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Brazil Is Too Good of a Target to Be Without the A-Bomb PDF Print E-mail
Written by Bill Van Auken   
Sunday, 25 November 2007 20:14

São Paulo aircraft carrier Brazil should develop the technological capacity to manufacture nuclear weapons, one of the country's top generals declared in a television interview earlier this month. The remark was delivered in the context of a turn by the Workers Party government of President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva towards a dramatic increase in military spending.

The hike is an effort to build back up the country's armed forces, which have been severely discredited since the end of the military dictatorship more than two decades ago.

"If the government agrees, we need to have the ability in the future to develop a nuclear weapon," said General José Benedito de Barros Moreira, one of Brazil's few four-star generals and a former head of the country's War College.

Barros Moreira, who is presently a senior official in Brazil's Ministry of Defense, in charge of formulating the country's military strategy, compared the weapon to a "lock" needed to safeguard Brazil's resources.

The startling comment came in a roundtable discussion on the program Expressão Nacional broadcast Tuesday night by TV Câmara, the network run by Brazil's congress. The general appeared together with two congressional deputies, Jose Genoíno of the Workers Party and Raul Jungmann of the Popular Socialist Party, as well as Antonio Jorge Ramalho da Rocha, of the National University of Brazil's Institute of International Relations.

"We should be technologically prepared to produce a nuclear device," said the general. He added, "No country can feel safe if it doesn't develop technology that enables it to defend itself when necessary."

Barros Moreira said that Brazil's resources made it a "target" for foreign aggression. "The world lacks water, energy, food and minerals," he said. "Brazil is rich in all of these. For this reason we must put a strong lock on our door."

Significantly, the two legislators both found themselves largely in agreement with the general. Genoíno, an anti-government guerrilla under the military dictatorship, rose to the presidency of the Workers Party (PT), and became one of the central figures in a political bribe and kickback scandal that led the country's attorney general to declare him a leader of a criminal organization.

He spoke in terms of Brazil's need to have armed forces to "match its economic and political projection in the world" and to support "the projection of power in the world and region."

Jungmann, an ex-member of the Stalinist Brazilian Communist Party who has faced his own charges of embezzlement of public funds while he served as agrarian reform minister under the government of President Fernando Cardoso, talked about Brazil becoming a "global player" - using the English phrase - and the need to attend to the "viability of our armed forces."

Both legislators lamented the financial neglect of the armed forces, with Genoino railing indignantly against the "poverty wages" paid to generals and admirals.

Neither they, nor anyone else on the program, bothered to mention that the reduction of appropriations for the Brazilian military was bound up with the overwhelming popular repudiation of an institution responsible for the murder, torture and imprisonment of tens of thousands Brazilian workers, peasants, students and political oppositionists, including some whom the two deputies presumably once regarded as their comrades.

The subject of the television round table discussion was the move by the Lula government to fulfill the Defense Ministry's request for a 50 percent hike in arms spending for the coming year, raising military appropriations from their current level of US$ 3.5 billion to well over US$ 5 billion. It is widely anticipated that the government will revive plans that were shelved in 2002 to purchase new fighter jets and to develop a nuclear submarine.

While the Defense Ministry and the Lula government have officially denied any connection, the discussion of the proposed military buildup in Brazil's right-wing media has focused on a supposed challenge posed by the multi-million-dollar arms purchases made by the Venezuelan government of President Hugo Chavez from Russia, including 100,000 Kalashnikov rifles and fighter planes.

Two days after the general's televised remarks, Brazil's Defense Minister, Nelson Jobim, spoke at a military conference in Rio de Janeiro in support of building a nuclear submarine, claiming that such a weapons system was needed to defend recently discovered off-shore oil reserves.

"When you have a large natural source of wealth discovered in the Atlantic, it's obvious you need the means to protect it," Jobim said.

The Brazilian military had sought the development of a nuclear submarine during the period of the dictatorship, which ruled the country from 1964 to 1985. During the period in which he had emerged as a national figure for his leading role in a series of massive metalworkers strikes in defiance of military rule, Lula had denounced the proposed submarine program as a diversion of resources that were needed to meet the country's vast social needs.

Now, as president, he has emerged as a champion of realizing the Brazilian military's old dream. Last July, Lula announced the appropriation of US$ 540 million to fund the navy's nuclear enrichment program, the first installment of what is expected to be more than US$ 1.2 billion for the building of a nuclear submarine.

"Brazil could rank among those few nations in the world with a command of uranium enrichment technology, and I think we will be more highly valued as a nation - as the power we wish to be," he said at the time.

In his speech, Defense Minister Jobim insisted that Brazil's uranium enrichment program would be used solely for the submarine program and dismissed the idea that it would be utilized for the production of a nuclear weapon. "That's total nonsense," he said, while making no reference to the proposal made by General Barros Moreira expressing the exact opposite viewpoint.

The more perceptive voices in the Brazilian media, however, treated the general's opinions as anything but "nonsense." Folha de S. Paulo political columnist Jânio de Freitas, for example, wrote that in his remarks Barros Moreira "went much further, in objectivity and clarity, than Jobim. He went, strictly speaking, to the very end: he spoke of the necessity of Brazil mastering the entire cycle of nuclear energy, which includes, more than the submarine, nuclear explosive devices."

"How far attending to this alleged necessity has already proceeded is almost a mystery, as is normal for military projects," continued Freitas, who noted that the Brazilian navy had long ago assembled qualified personnel and equipment to begin nuclear enrichment.

The columnist noted that the Lula government has enjoyed the complicity of the Bush administration in concealing the extent and nature of its nuclear program. Washington, he reports, "managed to get the International Atomic Energy Agency to pretend to be satisfied with verbal explanations, after being blocked when it tried to inspect the characteristics, and thereby deduce the possible aims, of the Brazilian installations for uranium enrichment."

He noted that the US attitude toward nuclear developments in Brazil is precisely the opposite of that taken toward similar developments in Iran, where the government has submitted to extensive inspections.

There is no doubt that Washington has tilted strongly towards Brasília, promoting the Lula government as a counterweight to the influence exerted by the left-nationalism of Venezuela's Chavez on the continent. Lula has encouraged this alignment, both with the deployment of the Brazilian military as "peacekeepers" in Haiti - freeing up US Marines for the occupation of Iraq - and in the recent ethanol treaty with Bush.

In conclusion, Freitas wrote: "The motive for the change being introduced in Brazil is obscure, but it is already known that the dimensions of its effects, internal and external, can only be great and grave."

Brazil is not building up its military - and potentially pursuing nuclear weapons - because of some perceived threat from Venezuela. If anything, the political demonization of Chavez and Venezuela's recent arms deals have merely been employed by the Brazilian military and its backers as a useful pretext for promoting rearmament.

Nor, obviously, is there any groundswell of popular support for increased military spending, much less a nuclear arms program. The one political figure most identified with supporting a Brazilian bomb - the recently deceased right-wing nationalist deputy and former presidential candidate Enéas Carneiro of the Party for the Reconstruction of the National Order (PRONA) - was turned into an object of public ridicule over the proposal.

