were chanting during his recent visit.

Brazil is the largest Catholic nation in the world, yet Brazilians are remarkably open when they talk about sex.

A few days before Bush arrived in the country Lula gave a speech at an international women's day event in which he said: "Sex is something everybody likes. You can't just stamp on a teen's forehead when it is time to start making sex. Sex is an organic necessity for the human species and for the animal species. Therefore, since we don't have control over this, what we need to do is to educate, at the right time, while they are still children."
 
It is difficult to imagine Bush or Blair using such language, still less President Thabo Mbeki of South Africa or Manmohan Singh, the Prime Minister of India - countries to which Brazil is often compared. Yet it is remarkable how natural such words seem in Brazil. Indeed, next to football and music, sex is one of the things that makes Brazil famous.
 
This is not just about the bikini-floss on the beaches or the stunningly scantily-clad Carnaval queens; although wearing a one-piece bathing suit in Rio would probably feel as uncomfortable for a woman as dressing in a Burka in Jack Straw's constituency office.
 
Sex permeates Brazilian society and plays a part in defining Brazil's national character. In 1933, the Brazilian sociologist Gilberto Freyre published a seminal work, The Master and the Slaves, which argued that the intimate sexual relations between the two had created a society quite different from the slave-owning southern states of Protestant North America or, indeed, other parts of Latin America.
 
Freyre's book caused a sensation at the time. It helped create
a sense of Brazilians "belonging together," which is still very powerful today.
 
Brazil contains a remarkable mixture of races: African, Arab, European and Asian. There are, for example, more Japanese people living in Brazil than anywhere outside of Japan. Yet the country has never suffered from ethnic or communally-based violence and the different racial groups have inter-mingled with a surprising amount of harmony. According to Freyre, this was largely due to the frequency with which they had sex with each other.
 
What separates Brazilian society is class. Brazil was the last country in the world to abolish slavery and it remains today one of the world's most unequal societies. It tends to be the case that the darker the colour of someone's skin, the lower down the social strata he or she is likely to be.

Brazil also suffers the most extraordinary levels of violence. There are, on average, 4,000 homicides a year in Rio, and a study last week showed that in one town of 300,000 inhabitants, over 300 people had been killed in the previous year. The violence is concentrated in poor communities where the victims and perpetrators are very often black.
 
This is one of Brazil's paradoxes, although it takes some time for an outsider to notice. Light-skinned Brazilians tend to be of European origin, often from quite socially-conservative backgrounds, but the culture that they celebrate draws heavily on African roots.

Middle-class Brazilians seem to want to simultaneously embrace this affirmation of self-identity while doing their utmost to insulate themselves from it. This makes for a strange, fascinating and often frustrating society to live in, but maybe that is what makes being in Brazil an affair of the heart.

Conor Foley is a humanitarian aid worker. He currently lives and works in Brazil, and is a research fellow at the Human Rights Law Centre at the University of Nottingham. Conor's books include Combating Torture: a Manual for Judges and Prosecutors (2003), which was published by the Human Rights Centre at the University of Essex and the UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office; and A Guide to Property Law in Afghanistan (2005), which was published by the Norwegian Refugee Council and UNHCR.

This article appeared originally in The Guardian - http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/conor_foley/2007/03/sexy_brazil.html



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Whites Only...
written by Costinha, March 14, 2007
Minorities On Back Of Bus... Colored Water Fountain.... That's an American Domain, The Land of the Fee!

Hehehe
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written by bienchido, March 14, 2007
Contrary to popular belief (thanks to Bush's propaganda machine), Bush does NOT speak Spanish with any degree of fluency. He is able to utter a few short phrases, but he quickly reverts to English, and his grammar and vocabulary are very limited. (His brother Jeb, on the other hand, does speak Spanish very well).
Except that...
written by A brazilian, March 14, 2007
In Brazil people don't speak spanish. A spanish speaker won't be able to understand portuguese and vice-versa because, believe it or not, those are two different languages!
Funny the statement : Brazil was the last country in the world to abolish slavery !!!!
written by ch.c., March 14, 2007
WRONG !
Slavery still exists today in some thirld world African countries.
Therefore it should be said that : Brazil was the last country in the western hemispehere to have abolished slavery !!!!!

But you are excused, once I did the same error !!!! Smile

And concerning the homicide rate, here is a simple statistic, published in an article in this this site around a year ago or so !

"Assuming UK would get an arbitrary number of 1, the USA would get 4 and Brazil 28"
Meaning that there are 4 times more homicides in the USA compared to UK, and Brazil has 28 more homicides than in UK and 6,5 times more than in the USA !
Of course all numbers are per 100'000 capita !

And another statistic since most homicides in Brazil are made by and against youths or yound adults :
50 % of youths deaths in Brazil, aged 15-24, is from violent deaths, namely crimes, killings and murders !!!!

And more funny yet, from an official of Rio tourism : Rio is as safe as every large city in the world !!!!!
Remarkably open to talk about sex ????? Ohhhhhh....yesssssss...of course !!!!
written by ch.c., March 14, 2007
What about children prostitution where Brazil truly excels at and dont really do anything about it ????????

