Brazzil

Since 1989 Trying to Understand Brazil

Home

----------

Brazilian Eyelash Enhancer & Conditioner Makeup

----------

Get Me Earrings

----------

Buy Me Handbags

----------

Find Me Diamond

----------

Wholesale Clothing On Sammydress.com

----------

Brautkleider 2013

----------

Online shopping at Tmart.com and Free Shipping

----------

Wholesale Brazilian Hair Extensions on DHgate.com

----------

Global Online shopping with free shipping at Handgiftbox

----------

Search

Custom Search
Members : 22767
Content : 3832
Content View Hits : 33087750

Who's Online

We have 495 guests online



World Won't Respect Brazilian Indians Patent Rights Starting with Brazil PDF Print E-mail
2007 - March 2007
Written by Carolina Bruun   
Saturday, 17 March 2007 14:27

A Yawanawá Indian - www.yawanawa.comThey still live in the middle of the Amazon forest and their culture has been little westernized. Their bathrooms are the rivers, their supermarkets are everything the forest has to offer and their TV is an hallucinogenic tea made from a jungle vine. But the world patent have become part of their universe before these types of development.

"The whites created all these names like patent, intellectual property and biodiversity. It is very hard for us to understand them all, but we had to get used to them even though they have never brought any concrete benefit to us," says Darcy Marubo, one of the leaders of the Coordination of Indigenous Organizations in the Brazilian Amazon (Coiab).

The first time Chief Darcy's organisation got involved with the patenting world was in 1996. Coiab discovered that ayahuasca, the most sacred plant for indigenous peoples of the Amazon, had been patented by Loren Miller, an American scientist who visited the region. Mr Miller patent filing in the United States Patents and Trademark Office (USPTO) claimed he had found a new kind of ayahuasca (Banisteriopsis caapi) because the colour of the vine's flowers was "different".

The vine ayahuasca contains the hallucinogenic dimethyltriptamin (DMT). It is transformed into a tea and used by the Amazonian indigenous in religious ceremonies to diagnose, treat and cure diseases, as well as to meet spirits and foresee the future. With the argument of the plant's sacredness and the fact that they had known it for centuries, the indigenous convinced the US patent office that the patent should never have been granted in 1999. But in 2001, the office changed its view due to a recall from Mr Miller. Despite protests, the patent was valid until 2003, when its expiry date was due.

"The Ayahuasca case shows the total disrespect of the whites' world towards our beliefs and culture," says Chief Darcy. Nowadays, Chief Darcy is one of the few indigenous leaders who follows closely the proposal of the Brazilian government to guarantee that patents mention any indigenous knowledge related to their novelty. Brazil also wants benefits from scientific or commercial developments derived from indigenous knowledge to be shared with them. However, it is still dubious that Brazil's involvement in the subject is prompted only by an interest in the well-being of these communities.

The world's market of drugs derived of plants is worth US$ 31 billion, according to the UN. Out of the 106 most used drugs in the world that are derived from medicinal plants, 79 were previously used by indigenous shamans, says the International Society of Ethnopharmacology, an international think-tank that gathers scientists interested in researching the knowledge of traditional communities. And these figures tend to rise, as companies have been leaving chemical combinations to explore natural resources.

Lately, the biotech industry has flourished as a supplier of research and patented knowledge to be transformed into products. The latest reports from the World Intellectual Property Organisation (WIPO), from 1990 to 2000, show that patents in general grew about 5 percent annually, a rate that is simil ar to the world's economy growth, while biotech annual patents rose by 15 percent in the US and 10 percent in Europe. But the producers of this knowledge are not widespread. According to WIPO, the use of patent systems remains "highly concentrated": USA, Japan, Republic of Korea, China and the European patent office account for 74 percent of all patents granted.

According to the Brazilian government, the country spends about US$ 1 billion annually on royalties of patented chemical products and medicines that are based on the elements of its biodiversity, and possibly on its indigenous communities' knowledge. Brazil is the world's most bio-diverse country that holds around 20 percent of the planet's animals, plants and micro-organisms and one of the highest concentration of indigenous communities. However, it has never patented or fully developed a new drug based its bio or cultural heritage.

In 2001, Brazil approved a provisional national law that says that companies and researchers have to get previous consent from the government and communities to research and develop products based on the natural resources they use, as well as to share benefits with them from later developments. Internationally, Brazil is one of the 11 bio-mega-diverse developing countries who call the inclusion of the principles of previous consent and benefit-sharing of the UN Convention of Biological Diversity (CBD) on the World Trade Organisation (WTO) and its Trade Related Aspects of Property Rights (TRIPS).

