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Questions the Press Should Be Asking Brazil Economy's Skippers PDF Print E-mail
2007 - May 2007
Written by Rolf Kuntz   
Thursday, 24 May 2007 19:27

The real keeps growing face the American dollar The Brazilian press still minds its manners. The government can't handle the cheap dollar and we still don't see a single newspaper getting to the point. On May 15 the dollar reached below 2 reais for the first time since February 2001. The next day it fell again, this time to 1.95 reais, the lowest value in more than six years. This is a "good problem," said President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva.

The "good problem" costs jobs and affects the industries most dependent on domestic labor and inputs. The only reasons why the damage is not even more serious are that the world economy remains strong, prices for basic products remain high and some industries have been able to sell more expensive products, compensating in part for the strengthening of the real. 

The government has reasons to celebrate and some boastfulness is excusable. But a "good problem" is still a problem and some key officials, notwithstanding their state of grace, are not entirely denying it.

Newspapers have been widely covering the industry response to the strengthening of the real. Its impact is particularly tough on some sectors such as textiles, shoes and furniture, but it's hitting almost everyone, one way or another.

With the dollar cheap, the so-called 'Brazil cost' becomes more sensitive: infrastructure deficiencies, heavy and irrational taxes, costly bureaucracy and expensive credit are all hitting the corporate world without the benefit of shock absorbers. Besides, the smuggling of Chinese goods is causing much more damage now. 

The press has been providing readers with a cornucopia of explanations. This is no big mystery, really. The trade surplus, still above US$ 40 billion in twelve months, is the main factor for the dollar accumulation. The country's good export performance has been dependent to a significant extent on international prosperity.

But the growth of the global economy, the longest lasting in the last 60 years, has been followed by huge liquidity. Markets overflow with excess money. Concerns with risk have decreased and rivers of dollars have been flowing to emerging economies, now able to return good profits on the short term.

With interest rates among the highest in the world, Brazil is a preferred destination for all this dough. This reinforces the depreciation of the US dollar vis-à-vis the real.

Some economies such as Chile have been successful at cushioning the exchange rate pressure by squeezing their public accounts, keeping interest rates low and using their fiscal excesses abroad.

Colombian authorities have resorted to controlling capital but then the dollar fell down disastrously to less than 2,000 pesos. The most prudent among economies are getting ready for tougher times, when commodity prices start backing up.

Exchange Rate Threat

In Brazil, the government is still looking for a path to follow. The only good resulting from all the interventions by Banco Central was to put a temporary break in the exchange rate devaluation run and to reinforce reserves accumulation, which is now above US$ 120 billion.

On May 15 the Minister of Finance, Guido Mantega, promised cuts in labor charges for those sectors most affected by the changes. On May 17, the Minister of Development, Industry and Foreign Trade, Miguel Jorge, announced the death of obsolete enterprises as a consequence of the rise in the real.

But the big problem right now is not obsolescence. Representatives of the footwear industry were quick to refute the minister's comments. Some of the most affected industries have invested heavily since the 1990s precisely because they have been exposed to violent competition following the opening of trade with Brazil. The minister decided to issue a correction. According to his new statement, only those who want to die will die. Not exactly a great amendment. 
 
And now what? Has the government finally decided how to handle the "good problem"? The response of the Finance minister was featured in the middle of a half-page interview published on Sunday (May 20) in the daily O Estado de S.  Paulo:

"The unburdening of payroll is part of the arsenal. It will help the companies suffering the most direct impact of the valued real. But we still do not have a conclusive proposal. What we have is not just a single alternative (...) I want to launch the measure when it is ripe."

The confession was clear: the government doesn't know how to handle the problem. On top of that, the Finance minister became confused when answering another question and quoted the Schumpeterian theory of creative destruction. Well, there is no parallel between the development theory of Joseph Schumpeter (1883-1950) and the exchange rate threat facing Brazilian industries right now. 
 
But the confession remained hidden in the middle of the text, obfuscated by the minister's triumphalism. According to him, "the virtuous cycle is implemented" and everything is better than it was during the JK (Juscelino Kubitschek, 1902-1976) administration (1956-1961).