For further references just surf the Net and type.......children prostitution Brazil.

Or read the article below published in this site :
Epidemic of Lolitas in Brazil. Girls as Young as 10 Led into Prostitution.
Written by Francesco Neves
Friday, 21 October 2005
Igarapava, in the interior of the Brazilian southeastern state of São Paulo, is the latest town to be included in a long list of São Paulo municipalities involved in child prostitution.
etc.etc.etc....


Furthermore quite strange the statement :
written by ch.c., March 14, 2007
"It tends to be the case that the darker the colour of someone's skin, the lower down the social strata he or she is likely to be."

How is it different from many racists countries ????? That is exactly what racism is everywhere in the world, INCLUDING IN BRAZIL !!!!!!!!
This is not class, as you may suggest. Otherwise you cant accuse the USA of racism. No doubt that American blacks are far better treated than Brazilians blacks.
And in the USA are not the colored population far in excess than whites...by now, with all the immigration they accepted legally....and the illegal immigration they tolerate ????????

And you forgot to mention that Brazilian whites have open wide the door to white immigrants.....to whiten the population !!!!
Something the USA did not do, specifically to white immigrants !

Tens of articles available in the Net on that subject...of population whitening in Brazil !!!!!!
RE:Funny the statement
written by Walt, March 14, 2007
The use of the word Abolish is use in the legal context. Yes slavery still exists in Sudan, however the slavery insitution there is not sanctioned by law. That is the difference. And besides the are still "forced labor" in Brazil and other parts of the world. So to state it clearly Brazil was the last country to outlaw international slave trading and to the holding of international slaves.
You spend
written by hhh1200, March 14, 2007
alot space on this site focusing on racial s##t. I wonder where your head is.
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written by Edu, March 14, 2007
True that in Brazil we don't speak Spanish, but it is also true that Spanish and Portuguese are sister languages.
"f***********a" (literally, son of a bitch, in portuguese), when pronounced, sounds a lot like "hijo de p**a" (spanish). Thus Bush might very well have understood the message
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written by R. G., March 14, 2007
Yes, brazilians speak portuguese, but spanish and portuguese are very similar. I speak spanish, but don't speak portuguese, yet I can understand a lot of of what is said in portuguese and italian. smilies/cheesy.gif
Conor
written by conor foley, March 14, 2007
Thanks for the comments and, yes, I do kow the difference between Spanish and Portuguese; my point was only that the insult sounds similar in both languages.

There is an interesting debate going on about the nature and extent of racism in Brazil in the thread under the original article, which you can find at the Guardian's website.
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/conor_foley/2007/03/sexy_brazil.html
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written by bo, March 14, 2007
Except that...
written by A brazilian, 2007-03-13 21:52:20

In Brazil people don't speak spanish. A spanish speaker won't be able to understand portuguese and vice-versa because, believe it or not, those are two different languages!



Once again, the idiot shows his intelligence. I know a few spanish words, that's it. But because I speak portuguese fluently, I understand a great deal of spanish when I hear it. I met my ex-wife, who is brazilian, in Mexico, she didn't speak english, I didn't speak portuguese. A local man that I met there communicated for me with her, and would translate back to english. They understood each other.

Abe Razillion, what's this thing you have against being situated in latin america?? Brazil is part of latin america, did you know that? Brazil speaks a latin based language. I've never seen a person so ignorant in my life. You are much worse than any redneck I have ever met from bumf**k West Virginia.
Portuguese and spanish are different languages
written by A brazilian, March 14, 2007
I understand a great deal of spanish


No, you don't. Once upon a time they put an argentinian to speak with brazilians in spanish on TV, all of the brazilians said they could understand a bit of spanish, BUT THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND A SINGLE WORD.

Some part of the spelling may be close, but the pronunciation and the meaning of the words will differ greatly. I studied spanish for some years, it was funny to see the teacher, that was colombian, to massacre brazilians that claimed that could start the course some levels ahead because they could understand some spanish already.

It's very easy to learn for those that already speak portuguese, but without studying you simply can't understand it.
Portuguese versus Spanish
written by Costinha, March 15, 2007
Look, here is my taking: Spanish is a badly spoken Portuguese, OK?

End of story.
Anglo-saxons, get over it or just do us all a favor and commit suicide
written by A brazilian, March 15, 2007
alot space on this site focusing on racial s##t. I wonder where your head is.


Those individuals are obssessed with Africa, in the case they are white, or obssessed with Europe, in the case they are black. I am so sick of listening both sides saying what Brazil is or should be! I have native americans, japanese, arab and people of other origins also in my family and I don't see why I should single out the blacks and call them by some hyphenated (and racist) designation. They are all brazilians.

You sick anglo-saxons should go to Africa, the continent, and promote orgies over there to appease this obssession you seem to have, or look for shrink. I can't believe how sick this people is! If you are unable to live with other individuals in one society without killing each other, then solve it or shut up. Take this racist disease out of my country.