"If our proposal comes true, patent filings will have to mention the origins of the resources and if there was any traditional knowledge involved. The government also wants to be a negotiator between communities and companies because their power of bargaining cannot be considered equal", says Henrique Moraes, a Brazilian diplomat who participates in the WTO negotiations.

Brazil's proposal is contested in the WTO by the US, that says that no amendment is needed on TRIPS because community rights can be guaranteed by private contracts between the indigenous and the institutions interested in working with their knowledge and resources. The EU has not submitted any formal document on the WTO, but via WIPO, it contests the point of Brazil's proposal that asks patents to be cancelled when not in accordance with the principles of previous consent and benefit sharing.

Whilst Brazil fights abroad, experience shows that the country has not been able to guarantee its communities' rights nationally. According to the UN Convention of the International Labour Organization (ILO), indigenous peoples have the right to participate directly in the decision making process of political debates that involve their rights, something that has not taken place in Brazil.

"Brazil should take the rights of the indigenous peoples as seriously as it takes the rules of the WTO, but it doesn't. Our participation in government meetings is very marginal and embarrassing, we can hardly speak and we cannot vote. It is revolting to see people working on the essence of our own culture when they are not interested in listening to the ones who have more to contribute", says Fernanda Kaigang, an indigenous lawyer from the Brazilian Indigenous Institute for Intellectual Rights (Inbrapi).

As well as not including the indigenous directly in the process, Brazil has not been able to make its law work nationally. "The law is a big failure. It says good things, but it doesn't work in reality. It was created by our politicians but they didn't listen to us," says Chief Darcy.

An example of Brazil's failure to follow nationally the rules it wants to be implemented abroad are the Ashaninkas, an indigenous community based in the Amazon on the border of Brazil and Peru. In 1992, the Ashaninkas started a process to reinforce their culture and autonomy that had been damaged by contact with loggers in the region. "We were looking for alternative ways to make money to buy simple things like tools that we usually get from the market and we knew we didn't have only wood to offer", says Francisco Píyãko, one of the tribe's young leaders.

The Ashaninkas invited a young Brazilian scientist, Fabio Dias, to live in their tribe and help them in their search, tells Chief Francisco. The researcher lived in the tribe for three years and married an anthropologist who had also lived there and was the ex-wife of the tribe's chief. "His role was defined by an 'oral contract' in which any results should be given to the tribe. But the contract was broken", says Chief Francisco.

Nowadays, Mr Dias owns a company that gets US$ 15,000 a month with the sale of soaps made of the oil of a nut, the murmuru. According to the company's spokesperson, most of the revenue comes from the Brazilian market, but the soaps are already being exported to the US and France. The soaps carry a fair-trade label, but they do not mention that the same oil they use to make the soaps is used by the Ashaninkas as skin moisturiser for children.

The scientist denies any link with the traditional knowledge of the indigenous. In 2003, he filed a patent as the inventor of the murmuru soap in the Brazilian patent office. The patent did not mention where the nuts were taken from and neither that he had lived in a community that uses them as a skin moisturizer. The Ashaninkas went to court and the patent filing was cancelled, but they are still waiting for any benefits.

Brazil's most known indigenous rights campaign group - the Socio-Environmental Institute (ISA) - made a survey under the guidelines of the Centre for Economic Aspects of the Genomics of the University of Lancaster, in England's Northwest, to analyse the effectiveness of the Brazilian patenting system. The survey indicated that like the Ashaninkas, many other tribes could have had their knowledge 'stolen' by the Brazilian patenting system. The results showed that less than 2 percent of the patents filed in Brazil that accessed the country's bio-genetic resources mentioned where the resources were found and in which community they were researched.

"It is true that we still have to implement nationally what is being proposed abroad. But we are already working on it," says Guilherme Amorim, a lawyer from the Brazilian Environment ministry. But Mr Moraes, the Brazilian diplomat, mentions another case of indigenous knowledge's misappropriation to reinforce the need of international cooperation to make things work in Brazil. The case mentioned by Mr. Moraes is of a poison of an Amazonian tree frog, phyllomedusa bicolour, used by more than 10 indigenous communities in the State of Acre, one of the most remote corners of the Amazon forest.

