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Rumors and Dreams of Eldorado that Are Bringing Brazilians to America PDF Print E-mail
2007 - August 2007
Written by Ilma Ribeiro Silva   
Monday, 20 August 2007 18:00

Brazilian National newspaper Brazilian emigration to the United States is directly related to globalization, international mobility, technological revolution and domestic economy. The phenomenon presents a long-short term impact on political, economic, socio-cultural, and technological developments in Brazil.

On the other hand, Brazilian immigration into the US has an effect in the social, economic, and cultural life in the American states where there are Brazilian immigrant settlements. The same effect is observable in Brazil where there are cities improved with money sent by immigrants or money former immigrants saved in the US and then invested wisely upon their return back home.

Given the current status of Brazilian immigrants in the US, who are sometimes called Brazucas, the crucial problems they suffer concern religion, health care, dietary habits, economic-social pattern, behavioral changes, and identity crisis.

Overall, immigration accentuates inequality and demands for social assistance. Among many other challenges is the language problem, and the lack of health assistance. Another challenge not to be ignored has to do with the Diaspora that immigration creates.

While some Brazilians successfully manage to bring to the US the whole family others leave behind husbands, wives, mother, children while trying their chance at the American job market.

Once in the US divorce is more frequent, women get liberated and children suffer the impact of dual income and two-working parents by acting out, being depressed, having poor academic performance. Adolescents, brought to America feel out of place, missing friends, family, the beach, and free entertainment that Brazil offers.

The attractive American job market for Brazilians brings also some advantages to Brazil. Among other things it boosts the Brazilian economy with the increased transfer of funds to families and investments in Brazil and a decrease in the number of unemployed.

In 2005, according to Brazil's Central Bank, the country received about US$ 5 billion from immigrants. It is not without any reason that in the last two years Brazilian politicians have been using immigration in their political discourse promising to help Brazilians in the US and elsewhere in an attempt to get votes.

Historical View on Immigration in the US

In order to better understand the Brazilian immigration into the US it is necessary to put the phenomenon into a historical perspective starting with the first Europeans who immigrated to America. According to the historical definition, modern immigration in the Western countries dates from the discovery of the new world.

Records show that 1820 was the first year that official immigration figures were taken in the US Immigration in the USA intensifies beginning in the late 1840s and peaking in the 1880s. In this decade famine and upheavals in Europe forced the arrival of more then 5 million immigrants in the US, usually by boat.

The majority came from northern and western Europe, mainly from the United Kingdom, Ireland, Germany, and Scandinavia. It is useful to differentiate between modern immigrants and their colonialist counterparts. Colonialists founded states and created separatist political and social organizations, whereas - at least theoretically - immigrants strive to become an integral part of the already formed society.

More than 1.1 million immigrants arrive each year in the US. About 700,000 are legal. About 200,000 die each year and another 200,000 leave the country. 2.2 million immigrants are Latino (23% of the immigrant population), 9.3 million are undocumented. There are about 3.2 million of them who are undocumented women (California -26%). About 4.5 million are undocumented men (18 and over).

The destinations of choice are Texas (12%), Florida (10%), New York (8%), Illinois (4%), and New Jersey (4%). But the most rapid growth in the undocumented population since the mid-1990s has been outside these states.  There are over one million attempts to cross the border every year, according to Fix and Passel (1994).

The first major in-migration began in the late 1840s and peaked in the 1880s, a decade during which more than 5 million immigrants arrived on US shores. The majority came from northern and western Europe, mainly from the United Kingdom, Ireland, Germany, and Scandinavia, following revolutions, famine, and upheavals in Europe. (p.1)

The US immigration policies are based on five broad goals: (1) the social goal of family unification, (2) the economic goal of increasing US productivity and standard of living, (3) the cultural goal of promoting diversity, (4) the moral goal of promoting human rights, and (5) the national and economic security goal of preventing undocumented immigration. Critics of immigration often overlook the non-economic goals. Fix and Passel ( 1994 p1)

To deal with the questions that immigration raises, the phenomenon must be reviewed in its sociopolitical, personal, and economic context. It appears that while many factors are responsible for the relocation of people, the primary factor is economics.

In Brazil religion has become a new factor responsible for bringing immigrants to America. The evangelic faith is spreading throughout Brazil and many new Christians want to come to America where the faith is stronger and where they can get better support.

Other factors that attract Brazilians to the US are aspirations for personal betterment and religious freedom. Political frictions, sexual discrimination, racial disputes, and inequality are all important components of the immigration dynamics that lead Brazilian people to immigrate.

Many other reasons are responsible for Brazilian immigration to the US, such as the myth - spread through rumors - that everyone has a high living standard, that it is easy to find a job as well as to receive welfare, buy properties, and have more than one car. Rumors make many Brazilian believe that the United States pays high salaries, even for simple jobs such as delivering pizza and newspapers, house cleaning, and yard care.

This misconception yields belief in better opportunities for academic exposure, making money, or even cross-cultural marriage, all benefits that attract foreigners to the United States.  Sum it all up, and the advantages are translated into success and better living.

Many Brazilians are aware of the transformations that the global mechanism imposes in Brazil and elsewhere and how globalization is affecting the way Brazil administers and conducts its international policies. Among many Brazilians there is a new awareness about the inequality among countries.

This raises many questions that lead to blame the US and the Brazilian government. After all no single answer can explain why developed countries offer more opportunities and better life conditions than countries undergoing development and modernization.

On July 5, 2004, the Brazilian Ministry of Foreign Affairs released new data on the immigrants' demography. According to the ministry, approximately 2.5 million Brazilians now live outside Brazil. Official data show that only about 1.8 million Brazilians living overseas have used Brazilian Consulates for services such as newborn registrations, validation of birth certificates, or issuance of Notary Public.

Demography of Brazilian Immigrants

Our research among community leaders indicates that the New York -New Jersey area has the most influential members of the Brazilian community, around 300,000. A large number work for Brazilian corporations, government, and media, and many are small business owners.

Florida has an estimated 2 million Brazilians. A large number are business owners. As in any immigration influx, the settlements increase and turn into a magnet for other would be immigrants. First one single person arrives in a chosen city; the next step is to bring the family or marry some Brazilian left behind. Then the children are born.

The third step is the dissemination of the news - letters, phone calls, e-mails and regular trips back home spread the buzz among family and friends. It goes somewhat like that: "The United States is the place where one can make a lot of money, have a lot of opportunity. A pizza deliverer can make about US$ 1,200 a week. One can open his or her own business and build up the dream of a better life."

These proclaimed benefits are enough to get a crowd to follow to the land of opportunity. The settlement happens by state of origin to state in the new country. As an example, people from the state of Minas Gerais for some unknown reason chose the Boston metropolitan area despite the huge differences in climate.

