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Late Wages Lead Brazil Workers to Take Over Factory Where Lula Once Worked PDF Print E-mail
2007 - April 2007
Written by Marcela Souza   
Wednesday, 11 April 2007 19:26

Brazilian company Fris Moldu Car Workers at the Fris-Moldu-Car plant outside of São Paulo have occupied the factory since February 21 to press their demand for unpaid wages, and have now begun camping out in front of the facility. For more than six weeks, the dispute has paralyzed production.

This plant, which today has 290 employees, once employed 2,000 workers making auto parts for Volkswagen and GM. Before the current confrontation, it also produced for big international carmakers like Fiat, Honda and Mitsubishi.

But, the factory is perhaps better known for an illustrious former lathe operator who worked there - none other than the current President of Brazil, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva.

Thanks to his career as a trade unionist and president of the metalworkers union, when he led the major industrial strikes of 1978-1980, Lula left his factory job to become a federal deputy, a founder of the Workers Party (PT) and, finally, the occupant of the presidential palace, a position to which he was re-elected last year.

It is profoundly significant in terms of the real implications of his government's policies for the Brazilian working class as a whole that his former workmates at Fris-Moldu-Car today confront conditions of complete instability. They have not been paid for weeks and many do not know how they can continue to support their families.

The workers have maintained their struggle through significant sacrifice and courage, organizing themselves into continuous shifts of 30 each to maintain control of the facility. They are determined to prevent the employers from resuming production without first paying them their back wages and to block any attempt by the bosses to sell off the factory's machinery.

The occupation has been threatened by both the courts and the police riot squads. A judge accepted false allegations by the bosses that the workers are damaging the factory. In reality, the basis of the charges was a provocation carried out by one of the company's security guards, who took off with a television, some carpets and a telephone. Incredibly, the court accepted this as evidence that the workers were "vandalizing property" and issued an order that they leave the factory.

It is worth noting that the judge's actions are entirely in line with the policies of the former Fris-Moldu-Car worker, Lula, who bragged recently that only a government of ex-union leaders like his could successfully implement a new law sharply restricting the right to strike.

Now there is both a workers commission guarding the facility from inside and an employers' commission. The situation remains permanently tense, convincing the workers that the only way to guarantee the security of those inside was for others to set up the permanent camp at the factory's gates.

The employers have made various proposals to resolve the crisis. One of these was to sell off two of the factory's machines in order to raise a minimal amount of capital. It would be accompanied by the layoff of a section of the workforce, with a small amount of compensation and the possibility of returning if production recovered. The workers rejected this scheme.

Union Passivity

One of the things that has emerged most clearly in the struggle of the Fris-Moldu-Car workers is the passivity of the metalworkers union of the "ABC" region, the industrial suburbs of São Paulo - the union that Lula once led. The bureaucrats claim that they are supporting the strikers, but at no point have they made any attempt to mobilize the ranks of the union to defend the occupation.

According to the union, it made various attempts to negotiate a settlement with the company before the occupation and reached "various agreements to resolve the questions of back pay, health care, insurance ... There were some 15 agreements in six or seven months that were not carried out." The obvious question is why the union let some 15 agreements be violated without initiating any struggle.

The situation confronting the workers has been deteriorating steadily for the past several years, but the process accelerated significantly beginning in 2004, when José R. F. Rivielli, the company's current director, took over.

The workers have gone unpaid since January. Employer social security and other labor benefits contributions guaranteed by law also went unpaid for no less than seven years. For the past eight months, the company has also reneged on payments into the health plan. Management of the factory's canteen, which is contracted out, has turned over five times in the recent period, apparently also because of the company's failure to meet payments.

Similarly, plant security has gone through five outside companies. "All of this was hurting us, resulting in terrible services and uncertainty; we already knew that the factory was headed towards bankruptcy," one worker said.

One of his co-workers on the picket line added, "Not even life insurance, which is guaranteed by law, was paid by the boss. Imagine, a company that doesn't pay for life insurance! And if someone dies inside in a work accident? How would we make out? Our families would have no guarantees whatsoever!"

All of this led the workers to the realization that they had no other means of defending their rights outside of occupying the plant. As another worker recounted, "In January, the bosses didn't even buy raw materials. We produced with what we had left here. Today, if we were to return to work, there would be no way to restart production. There are no more raw materials."

This situation has been growing worse since September 2006, when GM, which accounted for 60 percent of the plant's production, terminated its contract with Fris-Moldu-Car.

According to the workers, the situation has been gravely aggravated by the corruption and rapacious character of management. "Look," said one worker, "without the boss and this management, we ourselves could have run the factory much better."

Others charged management with diverting money out of the company. "In January, there were sales of 1 million reais [nearly half a million US dollars]. We, however, didn't see any of this money. The cost of paying our salaries would have been just 580,000 reais ... it was plenty to pay everybody. But we didn't see a cent of this money. We only saw their helicopter, their imported cars and the luxury enjoyed by management." The workers noted that the owner, Rivielli, also owns a bank.

One of the workers produced a photograph showing a company director seated on a couch with a transvestite on his lap. "They had management parties at all hours in the factory itself," one of the workers said angrily. "And these were their guests, transvestites."

Workers accused management of gross incompetence in running the company, while sucking out all of its resources. Damião, a member of the factory commission, said, "They had no new products. Things change in two or three years. Without new products they lose the client. Employees have developed new products, but everything went into a drawer and stayed there, lost."

Another worker commented, "There were delays in production and the company had to pay fines. The carmaker, GM or Volkswagen, needed the part on that day, and if the part wasn't there on that day, they had to pay a fine for delaying production. Then they would blame us, the workers." These accusations, in turn, would be used as justifications for not paying out the installments of back wages that were agreed to.

The courts had set March 14 as a deadline for seizing the company's assets, but the process has been continually delayed and postponed. The workers in their majority express the opinion that the court should guarantee their control of the factory, in order to restart production without management.

Their immediate concern is to keep the machinery and installation intact. "Now he - the boss - has already taken out everything he had to take," said one worker. "He took it all away and left us in this situation. He shouldn't come back. He's over there in Santos with his helicopter ... That's the way it is: he came, cleaned up everything, and took off with everything."

The occupation and encampment in front of the plant are being maintained, in the words of one of those guarding the factory "so that there isn't any removal of the equipment, but also to guarantee the security of the means of production and to not give any room for an attack on the workers themselves." Another added, "United, we won't let anything more out of here."

Some of the workers are putting forward the perspective of creating a cooperative. There already exists the example of the Conforja plant in Diadema, a nearby town. "At the beginning they suffered losses, until they organized everything, winning back their clients, and today it seems that they are even hiring," said one worker.

Another worker commented, laughing, "If Lula, who was our colleague, who worked here, all dirty like us, can be president and administer the country, if he can even meet Bush and make international deals, we can run the factory and do very well for ourselves."

