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In Brazil's Air Space Obscene Are the Airlines and the Government PDF Print E-mail
2007 - July 2007
Written by Carlos Chagas   
Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:29

Families of dead passengers protest at TAM's ticket counter There is not a more childish argument than the one just repeated by the almost former Infraero's president, brigadier José Carlos Pereira. Trying to justify why the Brazilian government is doing everything to avoid closing the Congonhas Airport, in São Paulo, the military man asked where would the 20 million passengers/year who use those facilities board a plane?

The option is clear: the government would rather see them boarding flying coffins because it will be only a matter of time before we get a rerun of the TAM Airbus disaster, in case Congonhas is not immediately closed. All we need is to look at the images transmitted by the media. Congonhas's two short runways end up in avenues filled with traffic and blocks clogged with buildings and houses.

As it has already occurred in the past, other aircraft filled to capacity with passengers will endure the same technical or human failures, the tarmacs' precariousness, rain, fog and other causes that exist to guarantee the unexpected.

The government remains intent on caving into the demands of air companies which are only interested in profit and, because of this, air operations will be kept in one of the most absurd locations to build an airport. This will guarantee new batches of people condemned to the most horrible of deaths, worse than the Inquisition fires, because they are now multiplied by 200 or more victims, at a time.

Where to hold 20 million air customers? First of all, hold them in a safe place, be it either in other airports, buses, cars or the rare train or still in the tranquillity of each one's home.

Responsible

Obviously the Brazilian public authority comes through as one of the main culprits of  the air transportation chaos for not showing any interest in investing in the sector. In this case of the Airbus, however, most of the blame goes to TAM and the other air transportation companies.

Or weren't they the ones that coerced Infraero, Brazil's National Agency of Civil Aviation, into authorizing the use of a runway which is still unfinished and under repair? Weren't they the same companies that pressured so that Congonhas were reopened less than 12 hours after the recent tragedy?

Aren't these the companies who are always selling more tickets than the number of available seats,  who refuse to give information on normal flights and schedules and who treat customers as cattle? Finally,  aren't they the companies responsible for using an admittedly defective Airbus, with a broken reverse thruster?

And the worst of all in this story is that there is no news that any inquiry will be started, or a lawsuit will be filed to investigate and punish the directors of these companies, some of whom have not spared efforts to grant interviews in which they present themselves as archangels, at a time when their aircraft wings keep on breaking apart over the São Paulo skies.

And what does the public authority have to say to all of this? It only celebrates the fact that the most recent disaster was caused more due to equipment failure than unfinished tarmacs...

Never

In all of Brazilian history, this will be the first time in which public opinion and published opinion condemn the public authority with such vehemence. Newspapers have been publishing pages with readers protests and there have been plenty of editorials and columnists' diatribes. TV stations have been showing the most horrific images of this more than announced new tragedy, at the same time that radio stations open their microphones to thousands of indignant citizens.

This chain reaction occurs while polling institutes, as long as possible, keep on boasting the government's popularity and that of the president. Something here doesn't add up.  The country has been split into two sides.  On one side, the masses who never entered an airport, show their satisfaction with the Family Grant (Bolsa Família) alms.

On the other site, there is a middle class eager to see the government exercising an authority that it doesn't have. Or are all those polls on the public authority's performance just a big deception? It doesn't matter. The truth of the matter is that we've never seen a show like this.

Message to Garcia

It was a big blow for the government the broadcasting of the images showing the president's special adviser, Marco Aurélio Garcia, in an obscene gesture that means "screw you," in the false demonstration that the Lula administration was spared national condemnation due to the admitted mechanical failure in the TAM's Airbus. 

The lack of respect is only smaller than the foolishness to think that Lula's popularity keeps going up while airplanes keep falling. In a serious country, this character would have already been defenestrated, if he wouldn't submit his resignation.

To whom was the obscene gesture addressed?

To the media, which doesn't spare the government for its responsibility in the disaster? To the airlines, equally guilty, now running the risk of being abandoned. To the passengers sacrificed in the Congonhas Airport extremity? Or it might be to the airplane commander who tried, till the end, to prevent the worst from happening.