Many give up after finding out they can't stand snow and that they have to change jobs in the winter time. The majority of Brazilians in California come from Goiânia, the capital of Goiás, in Brazil's midwest. New York is the only state that attracts Brazilians from all over.

Brazilians are found in almost every corner of the globe, but the United States does inspire and stimulate most immigration. Portugal, for instance, shelters around 80,000 Brazilians. Japan has already about 265,000 Brazilians to the point that crimes committed by its Brazilian population are escalating.

In 1995, Japan claimed that the number of illegal activities committed by Brazilians, had reached 1.5 million, and in 2002, the number jumped to 2.3 million. By 2002, the Brazilian community was rated second place in criminality in Japan.

The Japanese police documented about 3,400 offenses by Brazilian immigrants. The Japanese Consul in Brazil, Hirofumi Ohkuma, states that Brazilian crimes are not organized, and that so far there are no Brazilian mobs in Japan. However, there are at least 273 Brazilians in jail.

A Japanese committee was sent to Brazil to meet with Brazil's Ordem dos Advogados, an organization equivalent to the American Bar Association. The Japanese commission wanted to learn more about Brazilian laws, how criminal punishment is dispensed, and about Brazilian security.

Undocumented Global Mobility

The number of Brazilian women forced into prostitution abroad has increased considerably in recent years. Most of the women who are forced into sex slavery are coaxed by international organized crime that sends representatives to developing countries and takes women between 18 and 20 to Spain, Portugal, and Italy.

On arrival, their passports are taken, and they are forced into a life of prostitution to pay off their travel debt. Admittedly, many of these women leave their own country voluntarily believing that by leaving Brazil, they can realize their dreams of making easy and fast money, get rich, marry, and help their families.

Often, because of this voluntary departure, there is no apparent crime and the police are shackled in their ability to intervene. As a result, the Brazilian government is seeking to generate awareness by handing out flyers to young women at airports, warning them that they "may never see their families again."  

But this seems to be more an European problem. In the US, undocumented Brazilians become part of a faceless crowd with identity problems. Official figures from the 1990 Census Bureau estimated that only 94,000 Brazilians were living in the United States at the time.

The Archdiocese of Boston estimated in 1993 that there were about 150,000 Brazilians in the greater Boston area alone, but community leaders think that the number would be much higher, more like 250,000 (Michelle Chihara, Boston Phoenix, "The Rio World").

While no definitive numbers exist, some social scientists believe that the greater Boston area may have the highest concentration of Brazilians outside Brazil. Brazilians, they believe, have been attracted and continue to migrate to this area, in part, due to the already well-established Portuguese speaking communities originating from Cape Verde, the Azores, and Portugal.

The largest settlement of Brazilians in the area is located in Somerville, Framingham, and Marlboro where they account for 10 to 20% of the local population. (Maxine Margolis, Encyclopedia of Migration, 1998: 100).

Hillary Wasch of the Miami Herald, in April 21, 2004 p. 2 wrote that in the city of Pompano Beach, Florida, there are 1,500 Brazilians. However, city spokeswoman Sandra King and leaders of the Brazilian community in Pompano said that the number is much larger.

Silai Almeida, pastor of the First Brazilian Baptist Church in Pompano stated: "The economy is very strong in Pompano and we help the economy here, but we don't have any representation. We don't have a voice."

Maladaptation and Acculturation

Lack of adaptation among Brazilian immigrants in the US leads to defiant behavior, ingratitude, stress, abuse of drugs, poor health care and diet habits, suicide, and conflicts between the two cultures, since the more time an immigrant spends in the new country, the more adaptation problems he or she will have in the original culture. 

Immigration brings changes to the mainstream culture, but immigrants also suffer an impact of transformation by the new environment. Cultural adaptation is a radical, continuing, and endless process that demands cognition. 

Successful acculturation depends on motivation, lifestyle, level of education, and personal fulfillment in order to survive and settle. Adaptation depends on appraisal, a process that involves appreciation for benefits, and capability of coping with hardship. There is a relational meaning to acculturation that depends on well-being and the person-environment relationship.

In the Bay Area, in California, Brazilian immigrants face housing, health, and education problems. It is common to find 22 people living in a two-bedroom house. Most of the immigrants do not have health insurance, mainly for cultural reasons. They do not feel the need to spend money for "something they are not going to use."

Also in Brazil health care is a state duty. As far as education, a large number of children of Brazilian immigrants face academic poor performance, stress due to academic challenges, and the impossibility to enter college for legal problems. Undocumented immigrants can't go to college.

There are Brazilians who live in a constant back and forth between Brazil and the US, until the immigration office stops them. Usually these Brazilians have problems in both cultures. While they are living in the US, their hearts and minds are still in Brazil.

They have difficulty learning English and mixing with Americans, for fear of being deported or failing to adapt to the new culture. Usually those undocumented immigrants and even legal ones socialize among themselves in the Catholic churches and evangelical temples that offer services in Portuguese.

Small Business and Domestic Force

Brazilians and Latinos in the US can be found working on service jobs: housekeeper, cook, bus boy, pizza deliverer, newspaper carrier, housecleaner, caretaker, gardener, agricultural worker, handyman, babysitter, taxi driver, and construction worker. However there are those who own construction companies, beauty spas, beauty salons, furniture stores, transportation companies, and housecleaning businesses.

Some of them open their own pizzerias, spas, beauty salons, gardening and cleaning services and transportation businesses. Brazilian immigrants in the USA send home about US$ 1.5 billion a year. Despite their prosperity and hard work many do not have a bank account. Some Brazilians in some states in the USA are still waiting for the help that president Lula has promised.

Immigration Hardship

Once in the USA Brazilian immigrants who bring children face countless hardships. In most cases the children are left by themselves after school while their parents are working until later. Children can't count on parents to help with homework, since the majority does not speak English and have low education in Brazil.

One of the biggest problems is health care. In the United States, is mandatory to have health insurance. A good Prefer Provider coverage costs about US$ 976,50 every three months. The health issues an immigrant faces begin with diet. Usually there is an increase on body weight due to the new diet, based on fattening, processed foods, lack of vegetables, and the abuse of fast food.

A large number develop heart diseases, diabetes, and high blood pressure. Children of immigrants born in the US and Brazilian children and adolescents who come to the US face bullying in schools for being shy, not speaking the language and having poor academic performance.

Other factor is the language barrier that impairs socialization. In an attempt to be accepted, many end up adopting hip hop fashion and mannerisms of other minorities. In schools these minorities form their own groups and try to impose themselves by abusive language, harassment, and physical violence against Brazilian adolescents and children.