After getting reports from journalists and anthropologists who visited the region and watched the indigenous burning their skin and rubbing the frog's poison to go hunting and to prevent diseases, scientists in Europe and in the US have filed more than 20 patents on the frog's poison substances. And in this case, the indigenous proved to be naturally formed scientists. The 'go-hunting' effect can be explained by demorphine, a pain killer that is 33 percent stronger than morphine. And the disease prevention mentioned by indigenous became patents on deltorphine, an anti-bacterial substance that can be used to combat malaria and Aids.

Three of the Brazilian tribes that use the frog's poison have declared their interest to be benefiting from these scientific developments, but the Brazilian government is still trying to find out if these patents have already been transformed into medicines and profits. "It is difficult to follow the link between a patent and a product. It is hard to find out how much the substances are present in a final product and how important they are in the whole composition. The results from our research are too preliminary to say if the poison has become a product," says Moraes.

While the Brazilian Foreign ministry works on its research abroad, the Environment ministry has tried to find companies to work with the indigenous to develop a medicine with them. "We want to work in partnership with a company to isolate one of the molecules from the frog's poison and develop a medicine that is going to be patented in our name," says Fernando Katukina, the Chief of the Katukina's tribe, one of the three tribes that has worked with the Environment ministry.

But Chief Fernando's expectations face a logic that is different from the communal way of thinking of his tribe. "We have prepared the indigenous to negotiate with a company, but the company doesn't even want its name to be published. We wanted to create a pioneer project, but the provisional law we have is too unstable to support a risky investment like this. The company says it is very risky for its image if the project fails and doesn't meet the indigenous' expectations," says Bruno Filizola, the director of the Brazilian Project for Bio-prospecting (Probem).

Another tribe that got involved with the frog's project could not forget about the patenting world when it launched a fashion company that uses their body paintings on the clothes they sell. "We have tried to register these paintings on behalf of our people, but we couldn't. The Brazilian patent office said it was a communal knowledge, and not an individual one. So, we had to register them on behalf of only one of us and this caused conflicts in our community. For us, nothing is private, everything belongs to all of us," says Joaquim Yawanawá, a young leader of the Yawanawá people.

The issue exposed by Chief Joaquim has also been criticized by non-Indigenous. "The Brazilian government is proposing contracts and private intellectual property. It ignores the indigenous collective understanding of knowledge. If the sharing of benefits comes true, it will be a financial payment that someone will use to privatize the indigenous knowledge on its behalf," says Fernando Mathias, a lawyer from ISA, the Brazilian NGO that has done the study on the country's patenting system.

At the same time that Brazil fights abroad and nationally, the indigenous that already have been in touch with the patenting world seem not to have another choice but to get involved. "It might not be the best way to do it, but for us to survive and guarantee our rights, we must dance to the song that the others play," says Chief Joaquim.

Carolina Bruun is a Brazilian journalist specialized in human rights, environment and development, who lives and works in London. This article is part of her Master thesis in International Journalism (City University, UK), which involved a two-month field work in Brazil.



Add this page to your favorite Social Bookmarking websites
Reddit! Del.icio.us! Mixx! Free and Open Source Software News Google! Live! Facebook! StumbleUpon! TwitThis Joomla Free PHP
Comments (22)Add Comment
reap what you plant
written by forrest allen brown, March 18, 2007
Brazil does not recognise personal property rights
nor do they believe in foreign patinas
so why should the world recognize there so called claim to any thing ?

Movies , music , Drugs , equipment all have copy rights .
  but in Brazil all are up for grabs

you can buy it on the streets , in stores , and Brazilians are shipping to foreign countries

drugs from the countries of France , German , England , USA all have been reversed engineered in Brazil ans sold under different names .
Run Forrest, run!
written by A brazilian, March 18, 2007
Are you smoking something? Because your post make absolutely no sense.
...
written by e harmony, March 19, 2007
Interesting topic. This seems to be a complex issue though, because questions arise right beside suggestions, ideas, or answers. One big question is would Germany be as it is today if its peoples never modernized and assimilated into constructs of modern civilization? Should one promote nomadic life styles and communities in place like Africa or the Americas? I'm not sure I fully know the answer to that question. Ok, so all or some of these tribes may not be nomadic in the true sense nonetheless there seems to be a contradiction in promoting "traditional way of life" in the rain forests of the Amazon or in rural areas of Africa for that matter, yet promoting the idea that people should seek college education and that societies need to develop solid modern infrastructures.

