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Brazil and the United States Go to War over a Little Boy PDF Print E-mail
2009 - January 2009
Written by Seth Kugel   
Friday, 27 March 2009 02:12

Epoca Magazine with Sean Here's where the American and Brazilian media concur: 1) In 2004, four-year-old Sean Goldman, a Brazilian-American boy from New Jersey, was taken on vacation by his mother to her native Rio de Janeiro, and never came back.

2) A U.S. court ruled the case an abduction and ordered his immediate return to his American father, which the mother ignored. A Brazilian court granted the mother custody, which the father, David Goldman, found outrageous. She re-married and then, last year, died giving birth to her second child.

3) Sean, who will turn nine in May, now lives with his stepfather, João Paulo Lins e Silva, his baby half-sister, and his maternal grandparents. The Brazilian family is doing everything in its power to keep him there. Sean's American father, who recently saw his son for the first time in four years, is doing everything in his power to win him back.

Beyond that, the story is being covered like a military conflict, with some reporters on both sides treating those on the other side as incomprensible enemies.

In the U.S., the case is portrayed as a clear-cut case of kidnapping. "Son Abducted By Mom to Brazil," read an on-screen graphic on CNN. Americans have watched Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Goldman's congressman, Chris Smith, essentially call it an open and shut case, a clear violation of the Hague Convention on Civil Aspects of International Child Abduction. The House of Representatives unanimously approved a resolution pressing Brazil to return Sean.

Prompted by the American coverage, the Brazilian press began covering the story and the Lins e Silva family - who had scored consecutive victories regarding custody of Sean in Brazilian courts - scrambled to come up with a media strategy to avoid "becoming a punching bag," as João Paulo Lins e Silva would later tell O Globo. Starting this month, they granted interviews sparingly but strategically, to generally positive results for their side.

Mark DeAngelis, a representative of the Goldman family, thinks it's clear why the American coverage and Brazilian coverage have been so different. "The American media looks at this story and says, 'here's a case of parental-child abduction, a black and white case of a mother illegally retaining the child in a foreign country,'" he said. "They do ask for the other side of the story, but it tends to backfire. There's usually two sides, but in this case there isn't another side."

Brazilians, who like most Latin Americans are sensitive to any whiff of U.S. intervention into their affairs, have been less willing to automatically identify the American as hero and the Brazilian as victim. Many have expressed disgust that the American father is exposing his son's image so widely on the Internet.

The Brazilian family's new lawyer, Sergio Tostes, sees it differently from DeAngelis. Fluent in English and with a masters degree from Harvard Law School, Tostes is the only member of the stepfather's team to have spoken extensively to the American press, including the television program Dateline. "What you have here is a difference of mentality," he told GlobalPost. "You have to understand, people think differently in each place."

Like many Brazilians, Tostes is convinced that because the child has adapted to life here and appears to be in a loving home, it is in his best interest to stay.

He also thinks Americans discount foreign justice systems, which has led them to believe a family of powerful lawyers like the Lins e Silvas can manipulate the results. (To be fair, many Brazilians believe this as well.) "It is one of the American cliches that the judiciaries of all other countries are simply corrupt and are not responsible," he said. "They think Brazil is just like Nigeria. They think Brazil is just like Venezuela. Not true."

In the U.S., Americans have heard that the Brazilian courts, manipulated by the evil stepfather's high society family of lawyers specialized in international family law - oh, the irony - granted the mother custody.

They believe that Goldman visited Brazil many times, hoping to see Sean but stymied by legal documents the Brazilian family required him to sign as a precondition. And that when Sean's mother died, the courts had Goldman's name removed from the child's birth certificate.

And they've gotten to know Sean's father as a loving dad who has longed for his son. They've seen adorable video clips of him teaching the toddler dance steps and playing with him in the pool.

If the American media has not adequately explained the Brazilian side of the case, it has a good defense: The Lins e Silva family has for the most part not granted interviews.

Unlike Americans, Brazilians initially heard little about the case after the mother's death in August.

Under Brazilian law, cases involving minors fall into what is called "secrecy of justice." Folha de S. Paulo, the country's highest circulation newspaper, was the first major media outlet to break the story on Sept. 16, 2008 - but it did so in a piece rendered toothless by not mentioning names.

O Estado de S. Paulo and O Globo, the country's other top newspapers, wrote nothing until late February, when the storm of American coverage and the Goldman family's website - BringSeanHome.org - ended any hope of secrecy about the dispute.

After Folha published the first story, a court order prevented the newspaper from writing anything further, according to Carlos Eduardo Lins da Silva, the ombudsman for Folha de S. Paulo (and no relation to the stepfather). "The judicial system is now the hand of censorship in Brazil," Lins da Silva said. (Top Folha editors did not return requests for comment.)

Probably the most visible print story in Brazil about the case has been the March 9 cover of Época magazine, which portrayed Sean as a loving boy with a close family: Sean is passionate about his half-sister, clings to his grandmother, calls his stepfather "dad" and wants to be a lawyer (and practice the Brazilian martial art capoeira) just like him. "It is evident to anyone who passes a day in the house that he feels protected, but not spoiled," the reporter wrote.

The first time Sean's father is mentioned, it is for creating "an international circus with Sean's face and images of his past printed on the Internet by the biological father, the ex-model David Goldman, who today is a partner in a boat business that organizes cruises." The story is followed by a much shorter telephone interview with Goldman.

Márcio Chaer, editor of Consultor Jurídico, an online Brazilian legal publication that has followed the case and actually published the first known story about it in June 2007 (also with no names) said the Época report was "in no way balanced, was not correct, was not honest."

Época's managing editor, Hélio Gurovitz, said via email that Época gave space to both sides. "Nobody, up to our cover story, had heard the Brazilian family's version of the events," he wrote. "Nobody knew how Sean lived ... If our story has one clear side, that's the side of the kid - and of other children in the same situation."

It's unclear whether an end is in sight.

Tostes, the lawyer for the Brazilian side, recently said that the matter had spun out of control, and that a negotiated solution would be the best way out.

"Everybody, especially the biological father, is not considering the interest of the kid," said Tostes, a colorful character who in an hour-long interview showed several times that he has mastered English curse words. He also said he had proposed a meeting between the father and stepfather and their respective lawyers, with a mediator present. The mediator, he said, could be American.

Tostes said he was willing to listen to Goldman's best argument that Sean should live in the United States. "Maybe he would convince me," he said, not very convincingly.

For his part, DeAngelis (the Goldman family representative) said he was unaware of the offer to negotiate, and that the family would await the upcoming decision on the case in Brazilian federal court. He said he expected one of three outcomes: Goldman is granted custody and Sean returns to New Jersey while appeals are pending, Goldman is granted custody but Sean stays in Brazil pending the appeals process, or custody is awarded to João Paulo Lins e Silva.

Still, Tostes is headed to the New York area next week on a business trip. He confirmed he will be there to work on the case, although he would not be any more specific. On the off-chance that a meeting is planned, and on the very off-chance that an out-of-court resolution is reached, the families would accomplish what their respective countries' media have not: being on the same page.

This article appeared originally in GlobalPost under the headline "The Elian Gonzalez of Brazil." You can read more news and commentary on Brazil and the world at their website: www.globalpost.com



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Brazil....
written by bo, March 27, 2009
Safe haven for brazilian parental kidnappers. Is that what Brazilians want their country known for?

Now, how does one think this affects the millions of brazilians living in other countries that have children?

Does anyone sane person believe that a foreigner married to a brazilian with child would ever allow that child to visit brazil before the age of 18?

Who's fault is that?
how is the carne de sol up there in sergipe , bo ?
written by asp, March 27, 2009
...man , carne de sol , black eyed peas, rice...that is some good eating.

ive had some incredible carne de sol in pernambuco and natal

this case again ? id just like to wait for what the courts decide...same for the battisti case
""Everybody, especially the biological father, is not considering the interest of the kid,"
written by ch.c., March 27, 2009
What about this idiot judge ?

Since when education, healthcare, housing is better in Brazil than in the USA ?

"They think Brazil is just like Nigeria. They think Brazil is just like Venezuela. Not true."
Correct ! IT IS WORSE IN MANY RESPECTS !

The hypocricy of Brazil and the Lins family
written by Chris2, March 27, 2009
http://oglobo.globo.com/blogs/...1709&a=569

Here's Daddy Lins e Silva, on camera, DEFENDING the Hague Convention. Classic Brazilian hypocrisy. Another noteworthy addition to the saga exclude in this hatchet job of journalism is that Joao Paulo has also successfully used the convention in other custody cases he worked.

About the only thing in this article correct was:

"What you have here is a difference of mentality," he told GlobalPost. "You have to understand, people think differently in each place."


Oh how true, and how tragic for those ever having to deal with Brazilians.
The carne do sol is great....
written by bo, March 27, 2009
when you can get it!! You see ASP, right now, we can't get carne do sol, because everyone that works and makes a minimum wage or slighly more can't get to work! Why? Because the bus drivers are on strike. Along with the doctors, teachers, and soon to be military policeman!!

Imagine, education, healthcare, and public security.....ON STRIKE!!!


So, that's what one is relegated to here.....grabbing a bottle of pinga and staying drunk the best one knows how! smilies/cheesy.gif
ohhh man , too bad , bo...
written by asp, March 27, 2009
i hate it when that happens .....
this shows two things
written by Forrest Allen Brown, March 27, 2009
the real reason nothing was reported was they thought they could keep it quiet till they needed the masses and like Tostes said brasilians
think different than people from brasil

1 does not matter what brasil agrees to on paper or by word contract .
fi you are a gringo you get no rights in brasil

2 the US has piss poor government that will send a cuban kid back to his father in a hart beat , but will not place brasil on the do not do business or visit list

thanks a bunch you nut less bastards in the US congress and state department .
...
written by bo, March 27, 2009
ohhh man , too bad , bo...
written by asp, March 27, 2009
i hate it when that happens .....



yeah, have to say I've never experienced something like this until I moved to Brazil! smilies/wink.gif
...
written by bo, March 27, 2009
Tostes, the lawyer for the Brazilian side, recently said that the matter had spun out of control, and that a negotiated solution would be the best way out.



Of course he did...that's what the side that knows it's going to lose...and lose big, normally says.
asp
written by João da Silva, March 28, 2009
this case again ? id just like to wait for what the courts decide...same for the battisti case


De acordo.
Wait for the courts to decide?
written by bo, March 28, 2009
Why would anyone want to wait until what the courts decide in a country that has shown, time after time after time, that they simply don't uphold the very law they have sworn to. That they hear these type cases in family courts WHEN THIS IS TOTALLY ILLEGAL!!

People in brazil will start to scream when binational brazilians that were born in brazil are taken out of Brazil without the brazilian parents authorization and the countries to which they're taken by the foreign parent will not send them back because Brazil will no longer be a member of the Hague due to disrespect and unenforcement. Let's see exactly how Brazil will react when the shoe is on the other foot?
JEWISH CONTROILED NEWS MEDIA IN AMERICA
written by JAY GLENN, March 28, 2009
JEWISH CONTROILED NEWS MEDIA IN AMERICA.

Anyone think if this kid was Arab, American Indian or Hispanic, we would be hearing about this.

Just what America needs another Jew?
A little late for negotiations!
written by ipb, March 29, 2009
If the Brazilian family had been negotiating with the Real Father, David Goldman, in the past four years, this situation would never have spun out of control as Tostes states. It is a little late to start thinking about negotiating.
Jay and Iob
written by ch.c., March 29, 2009
Jay......unfortunately you are RIGHT ! smilies/wink.gif

Iob......the problem is not a 4 years old problem, but a ONE YEAR OLD PROBLEM...SINCE THE MOM DIED !
Sean will stay in Brasil where he belongs...
written by ........., March 30, 2009
The only family and home Sean has ever known. Mr. David is using Sean to have the last word, even though, Bruna is deceased.

Costa

PS:Bob(ão), shut your BIG BOCA!
so if they win there is no APPEALS ( BRASIL )
written by Forrest Allen Brown, March 30, 2009
So this could work out very bad for brasilians later down the road as
brasilian men or women would never be granted the right to take tere kids back to brasil even with there fathers or mothers present as the papers could be filed in brasil and the courts not allow the child to leave

For his part, DeAngelis (the Goldman family representative) said he was unaware of the offer to negotiate, and that the family would await the upcoming decision on the case in Brazilian federal court. He said he expected one of three outcomes: Goldman is granted custody and Sean returns to New Jersey while appeals are pending, Goldman is granted custody but Sean stays in Brazil pending the appeals process, or custody is awarded to João Paulo Lins e Silva
...
written by Captain Kirk, March 30, 2009
The Lins e Silva family are trashy, hypocritical scum. The father of Sean's captor has been seen on tape vehemently defending the Hague convention. Typical. Now of course, it's irrelevant. You know what it's like in Brazil, "for my friends everything, for those I do not know or care for, the law!"

Sean's stepfather has also used the Hague Convention to defend similar cases in court. Another hypocrite!

It's of little use in asking Sean what he wants because the poor child is probably suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. It's already been established that Sean was instructed to call his stepfather "Dad" and his real biological father "the American".

Not only should Sean go back to the US, certain members of the Lins e Silva family should be charged with obstruction of justice and aiding and abetting the abduction of a child. The grandmother who appeared on O Globo and lied, should do time.

Bruna already got hers.
A Similar International Custody battle to ensue - a Franco-Russian girl
written by Augustus, March 30, 2009
In order to shed some additional light into this remarkable issue, I would like to bring to everyone's attention that early in March 2009 a 4-year old girl was actually kidnapped by (as opposed to gone on vacation with) her Russian Mother from her biological French father.
Although the Russian authorities have so far indicated that neither the girl nor her mother have yet been located in the family's Moscow residence, they have, however, notified both the French government as well as the European Union that, in the event this child is found to be anywhere within the territory of the Russian Federation, she will NOT be returned to her father.
Because the child is also a Russian citizen, she would never be removed from her Russian family in order to be returned to the custody of her biological French father, regardless of what any foreign court may eventually pronounce...
Since I have heard this in RT (Russian News Network which now broadcasts in American cable system - in English), I thought the slight similarity of this case could be utilized as an additional element for consideration.... (Among the debaters on both sides)
Augusto
written by Captain Kirk, March 30, 2009
She's with her French MOM right? Her biological mom is still alive right? There are no similarities with these cases. Sean's mother is dead. Sean belongs with his father. End of story.
Bruna already got hers.......????
written by ..., March 30, 2009
That's cold, real cold. The woman is deceased for God sakes!

That's exactly what I mean... Americans don't get their way, they start shooting. Ugly, hence, the Ugly american.

Sean will remain in Brasil, whether the amerikans like it or not!

amerikans..... KISS MY (.....0.....)

Costa
Costa
written by Captain Kirk, March 30, 2009
Karma's a bitch, just ask Bruna... tough tities if you think that's cruel. She made her son's life a living hell by her actions, I have no sympathy whatsoever for that mariapassporte.

By the way, I'm not American, nice try though. Sean belongs with his FATHER. End of story. I don't care if his father is American or Swiss.

It's only the Brazilians that see this as an issue of nationality. That's why during the US protests for Sean release the banners read "Justice for Sean" and the protests in brazil, to keep Sean CAPTIVE, the banners read: "Sean é Brasiliero".

Your people don't give a f.u.ck about justice or what's right. It's a "Brasil against the evil imperialists" fight in your eyes.

How pathetic is that? To use a child as a pawn in a war to rebuild your silly inferiority complex with the developed world is repugnant, but expected in Latin America.
Captain Fart
written by ...., March 30, 2009
The plain truth is you plain suck. You are no more than a pesky fly buzzing about the place spreading germs.

FU

Costinha
Captain Kirk - Too many stories to End :-)
written by Augustus, March 30, 2009
Firstly, I must tell you that I really like your chose ALIAS. I presume you may share my admiration for the Star Trek series of movies and "seasons"

Secondly, I am not certain whether you have read the previous entries I had posted elsewhere, regarding my "personal story" where I was the subject of a custody case and I did not want to be with my father, even though HE was right. Mercifully I was allowed to remain with my Grand Mother who was the person I truly loved the most.

Finally, this particular story poses a major challenge for me - a challenge which I knew might come one day: a dispute between my TWO NATIONS. You have no idea how difficult I struggle with this particular issue, not only for being a citizen of both countries, loving both them, and having been the subject of a custody case.

As such, I will repeat what I have said before... The boy - now 9 years old - should decide it HIMSELF! This is the END OF STORY!

Cheers
...
written by Captain Kirk, March 30, 2009
Costa nice to see an intelligent rebuttal. When you wipe away the snot bubbles, regain your composure and actually have a thought, or even half a thought, let us know.

Augusto, no, I've not followed the saga of your upbringing, nor do I care to. Laws are designed to keep personal biases and emotional baggage out of important decision making. Except for Brazil, where there is a push to throw all the law books out the window and follow "alternative" law, which doesn't bold well for the future of justice in Brazil. I suggest that you spelunk through this site, and search for articles written by a gentleman named Zimmerman expressing concern for ilk of legal skulduggery.

As for letting Sean make the decision, well, at his age he's too emotionally malleable, which brings me to a point I raised earlier, after four years in captivity,(don't forget, it's been proven that Sean was instructed to refer to his biological father as "the American") I'd bet he's already suffering from severe Stockholm Syndrome. Sean is in no condition to make the final decision.

Not only should the Lins e Silva family be charged with abduction and obstruction of justice, but mental abuse and suffering should be included too.

Here's the deal Brazil. FOLLOW THE F.U.C.KING CONVENTION OR GET OUT OF IT! Sean needs to be with his father, not some smarmy carioca playboy using him to get back at the "Sreat Satan"
Here's the deal Brazil….. I am Captain Fart to save the world!
written by ....., March 30, 2009
Hehehe…. Hey Captain…I would like to smoke the same s.h.i.t. you are smoking…… Hehehe!

Biological father or mother really means nothing… look at all the orphans around the world!

A parent is the one who protects, laughs and cries with the child, nurtures back to health when sick, in short, offers his or her presence, every second of every day.

Mr. Goldman as I recall, under the advice of his lawyer, refuse to see Sean the last four years. Mr. Goldman is pissed at Bruna for what she did, getting Sean back, is Mr. Goldman’s way of having the last word, plain and simple. There is no love here!

Sean is a Brasilian citizen, he loves his home and only family he knows. Simple for the Federal court, Sean stays in Brasil where he is better served.

Costinha


Captain Fart says: y the way, I'm not American, nice try though.
written by ....., March 30, 2009
No, he is not american, he is from New Jersey!

Hahahaha

Costinha
...
written by Captain Kirk, March 30, 2009
A parent is the one who protects, laughs and cries with the child, nurtures back to health when sick, in short, offers his or her presence, every second of every day.


Kinda like what that Austrian bloke who buggered his daughter for decades said, ne? Actually, most kidnappers and tormentors, when not looking for a ransom or revenge, say the exact same thing. It was done with benevolence. Me poupa!

Mr. Goldman is pissed at Bruna for what she did, getting Sean back


Bruna was a “mariapassorte”, without doubt. She used David to go to the US, but sadly discovered that the US is not quite an episode of 90125; few Americans have maids and gardeners to abuse, and so she lied then f**ked off: Sean in tow, to hurt David further. Glad you see it that way, too. But you really think that David is doing this to get back a Bruna? lol. She's worm food! There could be no sweeter retribution! David didn't need to "get back" at her, karma did it for him. It makes this case all the more ironic.

Sean is a Brasilian citizen, he loves his home and only family he knows.


Can Sean ever run for President in Brazil? NO! He’s no more Brazilian than Héctor Babenco or BO! Sean is and always will be a gringo. Don’t take that gold card away from him.

But stop wasting my time with your emotional platitudes and spare us your scatology. This case needs to be decided legally and in the US as stated in the Hague Convention. If Brazil doesn’t abide by the rules of this convention, then they can pull out of it, and kiss their wild dreams of a permanent seat on the Security Council goodbye.
Dear Captain Fart:
written by ....., March 30, 2009
Indeed. Good bye, so long… By the way, next time if I want to hear from an a*****e, I will fart.

Thank you for the offer,

Costinha
Sorry
written by ...., March 30, 2009
These estrogen shots I'm taking as of late have me all emotional.

An added dilemma is that I rented out Costeleta last night to 4 elderly German sex tourists for an evening, and she's not returned. I'm deathly worried. Worried that she'll miss tonight's weekly appointment with 2 or 3 regular municipal councilors. If I don't make rent this week, it's back to ball juggling.

Costeleta dear, please come home soon. Mommy misses you.

Hehehe

Costa
...
written by ...., March 30, 2009
COSTELETA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Minha querida, onde vc esta? A mamae precisa de vc!

Who will inject my estrogen? My boobies are sagging. I have appointments. I have facial hair? I hate ball juggling!

Hehehe, sob sob sob

Costinha
CostaLata...
written by ..., March 30, 2009
Buzz off annoying little piveti! You not even funny, otherwise i'd encourage you.

You gonna have to eat a lot of american pie to "Fake the Funk."

FU

Costinha

...
written by ...., March 30, 2009
Again, sorry all. I'm having a women's moment. It happens every once and a while. For those who don't know, I'm in the process, pre op, of becoming a women. I make more money dancing for Ch.c and his rich European friends, then I did juggling balls on street corners. I now make enough money to by the good glue..... sssssssssnnnnnnnnnnniiiiiiiiiiiiffffffffffff

ahhhhh. Life's great in Rocinha...

Hehehe

kisses
Costinha
CostaLata...
written by ..., March 30, 2009
Go play with yourself...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPCqNs3Ua9A

Costinha
...
written by ...., March 30, 2009
Costeleta!!!!! You know what time of year it is? Remember me when I was a man?



look at me now...



BTW, for those who don't know me, I'm the one of the right....