Relative Inefficiency
 
Folha de S. Paulo featured an interview with Mantega on Sunday, May 20. 
 
"We are not going to get involved in any exchange rate adventure. What we have to do is increase the competitiveness of corporations, specially those who suffer the most with rate increases".

So what? 
 
Exchange rate issues are not new, but the Ministry of Finance still sticks to generalities, as if he had never given serious thought to the matter. People who have been thinking about this would perhaps be a little happier if small questions like the following were remembered during interviews:

1. What is the problem of said 'most affected' industries - scarcity of investments?
 
2. Would their equipment be obsolete? (their executives say otherwise)
 
3. Should they import their raw-materials like other industry segments are doing? 
 
4. If so, would the 'inefficient' industries be the domestic suppliers for these raw-materials - for example, cattle breeders and the leather industry?

5. If the government does not want to mess with exchange rates and is not willing to seriously revisit tax rates, what else could it mess with within a reasonable timeline?

6. After all, does or does not the government recognize an emergency situation for these so-called 'most affected' sectors?

7. Does the increase in imports of raw-materials - and even of finished products - really reflect at this time a difference in productivity between domestic companies and foreign, particularly Chinese, companies?

8. Who is 'relatively inefficient' - domestic producers or the country itself - and an admittedly onerous administration?

Rolf Kuntz is a Brazilian journalist. This article appeared originally at Observatório da Imprensa - www.observatoriodaimprensa.com.br.

Translated by Tereza Braga. Braga is a freelance Portuguese translator and interpreter based in Dallas. She is a certified member of the American Translators Association. Contact: terezab@sbcglobal.net.



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written by aes, May 25, 2007
It is self evident that the dependency on the Chinese market globaly whether real or perceived is in for a fall. It has become a pyramid scheme. The Chinese will however continue the need for raw materials, iron ore, soy, and these will remain constant and guarantee the value of the Real on the world market

The government should be investing in long term capital goods that Brazil does not produce and at the current strength in the dollar are a bargain. One thing about the dollar is that it always comes back with a vengence. Never underestemate the dollar for very long. Brazil should be investing in dollar assets, in capital goods, and infra structure. As long as the reserves are dollar based and not Real based it makes strong economic sense. Now is the time to invest in massive projects of infrastructure, airports, seaports, roads, pipelines, electro generators. These investments at bargain prices will produce long term profits, and ultimately guarantee the value of the Real. Though the Real is in fact guaranteed by food, fuel, and iron ore. Brazil has begun an aggressive campaign of global marketing, that will insure a customer base. Perhaps shoes and textiles have reached an economic end game. Unless the industry is willing to invest in the latest of technologies, machineries, robotics, it cannot compete with China or India. Like it or not the times and the products are changing. Look at the avionics industry in Brazil, agronomics, energy, there is enormous opportunity economically to be had in investment in Brazil. The Real will seek its own level. When sales begin to slow as a consequence of its value vis a vis the dollar the exchange rate will change to the price people will pay for the goods. If people will pay $R1.94 that is better than $R2.75. The market will determine the value of the Real, based upon the price the product will sell at.

Buy now, the dollar is cheap, but not for long. The dollar always increases in value. Look back 25 years ago. Interest rates were over 20% gold was $850, five years later gold was $400 and interest rates were 10%. Interst rates are 5% and gold was below $290, before the war.

Be wise, invest in industry and infrastructure. Both produce wealth for everyone.

heading for a crash
written by joseph, May 25, 2007
death of obsolete enterprises as a consequence of the rise in the real....is this like the incoming tourism industry in Brazil which in stead of growing has declined up to 40% in some tourist areas as less visitors are coming because of the high price of a vacation and more Brazilians are travelling abroad crippling local industries. This governent is watching job lost all over the country and is glossing over the crisis...
To:Joseph
written by João da Silva, May 25, 2007
death of obsolete enterprises as a consequence of the rise in the real....is this like the incoming tourism industry in Brazil which in stead of growing has declined up to 40% in some tourist areas as less visitors are coming because of the high price of a vacation and more Brazilians are travelling abroad crippling local industries. This governent is watching job lost all over the country and is glossing over the crisis...