All communities be they in the Americas, Africa, Asia, or Europe used plants as medicines for thousands of years (to this day this is how many medicines are developed). So while I recognize that indigenous groups need to have their traditions respected, and while I do agree indigenous peoples should not be taken advantage of, I'm not always so sure encouraging indigenous communities to not assimilate into the constructs of modern civilization is for the best for these peoples. Then again, in some ways their traditional ways of life are probably far superior to our own modern constructs in "civilization." I mean the modern world creates some crazy a** phenomenon as "homelessness." The idea that a corporation is legally a person and the idea of "intellectual property rights" seems some what strange too (at least to me).
Are you smoking something? Because your post make absolutely no sense.????????
written by ch.c., March 19, 2007
Are you telling us you dont do illegal copies of CDs, movies, designers cloth copies and whatever ???????
Have you never heard the word pirating.....pirated copies ???????
Of course Forrest is 1000 % right !!!!!!

If not, we are not really surprised of your lies. Lying and cheating being the norm in your country ! It is in your gene, in your blood.
You are born with these 2 deseases, and you have no intention to cure them !
e harmony, may god have mercey on your soul
written by dimethlman, March 19, 2007
the native people have a much much more evolved and sophisticated understanding of the world than any modern scientist. of course, they cant do calculus, write a book, or build a car, nor do they have any sense of money. but, they are in tune with nature. unlike us, the natives have been living for thousands of years in the jungle, surviving completely in harmony with nature. when the white man came they destroyed the land, and it is only becouse of their infiltration do the natives have trouble now. we are slowly killing the planet, turning it into a s**thole. we have alot to learn from the natives, and i believe they deserve due credit for it.
Two things
written by A brazilian, March 19, 2007
First, the indians indeed live in tune with nature without destroying it. But there's usually a notion among many individuals especially in urban centers of romancizing indians as some sort of "pure human beings", without any of character defects we see so often. A kind of "nobility" that no one else has. Do you really think this is true?

Second, why do you use the term "white man"? Is it tradition in the US to victime yourself or someone else? My stomach turns when people put this abstract entity "white man" in some sort of pedestal, as the perpetrator. Aren't anyone else capable of commiting senseless violence and destruction? Isn't it effeminated when you portray yourself as passive?
...
written by e harmony, March 19, 2007
e harmony, may god have mercey on your soul
written by dimethlman, 2007-03-19 00:47:17

the native people have a much much more evolved and sophisticated understanding of the world than any modern scientist. of course, they cant do calculus, write a book, or build a car, nor do they have any sense of money. but, they are in tune with nature. unlike us, the natives have been living for thousands of years in the jungle, surviving completely in harmony with nature. when the white man came they destroyed the land, and it is only becouse of their infiltration do the natives have trouble now. we are slowly killing the planet, turning it into a s**thole. we have alot to learn from the natives, and i believe they deserve due credit for it.


@ bold: Well that may be your opinion. Certainly scientists can be either as wrong, lost, or distorted or corrupt on a matter as anyone else. But science - which evolves and is in theory self-correcting - has benefited man greatly and increased his understanding of the world and life. The anti-biotic revolution greatly improved the lives of millions or peoples, generation after generation. While we are now moving out of the anti-biotic revolution due bacterial diseases evolving to become drug resistant to our current drugs, we do have hope nonetheless in the future possibilities of genetic medical care. Science anyways has been around with us for probably thousands of years. The applied sciences are "science" though when people speak of "science" they rarely mean to include engineering and other applied sciences into that term.

As for living in harmony with nature verse natures destruction, number one human beings are a part of nature, science confirms this. All organisms share a common ancestor, at least in popular theory. Human beings are themselves also part of this material world also, just as a stone is. But you are 100% correct that we have been destroying the environment now for well over 100 years, however that did not come from the "white man" per se, but is a result of capitalism and communism. The Industrial Revolution is what gave the means to human being to destroy the environment at the rate the rate we have. The "white man" lived for thousands of years in Europe in "harmony with nature" as the indigenous in Asia, Africa, or the Americas did. The development of "civilization" (I know its a subjective term) is not even popularly thought to have begun in Europe with the "white man" but in the Fertile Cresent in the Middle East (we can say amongst brown, olive, or swarthy peoples). Again, if we include the applied sciences into the term "science" (rather than just the natural sciences) then we find "science" was flourishing in ancient Babylon, in various kingdoms of ancient "Hindu" India, certainly we know it was in China, and we can even read Conquistadors letters of astonishment at it (temples and so forth) in the Aztec (Mexica) capital.