It's no surprise that wherever the british passed they left this disease behind. It must be in their genes, the bigot gene.
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written by Ana P., March 15, 2007
That's how the word "Portunhol" originates from. It is because a lot of Brazilians think they can understand Spanish and even speak it but really can't.smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/cheesy.gif


"One of the best examples in Western history occurred after the Roman Empire collapsed in the 4th Century AD. Latin was the language of that empire. All the Latin speakers in different parts of Europe (Italian Peninsula, Gaul, Iberian Peninsula, Carpathia) became isolated from each other. Their languages evolved along independent paths to give us the modern languages of Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese and Romanian.
Portuguese and Spanish are both romance languages and have a lot of things in common. But they´re not the same. Sometimes a Portuguese speaker can understand a Spanish speaker, but most of the times it doesn´t happen. The same about Spanish speakers understanding Portuguese speakers. A little example is: "Abri a janela muito rápido para jantar" (Portuguese) "Abrí la ventana muy pronto para cenar" (Spanish) "I opened the window very fast so I can have dinner" (English)
At first the Portuguese language can seem difficult to understand, since as one of the Romance languages derived from Latin, one expects it to be close to the resonant rattle of Spanish or the Romantic cadences of Italian. Instead, its closed vowels and shushing consonants sound closer to an Eastern European language. But knowledge of Spanish, Italian, or French does help to decipher the written word.
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written by A brazilian, March 15, 2007
Spanish sounds like a machine gun.
Continuing, to the anglo-saxons
written by A brazilian, March 15, 2007
A suggestion for you anglo-saxons, both black obssessed with Europe or white obssessed with Africa. Find the blackest of all blacks or whitest of all whites prostitute you can find and, depending on your case, and f**k THEM MANY TIMES OVER.

Come on, free yourselves!!! Let it go!!! The self-declared african americans can't stop thinking the world turns around Europe, and apparently europeans can't stop thinking about africans. This can only mean one thing, there must be some sort of attraction!


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written by bo, March 15, 2007
written by A brazilian, 2007-03-14 12:23:27

I understand a great deal of spanish



No, you don't.


Don't tell me what I do or don't understand. Besides being ignorant, you're also very arrogant. Sorry to tell ya, but one of my best american friends speaks spanish FLUENTLY, he also speaks some portuguese, matter of fact, most people think he's from argentina. When I listen to him speak spanish, I then tell him what he said in english. And the vast majority of the time I'm correct. I certainly don't understand everything, far from it, but I understand a lot of what they say. I also watch CNN en español as well as ESPN em español, and understand a great deal.
Bo
written by A brazilian, March 15, 2007
Shut up, you ignorant little idiot. You have absolutely no clue of what you are talking about.
By now we are all familliar with your venting theater
written by Washington, March 15, 2007
A. Brazilian. Hilljack.
I think that we are all aquainted with your little bull-&>@t game of insulting ANYONE and projecting diarhea out of your mouth. Not only are you the dumbest person that I've ever had the displeasure of reading, you make me want to perform abortions.
Alas, I will not do that, because I might abort the person in Brasil, or where ever you are in jail, that may shut that puerile yapper of yours.
Have fun everyone. If you just ignore him, he'll finally go back into his cave. I know WAY to many Brazilians to think that you represent the majority. For the most part they are just like all other people on earth, they don't want too many problems. Too bad nobody can talk about anything that really matters to, or relating to, the Brazilian-human condition around here with ignorant ring leaders like A. Brazilian. You are a piece of crap. Go swallow a knife, Douche bag.

Take it easy,
Washington smilies/grin.gif
Washington, another bigot
written by A brazilian, March 15, 2007
Listen, f**ktard, I am not interested in what you think because if you identify yourself with Bo and his nazi friends then you deserve it.

Enjoy it, retard, this is all for you.
What? Somebody gag A. Brazilian.
written by Washington, March 15, 2007
Yeah, ok
First off, I myself nor anyone else I know is a Nazi. Not only that when have I ever said anything biggoted? By not agreeing with you and thus being called a bigot, does that not make YOU a Nazi? And what hell is your problem anyways with Blacks, thinking that the world revolves around Europe? And Whites around Africa? This has nothing to do with anything! You obviously sit at your MOM"S house smoking crack all day fantasizing about conspiracy theories, whilst calling people Nazis and Racist for no apparent reason. Wash your mouth out with the toilet brush.
"Anglo-saxons, get over it or just do us all a favor and commit suicide
written by A brazilian, 2007-03-15 00:57:08"
EH?
That doesn't even make sense. Why pin the Caucasians with the blame? Is this something that they are?
I don't think that the author had grasped the notion out of thin air, came to his editor and said "HEY! CHECK THIS OUT!"
People have been talking about these issues for years, in the US, Brazil, Mexico and all over the world.
Obviously, you really think that you have everything figured out.