This article was originally published at the World Socialist Web Site - www.wsws.org.



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Simply Unreal...
written by bo, April 12, 2007
especially when I've seen this kind of thing happen to state and federal employees here in brazil. Just wouldn't cut it in the U.S., you wouldn't be able to keep your employees.
NUM DA MAIS ASSIM
written by POBREZINHA DA ROCINHA, April 12, 2007
a gente trabaia sem sê pago, isso é pussiveu só no braziu i na china
wee work witout bein paid, that is possibly just in braziu and chine smilies/cry.gif
Manufacturing Jobs
written by João da Silva, April 12, 2007
This is just one case that has come to the lime light. I am sure that here are several factories in Brazil that are confronting similar situation. When we are selling rawmaterial to China and importing finished goods, you have to expect the factories to close resulting in the loss of jobs in the manufacturing sector.Some firms fire their staff and pay all the "indenizações" and close their business. Others opt to continue giving false hopes to their workers and thus prolonging their agony.

I keep on wondering: Where are we going to find employment for our young engineers,trained machinists,etc?
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written by bo, April 12, 2007
I keep on wondering: Where are we going to find employment for our young engineers,trained machinists,etc?




the U.S.?
What do you mean, bo?
written by MS, April 12, 2007
"especially when I've seen this kind of thing happen to state and federal employees here in brazil. "

I didn't understand your post.
To: Bo
written by João da Silva, April 12, 2007
the U.S.?


No,right here in Brazil.As sugar cane cutters and elected officials (Federal,State and Municipal levels) smilies/grin.gif
Apparently there is no ACLU or lawyers interested in class action law suites, or a Department of Justice
written by AES, April 12, 2007
It is against the law for an employer to not pay wages, earned, by employees. In the U.S. that constitutes theft and is punishable by fine and or imprisonment, especially where the employers have meddled, spent, the deductions made to the IRS. The penalties for which are years in jail and tens of thousands of dollars in fines for the CEO's.
Litigate or death
written by AES, April 12, 2007
I think Switzerland is hiring. I know Motel 6 is looking for graduate engineers to work in maintenance and housekeeping.
So?
written by crack, April 12, 2007
I hope they burnt some US flags.
Crack
written by AES, April 12, 2007
It would be better to burn the asses of the thieving CEO's and management in a court of Law. Confiscate their property, sell it and pay what is owed.
To:AES/Apparently there is no ACLU or lawyers interested in class action law suites, or a Department of Justice
written by João da Silva, April 12, 2007
Hi AES, It is me again. I dont know how long you have been living in Brazil and it is an interesting point you have made. So let me try to give some clarifications:

1) Yes, we do have a Special Tribunal for labor (Justiça do Trabalho) and the members of this Tribunal are well paid to take care of the interests of the workers like those of Fris-Moldu-Car.

2) In reality, they are very strict on the small local business owners while the big ones really dont give a s**t about any labor laws. When confronted with law suits, they simply send them to the higher court in Brasilia, where it takes years to settle. By then a worker is dead and gone.

3)Most of the traditional business houses in Brazil have folded or are folding because of mismanagement,which is no fault of the workers. Unfortunately the workers do not realize that the country has antiquated labor laws that neither benefit them nor the bosses.

4) I know instances where good small businesses had to close,because of the labor disputes and the owners losing all their properties.

5) I can go on and on,but to put it in a nutshell, I wouldnt start any business in Brazil unless the labor laws are modified and the government does not stop treating the small business owners as thieves and "Capitalistic Pigs"

6) Regarding the employees of Fris-Moldu-Car, I wish them all the best. May be our President who was their colleague in their factory could help them out.


Laugh...laugh....laugh !
written by CH.C., April 13, 2007
- The company is NOT FOREIGN OWNED....BUT LOCALLY OWNED BY RIVIELLI !
- Had it been foreign owned, NO doubt that the various judgments and government involvment, would have accused and penalized the company and far more criticized !
- The all factory is 290 employees. A drop in the Ocean. Better close such a messy company. But closing a company in Brazil is next to impossible !
- Brazilians with only half brains, have not realized yet that out of 1 million Reais Revenues, there are other costs than their 58 % salary share ! Such as suppliers, electricity and TAXES that Brazil love so much !!!!!!

It also look like that wherever Lula went (union, companies, political party and government) corruption has been generalized !!!!!!!!
Better yet....wherever he went.....the desert and poverty followed...but with still more corruption !!!!!!!


Therefore.........Good luck.....Brazil !!!!!
Joao: The paradigm of Small Business and U.S. econimics. Lessez Faire. It would be wise for the Government to not hinder Small Business. It is a future to Brazil.
written by AES, April 13, 2007
How important are small businesses tothe U.S. economy?Small firms:• Represent 99.7 percent of all employer firms.• Employ half of all private sector employees. • Pay more than 45 percent of total U.S. private payroll.• Have generated 60 to 80 percent of net new jobs annually over the last decade.• Create more than 50 percent of nonfarm private gross domestic product (GDP).• Supplied more than 23 percent of the total value of federalprime contracts in FY 2005.• Produce 13 to 14 times more patents per employee thanlarge patenting firms. These patents are twice as likely aslarge firm patents to be among the one percent most cited.• Are employers of 41 percent of high tech workers (such asscientists, engineers, and computer workers).• Are 53 percent home-based and 3 percent franchises.• Made up 97 percent of all identified exporters and pro-duced 28.6 percent of the known export value in FY 2004.Sources: In 2005, there were approximately 25.8 million businessesin the United States, according to Office of Advocacy esti-mates. Census data show that there were 5.8 million firmswith employees and 18.6 million without employees in 2003,the most recent year with data. Applying the sole proprietor-ship growth rates to the nonemployer figures and similarDepartment of Labor growth rates to the employer figures pro-duces the 25.8 million figure. Small firms with fewer than 500employees represent 99.9 percent of the 25.8 million business-es (including both employers and nonemployers), as the mostrecent data show there are nearly 17,000 large businesses.How do regulations affect small firms?Very small firms with fewer than 20 employees spend 45percent more per employee than larger firms to comp
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written by bo, April 13, 2007
What do you mean, bo?
written by MS, 2007-04-12 10:06:46

"especially when I've seen this kind of thing happen to state and federal employees here in brazil. "



My ex works for the federal gov't., numerous friends that I have work for the city, or the state. There have been numerous times when they're paychecks have been late. In the case of my ex I only remember one time, but in the case of my friends who work for the state and the city, it happens frequently.
As far as small business in brazil....
written by bo, April 13, 2007
João is 100% correct. The labor laws in brazil are ludicrous. If any employee of a small to medium sized business takes a business owner to court in brazil, the employee will win, plain and simple. The laws are completely, 100%, in favor of the employee. The employee can be 100% in the wrong, can be lying, and he will win. The employee is not made to show proof of his accusations, the presumption of guilt is made against the business owner in which HE must prove his innocence.