You just transformed my thoughts into words. From my experience, I want to straightway agree with your comments on tourism and the job losses in all sectors of economy. The worst affected are the small labor intensive manufacturers,because of the labor laws and the heavy taxes. I still remember that we used to make nice shoes for a low cost and export to U.S. and other places (The labor was well paid too).The same case with garments and textiles in general.The domestic appliances were well made and lasted for years and didnt cost much. Now the whole situation changed,because of the cheap dollar.

A couple of weeks ago, I was talking to the Director of Finance of a big company that manufactures building materials. He said his company still exports,by cutting down the "costs". I questioned him how they managed to do so,knowing fully well what he would say. He said they fired 265 employees. That is about 10% of their original labor force.Mind you, their factory is quite automated.

So Joseph, when you said 'This government is watching job lost all over the country and is glossing over the crisis... ', you were dead serious.
To:Joseph
written by João da Silva, May 25, 2007
I forgot to add one more sentence: I think that our economy is turning into a "Bubble Economy". Please do correct me if I am wrong.
China seeks iron ore sources in Australia and oil shale investments in Alberta, Canada
written by aes, May 26, 2007
A group of state-owned Chinese companies has agreed to help finance and build an iron ore and infrastructure project worth nearly $2 billion (Australian) in the Pilbara region of western Australia.
The $1.85-billion agreement was sealed at a signing ceremony at the Australian Embassy in Beijing Friday.

Australian company Fortescue Metals Group owns the leases and the iron ore, but three Chinese companies will help get it out of the ground and to China, where supply contracts have already been made.

"Supplies of iron ore to China have been restricted because of lack of infrastructure," Fortescue Chairman Andrew Forrest said.

The deal is seen as a way for China's central government to secure a huge supply of iron ore for its fast expanding steel mills.

The companies will provide the financing, design and construction for the mine and plant, the rail line to Port Hedland, and the port facilities.

The Fortescue company will own the mine, and the transport infrastructure will be open for other companies to exploit. Fortescue claims reserves of more than 1.1 billion tonnes of iron ore

China is also in the process of buying mineral rights in Alberta, particularly oil rich shale.http://209.85.165.104/search?q...cd=2&gl=br
xCHANGE rrape
written by Simpleton, May 26, 2007
Crushed is my dream of putting together a microempresa that would have kept 6-8 families in desparate need into a life long and beneficial situation. With millions more of these the changes needed will arrive, without the spiral into the abyss of dispair accelerates. I take back my statement in a prior thread that what is going on in the exchange rate is / was / has an ominous pre-planned backtrack backroom plan behind it. There is no plan. There is no leadership or guidance. There is no hope for the masses in the making. The have's will not come lest they have enough to continue the rrape ing of Brasil.
China's central government to secure a huge supply of iron ore for its fast expanding steel mills !!!!
written by ch.c., May 26, 2007
Dead right !
Stupid question, will then Brazil continue indefinitely to export iron ore or pellets (or whatever BASIC commodities), instead of manufacturing value added products ???
A not so bright future....in my view !

Lets face it, you cannot beat Asian countries for low value added products, and both Asia and South America cannot beat the developed nations technology with high added value, thus high margins !

Even a Chinese Minister said a while ago :
To buy one Boeing or Airbus.....Chinese must produce 800 millions pair of socks...with very low margin !!!!

I could even add that Brazil must produce 2 kgs of Soyabeans...to buy a 20 grams pair of socks !


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written by aes, May 26, 2007
Make hay while the sun shines, or soy, or iron for however long, but long range planning is requisite. Brazil is 500 years old China is 5000.

There are too many people in China their is neither enough food or raw material.

There are some say the world will be yellow.

A country cannot live dependent for its existence across oceans and continents. In theory it can, but its like a relationship where one party lives in New York and the other in L.A. Odds are the relationship will fail.

I think continents are about the limit of survivable entities.