Hehehe


Costinha,

VOLTA PRA CASA MEU AMOR!!!! TE AMO!!!!!!!! COSTELETA!!!!!!!!!
...
written by ...., March 30, 2009
COSSSSSTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
LLAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...
written by ...., March 30, 2009
Hehehe

Costinha
Costeleta and the David Goldman Gang!
written by ...., March 31, 2009
Costeleta.... volta pro Zoológico Macaca.

Vai sê siriricar até shana escrota ficar bem dolerida, minha querida FDP!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPCqNs3Ua9A

Go ahead and have a fit…. Sean Goldman will remain in Brasil.


Hehehe

The Costinha da Costa



HeheheheheKKKKKkkkkkHahahahahaha

Costa!!!!!! Someone get a medic for Costinha
written by Augustus, March 31, 2009
Estou bestificado com a ensenacao...
My dear boy, old friend.... Voce pirou mesmo smilies/cheesy.gif
Calling the ambulance for my friend in Rio, who appears to be in the brink.... smilies/cheesy.gif
You are way too funny!
(Going back to the Tower to "question" recently arrested Venezuelan prisoners) smilies/grin.gif
How about a wager?
written by Captain Kirk, March 31, 2009
Go ahead and have a fit…. Sean Goldman will remain in Brasil.


Sean will no doubt head back to the US, like the legacy pilots that were also caught-up in an legally unrelated, but similarly xenophobically-driven, morass of Brazilian stupidity, corruption and incompetence.

Sean will head back to the US. It is already in the cards, so your sniveling, apoplectic fits mean nothing here. It's obvious that you're simply nuts, as are many in that den of inequity ironically referred to as the "marvelous city" lol.

So here's the wager sunshine, since you're so convinced to be right. If Sean heads back to the US, you must cease and desist posting on this site, and allow the SANER (don't chuckle, there are one or two) discussions to continue without interjecting your puerile mephitic scatology. What do you say? Put up or shut up.
Kirk - not a fair wager! A humble request
written by Augustus, March 31, 2009
Captain...
Whatever you may think about our esteemed Costinha, I would like to inform you that he is a beloved fellow member of this clan, who has various facets (including a highly intellectual side of him in addition to the usual role he plays – that of a "Smooth Operator" typically "Carioca" - the name given to those born in Rio, such as Costa and myself).
Since his "smooth", highly comical remarks (as well as his less frequent serious, even profound entries) are indispensible for this blog, I would like to request that you reconsider "editing" your wager to "NOT posting on this blog for a week or a month - any reasonable period of time). This is because I suspect Costinha might accept your wager, and he is an Honorable man!
Please reconsider complying with my request...
Kirk - a question
written by Augustus, March 31, 2009
Without attempting to pry into your privacy, since you appear to have become a "regular" within our group - even if at times not quite as friendly (although far more approachable and less hostile than other clan members from Europe), might I enquire just the country where you reside?
We all know where almost everybody else is:
I, Augustus Severus, have been residing in Manhattan – NYC for most of my life (originally from Rio) – bearing Portuguese and British connections…
Costinha is not only a native but also an eternal resident of his beloved Rio de Janeiro
CH-C resides in Geneva
Joao & ASP live in Southern Brazil (Joao is Brazilian // ASP is American)
Bo, the American (about to –surprisingly- become Brazilian citizen) appears to live either in Belo Horizonte or somewhere in Northeastern Brazil
We know that you do not live in the US (you have already told us that much) and CLEARLY you do not live in Brazil (a country which you obviously detest), as such, I find myself exceedingly curious as to the country which has the "privilege" of calling you a "resident"
- LOL
Cheers
Captain Fart at it, again!
written by ....., March 31, 2009
Sean will head back to the US. It is already in the cards

Hehehehe… Come on man, let me have some of that s.h.i.t. you been smoking…………

Yo no soy marinero, soy capitan, soy capitan, soy capitan… Baila La Bamba…. Lalalala…..

Captain Fart, don't be bitter at me… Be bitter at your parents for mixing their genes and spawning you. Captain Fart, the zit-faced perpetual wedgie victim.

Hehehe,

Costa
Augsutus
written by Captain Kirk, March 31, 2009
Augsutus

Costinha is little more than a troll. He's the wrench thrown into the gears of discussion to bring the entire debate crashing down. He’s openly admitted that this is indeed his agenda with this site. To destroy it because the discussions about Brazil's problems rub him the wrong way.

As well, apart from calling form members "p.e.dophiles", something that would land him a much deserved punch in the face if ever uttered in person, he spends his entire day only belittling other members who have legitimate complains, concerns and issues to raise, but are contrary to his own. His treatment of Shelly, a brasilera ex pat, is simply pathetic, misogynist and dishonorable. He has serious issues with the female gender, and for you or anyone to defend his sexist hate filled harangues against her, leaves me perplexed. Maybe this is how Brazilian men are brought up to threat women?

If you find yourself having much in common with this human trash, that's an issue you need to ferret out with yourself. You sound reasonable, but your defence of Costinha is inexplicable. Costinha has never offered anything remotely intelligent to the discussions, and for you to claim otherwise, makes me question your motives.

But you do not need to worry, Costinha is not an honourable man, so not only do I expect him to slink away like a vira lata that’s been tortured by a group of favalados, but if he did take the wager, and lost, he’d never honour it. He’s a typical carioca maladro.
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written by Captain Kirk, March 31, 2009
That's typical carioca MALANDRO... sorry about the typo.

OBS, the more I read through the archives of this site, the more I'm convinced Brazil is indeed an insane nation and this Cosinha potty-mouthed SOB, in any other site I've participated in, would have been banned,Tout de suite.

The challenge stands. But I don't expect this coward to accept.
Captain Fart… Done Deal!
written by ....., March 31, 2009
I am about to hire “Shelly,” she will put-on her high-heals f.u.c.k.m.e. shoes, and dance La Cucaracha on your testicles!


Hehehe


Costinha

Ps: Yo no soy marinero, soy capitan, soy capitan, soy capitan… Baila La Bamba…. Lalalala…..
Captain Fart… Get-off your high-horse, DOUCHEBAGFAG!
written by ....., March 31, 2009
I can predict with a high degree of certainty we are dealing with a hypocrite, Captain Fart. Let’s see his profile…

John Wayne styled, lost in the right-wing notion of american courage and conservative manliness mythology.

Frequently devolves into personal attacks (when not in agreement) and vast generalizations of others (and always wrong).

Goes to church every Sunday but yet in his privacy, an avid reader of child pornography.

He deplores the destruction of the world’s rainforests by other nations yet ignores the plea of his own native forests and indigenous people.

He cares about public health, welfare and education, yet offers them endless supply of junk food, homeless, and new jails.

He talks about honesty and integrity in government yet continues to elect persons who are the highest bidder when they take office.

He declares his allegiance to God but yet, justifies all the american wars around the globe to protect their freedom.

He proclaims war on drug-lords but yet are the biggest consumers of those life destroying drugs.


Shall I say more?

Captain Fart… Thanks, I always wondered what chicken-s.h.i.t., horse-s.h.i.t. and bulls.h.i.t. would smell like if it was all mixed together in one post. Now I know.

Costinha

Ps: Yo no soy marinero, soy capitan, soy capitan, soy capitan… Baila La Bamba…. Lalalala…..
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written by Captain Kirk, March 31, 2009
LOL

I rest my case, Costinha is an absolutely deranged individual and, as I predicted, a textbook coward. Olha o rabinho dele entrar nas pernas dele! hahaha.

A god fearing right wing tree hugger I am, am I? LOL

Costinha, your syphilitic mind is atrophying faster than the doctors at SUS assured you. Your grasp of reality is not only suspect, but simply non existent. And Augustus considers you intelligent?

I have a theory about Augustus' parental support of Costinha . They're both cariocas, and like family, even when there's a black sheep or a mentally challenged individual in the clan, you stick together.

Hypothetically, Augustus is the father of a retarded child with turrets named Costinha. That child is sitting at a dinner table playing with his own feces, blowing snot bubbles, and cussing nonsensically. Augustus, although well aware that this behavior is odd, has in fact habituated to the disgusting display over the years.

His guests of course, have not.

He tries highlight some of Costinha accomplishments, and mentions how Csotinha actually did MATH on day in his feces, a sign, Augustus argues, that there is some ideation behind the cromagunum-like skull covered in snot and filth. Some guests nod politely, others simply make up an excuse to leave, and bolt in disgust.

To the surprise of those still remaining, Augustus even encourages the retarded attention seeking brat in hopes that some positive interaction will stave off a full blowm mental collapse, and potential harm to those attending the meal.

And Augustus wonders why there are so few attending his gatherings as of late.

Luckily for you Augustus, Dr. Captain Kirk is here to tell you what you should have been told a long time again. Your kid is not just mentally stunted, he's clinically psychotic, and needs professional help and should be quarantined from the general public because not only does he pose a danger to himself, but to others.

Costinha, I knew you'd be a coward about the wager. YOU BIG SUCKYWUCKY. lol. You REALLY a pilot? LOL

Augustus, do you think you'd hold a different opinion of this cretin if he were from another nation?
Captain Fart or Captain Fake ?????
written by ...., March 31, 2009
I think Captain Fart is actually Captain Fake… It has the likings of “Shelly,” the Crazy American Jewish Princess, is that you J.A.P.? It sounds just like the old heifer we all know, the dynamic humping of the herd. I love you Shelley, chupa…. FDP!

Augustus, don’t worry, I will take care of this pesking little rascal…

Anyway, Capitan…. Your theories don’t measure up, nothing that Prozak won’t take care of. I wanted to brainstorm with you, however, the closest you'll ever come to a brainstorm is a light drizzle.

Captain Fart…. Do you ever wonder what life would be like had you had enough oxygen at birth?

Luv U Babes,

Costinha

PS: Você não é qualificada pra chupar o meu pinto!

Hehehe
U.S. should ban Brazilian Products!
written by Shelly1, April 01, 2009
1) Sean was kidnapped. End of Story.
Bruna is the worst mother in the world, now is dead-that is end of story.
2) Since the mother is 6 feet under, Sean should be given back to his father. According to Brazilian law, if a father is alive, only he can give his paternal rights to the mother. You cannot adopt a child in Brazil if the father has not agreed to it or if he still alive.
3) Father gave authorization to Sean to VISIT, NOT LIVE in Brazil
4) Lins Family are gangters, criminals and kidnappers. They should face jail time, but that won't happen. End of Story.
5) I hope David gets to see his son back, if that had happened to my kids, I would be doing the same-fighting for my rights a mother of my son or daughter.
6) Bruna is a BITCH, a coward, and the worst mother I know. What she did to Sean is unforgivable.
7) Brazil is a lawless country-that is end of story. Advice for foreign dads:

1) Do not allow your wife to visit Brazil with your kid
2) Don't trust anyone in Brazil
3) Do not allow your kid to have a Brazilian passport
4) Have her/his family visit you.
Captain Kirk
written by Shelly1, April 01, 2009
Yes, Brazilian man have a problem with assertive and intelligent women. They have complexes beyond comprehension, hence I married a foreigner and I must say, what a relief! I don't want to put everyone here on the same pot, but I don't expect any defense. I say what I believe in, Brazil is a trash country, the laws are trash, the education is trash, the people...well you get the drill. I only visit because my family still lives in Rio, as soon as my family is no longer on this earth, so long brazucas. I rather go to the Cayman Islands or the Bahamas for my vacation!

Seriously, don't waste your words with something that has no value in this world. Costa like other here can't take criticism. Again, it is the Brazilian-boy-30-something-living-at-home syndrome. My kid has a job, I can't imagine costinha having one or if he does, I can't imagine what he does, the likes of him walk around the beach selling amendoin or maconha no morro.




c**ksuckerstinha
written by Shelly1, April 01, 2009
And I would not like to suck your leprosy ridden D.I.C.K. Yuck, I can do better than that!!!

Costinha is a real drag, I mean, drag-queen. Now, go back home and only get out once you finish you make-up!
Captain Kirt
written by Shelly1, April 01, 2009
Costinha is a pilot!

The pilot on my stove or a.k.a."piloto de fogao" smilies/wink.gif
A friendly Admonishment to Captain Kirk
written by Augustus, April 01, 2009
When I left Brazil, SEVERAL years ago, I must confess that I shared the sentiments you expressed above. In addition, I am particularly distressed and concerned (not to mention disgusted with the current labor administration - which represents nothing more than a "CORJA", a bunch of radical socialists who are bound to be manipulated by Hugo Chavez.

Nevertheless, I consider it absolutely inappropriate to insult every single Brazilian alive... Not only because one should avoid (as much as possible) to extrapolate the characteristics of some individuals (even when they are "many") into a category which incorporates everybody holding Brazilian citizenship.

In fact, I would like to strongly emphasize that there are many honest, well intended, good people in Brazil, whose heart and soul, quite frankly, overly exceeds in kindness, humanity and friendship those in most other areas of this planet!
Augustus
written by Shelly1, April 01, 2009
When I left Brazil, SEVERAL years ago, I must confess that I shared the sentiments you expressed above. In addition, I am particularly distressed and concerned (not to mention disgusted with the current labor administration - which represents nothing more than a "CORJA", a bunch of radical socialists who are bound to be manipulated by Hugo Chavez.

Ouch, just Chavez? Lula doesn't have the balls to lead S.A. and Brazil is a laughing stock of Latin America. Chavez, Morales, Rafael Correa, Kitchner could care less about Brazil-and they have said and done actions to prove it. The said leaders are the ventriloquist and they tell MULA what to say, when, where, and how to say it. Lula is worst than Bush in many ways and form.

It is funny that you think that it is inappropriate to insult every single Brazilians alive. I disagree with generalization, but some of the posts here are an example of how crazy this country and its people can be. You cannot separate the two, not in this case. We should go back to the discussions.

Inappropriate, dear Augustus, is how the Brazilian Judicial system has dealt with this case. Inappropriate is that the rich can get away with kidnapping and murder in Brazil, I don't see a public outcry for the injustices perpetrated by the rich and the politicians in Brazil.

Inappropriate are the laws of Brazil. A backward country wannabe progressive. It is a joke really, if you think about it, you will come to your senses. This kid belongs with his father, not in Brazil. Bruna truly is the worst mother on the planet, if you had kids, would you be so selfish and ruin the life of your child? Not only the worst mother, but a psychopath, she clearly had a serious case postpartum depression. She is where she belongs.

I would have done the same and brought the case to the limelight, Dave seems to be a loving and brave dad. I hope he gets his son back.

Your example about Russia is pointless in this case. The laws in Brazil are not the same and if you know anything about adoption case-which I do, you cannot adopt a child if the parents have not relinquished their paternal and maternal rights. Also, even if it was beneficial for Sean to stay in Brazil, the family committed a crime. Would you like your kids around criminals? Or do you think because of their social class they are immune to the laws of the country? If a black, poor, and person in Brazil does the same, would you and everyone here stand for the child staying in Brazil?

I don't want to call you a hypocrite, but you don't leave me any other choice.
Shelly… The Humping Dynamics of the Herd.
written by ....., April 01, 2009
Full steam ahead I see… I knew the “Captain Fart Captain Fake” piece would draw you in. No need for you to pretend to be the Captain (Fart or Fake)! Your style is always recognizable, after all, not too many have seen more ceilings than you, except for Miguel Angelo, of course.

Shelly, you really are more predictable then fish at the end of the line. In your case however, you are the bait… smelly enough to draw game. Shelly, the special Jewish American Princess, selling everything, for the right price!

Luv U Babes,

Your Costa
Shelly… The Lady is a Tramp.
written by ....., April 01, 2009
Isn’t She a “Class Act” or what? Quote:


c**ksuckerstinha
written by Shelly1, April 01, 2009
And I would not like to suck your leprosy ridden D.I.C.K. Yuck, I can do better than that!!!

Costinha is a real drag, I mean, drag-queen. Now, go back home and only get out once you finish you make-up!


Hehehe…. She seems ticked-off at me….. Hehehe. She is mad because of her second-class status in her america.

Shelly, the typical jewish sell-out and quite expected. She is running in support her religion colleague, David Goldman, the man without a heart.

And yes yes yes, yes yes yes…. I am a “pilot” honey, but as a hobby, not profession. You see, I have an instrument and multi-engine ticket, valid in Brasil as well as the US of A and other countries. Now then, if you want a ride, I will wear a single parachute and when we reach 2 thousand meters cruising altitude, I will turn-off the engines, say good bye to you and jump….. Hehehehe!

Shelly, next time you have another seizure, can I watch?

As always, um grande beliscão nessas tetas caídas,

Costinha


PS: Sean Goldman will remain in Brasil, where he belongs.
Augustus: You’re judged by the company you keep.
written by Captain Kirk, April 01, 2009
In fact, I would like to strongly emphasize that there are many honest, well intended, good people in Brazil


I have no doubt at all, Augustus. I never claimed or argued otherwise. There are great people the world over; and honestly, your sermon would best serve the syphilitic mind on this forum that constantly generalizes, belittles and humiliates, or tries to, any culture not Brazilian. He’s the Brazilian version of Ch.C, only our Swiss blogger actually does add a great deal of content to his rants, unlike Costinha who simply shoves his finger up his ass, then runs around trying to give everyone the “cooties”.

But this cretin Costinha, goes beyond xenophobia and the blind hatred of other nations, he hates women, too. And you need go no further than this particular blog to find your proof.

You come off as a cultured “gentleman” Augustus, so the language Cosintha uses towards Shelly and other women should have you spinning in your sophistication with disgust. Yet, for some inexplicable reason, you find it entertaining? Maybe Shelly’s right: misogyny is something found in the DNA of Brazilian culture. A meme passed on generation after generation. I certainly hope that’s not true.

Augustus, you are indeed perplexing. You chide “rational” posters (politely I’ll add, my hat’s off to you) on this blog for being too “insensitive” to Brazil, yet encourage the village idiot-like antics of a raving, s**t-tossing, certifiable lunatic who adds nothing to the discourse other than insensitive hate filled harangues against women, with overt references to rape; cultural bigotry and of course his infamous gutter vocabulary. A true gentleman would never tolerate, let alone encourage, his disrespect for the “fairer sex”.

I‘ve heard there are great people in Brazil, and as you said, some of the kindest in the world. But they’re too quite. Brazil also has disproportionately more freaky murderous psychopaths and blind xenophobic ignorant nationalists than most countries too, and sadly for Brazil, they happen to be the loudest. Also, the former group are quite terrified of the latter, and for obvious reasons.
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written by Captain Kirk, April 01, 2009
Augustus, don’t worry, I will take care of this pesking little rascal…


I'm a widdle wascal, hmm? How cute.

I see you've ducked the issue of the wager ONCE AGAIN, Costinha. You've got the spine of a tabloid newspaper. But that's been obvious from the start.
Costinha,
written by Captain Kirk, April 01, 2009
Full steam ahead I see… I knew the “Captain Fart Captain Fake” piece would draw you in. No need for you to pretend to be the Captain (Fart or Fake)! Your style is always recognizable, after all, not too many have seen more ceilings than you, except for Miguel Angelo, of course.


You're simply deranged and mentally ill little boy Costinha, and of course you've still not tamed your violent misogynist thoughts. That should concern authorities, or those closest to you.

Was it your mother abandoning you that makes so angry towards women? Or have was it that too many women laughed in your naked presence, that has given you aspirations to be a serial killer?
piloto de fogao!!!!!
written by Shelly1, April 01, 2009
And yes yes yes, yes yes yes…. I am a “pilot” honey, but as a hobby, not profession. You see, I have an instrument and multi-engine ticket, valid in Brasil as well as the US of A and other countries. Now then, if you want a ride, I will wear a single parachute and when we reach 2 thousand meters cruising altitude, I will turn-off the engines, say good bye to you and jump….. Hehehehe!


Piloto de fogao, what a bunch of bull-crap! Wow, the stuff you get from the favala in Rio is potent, man. You made me almost believe you...almost. Good joke tough. But Ch.C. is much more entertaining than you are.

P.S.: If Brazil is a serious country (I seriously doubt it), Sean is going to return home.
Shelly… (Captain Fart in disguise) or Captain Fart… (Shelly in disguise)!
written by ....., April 01, 2009
Nice try wanker… Who said I don’t respect you? But in the morning, don’t forget to take the trash on your way out!

Pontapé no bundão da piranha,

Costinha
Violent AND delusional. Costinha is melting down.
written by Captain Kirk, April 01, 2009
It’s a conspiracy for you now is it? lol

Costinha, just because you have multiple personalities on this site doesn’t mean others do, too. Stop the projecting. The reality is that there are indeed many who feel you are a nuisance on this site and you are someone in need serious psychiatric attention. You take trolling to newer, scarier, levels and your delusions of grandeur coupled with your misogynist antics should be looked at more closely by a professional.

You are very mentally unstable and those in your immediate surroundings should be very cautious. It’s only a matter of time before you pop one synapse too many and acts out your inner turmoil.

Again, your dodging of the wager has been noted.

Cowards usually are angry little misogynist boys.
Shelly1
written by Captain Kirk, April 01, 2009
P.S.: If Brazil is a serious country (I seriously doubt it), Sean is going to return home.


That's what irks me.... I don't question whether Brazil is a serious country or not. I know the answer, and I'm concerned for the child.
Did you say delusional?
written by ..., April 02, 2009
Look the above message....

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Shelly1
written by Captain Kirk, April 01, 2009
"

She is writing to herself, what a neurotic nut case... Smelly Shelly (Capitona Kirka).

Your Golf Bag Does Not Contain A Full Set Of Irons…


Hehehehe


Costinha


Costa
Did you say delusional?
written by Captain Kirk, April 02, 2009
Yes, you're delusional.

Your hubris simply shatters in the presence of someone far more intelligent and successful from the opposite sex, or anyone for that matter. You convulse, spittle in rage and have uncontrollable mucous explosions. I can see you literally fuming over your computer, trying to pound through the plastic the doctors have placed over the keyboard to keep in clean.