I'm sure that Amerindians in the rain forests of Brazil have wisdom and knowledge about their environment. I don't doubt this. But I would not go as far as you to suggest people confined to such a parochial view could have "a much much more evolved and sophisticated understanding of the world than any modern scientist." Scientist publish their works and are at the critique of their peers on a global level, science itself is not parochial in view but open to adapting new knowledge from all over the world. The "white mans" use of algebra did not even originate with white people. Algebra came to the "white man" by way of Muslims from the East who themselves learned it from the "Hindus" of India. Math is universal and not parochial, there are very few universal languages in this world, music and math are part of the universal languages.

...
written by dimethlman, March 19, 2007
yes, you are correct. i know all this. but i have a little story for you.

a rancher in greece once wanted to know how many teeth a horse has. he decided that the wisest man of all, arisotle, would know; so he gathered his companions and headed off to see aristotle. meanwhile the man's stable boy overheard him arguing about teeth, and just went into a stable, and counted the teeth in a horses mouth. months later, the rancher gets back, dissapointed. the stable boy tries to tell him about the number of teeth that he counted, but of course, the rancher disbelieved that this boy could know something aristotle didnt. although the boy knew how many teeth a horse had, the rancher went the rest of his life oblivious, always wondering, how many teeth are there in a horses mouth?

civilization itself, not communism vs. capitalism, is what is destroying this planet. europeans never lived "in harmony" with nature. they farmed the crap out of their soil, untill it was drained of all nutrients. they built cities, cut trees, etc. the only time europeans lived "in harmony" with nature is before the agricultural revolution. you think the 3 field system was an advancement in farming? why dont you find out how the south american indians farm their food. you mention the fertile crecent. did you forget that the irrigation they used was not sustainable. they ran the soil dry, and turned the entire region into a dessert. the aztecs, although also advaced, destroyed themselves in a very simmilar way. yes, the conquistadores were the reason the aztec and mya disspeared the last time, but the aztecs have been the many cycles of destruction and re-birth. in the previous times when they dissapeared, it was becouse they slash and burned all the jungle for farm land, ran it dry, and then didnt have any more food. they only re-apeared as the jungle re-grew, and re-fertilized itself naturally.

yes, math and music, and science for that matter is universal, but that doesnt mean that the human race can truly benifit from it. you talk about antibiotics and how they saved millions of lives. whats going to happen when pathogens, as many already have, develop immunities to antibiotics? how many million people will die then?


ever taken ayahuasca?
...
written by e harmony, March 19, 2007
written by dimethlman, 2007-03-19 15:38:02

yes, you are correct. i know all this. but i have a little story for you.

a rancher in greece once wanted to know how many teeth a horse has. he decided that the wisest man of all, arisotle, would know; so he gathered his companions and headed off to see aristotle. meanwhile the man's stable boy overheard him arguing about teeth, and just went into a stable, and counted the teeth in a horses mouth. months later, the rancher gets back, dissapointed. the stable boy tries to tell him about the number of teeth that he counted, but of course, the rancher disbelieved that this boy could know something aristotle didnt. although the boy knew how many teeth a horse had, the rancher went the rest of his life oblivious, always wondering, how many teeth are there in a horses mouth?

civilization itself, not communism vs. capitalism, is what is destroying this planet. europeans never lived "in harmony" with nature. they farmed the crap out of their soil, untill it was drained of all nutrients. they built cities, cut trees, etc. the only time europeans lived "in harmony" with nature is before the agricultural revolution. you think the 3 field system was an advancement in farming? why dont you find out how the south american indians farm their food. you mention the fertile crecent. did you forget that the irrigation they used was not sustainable. they ran the soil dry, and turned the entire region into a dessert. the aztecs, although also advaced, destroyed themselves in a very simmilar way. yes, the conquistadores were the reason the aztec and mya disspeared the last time, but the aztecs have been the many cycles of destruction and re-birth. in the previous times when they dissapeared, it was becouse they slash and burned all the jungle for farm land, ran it dry, and then didnt have any more food. they only re-apeared as the jungle re-grew, and re-fertilized itself naturally.

yes, math and music, and science for that matter is universal, but that doesnt mean that the human race can truly benifit from it. you talk about antibiotics and how they saved millions of lives. whats going to happen when pathogens, as many already have, develop immunities to antibiotics? how many million people will die then?


ever taken ayahuasca?


And yet the irony is that you are utilizing the internet complaining that civilization is destroying the environment. smilies/smiley.gif

As for this assertion, "civilization itself, not communism vs. capitalism, is what is destroying this planet. europeans never lived "in harmony" with nature. they farmed the crap out of their soil, untill it was drained of all nutrients. they built cities, cut trees, etc," I disagree with it. The Europeans to my knowledge were not the first peoples to have settled communities built around farming. And what is so much more special in killing animals for food over cutting down a tree for lumber?