Nonetheless, there are profound objective forces underlying the drive by Brazil's ruling circles to pursue renewed military power, including nuclear weapons. The international arena is characterized by the increasingly sharp and open conflicts between the rival capitalist nation states over the control of resources and markets.

This process has found its most acute expression in the eruption of American militarism, as Washington seeks to exploit its military superiority to offset its relative economic decline, launching two wars of aggression for control of energy-rich regions in the course of the last seven years.

General Moreira Barros's warnings about Brazil becoming a "target" for potential wars over increasingly scarce sources of energy, water and food reflects the emerging reality of a build-up towards a new period of worldwide conflagration. At the same time, the Brazilian ruling elite has its own increasing regional and global profit interests, and is prepared to utilize military force to further them.

While, no doubt, the Workers Party government will promote militarism and a revived nuclear program with the politics of nationalism, these developments pose an ominous threat to the Brazilian working class.

As a result, it will confront growing attacks on its living standards, the increasing power of a military that relinquished its dictatorial grip over the country little more than two decades ago and the prospect of being dragged into a catastrophic world war.

The article appeared originally in http://www.wsws.org.

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I agree 100 percent with General José Benedito de Barros Moreira
written by Ricardo Amaral, November 26, 2007
I have been writing about that subject for many years.

There is no 2 ways about it - Brazil need nuclear weapons to defend the country in the coming years.

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Brazil - We Need the Bomb.
written by Ricardo Amaral, November 26, 2007
Here are some of my articles about Brazil and Nuclear Weapons:

May 2002 – “We Need the Bomb – Part I”

http://www.brazzil.com/content/view/2575/38/


February 2003 – “We Need the Bomb – Part II”

http://www.brazzil.com/content/view/2186/27/


June 2003 – “Food for Nukes the Answer for Brazil”

http://brazzil.com/p104jun03.htm


Note: Thousands and thousands of people around the world it did read my articles regarding Brazil and nuclear weapons.

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Brazilians are not smart enough to build nuclear weapons.
written by Ricardo Amaral, November 26, 2007
I want to mention the most common comment from people regarding this subject - Basically that was the feedback that I got from my articles.

Most people say that Brazilians don't have the technical capabilities to build nuclear weapons - if Brazil had such a capability Brazil would have built a nuclear weapon many years ago.

Basically most people think that Brazil does not have the nuclear weapons because Brazilians are not smart enough to build one.

Brazil it does not look good when even starving North Korea is armed with nuclear weapons.
Pakistan also is armed with nuclear weapons - and the Pakistani economy it is nothing to write home about.

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Here is what the rest of the world believe about Brazil.
written by Ricardo Amaral, November 26, 2007
I understand that Brazil is never going to be taken seriously by the other leaders of the world – Brazil it will be a second tier kind of country – Brazil will stay among the countries that are supposed to be just colonies of somebody else.

The other countries around the world knows that Brazil it does not have a single Nobel Prize and to this day the Nobel Prize committee still has not created a Nobel Prize for the best soccer player in the world – until then….

Since Brazilians don’t have the brain power to build a nuclear weapon it will be necessary to import the brain power from other countries such as North Koreans, Pakistanis, South Africans and so on…

Brazil – the land of zero Nobel Prize winners and zero nuclear weapons.

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List of defense expending by country.
written by Ricardo Amaral, November 26, 2007
Here is a list of defense expending by country

Rank Country Military expenditures (USD) Date of information

World Total 1,200,000,000,000 2007 (projected est.)
NATO Total 849,875,309,000
1 United States 553,000,000,000 2007
European Union Total 300,745,000,000
2 United Kingdom 69,800,000,000 2007
3 France 65,370,000,000 2007
4 Germany 52,100,000,000 2007
5 Japan 49,100,000,000 2007
6 People's Republic of China 45,000,000,000 2007 (official figures)
7 Russia 32,400,000,000 2007
8 Italy 32,093,537,000 2006 (est.)
9 Saudi Arabia 31,255,000,000 2007
10 South Korea 26,050,000,000 2005
11 Australia 22,000,000,000 2007
12 India 21,330,000,000 2007
13 Canada 16,900,000,000 2007
14 Spain 15,792,207,000 2006
15 Turkey 15,166,000,000 2007
16 Netherlands 10,800,000,000 2007 (est.)
17 Brazil 9,940,000,000 2005
18 Israel 9,444,000,000 2005
19 Republic of China 8,900,000,000 2007
20 Greece 7,648,561,000 2006 (est.)
21 Poland 7,262,500,000 2007
22 Singapore 7,053,000,000 2007
23 Sweden 6,309,137,714 2007
24 Iran 6,300,000,000 2005
25 Mexico 6,070,000,000 2006
26 Norway 5,725,000,000 2007
27 Chile 5,193,000,000 2007
28 North Korea 5,000,000,000 2005
29 Pakistan 4,800,000,000 2006


Source:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ ...enditu res
Brazil's defense spending it is a joke when compared with the other major countries of the world.
written by Ricardo Amaral, November 26, 2007
Brazil defense spending was less than US$ 10 billion dollars in 2005, but still an amount larger than the combined defense budget of North Korea and Pakistan.

If North Korea and Pakistan - both countries with half the defense budget of the Brazilian government are able to build nuclear weapons - the conclusion has to be that Brazil does not have the know how to build the A bomb.

When it comes to defense spending Brazil is in the same league as countries such as Greece, Singapore and Poland.

Brazil still in the bow and arrow stage of defense when compared with the big boys. In terms of defense spending today Brazil is not even in the second tier of countries.

Brazil's biggest show of military strength is happening in Haiti - a country with 80 percent unemployment and where most people can't afford even a pair of shoes.

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What about the treaties ?
written by John Miller, November 26, 2007
Hello,
Does anyone know a 4 star general who does not want an A Bomb? You dont think there is a small self-interest in a general having an A-Bomb?

Let me also remind you of a few other points here. Brasil, along with New Zealand and Australia, led an alliance to bad NUCLEAR WEAPONS production in the Southern Hemisphere. This not only helped in the change of South Africa, but also directly led to France's discontinuation of atomic weapons testing in the South Pacific. To this day, the treaty is strictly enforced and as such NUCLEAR WEAPONS production is confined to the Northern Hemisphere.
Just imagine then that Brasil does declare that is going to develop an atomic weapon. Put aside the fact that they would have to test the weapont somewhere on brasilian soil (how about in the amazon?, gees, like yeah, real good idea), then you would then have to say that Argentina and Venezuela would also have the right to production of a nuclear weapons. Now does anyone seriously want a Prozac addicted President Chavez with his finger on the trigger of a nuclear weapon? God forbid.
REAL COURAGE AND LEADERSHIP from Brasil can be shown by standing up and saying "Brasil will not take this route to nuclear weapons excalation." Look to Brasil's historical strength in diplomacy where it's world recognized as having one of the strongest diplomatic corps in the world.
Finally, a word on the threat's posed to Brasil, because it has great mineral, agricultural and geographic wealth. Is an atomic bomb really going to secure this wealth? I think not. When you see the threats and where they come from, you would clearly see that defending Brasil's interests is best served with diplomacy, trade, alliances, treaties, and a strong ground and well trained base of troops supported by conventional military forces and infrastructure.