Whatever, I'm not even going to continue this one. You are an absolute moron, I hope that you are unemployed because there is no freaking way that I would trust you to even wipe my ass effectively. Make sure you use condoms. Jesus, sweet Jesus, do not breed.
Happy blacks?
written by Some chick, March 15, 2007
I don't see how blacks can possibly be happy in a place like Brazil. Sure there's a lot of African culture that has a nice mix, but you can appreciate Afro-Brazilian culture from another country. Even if you're middle class and black I don't see it. Blacks aren't as attractive as whites or mixed and they're fatter. I would feel so ugly there, especially if I were old. 70% of the country is under 30, the men will not date anyone over 20, to be a single old fat black lady in Brazil must be a living nightmare.
OK
written by Washington, March 15, 2007
Do you really think that blacks are not as attractive as whites? Elaborate please.

Washington
Washington
written by A brazilian, March 15, 2007
Moron, if you haven't noticed this article is one of many that have been around lately, with all kinds of ridiculous theories about the "reality" of Brazil, the reality that other brazilians and I have debunked many times. My response was a reference to the post that said:

alot space on this site focusing on racial s##t. I wonder where your head is.


From another poster. Yes, some people are getting tired of it, especially for the stupid comments following after.

Nobody is blaming nobody, I was just pointing out the obssession whites and blacks seem to have about it, and the fact that they ignore all other peoples in Brazil, as if this country were made of african and europeans only.

That doesn't even make sense.


That's because you are f**king idiot and you haven't kept up with the articles in here from the past months.

Happy Chicks?
written by Costinha, March 16, 2007
Remember white trailer trash chick.... Once you go black you never go back!
Trailer Trash
written by Ric, March 16, 2007
Is an offensive term to many. And people of all colors live in trailers/manufactured housing. I know you do not wish to offend and as a Braziian, are probably not aware of all the implications. So keep it clean, Costa, and thanx for avoiding the scatology. I knew you could do it.....
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written by Some chick, March 16, 2007
Once you go black you never go back is a lie. I've dated all races but will probably marry white. Do I think blacks are less attractive? No. Does the world? Ask black men. It's clear that to others the answer is yes. ESPECIALLY (I can't emphasize this enough) in Brazil. I don't see how there is happiness for blacks in such a shallow hellhole. They have a popular saying that shows how they feel about various women: blacks for work, mulattas for sex, whites for wives. That means to Brazilian men black girls aren't even bangable. Add the fact that black girls are naturally curvier to an equation of a country that puts a huge emphasis on sex appeal and skinny appearance for string bikinis and samba. Add old age in a young immature land that is 70% under 30 and where 14 year olds act sexy. Fat, dark, old. In Brazil. PURE HELL.
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written by A brazilian, March 16, 2007
Add the fact that black girls are naturally curvier to an equation of a country that puts a huge emphasis on sex appeal and skinny appearance for string bikinis and samba.


Do you really know Brazil? Do you know that curvier women are the preferred? I would say a skinny girl wouldn't make much success in Carnaval, unless she is a famous artist. The right spots with the proper size (bigger ass than americans for sure) is the preferred looks.

About your ideas about which is "prettier", that is completely subjective. And given the number of people of different races living together out of free will (I will make that clear before Ric claims that the miscigenation in Brazil happened because of rape) and the number of girls getting a tan on the beach (if white is "good looking" then why would they worry?) I would say that's entirely a matter of taste.

Some chick
written by A brazilian, March 16, 2007
And before you cite "Gisele Bundchen" as an example of skinny girl, no, she is not a model of beauty in Brazil. Right now she is, because she is famous and rich. Famous and rich are the key words.
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written by Some chick, March 16, 2007
Adriana Lima
Some chick
written by Costinha, March 16, 2007
Do You Dress On Credit And Undresses For Cash? I am willing to bet that your trailer is double wide, right?

Some chick... May the flea that climbed up your a$$ find eternal happiness.

Hehehehe

What do yoy want now, Rickie?
written by Costinha, March 16, 2007
It seems that the porch light is on, but nobody is home... People that quantum-stupid should be f**king quarantined!
Dunno, Costa
written by Ric, March 16, 2007
But I´m pretty sure I don´t want or need anything that you´ve got to offer. Does the word quantum refer to the fact that you are addicted to the physic?
Some chick and those f**king anglo-saxons
written by A brazilian, March 16, 2007
I love when stupid anglo-saxons want to talk about things they don't know about.
...
written by anon, March 16, 2007
About the words written by Conor Foley:from a famous brazilian writer: "There is not a wine that inebriates like the truth..."
O Tempora! O Mores! (about the "oficial language" used by the "leaders" of all contries!
Some things really need to change
written by texasamerican, March 16, 2007
Slavery, was the worse thing the white European ever did to our people as a whole

But now we have become strong and strong, as the years past by

We now share and have control over the market here,


Blacks or Colored Brazilians must learn how to play the white man game to capture his wealth and power and politics
Not to get frustrated about nothing
Use his or her resources around him, to combat racism
See White American needs us
they depend on us for everything ,
we help with their products, and supplies
we invest into the same market they invest in to cummulate more money for ourselves
we put money back into our community

So our black brothers and sisters, must first learn to respect and love on another and continue poplutate