But regardless ones view of white peoples, the question still arise, in relation to this article, if civilization is so bad and all (not some) constructs of modern life are bad, then why do Amerindians in the Amazonian jungles need to make a financial profit from a "oil of a nut, the murmuru"? Life is as life is, which is often unfair, but one must still face life on life's terms as best they can. At one time a child never needed to go to school for a single day in his or her life to exist, in the Amazon jungles perhaps this is still true. For many in mankind, basic schooling is now required to make a living and function in the world. Is this good? Is this bad? One can argue that for days, but it is a fact of life for many if not most people. The days of running around half naked with a spear, be it in Europe, Africa, the Middle East, or the Americas are gone except for a small pocket of areas. Today, building communities around solid infrastructure such as plumbing, electricity, paved roads, schools, libraries and internet and satalite (sp?) capabilities is more important. Today genetic engineering of food products is an increasing reality (such as the frost resistant strawberry). Personally I am use to toilets and running water and have no desire to live exposed to the elements void of all services of paramedics or disaster relief funds. I also have no objection to the profession and technologies of the dentist. This is not to say that all things of modern civilization are good or better, because as far as I'm concerned they are not. Things like homelessness and the nuclear bomb are part of the bad things and insanity of modern civilization. Sociologist noted in the early 20th century that urban industrialization would increasingly result in people becoming alienated from a sense of "community."
Very good all these theories....
written by ch.c., March 20, 2007
but it remains that both "U.S.A" Indians and "Brazil" Indians play a double role :
they have no intention to work thus they take their TRADITION for an excuse..... but they definitely want to get government money through subdidizes, "new" drugs also free and not really their herbal traditional drugs. They also expect to RECEIVE FREE from the government......cars and or trucks !!!!!
They also enjoy listening to radio, some watching TV and most have a fridge too !!!!
And I dont really know about the "Brazil" Indians, but the "U.S.A" Indians are in their vast majority.....ALCOHOLIC !!!!
And the "U.S.A" Indians women LOVE much better Junk Foods than their healthy and natural diet. So much, that their rate of obesity is even much higher than "white" American
women !!!!!

In that sense, NOOOOO they are NOT stupid but WHITES ARE !!!!!

I can only agree that whites did not leave them with enough land, but Indians expect to receive back as much land as possible !
Dont "Brazil" Indians wish to reclaim some of their "historical" land at or near SP city ?????? Smile !!!!!!

If Indians would claim that central SP, Rio and N.Y. belong to them, technically speaking they would be....RIGHT !!!!!!!
Bill Gates would become a very poor guy !

Bolivian Indians could then also ask some of the land they lost due to their war with Brazil !
origins of the resources, patented products...etc etc...
written by ch.c., March 20, 2007


World (including Brazil) wont recognize patent rights:

- for cattles.....native from.....Africa !
- soyabeans....native from.....China !
- corn and wheat....native from ?????? but not from USA, Brazil or Argentina !
- arabica coffee....native from....Ethiopia !!!!
- many grasses utilized everywhere.... but .native from Africa and China !!!
- Heveas...native from Africa and Amazon (not only Brazilian Amazon)
- Orange...native from China !
- cane sugar....origin from.....Tropical Asia (incl. India, Indo-Malaysia)
- potatoes and tomatos...orgiin from South America.
- rice.....origin from Tropical Asia (incl. India, Indo-Malaysia)

Just to name a few. Smile.

A site with a list of many Foods & Plants origins: http://online.sfsu.edu/~patter...igins.html

AND BRAZILIANS "EXPERTS", VOLUNTARILY OR NOT, FORGET TO MENTION THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON PATENTS RIGHTS :

PATENTS RIGHTS HAVE A LIMITATION....IN TIME ! PATENTS RIGHTS ARE NOT FOR ETERNITY !!!!!!!
And when one apply for a patent, he has somewhat to disclose details that may help a competitor one way or the other to develop a competing product not against
the rights of the filed patent. (Ideas generate other ideas)

THAT IS WHY MANY TRADE SECRETS REMAIN SECRETS SUCH AS....THE COCA COLA FORMULA ! A typical Non patented formula (or no longer under patent rights - whatever).
Thousands of people tried to duplicate the formula....but without success so far !
...
written by e harmony, March 20, 2007
ch.c.,

Are Swiss people as stupid as you, or are you just one of a kind?
...
written by Dana, March 20, 2007
"They have no intentionto work thus they take their TRADITION as an excuse........"