SAY NO TO NUCLEAR WEAPONS, SAY YES TO STRENGTHENING DIPLOMACY.







Hey Amaral
written by jakob, November 26, 2007
Ever heard of "Live by the sword, die by the sword"?
It's not that "Brazilians are not smart enough to build one", as you say. My point is, Brazilians SO FAR HAVE SHOWN MUCH MORE SENSE THAN ANY COUNTRY IN THE NORTH HEMISPHERE by not having the bomb!
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written by AES, November 26, 2007
This process has found its most acute expression in the eruption of American militarism, as Washington seeks to exploit its military superiority to offset its relative economic decline, launching two wars of aggression for control of energy-rich regions in the course of the last seven years.


I would disagree with the motivation as expressed above; though ancellary consequences are a geopolitical hegemony of oil. More importantly is the perceived military consequences as forcasted 20 years out. To this future end present events are enacted. It is my contention that all of this ends with the disarmament of Iran's nuclear weapons development. The recent release of pictures and diagrams of the nuclear weapon belies the Iranian contention that for the past ten years it has been merely doing theorehtical nuclear research. Intelligence certainly has been aware of all that Iran has been engaged in from the Kobar towers, to the bombing of Embassys. Iran has had a grand military plan for nearly two decades. It is in my estimation that Iraq and Afghanistan are flanking movements in a final deneument with Iran.


General Moreira Barros's warnings about Brazil becoming a "target" for potential wars over increasingly scarce sources of energy, water and food reflects the emerging reality of a build-up towards a new period of worldwide conflagration. At the same time, the Brazilian ruling elite has its own increasing regional and global profit interests, and is prepared to utilize military force to further them.

Barros's warning is a self evident reading of history. It is the 'way of the world'. The world unfortunately only understands power. The recent rise of Bovespa, export and capital reserves in addition to the wealth of agriculture minierals all must be defended. Even the Bank of England employs armed guards. It would be wise for Brazil to hone a military edge, indeed to acquire a sword upon which to hone a military edge. Brazil has a need to invest in radar, runways, roads. Without roads you cannot move supplies. Brazil is in need of a less theoretical nuclear arsenal and a more pragmatic arsenal of surface to air missiles, telemetry, large troop and supply transporting helecopters, tactical helecopters, tactical jets, aerial born communication platforms, an army of light tanks and armored military transports. Having acquired the hardware the development of a conscribed highly trained citizen army must be established. An army whose 2 year conscription is from all strata of society. A military that trains for future professions as well as defense. A nation of such great wealth as Brazil is a nation worth plundering, either sublely or blatently. Both the lion and the lamb have merit, but it is the fangs and claws of the lion that give pause for reflection.

Nuclear weaponry gives pause to no one, it is a useless weapon in South America. The purpose of nuclear submarines was to allow the submarine to remained submerged for months at a time while it transited the globe. Brazil has no interest in transiting the globe. Brazil's navel enemies are much closer at hand. Brazil, however would do well to acquire state of the art cruisers or Harrier jet platforms. What Brazil needs is what it needs now; and what Brazil needs now is on the shelf and available in the world arms markets.

Brazil has a fear of the military born out of history. But the times have changed. Brazil though still opaque has become nearly 'transparent'; its economy subject to global norms. A credible army conscripted 'of the people', of Brazil is a geopolitical necessity. It acts as a deterent to internal meddeling by external forces. It also provides an educational entity for the country at large providing a transitioning institution from adolescents to responsible, productive citizen.

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written by David Mendoza, November 26, 2007
I think not having nuclear weapons gives the country a moral superiority.

If Brazil got nuclear weapons, then other South American countries would think they have to do the same. With so many poor people to help, why start a regional arms race?
no one needs an A bomb
written by FORREST ALLEN BROWN, November 26, 2007
how would they deliver the bomb ???
& too whom

brasil is in a place where its grates thret is too itself
dont be a target , and you wont have to spend billions of reals trying to defend a country that does not have the money to do so

make buddies out of good people and use you buddies to help stop the bad ones
no one needs an A bomb
written by João da Silva, November 26, 2007
how would they deliver the bomb ???


By land

& too whom


To Chavez and Cristina

brasil is in a place where its grates thret is too itself
dont be a target , and you wont have to spend billions of reals trying to defend a country that does not have the money to do so


Anyone going to listen to you? As for the money, no problem. They can always come out with a temporary tax like CPMF and call it CPBA!

make buddies out of good people and use you buddies to help stop the bad ones


A good advice,but pay attention to this stretch of the article:

At the same time, the Brazilian ruling elite has its own increasing regional and global profit interests, and is prepared to utilize military force to further them.


So nobody is going to listen to you, however good your intentions are smilies/angry.gif
Forrest makes a good point
written by Madision Reynolds, November 26, 2007
The US built the interstate hiway system in the fifites and sixties to be able to transport weapons across the country as every overpass was high enough for the missile carreirs could pass underneath. Can't imagine transporting any major weapons on Brazilian hiways.
Ricardo Amaral/Shelly
written by João da Silva, November 26, 2007
What do you think about the article in the link ?:

http://www.estadao.com.br/esta...5543,0.php

I can already imagine Shelly´s opinion smilies/wink.gif
use its military on its own people
written by Forest Brown, November 27, 2007
brasil best bet is like i said before .
long range cruse missel system GPS guided truck or small plane lanch or buy boat running up the amazon you could pick off chaves from over the jungle
and would not even need to getr yopur boats out in salt water
and from the quality of brasilian navel officers you would not loose them to surender of sell them to chaves
of corse the senators will want them to stand buy to protect there beach houses and use them a a possible way for themselves to escape to portgual.
did any one see chaves saying he is putting his talks with columbia in the deepfrezz

i have a bunch of people at NASA you want intel pic of chaves land with GPS overlay going cheep
start out with 9 lat long numbers but can be made to be a lot closer for the right price
Brazil and Argentina for that matter could build nuclear weapons very quickly
written by Ricardo Amaral, November 27, 2007
Jakob: It's not that "Brazilians are not smart enough to build one", as you say. My point is, Brazilians SO FAR HAVE SHOWN MUCH MORE SENSE THAN ANY COUNTRY IN THE NORTH HEMISPHERE by not having the bomb!


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Ricardo: That is not my opinion as I mentioned on my posting – that was the general feedback that I got from a lot of people when I wrote the articles about Brazil and the A Bomb.

A lot of people told me if Brazil had the know-how then Brazil would have built an arsenal of nuclear weapons. If anything that indicates that your country has reached a new level of technological advance.

I know that Brazil and Argentina for that matter can build nuclear weapons very quickly if these countries decide to build these weapons.

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Brazil has two choices regarding Nuclear Weapons.
written by Ricardo Amaral, November 27, 2007
John Miller: What about the treaties ?


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Ricardo: First, treaties are made to be broken after its utility run its course and they are not set in stone.