The ancient Hebrew world for war is milchama. . .its root is lechem. . .lechem is bread. Brazil is a garden, perfect weather, water and soil. Anything will grow here, it is a nascent Eden.
I would rather have a garden then any amount of socks. You cant eat socks.

You cant eat socks.
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written by aes, May 26, 2007
The British who did business with Asia for hundreds of years referred to them as WOGs, 'wyley orientle gentlemen'

It is a term, I suppose ultimately of respect.

A civilization such as China does not survive for 5000 years without hedging its bets. Never become dependent upon a single supplier, you cannot bargain if you are.

One should never forget that the interest of China is China, it is not Brazil. Take their money while you can and invest it wisely.
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written by bo, May 26, 2007
One should never forget that the interest of China is China, it is not Brazil. Take their money while you can and invest it wisely.



You can say that again. What amazes me is when people from other countries can't seem to understand that principle when it comes to the United States. Many think they should be a big f**king Red Cross.
Today's Globo For Abe Razillion - Brazil, the Land of Opportunity?
written by bo, May 26, 2007
http://revistaepoca.globo.com/...56,00.html

Pororoca social

Estudo da Unicamp revela que a mobilidade social no Brasil é para poucos


Um levantamento feito pelo professor Waldir José de Quadros, do Instituto de Economia (IE) da Unicamp, revela que está difícil mudar de classe social no Brasil. “É o que os números mostram”, diz Quadros. Para chegar ao resultado, o pesquisador comparou os dados da Pesquisa Nacional por Amostra de Domicílios (PNAD) desde 1980. Em entrevista, ele explica como reverter essa situação.

ÉPOCA - Está mais fácil subir de classe social?
Waldir José de Quadros - Não e a tendência é piorar. Desde 1981, a classe média vem sofrendo um encolhimento enquanto a população de pobres e miseráveis não pára de aumentar. Isso acontece porque o crescimento econômico não é permanente. Estima-se que o PIB chegará a 5% nesse ano, mas é um índice baixo. A China e a Coréia crescem a um ritmo de 12% ao ano. Aqui se fala em crescer metade disso, mas ninguém ouve falar de aumento da produção ou de geração de emprego. Para isso, a taxa de crescimento deveria ser de pelo menos 8% durante dez anos. É disso que depende a mobilidade social.

ÉPOCA - Além da dificuldade de ascensão social, existem outras conseqüências?
Quadros - Muitas das patologias sociais de hoje, como a criminalidade e a precarização do trabalho, podem ser explicadas pelo engessamento das estruturas de classe. Hoje para um jovem se manter no caminho do bem está cada vez mais difícil. Que estímulo ele tem? As famílias então rebaixam seus valores éticos, o que é uma enfermidade social muito grave.

ÉPOCA - Existe uma dificuldade maior em determinadas regiões que em outras?
Quadros - A situação é mais grave nas metrópoles, especialmente do centro-sul, onde há desemprego elevado e concorrência mais acirrada. Com a crise da indústria pesada, São Paulo tornou-se o pior lugar.

ÉPOCA - E os ricos, ficaram mais pobres?
Quadros - Nada disso. Nas pesquisas ao IBGE, que anualmente divulga a PNAD, os ricos não falam a verdade. Um entrevistador dificilmente tem acesso à casa de um milionário e a PNAD não é como o censo, em que o indivíduo é obrigado a receber o pesquisador. E mesmo que ele o receba, não vai declarar, por questões de segurança, entre outros, seu patrimônio. Nós costumamos brincar que o cadastro da Daslu é o melhor banco de dados dos ricos.

ÉPOCA - Quais características garantem a mobilidade social?
Quadros - Pensando na classe média, a qualificação e a retaguarda social. Mas isso leva a um profundo elitismo. E não é caminho do sucesso, porque há um monte de gente qualificada e desempregada. A questão é que um desqualificado não tem chance alguma. Meus alunos, se não conseguem um bom emprego, vão fazer mais um curso, um pós-doutorado, um MBA, vão viajar. Suas chances vão aumentando, e nesse sentido é elitista. Agora, esperar sem fazer nada também não adianta.