Dont become the Manority
Become the Majority

Open up your own banks and financials institutions
Economiclly make a difference in you community
Follow the example before you to overcome racism

Take over your cities, by becoming leaders and owners

Speak up don't be shy about nothing

Blacks here have learn the white mans game and learn to use it against him

Bush is only one leader, but his not the one who is really calling the shots
Think about it
Food, we tell you when you go to the plate, not otherwise
written by A brazilian, March 16, 2007
Blacks or Colored Brazilians must learn how to play the white man game to capture his wealth and power and politics


Stupid, we are cannibals. It means we are not like you. Continue whining and playing "the game" while you all serve us as food.
Brazil is a hellhole
written by Some chick, March 16, 2007
I love it how Brazilians pretend not to be white when it's convenient when they know they keep mixing out of some pathetic desire to be as white as can be. Why do you think a poor country pays some ugly mutant named Xuxa $100 million dollars? And why black guys with Pele money won't date anyone who's not a blond mutant like her?
Brazil is a racist, sexist hellhole, admit it. The women are like disposable tools there. They're either for just f**king or just cooking food and raising babies. The men could care less about the women. And once you hit 30 if you're a woman you might was well be dead. And if you're darker than a paper bag just forget it, except for during Carnival when they'll gladly use you to spread their multicultural lies.
We are cannibals. A cannibal country.
written by A brazilian, March 17, 2007
No, it's not. You are a racist and sexist piece of s**t in the other hand. Brazilian women has powers beyond any anglo-saxon can dream. Do you see half-naked women in the Carnaval? Yes, that's their power of dropping men's jaw. That along with many others make them free.

Despite of all problems I would choose Brazil any day over an anglo-saxon country. Your obssession in labeling people only reveals the racism that is the very root of your society. For you people are inherently different, you don't try find similarities you could use to connect, first you find differences so you can be segregated!

Try learning about Brazil and the powerful cannibal myth. Once you understand it you will see the anglo-saxon mentality for the disease it is.
Some chick ... Some slut!
written by Costinha, March 17, 2007
Far be it from me to suggest your family is inbreed but about those webbed feet? In the dictionary, under ugly, isn't that your mother? Sorry, I forgot you can't read.

I bet it takes you an hour to cook Minute rice.

Piece & Luv
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written by Some chick, March 17, 2007
"No, it's not. You are a racist and sexist piece of s**t in the other hand. Brazilian women has powers beyond any anglo-saxon can dream. Do you see half-naked women in the Carnaval? Yes, that's their power of dropping men's jaw. That along with many others make them free. "

Yeah but if they are married to one of you a*****es they just have to sit there are watch you stare at and go have sex with diseased naked women. And once they turn 30 their lives are over, because their only power was once a year dancing naked in the Carnival! I don't care if you are cannibals or not, your country could not get any worse. Just let us drop a bomb and turn it into a parking lot.
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written by Some chick, March 17, 2007
Costinha, you might think I'm trash but that still would make me richer than the Brazilian middle class. HA!
Cannibal Myth>?
written by Californian, March 17, 2007
Try learning about Brazil and the powerful cannibal myth. Once you understand it you will see the anglo-saxon mentality for the disease it is.


Cannibal myth? what is this? Hans Staden and the Tupinamba?
Californian
written by A brazilian, March 17, 2007
The other cannibals, stupid.
Cannibal
written by Californian, March 17, 2007
What? ?
Some chick is dummer than what I thought!
written by Costinha, March 17, 2007
Making a fool of yourself is something that you are quite skilled at... Honey, ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever!

Stupid and Ugly is your legacy, american bimbo.
Some chick, a mal comida
written by A brazilian, March 17, 2007
Do you know what is the difference between you and brazilian women? They are gorgeous, they show it and enjoy it, because they can. You can't. A piece of trash like you is barely f**kable up to 30, then it only gets more and more disgusting. That's if you aren't already obese like many around there. Any person that lived in both places can tell the difference between brazilians and anglo-saxons without butt, legs as two sticks and undistinguishable from men when aren't wearing a skirt.

You envy brazilian women. That's what we can see in your raging bigotry. In Brazil a woman like you is known as "mal comida".

You are a bunch of motherf**king sick bastards, full of issues with sex and race. You are a f**king disgrage to humanity, the most backward country in the matters of race. Racism will never end if it's up to americans, because until today they use concepts derived from eugenics and other theories that inspired the Nazi. And the idiots are so obssessed about it that they won't shut up! They will keep talking, whining, crying while people here are just living their lives and being happy WITHOUT this trash. And you are so f**king miserable.

Instead of teaching people about safe sex, distributing condoms and how to prevent diseases, no, the theocracy you live in believe that's better to advice young people to avoid sex. Ridiculous and emblematic of the kind of mentality trash like you have.

Because of motherf**kers like you is that the world ignored the Katrina. You deserved it! Now go eat the s**t you call food, and get obese until you die.