As noted in the other blog, I'm rather flattered you consider my writing on par with that of Shelly's. It' been obvious, from what I have read here, she is one of the most intelligent, and more importantly, SANE posters. Beyond her witty jabs, her posts are usually quite content heavy.

So you can continue to delude yourself thinking I'm Shelly, and I'll continue to take that as a compliment.

I actually liken you to Tom Lloyd and Don Juan, two newly joined knuckle dragging monosynaptic fools that couldn't put a rational thought together even working in tandem. It's quite interesting that two individuals, so utterly and hopelessly devoid of original thought would find one another, and embark on such as worthy cause as to defend the site's token misogynist.

So, please continue to compare me to Shelly! Because, being compared with twiddle-dee and twiddle-dumb wouldn't be as flattering.lol
How can a mother's lover get custody?
written by JusticeBrazil, April 02, 2009
Come on!! Joao said he talked to Bruna on the phone BEFORE she left the U.S.A. Am I the only one that realizes what happened? She talks to him, she tells David she's going on Vacation, she kidnaps him to Brazil, meets up with Joao and moves in with him (though she told the courts she was with her parents, Joao revealed that lie) within months is making Sean call her lover Daddy...

Meanwhile the real father files for legal return within weeks. No Brazilians yelling for justice then. Poor boy taken from his culture, his home, his father, his happiness, and thrown into this new atmosphere.....no Brazilians around protesting for the kid then. The lover keeps it in court and fills the pockets of the Judges enough that they say that somehow in around a year he fully adapted to a brand new culture, language and her mother's lover and therefore it wouldn't make sense to send him back to his real father and culture and language he knew. Yeah...that makes sense.

Enter 4 years when Karma kills Bruna (happy day, VERY happy day) and this man thinks "Finally, after 4 years of dealing with the corrupt Brazilian State courts I get my son" Only to find out now that the lover gets custody? Thank the gods America got involved and got this into Brazil's federal courts.

As for those wanting what's best for the child...let's get real, any child can adapt to a new environment (hell, Brazil said he adapted to theirs in a year), so that's not an issue. But even if it WAS then the WORSE case is that David raise Sean in Brazil. Of course, everyone knows parents know what's best for their children. So if they did grant custody of Sean to David and told him to Leave in Brazil they'd be undermining the basic idea of parenting: I mean, come on, they gonna stop every Brazilian from moving out of the country with their kids "Yes, we know they are yours, but they are so happy in Brazil and don't want to move" Or better yet, how about stopping their people from moving cities "I know you want to go to Brasilia but Goiania is where your kids are happiest."

Hell no, that wouldn't happen. So since every logical outcome = biological father, and parents know what's best for their kids, Lins e silva has to resort to the ludicrous idea that even though he wasn't married to Bruna for a year, that as her lover, and having made Sean call him Dad since the first year (his own confession) that the lover is the real parent.

WTF is he smoking? What happens if lins e silva dies, then does his 2nd wife get custody? lol. Come on already, give the parent custody. Maybe David will raise him in Brazil. If I was a Brazilian nationalist the furthest I would even be willing to go as a court of equity is making David raise him in Brazil. But not having David as the parent ISN'T an option. or isn't to sane people.

I like to type a lot.
wow justicebrazil is so smart
written by JusticeBrazil, April 02, 2009
Now I know what you all are going to say: "wow you are so smart Justice Brazil, your words are full of logic and meaning"

Please, please, do not praise me yet. I am but a humble servant of justice.
JusticeBrazil
written by Shelly1, April 03, 2009
You don't have to go beyond to make your case. David has not given up his paternal rights, therefore, according to the judicial system HE IS STILL the FATHER.

The grandparents along with Lins SHOULD GO TO JAIL. I am asking you to think in simple terms here. Do you think Brazilians would be interested in this case if the kid was black and from a poor family?

The media is biased on this, look at the law only. Bruna is the worst mother on this planet and what she has done to the poor little boy is truly insane.

JUSTICE FOR DAVID GOLDMAN- JUSTICE FOR DAVID GOLMAN- JUSTICE FOR DAVID GOLDMAN
written by Shelly1, April 03, 2009
I hope David Goldman gets to take his son back home. Home for me is the U.S. and it will always be.

BRING SEAN HOME NOW!

P.S.: Costinha, you can call me a jewish princess. I am proud to be a jew, really proud!
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 03, 2009
Great points, Shelly!

I was just saying the other day, Imagine if the father was a Brazilian in the U.S. trying to get custody. There wouldn't even BE a debate right now.

IT is 100% nationalism on Brazil's side and 110% common sense on David's side. I have yet to see ANY argument for David not having custody. Not one. I've seen one argument for leaving Sean in Brazil (and no, it isn't cause he likes it, kids like lots of places but we let their parents move them EVERY DAY) and that's cause of his half sister.

Of course, under Brazilian logic we should just have David Goldman raise the Lover's daughter so she can be with her half brother. lol. I digress, you are right, it is simple, only one biological parent who is loving (from the mouth of the kidnapper even). The end.
Hi Shelly,
written by Adriana A., April 04, 2009
So nice you are here.

This whole case made me depressed. A couple weeks ago, there was a thread here about it and I was such big mouth in that thread that it took a toll on me. I went to see a psychologist, can you believe that?
I told my psychologist -she is american- that I was feeling less Brazilian, she knows about the case. She told me to not feel that way.

So I decided to help in any way I can, and I have been doing that since then. And to my surprise, I encountered many, many Brazilians that were doing the same, we formed some sort of community. I am so proud of them. Now, I feel Brazilian again.

That is how we should love our country -and humanity- by standing up against injustice. I don't want Brazil to be known as a non-compliant of the Hague Treaty, or any other treaty for that matter.

I am asking you to think in simple terms here. Do you think Brazilians would be interested in this case if the kid was black and from a poor family?


I kind of agree with you, but we should not forget that there are around 50 American children held ilegally in Brazil in simmilar situations. Also, Goldman's case calls more atention because the mom died, the stepfather comes from a family of lawyers, the grandmother is known in the Rio's upperclass, and the temporary custody was granted to the stepfather in an unusual speed that makes you think. SO this combinations of factors are clearly a recipe for disaster!
Best
Ms.
written by Grace, April 04, 2009
I am also Brazilian and a member of the Bring Sean Home campaign. I can tell you there are many Brazilians for David. But they are the ones informed, cultured and not associated with the vain and corrupt Rio elite. This case would have been already solved if Lula had stepped in, but everyone knows about his ties with Evandro Lins e Silva. The one who loved Carioca playboys. Shame on my country's Judiciary system and shame on Globo's bias. The only reason i still have any pride of being Brazilian is the huge number of intelligent and sensible people, as can be seen on several comment sections of articles surrounding this case. And yes, if this was a poor black boy, Brazilians wouldn't be giving a s**t. Do not believe we Brazilians are not racist. Stop this palhacada, send this boy back to his real father!
Bruna and her parents only wanted MONEY!
written by naomi, April 05, 2009
Why would Bruna marry such a Ugly looking person like Joao Paulo Lins e Silva except for Money. What sleazy looking guy!
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 05, 2009
lol, he is sleazy. And HOW is he still a lawyer? What a liar. At least the courts caught him on it recently.

Personally, though, I think Bruna is ugly. I see nothing attractive about her. I'm just use to REAL Brazilian beauty, in my wife!! smilies/cheesy.gif
I pray....
written by ...., April 05, 2009
… that Sean Goldman will remain in Brasil, his home, his family and his country. The boy has avidly admitted his fears of being yanked out of his home in Brasil.

Mr. David Goldman should be ashamed…. Again, all he wants is to have the last word and unfortunately, he is using Sean is an instrument for him to achieve his objectives. As expected, Mr. David is not considering the feelings of Sean once again, but rather, his own “pride,” just as he has conducted himself since the beginning of this saga.

The old saying better describes it: “If You Want to Know the Future, Just Examine the Past”

Sad, really!

Costinha

you PRAY?
written by Captain Kirk, April 05, 2009
Costinha, you chauvinistic, mentally unstable, cultural bigot. You've go no views worth entertaining here. You're blinded by your own rabid nationalism to ever truly see this case objectively or justly, just like the legal system in Brazil. It's too wrapped up in trying to "screw an American" to be of any legal use. Exactly why the Hague Convention on International child abduction was created.

For you to argue this child has no place with his father, but should stay in Rio, a city with one of the highest crime rates in the world, and with one of Brazil's most corrupt families (who Sean has NO BLOOD TIES TO, and has only known for a few years), is despicable.

Sean is probably suffering from Stockholm Syndrome now, his captors have made sure of that. When Sean is home, I hope the Lins e Silva family are charged with obstruction of justice, abduction, corruption, and inflicting mental trauma on a child.

As for the dumb mule Costinha, you can lead him to knowledge, but you can't make him think.
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 05, 2009
God bless the captain.

It's like Brazilians don't realize that 9 year old boys move EVERY DAY, even though they don't want to.

I mean, you really know you're dealing with a dense judicial system when they openly admit that the biological father had the child illegally ripped from him, is more than fit to be the parent, and is the ONLY biological father alive.

But don't want him to leave cause the child doesn't want to move? ROFL Glad the U.S. didn't snatch me away all those times I didn't want my parents to move me. What a sad, sick system over there.

Also, funny that what the child wanted DID NOT matter when Sean was first kidnapped. Hmm...why not just ask Sean if he wanted to go home after he was taken over there. Hypocritical nationalists. i hope the captain sets his phaser to kill.
Did Shelly Kirka bark? Au....Au....Au....
written by ...., April 05, 2009
“Costinha, you chauvinistic, mentally unstable, cultural bigot”

Would you stop it! Shelly has a husband and a vibrador - neither one works.

Shelly Kirka, the one with delusions of adequacy, love you babe!

Costinha

PS: “Kirka” is pretty close to the pejorative ethnic slur “Kike”
I am quite confident
written by ...., April 05, 2009
The the Brasilian Federal court will come to the conclusion that Sean Goldman is better served by remaining in Brasil, where he belongs and the right decision in this case.

Just imagine, Sean, presently surrounded by love and with all his needs met, moving in with the unstable David Goldman, one that can not even hold a full time job. There is no comparison!

Sean will stay in Brasil, with the family he loves. David Goldman, soon or later you will get yours.

Costinha

PS: And before I forget, Shelly Kirka....Up Yours too!


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written by Captain Kirk, April 05, 2009
OK Costinha, I've asked several times for you to wager that idiot swagger of yours and you have not only retreated, tale between legs, but you don't even dare mention it. That's simply cowardly, but it also shows that your horse in this race has no chance, and you know it.

I have no doubt whatsoever that this case has already been resolved, and Sean will head to the US. I doubt a custody hearing will even be held in NJ as required by the Hague, becasue by this point the Lins e Silva family knows their smears and smarmy carioca Judge-purchasing bulls**t wont fly in the US.

The only reason we've not heard about the decision yet, I'm thinking, is that Brazil has asked for some time, to let heated nationalist heads cool in Rio, or to wait for the next scandal, where they will announce the decision silently, with no fanfare, probably on a Friday evening, just to save face.

So sunshine, put up or shut up. If Sean heads back to the US, you head out of here, never to return to this forum again, whether as Costinha, Tom, Don, Laura, Shelly2 or any of your other split personalities.

Deal?
PS: And before I forget, Shelly Kirka....Up Yours too!
written by Captain Kirk, April 05, 2009
You still think I'm Shelly?

How's that for projecting! lol.
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written by Captain Kirk, April 05, 2009
Justicebrazil

It's like Brazilians don't realize that 9 year old boys move EVERY DAY, even though they don't want to.


It's not all Brazilians, thankfully, and our proof is in Grace's lovely heartfelt post above. Brazil is a nation filled with wonderful people who are not only tired of the rich tossing their money and influence around to buy and or manipulate whatever strikes their fancies, but they are just as tired of the ugly, loud, smarmy playboys, pitbulls and glue-heads as well. You know the ones; tattoos on necks, talking with their mouths filled, Neanderthal-looking, knuckle dragging dregs of Brazilian society. Both these groups tend to get what they want using either influence or violence. And most Brazilians are just plain fed up with them.

There are also some blind raging nationalists in Brazil, but every nation has them. And like everywhere in the world, they're too stupid to be taken seriously, although they are a nuisance and do make noise.

Costinha is def. a smarmy a*****e, and he def has those nationalistic idiot tendencies but he differs from all groups because he's also seriously mentally disturbed. Clinically insane and pathological I would guess.

His hatred for women and foreigners is well documented here. And it's a matter of time before he blows.

That said, let's not call all Brazilians out on this one issues and lump them altogether, like Grace has so eloquently written, this case makes the decent in Brazil just as mad as everyone else.
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 05, 2009
Good call, Captain. My wife is from Brazil and she's probably more outraged than me. On another place I discussed this I actually had one person email me with the following contradiction: First, he said biology rules and the mother, regardless of ANY factors or what the child wants gets custody.

THEN he said that now it is whatever the child wants and doesn't matter who the biological father is.

I mean, seriously, if Brazil was concerned with what the child wanted or what was best for the child then within weeks they would have sent him home. Instead they entertained frivolous motions!

So before it was the child needs to be with his mother. Now it's the child needs to be where he wants. lol. Let's just call a spade a spade, the nationalists hate to lose, even if they're dealing with a HUMAN. Give the child to his real father, let him go back to his home, and a year from now he'll be as happy as can be.

And anyone that thinks that money can replace the bond between a father and a child are naive. Like an IPOD is really what is gonna matter to him when he looks back at age 25. lol Naive
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written by Captain Kirk, April 05, 2009
Good points JB. My wife too is simply livid about this. As are many around the world.

I think what many of the dig-heels-in-sand nationalists are forgetting is that this is not a simple Brazil vs. the US issue. Why are so many people from other nations getting involved in this case, my self included? It is because this is an issue of child abduction which happens far too often, everywhere, and when you start letting one nation thumb their nose at the Hague Convention (something parents of kidnapped children the world over have fought to maintain) out of simple petty xenophobic spite for another Nation, or corruption, with no real concern for the child, then the fear is the convention is not worth the paper it was printed on.

For those who fought tirelessly, to bring about some justice in the world; for those who helped create and implement this very important international accord, this case is indeed a watershed moment for many. It will also be precedent setting; and for a nation looking for a permanent seat on the UN security council, telling an important UN initiative involving abducted children to "fudge off", well, I'm fairly certain this is not the precedent Brazil wants to set.

Again, I'm certain this case has been resolved, but there is, as always in Brazil, an "image" or egg-on-face concern. They'll keep mum about it until they think no one in Brazil is paying attention anymore, and then send Sean off via the back door. It's all damage control now.
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 06, 2009
Exactly right Mr. Kirk. I create a family here with my wife and children (when we have children). Do I want my children to lose their home, culture, language and ME (and there are also my rights as well, do I want to be unethically deprived of them?)due to nationalism? Yet I want my future kids to be able to see their grandparents and uncle in Brazil. But with the way Brazil has it now how can I let them go to Brazil when they can be harmed and I can be harmed, injustice done and laws violated, and Brazil just stand by?

I have to protect my children, so how this case ends will determine if my family ever goes to Brazil. Which is sad. Of course I'll gladly pay for my in-laws to come here, because here there are laws. Hopefully in Brazil there will be laws too, I hold my breath and wait.
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written by .., April 06, 2009
Exactly right Mr. Kirk. I create a family here with my wife and children (when we have children). Do I want my children to lose their home, culture, language and ME (and there are also my rights as well, do I want to be unethically deprived of them?)due to nationalism? Yet I want my future kids to be able to see their grandparents and uncle in Brazil. But with the way Brazil has it now how can I let them go to Brazil when they can be harmed and I can be harmed, injustice done and laws violated, and Brazil just stand by?


Pathetic comments.Not worth a rebuttal. Are you a legal in whichever country you are wailing from?
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 06, 2009
Not worth a rebuttal is not synonymous with incapable of rebutting. I've actually been waiting for a few days for someone to formulate even an attempt at an argument for retaining the abducted child. I still wait.....doesn't look like that's going to end.
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written by .., April 06, 2009
I've actually been waiting for a few days for someone to formulate even an attempt at an argument for retaining the abducted child. I still wait.....doesn't look like that's going to end.


AND, I have been waiting for hours to receive an answer from you as to which country you are wailing from.
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 06, 2009
Ok, so your question is irrelevant to the topic while mine is on point. Therefore you should not expect an answer while I should.

Simple enough.

Considering simple doesn't work with you though, give me a moment to draw a picture on Paint.

So, on the topic of Sean Goldman, anyone brave enough to defend the abduction first by Bruna and second by the Brazilian government?
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written by Observador, April 06, 2009
Yeah Venezuela it's definitely not like Brazil. Corruption isn't half as bad in Venezuela as it is in Brazil.
David Goldman’s Synagogue is out!
written by ..., April 06, 2009
The reinforcements have arrived…. All those precious little jews from NY are ready to do battle, in honor of their comrade, Rabi David Goldman.

Shelly Kirka:

Bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla….. and then some.

I don’t want to listen to your senseless uber-babble. Your verbiage is more inflated than your dad’s blow-up doll of Denis Rodman. Besides, talk to someone who cares!

Listen here little squealing bellied pig… Quantity of words does not make it come true. Also, words can't describe how fugly you are either…. so I'll just throw up!

Shelly Kirka, Jesus loves you. Everyone else thinks you're a (……o……)

JusticeBrazil:

Ahhhh…. You are just a plain (……o……)

Observador:

I bet you're really happy you crawled out of your hole to say that. Please deprive me of your company.

I'd tell you to go f.u.c.k. yourself and the horse you rode in on, but looking at that stupid grin on your face, I'd say you already have.


Hugs,

Costinha

PS: Moral of the story: Sean Goldman will remain with his family in Brasil.



Freaking Americans (……o……) s
written by ..., April 06, 2009
Americans are signatories of many many many many… international agreements and treaties, and the champion of their violations, unless of course, it is convenient for them.

The more serious violations involve “torture” of suspects. So precious little americans, put your money where your mouth is… f**********.s.

They (David’s synagogue keyboard commandos) are trying to make Sean’s custody as some type of international treaty dispute. It is not!

Putting it simply, here we have a jewish american father that has never shown any love for his son unless in front of cameras, wanting attention and prominence, and using the custody fight as his way to have the last word. As far as he is concerned, Sean’s feelings Do Not Count. David, get a job!

I am very confident that the Brasilian court will reach the right decision and let Sean, live his life with his family in Brasil, where he belongs.

Costinha
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written by Captain Kirk, April 06, 2009
PS: “Kirka” is pretty close to the pejorative ethnic slur “Kike”


The reinforcements have arrived…. All those precious little jews from NY are ready to do battle, in honor of their comrade, Rabi David Goldman.


Wow, not only is the mentally unstable Costinha a misogynist pig he's antisemitic, too! He certainly possesses a lot of hatred for such a wee-tiny widdle coward.

How about that wager Costinha?

Sean Goldman will remain with his family in Brasil.


Sean has no family in Brazil, but he does have a father in the US. And like I've written, I'd wager he that he should be heading home any time soon. How about you trutinho? wanna take the bet?

Now go away and let the adults talk. I'm not sorry in the least you can't read through an entire paragraph without your attention wandering away, that's your issue. Given your mental instability, not surprising either.

But, just for s.h.its n giggles type "Blah" a few more times. lol. That certainly helped convince everyone here just how mature and sage you are. lol. Back to the boteco for you!
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 06, 2009
Sean’s custody as some type of international treaty dispute.
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uh...that's cause it is.

How foolish to say that David never showed love for the son that he cared so much for that he spent the last 5 years spending thousands of dollars to combat one of the most corrupt systems in the known world. That was while Bruna was still alive!! You KNOW that the corrupt judges there weren't going to do anything.

Then the biological mother dies and they STILL don't let the father get the son? They let Bruna's lover and 10 month husband take the boy? Further, this strange male has people tape recording what the boy tells his real father? I hope someone is looking into the details of Lins e silva's relationship and why he is so scared to let the child talk to his real father.

Sad day indeed when Brazil aids the abduction of a child.

And Kirk, I'm surprised you respond to Costinha, considering there is nothing of substance in the posts.

And since I"m new here, does any argument of substance get put forth, or is it just "we in Brazil know what best for boy, boy need stay with us so have ipod, ipod nice. so he stay. you lose we win. haha, no relation with real dad, just mommy rich lover, buh bye"
Hehehehe..... Yhawwwwwwwwwwwwww!
written by ...., April 06, 2009
Captain Kirka and JusticeBrazil

You freaks got wrong names…. Should be “Captain America” & “InjusticeUSA

Do you freaks always come in pairs??? Who am I calling stupid??? I don't know. What's your name??? The real question is….. Who is AC or DC???

Captain America & InjusticeUSA … The sum of their “IQ”s (Ignorance Quotient) is quite high…. Hehehehe! Talk to someone who cares, whining little bit.ches!

Yours,

Costinha

PS: The boy (Sean Goldman) will remain in Brasil, with his family and where he belongs.
JB
written by Captain Kirk, April 06, 2009
And Kirk, I'm surprised you respond to Costinha, considering there is nothing of substance in the posts.


You're right JB, but it's nice to draw out the nationalists and watch them get tangled in their own web of foolery and idiocy.

You've seen the basic argument here. Someone from America tortured some poor sob from wherever, so that now gives license to Brazil to start stealing children. smilies/cry.gif It's up there in black and white for all to see. You can't make this stuff up. Only from the mind of a warped nationalist psychopath can such justification over breaking an international treaty ever be entertained. But there you go. Classic nationalist ideation at it's best.

you see JB, the more nationalism is exposed, as well as its bedfellows, racism, sexism and antisemitism (Costinha is linked indisp**ably to two of these ISMs), the easier it is to keep it in check. Having Costina dance around like an organ grinder's monkey is not only good for a laugh or six, it also shows the lurkers out there just how pathetic the other side of this debate is, and highlights the mentality of the Lins e Silva's supporters. Call it "bearing witness to ignorance".
Captain America....
written by ..., April 06, 2009
I don't think your carpeting matches your drapes... Hehehe

Up yours,

Costa
Capatin American
written by ..., April 06, 2009
Inconsequential, ugly and gay....