That's the way the PT (Workers Party) works. Tourism Minister, Marta Suplicy, recommends to the passengers that they "relax and come" (in the sexual sense of it).

To Finance Minister, Guido Mantega, the air transportation chaos is a good sign: it shows Brazil's economic prosperity.

Nobody is sacked. Neither former chief of staff José Dirceu or Delúbio Soares or José Genoíno and others were fired by president Lula.

All of them left on their own accord believing that it was impossible to keep their post after the public furor. Something that might happen to Marco Aurélio Garcia...

Carlos Chagas is a veteran Brazilian journalist who writes for the Rio's daily Tribuna da Imprensa. He welcomes your comments at carloschagas@hotmail.com.

Translated from the Portuguese by Arlindo Silva.



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just walked off
written by FORREST ALLEN BROWN, July 23, 2007
no they stoped by the pay window and got there chque
and left the foward addres to send the
next job posting they will get

i would not let them be in charge orgnazing the monkey s**t fights at the zoo

while in the US bush had too get his pain it the ass removed by doctors ,
lulas just crawl off
Mass Murder in Congonhas
written by Dom Oliveiro, July 23, 2007
That the reverse thrusters on the TAM Airbus did not fully function is a major issue indeed. The big issue however is, that the airport runway was re-opened after an incomplete refurbishment. Not grooving the runway before re-opening and thus rendering it extremely slippery when wet - and it rains often and heavily in São Paulo - is the by far major underlying cause of the accident and has caused major issues on the days befor the tragic event.

The grooving would have kept that runway closed for another approximately two days. The officials ultimately allowing its use in this condition are in my eyes responsible for nothing else but mass murderers.
There's enough blame...
written by bo, July 23, 2007
to go around. Undoubtedly there was a combination of factors in which both Infraero and Tam are responsible for this most recent accident. Let's not also forget what we have learned from the Gol/Legacy accident, and that is that besides dangerous runways and airlines allowing planes that should be grounded to operate, Brazil also has an antiquated air traffic control system in which it consistantly shows incorrect information, blind spots, false alarms, etc. And also an understaffed and in many cases underexperienced group of air traffic controllers in which less than 10% speak english which is the international standard of communication!

Let's not use the airlines though as a scapegoat for Infraero. Governing bodies and orgnaizations, especially in regards to public safety, can't be excused if they make a decision based on anything except what is the best thing to do in regards to safety.
There's enough blame...
written by bo, July 23, 2007
to go around. Undoubtedly there was a combination of factors in which both Infraero and Tam are responsible for this most recent accident. Let's not also forget what we have learned from the Gol/Legacy accident, and that is that besides dangerous runways and airlines allowing planes that should be grounded to operate, Brazil also has an antiquated air traffic control system in which it consistantly shows incorrect information, blind spots, false alarms, etc. And also an understaffed and in many cases underexperienced group of air traffic controllers in which less than 10% speak english which is the international standard of communication!

Let's not use the airlines though as a scapegoat for Infraero. Governing bodies and orgnaizations, especially in regards to public safety, can't be excused if they make a decision based on anything except what is the best thing to do in regards to safety.
...
written by Ric, July 23, 2007
There is no easy, quick, or cheap solution. A location for a new field will be the subject of debate. So no one can expect an immediate solution. Steps will be taken to take care of the easily reparable issues at Congonhas. And the government can count on two things. First, today´s top story is soon forgotten. Second, the majority of Brazilians have never flown, and a lot of those people are alfflicted with Class Envy. And the vote of the illiterate counts the same as the vote of the college professor.

This problem is subject to market pressure. Movers and shakers in metro SP want the convenience of location, but the security of twelve thousand foot runways with first world buffer zones. You can´t have it both ways. Airlines schedule in response to demand. Stop booking Congonhas or stop complaining. They use it as an enroute hub because more people get off and on there than they would if routing through Garulhos.
To:Carlos Chagas
written by João da Silva, July 23, 2007
To whom was the obscene gesture addressed?


The obscene gestures of those two gentlemen were addressed to all the Brazilians, Sr.Carlos, and lets not deny that fact.