A 2001 census showed that there are 9.3 million undocumented immigrants in the USA, representing 26% of the immigrant population. The Urban Institute report states that Mexico makes up over half of undocumented immigrants - 57% or 5.3 million. Another 3.3 million (23% ) are from other Latin America countries.

About 10% are from Asia, 5% from Europe and Canada, and 5% from the rest of the world. The undocumented make up more then 40% of the foreign-born population in 10 states which saw their foreign-born population grow rapidly during 1990s. The high growth population is concentrated in the Rocky Mountains, the Midwest, and the Southeast. The states where the undocumented populations grew mostly are Arizona, Georgia, California, and New Jersey.  

The number of undocumented individuals in the labor force in the US is about 6 million, which represent about 5% of US workers. The labor force participation rate of 96% exceeds that of men who are legal immigrants or who are US citizens because undocumented labor are young and likely to be disabled, retired, or in school.

According to the Urban Institute undocumented women are less likely to be in the labor force (62%) than undocumented men or than women who are US citizens. One reason is that proportionately more undocumented women are of childbearing age and undocumented women are more likely to have children and remain at home than US citizens.

Undocumented workers on low wages earn considerably less than working US workers. About two-thirds of undocumented workers earn less than twice the minimum wage of US$ 6.50 an hour. What an undocumented worker makes a month is not enough to pay health care.

Most of the Latino population in California, for example, rely on Latino Clinics, such as Clinica de La Raza to receive basic health care needs and dental care.

Undocumented workers make up less than 10% of the 43 million low-wage workers in the United States. Women make up a substantial share of 41% of the adult undocumented population. There are about 4.5 millions undocumented men (18 and over) and 3.2 million undocumented women.

In the US there are about 1.5 million children of undocumented immigrants, all undocumented. Another 3 million children whose parents are undocumented are US citizens because they were born in the United States. Public schools are stressed out with second languages students. The Latino population, mostly catholic, does not practice family planning.

According to a study conducted by Capps, Passel and Fix (2005) on The Health Being of Young Children of Immigrants, children of immigrants are more likely to present poor health and not have health insurance or a usual source of health care. These factors contribute in large part to poor health.

Capps, Passel and Fix (2005) write that young low-income children of immigrants remain twice as likely to be uninsured therefore out of reach for health assistance if compared with those of natives (22 versus 11%), despite a substantial increase in the coverage of low-income children of immigrants through Medicaid and other public programs between 1999 and 2002 (from 45 to 57%).

Seven percent of young children of immigrants are reported in fair or poor health by their parents, over twice the rate for children of natives (3%). More than twice as many young children of immigrants as natives lack a usual source of health care (8 versus 3%).

The findings of Capps, Passel and Fix (2005) show that children of immigrants are more often in parental care and less often in center-based child care. Children of immigrants under 6 are more likely to receive child care from parents (53 versus 34% for children of natives) and less likely to be in center-based care (17 versus 26%).

Children of immigrants in general come from a household where parents have little or no education. Capizzano and Adams, 2003) wrote that the educational differences can be partially explained by family structure, low incomes, patterns of work participation, and, perhaps, by differing propensity for care.

There is no precise number of Brazilian immigrants in surveys and there is a reason for that. Afraid of being reported to the ICE, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Brazilian immigrants do not participate in surveys. To make matters worse when they go to clinics or enroll in a school, the questionnaires always ask for Latinos not for South American, without discriminating among countries.

The National Survey of America's families (NSAF) in 1999 released a survey showing that there are three areas of great hardship among immigrants: food, housing, and health care. These findings reinforce observable problems of a population whose assistance from social programs has been diminished since August 1996 with the legislation that extended to each state the option to deny coverage to non-citizens.

The federal welfare reform law introduced in 1996 a large measure of restrictions on immigrants to use Temporary Assistance for Needy families (TANF), food stamps, Medicaid, and other social programs. Since then the federal government had restored eligibility for some categories of immigrants. However many others are still ineligible.

There are about 18.7 million foreign-born persons in the USA, 80% of children with immigrant parents are themselves citizens, 71% of total of the nation's population. In California there were 2,000 children born from Brazilian parents registered at schools in 2004.

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Ilma Ribeiro Silva, Ph.D., is a journalist and advocate for the Brazilian population in the US. She is president of the Brazilian Foundation in San Francisco. She is a published author in Brazil. This work is one chapter of the author's offprint book Brazil's Choice, a work to be published in the US.



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looking for a new life,where there country has faild
written by FORREST ALLEN BROWN, August 21, 2007
in a country where the tails fo the US where money if free .
housing is free .
hospitals are free all you have to do is get there .

for the the first time in recored history there were less circsums in the us than ever before
not that there were less babies but more are from forgin countries that dont beleive in the proess .
also there were more C sections as that is the norm in third world countries as the doctors would rather just take it out than have to set till its ready .

more women from other countries are having children than native born people as the general population of the US is shrinking
the forgin are growing at a rate the rats cant keeep up with ,
putting a strain on all the social wellfare systems of the US
and taxing the workers to the point of them starting to retire and get out of the country
and leave it to the freeloaders and the goverment that does not want to do any thing about it

what we are looking at is in a few years it will be like a bird island starts out very beatuiful
and after a few years the over taxing of the system begins to drain down all till
soon the place is dead to all and what is left is
only a dead island and the birds start looking for another place to light
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written by bo, August 21, 2007
Adolescents, brought to America feel out of place, missing friends, family, the beach, and free entertainment that Brazil offers.



Yeah, the U.S. only has 7,600 miles of coastline, nearly double Brazil, one can see how a brazilian in the U.S. would miss the beach. And "free" entertainment? I guess they mean those guys at the stop lights juggling and twirling sticks! smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by bo, August 21, 2007
Historical View on Immigration in the US



Firstly, the vast majority of brazilians that are living in the U.S. cannot be labeled "immigrants" by the true definition of the word. An immigrant, by definition, is a person that leaves one country to LIVE in another, AND also "acclimate" to the new country's customs and culture. It certainly isn't to enter another country, legally or illegally, and if legally, overstay your visa by 5 years, make as much money as possible to send home to sustain your family in your "home" country in their dreaded conditions that were primarily caused due to the fact of little to no opportunity provided by their own thieving, corrupt gov't. And when enough money is made return to your "home" country and start a business with the money you made in the country you "immigrated" to.

That's not called immigration, it's called trespassing, illegal immigration, felonous. Quite humorous that the brazilian gov'ts. answer to low-middle class to middle class young people who don't have any opportunities available to them is to turn a blind eye to the falsification of documents and existance of coyotes, which is blatently practiced in places like governador de valadares. Instead of investing in education and creating jobs, let's just let 'em leave!