Costinha
Captain America
written by ..., April 06, 2009
The giant rolling turd on the sand dune.

Costa

Hehehe.... Yahoooooooooooooooo.....
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written by Captain Kirk, April 06, 2009
The giant rolling turd on the sand dune.


I rest my case... smilies/cheesy.gif
For the Grown-Ups now…
written by ..., April 06, 2009
There was a report on TV this morning mentioning that the Sean Goldman’s case is getting close to a final decision.

According to the reporter (and her inside contact), the case is making more sense to leave Sean in Brasil, in lieu of his psychological well-being.

Sean’s family, has shown to the court that the boy will be better served by staying in Brasil, instead of pulling him out from a stable environment to unstable setting in the US, with his biological father, Rabi David Goldman.

I myself, feel quite confident that the child will be allowed to remain with his loved ones.

Costinha

PS: Yes... Yes!
JB
written by Shelly1, April 06, 2009
I would really think twice about letting your kids get a Brazilian citizenship. In Brazil, they are also considered Brazilians even if you don't agree. If a child has one parent from Brazil, he is automatically Brazilian. Now, the father has to go in person to the local embassy to sign a form, allowing the child to have a Brazilian passport and get every single paper and signature recognized by a notary. If your kid wants to visit Brazil, you will need to do two things, one sign a "procuracao" allowing your wife or other caretaker to take responsibility for your (in case anything happens), two a "viagem de menor" (which is a travel form for minors in Brazil). Dave did sign both forms in good faith, he had to. Brazil does not allow kids to enter or leave without both parents agreeing to it.

As you see, there is plenty of room for a kidnapping to occur. Dave probably gave a time frame for Sean to return. In the form "viagem de menor" it has a space for date entering and return date. So unless you have a wife like myself and Grace, I would not even consider visiting Brazil. If you feel your wife is against David, it is a warning. However, you mentioned that she is upset with this, but just be careful. Once you give a travel authorization for you child (in the future) spell out that you are giving the authorization in good faith and that you expect them to return to (fill blank). Get a notary and the embassy personnel to verify and all signed forms. It is better be safe than sorry. There are more kids in the same situation in Brazil, Sean is not the only one.

Brazil is a country where the rich has a green light to corrupt, rob, and kill. All countries are like that, we have similar issues in the States, but I have yet to see a politician go to jail for high corruption charges.

I gave you my two cents, just be careful.

Two things will happen. Sean will return home. The Lins et al. kidnappers won't see one day in jail.

Justice does not exist in Brazil.
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written by Adriana L, April 06, 2009
All I learned after all this international barraco was: never is too much to be cautious with an American spouse! I read the magazine article and I may be wrong but the yank guy sounds a gold-digger. I hope I'm wrong but the series of facts and actions convinced me so. Too bad for Sean being in the middle of this sad battle. If the father really loved the child he wouldnt make this boy go through this war. Love like this is everything, possession, narcissism, but love. Don't be hypocritical.
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written by Adriana L, April 06, 2009
Sean has no family in Brazil, but he does have a father in the US. And like I've written, I'd wager he that he should be heading home any time soon. How about you trutinho? wanna take the bet?


I'm sorry but what his mother's relatives in RJ are? Why people have to be so unfairly irrational?
Captain Kirk
written by Adriana L, April 06, 2009
My questions are :

What Sean mother's relatives in RJ are for him? Why people have to be so unfairly irrational?
Captain Kirk
written by Adriana L, April 06, 2009
My questions are :

What Sean mother's relatives in RJ are for him? Why people have to be so unfairly irrational?
Shelly…. The Smelliest Pork in the Barn
written by ...., April 07, 2009
Captain America and Shelly (one of the same) attend the same Synagogue. Hyah Banga!

Shelly, you just don’t change your old ways, do you? The only reason your marriage survives is because you are not married to a real man, but a anesthetized prick. And now, giving other bad marriage counseling:

I would not even consider visiting Brazil. If you feel your wife is against David, it is a warning. However, you mentioned that she is upset with this, but just be careful.


If his wife knew what you are doing, she’d probably wack you over the head.

Back to Sean. God is great…. He won’t allow the gold-digger rabbi David Goldman to get custody of the child, on behalf of Sean. I can’t wait for the day!

Luv U All,

Costinha
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 07, 2009
Having Costina dance around like an organ grinder's monkey is not only good for a laugh or six, it also shows the lurkers out there just how pathetic the other side of this debate is, and highlights the mentality of the Lins e Silva's supporters. Call it "bearing witness to ignorance


Can't argue with that. They have no legal argument, nor do they pretend to. But on top of this lack of legal argument they don't even bring a logical argument! They argue the boy needs to be with his family (same argument we make) but logically conclude that family means extended family and not immediate.

What?

They argue that the american culture would be weird for him....umm, if anything he'd find it much easier to adapt to the country, culture and language he was born and raised with, IN the presence of his only immediate family parent, than he was able to WHEN he was kidnapped to Brazil. I mean, come on, is consistency too much to ask for here?

I'm just can't express how stupid the other side's argument is. And it is ludicrous that people actually support it!! You wouldn't think that asking for consistency and logic in explaining why would be too much.
Oh wow look at the neat TV I got in exchange for a relationship with my Father!
written by JusticeBrazil, April 07, 2009
So unless you have a wife like myself and Grace, I would not even consider visiting Brazil. If you feel your wife is against David, it is a warning. However, you mentioned that she is upset with this, but just be careful. Once you give a travel authorization for you child (in the future) spell out that you are giving the authorization in good faith and that you expect them to return to (fill blank). Get a notary and the embassy personnel to verify and all signed forms. It is better be safe than sorry. There are more kids in the same situation in Brazil, Sean is not the only one.


Thank you, Shelly.

Yes my wife is very upset by this. And no, costinha, reading the above did not upset her in the least bit...since it is common sense. My problem with this is that I don't see how a notary and embassy personnel would help in any way. All my wife would have to do is raise frivolous motions to keep it in the courts for around a year, then even if the court did say "oh yeah, he should have been returned" they'd just conclude the same as with sean and you'd get the "BUT we think he should stay in Brazil anyway."


And since they have a corrupt independent judicial system our courts and embassy and notaries and witnesses and documents and contracts would be meaningless.

What Costinha and other Lins e Silva supporters don't understand is that there is NO right without a remedy. In this case they said "oh yeah David had a right to Sean that was broken, but we grant no remedy." And that makes no sense. They'll just do the same thing with me or anyone else. So until there are real laws in Brazil on this issue...I just am going to have to bring my inlaws here. Which is SAD, because unlike Costinha and lins e silva I want my kids to enjoy both cultures.

But I won't risk that by harming my child by letting him be taken to a new culture, with new people and a new language and be forced to call mommy's new lover daddy. Yeah, I won't let my kids be harmed like that and I feel so bad for Sean and David.

of course, like Lins e Silva supporters say, they can buy him an ipod and big screen TV!! David just has a nice house and boats, but not hundreds of thousands to buy the kid whatever he wants!! When he's 25 he's gonna be like "oh yeah, i was taken from my dad but I got a nice remote control car" NO, to lins e silva idiots, he's going to say "WTF? The reason I was forced from my home, my culture my language and my Father was cause my mother wanted to go run away with her Lover in Brazil? And no one saw a problem with this? And when my mom died I get stuck with her lover, just cause he buys me big toys? WTF???????"

Get a grip, this case really gets me.
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 07, 2009
What Sean mother's relatives in RJ are for him? Why people have to be so unfairly irrational?

Sean's Father's relatives in the USA are for him. Sean's Father and only living parent is for him in the USA. Sean's mother's relatives helped kidnap him and PLACE HIM IN THIS SITUATION.

They have proved NOT to have Sean's best interest in mind. Lins e Silva claimed to talk to Bruna BEFORE she left the USA. He LITIGATED against Sean's interest when he was first abducted. He does NOT have Sean's best interest in mind.

ONLY Sean's Parent and paternal extended family have EVER shown an interest in Sean.

I can't believe someone would support abducting their children away from everything they knew just so she could be with her lover. How sick for the kid.
JB
written by Shelly1, April 07, 2009
This case gets me too. Funny it seems the Lins supporter and Adriana L. mentioned this:

All I learned after all this international barraco was: never is too much to be cautious with an American spouse! I read the magazine article and I may be wrong but the yank guy sounds a gold-digger. I hope I'm wrong but the series of facts and actions convinced me so. Too bad for Sean being in the middle of this sad battle. If the father really loved the child he wouldnt make this boy go through this war. Love like this is everything, possession, narcissism, but love. Don't be hypocritical.


The barraco began when the gold-digger Bruna, may she never rest in peace, kidnapped her son. The barraco began when she decided to lie to David. What she didn't count was on David's perseverance to get HIS SON BACK, HIS SON, NOT YOURS OR MINE.

Who put Sean on this? Bruna.
Who is damaging Sean even 6 feet under? Bruna.
Who lied and went back to Brazil to be with her lover without due regard of her son? Bruna.

David is doing what you would do for you son, what any loving father would do for his child. I commend him and hope he gets his son from this vermin infested home. The child is living with CRIMINALS. The family, every single one is a KIDNAPPER.

That is something that they will have to live with. And yes JB, if Sean ends up in Brazil, he will learn about it and hate this cruel, crime ridden country.

Now, Adriana asks us not to be hypocritical. That is typical of a brazilian who does not like to live by the laws of her/his own country and conventions signed by said nation. Hypocrisy is what the judicial system is doing in this case, keeping a kidnaped child in a home of a lawyer who has for many times gone against such cases.

Lins et al are the typical rich Brazilian family, they believe they are above the law.

Justice in Brazil will always be for sale.


JB
written by Shelly1, April 07, 2009
I only gave you an idea about the notary. Nobody will then tell you that they didn't know of your intentions. By putting in writing that you expect your son/daughter to be back is explicit. I understand that in Brazil this is not understood (wink), but in America it will. I truly hope it never happens to you, but if it does, you will have a bigger crew behind you.

If you don't feel secure about your wife taking your kids to BR, you are right, pay for the relatives to go and visit you. Wait until they are at least 8/9 years old. In case anything happens, the courts in Brazil will then have to get a public certified translator, it will be harder for them make up s**t as they have with Sean's case.

Peace smilies/wink.gif
To the Synagogue Commandos
written by ...., April 07, 2009
Go ahead and scream all you want, relentless…. Makes no difference, the decision of Sean’s future remains with the Brasilian court. Early indications show that they are about to do the only right thing, Sean will stay home in Brasil with his family.

Captain America PLUS InjusticeUSA PLUS Shelly (Jewish Queen Wannabe) EQUALS to nothing, I mean, 3 little purring jews!

Stop whining like an old jewish whore. I can't be bothered to slap you all about your wrinkled gin-ravaged face any longer - it's too easy. It's either silence or Armageddon, chuckleheads.

Hayah Banga again to my 3 little jews,

Costinha


Hehehe
Oh... I almost forgot...
written by ..., April 07, 2009
Piece smilies/wink.gif

Hehehe
InjusticeUSA says:
written by ..., April 07, 2009
“be forced to call mommy's new lover daddy”

I thought that was precisely what your kids call your next-door neighbor… Oh oh!

There is something real fishy around here!

Costa
JB - Fixed
written by ..., April 07, 2009
written by Shelly1, April 06, 2009

I only gave you a criteria about the rotary. Somebody will then tell you that they didn't know of your abstentions. By pudding in biting that you checked your son/daughter to be back is illicit. I expand that in Brazil this is not understood (sink), but in America it chill. I julie dope it clever happens to you, but if it buzz, you will have a vigor jew blind you.

If you don't feel pure about your life taking your kids to US, you are white, pray for the relatives to throw and exquisite you. Wait until they are at least 8/9 cheers cold. In case anything weapons, the shorts in Brazil will then have to get a republic certified waiter, it will be harder for them bake up s**t as they half with Sean's brace.

Piece smilies/wink.gif
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written by Câmara, April 07, 2009
Honestly I don't think Sean Goldman will return to his father. At least, not for now.The kid is not very lucky, he got stuck with a really selfish group of people. If Sean's stepfather and grandparents really cared about his well- being they would have suggested David to move to Brazil for awhile and allow him to go over their home and hang out with Sean as much as possible. So that they could build a bond together again until David and Sean thought it was the right time to go back home. If Bruna's parents were righteous folk they'd have never helped their daughter commit this crime. Even if David was a bad husband, which by the recordings I heard he wasn't, Bruna's parents wanting to support her would have gone to the USA and solved everything THERE. They would have done things like grown ups but no, They didn't think that their daughter was spoiled enough so they helped her get whatever she wanted once more.
This case upsets me because it represents everything I don't stand for. If the Lins & Silva wins it is a great loss for Brazil and for the honest brazilian citizens who get represented by these type of people and this flawed justice system. It is heartbreaking.
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written by Captain Kirk, April 07, 2009
Captain America PLUS InjusticeUSA PLUS Shelly (Jewish Queen Wannabe) EQUALS to nothing, I mean, 3 little purring jews!

Stop whining like an old jewish whore. I can't be bothered to slap you all about your wrinkled gin-ravaged face any longer - it's too easy. It's either silence or Armageddon, chuckleheads.


And this from the culture in which Sean's captors argue will benefit him most? Costinha is simply a misogynist antisemitic xenophobe, but sadly almost indistinguishable from many other knuckle dragging malandros you'll find terrorizing that once lovely city of Rio. btw, Costa, that's quite the accomplishment, spewing such hate, hitting so many distinct groups while using such few words. Stormfront would be proud of you.

By the way, I'm not American or Jewish, although I proudly call many from both groups friends. I also have many Brazilian friends and this is why I know that although brazil has it's problems, not all in that Nation are as acidic, thick and mephitic as you. Actually, you are probably hated more by them, for the harm to Brazil's image your ignorance causes, then the gringo posters on this blog your try an taunt. That's one to grow on.

By the way how about our wager? Why don't you put your money where your potty-mouth is, trutinho? lol.

Shelly Wrote
The barraco began when the gold-digger Bruna, may she never rest in peace, kidnapped her son. The barraco began when she decided to lie to David. What she didn't count was on David's perseverance to get HIS SON BACK, HIS SON, NOT YOURS OR MINE.


Funny how that little piece of history slips by the Lins and Silva's supporters? But again, nationalists are not rational thinkers. Actually to even class them as thinkers, poor thinkers even, would be a erroneous. Their rhetoric is "programmed" they have no individually developed ideas. NONE. It's just rehashed O Globo soundbytes written by Papae Lins e Silva.

Honestly I don't think Sean Goldman will return to his father. At least, not for now.The kid is not very lucky, he got stuck with a really selfish group of people.


Camera, no and yes. He will eventually go back to the US. The Hague treaty is not about giving custody, it's about making sure a custody hearing takes place in the child's country of residence prior to his abduction. The Lins family knows this VERY well because they've argued OTHER international custody hearings successfully using this very convention. Papae Lins e Silva was even captured ON TAPE (from years earlier) lecturing about the virtues of treaty and how Brazil MUST ABIDE! A typical hypocrite, and a character flaw that I hope will be addressed in the courts.

Now that there is this much international attention over the case, the Judge (at a federal level where they are a tad more difficult, but not impossible, to buy off) will have to examine the hypocrisy of the Lins e Silva family, and will no doubt be forced, through Lins and Silva's very own legal PRECENDENTS, to side with the convention. It's already in the cards. Citing PSYCHOLOGICAL trauma is hogwash, or no court in Brazil could ever again allow another divorce on the grounds that uprooting a child would be too stressful.

But I do agree that Sean is very unlucky to have been born to such a greedy "mariapassaporte", that wed into a family of thieves and charlatans. Not that I'm a spiritual individual by any stretch of the imagination, but "Karma's a bitch". The Lins and Silva family should take a stroll to Bruna's tomb and reflect on this before hurting this poor child any further in captivity.
Captain Amerika… Mission Accomplished… Huh!
written by ..., April 07, 2009
Just like the Bush baby… What is your next mission to save the world???

Don’t forget in your next journey to take “InjusticeUSA” and “Shelly Smelly” along with you. They will quickly adapt and spread their germs in that new land.

That’s the green thing to do, recycle your trash!

Hugs,

Costinha

Hehehe
The Hague treaty is not about giving custody...
written by ..., April 07, 2009
Keep dreamin... problematic child!

Huggies... El Capitona Amerika!

FU

Costa
Rabbi David Goldman was bought out!
written by ..., April 07, 2009
He was paid in cash, by the maternal biological grandparents, a sum over 100K dollars.

Isn't that typical or what?

Costa
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written by Captain Kirk, April 07, 2009
Just like the Bush baby… What is your next mission to save the world???


Like I said, he's simply a raving mad anti American xenophobe. What on earth, Costinha, does BUSH have to do with this? smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/cheesy.gif

Do they not let you watch international news in the institution where you're being treated? Or is it just the morning O globo show with the talking parrot that feeds you your current affairs? lol. He's a juicy nugget of news from 2009, the US has a new President. smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/cheesy.gif Check him out, he even banned torture already.

Poor Sean, just image being surrounded by this level of ignorance each day. Talk about suffering. smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/cheesy.gif

How about our wager truthinho?
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written by Captain Kirk, April 07, 2009


We now know the origins of Costinha's potty-mouth. smilies/grin.gif
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written by Captain Kirk, April 07, 2009
He was paid in cash, by the maternal biological grandparents, a sum over 100K dollars.


Exchanging suitcases full of cash is common in Rio, whether to buy off politicians, Judges, Police Chiefs, or whomever. So what you're saying here is that the Lins e Silva familia openly admits to buying favors and skirting legal procedures using cash payments?

Interesting.
Captain Amerika staying in shape.
written by .., April 07, 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related

I knew you were full of s.h.i.t. but damn…Hehehe

Costa
Captain kirk
written by Shelly1, April 07, 2009
I love the photo, man that was classic!

Now, back to the conversation, some people here, like Camara have interesting points smilies/wink.gif

Camara's quote:

If Sean's stepfather and grandparents really cared about his well- being they would have suggested David to move to Brazil for awhile and allow him to go over their home and hang out with Sean as much as possible.


Camara, part of me says that this would be a good comprimise (that's my heart, being a soft person); however, my other more logical side, says that this is really a wrong thing to do. It sets a precedence for other cases. Why should Dave compromise when he and Sean are the victims? Is it true to say that we, as a society, like to punish those who did nothing wrong?

Why should he compromise with a bunch of criminals, lying, cheating group of "I-can-buy-justice" people? Would you make an agreement with criminals? I certainly would not.

Some people have principals and some don't, this family has belongs with the latter group of individuals who think they are above the law of the land.
Kirk
written by Shelly1, April 07, 2009
Brazil will never have a president like Obama. The greatness about this country is that Americans voted and Bush is out. There will be many Bush like creatures as Brazil's president, but I have yet to see anyone coming close to Obama in poise, intelligence, charisma. I love our new leader and his wife is just a darling.

Only in America can a son of an African immigrant, a mixed race child, rise to the top, by HONEST MEANS and become a president of this great nation. Yes, America has a lot of faults, but I would much rather be here than anywhere else.

Costinha is just pissed that he has to live with an ignorant, classless demagogue. He was educated during the dictatorship, his vision about the world is clouded by the educational books given by the military to all schools during the coup d'etat. I have seen those books, they are very simple, short, and inaccurate.

Have you seen the news about the quality of the Brazilian books in geography, Portuguese language, history, and maths?

Who is really dumb here?

God bless this country!
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Shelly1
written by Câmara, April 07, 2009
Why should Dave compromise when he and Sean are the victims? Is it true to say that we, as a society, like to punish those who did nothing wrong?
Why should he compromise with a bunch of criminals, lying, cheating group of "I-can-buy-justice" people? Would you make an agreement with criminals? I certainly would not.


l meant that if the Bianchis and the Lins & Silva had Sean's happiness as their main goal they'd have done at least that.Now that the damage is already done, that Sean apparently has strong bonds with his grandparents, that he has been living in Brazil for 4 years, I believe that the transition of his return back to America should be slower paced, after all that child has feelings and those feelings have already been hurt once.But not at any moment I agree with their behavior, Sean belongs to the father.
Shelly1
written by Câmara, April 07, 2009
Have you seen the news about the quality of the Brazilian books in geography, Portuguese language, history, and maths?
Who is really dumb here?


This comment bothered me. I know that you might be annoyed by the Costa guy who supposedly is from Brazil...He could well be from Argentina and is just trying to make Brazil look really bad. smilies/tongue.gif You look like an open minded person, So please don't get down to his level smilies/smiley.gif.
I am Brazilian to the bone. Lived there pretty much my whole life until I moved to the U.S. which is where I've been living for the last couple of years. I consider myself a ''real patriot'' which is different from being an idiot who nods positively at whatever outrageous action her country does. I criticize Brazil sometimes and I admit our defeats. A lot needs to be changed but we are doing it, slowly, but we are.

Our education and our books are not as bad as you seem to think. We've had incredible minds in our country. People that really made a difference. Honestly I think that the common American person is FAR behind in Geography than a Brazilian is. Brazil is the greatest country in Latin America yet I can count on my fingers the Americans I've met that knew that the capital of Brazil was Brasilia or that were at least sure that it wasn't Buenos Aires, that we spoke Portuguese and not Spanish, That we had Christmas (Hard to imagine the biggest Catholic country in the world not celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ.) ,etc. People with the intelligence of a jelly bean are everywhere, my friend.

I voted as soon as I was allowed by law to, at 16. And I voted for Lula. He was the man of the poor. Bad qualities aside, He has done good things for the poor. I have seen it happen. Brazil won't perfectly change in 8 or 20 years. It will take a long time but it will happen. I feel Lula started that change.