On the other hand, the government did show its fine gesture towards the victims of the tragedy by decorating the two directors of ANAC with Gold Medals, even before the mourning period of 3 days was over.I am sure the entire country is very pleased to see these two heros being paid homage for keeping our sky and the airports safe.
In Agreement
written by Doggy Daddy, July 23, 2007
I would have to say that this is the first time I have seen all your postings as clear, concise and intelligent thoughts/ comments..
I don't know where the usual dim wits and half lifes are today and hope they don't appear any time soon. Cheers to all. Keep it stiff!
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written by Lucas R., July 23, 2007
As President Lula has said today, one should not take conclusions in advance and point the finger to anyone.
I just want to ask to all these experts that have already come into a conclusion and pointed their fingers to the government and to the just re-opened Congonhas airway:
In the day of the accident many other airplanes exactly like the one that crashed, landed in Congonhas under severe rain. Therefore, why in the hell that terrible accident hasn't happebed earlier that day ????
The government was yet the same and the air track either.
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written by Lucas R., July 23, 2007
I agree that Congonhas is a problem, but ask someone to catch a flight either in Cumbica or Viracopos... Their convinience speaks louder and they will require Congonhas.
In a consequence of our "modern way of life", air transportation companies will promptly offer more and more seats at that airport and fight air regulation companies like Infraero in order to get what they want. Big money is involved there.
I mostly agree with Carlos Chagas when he blames the greedy air transportation companies for their insistence in keeping in Congonhas most of their operation, like TAM.
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written by Ric, July 24, 2007
Airplanes operate in a sea of air that has little to do with the ground. Runway Visual Range, ceiling, temperature, dewpoint and wind at the surface can be in constant change in bad weather conditions. Therefore it is not unusual for two or three planes to land successfully, two or three to have to go around or enter a holding pattern, and then be able to land, with conditions different from the first three. The idea that if so and so made it in, so can I, has killed many a pilot.

The "air track" or true course is never exactly the same in foul weather conditions.
Lucas R
written by O Velhino, July 24, 2007
As President Lula has said today, one should not take conclusions in advance and point the finger to anyone


Stop defending President Lula,please.He is always on top of the Wall like his beloved friends like Pires,Marta,Guido,paulo bernardo,etc;. Remember that after the GOL accident occured in Sep 29th of 2006, Pires jumped in and immediately blamed those 2 Legacy pilots ( I dont know if Pires knows how to drive a donkey cart,let alone a car,truck or a plane).

Lets face it Lucas. The runways at Congonhas are too short and can not take big jets with 63 Tonnes of load at almost 7 P.M. (already dark during the Winter in Sampa), during the torrential rain storms like it happened on the day of the disaster.That jet was trying to land on an incomplete runway without grooving.

You can scream and yell it me,my friend, Over 200 souls lost their lives,because of the indifference of our government and all you have to say is to repeat what Lula said .Not to come to premature concusions! I have not read any comment of yours in this blog, protesting against the awarding of Gold medals to those two jerks in ANAC,even before the three day mourning period was over.

Lucas, you are completely out of your mind.
Para O Velhino
written by Doggy Daddy, July 24, 2007
Lucas R is another dimit to join the Club of idiots posting here. the less attention they are given the better.I stopped using Congonhas 3 years ago because it was always a nightmare to travel through there, the infrastructure, the lousy service, the list goes on... and then they fix the place up to look Chic but underneath it is hell hole of an airport. I did a project for VASP a few years ago on their ground handling, check in and in flight service quality levels and my report was trashed because I did not speak highly of Gongonhas but neither did the VASP pilots.. I rest my case.
Lucas R
written by No Name, July 24, 2007
"On the day of the accident many other airplanes exactly like the one that crashed, landed in Congonhas under severe rain. Therefore, why in the hell that terrible accident hasn't happebed earlier that day"

So if we are doing comparisons, then why did the 2 planes the day before skid of the runway? Could we call them near misses? and why did the one the next day after the crash? Another near miss? Not to mention the one today. Can you explain those away too? How many more near misses (or worse) have to happen before you are satisfied there is a real problem?
I have a bad feeling
written by No Name, July 24, 2007
this situation super combustible. Sometimes you can only push people so far before they snap.... I hope I am wrong but you just can't keep treating people like their lives don't matter... I know I'll get the oh your paranoid comments...