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written by bo, August 21, 2007
In the United States, is mandatory to have health insurance. A good Prefer Provider coverage costs about US$ 976,50 every three months.


And in Brazil it's not? Let me tell ya, I've been to public hospitals in every state in the northeast of this country, and it's appalling. An english buddy of mine was shot in the leg on April 30th of this year, the bullet hit a vein, he nearly bled to death. The police called me on his way to the hospital as they saw my phone number as the last number he called on his cellular. They sent him to a public hospital here in Aracaju....Hospital João Alves, named after our illustrious ex-governor who's son, and himself, just recently got caught in the middle of operation "navalha". When I entered the floor was covered with people lying on it, but that's not the worst part. Two people lying on the floor were DEAD amongst the living!! I have never in my life seen conditions as these in a kennel, let along a hospital for humans.

So, you don't have insurance in Brazil??? Welcome to Hospital João Alves. Where if you're not dead on arrival, you soon will be!
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written by bo, August 21, 2007
About two-thirds of undocumented workers earn less than twice the minimum wage of US$ 6.50 an hour.



Where did you pull that statistic out of?? I'd love to see the source, but I have a feeling it starts with a B and ends with an A, and has "und" in the middle!

The above statement is 100% complete and utter bulls**t. If 67% of illegal immigrants were making less than $3.25/hour why in the f**k would the U.S. have 12-20 million illegals?? LOL!! What an absurd statement! Listen Ilma, the american business owner that hires illegals DOES NOT pay the illegal less than minimum wage! It's a benefit for him because do you know who he screws?? The U.S. gov't! He doesn't pay taxes on the employees, state, federal, social security, etc. Most times they pay the illegals in CASH, no checks, no evidence. Believe me when I say, you won't find 1% of illegal immigrants working in the U.S. making less than $5/hr. You just won't. It's too easy to find work for minimum wage and above, even for illegals.
My bad....
written by bo, August 21, 2007
now I understand. You're saying that 2/3 of illegal workers earn less than $13/hour. Well, that's pretty f**king understandable....isn't it? That's $2,100 per month, and that's only working 40 hour weeks. Now don't get excited, we understand that one never uses the word "only" and "40 hour week" in the same sentence in Brazil!! smilies/wink.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/wink.gif smilies/grin.gif
Bo...
written by brazilian dude, August 21, 2007
This lady has never: A) actually come in contact with brazilian fuucked-up reality. Public health? s**t, E.R.'s here are scarier than MASH units. Won't even comment on the rest (however: go to the south of brazil to see some different standards. You REALLY are not in a good place...unfortunately, most of brazil is like aracaju...)
B) Actually come in contact with the real-life(non-academic) experience of living in the U.S. She wonders why brazilians flock to Boston or California, and not, say, mississippi or arkansas... Shiit, they want the opposite of brazil, not something similar.
Dumbass.
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written by U.S. observer, August 21, 2007
The author is hilarious!!!,,, the article is flawed !!!,,, how in hell would anyone know how many brazilians are trafficked ,smuggled, out of Brazil to the u.s.a. ?,,, only the organized criminal traffickers in Minas Gerais know by the fees they receive for their crimes..... AMERICANS OVERWHELMINGLY ARE DEMANDING AN END TO THE CRIMINAL INVASION OF ILLEGAL ALIENS NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY THEY ORIGINATE FROM...........AND,,,,,,, BRAZIL MUST STOP ITS COMPLICITY IN THIS CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE.........THE FUTURE OF ILLEGALS IN AMERICA IS ENDING,,,,,, ENFORCEMENTS ARE CLOSING IN,,,,, AND BRAZIL,,, YOUR CITIZENS ARE COMING HOME!!!!!!.... AMERICA IS A COUNTRY OF LAWS !!!!,,, .......
El Dordao?
written by GTY, August 21, 2007
Sure, when compared to the lives they left in Brazil, I am sure that the perception of the US is El Dorado. Because my wife is Carioca, I have a direct and unique perspective on the authors posting. While I agree with Bo's assesment that most Brazilians in the US are here illegally, we know both legal resident Brazilians as well as "the tresspassers". I can see the same thing happening with Brazilians that I did with Mexican's when I was a kid in San Diego. Brazilians as a whole in the US are very savy, if not eductaed and a hard working bunch, the problem is their kids. Born here and automatcialy US citizens with no fear of deportation, Brazilians have bred a bunch a lazy, "gringoized" kids who are no different than the spoiled brats of Zona Sul, while they have not yet formed the violent gangs like those of Central American immigrants, they are heavily involved in crime and prefer not to work. They are the most pathetic bunch of lazy brats ever breed. And the sad part is, due to the Brazilian culture, no matter how many times they get arrested or if they don't have a job, they can live with Mommy until they are 40 years old...or longer.

I also agree with Bo that 2/3 of Brazilians are not working for less than the minimum wage. Those making the minimum wage are working in Walmart or Mcdonalds or other companyies where they must prove citizenship or residency. Most Brazilians we know work in the "cash" economy. Until recently, this economy was very competative and most Brazilian workers made MUCH MORE than the minimum wage. This is rapidly changing as the sub prime loan fisasco and the ultimate slow down of new and existing home construction and improvement are now a 20 year lows.

Brazilian's who are almost all tied to the construction market in one way or another, are taking a finanical beating right now, we know several families that have homes if foreclosure, although we don't know how they purchased a home in the first place. Of course, they have all come to their "rich gringo friend" for help, but there is only so much we can do. I think the El Dorado image is wearing off for most Brazilians, some have been smart and purchased homes or property in Brazil and can return if need be, but many have been caught up in the "American Way", leveraged with loans for cars, furniture and big screen TV's, now they are in big trouble. It's going to get very ugly before it get any better.
" trying their chance at the American job market. "
written by ch.c., August 21, 2007
but read all Brazilians newspapers, all brazilians internet sites, what Lula and his gang dont stop repeating daily :

B R A Z I L I S B O O M I N G

Therefore why go elsewhere ? In a country where growth is slowing ???????
Or are every Brazilian newspapers, citizen, internet sitesarticles, and bin Lula and his gang simply.....LYING ?????


Laugh......laugh....laugh !

Ohhh and to Joao, if as you told me Brazil has so much wealth (do you recall ?) why are Brazilians dreaming of fleing out of Tropical Paradise and go to Hell.....even if they must be smuggled there illegally and......even if they have to pay US$ 10'000.- ?????


In my view only masochists are ready to pay US$ 10'000.- to go to Hell !!!!!

Isnt it ?
Perspective
written by GTY, August 21, 2007
It is interesting in these days of Anti Americanism, just how many people from the worlds s**tholes and even from developed countries will leave their families and risk their lives to try and come here.