Oh my Chick, your words are so silly that you can make one laugh their hurt of laughing. On my, please stop smilies/cheesy.gif. You show no whatsoever understanding of culture and tradition.

e-harmony and dimethlman

I would say greed, pride and selfishness feeding ignorance destroys the planet . I would say it is nihilism taking civilization as guilty. One cannot deny the power of producing sensitive ideas civilized man can have. One cannot deny the power of reasoning of communicating of honesty of lucidity of love of generosity civilized man have. None of that should be taken for granted. These are great accomplishments that make life worthy. The problem is that when one has to face ignorance, primitivism, ill-minded together mixed with enlightment. The bad seems to contaminate the good side and the bad side wins because all one can feel sometimes is suspection and threat which unfortunately sometimes is real. No, it is better to fight to see things with a right light.

a brazilian

I wouldn't romancize indians as well as sterotype white man. I think we are all human beings in different stages of existance. Although white man were the perpetrator of indigenous people as history demonstrates. If Indians were to be victimized it is another story. As for victimization, I think it is an error demand men to be supermen. We are all going to die, we are all vulnerable why not acknowledge ones pains and limitations and be able to live still with that, probably better than the other way because we'll see everyone is alike. That is what the indians do. This is not victimization in my opinion.
e harmony
written by Dana, March 20, 2007
Maybe the indians want to profit with the mamona oil or other bio ingredients because they want to protect what is being treaten to disappear, the jungle their home? Hope they get their share and maintain a big piece of the forest untouched for their home and to protect it.
Dana
written by A brazilian, March 20, 2007
Not being supermen, but always to follow a prey with the eyes. Obviously the time won't go back, the people won't abandon America and return the lands to them.


American Indians, "American" guilt pays off
written by alltheway, March 20, 2007
American Indians are granted sovereignty for their "lands" even when they don't own the land but trade the govt to get it (and some tribes were down to just several dozen alive members) and they are alllowed to build casinos (the largest casino in the world! is an Indian casino in Connecticut) and they do NOT have to pay any taxes other than the revenue they agree to share with the state and do not even work in the casinos but hire an outside company to run it from the beginning, .. this is occuring in most states, in the CT case all Indian children have a trust fund for life, being an Indian in the states now is truly the most fortunate of all life situations to find yourself in; born wealthy, do not work and guaranteed an ever increasing life style, it is driving the tax paying casinos nuts
?????????
written by forrest allen brown, March 20, 2007
Will Brazilians leave brazil to the indans , i think not
as in nature only the strong live , the weak eather adapt or get lost in time .

native peoples from all lands for the past 15.000 years have eather had to fight or loose there lands
to this day it still goes on ,

most indan tribes in the USA get along quite well as they get money from the goverment , own gambling casinos on there lands
smoke shops where the fed tax does not aply

and is it just me are you saying only white people live in the USA , what are french , swiss , germans , english , dutch , its a long list
go to any country you find very many colors of people .
are you saying only the whites have taken land from other peoples . or they are the root of all evil
chc
written by dimethlman, March 20, 2007
"And I dont really know about the "Brazil" Indians, but the "U.S.A" Indians are in their vast majority.....ALCOHOLIC !!!!
And the "U.S.A" Indians women LOVE much better Junk Foods than their healthy and natural diet. So much, that their rate of obesity is even much higher than "white" American
women !!!!! "

as you may probobly know, alchoholism is a disease, oftentimes genetic. certain groups of people have weaknesses, and the N.As have a major one with alchohol. why? becouse alchohol was only introduced to the native americas a few hundred years ago, and only truly started drinking it maybe 150 years ago. if you look at other groups of people, you'll find that where alchohol has been a part of the culture for a very long period of time, the people as a whole have a lower instance of alchoholism. E.G alcholism is much more rare in italy, germany, france, russia (they drink alot, but trust me, very few are truly alchoholics, i'm russian) and among the jewish people, as wine has been a weekly sacrament for them for thousands of years. the Irish for example, or certral and southern africans, have a high rate of alchoholism becouse alchohol was only brought during imperial times.