Doggy Daddy said
I would have to say that this is the first time I have seen all your postings as clear, concise and intelligent thoughts/ comments.. . I noticed too. When the anger is gone, then what? This was a sobering article.
Is the Airport or the Navigation Infrastructure?
written by American in Rio, July 24, 2007
Reading all the comments about Congonhas it seems that everyone is focused on the length of the runway and/or the grooving. Given the fact that the grooving will be done, that leaves us with the length of the runway for future operations.
The runway is about 6600 feet. That's about the same as Burbank, California - Los Angeles' second busiest airport and also New York's La Guardia Airport. And, it's about 2000 feet longer than Santos Dumont Airport in Rio.
My question is if these problems at Congonhas dont' go back to poor Air Traffic Control and inadequate Navigation Aids? Both of which seem to be endemic throughout Brazil.
Ya know what I can't figure?
written by bo, July 24, 2007
With all the delays and cancellations today I was just reading on O'Globo that an older lady at the airport in Rio got so upset that she passed out and had to be given mouth-to-mouth to recover and regain consciousness. Her daughter that was with her then throws a box towards the check in counter for Gol. I've witnessed this agressive behavior first hand in the airports here in brazil seeing brazilians uncharacteristically screaming and yelling at workers at airline check in counters....brazilians get very agressive when it comes to travel delays.....why is that?

I mean, at the end of last year the banks in the entire country once again....went on strike!! All the banks were closed, and in Salvador for six weeks!!! Do you believe that I actually had to unexpectedly travel to the U.S. with cash in hand because I was unable to send a bankwire that had to be there within a certain time period!! Yet brazilians took this in stride. When I would get frustrated or upset and talk to brazilians about it they would respond as if, "ohh yeah, no big deal, it happens". Yet make a brazilian late for a flight and many go beserk, they can't handle it. I've never minded layovers, I just go to the bar. And if it's a big layover the airline puts me up in a hotel and once again, I go to the bar. Call my business associates and explain the situation, nothing can be done, so wtf, have a beer!
Para bo
written by Doggy Daddy, July 24, 2007
Yes Bo, good question! Why do Brazilians go hay wire when there is a flight delay? As you say the banks go on strike and they don't give a damm, I have been delayed getting wire transfers for days because of these strikes. It is the same on the roads and hiways. They get homicidal if they feel that they lost there god given place in the mazie of traffic. Maybe some others can add to this question why their civil behavior is terrible in airports and also on board airplanes. As you say if you are well travelled and there is a delay or cancellation, then take it in stride.... wtf, have a beer is right! Cheers
Doggy Daddy
written by O Velhino, July 24, 2007
I did a project for VASP a few years ago on their ground handling, check in and in flight service quality levels and my report was trashed because I did not speak highly of Gongonhas but neither did the VASP pilots.. I rest my case.


Probably, you did not include a politico in your project ! I have noticed during the past 10 years that good projects are evaluated on political basis and not on business nor technical grounds.I hope you got paid for your work before VASP went bankrupt. May be it would not gone Kaput if someone had listened to what you and the pilots had to say!

One thing that made me madder about the politcos wrt to the TAM accident is that 2 congressmen accompanied the Black Box and the piece of engine (!) to U.S. to be analysed at the labs of NTSB are sitting in a hotel in Washington D.C and getting information from the Air Force officers who are doing the work along with the technicians at the Lab. I heard that these two were not allowed into the lab. However, they are issuing press releases making contradictory statements. The Air Force denied them and posted a stiff note in their site. If you are interested you may go through:

http://www.fab.mil.br/htm/index.htm

TO:American in Rio
written by O Velhino, July 24, 2007
The runway is about 6600 feet. That's about the same as Burbank, California - Los Angeles' second busiest airport and also New York's La Guardia Airport.