The United States like to bring up the subject of treaties when it is convenient to the position that the US is taking about any subject. But as soon as international treaties are in the way of something that the US is doing then at that point the US does not the treaties that they signed or they just quit it and disregard these treaties.

Regarding the opinion of the United States about a lot of things around the world including nuclear weapons - very soon that will carry as much weight as the opinion of the Soviet Union.

Even the US dollar has reached the limits of its usefulness and very soon the world it will need a new international financial system with the US dollar playing only a marginal role.

Today the US economy it is like the Titanic and we are almost to the point of hitting the iceberg.

Basically the party is over for the United States – and nobody could deny that the United States had a good run in the last 100 years.

In a few years the United States will be just a marginal player in world affairs such as the Soviet Union, and the British Empire – and today these changes come at the speed of light.

Without nuclear weapons Brazil would be showing - REAL COURAGE AND LEADERSHIP – like General Armstrong Custer.

And we know what happened to his courage and leadership.

But REAL COURAGE AND LEADERSHIP would be to develop an arsenal of nuclear weapons to protect the future generations of Brazilians.

Brazil is finally becoming that country of the future – but without the nuclear arsenal that future is going to elude Brazil one more time.

Brazil has two choices:

1) Don’t develop nuclear weapons – accept its position of just being a 3rd tier country – and then Brazil should shut up and let the big boys set all the guidelines of what Brazil can and can’t do. Just follow the orders of the elite countries and once on a while they might even through a bone in Brazil’s way and invite Brazil to some meaningless meetings just to give Brazil the illusion that let are listening what Brazil has to say.

2) Brazil develops and build a nuclear weapons arsenal – takes its place at the table with the elite countries of the world – Brazil becomes the master of its own destiny and that country of the future that has eluded Brazil so many times in the past.


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Brazil should be prepared for the future and not for the past.
written by Ricardo Amaral, November 27, 2007
AES: Nuclear weaponry gives pause to no one, it is a useless weapon in South America. The purpose of nuclear submarines was to allow the submarine to remained submerged for months at a time while it transited the globe. Brazil has no interest in transiting the globe. Brazil's navel enemies are much closer at hand. Brazil, however would do well to acquire state of the art cruisers or Harrier jet platforms. What Brazil needs is what it needs now; and what Brazil needs now is on the shelf and available in the world arms markets.


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Ricardo: Nuclear weapons gives no pause for no one – just ask the North Koreans….

AES sounds like he wants Brazil to fight the last war like the US is doing today.

I want Brazil to be prepared for the future and not for the past.


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Reminder: about North Korea, Serbia and Iraq.
written by Ricardo Amaral, November 27, 2007
David Mendoza: I think not having nuclear weapons gives the country a moral superiority.


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Ricardo: The Serbs also thought that – and they also thought that if there country was going to be attacked by a foreign power the Soviet Union would come and protect them from such an attack.

The United States destroyed the entire infrastructure of Serbia – and at the same time the Soviets did rollover and played dead.

What good it does to a country for not having nuclear weapons to be able to defend itself - the moral superiority it does not help much when the entire country has been flatten like a pancake.

North Korea has nuclear weapons – and the US did not have the guts to attack that country.

Serbia did not have nuclear weapons just like Iraq and just look at both countries what happened to both of them.

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Technology of tomorrow and not yesterday's.
written by Ricardo Amaral, November 27, 2007
Forrest Allen Brown: how would they deliver the bomb ???


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Ricardo: From space!!!!!!!!!!!

I am talking about a war of the future not about the past.

Brazil would launch such a weapon from space with tomorrow’s technology.


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Brazil should prepare itself to fight the war of tomorrow
written by Ricardo Amaral, November 27, 2007
Madision Reynolds: The US built the interstate hiway system in the fifites and sixties to be able to transport weapons across the country as every overpass was high enough for the missile carreirs could pass underneath. Can't imagine transporting any major weapons on Brazilian hiways.


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Ricardo: I hate to say that but you guys have the mindset of fighting the last war.

I am talking about Brazil leapfrogging not only nuclear weapons technology into the future, but I am also suggesting that Brazil should develop a space technology of the future which would be able to deliver such a weapon in case of need.

I am not suggesting that Brazil should follow the footsteps of the US and the Soviet Union during the cold war.

Brazil should prepare itself to fight the war of tomorrow.


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Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo Amaral, November 27, 2007
That would have worked on the past, but not today with the internet.

Brazilians also have the choice to go and study in Europe and the United States.


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Ricardo Amaral: Technology of tomorrow and not yesterday's. How about the technology of today, Buck Rogers?
written by AES, November 27, 2007

AES sounds like he wants Brazil to fight the last war like the US is doing today.

Oh contraire monsieur. AES sounds like he wants Brazil to be able to intelligently defend itself from any probable military eventuality, as opposed to defending itself from a fantastical military eventuality. Brazil does not have the capacity to defend itself from any military eventuality.




Why North Korea and Pakistan can and Brazil can't?
written by Ricardo Amaral, November 27, 2007
As much as I think that the United States defense spending is a big waste of money – When a country is wasting over US$ 500 billion per year. There are better things that the United States could be doing with a large chunk of that money such as investing in infrastructure.

On the other hand there is such a thing as under invest in Defense spending – and that is the case with Brazil. Defense spending in Brazil it is a joke when compared with the other major countries of the world.

Brazil should be investing on its defense at the same level of such countries as Italy and Russia and Saudi Arabia.

And developing nuclear weapons can be done very easily without breaking the bank in Brazil.

Just keep in mind North Korea with an annual Defense budget of US$ 5 billion and Pakistan with an annual Defense budget of US$ 5 billion – both countries were able to build nuclear weapons with an annual defense budget half of the current defense budget of Brazil.



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Brazil military in need of new weapons - report
Reuters - Mon Nov 26, 2007

SAO PAULO, Nov 26 (Reuters) - Brazil's armed forces, the largest military in Latin America, are badly equipped, demoralized over pay and stuffed with generals, according to a report by news magazine Veja.

The forces are facing their worst crisis because the government has failed to make them a priority and to realize the role they should play in national affairs, political scientist Geraldo Cavagnari of Campinas State University is quoted as saying in the leading Brazilian weekly.

"Brazil has celebrated 22 years of democracy after 21 years of dictatorships. Now the military is attracting the country's attention with a rare intensity," says the report in Veja's latest issue.

Soldiers are fed up with outdated weaponry such as 30-year-old rifles and Korean War-era tanks, it says. Some 88 percent of the air force's planes are more than 15 years old.

Of the navy's 21 warships, only 10 are in operation. Just two of its five submarines are in service. Low salaries and lack of funding also are major complaints, according to the magazine.

With 290,000 men and women, Brazil's military is the 15th largest in the world. But ranked by the number of personnel per head of population, it is eighth in the Americas, behind neighbors such as Venezuela.

However, there is a high ratio of generals to other troops, Veja says.

The magazine says the military's main concerns are defending the Amazon, containing Brazil's leftist neighbors and maintaining its ability to protect the country's maritime territory.