As far as Obama, haha. It's too early to say. But one thing is obvious, Sean needs to go back to David.
Shelly…. A Judia Mentirosa
written by ...`, April 07, 2009
Shelly says: “maths”…. Huh? I know of math, or perhaps mathematics!

So… Who is really dumb here? You my darling, Shelly, the Jewish America Princess, JAP for short.




- Shelly Is The One On The Right -

Luv U Fugly,

Costa
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written by hurray, April 07, 2009
Camara
written by Shelly1, April 07, 2009
Sean apparently has strong bonds with his grandparents, that he has been living in Brazil for 4 years, I believe that the transition of his return back to America should be slower paced, after all that child has feelings and those feelings have already been hurt once


I agree with you, but the point is that he has been with the grandparents and Lins illegally. We have to stop and look at the law, I know it is hard to separate the two, but once you get through it, what is best for Sean then is quite simple. I wonder who will pay for David to stay for the transition, I would sue the family for damages and lost wages. David will never trust them again, in the U.S. if he doesn't want the RELATIVES, NOT FAMILY to see him, he could well do just that. We have a problem in Brazil and most SA countries. Relatives are not part of your immediate family, I can see why people think he is doing well there. Sean has a father. A family is a nuclear entity consisting of a Father/Mother Son/Daughter, NOT grandparents or uncles, let alone a "STEP-FATHER". Legally Lins is NOT responsible for the upbringing of this child. LINS is nothing more, nothing less than a STRANGER raising someone else's child. The fact that he has a half-sister doesn't make Lins anymore than a stranger in the eyes of the court system. The child has connection through the deceased mother, not the father.

What is best for Sean? Obviously everyone here wants this kid to have a happy life. However, I can assure you that in Brazil he'll grow up known as the kidnapped child who lives with criminals. Internationally he will carry the same legacy. The best thing for Sean is to be with his biological father, a person who continues to fight for him despite the corrupt Brazilian judicial system.

Sean's life changed for the worst when his grandparents along with Bruna lied to David. Once a liar, always a liar. Sean's life is forever changed because his grandparent's criminal behavior. I don't care if this kid has been in Brazil for 4 year or 6 years, he has been there against his father's wishes and was kidnapped. Period. A crime, perpetrated once again by the Brazilian upper class. Brazil as you know is a safe haven for criminals, no wonder he has been there for the past 4 years. He has been in Brazil for the past four years not because his father allowed, but because of the incompetent courts in Rio.

I think the quicker this happens, the better it will be for the child.
Shelly…. A Judia Mentirosa (pic included)
written by mustafafa, April 07, 2009
Shelly says: “maths”…. Huh? I know of math, or perhaps mathematics!

So… Who is really dumb here? You my darling, Shelly, the Jewish America Princess, JAP for short.




Shelly Is The One On The Right. What a Cutie!

Luv U Fugly,

Costa
Shelly.... Quit Lying thru your brown stained Teeth...
written by mustafafa, April 07, 2009
You take the lies out of her, and she'll shrink to the size of your toe; you take the malice out of her, and she'll disappear.

Shelly… the conscious of none

Pau na Bunda da vagaBunda.... Costa
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written by Shelly1, April 07, 2009
costinha says:

Shelly says: “maths”…. Huh? I know of math, or perhaps mathematics!


Moron, maths is plural for mathematics. In case you haven't seen this way, you are a true idiot! No wonder you learned MATH in Brazil. There is not such thing as MATH. Americans say MATH, but it not correct since Mathematics is the study of quantity, structure and space. You are such an idiot, now you have proven my point. Go back and study from the Brazilian books, you deserve it!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa

1)From the GCSE in THE U.K. :

http://www.gcse.com/maths/


2) Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics
The word "mathematics" comes from the Greek μάθημα (máthēma), which means learning, study, science, and additionally came to have the narrower and more technical meaning "mathematical study", even in Classical times. Its adjective is μαθηματικός (mathēmatikós), related to learning, or studious, which likewise further came to mean mathematical. In particular, μαθηματικὴ τέχνη (mathēmatikḗ tékhnē), in Latin ars mathematica, meant the mathematical art.
The apparent plural form in English, like the French plural form les mathématiques (and the less commonly used singular derivative la mathématique), goes back to the Latin neuter plural mathematica (Cicero), based on the Greek plural τα μαθηματικά (ta mathēmatiká), used by Aristotle, and meaning roughly "all things mathematical".[9] In English, however, the noun mathematics takes singular verb forms. It is often shortened to math in English-speaking North America and maths elsewhere.



Do us a favor, amoeba like creature, go back to your cave and practice drawing first and then try communicating with us again.

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Shelly and Captain Kirk
written by Adriana L, April 08, 2009
I don't know if you hear yourselves on these posts but try to read them aloud.Maybe it will give you the feeling of mental disturbance you are, temporarily or permanently, (who knows?), going through.


I'm sorry, you are, or were, a captain? And a captain of what, can I ask? If that is only your nick, sorry to say but it sounds quite silly for someone who leaves the impression, from your register, of being a mature man, someone is in his middle age at least?

Maths
written by Adriana L, April 08, 2009
Shelly
While you are at that, don't you live in America, the country you quite, or fairly venerate, depending on the point of view, why on earth do you use the British informal form when Americans use just math ?
That will be a funny one smilies/cheesy.gif
Moron, “maths” is plural for mathematics…. Hehehe
written by ..., April 08, 2009
That’s what happens when you read Florist A$$ Brown’s posts too often… You simply lose it. In your case Shelly, you never had it!

There is no such thing as “MATHS,” in Brasil, the US or anywhere else. In fact, the word Mathematics is always in its singular form. It almost sounds like George Bush saying “the internets.”

Shelly…. It's dire, your incomprehensible stupidity rather than plain dumb ignorance?

Beijos,

Costinha


Hehehe
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written by Adriana L, April 08, 2009
Sorry for the interruption. In my opinion it is so cheaply fake to use the artificial, defamatory, niggard argument that the woman "stole", "kidnapped" HER own child. In a divorce case, the woman has the priority over the man to keep her children. The couple had marital problems and Bruna was unhappy in her marriage. As this story can prove, the guy would not give her divorce or leave her in peace, the guy is a global loser to everyone to see. I am sure she thought of what was best for the boy. What decent person would receive money to leave his family in peace? Anyone who denies this couple was unhappy in this marriage either is a boboca, someone who probably can't admit their own marriage failure, or can't witness their American butt being kicked for the whole world to see. Who cares if Bruna is Brazilian. The Americans and wanna bes bobocas are the only ones who think with their laughable asses.
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written by Laura, April 08, 2009
'm sorry, you are, or were, a captain? And a captain of what, can I ask?


Yes, you can. He is a senior Bell Captain for the Hiltons. About to retire and get disability pension.
Maths plural for Mathematics
written by Adriana L, April 08, 2009
Oh yeah she said that.. Shelly you've been acting like a moron indeed. smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by Adriana L, April 08, 2009
maths [ maths ]


noun,

plural noun
Definition:

U.K. ( informal )
Same as mathematics

Laura
written by Adriana L, April 08, 2009
Huh? was I supposed to laugh with this one?
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 08, 2009
In my opinion it is so cheaply fake to use the artificial, defamatory, niggard argument that the woman "stole", "kidnapped" HER own child.


In my opinion it is so cheaply fake to NOT use the word "stole", "Kidnapped" just because she has female organs.

In a divorce case, the woman has the priority over the man to keep her children. The couple had marital problems and Bruna was unhappy in her marriage.


Great, and had she not kidnapped the child and GOTTEN a divorce we wouldn't BE here right now, would we? Since she DIDN'T take the legal route, and instead ILLEGALLY kept Sean from his DOMICILE (only one domicile, that was USA)this shows just EXACTLY what type of mother we are dealing with. One so BENT on being with her lover that she'd kidnap her child away from the father she SAYS loves Sean and whom Sean loves back, away from his extended family, away from his language, away from his house away from his culture, THROWING her child into a new language, culture, house, and don't forget her new lover, for which all of this was done.

She DIDN'T move for Sean!!! She moved for herself, her recordings are CLEAR on this. But keep cheering this selfish person on, I take joy in herdeath.

This story can prove, the guy would not give her divorce or leave her in peace, the guy is a global loser to everyone to see.

NO, what the guy DIDN'T accept was how she WOULDN'T stay and get divorced and go over custody of THEIR child. Instead she kidnapped the son!! That's what he is fighting. Have you seen Bruna? She was hideous.

I am sure she thought of what was best for the boy.


Oh, well if YOU think that. How about what BRUNA said? What her grandparents said? In New Jersey court grandparents said no problem with David as a father. IN RECORDINGS and in court Bruna saying David was a GREAT Dad and Sean and him LOVED each other.

So why'd she leave? Oh cause the sex and "love" was out of the marriage. It had NOTHING to do with Sean. She STOLE him away from everything HE knew and his FATHER so she could be with her lover!! It's funny what happens when you deal with facts instead of what "you" think.

What decent person would receive money to leave his family in peace?


Huh? What decent person would GIVE money on the day of a trial for harboring a kidnapper UNLESS they were guilty. over 95% of all trials end in settlement. Don't be naive.

Anyone who denies this couple was unhappy in this marriage either is a boboca, someone who probably can't admit their own marriage failure, or can't witness their American butt being kicked for the whole world to see.

And this has to do with Sean...HOW? Let her divorce and LEGALLY settle the custody then!! WHY illegally kidnap the child from a father who SHE says loves him and is the best father SHE could have asked for? See the selfish person we're dealing with. I say brush up on the facts.

Justice Brasil yeah yeah
written by Adriana L, April 08, 2009
Great, and had she not kidnapped the child and GOTTEN a divorce we wouldn't BE here right now, would we? Since she DIDN'T take the legal route, and instead ILLEGALLY kept Sean


you're too righteous let me explain to you. Have you ever heard of "unfriendly divorce" in your life? that's what we call what you describe as a "kidnap". You fight through legal means for the child. What a niggard excuse for a "the end justifies the means" tactic. For Americans and wannabes, everything is business as usual. Say it is not!
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The guy accepted the money because he was sorta "black mailing" the family, that gets clear when he accepts the $$ tutu.


She DIDN'T move for Sean!!! She moved for herself, her recordings are CLEAR on this. But keep cheering this selfish person on, I take joy in herdeath.


what a generous person you are. Probably you are someone invested with a moral quality above us all. Kinda Papa Bento XVI. Besides you sound just like Shelly, maybe it's you Shelly cheating one more. We got you with your MATHS PLURAL FOR MATHEMATICS LOL LOL LOL
Shelly… The JAP is Busted!
written by ..., April 08, 2009
Just like her private life… the heifer on hoofs has no control of the English language either!

I nest my place,

Costinha

Hehehe
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 08, 2009
Unfriendly divorce to you is taking your son away from everything he knew and everyone he loved and making him go to a country with you so you can be with your lover?

We call that being a selfish whore here. Funny how those things work.
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 08, 2009
oh, sorry, we call that being a KIDNAPPING selfish whore. Selfish whore would just be doing that to the son legally. Since it was illegal we can't forget that important part.

So unfriendly divorce = kidnapping selfish whore.

My language is expanding.
Americans just cannot accept defeat...
written by ..., April 08, 2009
Even if the entire world says so... As far as these obnoxious north americans are concerned, the whole world is wrong, except themselves.

I expect americans to act this way, they have done so for decades now and look how many friends they have made around the world today, none. They always seem to think that somehow our blood is cheaper than theirs. They deserve no sympathy nor mercy from me or you. Payback time!

Just watch american television for a couple of hours and you will quickly learn how self-centered these idiots really are. They talk about 4000, plus or minus, soldiers dead.... How about the 1000,000s of civilian Iraquis that met the same fate? Ohhh, they never talk about that, do they?

This case is no different. The US has broken every international agreement that comes to mind, whenever it appeals to them. I find their reaction almost comical, the fact that it is up to a Brasilian court to decide on Sean Goldman's future.

I hope Sean remains in Brasil rather then suffer yet another big disappointment from his lazy biological father, a man that can not even hold a job, much less take care to this child.

Uncle Sammies....Up Yours Real Deep!

Costinha

Shelly studying Maths
written by ..., April 08, 2009
Look how happy she is in this recent picture, after figuring-out that 1 PLUS 1 EQUALS to ????



Shelly Smiling, 2009

You haven’t seen nothing… If you think Shelly’s teeth are bad, you haven’t seen her husband’s!

Costa
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written by Adriana L, April 08, 2009
Unfriendly divorce to you is taking your son away from everything he knew and everyone he loved and making him go to a country with you so you can be with your lover?


That is what this is all about? Could Goldman prove she was being unfaithful? an audible Nooooooooooooooo OK let you calculate your MATHS there. smilies/grin.gif

Great post Costinha. Dumb S AAAAAAA yuk
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 08, 2009
Uh, actually Adrianna, contrary to what the whore Bruna SAID to the courts, Lins's letter stated they were living together within SIX MONTHS of the kidnapping. Couple this with the fact that they SPOKE on the phone BEFORE she kidnapped him and it is clear what happened. Fell in love with her LOVER, talked to him, he said to kidnap the child, she did so.

It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure it out, you are just being dense on purpose. And Costinha, your english isn't good enough to try and pull off two profiles.

How about the 1000,000s of civilian Iraquis that met the same fate? Ohhh, they never talk about that, do they?


I'm assuming you are referring to Chemical Ali, Saddam and the other sadistic Iraqis that YOU and the rest of the world looked at and said "oh no, that's really naughty, oh well."

Yeah, well, guess who got rid of that problem. U.S.A. Now, maybe the end the sought wasn't this, then again maybe it was, but the POINT is that the end result is a good result.

I'd say let's go into Sudan, and back in the day Rwanda, but I"m sure that would have pissed you and the rest of the world off to. Have fun with the blood of millions on your hand, embrace your nationalism over humanity, gg.
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 08, 2009
(and yes, i know you weren't referring to saddam and ali, my point is that if you were being logical that IS who you'd be talking about)
Adriana L., costinha stupidity is rubbing off on you!
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
Dear,

Maths is used not only in the U.K. but also in New Zealand, Australia, South Africa and British territories and commonwealth nations, in the Bahamas, most of the West Indies and Cayman Islands, MATHS is used not MATH, which is WRONG!

What I meant to say and did not express myself well, my fault, was that MATHS is short for Mathematics, still plural, never it is mathematic! You cannot study mathematic, maybe you and costinha have studied such thing, but I have studied Mathematics. Now moving on because you are just being thick as a 4x4 plank. Now, dear, I bet you didn't know as well that maths is also right, which I proved my point to costinha. He is just too arrogant to admit it, not many Brazilians know this, not many Brazilians are educated, no wonder! Since you were probably educated in Brazil and from what I gathered from your previous messages, you learned from the books that were given by the dictators of Brazil, and as several reports here have mentioned, Brazil has some serious issues with its educational system and its books. All have grammatical errors, the geography issue is just a freaking joke! Less is more? Not in this case.

Adriana, I don't care if Bruna was having issues with David. She had the courts to deal with her marital problems. And you are totally wrong about the custody battle. In the States, judges decides what is best for the child, not always the mother is granted custody of her child. It depends on several factors, like the financial and the emotional means to take care of her child. If you don't have a job, the likelihood of you having sole custody is minimal. Bruna in the U.S. had none of the above, not a job and not emotional stability; therefore, she kidnapped Sean back to Brazil along with her parents. They are/were an accessory to a crime and will have to eventually deal with this issue in court.

If Bruna had issues with David, she should have gone to the courts and spared the little boy from this international circus. The point is, she kidnapped her son, period. Do you have kids? I do and if I want to visit Brazil, I have to take my husband to the embassy, have him sign a minor travel form in front of the consulate officials and agree to a DATE OF RETURN.. If you care to give an opinion, at least do us a favor, go to the BR website and check all the forms before giving your opinion.

I am beginning to think that you are not only thick in the head, but also chooses to cherry pick certain LEGAL details and leave others outside of the equation. Bruna is the mother and the original kidnaper, she has chosen to be both!

Maths, if fun to learn. You and Costinha should form a study group, it is never to late to learn maths!

Here some great exercises for you too, especially from the renowned BBC website


http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/websites/11_16/site/maths.shtml
JusticeBrasil
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
Costinha is just too dumb, the MATH smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/grin.gif issue and now the (see below) quote


How about the 1000,000s of civilian Iraquis that met the same fate? Ohhh, they never talk about that, do they?


WOW, mixing up Bush with Chemical Ali is just HILARIOUS, HAHAHAHAHAHA


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JusticeBrazil
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
I'd say let's go into Sudan, and back in the day Rwanda, but I"m sure that would have pissed you and the rest of the world off to. Have fun with the blood of millions on your hand, embrace your nationalism over humanity, gg
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You are just brilliant and the way you expressed you ideas shows me how eloquent your argument here has been. I don't know where you are from, it doesn't matter really, but you can talk about complex legal issues, which most people here cannot. To comprehend the legality of this case, one has to be able to detach itself from all the nationalistic propaganda and you have done that.

Sad to say, but most Brazilians don't know what is like to be humane. How can they when crime, the genocide of native Brazilians, street children, and the landless goes on unpunished. Go to the Human Rights Watch Website, Brazil violates every dam convention it has signed.

There is not justice in Brazil and the rich control, kill, and break the laws which were created to safeguard its citizens from the real barbarians-the government. Below are just a snapshot of the real Brazil, for more information, please visit the http://www.hrw.org !

Children in northern Brazil are routinely beaten by police and detained in abusive conditions, Human Rights Watch charged in a new report released today. The release comes on the 100th day of President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva's administration


Brazil, always going to be the land of tomorrow. Those unhappy in the States should go back to motherland!
JB
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
our argument here has been

meant to say have been. Peace and enjoy the rest of the week! smilies/cool.gif
more on HRW
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
Youths face abuse and inhumane conditions in Rio de Janeiro’s state juvenile detention centers, Human Rights Watch said in a report released today.


There are more information and more available.

Brazil-abuse and inhumane conditions of poor women and children goes unpunished.

Some NGOs estimate that 500,000 Brazilian boys and girls are involved in prostitution.


http://www.gparlamentario.org/spip/spip.php?article263
Camara
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
I am not going to debate with you about Lula, I think he is a demagogue and Brazil is not going to do well. We need America to be doing well for Brazil to grow-Lula said so! Now, going back to the books, let's see the logic in your augment and please answer the questions below.

1) How many children attend school in the cities vs. in the rural areas?
2) How many children can do complex maths (public education) by the time they read middle school in Brazil?
3) How many children can read and write?
4) What is the literacy rate in Brazil?

What I said about the books was from a news source form Brazzilmag.com's website, not mine. Here for you to read it :http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/10639/1/

And again: http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/10649/1/

I know we HAD brilliant minds, I am not denying this, but if you cannot pay for private education you are on your own. I am open minded, you are right. There are many things here that I don't like, but generally speaking I am not too concerned about my child's education. The U.S. has the best universities in the world. More people come here than anywhere. Please go to the World's best 100 universities by U.S. News, and see if you can find a Brazilian university.

Part of it is arrogance, USP, PUC (private), UFRJ and other Federal universities are O.K., but also they are so underfunded, have leaking ceilings, lack of teachers, etc. that the student is not getting enough quality education. MEC suspended the medical school program at one of Rio's Federal University UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. Why? The Curriculum was poorly designed!

Camara, glad to know you are a Brazilian down to the bone. I am too, but I will not defend my country when I know the issues presented here are being distorted by a bunch of flag-waving wannabe nationalistic. Being blind to the inequalities, the crime and the corrupt government is not patriotic. Patriotism means a lot more than defending Brazil on a blog and we in Brazil are not and have not grown to become as such. Tell me one child who knows civics in Brazil. Just one.

Peace and please, don't take anything personal.


...
written by JusticeBrazil, April 08, 2009
Shelly1,

Thanks for your nice comments! I enjoy reading your arguments as well. I get so frustrated sometimes so it is good to see that others see through the complete massacre of morality and justice (laws) that Lins e Silva and supporters are engaging in. By the way, Camara is my wife and USA is her favorite country so don't let her fool you.

I do know that the U.S. could improve its lower education. You are definitely right about our Universities, but we need to do something better when it comes to K-12 (kindergarten through high school grad). Hopefully both countries will emerge with superb educational systems!

JB and Camara
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
I agree with you the K-12 has a lot of room for improvement, but where I live the schools were voted amongst the top 100 through K-12. Not all places are like here, I know that in D.C. the schools aren't good, the kids are falling through the system.

Having said that, my kids had a wonderful science project in school. They learned about animals and their habitat and did a habitat shoe box project. Since I am in the marine/environmental science field, their project was on leopards and wild horses. They had to do a small presentation to their classmates. Another project was on basic physics, leaning motion and the concept of action/reaction. I am quite amazed by their knowledge. Today we talked about the earthquake (they wanted to know how it happens and they are in 1 grade) and I explained briefly the concept of plate tectonics to them. They are still very young and didn't get a lot, but they know what magma is know that the earth is a dynamic system. If they didn't get anything else, at least they are ahead of the game in Earth Science. My daughter's teacher has an MBA and used to work for a N.Y. stock company, she left after she married. She is amazing and my daughter loves her. She is caring, attentive to the kid's needs and very proactive with the parents. She is great on teaching the maths and english. She incorporates poetry into the language program, writing, and essay composition. There are many schools here doing very well and the kids can do basic maths (addition, subtraction, and multiplication) by the time they leave her class.

I am always involved with the kids, helping whenever I can. The parent and teacher relationship is crucial during the elementary and middle school years. I am guessing you have taken the GRE and you know that they test you on stuff that you learned way back during your elementary school years, why? The foundation years is the base of everything.