Even for those that have maids, which is most of the middle class and above, even lower middle class has them, if a maid actually takes her employer to court, 99% of the time she'll win. Never pay a maid in cash, never not sign her card. Do things 100% legally and make certain you have documents for everything.
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written by bo, April 13, 2007
There have been numerous times when they're paychecks have been late.



their paychecks...
AES
written by João da Silva, April 13, 2007
The paradigm of Small Business and U.S. econimics. Lessez Faire. It would be wise for the Government to not hinder Small Business. It is a future to Brazil.


The data provided by you prove beyond any doubt that small and medium sized businesses and Sole ownership firms are the back bone of a country´s economy. It also applies in many other countries like Canada, Australia,GB,NZ, etc; Even in emerging countries like India, the biggest contributors to the economy (especially the knowledge based economy),are very small firms and individuals.

A State cant give salaried jobs to all its citizens,but it is possible to facilitate creation of jobs by several means. In order to do it, we need intelligent leadership and bold decisions are needed.Only the time will tell if our leaders have the courage to implement the well succeeded economic policies of U.S. and other countries I lised above.

BTW, when I posted my question:"Where are we going to find employment for our young engineers,trained machinists,etc? ", I was very serious and looking forward to some suggestions-though not a complete solution. Thanks AES.
Bo/AES
written by João da Silva, April 13, 2007
As far as small business in brazil....
written by bo, 2007-04-13 04:22:25


Somewhere I read that on an average the number of work related suits filed in the Special Tribunal for Labor PER YEAR in Brazil is around 2 million. In U.S and France it is 75,000. Japan has the lowest in the world.Just 3000.

To put it in a nutshell, it is profitable for an employee to work for a couple of years for a small company, force it to fire him (because the company has to pay a fine of 40% on his pension funds to HIM and an additional 10% to the GOVERNMENT) and still make extra money by filing a suit on trumped up charges!
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written by e harmony, April 13, 2007
CEO
written by AES, 2007-04-12 21:16:16

CEO's of American major companies make millions compared to 'employees'. The contention being that their wisdom and expertise is worth the expendature. At leat get the income tax . Then throw their collective asses in jail from income tax evasion. Start from the top. Give the department of income tax a percentage of every real they collect. Motivate them. Everybody in the U.S. has both respect and fear of the IRS.


Yes and no. Everyone in the United States is required to pay taxes on income. The popular perception to people in the United States is that lawfully gained income or income produced "above the table" is taxable and to be reported to the IRS. Actually, all income gained "under the table" is required to be reported to the IRS and is taxable, however probably 99% of Americans producing income under the table neither report it or consequently pay taxes on it. No doubt it must be a several billion (if not in the hundreds of billions) dollar parallel economy operating within the geographical boundaries of the United States. Unlawfully gained income, such as through prostitution, illegal narcotics sales, numbers running, and et cetera is suppose to be reported to the IRS so the income can be taxed. However, those involved in profitable enterprises or economies classified as illegal in the United States and punishable by fines and or incarceration don't report their income. We can say, with the United States being the number one consumer of cocaine in the world, and with the parallel economy of cocaine distribution and sales in the U.S. alone being perhaps larger than some nation states GDP, that "fear" of the IRS can be a subject of exaggeration at times. However, it is true, many legitimate business do have at least some degree of fear and respect for the IRS (whether that be large or small depending on the persons involved), primarily because the IRS is the one U.S. law enforcement agency that goes after the rich just as much as it does the poor. In fact the IRS in the U.S. may actually target the rich more than they do the poor.

Now regarding not paying employees, this if fairly frequent in the United States amongst small contractors in the construction field. It is rare amongst large construction contractors or factories to not pay their employees on a due pay date though. Work being more accessible in the U.S. workers will just leave and find another job - even if its a much lower paying job.

I've worked for several small contractors in the past were pay came a week or two late (not usually longer than that though). I also worked for one guy that was outright ripping his employees off - basically he was banking and pocketing our overtime, claiming he would give it to us for Christmas. I contacted some city or state agency - I can't remember the name - but they operate to act as both a negotiator and as an investigator and judge. If the contractor is found to have acted fraudulently then the contractor is subject to a large fine and required to pay the employee(s) back pay with interest. However that can take a long time, so it is encouraged that the contractor and former employees negotiate a price on their lost wages. That's how it was in my case at least.

This case in Brazil is really bad though. Extremely bad. However, far better than what Russia was not to long ago. Just a decade or so ago, Russian companies were paying their employees in firewood or food or other things like that. The economy had collapsed into a barter economy. Brazil's is more robust and sophisticated - resembling perhaps a more humane one than the factory economies of the United States in the late 1800's and early 1900's. Pinkerton detective agencies built their rep**ation partially, by breaking legs for factory owners in the U.S. At their height, the Pinkerton's were larger than the U.S. Army in terms of male effectives on payroll. Gun battles even broke out between striking workers and Pinkerton troopers - literally sieges. Yet the U.S. economy emerged as it has, yet the Russian economy is seeming to bounce back.

The term "Third World" by the way was a term democratic capitalist countries (major players in power not "welfare queens") hoisted upon communist countries. Socialist countries they referred to as the "Second World" and countries run by democracy they referred to as "First World" nations.Those terms themselves have an ideological baggage to it that are as about objective as usage of the terms "wet back," "spic," or "n*gger."
e harmony
written by AES, April 13, 2007
It will be tax evasion that will bring, like Capone et al, the trafficers down. Computing systems are so integrated and progressing at such speed, that you can run, but in the near future you cannot hide. And the U.S. does not 'f**k around' they will freeze your account, whether you are a nation or an individual.
Bo
written by A brazilian, April 13, 2007
The laws are completely, 100%, in favor of the employee. The employee can be 100% in the wrong, can be lying, and he will win. The employee is not made to show proof of his accusations, the presumption of guilt is made against the business owner in which HE must prove his innocence.


This is one of those situations that you see the ill intentions of some. If the employess were not protected by the law then Bo would say that law in Brazil doesn't work, they are "slaves", etc. The same Bo-like bulls**t we have seen so often.

Now, since the law works, he says it's "bad" because it's 100% in favor of the employees.
No Abe Razillion Liar...
written by bo, April 14, 2007
being protected by law is one thing, but the law needs to be fair in regards to both employees and employers. Ask any small business owner in brazil what he thinks about brazil's labor laws. Many have nightmarish stories to tell.
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written by Ric, April 14, 2007
In any area, set the bar too high and people will simply drop out because they can´t comply. The authorities make no secret of the fact that the current labor laws are in part, designed to attempt to correct the abuses suffered by the poor at the hand of robber barons and Big House [latifundiarios] in previous generations. But the guy down the street that fixes fridges but doesn´t give official receipts can survive with his family and the kid next door doing the work, but if forced to get legal, hire an accountant, and jump thru all the hoops, he absolutely could not stay in business with the volume and net that he now generates.