In a poll carried out for Veja by CNT/Sensus, 82 percent of military personnel surveyed and 72 percent of civilians said the Amazon region risks being occupied by a foreign power.

Some 88 percent of civilians, compared with 53 percent of the military, said the army should fight drug traffickers and other criminals operating in cities such as Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo, according to the poll.


Source: http://www.reuters.com/article...SN26384758


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Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, November 27, 2007
Ricardo: From space!!!!!!!!!!!

I am talking about a war of the future not about the past.

Brazil would launch such a weapon from space with tomorrow’s technology.


On WHOM will Brazil will launch a nuclear weapon from space? Who are our potential future enemies-distant ones or neighbors?

Brazilians also have the choice to go and study in Europe and the United States.


Not all can afford to do it.The majority that remains here gets brain washed with trash like the way the article described.
Brazil should prepare itself to fight the war of tomorrow.
written by John Miller, November 27, 2007
Hi Ricardo,
Instead of preparing to fight the war of tomorrow, how about fighting for peace TODAY! There are a few people and countries out there still that want peace, not war believe it or not.
You would condone spending billions on nuclear weapons, and leave the poor of Brasil destitute, then the country will self implode from within, and then what are the nukes going to be good for? You cant feed and educate people with nukes Ricardo.
Just out of curiousity, did you get any inspiration for your thinking from the Peter Sellers character in"Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb"?

Hey, but by all means, spread more fear and hatred by all means. Thats how G W Bush got the USA into a war, works a treat with a lot of people. But it does ring as a little irresponsible, and perhaps people are getting a little tired ( or smarter) about people playing the "fear and hatred" card, and know better.

Come on people now, smile on your brother, everybody get together, and try to love one another right now .



"Brazil has been smarter by NOT having a nuclear bomb"
written by ch.c., November 27, 2007
smarter by not being able to build one...doesnt make you smarter by any means, but just the opposite.
Sorry !
Even in nuclear plants for energy, Brazil is lagging.
Tell me how many emerging countries have lower nuclear plants per 10 millions capita !!!!
Certainly not many, and NONE when compared to a similar GDP per capita.

Same for your overall defense budget : do it on a per capita basis, and you will probably be behind many sub saharan countries !

And to invade Brazil is very easy. Just put napalm bombs (even ethanol bombs would do fine) and you will have the Guiness Book of records for the world largest BBQ !

And to Forrest : what are the origin of the long range missiles and GPS you are talking about? American, Chinese, Russian or from Israel ????
Does Brazil have Brazilians long range missiles...yet ? Not to my knowledge !
But Brazil already had a bomb exploding in the country ! Probably coming from a hidden laboratory. Just look at the huge crater in SP :
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6386835.stm

And the commander in chief of the hidden underground laboratory, Luiz Carlos David, wrote in his resignation letter :
" "a symbol of the efficiency of public administration" which had "great challenges ahead of it".
Furthermore :
Mr David's resignation came after it emerged that studies carried out by the underground network itself had cast doubt on the quality of the concrete used in the construction works, Brazilian media reported. "

Stupid question : is that the type of construction you want to do in the wealthy Arab countries ???????

Laugh....laugh....laugh !




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written by ch.c., November 27, 2007
And tell your smart generals and smart defense minister and engineers :
puting fuel tanks at the end of a landing strip.....IS VERY DANGEROUS !
Did they now know that ? Nooooooooo !
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I don't agree
written by jakob, November 27, 2007
Amaral, nuclear weapons are "icing on the cake", and Brazil can't afford to have the icing on its cake yet.

Any highly developed nation that went through many stages of development, CAN afford to develop the bomb, because all the infrastructure (scientific, technological, economical, political..) is already in place. For example the old USSR had all the stages EXCEPT economical, and look what happened - the armaments race broke it financially, and later on broke it in every other respect.

I am sorry but Brazil still hasn't passed through a sufficient number of development stages ... If we consider EU or USA or UK to be currently on stage 10, Brazil is currently on stage 3 of development... IMHO Brazil can start thinking about building the bomb at stage 7 or 8, say.

This has nothing to do with intelligence (or lack of) of its citizens... but merely with the fact that Brazil still is in many respect a highly undeveloped country. IF Brazil starts making the bomb, it will break her even more.
To the "smart" Ricardo.....
written by ch.c., November 27, 2007
Just re-read what you wrote in your various above comments/answers/agreements/disagreements....and may be you could see a few of your own contradictions.
I dont see a few...but many !
Have a line of common sense, and not many that disagree with others of your own.....disagreements !
Do you even know what you are talking about ?
Do you even know what your opinion his ? Just re-read...YOUUUUUU...... and the answer is " of course not "

You are getting lost....in your own comments...through your many many contradictions !


Anyway....enjoy your drowning!

Ohhhh....are you not the one who wrote in your FIRST article that China should INVEST US$ 20 billions in Brazilian nuclear plants.
Sorry for you but not 1 country in the world....so far......has ever invested money to build a nuclear plant in a foreign country !
Laugh....laugh....laugh..... ! Nuclear plants are paid by the countries where they are built..... ....NOT by foreign investments which is quite different. But if you have an example.....please name it ! Laugh....laugh...laugh !!!!!!
Ohhhhhh smart Ricardo....and dont you think that China in terrible needs of energy, will invest their money in their "OWN " Nuclear Plants,
and built by developed nations companies ...before even puting ONE centavo in ONE foreign nuclear plant ?

Yessssss Ricardo...the junkie....... not so smart after all !
If you want to know a few things about China Nuclear Plants here a re a few :
- Mainland China has eleven nuclear power reactors in commercial operation, five under construction, and several more about to start construction.
- Additional reactors are planned, including some of the world's most advanced, to give a fivefold increase in nuclear capacity to 40 GWe by 2020 and then a further three to fourfold increase to 120-160 GWe by 2030.
- The country aims to become self-sufficient in reactor design and construction, as well as other aspects of the fuel cycle.
- Electricity demand is growing very rapidly.
- Mainland China is starting to rely heavily on imported uranium to fuel its nuclear power program.

And please Ricardo the Gogo, read again : The country aims to become self-sufficient in reactor design and construction which means they are not yet and will never be for the latest generation plants.
Eventually you could sell them some uranium since Brazil pretends to have the world best uranium enrichment process !!!!!
I repeat....Brazil pretends !!!!!! Brazil always pretends but never ever prove what they pretend !
Typically Brazilian style.
Telecom Engineer
written by Lloyd Cata, November 27, 2007
Many people do not know that Brazil's nuclear program is more than 30 years old and has developed peacefully
albeit under the auspices of US sponsorship. That sponsorship is only granted on the conditions set in Washington.
Note: Washington recently floated a plan to roll-back Brazil's enrichment capability. The idea being that the nuclear
club of the East and West would provide their 'client states' with fuel for energy reactors. I.e., Russia would supply
Iran with fuel and the US/Western consortium would provide Brazil, Israel, and others. Thankfully, Brazil rejected this
attempt to infringe on its sovereignty.
While it may not be necessary, at this time, for Brazil to have nuclear weapons, the nuclear submarine and other
technologies are perfectly within its right to develop. Nuclear weapons are, in fact, defensive in nature, and then only
to prevent 'certain other nuclear powers' from historical practices, including economic subjugation. As is clearly seen
by the Bush Iraq fiasco, a strong, well equipped national forces are better suited to national defense. Projection of power
is a totally different subject which is not particularly suited to the Brazilian society. It has yet to be determined whether the
Brazilian expedition in Haiti will be successful as anything other than a stand-in for US and French interests in the continued
subjugation of the first free state in the Americas. Brazil could do better, and 'people of color' are watching.
Brazil's role as a leader in the 'non-aligned movement' has been clear for many decades now. It would be a shame for Brazil
to now join the Club of Greedy Thieves as a prerequisite for joining the technologically rich and spiritually bankrupt Empire.
My 2 Cents
written by costinha, November 27, 2007
It’s easy for you (typical american) to say that….. No “nuke” when you have enough of it to destroy the earth.