I do hope, as you, that Brazil gets a grip on the education system. President Barack Obama touched on something I have said here before: A country cannot compete in the future without investing on education. We have a long way to go here in the States, but Brazil has a lot to do as well. I want to see the rural and city kids in school, the universities fixed, the country educated, and the books fixed.


JB
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
correction

Foundation years are the base, sorry it is 3:30 AM and I should have been in bed!

Don't worry, Sean will be back to the States soon.
Shelly1
written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
I know Brazil's flaws in the education, public health, public security etc. I didn't say Brazil was perfect, obviously it can't be seeing as it is still stuck in the 3rd world. I attended both public and private schools there. I am pretty smart and all I know I learned there smilies/wink.gif A lot needs to change for the better. And I like to believe it will. I admit however, defeat for leaving my country at such a young age due to my growing tired of how things work. I volunteered as an English teacher at a public school in a really poor town in the state of Pará. I saw so many things in that area that were really heart breaking. Trust me, I just might know more about Brazil's situation than you do.
My point is that I fail to see how whining on a public forum and bashing on Brazil is going to help it improve. I hate to break it to you but this is not helping our country in any way seeing as you left it just like I did.


Dealing with the Idiots: One by One
written by ...., April 08, 2009
Dear Synagogue Keyboard Commandos:

InjusticeUSA:

In your case… it’s quite simple, just read the Label. You’re just being yourself, the Ugly American stereotype; we expect from you that feeling of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner and/or presumptuous claims.

Funny thing is when you criticize my abilities in the English language and yet, make the arrogant presumption that I automatically speak it, voila! At least, English is a second language to me… What is your excuse?

Keep digging yourself deeper and fostering more anti-U.S. sentiment around the world. It’s being said before, Americans – just give them enough rope and they will hang themselves.

Shelly – The Hebrew Queen:

The “It’s My Way Or The Highway” philosopher. Now then, just do the MATHS:

Shelly PLUS Zionism EQUALS Foolish Evil Human Being.

I for one, never really understood or care to, Shelly’s objectives on this forum. Lots of Brasil bashing every chance she gets, from the comforts of her Virginia homestead. Is that her way of enhancing/improving the Brasilian society?

But you know what…. I am not surprised by her grotesqueries trying to sound like wisdom, it is part of her heritage, the selfish and obnoxious, in short, being jew!

Shelly Smelly, I find you repulsive!

Captain Amerika:

Well… A Picture Speaks A Thousand Words.



Up Yours,


Costinha

...
written by JusticeBrazil, April 08, 2009
Uh, I guess my excuse would be I'm not trying to pull off two profiles?

Logic isn't your strong suit.

lol
Just Imagine!
written by ...., April 08, 2009
Shelly having sex with her husband, the rotten teeth english prick.

We all know that the wild thing runs her rooster… She ties him to the bed with leather strips and then she says… Ohhhhhh, kinky! You brother won’t let me do that!

Then Shelly looks at the mirror and hums… I look great? People bad mouth HIV but I have lost 10 pounds since I've had it.

Shelly’s hubby turns around and say… ohhh honey, do me with your new giant vibrator. Shelly replies: Your dad won't let me do that either!

But she agrees and becomes quite aroused. Shelly turn the lights off, takes her clothes off in anticipation of what is to come... "Please hurry, I want to get kinky with you!" she moans from her side of the bed.

Shelly can hear him fumble with his belt then hears his zip come down, then finally his pants coming down.

Hardly able to control herself, she is surprised when she hears him pull his pants back up, then his zip, then his belt getting fastened.

Shelly shouts "Hey, I thought we were going to explore our kinkyness together?"

We did… He says, I just crapped in your handbag!

Hehehe


Costinha
InjusticeUSA
written by ...., April 08, 2009
The singular accomplishment in your insignificant life is the successful dodging of a coat hanger for the first 9-months of it.

Place the following 2 words into a well known phrase: OFF & F.U..C.K.

Up yours,

Costinha

Camara
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
I am glad you had the chance to work with the communities at risk in Brazil. May I say that I have done as well, especially in some of the favelas in Rio. My father still has the same program going on in one of the city slums, after 25 years of work, working with the women and children, I can say for certain that he is true champion for change. He is still there doing his part, you and I have left.

Now, I think it is unfair for you to say that I do not know Brazil. Since I was a young lady, I was introduced by my parents to philanthropy and volunteer for the communities at need. My experience with those communities have left a deep anger inside me. Brazil has a two tier system of justice. I cannot see how you think you are going to change by being complacent and by not saying what is on your mind. Pardon, if you think Brazil bashing isn't going to change things, I beg to differ. Technology is going to aid in this change and here many people come and go and leave their thoughts and experiences. You have arrived recently, I have been blogging here for a little over a year and half.

I too went to private education, was luck enough never to set foot in a public school system. The problem with the education is serious, whether you like it or not. I still have family and sisters attending federal universities, the sight in not a good one.

I failed to see how not talking about the issues will solve the current problems that plague our country. As you know, we still have to vote; therefore, by voicing my opinion and by voting, I am changing the course of history. Obviously it takes more than one person to change things, but some politicians do actually read this magazine and sometimes even post an editorial. Therefore, I fail to see how complacency helps Brazil change for the better.

What is going on in this case (Sean's kidnapping) is the tip of the iceberg. If you look deeper into this issue, you will see that Brazil has been and it will continue to be a land where the rich can get away with anything. I am not going to sit and not voice my opinion because you or anyone else thinks it is Brazil bashing.

I like this quote from Mao Tse-tung:

"We should check our complacency and constantly criticize our shortcomings, just as we should wash our face or sweep the floor every day to keep them clean."
Camara
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
I meant to say fail to see. I am sure you are smart, never said the contrary. I wonder what the new generation will compete in a global market.

Let's see if the argument that you presented on your previous post makes any sense.

If the future of Brazil is dependent on the young population and the kids, Brazil is failing not only the kids, but also its own future. Unless you want to continue with the slave like system where young kids are forced to leave school to work in the sugar cane fields, then Brazil will never reach its full potential.

Argentina has better literacy rate and lower childhood mortality when comparing to Brazil.


more on education
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
EDUCATION-BRAZIL: Pockets of Illiteracy, Despite Strides
By Mario Osava

RIO DE JANEIRO, Nov 12 (IPS) - Staying illiterate even after going to school is the plight of thousands of boys and girls in Brazil and is proof of the shortfalls of the country’s educational system, in particular in poverty-ridden areas. But the tide is beginning to turn, as can be observed among the country’s youngest children.

Social indicators from the Brazilian Institute of Geography and Statistics (IBGE), based on 2007 data, show that schools are failing to teach 2.1 million of the country’s seven to 14-year-olds to read and write - 7.5 percent of all students.

That number, however, should not include the one million seven-year-olds who are in first grade and are just learning to read and write. Another 605,000 eight-year-olds are in the same situation, as they have had a late start in school, according to André Lázaro, the Ministry of Education’s Secretary for Continuing Education, Literacy and Diversity.

The figures drop sharply in the following grades, with only 97,000 third grade students still illiterate. But what matters, Lázaro told IPS, is that they are staying in school, where they stand a very good chance of learning to read and write. Brazil’s educational system is "on the right track," which the literacy rates confirm, he argued.




http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=44669
...continuing
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
The overall illiteracy rate for Brazilians over the age of 15 stands at 10 percent, but that is mainly due to the older generations. Illiteracy among people over 40 is 17.2 percent, but drops to 1.7 percent among people between the ages of 15 and 17. More than 90 percent of all illiterate people in Brazil are older than 25.

"Projections for the coming decades point to continued improvement," said Lázaro, who is confident that it is only a matter of stepping up efforts. To that end, the government of leftwing president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva has guaranteed the necessary financing for the Fund for the Development of Basic Education, and consolidated assessment mechanisms to "identify problems in each school."

The third leg of this policy is the National Public System for the Training of Teachers, an Education Ministry project that is being designed with the participation of society, with the possibility of submitting suggestions until Nov. 24. With this three-pronged policy, "in 10 to 15 years we’ll be seeing a radical shift" in Brazilian education, said the official.

But progress is not so linear. Illiteracy persists primarily in rural areas, where the rate is three times higher than in urban areas. The 20 percent rate found in the northeast, Brazil’s most impoverished region, is twice the national average and almost four times the rates of the south and southeast, the most developed regions.



I fail to see how the government is financing education, what was the federal fund for FY2008 for education?

another good website:

"Most elementary schools are maintained either by municipalities or the States (as determined by paragraphs 2 and 3 of article 211); both entities are obliged to apply at least 25% of their budgets in education.
This generates a problem: richer States and richer cities have more money to invest and obtain a better education (not only because they have more funds, but also because the population are more informed and demand more resources), with better paid teachers and better infrastructure, whereas in the poorer cities and States the education will be generally of lower standards.
Even in the richer areas, however, the standards have been falling over the past decades. A cycle was observed in Brazil: the State invested little in education; the standards of public education dropped; the middle class moved their children to private schools; the middle class stopped to care about public education; the State invested even less in education; the standards fell even more;...


http://www.v-brazil.com/social/education.html
The Self-Proclaimed Know It All, Done It All.
written by ...., April 08, 2009
That’s the easy part….prove it!

Shelly, the philosopher, the professor, the psychologist, the psychiatrist, the scientist, the mathematician, the engineer, the pilot, the medical doctor, the politician, the geologist, the statistician, the environmentalist…. Did I get them all?

Oh…. How simple that real was, all one has to do is to claim it in writing, and it becomes true!

Shelly, the only thing you are is a psychopath bit.ch.

Shelly… Si j'avais ta tête a la place du cul j'aurais honte de chier. Gäbe es eine Skala für Hässlichkeit, du wärst drüber! Im Wörterbuch unter 'grotesk' stehen Deine Titten.

hehehe

Costinha
another good website:
written by ...., April 08, 2009
http://www.educationfutures.co...creatives/

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10...child.html




http://www.unc.edu/depts/diplo...clear.html

http://www.educationfutures.co...creatives/


http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/zeiger/040207


http://www.fairtest.org/esea-t...ed-failing



Shall I mention more??? The problem is that they keep trying to teach MATHS to these kids. That ain't gonna work!


There... Let me know if you need more sites!

Shelly... Up Yours Asquerosa FDP!

Costa
Shelly The Smellie
written by ...., April 08, 2009
Your mental compass has become magnetized somewhere along the line, Marco Pola; it's hopping from north to south like fleas from the left to the right ear of a dog. Do you really think your verbal directions are worth more than 10cc's of bottled syphilitic whore spit?


Costinha

Hehehe
Shelly1
written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
Hey, this is what your link said (http://www.v-brazil.com/social/education.html):

The situation has been improving over the past few years thanks to two official programmes: Bolsa Escola, by which parents who keep their children in school and with good health receive a small stipend, and FUNDEF, by which municipalities receive federal funds in accordance to the number of children enrolled.


Here is more information about the Brazil of today and what Brazil's president has done, Quoted from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolsa_Família


Bolsa Família, Bolsa Escola



The program has clearly contributed to Brazil's recent improvements in its fight against poverty, according research promoted by some universities and the Brazilian Institute of Geography and Statistics (IBGE). An ex ante econometric evaluation of Bolsa Escola did find significant effects on both school attendance rates and the number of children involved in child labor [17] [18].

The World Bank, which created on June 2005 a Bolsa Família Project [19] to assist the Brazilian government in managing the Bolsa Família Program, declares that "Although the program is relatively young, some results are already apparent, including: (...) contributions to improved education outcomes, and impacts on children’s growth, food consumption, and diet quality" [20].

A study by the UNDP Poverty Centre found that over 80% of the Bolsa Familia benefits go to families in poverty (making under half the minimum wage per capita), thus most of the benefits go to the poor. BF was also found to have been responsible for about 20% of the drop in inequality in Brazil since 2001, which is welcome in one of the most unequal countries on the planet[21]. Research promoted by the World Bank shows a significant reduction in child labor exploration among children benefited by the Bolsa Família program. [22]

One positive effect of the program which is not immediately apparent is that it makes a significant impact on the ability of the poorest families to eat. Children in public school receive one free meal a day -- two in the poorest areas -- and so less of their family's limited income is needed to pay for food. In a survey of Bolsa Familia recipients, 82.4% reported eating better; additionally, it was reported to increase the incomes of the poorer families by about 25%[23].




You can't change centuries of mistakes in 10 years... It might take another century to put Brazil on the right track, But it will happen eventually. Brazil is better today than it was in the 90s and hopefully it will become even better in the next decades.


I repeat, you are wrong if you think that debating on public forums is going to change Brazilians people's lives. You quit Brazil the day you left it. I also quit it, But I intend to do more for it, Maybe me and my husband will live there for a while and try to help the most we can in whatever community we live in. I also plan on adopting a brazilian kid, It's not much but it is all I can do.


I would like to teach Brazilians to LOVE Brazil, not to hate it. I know that Brazil hasn't done much for it's people but it's people hasn't done much to change Brazil either. So if the people start loving their homeland, protecting it, fighting for their rights, fighting corruption, go out on the streets and demand change, I am sure it will change quickly for the better. Change will happen if these things are done in the real world and not in the internet. smilies/wink.gif


costinha
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
Have you taken your meds today? Stay away from any sharp objects, do you need me to call 911 for help? smilies/cool.gif


Wow, is that the best you can come up with? Time to change the tune, you lack creativity, BORING zzzzzzzzz


...
written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
As far as Argentina...

According to data from the permanent households survey form Indec (the national statistics bureau) from the second semester of 2006, from the total of 31 urban conglomerates (which covers 60% of total population), 26.9% of the population is below the poverty line. Also, 8,7% of the population is below the extreme poverty (indigencia) line.

Moreover, these data are calculated in relation to the canasta básica alimentaria (the basic food needs index), which for the first semester of 2007 was estimated by Indec to be 7,6% more expensive than in the second semester of 2006. However, a private group recently published their own estimation of the cost of the canasta básica, which resulted a 11,5% more expensive than last year.

In Argentina, according to Indec data from 2004, the child mortality rate for the whole country is 14,4‰. However, the northern provinces have rates that are considerably higher: Formosa has a rate of 25,1‰, Catamarca's index is 22‰, in Chaco it goes up to 21,3‰ and in Tucumán to 20,5‰.

In relation to the last indexes, malnutrition in newborns (weight of less than 2500 grams) according to UNICEF's data from 1998-2005, is of 8%. Another suggestive number, form a 2003 study by Fundación CONIN on 75 pacients of their Rehabilitation Center, 56% suffered from primary malnutrition (not ingesting sufficient amounts of food) which is associated to poverty and 44% suffered from secondary malnutrition (related to other causes such as malabsortion, neurological or genetic problems, cardiopathy, etc.).

In Argentina, early education according to Indec studies from 2001, is accesible to 52.9% of 3 to 4-year-olds, with very strong regional and socioeconomic differences.

Los datos sobre trabajo infantil en Argentina son preocupantes,In the metropolitan region, only 45.1% of boys and girls from low-income households go to early childhood education, while in families of higher socioeconomic level this rate goes up to 83.7%. This huge class gap is repeated in other regions, for example in the Argentine northeast, where only 9.2% of children from poor families go to early education, in comparison to 41.8% in higher-income households. In relation to mandatory pre-school (5 years old), there's access from 78.8% of the population.

According to data from 2001 from Indec, 296.000 boys and girls from 5 to 14 years old are in a situation of child labor in urban conglomerates. The same source states that a total of 1.580.000 girls and boys from 5 to 14 years old do domestic labor in their own homes, attending to house needs, preparing food or taking care of siblings while the househod adults work outside the home.

It is estimated by 2005 reports from the Ministry of Health that aproximadately 127.000 people live with HIV/AIDS in Argentina, of which 60% are unaware of their serologic situation.

Health problems are specially worrisome, since from the total Argentine population (36.260.130), 48,1% are uninsured (Indec, 2001). According to the same reporte this problem affects 54,1% of children 5 to 14 years old, 53,5% of teenagers 15 to 19 years old and 50,8% of adults 20 to 49 years old.


Sorry, But I don't think they are doing too good. smilies/smiley.gif
Camara
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
I disagree with you. You cannot renew your passport unless you vote. You will never leave Brazil, you cannot unless you renounce your citizenship. Therefore, by voting and voicing my opinion about the inadequacies of this my country, I am not being complacent. Nice that you are adopting a child in Brazil, at least you guys will give a child in need a home and a future.

You are wrong, Brazil's problem with its education has been going on for more than 10 years. A lot longer. Since my mum is a teacher there, I can assure you that you are wrong. Some schools in the city actually are doing a lot worse than in areas such as Buzios or Quissama. It will take more than a decade to solve this and my family is doing what they can, more people are needed and if you want to go back to help, good for you.

You mentioned that people haven't done much to change Brazil. Well, nice rhetoric, but in reality the people have spoken, voted and nothing ever changes. We see the politicians involved in scandals and the TEFLON president never knows anything about it. As usual, he gives empty promises, Camara it is not the people who is at fault here, but the elite and the government.

There is a saying that people have the government they deserve. I disagree with that because, as Pele said, Brazilians don't actually know how to vote. They vote with their stomachs, not with their brains because they are too concerned on how to make ends meet. Politicians continue to lie and cheat and the Brazilian society continues to suffer inequitable income distribution and inequitable rights.

Since I have kids, I will give you a piece of advice. Once you have your child in a school system here, and it is living in the U.S. it will be very difficult for you to keep hopping countries. You will live like me, you will visit Brazil during his/her school schedule, not your life.

Bolsa escola is a good beginning, Brazil still has more illiterate childen than Argentina.
...
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
[removed]void(0);
The Self-Proclaimed Know It All, Done It All.


Now I have to agree with you. How long did it take to figure this one out, amoeba? A 1 1/2 years? smilies/cool.gif smilies/cool.gif smilies/cool.gif smilies/cool.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/wink.gif smilies/wink.gif smilies/wink.gif smilies/wink.gif smilies/tongue.gif smilies/tongue.gif smilies/tongue.gif smilies/tongue.gif smilies/cry.gif smilies/cry.gif smilies/cry.gif smilies/cry.gif
I just notice something
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
So if the people start loving their homeland, protecting it, fighting for their rights, fighting corruption, go out on the streets and demand change, I am sure it will change quickly for the better.


People do that already, Camara, but they are faced with a wall called bureaucracy. Where were you during Collor's impechement? I was out in the streets! I like your idea about going to Brazil to start social change, just remember, if you are doing in the Amazon, you run the risk of being killed like the nun or stepping very hard into someone a lot bigger and harder than you. You may not be afraid now, but that will change once you become a mother.

Peace.
Shelly1
written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
Camara it is not the people who is at fault here, but the elite and the government.



You do know that the people choose their governors, right? The people may be tricked once but they can not allow themselves to be tricked twice by the same politicians. A nation is only as good as it's people and it's politicians. If we allow corruption to happen of course it will happen, if we elect corrupt politicias, What do you expect?

Saying that the Brazilian people are not guilty for Brazil's situation is just laughable. Really comical indeed.
Shelly1
written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
Brazil still has more illiterate childen than Argentina.


Brazil's population: 196,342,592

Argentinas's population: 40,482,000

Costinha help our friend with the maths, please. smilies/wink.gif
Shelly…. Just like a broken record!
written by ...., April 08, 2009
Same bul.ls.hit, different day. Let me see if we understand her motives, simplified:

Say you do wrong and your parents ground you for a week. So you get mad, call the cops and have your parents arrested for child abuse, so you claim even though, not true.

In this case, Brasil represents the “parents,” while Shelly the “deceitful revengeful kid.”

No meu pinto você não toca,

Costa


PS: Shelly… Now I have to agree with you…… I say… Not in your wettest dream.

Say hi to the gay hubby for me!
Camara
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
Saying that the Brazilian people are not guilty for Brazil's situation is just laughable. Really comical indeed.


So how are the masses responsible for a politicians' corruption? The politicians in Brazil are well versed on scam school. The people you want to blame here, how unpatriotic (wink), are the people who are desperate for change. So, is your husband responsible for Bush's decision to invade Iraq?

Really comical indeed smilies/wink.gif


Argentina has a lot less people, but it is one of the better educated of all South American countries. Argentina suffered and still has many economic issues, but the education there, is far better than in Brazil. Argentina had dictators in power for many years, still it has better educated citizens than in Brazil.

Brazil has more people, higher GDP, and more illiterate people. WOW. Now, Camara, do you maths here and see where you can find the disparities. ;-)
Brazil and corrupt politicians 101 lesson for Camara
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
Camara,

You know quite well, now don't try to forget how it was at home, once here it is easy to forget, that we vote for the politician who will do the LEAST damage. All politicians are all corrupt, all of them. It hardly gives you a choice between A,B,or C. We all know quite too well the criminality involving the voting process in rural areas, coercion still exists, even today. A bag of sugar or a bag or rice during elections goes a long way for a politician, but it only lasts a few weeks for a family of four.

As Pele once said, Brazilians don't know how to vote. What did he try to convey with his message? That every single person should vote nil and leave it blank. However, as I mentioned, people vote with their stomachs-not their brains. Put yourself in the shoes of those less fortunate than you. When you are poor and have someone saying that they are going to give you a Bolsa familia, what would you do to survive? Huhhhh, duh!

Please, enlighten us with you philosophical B.S.! You need to pay a visit to a favela in Rio or anywhere in Brazil, don't judge the poorer class, they are trying to survive, while you and I are arguing about who is responsible for the economic and educational mess in Brazil. May kids, EVEN WITH BOLSA ESCOLA, do not attend schools because they get MORE MONEY than the program.

You can only blame a corrupt politician in Brazil, not me or you. I am not responsible for his/her action once he is the Planalto. I can only hope that he/she will keep up with his promise and not vote on his again coming next election. But then again, I am not the one voting with my stomach.

You are really comical indeed! smilies/wink.gif
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written by Laura, April 08, 2009
Where were you during Collor's impechement? I was out in the streets!