Brazil will continue as it now is because that´s the only way it can continue, under present legislation.
To:Ric
written by João da Silva, April 14, 2007
Brazil will continue as it now is because that´s the only way it can continue, under present legislation.


Well said,Ric. I would slightly modify your statement and say "Brazil will continue to be stagnant as it is now...............".
Truly a shame...
written by bo, April 14, 2007
that honest business owners have to suffer the consequences of admittedly unfair labor laws simply because the abuses are to the extreme.
To:Bo/Truly a shame
written by João da Silva, April 14, 2007
that honest business owners have to suffer the consequences of admittedly unfair labor laws simply because the abuses are to the extreme.


I am happy that you share my thoughts that there are plenty of honest business owners.Unfortunately ,they are becoming rare species.

I was reading www.terra.com.br a few hours ago and there is an article titled "Eis o mensalão da Infraero". I wonder if the owner of the firm "Aeromídia" lodged a complaint out of patriotism or she was sick and tired of paying "Propina". I you have time, please do read it.
Tanks
written by Simpleton, April 14, 2007
Thanks Bo, JDS, Ric, maybe even E Harm (except for what he did in regards to the xmas bonus / OT pay promise - made some real bitchin turmoil that was not to the advantage of employees of honest companies in the area). Your observations, insites, focus of what the underlying problems and best for the future changes that are needed were among those things I discussed with the retired planning and economic devel gov official last trip. Till things change I'm more and more thinking I should put everything on hold. Taking a few young engineers under my wing to try to put something beneficial together that could really take off / produce many more jobs wasn't what I had had in mind to start with but maybe that might curry enough favor to get the ground floor built (assuming their parents or other relatives were suitably placed in the government).
To:Simpleton/TANKS
written by João da Silva, April 14, 2007
Simpleton, where the hell are you right now?. In U.S or Brazil?
Nowhere Man - you can't see me at all
written by Simpleton, April 14, 2007
More or less stuck in the middle - but not with you Velho Sabio.
Nove Sculpa JDS
written by Simpleton, April 14, 2007
I didn't mean to put you off by my reply. You asked two questions and I lacked specificity / directness in my response to both. (Besides, the ice chest just got re-stocked and a fresh one handed to me so I was a bit distracted.)

Your first question taken alone may require clarification. Did you mean to ask which hell I was in in mind, spirit, heart, body or soul? In the simplest of language usage and common conversational meaning (as reinforced by your second question which indicated that you were looking for a physical place) you clearly meant where was I in the corporal sense. I know it's not an answer but suffice it to say that at least in that I am not both places.

To:Simpleton
written by João da Silva, April 15, 2007
(Besides, the ice chest just got re-stocked and a fresh one handed to me so I was a bit distracted.)


That sounds interesting.These days, I have to get the cold ones from the ice box myself.

you clearly meant where was I in the corporal sense. I know it's not an answer but suffice it to say that at least in that I am not both places.


I meant in the physical sense.However, never mind. Wherever you are, have another cold one in my honor.Now I shall get one to drink in your honor!

Take care and have a great week end.
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written by e harmony, April 15, 2007
Tanks
written by Simpleton, 2007-04-14 15:09:57

Thanks Bo, JDS, Ric, maybe even E Harm (except for what he did in regards to the xmas bonus / OT pay promise - made some real bitchin turmoil that was not to the advantage of employees of honest companies in the area).


There was no "xmas bonus," the issue revolved around overtime not being on the bi-weekly paychecks. When I confronted one of the bosses about the discrepancy in my pay and hours he then informed me "they" bank the pay and give it out at Christmas time. No that is not satisfactory - especially when overtime was required - you give me my f*ckin money I worked for. That is not usual practice in the United States for a business - unless for some reason the employees ask or agree for the money per time to be banked.

In construction a company has to be able to float payroll (like any company of course). If the company is small, and also has smaller jobs, then it's not unusual for them to have paydays that run bi-weekly, this gives added time frame when dealing with payroll as relates to the contractor/company being paid by those that contract him/her for work. Companies with bigger bank accounts and or larger sized projects (also meaning in financial terms) can afford to institute weekly paydays to hourly workers (rather than employees on salary).

It might also be of worth note to mention that this is why smaller contractors rarely receive larger city, state, or federal contracts. Because the state and federal governments (I believe the city as well) will not pay a general contractor for at least 6 months, or so this is what I have been told, consequently every company from the general to the sub must be able to float payroll to its employees for at least 6 months.
To:e.harmony
written by João da Silva, April 15, 2007
We can say, with the United States being the number one consumer of cocaine in the world, and with the parallel economy of cocaine distribution and sales in the U.S. alone being perhaps larger than some nation states GDP, that "fear" of the IRS can be a subject of exaggeration at times.


I am really surprised at your statement. Is that really true that U.S is the Nº 1 consumer of Cocaine?. If so, is the government doing anything to curb the consumption,like the strict measures being taken against cigarettes?

It is rare amongst large construction contractors or factories to not pay their employees on a due pay date though. Work being more accessible in the U.S. workers will just leave and find another job - even if its a much lower paying job.


Here also,it is rare for the large construction companies and factories not to pay their employees on or before the pay date stipulated by law. However, it is common for the employees to leave the company after filing suits on trumped up charges,get unemployment insurance for 6 months and get another job.By then, they would have won the law suits against their previous employers and gotten extra money.

Of course,there are some entities that do not pay their employees on the stipulated date of the month. Apart from ill run companies, there are many State and Municipal governments that delay the payments and naturally they are above any labor laws or for that matter any laws.In such cases, the employees do not opt to leave,but continue remaining where they are.Because it is more profitable for them to stay there and continue harassing the law abiding citizens.
To:E harmony
written by João da Silva, April 15, 2007
It might also be of worth note to mention that this is why smaller contractors rarely receive larger city, state, or federal contracts. Because the state and federal governments (I believe the city as well) will not pay a general contractor for at least 6 months, or so this is what I have been told, consequently every company from the general to the sub must be able to float payroll to its employees for at least 6 months.



Here it depends on the company and its contacts with the city,state and federal govt entities.Many times you can get the payment even before you even start a project.
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written by e harmony, April 15, 2007
written by João da Silva, 2007-04-14 20:19:17
I am really surprised at your statement. Is that really true that U.S is the Nº 1 consumer of Cocaine?. If so, is the government doing anything to curb the consumption,like the strict measures being taken against cigarettes?