as far as the "healthy diet" thing. the Native americans cant quite eat their normal diet, since it;s not available. they cant survive the "old" way, becouse all their original food source has been f**k up (e.g look at what happened with the buffalo and the souix). they are dependant on commercial products, for which they need money. there are also genetic factors in obesity. the original native american diet was not very consisant, you maybe at alot for a week and lived off of scraps for another week. the life was also hard, so their bodies adapted and evolved over years to permanently slow down their metabolism. this way they waste no food energy, and ALL excess is stored into fat rather than expelled. in other words, native americans need only half as much food to develop and function properly. the problem is that all these women are conforming to the norm and gorging themselves on the standard american diet (which is s**t anyways in the first place). so you get twice the weight with half the effort. smilies/tongue.gif

im not saying you're wrong...you're right. it's just that you cant truly blame them for it. and as far as the goverment subsidies and stuff, i think they deserve it. to this day, native americans are very marginalized and despite some isolated pockets of success as with mohegan sun, a majority are living in poverty, particularly those in the the south and mid west. sheet we jews got israel for the halocaust, i think they deserve some of their own land for all the crap they had to go through.

...
written by e harmony, March 20, 2007
e harmony
written by Dana, 2007-03-19 22:56:04

Maybe the indians want to profit with the mamona oil or other bio ingredients because they want to protect what is being treaten to disappear, the jungle their home? Hope they get their share and maintain a big piece of the forest untouched for their home and to protect it.


Perhaps, Dana.

Either way I wish them the best.
Brazil, citzenship and sustentability is our goal !
written by Ricardo Lyra, March 25, 2007
The government is retard !
The political envoiramental stinks !
But the people are friendly, peacefull and welcome with foreign people. Brazil is the most beautiful place to make long term relatioship. Maybe why the people take advantage of it.
We are looking for a different vision of the "First World Coutries", whom already destroied their rain forest, their green, and now try to dictate rules how to preserve the global envoiramental order.
Please give us a break. Stop to get our plants and animals. If they dont have whom to sale for, they will not destroy our nature.
Sorry about my english, but is the best as I can get!
Thank you
Ricardo
Anti Brazilian Indian attitude Jackson, Gates
written by Bernadette Nata, March 23, 2008

Re: Bill Gates and Jesse Jackson

Denouncing my past raceline when I was planning on running for a political position.
Denouncing the Indians existance on Brazil's East Coast in the Past and fewer pure blood today. Contributing to their theories by influencing the govenment, lobbyists and contributing to to other racial and culture groups to run their groups on this Anti Indian behavior.

Also contributing in our books, History, College and Culture to substantiate their opinions. This must Stop Gates Jacskon have no right to tell my niece, my family by buying people for the last 23 yrs to remove my past and current racial identity to cover up abuse, neglect, adultery, and to misuse investigators to label people insane for not adhering to their theories.

Gates is playing supreme God worldwide and dictating their govenments.
Stop taking Bill Gates Environmental monies Anti INdian
written by Bernadette Nata, March 23, 2008
Denouncing the Indian Tribe of Brazil on Brazil's East coast in the past and their
(fewer in numbers) presence. He has defamed my own race identity and an accomplice to the truth as to why he HATED Bernadette Nata so much when his PC Excel investigators covered the truth as to what was taking place in my residence.
Also in this agenda the biggest racist cop Dennis Clisham of Naugatuck, CT known for porn, racial comments and yet the Union defends this trash who retired with billions on a polic chief salary that's justice and America. Money talks.

The Ana Mota story line and Ms. Orange instead of being honest regarding any affair they sided with these big wigs on the ground that Bernadette Nata would be stripped of her credibility while the ex Francisco Nata would go out and play with his friends and whatever. This is illegal to use billions, attorneys, lobbying, and influencing to interfere in a private marriage and to promote Anti Indian behavior on Brazil.

The massacres of these Indians are being ignored by black extremists and Gates How much more bloodshed is it going to take to substantiate a theory of racelines or existance? Who is doing the killing and for what.

We are all people the world is not compromised of just black and white.
My family was never black and white so why do they not listen.
The Indians on the East Coast of Brazil are fewer pure bred but never the less still there.

To affiliate Brazilians as a black and white country is wrong and I will not let this lobbying continue for ulterior motives. It is a multiculture and a diversified culuture. Let us show some respect for these Indians and stop taking their attributes away from them. Their festivals of Iemanja replaced for Black Brazilians and this trend continues due to heavy capital that is in the hands of black groups or entertainers. Their festivals, their teachings of medicine, herbs survival. Worship of the water, sun, moon.

Dennis Clisham's pictures and false motive for the ex or political party after harrassment, contributing and the scheming of running that "candidate"

Write comment

security code
Write the displayed characters


busy
 
Joomla 1.5 Templates by Joomlashack