Ask the question..."How many Anerican's will sneak into another country in the dead of the night, cross deserts and mountians, to live and work illegally"? An American passport is still the most desirable piece of paper on the face of the earth...even our European friends, although and unwilling to admit it for fear of reprecussion, would be here if they could.
Ch.c
written by João da Silva, August 21, 2007
Ohhh and to Joao, if as you told me Brazil has so much wealth (do you recall ?)


I didnt even get involved in this discussion.But you decided to drag me into it and I guess I have to say something. I do recall about my commenting about Brazil´s wealth and your reply about Switzerland and Japan.Also worth reading the comment of AES about Super Tanker and its need to have a good Captain,Officers and Crew.With all the wealth we have,are we using our "Brain Power" ? You know as well as I do that we are not using. If at all our leadership is concerned, they would start asking themselves, why so many skilled and unskilled labor are in U.S. and other countries. Years ago, the middle class used help out the poor to get out of their poverty.Now, that class is trying not to become poor. Can you imagine a highly qualified Brazilian Engineer losing his job at the age of 55? What incentive does he have to help the poor? I can go on and on,but it makes me mad.

btw, did someone extricate GTY from the belly of a Pacific shark? He can narrate his story about surviving so many weeks inside the Shark´s intestine. smilies/grin.gif
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written by bo, August 21, 2007
They are the most pathetic bunch of lazy brats ever breed. And the sad part is, due to the Brazilian culture, no matter how many times they get arrested or if they don't have a job, they can live with Mommy until they are 40 years old...or longer.


I know you couldn't be more right but still....I'm speechless. Don't tell me they do it in America too....."say it ain't so Joe!"





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written by João da Silva, August 21, 2007
even our European friends, although and unwilling to admit it for fear of reprecussion, would be here if they could.


That is one of the most malicious and vicious comments made by an American on his "European Friends". He also forgets that the folks North of his border could travel freely to U.S.S.R and Cuba with their Passports.
From the belly
written by GTY, August 21, 2007
Hi Joao. Been busy with the cross country move, but we have closed on our home and will move in this weekend, currently in a corporate apartment and was in London last week. You know me, have to have all the frills, 5 bedrooms and 4 full bathrooms under 3700 square feet in Pleasanton, CA. I won't tell you exactly how much we paid (but if you guess over $1M you wouldn't be far off), jacuzzi in the master bathroom as well as three gas fireplaces. No pool, but we are working on that.

My beautiful brown Carioca has already found the dozen Brazilians who live in the area, she is working on the house warming party now, has hired a Ciapoiera for the party, should be fun. I have to admit, I miss Florida, this new job is too much like work.
Joao
written by GTY, August 21, 2007
OH...my mother-in-law returned to Brazil yesyerday!
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written by João da Silva, August 21, 2007
I'm speechless


This is some new experience for ya smilies/grin.gif
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written by bo, August 21, 2007
Ask the question..."How many Anerican's will sneak into another country in the dead of the night, cross deserts and mountians, to live and work illegally"?



And you forgot to add, "pay 10 grand U.S.!" And many times they have to beg, borrow and/or steal to get it. And the kicker, not even be guaranteed entry! Many get caught! Money lost! Try again when you have another 10K!
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written by bo, August 21, 2007
You know me, have to have all the frills, 5 bedrooms and 4 full bathrooms under 3700 square feet in Pleasanton, CA. I won't tell you exactly how much we paid (but if you guess over $1M you wouldn't be far off), jacuzzi in the master bathroom as well as three gas fireplaces. No pool, but we are working on that.



Just moved into mine GTY, about 17 km's from my apartment where I was living. Over 800 M2 built on a 1800 M2 lot. Swimming pool in the middle of 4 buildings, the principle house, garage, maid&gardeners quarters/gameroom, and churrasqueiro. I'm in a closed condominium, 70 meters from the entrance. On the other side of the street is the best beach bar in all of Sergipe, and one of the best I've seen in Brazil. From October until the end of March you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a beautiful piece of ass!
GTY
written by João da Silva, August 21, 2007
Great to have you back,bud.I bet Skipper and AES would feel likewise.Professor is MIA in Portugal.

OH...my mother-in-law returned to Brazil yesyerday!


Was she deported? How the hell did you manage to keep and put up with her for almost 6 months in U.S. of A? You must have lots of influence in ICE (or erstwhile INS)
Bo
written by GTY, August 21, 2007
I have to admit, you have me wondering if perhaps a trade with you would not be a very good deal. Congratulations! We are going to buy some beach property sometime later this year to build a retirement/personal residence. We are looking at Bahia, but would consider other locations, anywhere but Rio, to close to her family. I'll let you know as soon as we settle in and get serious, probably towards the end of the year when we have a long trip to Brazil planned, you can provide some advice.

Heading down to Manus for 5 days of fishing the end of next week, taking 3 Gringos' who are already worried about being eaten by Pygmies, should be a blast.
Bo Fishing
written by Michael William, August 21, 2007
Bo,

Let me know about your fishing in BR. I am planning a trip to the Pantanal....plan on doing Billfish other saltwater water in Canavieras next season

Little Buddy
written by GTY, August 21, 2007
You must really miss the Professor Little Buddy, but I see the Skipper is still alive and well.

Thanks God my mother in law can only stay 6 months at a time on her Visa.
Bo
written by GTY, August 21, 2007
I'll give you a report, the place was recommneded by a good friend in Sao Paulo, great rates, You can check it out at www.tucunaadventures.com.br.
GTY
written by João da Silva, August 21, 2007
Thanks God my mother in law can only stay 6 months at a time on her Visa.


It is not "Thanks God",but "Thank God". Never imagined in my life that a Brasilian had to correct an American. I hope you didnt use this expression, when you were in London Town with your "European Friends".Talking about these "Friends", are they females or males?

As for your Mom-in-law, I am sure she is happy to be back in Rio and watching her Novelas.She must have driven your pool cleaners,handymen,the Catholic church,etc; crazy with her never ending sermons. I hope the U.S. Government paid for her deportation and not charging you!
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written by bo, August 21, 2007
We are looking at Bahia,



Let me know, I know a lot of people there.


I'll let you know as soon as we settle in and get serious, probably towards the end of the year when we have a long trip to Brazil planned, you can provide some advice.


You can always swing by here for a few days, we have plenty of room. Got ten bathrooms in this joint!


Heading down to Manus for 5 days of fishing the end of next week, taking 3 Gringos' who are already worried about being eaten by Pygmies, should be a blast.


LMAO...that's funny. Although I can take you on a boat trip through the islands close to Salvador and their fears wouldn't be too awfully unfounded!

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written by bo, August 21, 2007
written by João da Silva, 2007-08-21 16:50:12

Thanks God my mother in law can only stay 6 months at a time on her Visa.