Lol. Is the Government doing anything? Yeah, the U.S. has 5% of the worlds population and 25% of the worlds incarcerated population. Source: http://www.commondreams.org/he...209-01.htm.

Some believe (not to say it is proven per se) the United States Government was involved in the explosion of cocaine/crack onto U.S. streets and more specifically - black neighborhoods - with the "Iran-Contra Affair."

In the U.S. if a person is convicted of selling illegal class narcotics like cocaine, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) will confiscate all their property: homes, money, cars, boats, jewlery, whatever. The U.S. is also currently involved in fighting a semi-covert war in Colombia against rebel organizations involved in the narcotics business. This semi-covert war - and I say semi-covert because it is not exactly covert but it is not widely talked about or known by the average U.S. citizen either - this war involves U.S. commandos operating as trainers to Colombian forces and probably also as observers. The semi-covert war is also an "outsourced" war, by that I mean the U.S. Government has payrolled former U.S. commandos to work as mercienaries and also former U.S. soldiers with training in vital skills as piloting helicopters. Back on mainland United States, the Coast Guard in states like Florida, and the country's DEA, Vice Squads, and Sheriff departments throughout the rest of the nation are at the forefront of the fight state side.

The United States is the #1 consumer of cocaine in the world and Brazil is the #2 consumer of cocaine in the world. In Europe, while cocaine is used by many, heroin seems to have been the more dominate narcotic. I'm not sure what narcotic is more popular in various parts of Asia and Africa - but certainly Thialand seems to have a thriving narcotics trade right amongst her citizens. I say this because to my knowledge, many or most of Thailands HIV/AIDS population are IV drug users. (In most the world by the way, HIV follows a heterosexual pattern "lifestyle," while in the United States it has higher rates amongst homosexual males).
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written by bo, April 15, 2007
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written by e harmony, 2007-04-15 01:55:47


Lol. Is the Government doing anything? Yeah, the U.S. has 5% of the worlds population and 25% of the worlds incarcerated population. Source: http://www.commondreams.org/he...09-01.htm.



And that little factoid doesn't prove that the U.S. has a "throw 'em in jail" culture, as much as it proves that other countries have a policy of systematic impunity.
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written by e harmony, April 15, 2007


The United States has gone jail and arrest crazy - more so in some cities than others. It's getting to the point you can't do anything without you being tried in criminal court for a felony conviction. Unless of course you're arrested for a multi-million dollar white collar scam, then you'll be tried in civil court and ordered to pay a financial restitution. Pays to be rich and educated. http://cbs5.com/watercooler/wa...02016.html (13 girl in New York handcuffed and arrested for writing on her desk in class - a novelty story but a type of novelty that is becoming more and more prevalent)
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written by e harmony, April 15, 2007
That cbs5 story was in reply to bo's comments below.

written by bo, 2007-04-15 04:11:47

And that little factoid doesn't prove that the U.S. has a "throw 'em in jail" culture, as much as it proves that other countries have a policy of systematic impunity.
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written by e harmony, April 15, 2007
written by bo, 2007-04-15 04:11:47

And that little factoid doesn't prove that the U.S. has a "throw 'em in jail" culture, as much as it proves that other countries have a policy of systematic impunity.



6 year old girl handcuffed, arrested, and jailed on felony charges after being disruptive in her kindergarten class in Florida. March 2007.
Source: http://www.cfnews13.com/news/l...ested.html

To place this in perspective, a felony charge greatly effects a persons ability to gain employment throughout their life, it limits them to either low paying jobs or to better paying jobs in limited fields like construction. It also disqualifies one from getting student financial aid through I believe what is it called... the Stanford loan and also bars one from the Pell grant I believe too (but don't quote me on that).

Many good paying white collar jobs one can not get if they have a felony on their record. A person with a felony will even have trouble easily finding blue collar work - minus mopping floors - unless he or she is skilled in a construction trade. Any court martial in in the U.S. military, if found guilty that is, is an automatic felony. So that is the degree and consequence of charges this 6 year old girl was or is facing.

Webster's dictionary says this of felony.
treason, treachery < felo, FELON]] a major crime, as murder, arson, rape, etc., for which statute usually provides a greater punishment than for misdemeanor: the usual minimum penalty is imprisonment for one year.
6 year old girl handcuffed, arrested, and jailed ...... !!!!!!!!
written by ch.c., April 15, 2007
In Brazil their deaths squads will have handled the problem their own way.
And nothing would never had been published in the medias.
Just look at the deaths squads they arrested in the North of Brazil.
They "only killed" several hundreds people during several years !

And deaths squads happen to exist in many Brazilians cities !!!!
Ch.c
written by AES, April 15, 2007
What business is it of yours.
e harmony: 'The monster that devoured Cleavland' and 'yellow journalism'.
written by AES, April 15, 2007
The six year old weighed 149 pounds and was 6 feet tall. Who knows the circumstances. The child probably should have been straight jacketed and given a tranquilizer then brought to a psychiatric hospital for evaluation. The 'buzz word' is six year old child. Not some cuddly little charming 'Leave it to Beaver', but some chair throwing, knife weilding, violent physically harmful being. Age will ultimately be the deciding factor in the case and that resident psychiatric treatment will be the deciding factor. Or some regimen of drug therapy. It is 'yellow journalism' 6YEAR OLD HAND CUFFED kind of like the Duke La Cross team. The felony part is procedural, though they used to hang 6 year olds in England in the 18th century for stealing a loaf of bread.
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written by e harmony, April 16, 2007
e harmony: 'The monster that devoured Cleavland' and 'yellow journalism'.
written by AES, 2007-04-15 18:07:30

The six year old weighed 149 pounds and was 6 feet tall. Who knows the circumstances. The child probably should have been straight jacketed and given a tranquilizer then brought to a psychiatric hospital for evaluation. The 'buzz word' is six year old child. Not some cuddly little charming 'Leave it to Beaver', but some chair throwing, knife weilding, violent physically harmful being. Age will ultimately be the deciding factor in the case and that resident psychiatric treatment will be the deciding factor. Or some regimen of drug therapy. It is 'yellow journalism' 6YEAR OLD HAND CUFFED kind of like the Duke La Cross team. The felony part is procedural, though they used to hang 6 year olds in England in the 18th century for stealing a loaf of bread.


AES, what is "yellow journalism"? I'm not familiar with that term.

Anyways, did the news source report this incident incorrectly, and the person was well over the age if 6 or something?

Most cops, in my time, h*ll I would even say today in my city, would not arrest a small child in kindergarten (if that is the real case in this Florida incident) for acting up and fighting or throwing things. Times have changed, because in my time - during grade school - the teachers and or Nuns handled that kind of thing. smilies/cheesy.gif
e harmony
written by AES, April 16, 2007
yellow journalism
n.
Journalism that exploits, distorts, or exaggerates the news to create sensations and attract readers.
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written by e harmony, April 16, 2007
6 year old girl handcuffed, arrested, and jailed ...... !!!!!!!!
written by ch.c., 2007-04-15 17:21:16

In Brazil their deaths squads will have handled the problem their own way.
And nothing would never had been published in the medias.
Just look at the deaths squads they arrested in the North of Brazil.
They "only killed" several hundreds people during several years !