ÉPOCA - Registro em carteira ajuda na mobilidade?
Quadros - Nem sempre. Mas quem tem carteira assinada geralmente está melhor.

ÉPOCA - Ser empreendedor interfere?
Quadros - Depende. As chances de um empreendedor dar certo são as mesmas de se conseguir um bom emprego.

ÉPOCA - E não há nenhum outro fator que possa influenciar nessa mobilidade social?
Quadros - Negros e mulatos perdem na competição social. Há regiões mais dinâmicas que a metrópole, como Ribeirão Preto, onde a mobilidade é melhor.

ÉPOCA - Quem poderia ser exemplo para o Brasil?
Quadros - China e Coréia, que em 1980 estavam abaixo do Brasil e hoje estão na frente. Ainda que a China seja um país de miseráveis, com uma ditadura, ela está crescendo há muito tempo. É muito discutível dizer que o trabalhador chinês é pior que o brasileiro. Estamos marcando passo.

ÉPOCA - Programas sociais não contribuem para a mobilidade?
Quadros - Um grande programa de construção civil tiraria muito mais gente da miséria que qualquer programa social.

ÉPOCA - O que é a “pororoca social” de que o senhor fala?
Quadros - É a movimentação de gente que quer subir de classe com gente que está caindo e outros que simplesmente só lutam para ficar onde estão. Quando se fala que a proporção das classes está declinando, é um fenômeno muito lento. Se de um ano para outro 5% da classe média passar para 4%, tem-se a impressão de que caiu apenas 1%. Mas têm gente entrando e gente saindo. Mesmo que fique o mesmo tamanho, você tem um fluxo. E a competição é terrível. Porque o jovem recém-formado, com pós-doutorado e especialização no exterior, topa trabalhar por R$ 3 mil e tira o emprego de um senhor experiente que ganha R$ 12 mil. E esse senhor que sai não arruma mais nenhum emprego. A pororoca é isso e não há indicador para isso.

Intrastating
written by Simpleton, May 26, 2007
Bo, THX for the article repro. Public works projects / programs have served us well in the past but remember, those are only a get me by endeavor until later when the use of same for the advantage of other activities makes things flourish. Also requires people who are willing to leave where they're at and work hard. Best to have a plan and controls in place lest you catch the death of the railroads syndrome.
To:AES
written by João da Silva, May 26, 2007
One should never forget that the interest of China is China, it is not Brazil. Take their money while you can and invest it wisely


The question is that, while we like to take everybody's money, are we capable of investing wisely ? smilies/grin.gif
Bo
written by João da Silva, May 26, 2007
Thanks for the post.

Porque o jovem recém-formado, com pós-doutorado e especialização no exterior, topa trabalhar por R$ 3 mil e tira o emprego de um senhor experiente que ganha R$ 12 mil. E esse senhor que sai não arruma mais nenhum emprego. A pororoca é isso e não há indicador para isso.


It is a sad reality.
To:AES
written by João da Silva, May 26, 2007
The British who did business with Asia for hundreds of years referred to them as WOGs, 'wyley orientle gentlemen'


Later on the Brits started giving a new interpretation to WOGs. It was Westernized Oriental Gentlemen!.
Brazil and its lack of long term planing.
written by aes, May 26, 2007
When Hong Kong was turned over to China the monied residents bought Vancouver. It became euphamistically 'Hongcouver'.

What is of interest is that Vancouver is a hugh port. The Chinese have begun to buy Alberta and the oil shale and other minerals that are present. It is an opeing gambit.

Unlike Brazil Canada has an infrastructure of ports, roads, and railways.

"There should be an obvious and logical bridge between resource-rich Canada and the resource market in China," said Feng Xu, vice-president of China Minmetals Nonferous Metals Inc., who also would not answer media questions.
http://www.energybulletin.net/3535.html
Focus!
written by Bert, May 26, 2007
Only a few years ago when China and Australia were negotitating a new iron ore contract at per tonne rates, the bargaining chip was the fact that australia was ab le to deliver at $10 per tonne againt close to $50 per tonne from brasil. Spend your extra billions on roads rail,ports and education to produce enough lawyers to stop your politicians pocketing the rest!
Brazil and its lack of long term planing.
written by João da Silva, May 26, 2007
Spend your extra billions on roads rail,ports and education to produce enough lawyers to stop your politicians pocketing the rest!