Since when did the almighty give the “United States” supreme power of Judging and Executing his will????

Just like you tell us about destroying our Amazon forest from the BIGGEST polluter in history (the USA).

However, I must say that I completed agree with peace and preservation of our environment but not form a point of weakness but one of strength. Thank God for Russia and now China for some degree of equilibrium. Otherwise, the US has and will continue to abuse and impose onto other nations of the world.

Good Day…
Costinha
written by AES, November 27, 2007
It’s easy for you (typical american) to say that….. No “nuke” when you have enough of it to destroy the earth.

By all means, please develope nuclear weapons. Spend trillions of dollars developing it as well as a delivery system. And when you finish you will still be 40 years behind the state of nuclear physics and space science. The only people that are newly interested in arming themselves with nuclear weapons are those that are considering using them. Such vitriole in the expression of the paucity of nuclear cupboard, of the current state of your nuclear arsenel is laughably Freudian. The greatest of power is economic power. Japan is an example of a nation, thriving, economicly powerful sans nuclear bomb. It is self evidently a more intelligent model for Brazil, than Russia, China, India, Pakistan or the U.S.

Since when did the almighty give the “United States” supreme power of Judging and Executing his will????

Since 911.
Nuclear weapons development cost billions and not trillions.
written by Ricardo Amaral, November 27, 2007
AES: “By all means, please develop nuclear weapons. Spend trillions of dollars developing it as well as a delivery system. And when you finish you will still be 40 years behind the state of nuclear physics and space science.

The greatest of power is economic power. Japan is an example of a nation, thriving, economically powerful sans nuclear bomb. It is self evidently a more intelligent model for Brazil, than Russia, China, India, Pakistan or the U.S.”


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Ricardo: You said: “By all means, please develop nuclear weapons. Spend trillions of dollars developing it as well as a delivery system.”

Trillions of US$ dollars like North Korea and Pakistan did in the last few years?

Since the defense budget of each of these countries is around US$ 5 billion per year – there is something wrong here with your figures and estimates of the price to develop nuclear weapons.

If it takes trillions of US dollars to develop nuclear weapons and the delivery technology – then why the United States is so upset with the nuclear technology program of Iran?
Iran’s annual Defense expenditures are only around US$ 7 billion dollars.

There are 2 countries that don’t have nuclear weapons – Japan and Germany – but these 2 countries could build these weapons in a matter of months if they wanted nuclear weapons since they have the money, and the technology.

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AES - The Ugly American Strikes Again…
written by costinha, November 27, 2007
Don’t you love stereotyping?

Consider your statements:
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“And when you finish you will still be 40 years behind the state of nuclear physics and space science. “
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Typical american air of superiority…

I can see you know nothing of science. Mathematics or Physics is the same & concurrent anywhere on earth… I can’t say your Calculus is 40 years old nor your Physics is also 40 years old compared to mine… Nonsense!

Now, in space technology perhaps… But you know what, it doesn’t matter because a nuclear bomb is a nuclear bomb, despite its delivery system.

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”Since when did the almighty give the “United States” supreme power of Judging and Executing his will????

Since 911.”
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So you think… 911 was the collateral damage that the US suffered after nearly a century of antagonizing & aggression of just about every country in the world, good luck Sherlock!

The entire world has awaken… The US will not fool us again!

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written by John Miller, November 27, 2007
Ev'rybody's talking about
Bagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism, Ragism, Tagism
This-ism, that-ism
Isn't it the most
All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is give peace a chance

Ev'rybody's talking about
Ministers, Sinisters, Banisters and canisters,
Bishops and Fishops and Rabbis and Pop eyes,
And bye bye, bye byes.
All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is give peace a chance

Let me tell you now
Ev'rybody's talking about
Revolution, Evolution, Mastication, Flagelolation, Regulations.
Integrations, Meditations, United Nations, Congratulations
All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is give peace a chance

Oh Let's stick to it
Ev'rybody's talking about
A bomb, N bomb, H Bomb, bong bong.
Every general & politicians want a bomb,
They will be tough, strong & dumb,
But they left my country destitute & ostrasized like North Kprea & Pakistan,
And now my neighbours North and South of me have more nukes than me..
All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is give peace a chance
The art of war is the art of deception
written by A Brazilian, November 27, 2007
Basically most people think that Brazil does not have the nuclear weapons because Brazilians are not smart enough to build one.


And I think this is good. Let them think this way. We must develop it, but we don't need to go around publicizing it unless it makes some strategical sense. Being underestimated is good, it means that they don't expect much from you and therefore you have the surprise factor.
Costinha: Noun 1. stereotype - a conventional or formulaic conception or image
written by AES, November 27, 2007
Slow down Watson. The U.S. has been doing nuclear science and rocketry for some 60 years. The 40 years reference had to when the U.S. science landed on the moon.

Now, in space technology perhaps… But you know what, it doesn’t matter because a nuclear bomb is a nuclear bomb, despite its delivery system.

Well Watson if it were as simple as you suggest the Iranians would after 10 years of R&D have a nuclear weapon. How long does it take to build a cascading facility and the centrifuges necessary for enrichment? Then there is the testing.


So you think… 911 was the collateral damage that the US suffered after nearly a century of antagonizing & aggression of just about every country in the world, good luck Sherlock!

Elementary my dear Watson. 911 was the tipping point.

”Since when did the almighty give the “United States” supreme power of Judging and Executing his will????

What do you know about 'God's will? Do you suppose to know God's will that you know what is not God's will?

The entire world has awaken… The US will not fool us again!

Who is 'us' Watson? The entire world? The 'entire world' to use a phrase is at the American Consulate in Rio de Janeiro trying to get a green card or at worst a visa of anykind.

Your opinion is self agrandizing. It is a poor psychological attempt at compensating for a seemingly general feeling of inadequacy. If you can prove the U.S. to be wrong it validates you, empowers you. In your calculus if you are able to denegrate the U.S. you somehow are effected. However, extant from anything you will still be whoever you are. Nothing will change, you will still be as important and powerful as you are. ' Mathematics or Physics is the same & concurrent anywhere on earth' and so are you my dear Watson. It is as elementary as deductive reasoning.