And deaths squads happen to exist in many Brazilians cities !!!!



Fine, whether that be the case or not, my point and was regarding the high incarceration numbers in the United States.

As seen below, some neighborhoods in the U.S. have large numbers of people either going to prison or coming out of prison. This particular neighborhood in the story, has a male population wherein 75% of the men in their 30's are ex-convicts.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/...&cset=true

Excerpt.
A report issued last week by the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee showed the unintended consequences of cracking down on crime. Focusing on a single ZIP code in the north of the city, the study from the university's Employment and Training Institute found that two-thirds of men in their 30s who live in that neighborhood have been imprisoned. Sixty-three percent of the residents have no high school diploma or equivalent, and only 4 percent have a valid driver's license.

E Harmony: Defining Yellow Journalism
written by AES, April 16, 2007
The question is how big was this 6 year old, how much of a threat was it truly creating. Some 6 year olds, especially of African descent are much larger than their counter parts, this is not racist, but factual. Africans in America were bred, like livestock, for strength, size physical prowess and emotinal disoposition. As racist as this is, it is the truth of how Africans were bred on American plantations. They were bred as any barnyard animal for particular properties. That a nearly six foot powerful out of control 6 year old could have been a physical threat to the life and safety of others is hard to fathom. One of two things are true, either this child was a physical threat, to the physical well being of those involved, or it was not and the police irationally and fascistically acted. In the U.S. all the actions of the police are under the scrutiny of being sued in a court of law for unlawful and unreasonable action. Let us assume that one of the two were correct, either the 6 year old, was in fact a threat, or that the police with the knowledge that their behavior and precedure would be liable to scrutiny and lawsuit acted without reasonable and probable cause. I am sure the parents of the 6 year old will plead that a 6 year old could hardly be a threat, well, it depends on the 6 year old. A 6 year old psychopath or physical monster may indeed require restraint by handcuffs. It is a kind of sentamentalism to arbitrarily assume that all 6 year olds are quiescent loveable cheribum and that this is an inappropriate response by the police. Or in fact it was a necessary response to this particular 6 year old. It is not the age, it is the nature of the being, and the danger that the being poses. It is easy to postulate that all 6 year olds are but children, but some 6 year olds are quite physically a threat to those around them, or have the physical ability to be such. It is also possible that the police are completely in a state of obfuscation and that the threat was illusory and the teacher and those responsible were incapable of making an edjucated judgement as to the reality and seriiousness of the threat. 6 YEAR OLD HAND CUFFED IN KINDERGARTEN is a headline that is designed to sell newspapers. And may or may not reflect the reality of the event. I am inclined to side with the reasonableness of the institution of both the school and the police. The consequences for making a mistake financially are grave in the U.S.
Prohibition is a proven detriment to the society at large.
written by AES, April 16, 2007
As far as I am concerned make drugs legal, go to a doctor and get a perscrition for cocaine or heroine, or canabis. Take the money away from the criminal. if you want to kill yourself, please go ahead. It is like prohibition to provide criminals the funds to conduct criminal enterprise, is ineffectual and detrimental to the society at large. Decriminalize drugs, addiction, and make it a medical issue and let the government profit from the sale and taxation. The cost to society of the consequences is miniscule to the cost to society of lost lives and monies expended in prisons. The cost is infinitely less to society to make it prescribible under medical supervision than under police supervision
GO BACK A CENTURY AND LEGALIZE EVERYTHING?
written by Ric, April 16, 2007
That´s the easy way. It might not be The Cowboy Way. An elitist solution which has a lot going for it, but until the gene pool was really cleaned up, one would have to stay off the streets in some areas and trade the Bimmer in for an armoured car. Not going to happen, for one thing because too many people would lose money.
To:e harmony
written by João da Silva, April 16, 2007
AES, what is "yellow journalism"? I'm not familiar with that term.


Harmony, I thought you were a born American or from some other country that has English as a national language.I am a bit surprised.

If you are a Brazilian, I can easily translate for you. Yellow journalism = Jornalismo marrom.
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written by e harmony, April 16, 2007
E Harmony: Defining Yellow Journalism
written by AES, 2007-04-15 20:40:22

The question is how big was this 6 year old, how much of a threat was it truly creating. Some 6 year olds, especially of African descent are much larger than their counter parts, this is not racist, but factual. Africans in America were bred, like livestock, for strength, size physical prowess and emotinal disoposition. As racist as this is, it is the truth of how Africans were bred on American plantations. They were bred as any barnyard animal for particular properties. That a nearly six foot powerful out of control 6 year old could have been a physical threat to the life and safety of others is hard to fathom. One of two things are true, either this child was a physical threat, to the physical well being of those involved, or it was not and the police irationally and fascistically acted. In the U.S. all the actions of the police are under the scrutiny of being sued in a court of law for unlawful and unreasonable action. Let us assume that one of the two were correct, either the 6 year old, was in fact a threat, or that the police with the knowledge that their behavior and precedure would be liable to scrutiny and lawsuit acted without reasonable and probable cause. I am sure the parents of the 6 year old will plead that a 6 year old could hardly be a threat, well, it depends on the 6 year old. A 6 year old psychopath or physical monster may indeed require restraint by handcuffs. It is a kind of sentamentalism to arbitrarily assume that all 6 year olds are quiescent loveable cheribum and that this is an inappropriate response by the police. Or in fact it was a necessary response to this particular 6 year old. It is not the age, it is the nature of the being, and the danger that the being poses. It is easy to postulate that all 6 year olds are but children, but some 6 year olds are quite physically a threat to those around them, or have the physical ability to be such. It is also possible that the police are completely in a state of obfuscation and that the threat was illusory and the teacher and those responsible were incapable of making an edjucated judgement as to the reality and seriiousness of the threat. 6 YEAR OLD HAND CUFFED IN KINDERGARTEN is a headline that is designed to sell newspapers. And may or may not reflect the reality of the event. I am inclined to side with the reasonableness of the institution of both the school and the police. The consequences for making a mistake financially are grave in the U.S.


First, I agree with you, the title of the article is meant to capture the readers attention, of course this is true of any title above a newspaper article.