We have some lawyers who are elected politicians and they know how to legally pocket the "Rest"!

AES/Brazil and its lack of long term planing
written by João da Silva, May 27, 2007
AES, I am aware of the necessity of Long Range Planning for the nation of Brazil as well as for our large corporations and I have stressed about it over years. For one reason or other, our Government and Industrial leaders dont want to hear about it and we still execute our projects on "feijão com arroz" basis, without realizing that we have to deal with globolized economy. To integrate with the developed countries, we need to have solid infrastructure that will project the future (in all aspects, including Geopolitics) and build one that will last. Unfortunately we dont seem to comprehend this notion.

A few years ago, I was unwittingly got myself involved (No consulting fee charged) in a group discussion with some politicians and engineers, regarding "Building Highways" in which I was telling them it was necessary to study the FUTURE flow of traffic. While a couple of politicians agreed with me, the rest thought I was silly. Anyway they built the highway as they wanted the fleet of cars and trucks increased double fold,even before the work was completed!! Now it is already disingerating due to the heavy traffic and as usual, they are "tapando buracos".

What amazes me is that when one talks about building infrastructre, all the political parties fight with each other to nominate their own candidates in the respective ministries.We have so many ministries (for building cities, fishing,etcsmilies/wink.gif that I have stopped counting them.

I ernestly hope that the billions of dollars we are making out of our China Trade will be used to build the infrastructure and nobody will be happier than I am. However, I have seen too much talk and no action from our elected leaders.I sincerely hope that we dont miss the boat again.

To:AES
written by João da Silva, May 27, 2007
The ancient Hebrew world for war is milchama. . .its root is lechem. . .lechem is bread.


Hi AES, I like lechem (Flat bread?) stuffed with "Grão de bico". I believe it is called Phala-Phal. A delicious meal.
Bert's aye
written by Simpleton, May 27, 2007
Bullseye!!! Still the problem of finding non-orientals / non-foreign slaves to get the job done or a means to not tear anymore families apart solely out of the necessesity chosen by the many good fathers to chase the lowly buck to send back home.
Do you know that people make $100.000 a year selling falafels from little carts in L.A. and N.Y. Open a fallafel stand in Ipanema, its called walking food.
written by aes, May 27, 2007
Did you know matzos in Israel is round (not square), looks like the eucharist, and the reason it is flat and does not have a pocket in it like pita bread, the pita is what the falafel is made of, is because they did not have time, acording to the story of passover, to use yeast, it is the yeast that creates the pocket.
So the point is?
written by Simpleton, May 27, 2007
Tell me, isn't pita bread a greek thing? Also, I'm not sure but aren't pasties (not the kind required for covering the nipples in the tittie bars in some locales), since they also had a hole in the middle filled with something but were otherwise sealed and were common for miners from many origins to take into the mines for their sustenance, somehow related to pita too? There's a case here for yeast infections having starting somehow somewhere - any ancient greeks out there to lay claim to such fame? Prof?
Simpleton: The etymology of the aramaic word for war and the story of unleavened bread and the eucharest and the Book of Exodus
written by aes, May 27, 2007
The eurcharest is two thousand years old and the old testiment five thousand. This is pre greek and it has to do with the book of Exodus and the irony of Matzos actually being logically round and not square as it is unleavened bread.

The reference is to ancient religious and anthropological history, of bread.

It had to do with the ancient word for war and its etymological root.

If you had traveled to the middle east you would have discovered on everystreet corner a falafel cart selling falafel, humus, techina and a salad.

In the U.S. people are making millions of dollars selling these things that sell for a dollar in Jerusalem.

There are no falafel stands in Leblon. There is a principal of economic success, I think it was presented in a lecture by Warren Buffet. It is the concept of transference. That if a product is successful in one geographical location it will be equally successful in anyother geographical location.