'Don’t you love stereotyping?' You should know all the meanings of a word before attempting to demonstrate erudition in using it mockingly.

Refer to def 2 under noun.
Refer to def 3 under transitive verb.

ster·e·o·type (str--tp, stîr-)
n.
1. A conventional, formulaic, and oversimplified conception, opinion, or image.
2. One that is regarded as embodying or conforming to a set image or type.
3. Printing A metal printing plate cast from a matrix molded from a raised printing surface, such as type.
tr.v. ster·e·o·typed, ster·e·o·typ·ing, ster·e·o·types
1. To make a stereotype of.
2. To characterize by a stereotype: "Elderly Americans are the neglected sector of the fashion industry, stereotyped by blue hair and polyester pantsuits" American Demographics.
3. To give a fixed, unvarying form to.
4. To print from a stereotype.

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AES: English -1. stereotype- a conventional or formulaic conception or image
written by costinha, November 27, 2007
Uau…. Sherlock knows how to Cut & Paste

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Definition Direct from Webster:

Main Entry:
1ste·reo·type
Pronunciation:
ˈster-ē-ə-ˌtīp, ˈstir-
Function:
transitive verb
Date: 1804

1: to make a stereotype from
2 a: to repeat without variation : make hackneyed b: to develop a mental stereotype about

— ste·reo·typ·er noun
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Your verbosity is exceeded only by your stupidity… American stereotype –
BIG Mouth And Narrow Mind and Foremost, Unilingual Stupid People!

AES… You're so cool, God gave you an extra chromosome! Hehehehe

You're a moron. It's your legacy. Deal with it.
Reply to a Brazilian
written by Ricardo Amaral, November 27, 2007
A Brazilian: “And I think this is good. Let them think this way. We must develop it, but we don't need to go around publicizing it unless it makes some strategical sense. Being underestimated is good, it means that they don't expect much from you and therefore you have the surprise factor.”



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Ricardo Amaral: Let me clarify something here for the people who did not have the chance to read my articles about Brazil and nuclear weapons.

If you took the time to read my articles then you would know that I believe that the Brazilians can develop and build nuclear weapons. If I thought that the Brazilians were not capable of developing and building such a technology then I would not have wasted my time writing the articles.

I guess people say things such as “Basically most people think that Brazil does not have the nuclear weapons because Brazilians are not smart enough to build one.” And many other variations of the same idea just to piss me off since I was the author of the articles.

Since most people did not want Brazil to build nuclear weapons then they say that Brazilians don’t have the know-how and the brain power to build such a technology.

I know Brazil and Argentina could build nuclear weapons in no time if their governments decided to do it.

I agree 100 percent with General José Benedito de Barros Moreira on this subject – and I know that Brazil has the technical capability to do it.

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written by João da Silva, November 27, 2007
Many people do not know that Brazil's nuclear program is more than 30 years old and has developed peacefully


Unfortunately, this is the truth and even the author of the article is unaware of it. Who started it was the visionary President Geisel. The military government in the 70´s determined that Brasil should be self sufficient in energy. That was the reason for creating Ethanol as alternative fuel and the Nuclear program was indeed to build Nuclear Power stations and not to build bombs. I don't agree with the statement that the Brasilians are incapable of building Nuclear power stations or bombs, though to have Nukes or a Nuclear Submarine is just waste of Tax payer´s money. I believe that Nuclear energy has to be used for peaceful purposes.

What intrigued me about this article is that a couple of lefties who always opposed Geisel and Figueiredo (nothing that the military did was acceptable to them) had to resort to the help of a General to say that we need to concentrate on developing Nuclear Technology. If you really read the main stream media in Brasil, you would discover that the General was not talking about Nuclear Bombs, but to resuscitate the research about Nuclear Technology.

Of course, once we build our own reactors or bombs or submarines, the lefties will claim that the results were due to their relentles efforts to promote "Science" . Probably Jugmann or Genoíno would love to be the Minister of Science and Technology, thus giving them a political rebirth.The biggest laugh I had was when our fearless Minister of Defense declared that Brasil needed a Nuclear Submarine to defend our newly found oil reserve!

BTW, who was responsible for turning our Armed Forces into a laughing stock? Just think.
Costinha: Vous êtes vraiment imbecilic un sage d'idiot un homme pour toutes les saisons d'irationality.
written by AES, November 27, 2007
A stereotype has an original, the original plate from which all copies follow. The argument that stereotypes have no validity is without merit. Your argument that stereotyping precludes validity is typically sophmoric. It denies that a stereotype may or may not have validity. In any case all stereotypes descend from an original proposition the merits of which may or may not have credibility. Merely because a thing is stereotypical does not negate its validity.
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written by Lars, November 27, 2007
Why dont you solve the problems of endemic poverty, illiteracy, favelas, corruption, crime, infrastructure. Why dont you solve these problems before you set to solving the problems of building an atomic bomb. Jesus Christ get your priorities straight. Nobody is thinking that Brazilians do not have the intelligence to build an atomic weapon. Brazil's Embraer builds some of the finest aircraft in the world. Brazil is certainly technically capable of doing anything it collectively sets its mind to.
little bugs kill better and leave the buildings
written by Forest Brown, November 27, 2007
no lets just pot mark the globe with A bomb holes

yes to US has moved in on many a fight after we were hit not before
or we saw an injustices being done and europ was doing nothing

the serbs and croats for one the though of killing off some one for skin color or a beleaf

OH hitler , stalin , serbs , north korea , north vetnam .
all killed off people fro a belif.

and now ben ladin , sadam ,
another 2 trying to kill off the in pure the nonchosen
and if they beat the US who do you think they will go after next
and you have 1000 living in your country now and they breed like rats
and will push there way of life on the poor and stupid of your country


and then brasil could be like packstan and have its top nuke person
sell off tis information to any one with cash

NO A BRASILIAN SELLING OFF SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT BELONG TO THEM
Silly child . . .
written by JR, November 27, 2007
My 2 Cents
written by costinha, 2007-11-27 11:17:46

It’s easy for you (typical american) to say that….. No “nuke” when you have enough of it to destroy the earth.

Since when did the almighty give the “United States” supreme power of Judging and Executing his will????

Just like you tell us about destroying our Amazon forest from the BIGGEST polluter in history (the USA).

However, I must say that I completed agree with peace and preservation of our environment but not form a point of weakness but one of strength. Thank God for Russia and now China for some degree of equilibrium. Otherwise, the US has and will continue to abuse and impose onto other nations of the world.

Good Day…

God help you my child. You've been cursed with a pea brain and an ignorance just profound enough to be dangerous. Good luck to you.
AES: Parles-vous Francais… Tete de pine?
written by costinha, November 27, 2007
T'est qu'une sale pute qui se met des godes et du poulet dans le cul. Tapes-toi une queue et va niquer ta mère espèce de connard qui se lèche le cul chaque matin en fumant des gauloises pour le petit-déj'

Hehehehe…

Sprechen Sie Deutsch… Blödes arschloch?