The typical Brasilian upper class mentality. When their bank accounts were frozen, they sent their kids to demonstrate on the streets to get rid of that idiot who is back in power elected by the "povo" again to screw them. Those who protested against Collor and still remain in Brasil are already rich or going to enrich themselves. Even his Finance Minister is back.

Unfortunately, we do not know how to differentiate between a half educated demagogue politician ,who has one foot in Brasil and another in USA or EU, and a serious Technocrat turned politician.

What amuses me (I no longer get irritated) is that our ex-pats in other countries complaining constantly about Brasil. It is more refreshing to hear the views of foreign ex-pats living here and contributing to our country than our whiners who fled for overseas.

Sorry, I have no respect for "Caras Pintadas" who were as bad as the ruffians from the current UNE. Both have taken democracy for granted and are pawns of the Rich and the upper middle class, not to forget MST.
Laura
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
I am neither rich nor did my dad sent me to protest. How many people were out in the streets? My dad, dear, works his ass off and it is a honest person. Many seniors went broke and some even took their lives.

I didn't see a lot of rich people out in the streets, you are being sarcastic right?

A crowd, estimated by police at about 10,000, marched peacefully along the city's main avenue for several hours Friday evening. A student demonstration Tuesday in Sao Paulo, Brazil's biggest city, drew a similar number of protesters.


http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-1020551.html

Are those 10,000 people all rich? Wow, I want to go back to Brazil today!
Laura
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
10,000 in SP alone, count every single state-do the maths! smilies/wink.gif
rich class protesting again
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
http://images.google.com/imgre...&sa=N&um=1

I wonder how many rich you could count amongst the thousands of people
Shelly1
written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
You always mention the slums... God damn it, it doesn't take a brain surgery to know how slums are. I think that you lived in Rio your whole life and never left the boundaries of that city.

Go to Brazil, visit the North, the Northeast, better understand your country and then we can talk. For now there is NOTHING you can tell me that I already don't know. I think I made you feel guilty when I said that YOU just like me are also guilty for Brazil's situation.

I love brazilian people but I am not going to say that we are not guilty for the situation in our country. Those politicians are also brazilians, ffs! How is that not the people's fault? And here I thought you were open minded... Holy mother of jesus!!!!

But hey you're right the politicians in Brazil auto-elect themselves, LOLOLOL

A country is only as good as it's people I like to believe that things in Brazil will get better. I would like to see the brazilians working more for their rights. If a politician is not good enough, the people has the power to take him out and make sure that he will never be elected again.
Camara
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
I have family in Brazilia, Bahia and Recife. My grandad died last year and he lived in some very small town in Bahia. I also have family in the South (father's side). My grandma was a prolific lady, so my relatives are spread across the nation. I lived in many states before settling in Rio. I lived in Sampa, Vitoris ES, and Belo Horizonte (my favorite place in Brazil is Minas). I have visited many states in Brazil, they all suffer from the same symptom, but some have more sun, fun, and good weather all year round.

The politicians are Brazilian, well, duh we can't deny that! Holy Mary, how can I be responsible for what a cretin does once he is elected? We can vote him out, but not his son or daughter who will soon continue the same cycle or take advantage of the system!

Things in Brazil will get better, but not in my lifetime or yours. It is sad, but I hope someone will enjoy it. My grandchildren perhaps, but we'll need a revolution to change things.

I don't feel guilty for leaving Brazil. I feel sad that my relatives are there and I can't see them every year. Once you have kids, life does change a lot, and you cannot take your kid out of the school for a trip during the school year. Legally, you have to justify any absences and the principal has to agree to it. Otherwise, you are asking for the social services to be at your door step. Enjoy visiting while you can-and I am being sincere here.

I am disappointed that our country continues with the same old song, same old story. I don't feel guilty at all, why should I? If I can find better opportunities elsewhere, better living standards (my family is not rich, they are middle-class and do a lot for our country), better work wages and better jobs, then why would I feel guilty?

I do my part, I vote. But then again we are back to square one. We vote for the candidate who will do the LEAST DAMAGE. That is our reality. We cannot possibly have a feel for who is going to be a good president living in the States. I read a lot of the newspapers in Brazil, we'll never be able to grasp the whole picture from here.

Vote, that is the only thing we can do and hope someone, someday will be a good politician, not perfect, but good would be an excellent start.
Camara
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
Not only I have lived in many states in Brasil and have visited a bunch of relatives. I have also lived in Europe, two countries. The U.S. is my fourth country of residency. I am very happy here, I love this country and respect this nation for the opportunities and for the good friends I have. Most of my friends are Americans and they have been just wonderful and caring towards my family. Some of them have become second family. I would not change a thing!

I think I know what I want for my family and for me. We all want different things in life, what brings me happiness is not a model to be followed by anyone. Still, the U.S. has the best universities and I can't stress enough, many, many people from all corners of this planet come here to study.

We should follow the good examples and discard the bad ones.
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written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
I feel guilty. When I lived in Pará, I cried every single night. As a teacher I got to know a lot of young kids and teens. I loved them like they were my own. As a volunteer English teacher, there was not too much I could do to help them but I did what I could. I feel guilty for giving up so soon.

I don't deny it when my country and my people have failed. But I don't like bashing it or pretending like I am American just because I have a green card or a citizenship. Like it or not me and you will NEVER be considered ''americans'',Conservatives hate to have us here. I am Brazilian and always will be. I can't forget my roots, my whole family lives there, my childhood and my adolescence were lived there, Brazil is part of me.
Camara
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
I can now understand your issues with the Brazil bashing. I will bash and praise when I see fit.

I don't deny it when my country and my people have failed. But I don't like bashing it or pretending like I am American just because I have a green card or a citizenship. Like it or not me and you will NEVER be considered ''americans'',Conservatives hate to have us here. I am Brazilian and always will be. I can't forget my roots, my whole family lives there, my childhood and my adolescence were lived there, Brazil is part of me.


Nobody here pretends to be an American, you are just like everyone else on this board, as soon as a Brazilian says anything negative, he or she is labeled wannabe American. Really, this is just plain childish, can you come with anything more creative? I have heard this before, it is really pathetic. You have assumed too much. You assumed I never left Rio, which you are wrong. You assumed that I want to behave or become somehow American, darling, there is no such thing. I can accommodate the values of this country, but will never be an American. However, I am very proud to be living here and my kids are having a BLAST !!!. THEY, are having a good live, THEY are Americans, Brazilians, and British. THEY have the best of all! I have never denied that I am from Rio. I love that city, but its chaotic state of mind does not fit my lifestyle.

My grandparents are from the South (father's side), from Holambra and my mother's family are Portuguese. I have a open-minded family, they accept everyone regardless of their race or creed. I am Jewish and I am proud of my heritage. I am proud of my upbringing in Brazil, I had a very safe and loving environment.

I hate to burst your bubble, but I have many conservative friends, two of my college roommates are hardcore Republicans. I used to work in an office with a lot of conservative people from Alaska. Again, you need to understand that not everyone will accept you, but most will. Not everyone will accept your husband in Brazil-rest assured, but most will. You cannot expect people to like you or accept you, that is unfortunate, but part of human nature. As soon as you understand this basic principle, you will feel much happier here.

I don't pretend to be something I am not. I am VERY HAPPY HERE, EXTREMELY CONTENT, I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE FRIENDS I HAVE. I think you have a problem with that, most people that offend me as being wannabe American, cannot understand or even grasp that I am actually very content in this nation. I will never return (live) to Brazil, ever. I would rather live somewhere along the Cayman Islands or in the Caribbean. The place that I really would love to retire to is New Zealand, but it will be too far for the kids to come and see us. New Zealand is great, the people are fantastic, great food, heritage, clean air and water, and great weather!

If you feel that you are being discriminated, I am truly sorry for that, but I haven't suffered discrimination here. I live in a very cosmopolitan city and have Brazilian friends in TX, Arizona and Utah! They all love here and enjoy this country and take "the good, the bad, and the ugly". My Argentine friends are now in FL and THEY LOVE IT THERE Too. I

Loving this country has nothing to do with trying to "be an American", you are just making lame remarks now. I always say, those who are not happy should always find somewhere where they will find true happiness. Life is too short to live in misery.

Hope you can come to terms with being away from Para. I am sure you miss there a lot, visit more often, once you have your baby your concerns are going to change.
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written by Laura, April 08, 2009
I wonder how many rich you could count amongst the thousands of people


None, as the rich didn't want to be seen with their puppets. CGT,CUT, etc; have different leaders now but the same masters!
Laura
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
None, as the rich didn't want to be seen with their puppets. CGT,CUT, etc; have different leaders now but the same masters!


I knew you would not be able to give me an straight answer. You like to make generalizations.

...The rich didn't want to be seen...wow
, you have a great imagination, don't think too hard or you will begin seeing pink elephants in the room. smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/cheesy.gif
Shelly1
written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
First time I read your posts I thought you were American. Until that point it was understandable. Once I realized you are Brazilian, it became extremely comical.


You can keep on bashing Brazil and I will keep on calling you out on it every time I can.

Now back to the topic: Bring Sean Home!
Shelly: Liar Liar… Your Pants Will Catch On Fire!
written by ...., April 08, 2009
I am really sick and tired of this soured little heifer … She lies so much, lies on top of lies on top of lies, to the point she can no longer differentiate them. Even her is getting confused with what is true and what is not. Crazy b.it..c.h!

I remember not too long ago when she mentioned how wealthy her family was, her dad had many businesses, that he paid more taxes in Brasil then all of us here combined, and the like. Now she is claiming that her dad is not rich, but a workingman. It is quite amazing how she changes facts to fit her current logic…. THIS NUT IS BUSTED!

Shelly, you perjure yourself more often then I can change my socks…. Have mercy!

Haven’t you noticed also how Shelly is everything to all people at all time? A real living “Jack of all Trades” aren’t you… prozak delight?

Shelly’s solution to Brasil’s immense problems? Bash it on every opportunity you get, on some internet forum such as this one, believing that you are making a big difference. Shelly…. would you just listen to yourself? You are absurd, naïve and quite stupid, or you have your head so far up you’re a$$ that it warped your sense of reality for good.

I particularly enjoy when she offers free advice… What a crack head. If anything coming out of you were any good, you would be selling it instead of giving it away!

Shelly, I'd like to see things from your point of view but I can't seem to get my head that far up my a$$. You have severe delusions of social adequacy.


Beijos,

Costinha
Moral of the story...
written by ...., April 08, 2009
Sean Goldman will stay in Brasil, in his country and with the only family he knows.

Thank you almighty,

Costinha
Costinha
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
Did you take your enema today?

Never I said I was rich and never I said that my father has many business. You are clearly delusional. He has one in Rio, and another in SP. Two, nothing more nothing less. He is middle-class, not rich, lives in Barra da Tijuca. That is all I said.

Now you can rant all you want, didn't you admit on another post that you have mental problems? I thought you said that you suffer from multiple personalities. I am quite sure you said you also had ED, I feel really sorry for you.

Costinha, Ch.C.s retarded brother!

At least Ch.C. is funny and his posts has some consistency.

Now, go back and continue smoking you crack.... smilies/cry.gif smilies/cry.gif smilies/cry.gif smilies/cry.gif smilies/cry.gif smilies/cry.gif smilies/cry.gif
Shelly
written by Adriana L, April 08, 2009
Shelly, you prove what a shallow reactionary woman you are (reactionary in every possibly way you can grasp it lol) parroting your delusional arguments like a mantra because you have NOTHING to say. This David Goldman guy was the one financially supported BY Bruna, he NEVER HAD A JOB, he DID NOT HAVE A JOB at the time they lived together. It looks like he now has some money and has opened his own business with a partner. MONEY which HE RECEIVED FROM BRUNA’S PARENTS, no? Money he BLACKMAILED from them. He is such a tremendous loser that he had to resort to an international treaty, treaty which is not applicable to the case because her wish was to divorce the guy (rolling eyes), and, gasp, he resorted to to…. no one less than Hillary Clinton !!!!! to make himself less sorry for his ass! Summing up, the guy is a major loser who was supported by his wife, who blackmailed his wife’s family in order to leave Sean, his beloved son, alone. Shelly don’t pretend saying you knew maths was not plural for math. You wrote it yourself as YOUR MAIN ARGUMENT in your post. Where’s capitona Kirk you protector? Lol I guess you’ll have to use another “person” to come to your rescue. You are full of it, and what’s worst you know it…. You keep using Brazil’s impunity to give your verdict of the case. If Bruna was a cleaning woman living in the US probably this case WOULD end up in impunity, isn’t it Shallow dear. How about macho David Goldman resorting to USA’s political power? How typically pathetic…...
Costa
written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
Sean Goldman will stay in Brasil, in his country and with the only family he knows.

Thank you almighty,

Costinha


You only say this to piss people off, don't you? lol or Do you truly think that Sean should stay in Brazil?

I don't know man...I can't even imagine how painful it is for a loving parent to have his/her kid taken away.
Camara
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
Not only you are comical, but also a very sad person indeed. Keep defending Brazil, I will keep asking you to return to motherland. We don't need you here.
Shelly1
written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
Sorry bbcakes, I just find it unnecessary to type in caps ABOUT HOW HAPPY I AM! OH MAN!!!! I AM SO HAPPY, CAN'T YOU GUYS NOTICE HOW HAPPY AND ACCOMPLISHED I AM?

I have high self-esteem so I don't need to be validating myself on a public forum and trying to make others feel bad about themselves as I try to make myself feel better.


You need therapy, woman. smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
A Secretaria Especial dos Direitos Humanos da Presidência da República (SEDH-PR) emitiu nota, em 26 de agosto de 2008, na qual reafirma a Convenção de Haia de 1980, reconhecendo que a custódia de Sean deve ser dada ao pai. De acordo com a nota, "sob a perspectiva da SEDH, uma vez que o pai norte-americano é detentor da guarda legal da criança nos EUA, a concessão da guarda temporária no Brasil ao padrasto está em desacordo com os dispositivos da Convenção de Haia, que rege a matéria". A SEDH acionou a Advocacia-Geral da União (AGU) e esta ajuizou, na Justiça Federal do Rio, ação que procura restituir o menino a seu pai biológico [4]. De acordo com a revista Veja, o caso (que corre em sigilo de Justiça) chegou ao Superior Tribunal de Justiça (STJ), onde apenas os ministros Ari Pargendler e Carlos Alberto Direito votaram pela devolução do garoto ao pai biológico, uma vez que ele só teve tempo de desenvolver laços afetivos com o padrasto devido à morosidade da Justiça[2].
Lins e Silva acusou o governo brasileiro de agir a favor de David. Em carta enviada ao Conselho Nacional dos Direitos da Criança e do Adolescente (Conanda), Lins e Silva afirma que "os interesses políticos estrangeiros parecem estar acima da nossa lei, e se não bastasse, acima do interesse maior de uma criança brasileira"[5].
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SEAN WILL BE BACK HOME!!!

Suck on that costinha!
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written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
S
orry bbcakes, I just find it unnecessary to type in caps ABOUT HOW HAPPY I AM! OH MAN!!!! I AM SO HAPPY, CAN'T YOU GUYS NOTICE HOW HAPPY AND ACCOMPLISHED I AM?

I have high self-esteem so I don't need to be validating myself on a public forum and trying to make others feel bad about themselves as I try to make myself feel better.


I guess you need it too , did you actually payed attention to the big caps? Good, it served its purpose then.

Now, at least we can agree that Sean has to come back to his father.

You need therapy, woman. smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/wink.gif
Adriana L
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
Bruna, may she never rest in peace, had the courts to divorce her husband. All the allegations you mention can only be know by the couple. I am not going to discuss their sexual life. She was for sure having an affair with Lins, he said it!

You are arrogant and petulant. Neither you or Costinha new that most places in the world the word maths is used more often. No wonder! Keep trying princess. Anything else?

Sean is coming home, Bruna had it coming for her!
Shelly1
written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
did you actually payed attention to the big caps?


Is that what you learned from the American books? Seeing as you were too good for the Brazilian books. (Just giving you a bit of your own venom)


Yes, Bring Sean Home
Camara
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
And you are a english teacher? I want my money back!!!!

First time I read your posts I thought you were American.


Let's try again shall we:

First time I read your posts, I thought you were an American.

English is not my first language and certainly not yours. No wonder you aren't teaching in the States. Hope you don't have a teaching post here.
Shelly1
written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
How hilarious is this?

And you are a english teacher? I want my money back!!!!


Making the same mistake while correcting mine... Priceless

Laughing out loud!
Camara, more from the English teacher
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
You always mention the slums... God damn it, it doesn't take a brain surgery to know how slums are.


How is that not the people's fault?


A country is only as good as it's people


Oh, Camara, I thought you were better than that, I am hoping the children you taught never commit those lavish mistakes.

It's = it is
its = possessive

English teacher? Pardon?
Camara
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
You are the teacher here! Not me!!!

Laughing at a failed English teacher, priceless.

I have never, ever tried to say that my English is good, but yours, being an English teacher is just abhorrent !!!!

LOL
Shelly1
written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
Dear, stop repeating the insults I use against you, against me. When you lack the ability to come up with your own material you should really just stop posting.

What is such a HAPPY PERSON LIKE YOURSELF doing on the internet all day long?

Don't you have kids to take care of?
English teacher
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
To be honest, the only person here with good English usage is Joao and Costinha, the rest of us are just scratching the surface to survive. But I am not an English teacher, never implied such thing.

For a someone fluent in three languages, I don't think I am too bad. On the other hand, professor Camara, you should know better!
person people
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
Costinha,

Of everything you say, at least you know how to use the English language. I take my hat to you.

Enough of being nice to you.
Shelly1
written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
I take my hat OFF to you.


I just had to fix that for you.

I become dumber every time I read your posts.

PLEASE MAKE IT STOOOOOOOP!


Ouch more faux pas
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
T
he people may be tricked once but they can not allow themselves to be tricked twice by the same politicians. A nation is only as good as it's people and it's politicians.


God almighty, have mercy on those who think they know English better than those of us ESL bloggers!

Father, forgive those who deceive the less fortunate into believing that they are teachers.

Amen
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written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
For a someone fluent in three languages



Wow... just wow.

I am speechless.


For God's sake!
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
the people may be tricked once but they can not allow themselves to be tricked twice by the same politicians. A nation is only as good as it's people and it's politicians.


Enough said smilies/wink.gif
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written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
Now that I am done teaching our loved Americanized Brazilian grandma some English grammar. We should get back on topic. This is really getting out of hand. We all look like kindergarten kids.

Bring Sean Home! I hope Joao Paulo gets hit by a truck! thanks smilies/smiley.gif

Camara
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
become dumber every time I read your posts.


You are dumb dear and just came to full realization. Please, do not volunteer to teach English in Brazil, ever!

People like you should stay away from a school.

O.K. teacher?


Shelly
written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
Go do your dishes and change your kid's diapers, grandma.

Please stop chirping! You are like a broken record.

''PLEASE GUYS LISTEN TO ME! I AM AMERICAN AND I AM SO HAPPY!''





teacher
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
Dear, stop repeating the insults I use against you, against me. When you lack the ability to come up with your own material you should really just stop posting.



No, I don't need to use your materials against you. You give plenty to laugh at, didn't you say you were an English teacher ?


Having Camara call herself an English teacher and see her butcher the language: Priceless!



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written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
Wow, you got really upset that I pointed out your grammar mistakes.

HAHAHAHAHAHHA... let it go, JUST LET IT GO! Move on with your life...

I hope you will be happy again, Someday.
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written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
an English teacher ?


Oh good! I see you are really taking notes from me.

Good job! YAY!
more faux pas
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
As a teacher, I got to know a lot of young kids and teens. I loved them like they were my own. As a volunteer English teacher, there was not too much I could do to help them, but I did what I could. I feel guilty for giving up so soon.

I don't deny it when my country and my people have failed. But I don't like bashing it or pretending like I am an American just because I have a green card or a citizenship. Like it or not, me and you will NEVER be considered ''americans'',Conservatives hate to have us here.


I will re-write the sentence for you:

Like it or not, you and I will never be considered Americans.


Period. Then you can continue the next sentence:

Conservatives hate us and are against immigration.


Boy, oh boy. Call me arrogant, call me a bitch, but you are just too laughable.

Peace, Camara. I really like you.


smilies/wink.gif
Shelly1
written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
YES!! YES!!!

She finally let it go!

It's ok... One day you will be as good as I am.

Never give in, Never give up!

I hope you have a great time at work( McDonald's) this evening.
Camara
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
Oh good! I see you are really taking notes from me.


Being humble, dear Camara, is a virtue not to be forgotten. I am not trying to be something beyond my means. Clearly you are talking out of your arse when you mentioned that you were an English teacher. Now, who are you trying to fool here?

I take good notes from everyone, everyone has from time-to-time something good to say. I never claimed to be a teacher. You have committed some horrendous mistakes.

Hope you can find another job, seriously. Can you sing or dance?
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written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
You are like a broken record!

Camara
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
Wow, you got really upset that I pointed out your grammar mistakes.


Yes I did, considering that I did not point to yours. You made many more, but I am not going to waste my time anymore. Even tough you mentioned that you were a teacher, I did not bring it up because I tried to look beyond the grammatical errors. You had some really good points and both of us are guilty of the same crime.

You cannot correct me when your English is below par. Please, let Joao or native English speaker do it for me. Thanks, teacher, but I have not requested your services.



Peace. smilies/wink.gif smilies/wink.gif
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written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
You are like a broken record!

Does it bother you? Then, don't claim to be something you are not, I promise I won't keep repeating it!
Shelly
written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
Yes I did


You have serious self - esteem issues. It's pretty obvious.

I gave you some of your own venom simply because I remember seeing you making fun of Costa.

No need to cur your wrists off.

Listen to some Pink Floyd: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhV4me_k8Y8 I hear it cures all wounds.
Camara
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
I work at McDonald's and you at Sunset Blvd.

It's ok... One day you will be as good as I am.


Another faux pas from the teacher.