Do the La Guardia and Burbank have 47 storied hotels built,just 600 feet from the start (or end) of the Runways?. Congonhas has one and the Mayor of S.Paulo is offering to demolish it!. btw, it was built in year 2000, when the trafffic at Congonhas was already getting heavy and the need to expand the Runway was obvious.
You get what you vote for. A fool and his money are soon parted.
written by aes, July 24, 2007
If Brazilians understood that the election of government is the place for them to excise the proplems of delays at airports, traffic etc, rather than at the airport or while stuck in traffic then the anger that they felt from the feeling of victimiztion and impotence would actually be effective. The problem is caused by those they have elected to represent them. It is before the fact of the elections that the possibility of positive change is to be had, not after. It is by intelligent choice, not by complacent or naive sufferage, that the energies of outrage can have effect.
there is no...
written by bo, July 24, 2007
accountability in brazil if you're a politician. So you can promise the moon to get elected and after that.....it's party time!
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written by O Velhinho, July 24, 2007
accountability in brazil if you're a politician. So you can promise the moon to get elected and after that.....it's party time!


A good sign is that the Paulistanos are organizing a rally on August 4th.Amazing that it is being done through ORKUT and let us see how the politicos are going to react.
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written by Ric, July 24, 2007
My AOPA manual says Burbank´s longest runway is 6886 feet. Congonhas main runway is 6365 feet. Burbank approaches over a gravel pit, gotta watch out for the smokestacks, but not a good camparison.
To: Ric
written by American in Rio, July 24, 2007
Well I've landed at Burbank (as a pilot) many times and agree. Certainly Congonhas approach is no worse (or more exciting) than the old airport in Hong Kong!
To: American in Rio
written by aes, July 24, 2007
I too have flown into the old Hong Kong airport and seen the houses above the plane with people in their windows sitting down to diner, but I am sure you were never ok'd to fly into a rain soaked unfinished runway, in a torrential rain with an airplane the size of an A320, without functioning reverse thrusters, on a runway that arguably was too short for such an aircraft.
AES
written by João da Silva, July 25, 2007
A Good observation you made.I hope your reading skill in Portuguese is getting better and if so, you should research about the history of Congonhas Airport. The International airport at Cumbica was built to run Congonhas as purely a domestic airport for the aircraft which require short runways. But the land seculation took over and they built more high rises,including a 47 story hotel. Rmember our friend GTY mentioning about Clube Bahamas. It sits right at the beginning of one end of the main runway! I am told that while landing from that end, the pilots lose about 400 feet of the runway.I am not a pilot,but I could tell ya straightaway, that on a rainy evening, a runway without Groovings to land an Airbus320 with 63 Ton load, the poor pilots didnt have a chance. Especially, if turns out that the thrust reversers were defective.Over 200 lives lost, because of the greed.

Anyway, you keep track of the news and keep contributing with your comments. Lets not keep quiet.
they could trap
written by FORREST ALLEN BROWN, July 25, 2007
just think trap the plans like they do on aircaft carriers
drag chutes

take the last 100 yards put in soft sand pit ,
after buying the undercarige of sevsral A320 some one would fix the
runway
To:Forrest
written by João da Silva, July 25, 2007
just think trap the plans like they do on aircaft carriers
drag chutes

take the last 100 yards put in soft sand pit ,
after buying the undercarige of sevsral A320 some one would fix the
runway


Forrest, if one thinks well, your idea is excellent. Modify the planes to land on short runways (since they insist on maintaining the present one), with stop cables (?), soft sand pits (we could always use sponges to reinforce the sand pits) and other cushioning materials to stop the A320s and other big ones including B777´s. Drag chutes combined with modern materials should be able to stop the planes. I think that it is the ideal solution for Congonhas.It will please the passengers who want to get into the city in a hurry, no need to demolish anything,the shopping center of Congonhas will remain intact doing brisk business,no matter how many landing gears are lost (Anyway, it is the problem of the French) and finally Congonhas can be converted into a really and truly Intenational Airport that can take all kind of modified Jumbo Jets (Including Space Shuttles).