Deine mutter hat haarige arschbacken. Geh Einhandsegeln, und Geh' und krabbel in das stinkende Loch zurück, aus dem Du kommst!


Besa mis huevos...gringo pendejo......Hehehehe
Who Shot JR????
written by costinha, November 27, 2007
You are obnoxious in every odious detail. Live with it without bitterness. Do the human race a favor: never breed, we don't need any more Ugly americans on this earth.

America Is A Melting Pot, The People At The Bottom Get Burned While All The Scum Floats To The Top!


Hehehehe
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written by Tommy, November 27, 2007
I was just reading about nukes in Scientific American yesterday, and what struck me is that the only remotely safe place in the world, nuclear war speaking, is South America. Brasil would be non-agressors and hopefully a place where people would actually survive a worldwide nuclear holocaust. Please don't give up your blessings.
Costinha: Merci. Your multi lingual banality is exceeded only by the state of your emotional adolescence.
written by Lars, November 28, 2007
Dans un concours de l'esprit vous ne feriez pas à moitié mauvais. Comme nous disons en français, 'vas te fair foutre'. Mais merci de la manifestation linguistique de votre manque obious de toutes les graces sociales.

To be ignorant in so many languages gives hope for those of us who are merely ignorant in one.
Lard Ass… Do you speak fluent dyslexic?
written by costinha, November 28, 2007
I'd like to see things from your point of view but I can't seem to get my head that far up my ass! Now then, I refuse to enter into a battle of wits with you - its against my moral code to attack an gimpzoid spazboy.

Yet another Ugly american idiot suffering from diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the ideas. Go associate with your own species.

Yours Truly
Reply to Cn.c
written by Ricardo Amaral, November 28, 2007
Ch.c wrote: Ohhhh....are you not the one who wrote in your FIRST article that China should INVEST US$ 20 billions in Brazilian nuclear plants.
Sorry for you but not 1 country in the world....so far......has ever invested money to build a nuclear plant in a foreign country !
Laugh....laugh....laugh..... ! Nuclear plants are paid by the countries where they are built..... ....NOT by foreign investments which is quite different. But if you have an example.....please name it ! Laugh....laugh...laugh !!!!!!


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Ricardo: Based on your comments I can see that you still have not grasped the essence of my 4-part article about China investing US$ 200 billion in Brazil. The sad part is that thre were almost 800 comments following the 4-part articles discussing almost every angle or doubt that the readers had about the articles.

And after all of that you still don’t understand the essence of what was discussed.

It is not a case for ah,ah,ah – The reality is that: it is a real sad story since I thought that you had finally grasped that subject.

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I learn something new every day.
written by Ricardo Amaral, November 28, 2007
Jakob wrote: Any highly developed nation that went through many stages of development, CAN afford to develop the bomb, because all the infrastructure (scientific, technological, economical, political..) is already in place. For example the old USSR had all the stages EXCEPT economical, and look what happened - the armaments race broke it financially, and later on broke it in every other respect.

I am sorry but Brazil still hasn't passed through a sufficient number of development stages ... If we consider EU or USA or UK to be currently on stage 10, Brazil is currently on stage 3 of development... IMHO Brazil can start thinking about building the bomb at stage 7 or 8, say.

This has nothing to do with intelligence (or lack of) of its citizens... but merely with the fact that Brazil still is in many respect a highly undeveloped country. IF Brazil starts making the bomb, it will break her even more.”


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Ricardo: If I got your theory right and understand what you are trying to say – then Pakistan and starving North Korea are countries considered on your scale of economic development to be category 7 or 8 – very advanced economies. (Mainly when compared with the Brazilian economy.)

And poor Brazil is a category 3 and in the same category with countries such as Somalia, Zimbabwe, Sudan and other very under developed countries.

The only thing I have to say to you is that your theory it is brilliant and I wonder how you came up with your conclusions.

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The almighty that puts fear in the soul of every American
written by Ricardo Amaral, November 28, 2007
AES: “Since when did the almighty give the “United States” supreme power of Judging and Executing his will????

Since 911.”


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Ricardo: By Almighty are you referring to the fellow who put the United States on its knees?

The fellow who put so much fear in the soul of Americans resulting into a society that can’t even thinks straight?

Are you referring to Osama Bin Ladden?

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Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo Amaral, November 28, 2007
Joao da Silva: On WHOM will Brazil will launch a nuclear weapon from space? Who are our potential future enemies-distant ones or neighbors?


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Ricardo: I don’t know.

You can’t rule out any country. Remember Japan attacked the United States in 1941.
Could anybody on his right mind predict such an event?

The United States was budy, budy with the government of Saddam Hussein during the years that Iraq was fighting a very nasty war against Iran.

Then the United States turned around and just look at Iraq today.

Venezuela and the US used to be friends and look at them today.

You never know what tomorrow it will bring on your direction and you have to be prepared to handle any possible event.

By the way, the Chinese are developing their defense systems to fight the war of tomorrow which include having an arsenal of nuclear weapons in space ready to be used against any enemy if necessary.


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Brazilians and the Prey Mentality.
written by Ricardo Amaral, November 28, 2007
There are a lot of people who say who would attack Brazil today or in the future?

But most people don’t know world history much less Brazilian history. I would not be surprised to find out that more than 50 percent of the Brazilian population does not know that there were 3 foreign invasions against Brazil.

The French invaded Brazil twice – once in the North of Brazil and another time in the area around Rio de Janeiro. And the Dutch invaded the area around Recife and Olinda in Pernambuco – and took 24 years for the Brazilians to throw them out and defeat them.

In the 21st Century the biggest conflicts that we will have around the world it will not be about oil, religion, or political ideologies – the biggest conflict in the world it will be about freshwater resources.

Brazil is the King of freshwater resources in the world – and only if Brazilians are complete idiots they don’t realize that they will need to build nuclear weapons to keep the wolfs away.

In some of the above postings some people said that Brazil should do this and that to take care of the poor population in Brazil – but that is a strategy with no end in sight and an utopia since that goal would never be reached in a million years.

You can read the reasons why on my article published in 2000 about overpopulation.
You read it at:

July 2000 – “Overpopulated”

http://www.brazzil.com/content/view/6963/73/


Some of the other people said that Brazil should stick with diplomacy – but that is not the way the world works because of human nature and men’s instincts as a predator.

The people who are against Brazil building nuclear weapons are the people who have the instinct of being the prey instead of the predator.

Usually the prey is the one who is killed and eaten by the predators.

In reality today Brazil is very vulnerable to a foreign invasion – if that ever happened and the invader decided to throw a soccer tournament in Brazil at that time then everybody would concentrate on the soccer tournament instead of the foreign invaders.

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Ricardo: 'f**k you and the horse you road in on'
written by aes, November 28, 2007
What the f**k are you talking about? Why dont you get the f**k out of the United States you f**king subversive motherf**ker? You are a downer, a propagandist. You think you know what you are talking about but you are dead wrong. Your hatred for the United States is pathological. Why dont you do the U.S. a favor and leave if you have such contempt for it? You are a hypocrite, a user, a taker. Your theories on the geopolitical universe are as meaningless as Costin