As I said, I choose Brazil any day over any anglo-saxon country (and I lived there already to know). So if you think that things here couldn't get worse, they are still better than there.
Californian
written by A brazilian, March 17, 2007
http://www.antropofagia.com.br...index.html

What I love about Brazil is the ability of this people to absorb things from abroad and make them brazilians. That's why we don't use the racist hyphen for designating brazilians. That's why things like jiu-jitsu, capoeira and samba are considered all brazilian. And that's why our catholicism is a very special one, one that tolerate pagan cults and even a connection between pagan entities and christian one exist.

Probably an anglo-saxon in an uncontrollable impulse of stupidity, as they are bound to, would put fences around each "culture" as way of "being proud of it", and as a consequence they would keep it segregated. The way the KKK loves. The whites in one side doing "white stuff", and blacks in the other side doing "black stuff", and eventually getting together to discuss the "racial issues" between them.

You are so f**king intellectually poor. And you cite these black/white crap as if it were some great achievement. Imagine some modern astronomer being told about "astrology" as an advancement to what we currently have. Are you able to picture that? Yes, it's just as lame.

I love this country!

To finish this story, the cannibal myth is about a selectively and willingly absorbing other cultures. I believe any person that enjoys studying other cultures would love this idea, the ability to change yourself and build whatever identity you want.

Black americans were born to suffer, and they seem to love it so much! Stay there with your misery. We are happy in eating people and being free.
A brazilian
written by Californian, March 17, 2007
hahahaha the dumbest thing I ever heard.... what a clown , modernist morons.... Hahahaha
Don't cast your pearls before the swine
written by A brazilian, March 17, 2007
Culturally you are the equivalent of a caveman, you wouldn't understand anything that doesn't include rappers and the extensive use of the word "bitch".
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written by Some chick, March 17, 2007
Yes Brazilian women are gorgeous, I have nothing against Brazilian women. I am complaining for them because I don't see how they can stand to live there if they're black or overthe age of 30. And there's nothing you can say in response because you know it's true. How can I envy people who only really live for about 30 years before their lives are over?

The ability to absorb things...that's called stealing. Copy black people and put a white face on it later.

Black Americans born to suffer? Is that why black Americans are the richest blacks on earth and are all over TV, and why only 10% of black American men marry outside their race?Compare that to miserable black Brazilians who live for Carnival and say things to mulattos like "don't worry your children will be blond hair and blue eyed, not ugly like you". Two thumbs down. smilies/grin.gif
Some chick
written by A brazilian, March 17, 2007
At least you recognized some part of the truth, they are indeed gorgeous, but they are also free to do what they want to. What do you know about being black over 30? Are you, by any chance, one? Of course being over 30 and obese won't be good anywhere, because of obvious reasons, but "black'? Do you mean that being white, obese and over 30 is awesome in Brazil? Haha, give it a try!

People are what they are, no more no less. If you can't value people because of their race or gender then you are racist or a sexist.

And that's not stealing, that's absorbing. It means the final configuration will be something completely different from the initial, something completely new. That's creation and prerogative of the elite.

They are so miserable and victimize yourselves so much. If they were half of the "good" you say you wouldn't care about what I or any other person think.

Only american bigots care if their children will be born blonde. We are the next race, your values aren't good enough to us.
The Debate
written by acommonthought@aol.com (bobby chicago), March 18, 2007
Didn't know that this article could create such a stir. It is about "taste", "choice", and "chance". For what it is worth, to me, beauty is beauty. yet, beauty is both internal and external. you determine your own beauty. but, reality is that others also determine their own view of your beauty.

it is about taste. just like ice cream where certain flavors are popular. some of us like to mix our flavors at the same time. others only stick to 1 there whole life. while, still, others rotate.

We by "chance", thru our parents and heritage, are born the way we are. Our parents (and their heritage), for the most part, made the "choices". The created or inherited by "chance" or "choice" the environment we each grew up into.

By "choice", we can influence our shape and size but consumption habits (eating, exercising, etc.). By "choice", we can decide whether the corners of our mouth is usually up or down. By "chance", we walk the line of opportunities that come our way and the "choices" made to do right or wrong.

I for one see beauty across all continents. But, that is me. I understand that there are beautiful women across all continents that do not view me the same. That is the case in my own country or own race. That is fine. I still treat everyone with respect.

I love all Brazilians as I feel the same about the many people I've met around the world. Latin American has a special place in my heart. There is some much potential. I celebrate in Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, Colombia, (and, even, that country with a "V"), Panama, etc. success.

If I were to marry again, it would be possible a woman from South of the Equator.

With "true love", to some of us, color doesn't matter. My family may have a preference but they all say "we care about how the person, regardless of color, race, etc. treats our brother, sister, son, or daughter." Any one who cherishes my family or friends, I will be their loyal friend for "um amigo para vida."

acommon(opinion from an internationalist living somewhere)
bobby - chicago smilies/wink.gif
Mind the Gap!!
written by V.Martin, March 18, 2007
I want to see what you british people will do with all those black people that today are leaving in Britain. I assure you that in less than two decades your country will be somewhow like Brazil. Or do you think that all those people, and I am not referring to black people only, include on this muslins, indians and other asians will have the same oportunity like the white british to have a high standart of life? I don't think so. We can see how dangerous London and Britain in general is becoming as a result of poverty and crime and we clearly can see the causes of these problems. So, before you point your fingers to Brazil, pay attention on what is happening around you. And be very careful with the enemies that are leaving among you. Keep in mind that they are british like you. It will be very hard for you to get rid of them. I think that your problems in a future not so far will be worst than ours.
The Anglo-Saxon Mindset
written by Costinha, March 18, 2007
RACIST... Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow!