However, I'm not so sure I can agree with you on this 6 year old being a threat thing, unless the 6 year old was wielding a gun or threatening another child with a knife. I suspect the 6 year old was being a 6 year old. This kind of reminds me how everything on a playground needs to be plastic or rubber now, and how if a child is not strapped into a child protective car seat when riding in a car it is the end of the world kind of thing. Now I'm not suggesting any of those things are not good advancements, nor am I suggesting they should not be used, however with some of the views today in the U.S. one wonders or fathoms how kids of my generation or kids that were baby boomers and WWII generation ever made it to adulthood alive! lol. smilies/cheesy.gif This is all kind of like suggesting grown adults can't restrain a 6 year old child gone wild. Every other generation of school teachers and adults seem to have been able to do it and survive the experience.

And AES, I've never seen a 6 year old child that was 6 ft tall, regardless if the child was Black American or not. Lol smilies/smiley.gif
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written by e harmony, April 16, 2007
To:e harmony
written by João da Silva, 2007-04-15 22:38:09

AES, what is "yellow journalism"? I'm not familiar with that term.



Harmony, I thought you were a born American or from some other country that has English as a national language.I am a bit surprised.

If you are a Brazilian, I can easily translate for you. Yellow journalism = Jornalismo marrom.


I'm born and raised American (USA). I just have never heard that term. But I'm a student of life, so I'm all ears to the meaning of it. smilies/smiley.gif
e harmony:
written by AES, April 16, 2007
When 6-year-old Desre’e Watson threw a tantrum in her kindergarten class a couple of weeks ago she could not have known that the full force of the law would be brought down on her and that she would be carted off by the police as a felon.
But that’s what happened in this small, backward city in central Florida. According to the authorities, there were no other options.
“The student became violent,” said Frank Mercurio, the no-nonsense chief of the Avon Park police. “She was yelling, screaming — just being uncontrollable. Defiant.”
“But she was 6,” I said.
The chief’s reply came faster than a speeding bullet: “Do you think this is the first 6-year-old we’ve arrested?”
The child’s tantrum occurred on the morning of March 28 at the Avon Elementary School. According to the police report, “Watson was upset and crying and wailing and would not leave the classroom to let them study, causing a disruption of the normal class activities.”
After a few minutes, Desre’e was, in fact, taken to another room. She was “isolated,” the chief said. But she would not calm down. She flailed away at the teachers who tried to control her. She pulled one woman’s hair. She was kicking.
I asked the chief if anyone had been hurt. “Yes,” he said. At least one woman reported “some redness.”
After 20 minutes of this “uncontrollable” behavior, the police were called in. At the sight of the two officers, Chief Mercurio said, Desre’e “tried to take flight.”
She went under a table. One of the police officers went after her. Each time the officer tried to grab her to drag her out, Desre’e would pull her legs away, the chief said.
Ultimately the child was no match for Avon Park’s finest. The cops pulled her from under the table and handcuffed her. The officers were not fooling around. In the eyes of the cops the 6-year-old was a criminal, and in Avon Park she would be treated like any other felon.
There was a problem, though. The handcuffs were not manufactured with kindergarten kids in mind. The chief explained: “You can’t handcuff them on their wrists because their wrists are too small, so you have to handcuff them up by their biceps.”
As I sat listening to Chief Mercurio in a spotless, air-conditioned conference room at the Avon Park police headquarters, I had the feeling that I had somehow stumbled into the middle of a skit on “Saturday Night Live.” The chief seemed like the most reasonable of men, but what was coming out of his mouth was madness.
He handed me a copy of the police report: black female. Six years old. Thin build. Dark complexion.
Desre’e was put in the back of a patrol car and driven to the police station. “Then,” said Chief Mercurio, “she was transported to central booking, which is the county jail.”
The child was fingerprinted and a mug shot was taken. “Those are the normal procedures for anyone who is arrested,” the chief said.
Desre’e was charged with battery on a school official, which is a felony, and two misdemeanors: disruption of a school function and resisting a law enforcement officer. After a brief stay at the county jail, she was released to the custody of her mother.
The arrest of this child, who should have been placed in the care of competent, comforting professionals rather than being hauled off to jail, is part of an outlandish trend of criminalizing very young children that has spread to many school districts and law enforcement agencies across the country.
A highly disproportionate number of those youngsters, like Desre’e, are black.
Last spring a number of civil rights organizations collaborated on a study of disciplinary practices in Florida schools and concluded that many of them, “like many districts in other states, have turned away from traditional education-based disciplinary methods — such as counseling, after-school detention, or extra homework assignments — and are looking to the legal system to handle even the most minor transgressions.”
Once you adopt the mindset that ordinary childhood misbehavior is criminal behavior, it’s easy to start seeing young children as somehow monstrous.
“Believe me when I tell you,” said Chief Mercurio, “a 6-year-old can inflict injury to you just as much as any other person.”

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written by bo, April 16, 2007
written by AES, 2007-04-15 20:40:22

The question is how big was this 6 year old, how much of a threat was it truly creating. Some 6 year olds, especially of African descent are much larger than their counter parts, this is not racist, but factual. Africans in America were bred, like livestock, for strength, size physical prowess and emotinal disoposition. As racist as this is, it is the truth of how Africans were bred on American plantations. They were bred as any barnyard animal for particular properties. That a nearly six foot powerful out of control 6 year old could have been a physical threat to the life and safety of others is hard to fathom. One of two things are true, either this child was a physical threat, to the physical well being of those involved, or it was not and the police irationally and fascistically acted. In the U.S. all the actions of the police are under the scrutiny of being sued in a court of law for unlawful and unreasonable action. Let us assume that one of the two were correct, either the 6 year old, was in fact a threat, or that the police with the knowledge that their behavior and precedure would be liable to scrutiny and lawsuit acted without reasonable and probable cause. I am sure the parents of the 6 year old will plead that a 6 year old could hardly be a threat, well, it depends on the 6 year old. A 6 year old psychopath or physical monster may indeed require restraint by handcuffs. It is a kind of sentamentalism to arbitrarily assume that all 6 year olds are quiescent loveable cheribum and that this is an inappropriate response by the police. Or in fact it was a necessary response to this particular 6 year old. It is not the age, it is the nature of the being, and the danger that the being poses. It is easy to postulate that all 6 year olds are but children, but some 6 year olds are quite physically a threat to those around them, or have the physical ability to be such. It is also possible that the police are completely in a state of obfuscation and that the threat was illusory and the teacher and those responsible were incapable of making an edjucated judgement as to the reality and seriiousness of the threat. 6 YEAR OLD HAND CUFFED IN KINDERGARTEN is a headline that is designed to sell newspapers. And may or may not reflect the reality of the event. I am inclined to side with the reasonableness of the institution of both the school and the police. The consequences for making a mistake financially are grave in the U.S.



Exactly AES, and that is the difference. Whether one is wrongly found guilty of a crime and incarcerated, or a situation like described above, there ARE consequences in the form of financial restitution and also jail time if one would be found to have fabricated evidence or any other illegal action. I feel quite sure that some lawyer in florida has already pounced on this case and will try to make little miss Watson's family the next millionaire in Florida. The outcome will be interesting.