GTY
written by aes, May 28, 2007
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/d8ccdc...10621.html

By some measures Brazil is already an investment grade economy. Standard & Poor's yesterday raised its local currency sovereign rating by two notches to investment grade, although the foreign currency rating matters more to analysts and investors.

Fitch's "country ceiling" - the general upper limit on ratings for non-government issuers - is also at investment grade.

Several private issuers, mostly big industrial groups and banks, already have investment grade ratings, some even higher than Fitch's country ceiling. There is little mystery about what has driven the recent upgrades.

Brazil's macroeconomic "fundamentals" - its trade balance and balance of payments, inflation, the profile of public debt - have all improved steadily in recent years. This year alone Brazil has accumulated more than $35bn in foreign reserves bringing the total to more than $120b
AES
written by GTY, May 29, 2007
I agree, I see Brazil as less of a risk than Asia or Africa now, in fact, as much as I hate to admit it, Brazil has been a relativly safe investment during Lula's watch. He has benefited from the privatization during the Cardosa years and been smart enough not to do a Chavez with what he has been given. Also, the situation in Venezuela gives Brazil a unique position for a stronger business, trade and security arrnagement with the US, which Lula seems to be embracing, it is certainly in Bush's best interest. Brazil has positioned itself to benefit from both a strong a week dollar...comendable. The problem, is not all, in fact very few Brazilian people benefit. I have clients in Brazil who fly back and forth in choppers to beat Sao Paulo traffic, yet have no shame in expoliting their employees.

The private sector continue to drive the Brazilian economy, the troubling part of this, is that they bribe politicans, police and local officals to create a business enviroment that only benefits themselves and their families. Just last week, there was a charge that Brazil's largest construction company (a company doing work at MIA's new terminal) was bribing the Brazilian Senate Leader, by providing his 3 year old daughter with US$6,000 a month.

All in all, if you can hold your nose and understand what makes Brazilian business tick, slave labor, a heavily taxed middle class and a shamless elite, there is money to be made for a foreign investor. But I prefer to keep my personal investments here, with some property for retirement purposes in Brazil, although the real estate market near the beaches seems to be rally heating up as well.
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written by João da Silva, May 29, 2007
But I prefer to keep my personal investments here, with some property for retirement purposes in Brazil, although the real estate market near the beaches seems to be rally heating up as well.


A wise decision.
To:GTY
written by João da Silva, May 29, 2007
The private sector continue to drive the Brazilian economy, the troubling part of this, is that they bribe politicans, police and local officals to create a business enviroment that only benefits themselves and their families


A good observation. However, the small businesses who play straight get wiped out. They are penalized both by the government and their employees!

All in all, if you can hold your nose and understand what makes Brazilian business tick, slave labor, a heavily taxed middle class and a shamless elite, there is money to be made for a foreign investor


In my opinion, the middle class and the small and the medium sized companies are in the same situation. They are the species getting extinct.

I have clients in Brazil who fly back and forth in choppers to beat Sao Paulo traffic, yet have no shame in expoliting their employees.


I know people who live far away from S.Paulo who take the flight on Monday mornings to that city and come back to their homes on Friday evenings,so that their families are not vulnerable to the violence in that city!. It does amuse me when I hear them giving an illogical explanation for the stupidity they themselves helped to create.

On a lighter note, how was your trip to CA?
Joao
written by GTY, May 29, 2007
The Napa Valley is truley God's country, especially the North Valley, we spend two days and needed a week, oh well, just have to go back. Funny thing, several of the Winery's had very hot Brazilian women working the wine tasting counters, that's new, last time we were there 5 years ago, I don't remember this being the case.
To:GTY
written by João da Silva, May 29, 2007
[quoteFunny thing, several of the Winery's had very hot Brazilian women working the wine tasting counters]

You becoming lecherous lately or you were always like that? smilies/grin.gif
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written by GTY, May 29, 2007
I am 1/2 Latino
To:GTY
written by João da Silva, May 29, 2007
I am 1/2 Latino