It is not "Thanks God",but "Thank God".



Thank you João....keep up the good work! smilies/wink.gif
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written by GTY, August 22, 2007
Made my day Bo...thanks smilies/smiley.gif
Bo
written by João da Silva, August 22, 2007
Thank you João....keep up the good work!


You have to remember that I was taught English by an Irish priest (thank God) and we have to keep a close watch on these Hispanic Americans who loosely use the phrases like "Thanks God" smilies/grin.gif
Pleasanton Memories
written by Ric, August 22, 2007
The yearly car show. Racing Porsches on the west side back roads. The old light bulb in the Pleasanton-Livermore fire dept. The genuine human skeleton in the long, low drawer at the Odd Fellows. Scud running over the hills to Hayward.

A great place to live.
Ric
written by João da Silva, August 22, 2007
A great place to live


A real cú do mundo smilies/grin.gif. Lets see if GTY understands this expression smilies/cool.gif
keeping mobile
written by FORREST ALLEN BROWN, August 22, 2007
we were in baltmore for a while and ran into a bunch of gringo nized brasilians .

they arew worse than the politicans in brasil as trhey do feel the US owes them a living and citicens ship as they spent
good money staying here after there visa expired .

the new rule is deport the parents and send the kid with them as no one can watch them it seem to be working some have started selling off there stuff
and leaving , but like most brasilians there stuff is worth more than every bodies stuff .

the trouble with most ileagle are they want to force there culture on the US dont want to speak english at work , drive like at home country , and take as much as they feel
if they dont some one will get more then them .

dont get me wrong
if they go through the paper work the right way than they dersive our hart felt thanks for knowing the ruels will be enforced here

Dreams of Eldorado
written by Ric, August 22, 2007
Bring Brazilians to America? Someone tell them that Eldorados are no longer manufactured, and pimps have moved on to other models. Like Escalades with 22 inch spinners and 700 dollar rubber band tires.

Stay in Gov Valadares and customize an Omega or a Landau.
Joao
written by GTY, August 22, 2007
A real s**thole Joao? Are you kidding, Northern California is El Dorado literaly...if you know our history.
ICE Round up in Santa Clara Valley
written by GTY, August 22, 2007
Wow, ICE rounded up over 100 illegal immigrants in the CA Central Valley today! All had either deportation orders or felony convictions. I was a skeptic, but I have to admit, they really seem to be serious about immigration this time.
Joao
written by GTY, August 22, 2007
Why not correct your retarded friend Forest's spelling...or there is not that much time in a day.
Forrest...
written by brazilian dude, August 22, 2007
Read your story.Got any pictures of the Roamdeep? Will keep eyes open...
Hope to be able to help you introduce new "owners" to that gentle old lady, Ma Deuce...
brasilian dude read this
written by FORREST ALLEN BROWN, August 22, 2007
On July 10, 2007 yet another forgin yatch was sized by the Brazilian navy .
brought to you by the same people that sized the Roamdeep .
The Comando Do 3 ditrito naval , Natal

This was a catamaran 42 ft owned by a french couple ,
who made the mistake to stop and render aid to 2 Brazilian fisher men about 175kl off the coast of Brazil ,

the sailors were on the long reach from south Africa to Fortaleza when about 8:30 am they saw 2 people on what they though was a raft in the ocean to there port the people were waving rags and jumping up and down ,

The french doing what all sailors do stoped to render aid to the 2 men , they gave them food and water and brought them aboard there boat the AMIEE LEIGH .

took there fishing boat in tow and set a line too the town of PI PA near Natal where the fisher men were from .when they got there the 2 men got on there raft and paddled towards shore .

4 days later while at anchor in Fortaleza a boat with 3 Brazilian navy personal and some other person came abroad the boat to serve papers on them as the fisher men had turned them in as ramming them on the ocean and only st oping after they swam after the boat and climbing up on the stern .

the people were taken to the captain of ports where they had checked in a few days before and were told to sign the papers of the fact the Brazilians were telling the truth and the french were to pay a fine and reimburse the fisher men for the total loss of there fishing boat.

At one point in the interview the french told the inturperter they had a film of the whole thing and would be glad to show them it , the navy personal asked for the camera as too see the film , at that point they said it could be seen on the boats web page when shown the film the navy said it was not positive proof as id did not show the ramming the fishing boat .

when the people protested and sent the interrupter out to get a lawyer the navy got mad as the french couple refused to say any more till they had a lawyer present , the navy told them it was not nasary as there boat had been towed to the dock and was being looked at by the navy for marks on the paint and chips in the glass work .

by the time the lawyer got there it was late the french wanted to go back to there boat and rest they were told they had to stay in a near by hotel as a guard was watching the boat as they did not want them to run away in the night .

The next day with the lawyer in tow they showed up at the captain of ports to settle the matter the lawyer wanted the 2 Brazilian fisher men to be brought to the office for an interview , they were told that the men were poor and could not make the trip with out some sort of help to get there .

During this part of the interview the lawyer told them it would be best to just pay a little money to the navy to let them go even though they did nothing wrong , as it was the Brazilian way or they could be kept there for weeks or longer till the fisher man got what they wanted( money) and were using the law to get what they wanted .

and as a stranger to the country they were the ones at fault no matter if they were not guilty .

So at the request of the lawyer they paid off the navy and the fishermen to the toon of $10.000 reals .

when taken back to there boat it had been robed striped to the paint job , they were left with the sails on the mast and the compass and a few charts .they voiced there utter dislike for the country of Brazil and its law and were told if they kept on they would be fined and possibly deported for insulting a member of the navy and the country of Brazil

So with little to nothing left they got on there boat and set sail for a country with rules of law .

As a final act of french anger he took down the Brazilian flag took a dump on it and threw it at the dock and the Brazilians .

and when he got to the french held islands in the Caribbean he placed his artical in the news paper and posted it on the net to let people like he and i never to take your boat to Brazil as it will be robed by someone

GYT
if you have been here you know i dont care about spelling as you seem to get my point any way
also you try to type on a rolling key board while driving your boat
what is ICE

see the last relase 71 % of US citisens want it to be required that english is to be used in the work place
and if you want to be a anturalised cicisen you must speak and read english


Jeezus, Forrest...
written by brazilian dude, August 22, 2007
All the more reason to keep looking for your boat and gettting it back.Anyone on board can swim back to land.
Or not.
I say again, got any pictures of the boat? I can set up an e-mail account for you to send it.
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written by bo, August 22, 2007
Someone tell them that Eldorados are no longer manufactured, and pimps have moved on to other models. Like Escalades with 22 inch spinners and 700 dollar rubber band tires.