One thing I would like to remind you that you forgot to add another additional feature. Catapaults at either end of the main runway ,just like the Aircraft carriers have to asssit the Aircraft to take off.
Guys, give us Brazilians a hand!
written by brazilian dude, July 25, 2007
A small suggestion to all international tourists: DON'T COME HERE! You have no idea of the kind of chaos that reigns in Brazil's airspace.Unfortunately, there is no end in sight to the infernal situation of air traffic over here.The ones responsible don't give a rat's ass, telling us there is no crisis, and that the runway at Congonhas is in tip-top shape... OOPS, sorry, it just collapsed in the rain!! Oh, well, but that's per the norm, believe us, it IS up to international standards...
The minister of tourism tells the passengers sleeping over at airport lines to "relax and enjoy it" , as in the infamous, "if rape is inevitable..." quip. The minister of defence, senile, blithering old coot that he is, says he "doesen't see" the existence of a crisis, saying it is all an "emotional problem". The president's direct advisor mimes an on-camera "f--- you" to the passengers and those that call for governmental action on a crisis caused by inertia.
If you have several seriously masochistic bones in your body, and want to turn vacations into a nightmare, then feel free to come over.Just be warned that flying here (IF you manage to take off) is sort of like going to the Bates Motel: sure, you check in. But will you check out??
Aviation here is seriously,SERIOUSLY F.U.B.A.R.
Not to mention roads, schools, ports, and whatever else the M-effing government lays its slimy, filthy corrupt tentacles on.However, the poor, functionally illiterate skid row citizens that receive the alms from the govt. can't really see this... all they want to know is where the next meal will come from, in an endless hand-to-mouth existence.So they keep worshipping our unbelievable president as if he represented the Second Coming. And democracy means one man, one vote...as well it should. However, that does mean that aberrations like Lula or Morales or Bush will crop up in countries with a large percentage of intellectually challenged citizens fairly often.
So please, PLEASE, boycott us.Pressure your airlines to refuse to land here, tell your travel agents you wouldn't be caught here dead (if you do come, that might be quite literal when you enter our airspace...), just forget we exist for a while. Maybe then, with a furious drain on our economy, there would be some action over here.
P.S. Bo, and other international travelers: maybe your attitude to layovers crystalized in a context where in most cases, layovers were due to circumstances beyond control, e.g. weather. Over here, we KNOW (and have known for some time now) that layovers are due to human screwups by companies and government agencies that treat us like cattle.Maybe that helps in causing the ugly reactions you saw. As for the road rage, it mostly happens because guys in general see cars as phallic symbols, so getting ahead of them in traffic would sort of be seen as cutting a piece of their dick off. You know, macho bulls**t. That's just part of the curse of being latin...
P.S. 2 Going to Joe Sharkey's blog is a good idea to keep current in this mess.Beware, however, that in several of his postings, the amount of s**t-for-brains comments are just flabbergasting.The man is a real magnet for the party-line babbling, rhethoric-chanting xenofobic pseudo patriotic brazilian type of vermin. Gives me the creeps... There are some lucid types, like Bo, but they few and far between.
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written by Ripped-off Tourist, July 26, 2007
"The country has been split into two sides."

Doesn't come as news to me. Actually, if you are in Brazil right now (specially Rio de Janeiro), you'll see what I can only think of as "national identity crisis": on the TV there's one Brazil, where people are called to be friendly to foreigners and cheer for the athletes. Walking through the city, you see absurd prizes to rip off any and all tourists, crowds/mobs who love to insult foreign athletes. There's chaos on the sky and yet people are ignorant to it. There's turmoil, but there's peace. There's poverty, but people pay a bitchload of money to those guys who bought out all tickets to the competitions and the stadiums get almost empty.

Honestly, how many different Brazils exist here???
...
written by Ric, July 27, 2007
One writer called Brazil a combination of Belgium and India.
Airbus design faults
written by Bop, July 29, 2007
It is easy to undersatnd why authorities are not looking at similar A320 accidents.

The Auto throttle controls are FUBAR big time. Airbus seems to have a track record of substituting Flight Data Recorders http://www.crashdehabsheim.net/CRenglish phot.pdf

Big money involved for sure

I travel frequently and avoid Airbus flights at all costs. Pilots who have progressed to other aircraft are quite vocal about their dislike of the Airbus lineup and the automated control systems that remove or delay Pilot control input.

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