Leave it to E Sodomy to start posting remarks about the U.S. being the #1 cocaine consuming country, brazil is #2 btw, smilies/wink.gif and 6 year olds being arrested in Florida in response to an article about a brazilian company that hasn't paid wages to it's employees for months.

I guess the U.S. could adopt brazil's policy, and that would be that anyone under the age of 18, not matter how heinous the crime, never goes to prison, but a place for minors, and for a maximum of three years. Beleive me when I say, the criminals here in brazil well take advantage of this loop-hole in brazilian justice. Damn, it's hard for me to say, "brazilian justice". It's very rare, although believe it or not I have experienced it.
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written by e harmony, April 16, 2007
e harmony:
written by AES, 2007-04-16 01:35:19

When 6-year-old Desre’e Watson threw a tantrum in her kindergarten class a couple of weeks ago she could not have known that the full force of the law would be brought down on her and that she would be carted off by the police as a felon.
But that’s what happened in this small, backward city in central Florida. According to the authorities, there were no other options.
“The student became violent,” said Frank Mercurio, the no-nonsense chief of the Avon Park police. “She was yelling, screaming — just being uncontrollable. Defiant.”
“But she was 6,” I said.
The chief’s reply came faster than a speeding bullet: “Do you think this is the first 6-year-old we’ve arrested?”
The child’s tantrum occurred on the morning of March 28 at the Avon Elementary School. According to the police report, “Watson was upset and crying and wailing and would not leave the classroom to let them study, causing a disruption of the normal class activities.”
After a few minutes, Desre’e was, in fact, taken to another room. She was “isolated,” the chief said. But she would not calm down. She flailed away at the teachers who tried to control her. She pulled one woman’s hair. She was kicking.
I asked the chief if anyone had been hurt. “Yes,” he said. At least one woman reported “some redness.”
After 20 minutes of this “uncontrollable” behavior, the police were called in. At the sight of the two officers, Chief Mercurio said, Desre’e “tried to take flight.”
She went under a table. One of the police officers went after her. Each time the officer tried to grab her to drag her out, Desre’e would pull her legs away, the chief said.
Ultimately the child was no match for Avon Park’s finest.
The cops pulled her from under the table and handcuffed her. The officers were not fooling around. In the eyes of the cops the 6-year-old was a criminal, and in Avon Park she would be treated like any other felon.
There was a problem, though. The handcuffs were not manufactured with kindergarten kids in mind. The chief explained: “You can’t handcuff them on their wrists because their wrists are too small, so you have to handcuff them up by their biceps.”
As I sat listening to Chief Mercurio in a spotless, air-conditioned conference room at the Avon Park police headquarters, I had the feeling that I had somehow stumbled into the middle of a skit on “Saturday Night Live.” The chief seemed like the most reasonable of men, but what was coming out of his mouth was madness.
He handed me a copy of the police report: black female. Six years old. Thin build. Dark complexion.
Desre’e was put in the back of a patrol car and driven to the police station. “Then,” said Chief Mercurio, “she was transported to central booking, which is the county jail.”
The child was fingerprinted and a mug shot was taken
. “Those are the normal procedures for anyone who is arrested,” the chief said.
Desre’e was charged with battery on a school official, which is a felony, and two misdemeanors: disruption of a school function and resisting a law enforcement officer. After a brief stay at the county jail, she was released to the custody of her mother.
The arrest of this child, who should have been placed in the care of competent, comforting professionals rather than being hauled off to jail, is part of an outlandish trend of criminalizing very young children that has spread to many school districts and law enforcement agencies across the country.
A highly disproportionate number of those youngsters, like Desre’e, are black.
]Last spring a number of civil rights organizations collaborated on a study of disciplinary practices in Florida schools and concluded that many of them, “like many districts in other states, have turned away from traditional education-based disciplinary methods — such as counseling, after-school detention, or extra homework assignments — and are looking to the legal system to handle even the most minor transgressions.”

Once you adopt the mindset that ordinary childhood misbehavior is criminal behavior, it’s easy to start seeing young children as somehow monstrous.
“Believe me when I tell you,” said Chief Mercurio, “a 6-year-old can inflict injury to you just as much as any other person.”


Lol. Taking mug shots of kindergarten children... this stuff is just outlandish smilies/cheesy.gif. "Avon Park's Finest" I hope they don't have to encounter any harden convicts and criminals. Just crazy.
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written by e harmony, April 17, 2007
Hey, AES, along the lines of our conversation on the IRS or tax evasion, here is something interesting I found:

[url= http://www.jsonline.com/story/...?id=591533

Excerpt.

By JULIANA BARBASSA
Associated Press
Posted: April 16, 2007

Richmond, Calif. - Carlos Diaz broke the law when he crossed the border and took a job as an office janitor. But he's not about to break another by failing to pay his income tax.

"I've been talking to other people who've done it, and I want to follow the law," said Diaz, an undocumented immigrant from Guatemala who squirmed in his seat at a neighborhood tax preparer's office.
Tuesday is Tax Day, when millions of illegal immigrants find themselves collaborating with one federal agency - the Internal Revenue Service - while trying to avoid another - Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

They hope a track record of on-time payments will aid their citizenship applications, but critics who favor tougher enforcement of federal immigration rules say it's absurd for the government to work with people it should be tracking down and deporting. It legitimizes the presence of immigrants who are here illegally, critics say, and sends a mixed message about the country's interest in enforcing its own rules.

"The word schizophrenic comes to mind," said Marti Dinerstein, president of Immigration Matters, a research firm that advocates tighter immigration enforcement. "There is something fundamentally wrong about this."

The IRS created a nine-digit Individual Tax Identification Number in 1996 for foreigners who don't have Social Security numbers but need to file taxes in the U.S. But it is increasingly used by undocumented workers to file taxes, apply for credit, get bank accounts or even buy a home.

The IRS issued 1.5 million ITINs in 2006 - a 30% increase from the previous year. To obtain one, a person needs to submit to the IRS an application and a document that serves as proof of identity, such as a visa or driver's license. All told, the tax liability of ITIN filers from 1996 to 2003 was $50 billion. The agency has no way to track how many were immigrants, but it's widely believed most people using ITINs are in the United States illegally.

One number hints at the number of illegal immigrants having income taxes deducted from their paychecks.
Numbers don't match

In 2004, the IRS got 7.9 million W-2s with names that didn't match a Social Security number. More than half were from California, Texas, Florida and Illinois, states with large immigrant populations, leading experts to believe they likely represent the wages of illegal immigrants. Even immigrants who use ITINs to file taxes are forced to make up a Social Security number when they get a job.

TO THE POINT
written by u.s. guest, April 18, 2007
Illegal aliens are criminal and should be prosecuted, punished, and deported.......

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