Ain't that the truth! smilies/grin.gif


Loved those old El Dorado's though. Extended family only had jeeps and cadillac's growing up in the '70s. Fleetwoods, Broughams, El Dorado's, old man even had a special made El Dorado with a custom front and back which they called, "El Classico". It was the ultimate in pimp-mobiles!! smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by bo, August 22, 2007






My old man's was much better looking than this one, was burgundy with white leather on the top and back. Believe it or not he "sold" it to his sister, my aunt. I put sold in "" because she never paid him! Now I see it would sell for around 50K U.S.! smilies/angry.gif
ICE
written by GTY, August 22, 2007
Immigration Control & Enforcement, formally the INS.
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written by João da Silva, August 22, 2007
Immigration Control & Enforcement, formally the INS.


Nope.It is Immigrations and Customs Enforcement,formerly the INS.
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written by Ana P., August 22, 2007
Lots of immigrants came to Brazil on boats risking their lives as well.
Ana's Dads Yacht!
written by bo, August 22, 2007
Immigrants coming to Brazil risking their lives?
written by brazilian dude, August 22, 2007
The ones that came did so in large immigration ships (bar the 1500's rattraps), generally from famine-ravaged or war-torn regions where their lives would REALLY be forfeit.
They SAVED their lives by coming here.A totally different context.The only thing in common was the desperation.
Ana, just think:how much do you think you'd be able to make in Brazil? The U.S. has been very good to you, otherwise you wouldn't be there.
Turning tricks in Copacabana nets a pittance compared to your take over there.
Keep a stiff upper lip chap(ped)
written by Simpleton, August 23, 2007
"My beautiful brown Carioca has . . .""

There's been a bit of tarnishing me thinks. Used to be bronze not brown. Glad beautiful is still applicable.
With the move, lack of private pool complete with pool boy and gardener to monitor and now her mother being dumped back to the homeland sitter there's no doubt been a bit of stress.

Anyway, do have someone check out the tucyoutours offer and let us know what you think. I was thinking this might be okay for my pescadora friend next spring but we're waiting for what the free physician has to say re: a health issue. May not be able to wait til next year.
they did come by boat
written by FORREST ALLEN BROWN, August 23, 2007
the rich came and also did there slaves .
the king came with his court , and his slaves .
all came to find El Dorado most left after there was no gold or fast riches
but they sold there slaves
but for all its worth they were beter off in brasil it just took a few hundred years to get free

now to get free you buy a visa and head to the US ,over stay your and complain when you get deported
marry and gringo get a boob job and become a striper
and the por mans way walk ride a buss beg

if they would only come by the proper way they could stay , it takes a bit longer but you are a citisen of the US
and when someone calls the US the evil country you can say i am a brasilian , or you shouls say
this is my country now if you dont like it leave
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written by Ana P., August 24, 2007
LOL turning tricks in Copacabana... I have nothing against people that do and if I did it I would be making a hell of a lot of $$$ too. I am in the US because of hubby
he cannot speak Portuguese and can't find a job back home. He is waiting for his retirement so we can leave this the US.
I have never overstay my visa, I came legally from the beginning. And who said I got a boob job here? And who say you need one to be a stripper?
I got one because of me, I had big boobs before my son and they deflated after his birth and I want to fill them back to where they were before. One side of my family is
Italian and they all have huge tits. I was a DD since I was 13 years old.
My dad's family immigrate to Brazil and they worked on the coffee plantations and raised a family and they were very happy in Brazil. Happiness have nothing to do with money.
My mom and dad would never leave Brazil for any money in the world since they would feel out of place.
Brazil is my home and my country and will always be. I am a temporarily resident of the US without any ties to this country. It is kind of a jail sentence I have to serve but I know
that after I will be free and be able to go back home. I never feel like home here since people are unfriendly and cold and I will never be an "American" even if I have a
citizenship since American only stands for what they consider a white person.But I will always be a Brazilian...
"Entre outra mil es tu Brasil, O patria amada"
http://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/Constituicao/hino.htm
All
written by Ric, August 24, 2007
Of your Italian relatives have huge tits, or just the women? Interesting....
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written by Ana P., August 24, 2007
The women of course. We all have small butts and big tits. Some of the women in my family are all DD . I had bigger boobs than most grown women at age 11. I was a C cup
then then my biggest was a 15 when I was almost a DDD. I weigh only 100lbs at 5'2 by the way. I don't have an ass so I am very atypical Brazilian girl. I guess that is why
I married an American since foreigners really like my body type. After birth my boobs were like an flat tire so I just have them fill out to the original size, no difference for me.
They much more light and don't hurt my back since saline weighs less than natural breast tissue.
NO YOU WILL BE A BRASILIAN BECAUSE
written by FORREST ALLEN BROWN, August 24, 2007
you cant acept the responsiblity of becoming a US citisen

it is a grate guift that the people of the US give to people that want to be more than what they were

you like many want the gravy here but dont want to pay the price so many others have done

so be proud of what you are a no ass big tited brasilian woman serving time in the vile US as we feed and cloth you teach your child .
keep him safe , and fed ,
under our laws you live free with out to much fear of the police wanting a bribe from you ,
your boss demanding sex favors for you to work , getting paid a fare wage . having good hospitals to go to .
laws to protect you and you and yours
serve your time and get back to
ratopia you love and sing the brasilian national athem fi you know it all
chere for the soccor team , and try not to remember the money you made here while you have brasilian men at your titi bars in rio or sa paulo if you herry we all can see you work at bannas
before it goes the way of the lula and his court
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written by bo, August 24, 2007
Brazil is my home and my country and will always be. I am a temporarily resident of the US without any ties to this country.



Ahhh, the type of immigrant that made america great!


After birth my boobs were like an flat tire so I just have them fill out to the original size, no difference for me.
They much more light and don't hurt my back since saline weighs less than natural breast tissue.


I've also heard it weighs much less than brain tissue. Might think about relieving some of that pressure while you're at it.
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written by Ana P., August 24, 2007
What are you talking about, Bo? Put down that pipe because now you are talking crazy. Having big boobs will affect your inteligence. Only a crazy person would say that.
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written by bo, August 25, 2007
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written by Ana P., 2007-08-24 16:07:37

Put down that pipe because now you are talking crazy. Having big boobs will affect your inteligence.