Some elements will never change. Its by-product, reverse discrimination, just as bad. That's the USA lifestyle.
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written by Some chick, March 18, 2007
"Of course being over 30 and obese won't be good anywhere, because of obvious reasons, but "black'? Do you mean that being white, obese and over 30 is awesome in Brazil? Haha, give it a try! "

That's exactly my point. It's a living NIGHTMARE to be over 30 in Brazil, especially if obese. Are you kidding me about "anywhere"? In the US you can be 50 and still be considered sexy!

"People are what they are, no more no less. If you can't value people because of their race or gender then you are racist or a sexist. "

Tell that your smilies/grin.gif fake smiling brasileiros!

"Only american bigots care if their children will be born blonde. We are the next race, your values aren't good enough to us. "

Are you kidding? Blacks here are proud to be black!
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written by A brazilian, March 18, 2007
That's exactly my point. It's a living NIGHTMARE to be over 30 in Brazil, especially if obese. Are you kidding me about "anywhere"? In the US you can be 50 and still be considered sexy!


I think it is a fact that women in Brazil stay sexy for far longer than there. This so called "problem" doesn't except in your (little) mind.

Are you kidding? Blacks here are proud to be black!


They seem pretty much insecure about themselves, so much they need to demonstrate "pride". A person with self-assurance couldn't care less about what others think, the american blacks are the exact opposite.

And they paint whites as "omnipotent", the all-mighty people whose judgements are the rule. Hahaha. I will never understand why these retards use the "one drop rule" and the same values from whites if they hate them so much, they are so powerless and such victims.
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written by Luca , Rome, March 20, 2007
I am white but I think brazil is full of good looking Black girls and men and ugly white girls and men
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written by anon, March 20, 2007
I'm 42 and very sexy and very hot, "girl". I run some 20K / week, lift weights and could get any (I mean ANY) 20 year old in my bed ANY time.
Ur stupid rethoric won't work here. Brazilian women r often the sole breadwinner in lots of families. My dad died when my Mom was 41 and, without ever stopping working, my mom raised us 4 kids to become successful, decent, honest people. Mind u, no welfare help included!
This chick is obviously a man (no woman would think like that, we know better) and I'm starting to get to the botttom of what goes on in this site. Thing is, most of u male Americans HERE seem to have sth REALLY personal against Brazil and now I think I know why: u were snubbed by Brazilian women. hehehehehe
We CAN.
Good day.
To:Anon
written by Tom Dooley, March 22, 2007
I liked your post.Where are you located in Brazil? I mean the state.I am impressed that you run 20 miles per week. Must be slim and keeping a good health.

Take care.

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written by Some chick, March 22, 2007
"I'm 42 and very sexy and very hot, "girl". I run some 20K / week, lift weights and could get any (I mean ANY) 20 year old in my bed ANY time.
Ur stupid rethoric won't work here. Brazilian women r often the sole breadwinner in lots of families. My dad died when my Mom was 41 and, without ever stopping working, my mom raised us 4 kids to become successful, decent, honest people. Mind u, no welfare help included!
This chick is obviously a man (no woman would think like that, we know better) and I'm starting to get to the botttom of what goes on in this site. Thing is, most of u male Americans HERE seem to have sth REALLY personal against Brazil and now I think I know why: u were snubbed by Brazilian women. hehehehehe
We CAN.
Good day. "

What are you talking about lady? Guys are all horney, they'll screw ANYTHING until 5 minutes after it's dead. That's not some great feat to be able to get a guy in bed. Yeah it's great that you run that much and stay in shape, but I'm no guy. Why would I be defending brasileiras if I had been snubbed by them? I why would I care about machismo? I care because I'm tired of seeing Latinas coming to me crying about this nonsense and no one doing anything about it.
Some chick is racist
written by A brazilian, March 23, 2007
A brazilian woman came and told you that you are are full s**t. Accept it. There's no such thin as "latinas" except in the mind of racist americans.
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written by A brazilian, March 23, 2007
This stereotype of "latinos" is the worst disease that could ever exist. You like then live with it, but I don't think I will participate in this little theater of yours. Sick racist people.
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written by A brazilian, March 23, 2007
I care because I'm tired of seeing Latinas coming to me crying about this nonsense and no one doing anything about it.


I think I am going to vomit. Can you at least tell from what country those "latinas" were from? You know, we have tens of countries below Mexico. I know geography is not taught properly in the US but such generalizations like these only make you look stupid, very stupid.
Anon
written by Anon, March 26, 2007
Still running, still hot, still sexy, still thinking ur a guy. "Girl", since when do women in Brazil would go for some FAT CHICK for help??? Get a grip!!!