Ah, I forgot. Hopefully you were accompanied by your wife and Mom-in-Law and you had the opportunitiy to discreetly drool at the Brazilian beauties with the excuse of practising your Portuguese?
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written by Brazillian, May 29, 2007
I think the global economy is in for a market correction, Growth doesn't last forever and china will slow down and when the global economy slows down all the hot money in Brazil, and emerging economies will come flying out. I believe it will happen with 2- 3 years time. Also i see a global stock market correction like what had happen earlier this year in February I think a sharp pull back will be happening soon around the next month or two. I would slowly be taking profits now. Also I see the Brazilian currency strengthening further until the global economy slows in the coming future. I think the Brazilian currency strength is good but a correction is coming along the way because hot money can leave as quickly as it came. And then it will be a run on the currency and Brazil will have to use its reserve to defend the currency or let it fall.
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written by João da Silva, May 29, 2007
I think the Brazilian currency strength is good but a correction is coming along the way because hot money can leave as quickly as it came


Do you think that this correction is a) A slight devaluation of the currency? b) Is this going to happen in the next few months?

What bothers me is that though our curency has strengthened in front of the dollar, still the prices of basic food items have gone up quite a bit during the past 3 months. To neutralize this effect, the government should be importing,but it is not happenning.

Would appreciate your further comments.

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written by aes, May 30, 2007
I think the global market is in a state of correction, look at oil, look at ethanol, look at China, India, and there is still Africa. The world is in flux, it is seeking equilibrium, if it doesn1t reach critical mass. There are changes in geopolitcal power. England, France, Portugal, were once great powers, they are ruined gardens, estates gone into ruin. There are new forces in the wind. More human, not quite human, but more human.
To:AES
written by João da Silva, May 30, 2007
England, France, Portugal, were once great powers, they are ruined gardens, estates gone into ruin.


I am all ears,AES.What exactly do you want to say?
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written by Professor, May 30, 2007
http://br.invertia.com/noticia...996&idtel=
Bovespa espera dobrar volume diário negociado este ano
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written by G, May 30, 2007
Brazil is in a unique position in the world...it can be its own nation. Almost all other nations (outside of South America) need to ally themselves with someone...US, Russia, China, EU. While these powers are competing to outdo and decimate each other, and countries in between must choose wisely who to ally with or risk being destroyed, Brazil can relax and work on its problems in its own time. Yes Brazil has poverty and problems, but slow and steady is not bad. What's to envy about a boom followed with a bust? Or war?
Joao: I would say these things.
written by aes, May 30, 2007
To:AES
written by João da Silva, May 30, 2007
I would say these things


Thanks. I went trhough the site and enjoyed reading the positive and optimistic D- Day message of FDR.
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written by aes, May 31, 2007
The market was tested with China's market falling precipitously. Brazil after a few harrowing moments dropped like a rock loosing 1000 points only to come back rising to a new record of 52,540 at the end of trading.

It's economy is geopolitically diversified enough that it is no longer dependent on any single country.

It is the largest packer of meat in the WORLD now.

One of the largest producers of soy.

Largest producer of sugar.

Why doesn't Brazil deal in aquiculture, fish farms, shrimp farms? They have the land, water and temperature to outpace any existing fisheries.

So China took a serious hit and Brazil's economy is apparently as solid as gold.
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written by GTY, June 01, 2007
"Why doesn't Brazil deal in aquiculture, fish farms, shrimp farms? They have the land, water and temperature to outpace any existing fisheries."

US imposed tarrifs for imported shrimp. Brazil was dumping tons of cheap shrimp on the market a few years back. Brazil has a case at the WTO against the US. I would rather lift the tarrifs and let them sell us shrimp, than watch the shrimppers in the US destroy recreational fishing in the US.
The press
written by ljsadf, June 07, 2007
Great article, it is good to see reporting on this issue finally. The Socialist forces are the same as the Fuedal forces and are the same in the US. The leaders ally themselves with the poor against the middle with the result that all are poor or rich and all of society serves the rich. I can't blame Lula for wanting to be rich. He has joined George Orwells group of animals and is now walking on his hind legs.

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