Might look into
written by Ric, August 25, 2007
The new hollow, helium filled breast transplants that really perk you up, A.P.
Forrest
written by Shelly, August 26, 2007
you cant acept the responsiblity of becoming a US citisen /////// YES, I rather travel with my green poop colored passport and I know I will be safe anywhere I go in the world. I don't want to be held responsible for the killings of innocent people!!!

it is a grate guift that the people of the US give to people that want to be more than what they were/// Like what, empty cans?

you like many want the gravy here but dont want to pay the price so many others have done //// I work and pay taxes, don't feel that I have to suck up to anyone.

so be proud of what you are a no ass big tited brasilian woman serving time in the vile US as we feed and cloth you teach your child ./// Go to LA American, to my pool bimbo's rule the streets here, darling!
keep him safe , and fed ,

under our laws you live free with out to much fear of the police wanting a bribe from you , //// Free? You guys aren't free, can you go to Cuba? Freedom is what you preach and since Bus**t took power you have less freedom.
your boss demanding sex favors for you to work , getting paid a fare wage . having good hospitals to go to . //// Good hospitals, only if you can afford, right? See Michael Moore's documentary, you make me laugh, sex favors, humm Clinton anyone? I guess you forgot about the senators involved with the prostitute in D.C. YOU like to portray to the world that you are a high moral holding nation, when in truth you are the opposite. No nation, dear, holds that beacon of light!!! You have corruption in your police, not as bad as we have in Brazil, read the Black Dahlia and you will see why the crime, as many others at that time didn't get solved...
laws to protect you and you and yours//// give idiots as hund gun, a baton and there you have it, a pack of animals. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEAu0N3GaV8 and just search under police violence and you will see the violence. WE IN BRAZIL HAVE A violent police, more than here, still here is no El Dorado...
serve your time and get back to
ratopia you love and sing the brasilian national athem fi you know it all
chere for the soccor team , and try not to remember the money you made here while you have brasilian men at your titi bars in rio or sa paulo if you herry we all can see you work at bannas
before it goes the way of the lula and his court/// Couldn't make any sense of this part...
Hose
written by Ric, August 26, 2007
Like to talk about their physical assets, more than any other subject.

But with time the Texas A&M Reality sets in: Saggy, Baggy, Craggy, Faggy, Naggy and Raggy. With what they valued most gone, they get Really Bitter.

Ready or not, Here It Comes.
Ana P.
written by Shelly, August 26, 2007
Retire here, live and live in Brazil, most couples will do just that once they see their portfolios gone bonkers. A retiree in the future won't have the same lifestyle that most people enjoy today. Many are finding hard to keep a roof over their heads...sounds familiar, don't you agree?

Keep the war in Iraq going on, billions of taxpayers money going down the drain, thousands of innocent people dead...all for what?

New Orleans
written by Shelly, August 27, 2007
I am watching a program on History Channel about the hurricane Katrina, I guess the El Dorado in America are for the rich and the white middle class...
National Geographic
written by Shelly, August 27, 2007
Sorry, it is National Geographic. Bush looks like an idiot, he says "FEMA is doing a heck of a job..."
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written by Ric, August 27, 2007
Maybe the real idiots are those who chose to live in an area below sea level. Nobaody forced them to stay there. How smart do you have to be to see that living in New Orleans is not viable in the long run?
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written by bo, August 28, 2007
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written by Ric, 2007-08-26 21:22:04
Maybe the real idiots are those who chose to live in an area below sea level.


Had to be a white southerner that built new orleans. Who else would build a city 12 feet below sea level and fill it with negros? smilies/shocked.gif
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written by Ric, August 28, 2007
I choose not to comment on that one, Bo.
Comment
written by Rem, September 03, 2007
I think overall, Brazilians cause a LOT LESS problems in the U.S.A. than Illegal Mexicans. Illegal Mexicans have free-reign in the U.S. and monopolize everything to themselves.
Many Brazilians who come to the U.S. actually have degrees (unlike their Mexican counterparts) and end up being good people in their communities. The only Brazilians who tend
to cause problems are 2nd generation mal-adjusted teens who suffer from identity crisis and many end up joining stupid Mexican gangs to find their identities.

Overall, Brazilians have done a lot of good for the U.S. and most have a lot of fun living here. There are beaches, resorts, fun of all kinds and usually, Brazilians immigrants legal or not
tend to have a much better lifestyle here than they would in Brazil. Now, upper middle class and rich Brazilians are a bit different. They usually have a better life in Brazil than here and they
wouldn't be caught dead doing ordinary service jobs. They don't need to.
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Illegals in The U.S.A Statistics
written by Rem, September 03, 2007

For information on illegal immigrants living the U.S.A. visit this resource: http://videodaily.info/illegal-immigrants/

You will be shocked.
MYTHS
written by Waldir, September 05, 2007
I entered the US. 35 years ago legally with a green card in hand from Brazil and have been naturalized long ago. Some one here said that the it is mandatory to have a health care program in the US, otherwise an illegal is screwed. First of all, who told them to come ilegally? Secondly, while theoretically there is free healthcare in Brazil, the system has been in shambles for as long as I can remember. Constant strikes, poor conditions, even when there are no strikes. Only the top Brazilian well-to-do can afford a private plan. Just try to use the public hospitals in Brazil in case something happens to you while you are there! Better pre arrange a travel insurance plan with health provider from your country of origin or bring some extra Dollars or Euros to directly check-in to a private hospital! There are many Brazilians who have been taken good care in American hospitals when serious surgeries were needed and paid next to nothing afterwards, simply by claiming inability to pay. Quality medical care that no public Brazilian hospital would provide to their nationals. Now, the ''El Dorado'' myth: Over the years, I found that some Brazilians who go back to their homeland with a fist full of Dollars, love to rub it in telling fantastic stories to family and friends, so to impress them to look good. In turn, some folks will believe the accounts and do everything to come to the US. only to find out that most of the stories were not true. Most Brazilians who stay in the US. illegally ARE NOT well schooled. I could go on and on but what for? I know Brazil and the Brazilian expatriates well.
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written by Waldir, September 05, 2007
By the way, Newark NJ and the surrounding region is the largest Brazilian immigrant community in the US but talked about little.
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written by Waldir, September 05, 2007
FORREST tries to compare US politics and corruption with the Brazilians. How ludicrous! If the Americans knew how corrupt Brazilians politicians are, the American conterparts will look like saints! Also, I am tired of hearing Brazilians talk about how beautiful their national anthem is and how it sounds, as well as their soccer and so on. What does it do here? Why don't they clean up their own house by removing anglicisms in the Portuguese language spoken in Brazil as well as stopping all the American music in their radio stations in their country? I tell, you... no personality! Also Brazilian technology is so backwards. The aircraft maker Embraer is nothing but an assembly line because all their airplanes are developed in Japan, Europe and US. All the Brazilian television sets, cell phones and other electronics run on foreign made electronic circuitry. That says it all. No wonder the median yearly pay in Brazil does not raise above U$3,400.00!!! It needs to pay for all that imported technology. Have I talked about their botched aerospace program? You don't want to know! Unless you want to have a good laugh.
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