Tom, I said 20K! And that's good enough for me. I'm not going to mention bench press out of respect to SOME CHICK.
Beijos
Those who redicules human being of any color are the most ugly inside and outside.
written by Just a Human being, April 01, 2007
Some of the sickening messages in ridiculing the blacks reflect the sick mind of some shallow human being. I am just another human being on earth. The fixation on exterior appeal exclusively by people with shallow mind reveal their mental sickness. External beuaty on its own do not last or provide lasting hapiness. The one who ridicule anyone ugly is infact the most ugly person who seldom take a good look at themselves both outside and inside himselves. It's the healthy state of mind that is most important while we exist. The one who ridicule other should look back when he/she is near the end of his time and take a good look at themselves in mirror just before they go to see how ugly she/he was and remember when he/she wrote those ugly messages in degrading others.

We have no control over our physical charaateristic but we do have control over our fitness. No human being own anything on earth and not even their own body. Each and every atoms and molecules in each of our body of any race are identical and they are eventually recyled when the time is up. The atomes and molecules that are liberated from decomposition process will find its way in other forms of living or non living things. These molecules are color blind and have no preferences for any race or any form of living or non living things. Just be grateful for what you are given by nature and don't boast about your "good" look if you have it. Those with short term attractive look who boast and ridicule others often have a very empty life and try to get attention to fool themselves. Lasting good friendship and relationship depend more on decency in feeling and mutual respect to create happy social environment. Decent people don't boast and ridicule others and only cheap people do that.

It's the screwed up brain of some shallow idiots who try to classify human being on looks, financial power, believes ....etc etc.

There are better things to use our brain than fixation on external appeal and races which is only skin deep, only silly kids with nothing much to do prefer to spend time in degrading the less comopetitive and the disadvantaged people. Without the poorer section of the community taking less pay living in slump, the "Have" will not accumulate their wealth and indulge in luxurious living. Spare a thought for those in the lower income with lower education level and competiveness for their contribution in building the economy in any country. In fact some attractive people are so cheap that they can be bought by money for any service including marriage for they have nothing else to make a living on their own. Of course there are also decent attractive people who don not go about boasting themselves and ridicule other with less attractive look as they are not shallow people.

Instead of ridiculing the less formtunates and the less competitive or the less ambitious people, the "Have" should try to help them in return for their contribution to their nation through better education and improve their living standard.

Just remember each and every human being are make up the the same pool of atoms and molecule that has exist on earth and been recyled before Human being exists. The attempt to classify people based on colour, culture etc is so so shallow and this sick behavior is responsible for conflicts in the human society. The bloodshed in wars has been created by these sickening people.

The freedom of expression is sadly abused by some shallow people on earth to provoke negativity and division.I hope there is enough decent peopple on earth to resist those who try to ridicule and classify fellow human being based on color, sex appeal , social status , financial power etc .The goodness inside ourselves give us the lasting true happiness with or without the good look.

Human being
written by A brazilian, April 02, 2007
Your text was repetitive, poorly written and had no connetion with the subject of this thread.
sorry,,,its true
written by nika514, June 28, 2007
some girl is right on the money. I was married to a brazilian man, and lived there for a while. I was immersed in thier culture there and even here in the states. I grew to despise the culture...

tourist guide to brazilian culture
1. you are "old" if you are over thirty-although they can appreciate the beauty of an older women old still =30
2. women are weak minded, need to be hit sometimes, should put up with cheating (according to brazilian men)
3. women are good for cleaning and cooking
4. only ugly women go for much education (i have actually heard this sputtered numerous times)
5 it is ok to kill someone if they have hurt your pride
6. brazilians hate americans (but travel here everyday by the millions)
7. Fat is disgusting (meaning an extra five pounds)
8.lying is ok
9 a girl can be SCARY ugly but if she has a big butt she is hot
****good thing because it is a myth of brazilian women being so beautiful-many are very ugly with old sun damaged faces and hairy lips and legs (but with good bodies)
10. brazilians are jealous of everyone and everything and especially of each other. no one can get ahead in life without being called stuck up--and yet the poor are made fun of too

and the grand finale
no matter what you do-you can never keep a brazilian from putting a knife in your back as soon as you leave the room
by the way i am a twenty seven year old thin and very pretty american and my brazilian husband was so hot brazilians/americans and everything in between stared at him every where we went-so dont start with this jealous s**t
get over it
NOBODY IS JEALOUS OF BRAZIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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written by Snake, July 14, 2007
Nike your an ugly anlgo white fat piece of s**t cunt. Your Brazilian husband is a gay faggot. Only gay Brazilan men marry U.S. women. Brazilan men that marry U.S. women are loser. The only person that is jealous is you. You realize that U.S.men want women that are hot.
By the way in Brazil, if a woman has a nice ass, its not the only factor that will make her hot. You really are a retarded cunt.

By they way 345 and 7 are true and a good thing. U.S women are inferior and pieces of s**t in the world.

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