O.K. ???

Camara: Mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the dumbest teacher of them all?

Mirror: You dear Camara, but fear not, Sunset Boulevard is going to employ you.




Camara
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
A good short movie for you to watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHgshn0vIW0

Do you see yourself as Sarah?
Shelly
written by Câmara, April 08, 2009
Ewww you are obsessed with me!

Let it go! Costinha help me please!!

I think it wants to eat me smilies/cry.gif smilies/cry.gif smilies/cry.gif smilies/cry.gif
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written by Laura, April 08, 2009
I knew you would not be able to give me an straight answer. You like to make generalizations.


Shelly dear, I am a newcomer to this site and have been reading your comments for about 5 days. You are indeed a confused young lady and from what I understand, you suffer from a severe trauma from your childhood. It is quite understandable, because of your constant relocations from one city to another in Brasil and outside.

My straight answer is you are a sick person and need psychiatric help, like Zélia and Fernando. You have nothing to offer to better our beautiful country except whining about it all the time. Please stay in U.S. and try to improve the lives of all the Americans, thus demonstrating your immense leadership quality.I agree that Fox news is a rich source of information and your schools (both public and private) are of world class standard that can not be matched by Brasil. If you are not very happy in U.S., please go to U.K. or The Netherlands and spare us the ordeal of listening to your constant complaints about your native country (if you still consider it so).

During our brief acquaintance, I noticed that you go according to the direction of the wind. I have no doubt that you burnt your bras while demonstrating along with your buddies "Caras Pintadas". As for your campaign to "Take Sean Home", let me ask you a simple question: Were you one of those 100 demonstrators in front of the white house, while Lula was visiting Obama? I don't think so, because you didn't want to "get involved" or were too afraid to be photographed by our security agencies.

If you have nothing to offer,better stay quiet minding your own business. Sorry, if you don't like my advice (or suggestion).



Shelly Cabeça de Goiaba
written by Adriana L, April 08, 2009
Nobody here pretends to be an American, you are just like everyone else on this board, as soon as a Brazilian says anything negative, he or she is labeled wannabe American.


Anything? you described Brazil as TRASH, while you, your family and friends are Brazilians. Costinha said it well, you just sit there, criticize and in the end consider yourself a queen LOL.

I don't pretend to be something I am not. I am VERY HAPPY HERE, EXTREMELY CONTENT, I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE FRIENDS I HAVE. I think you have a problem with that, most people that offend me as being wannabe American, cannot understand or even grasp that I am actually very content in this nationI don't pretend to be something I am not.


So other people acknowledge that either. Haven’t you heard that the voice of the people is the voice of Jeová? Join your friends. LOL

Shelly, you have such a colonized mindset that you will parrot anything that Pele (!!!) and Tio Sam vomit to you. I say it would have done you good read those Brazilian books you despise so much instead of having spent your teenage years at the Rio Shopping!

I have family in Brazilia, Bahia and Recife.


Brazilia, honey? I thought the Portuguese language was your mother tongue. I hate these illiterate, incompetent Brazilians..... Can you recognize this remark as your own, Shelly? I think Shelly hates Shelly!
Shelly Cabeça de Goiaba
written by Adriana L, April 08, 2009
Nobody here pretends to be an American, you are just like everyone else on this board, as soon as a Brazilian says anything negative, he or she is labeled wannabe American.


Anything? you described Brazil as TRASH, while you, your family and friends are Brazilians. Costinha said it well, you just sit there, criticize and in the end consider yourself a queen LOL.

I don't pretend to be something I am not. I am VERY HAPPY HERE, EXTREMELY CONTENT, I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE FRIENDS I HAVE. I think you have a problem with that, most people that offend me as being wannabe American, cannot understand or even grasp that I am actually very content in this nationI don't pretend to be something I am not.


So other people acknowledge that either. Haven’t you heard that the voice of the people is the voice of Jeová? Join your friends. LOL

Shelly, you have such a colonized mindset that you will parrot anything that Pele (!!!) and Tio Sam vomit to you. I say it would have done you good read those Brazilian books you despise so much instead of having spent your teenage years at the Rio Shopping!

I have family in Brazilia, Bahia and Recife.


Brazilia, honey? I thought the Portuguese language was your mother tongue. I hate these illiterate, incompetent Brazilians..... Can you recognize this remark as your own, Shelly? I think Shelly hates Shelly!
Laura
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
Is that all you had to say? Did it make you feel better?

What else apart from calling me sick can you come up with? Please, can you use something more creative?

If you are not very happy in U.S., please go to U.K. or The Netherlands and spare us the ordeal of listening to your constant complaints about your native country (if you still consider it so).



I am very happy in the U.S. or do you have reading comprehension problems?

I am crying, sniff-sniff. So hateful...
smilies/wink.gif smilies/cry.gif smilies/tongue.gif smilies/cool.gif

Spare us of your stupid comments, that is my advice to you.
Laura
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
I noticed that you go according to the direction of the wind


What kind of wind, the type coming from your arse?

Never I changed my opinion about Sean or about Brazil.

Go back to the drawing board again.


There Is A Point Where Enough Is Enough!
written by ..., April 09, 2009
Beyond that, you enter a new realm, one of lunacy. And that’s where Shelly is at.

Funny thing, for a person that criticizes me often enough, calls me every other word and yet, she likes to use my wording style (against me) on her stupid posts.

Shelly, you really need to get a life!

You always mention how terrible of a mother Bruna was even if you never met her, don’t you have little ones yourself to attend to? Go take care of your ugly little mongrels and don’t come back any time soon!

No meu pinto você não toca,

Costinha da Costa
...
written by Câmara, April 09, 2009
You are indeed a confused young lady and from what I understand, you suffer from a severe trauma from your childhood


I've been thinking the same about her.
...
written by Adriana L, April 09, 2009
Shelly dear, I am a newcomer to this site and have been reading your comments for about 5 days. You are indeed a confused young lady and from what I understand, you suffer from a severe trauma from your childhood. It is quite understandable, because of your constant relocations from one city to another in Brasil and outside.


Shelly, Shelly why is this comment so funny? Please, make it stop, I can't stop laughing, my bra is going to explode lol
Adriana
written by Adriana L., April 09, 2009
Camara,

I think you don't get it don't you. You too have problems. You mentioned you were a teacher and argued all afternoon with Shelly. Do you have issues too?

You both need help!


Shelly Cabeção
written by Adriana L, April 09, 2009
Is that all you had to say?


She called you a psychopath and a useless Brazilian woman!!!
Adriana cabeca de tomate podre
written by Shelly1, April 09, 2009
Adriana,

Tomate podre, get a life!

Bruna, mariapassaporte 7 feed under!
Camara
written by Adriana L, April 09, 2009
Adriana
written by Adriana L., April 08, 2009
Camara,

I think you don't get it don't you. You too have problems. You mentioned you were a teacher and argued all afternoon with Shelly. Do you have issues too?

You both need help!




Don't pay attention to this americanized psychopath cheater. When she sees herself on the spot like that, all she does is cheat!! I am Adriana L only. She is Adriana L period. What a looser neh não? LOL
Camara
written by Adriana L, April 09, 2009
Adriana
written by Adriana L., April 08, 2009
Camara,

I think you don't get it don't you. You too have problems. You mentioned you were a teacher and argued all afternoon with Shelly. Do you have issues too?

You both need help!




Don't pay attention to this americanized psychopath cheater. When she sees herself on the spot like that, all she does is cheat!! I am Adriana L only. She is Adriana L period. What a looser neh não? LOL
Camara
written by Adriana L, April 09, 2009
Adriana
written by Adriana L., April 08, 2009
Camara,

I think you don't get it don't you. You too have problems. You mentioned you were a teacher and argued all afternoon with Shelly. Do you have issues too?

You both need help!




Don't pay attention to this americanized psychopath cheater. When she sees herself on the spot like that, all she does is cheat!! I am Adriana L only. She is Adriana L period. What a looser neh não? LOL
Costinha, don't be so hateful
written by Shelly1, April 09, 2009
F
unny thing, for a person that criticizes me often enough, calls me every other word and yet, she likes to use my wording style (against me) on her stupid posts.


Oi, you are the one here constantly calling people names. I recognize that sometimes your posts have good value, sometimes.

And by the way, nobody wants you Costinha.

Do you hear voices in your head?
...
written by Câmara, April 09, 2009
Camara,

I think you don't get it don't you. You too have problems. You mentioned you were a teacher and argued all afternoon with Shelly. Do you have issues too?

You both need help!



Don't be jealous just because I got to make fun of her all day long !


You can have her tomorrow!
...
written by Sally2, April 09, 2009
Lady Laura, finally I found ya.How are you, your Honor? Hope that the MONSTER doesn't find us.You busy and in good spirits ma'am? I liked the advice you gave to our Sister Shelly. But as my Grandma likes to say, you can feed the horse,but cant make it eat.
...
written by Adriana L., April 09, 2009
I think she has also made fun of you, right?. It was hilarious to see you both bickering.

As I said, you both need some serious mental help.
...
written by Câmara, April 09, 2009
I think she has also made fun of you, right?. It was hilarious to see you both bickering.

As I said, you both need some serious mental help.


No... Actually she got made fun of.

Thanks for your concern. I will take your advice into serious consideration.
Adriana
written by Shelly1, April 09, 2009
I have no need to impersonate you. Really, this was done on another post and again, this is supposed to be a serious website, get a life!
Shelly…. The literal illiterate…. Hehehe
written by ..., April 09, 2009
Shelly says:

Neither you or Costinha “new” that most places in the world the word maths is used more often


Whathafuk do you mean by “new”?????????????????????????


Shelly says:

Being humble…


Now that is stretching a lot!

Shelly… The airplane ride offer still good? You and Me, One chute, I wear It!


Heheheh,

Costinha

PS: Some people never learn….. Hehehe
Shelly1
written by Adriana L, April 09, 2009
Shelly, I can't trust you or anyone else on this board anymore. I am sorry, but I think this is getting out of hand.
...
written by Câmara, April 09, 2009
Can we stay on topic now, please?

I know boredom makes us say things we shouldn't. It should stop! This page is looking pretty nasty smilies/sad.gif
I concur
written by Camara, April 09, 2009
Camara,

I concur, it is looking nasty. smilies/sad.gif
oh boy...here it comes again
written by Shelly1, April 09, 2009
I will give you guys pan y circo, it is fun to watch all the bitching and moaning.

Sean will be back here, justice will prevail.
Camara
written by Shelly1, April 09, 2009
Who is Camara are you out of your mind? How can you concur with yourself in two separate posts? I don't get it.
...
written by Câmara, April 09, 2009
I concur
written by Camara, April 08, 2009
Camara,

I concur, it is looking nasty. smilies/sad.gif


Why did you post with my name? smilies/cheesy.gif
oh please...
written by Shelly1, April 09, 2009
Yes, I told you right?

Just pathetic.
Camara
written by Shelly1, April 09, 2009
and you know quite well that I don't agree with you, so you are just wasting your time.
Shelly Says …. And by the way, nobody wants you Costinha.
written by ..., April 09, 2009
Ohhhh no, I am devastated……WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW.


I RAN OUT OF TOILET PAPER…. Shelly, can I borrow some? I know you stock them being such a bull.shi.ter as you are!

Huggies,

Costinha


PS No meu pinto você não toca,
can you all stop this once and for all!
written by Sally2, April 09, 2009
Everyone, please!!!!

Can you ladies just be kind and stop going off topic? It is really irritating me! Thanks, Laura for you sweet words.
Costinha
written by Shelly1, April 09, 2009
How many personalities do you really have? I see you as Laura, Adriana L, Laura and now Sally2. Please, have you taken your meds today?


Whoever has the BIGGEST tits
written by ..., April 09, 2009
If you ask me nice, I will befriend Shellita, my sweet Shelly, I love you Shellota da Silva.

Costa
Shelly, no I have not...
written by ..., April 09, 2009
Would you tuck me in bed?

Your Costinha
This post is becoming silly...
written by ..., April 09, 2009
Shelly, stop posting using my name, idiot!

Costinha
Psycopath useless woman (Shelly galera!)
written by Adriana L, April 09, 2009
Adriana cabeca de tomate podre
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
Adriana,

Tomate podre, get a life!

Bruna, mariapassaporte 7 feed under!


Shelly, explain something. YOU, a woman who VENERATES the USA because you live THE GOOD MATERIAL LIFE there and wants not to be shipped back home for no reason in this world. The other Brazilian woman, a woman who moved to the USA for love, who found herself in a trap marriage RETURNS HOME. Nothing makes her a maria passaporte, but you..... I can imagine you "found" your current husband through an internet ad. Quite pathetic woman you are, shelly.


Shelly, did you promise your little mongrels donuts for tomorrow's school lunch break if they post and mess the thread as much as they can? Good job
Psycopath useless woman (Shelly galera!)
written by Adriana L, April 09, 2009
Adriana cabeca de tomate podre
written by Shelly1, April 08, 2009
Adriana,

Tomate podre, get a life!

Bruna, mariapassaporte 7 feed under!


Shelly, explain something. YOU, a woman who VENERATES the USA because you live THE GOOD MATERIAL LIFE there and wants not to be shipped back home for no reason in this world. The other Brazilian woman, a woman who moved to the USA for love, who found herself in a trap marriage RETURNS HOME. Nothing makes her a maria passaporte, but you..... I can imagine you "found" your current husband through an internet ad. Quite pathetic woman you are, shelly.


Shelly, did you promise your little mongrels donuts for tomorrow's school lunch break if they post and mess the thread as much as they can? Good job
...
written by Adriana L, April 09, 2009
Shelly1
written by Adriana L, April 08, 2009
Shelly, I can't trust you or anyone else on this board anymore. I am sorry, but I think this is getting out of hand.


What a tricky, but stupid thing to do, to sign as me. Was it easy to do? Kindergarten has arrived. Duh.
Sally2
written by Double-Dot, April 09, 2009
I liked the advice you gave to our Sister Shelly. But as my Grandma likes to say, you can feed the horse,but cant make it eat.


Your Grandma and you are wise beyond your ages, kid. You both make me proud to be an American.

God bless America.
Adriana
written by Shelly1, April 09, 2009
The other Brazilian woman, a woman who moved to the USA for love, who found herself in a trap marriage RETURNS HOME


Nice story, you are making me cry now, sniff-sniff. Well, didn't Lins himself say that they were having an affair?

Or do you seem to forget it because it suits you madding psychosis?

Nice try wanker, I am happy here, very glad that I am in the U.S. not in Brazil.

Bruna, 7 feet under-Karma is a bitch!
Bruna, the real bitch
written by Shelly1, April 09, 2009
Young woman from wealthy Brazilian upper middle class family, raised with maids and privilege, goes to Italy to study. Falls in love with handsome American male model. They come to America and she soons realizes that the handsome male model is just a regular guy. The glamour and glitz are gone. She lives in the suburbs, feels possibly isolated and homesick. She has to take care of her son and do housework, whereas in Brazil she could have maids. She misses the human warmth and warm climate of festive Rio. She decides on impulse, or maybe planned with her parents, to go back to Brazil. She possibly felt disillusioned by her marriage and no longer wanted to be married to David, so instead of urging him to move back to Brazil with her, get a civilized divorce with visitation and vacations, she decides to run. Apparently she met the second husband during her trip there and fell in love very quickly, or maybe he had even been a former boyfriend. Since he was from an influential family in Brazil, her parents might have approved the relationship. For Bruna, the new guy represented a great opportunity to live the good life, since he was a successful lawyer from a well to do family himself.

This decision was the worse possible. If she was afraid of losing her son (she might have heard stories of American citizens being granted custody of children when a foreign parent decides to move back to their original country), why did she decide to do something so cruel to her husband and to her son? Why did she decide to do something illegal? Why didn’t she try to get a divorce and settle on a visitation pact with the father? Was she wrongly influenced by her parents? Was she ignorant of the law? Was she just plain selfish or clinically depressed? The more I learn about Bruna, the more I see a selfish woman who had no empathy or respect for the man who clearly was a good father and loved his son.


http://brasilmagic.wordpress.com/2009/02/28/the-sean-goldman-case/
O Brasil e um lixo e sempre sera!
written by Shelly1, April 09, 2009
Although Bruna and I were still legally married in the United States, Bruna obtained a divorce in the eyes of Brazil (without my presence or knowledge). It is my understanding that Bruna became pregnant and remarried in Brazil within the past year. Bruna married a João Paulo Lins e Silva, an attorney in Brazil


Brazilian legal system could prevent justice from ever being served. Soon after our arrival in Sao Paulo, we learned that Bruna's Brazilian husband did not file for custody of Sean. Instead, he filed to replace me (his biological father) on a birth certificate issued for Sean in Brazil. My lawyer has stated this is clearly an invalid application of Brazilian law. However, the only assurance he could provide regarding the potential outcome of this action was that it "should" not be successful.


This is the real story, about how a rich family can buy justice in Brazil. Brazil land of malandros da justica!
Double-Dot.... Long Time No See...
written by ..., April 09, 2009
Let me explain to you what we are doing here: Bashing Shelly, the one with the rotten vagina.

I hope you cal help us in peeling that heifer.

God Mess Amerika,

Costinha

PS: But if you don't behave, I am calling upon Augusts to straighten your hairy a$$.
Shelly
written by ..., April 09, 2009
You are one mean evil b.i.t..c.h... Be careful though, what goes around comes around!

FU forever,

Costinha
Shelly... The sore loser!
written by ..., April 09, 2009
Your genes have dictated that you will always be a loser; It's time to take your loss and get the fu..ck out of here.

Shelly.... You are the biggest bug in the manure pile.

Costa
Adriana...
written by ..., April 09, 2009
You should regard Shelly with an indifference bordering on aversion.

Also, you must get in line to hate the evil selfish Shelly!


Costinha
...
written by Câmara, April 09, 2009
Who is Camara are you out of your mind? How can you concur with yourself in two separate posts? I don't get it.


It wasn't me... Someone else did it.
What is the difference between…
written by ...., April 09, 2009
Bob(ão) and Shelly ?

The first has a limp d.i.c.k., the second a rotten va.gina!

Other then that…. They are both fugly, both have BIG BOCAS, and they smell and look alike…

Costa
Still don’t believe me…. Huh?
written by ...., April 09, 2009
Here is the proof:



They are both in there… I think it is Bob(ão) camouflaged as Shelly or maybe, the other way around!

I don’t knowwww,

Costinha

Hehehe
O Brasil e um lixo e sempre sera!
written by Shelly1, April 09, 2009

Although Bruna and I were still legally married in the United States, Bruna obtained a divorce in the eyes of Brazil (without my presence or knowledge). It is my understanding that Bruna became pregnant and remarried in Brazil within the past year. Bruna married a João Paulo Lins e Silva, an attorney in Brazil


Brazilian legal system could prevent justice from ever being served. Soon after our arrival in Sao Paulo, we learned that Bruna's Brazilian husband did not file for custody of Sean. Instead, he filed to replace me (his biological father) on a birth certificate issued for Sean in Brazil. My lawyer has stated this is clearly an invalid application of Brazilian law. However, the only assurance he could provide regarding the potential outcome of this action was that it "should" not be successful.


This is the real story, about how a rich family can buy justice in Brazil. Brazil land of malandros da justica!
Bruna, the real bitch
written by Shelly1, April 09, 2009
Young woman from wealthy Brazilian upper middle class family, raised with maids and privilege, goes to Italy to study. Falls in love with handsome American male model. They come to America and she soons realizes that the handsome male model is just a regular guy. The glamour and glitz are gone. She lives in the suburbs, feels possibly isolated and homesick. She has to take care of her son and do housework, whereas in Brazil she could have maids. She misses the human warmth and warm climate of festive Rio. She decides on impulse, or maybe planned with her parents, to go back to Brazil. She possibly felt disillusioned by her marriage and no longer wanted to be married to David, so instead of urging him to move back to Brazil with her, get a civilized divorce with visitation and vacations, she decides to run. Apparently she met the second husband during her trip there and fell in love very quickly, or maybe he had even been a former boyfriend. Since he was from an influential family in Brazil, her parents might have approved the relationship. For Bruna, the new guy represented a great opportunity to live the good life, since he was a successful lawyer from a well to do family himself.

This decision was the worse possible. If she was afraid of losing her son (she might have heard stories of American citizens being granted custody of children when a foreign parent decides to move back to their original country), why did she decide to do something so cruel to her husband and to her son? Why did she decide to do something illegal? Why didn’t she try to get a divorce and settle on a visitation pact with the father? Was she wrongly influenced by her parents? Was she ignorant of the law? Was she just plain selfish or clinically depressed? The more I learn about Bruna, the more I see a selfish woman who had no empathy or respect for the man who clearly was a good father and loved his son.



http://brasilmagic.wordpress.com/2009/02/28/the-sean-goldman-case/
Phone sex or trying to revitalize a broken economy- Lula "Let's hope the U.S. can recover so we can sell to the developed countries" Priceless!
written by Shelly1, April 09, 2009
Dados do Siga (sistema que acompanha dos gastos do Senado federal) mostraram que, em média, os senadores gastaram R$ 6.126 por mês em contas de telefone celular durante o ano passado, o que significou um total de R$ 8,6 milhões gastos pela Casa em 2008, informou nesta quinta-feira o jornal Folha de S.Paulo.

O Senado possui 232 aparelhos, sendo que 110 deles estão com senadores. Os outros 122 estão destinados a servidores com cargo de chefia. Funcionários com o cargo de função comissionada número 9 podem gastar até R$ 300 por mês com a conta do aparelho, segundo decisão do presidente do Senado, José Sarney (PMDB-AP). Já para os diretores com funções comissionadas número 7 e 8, o teto é de R$ 200 e R$ 250. Os senadores não têm limites de gastos.

Segundo cálculos da Folha, de acordo com essas informações, os funcionários só podem ter gasto R$ 512 mil em 2008. Portanto, o restante, R$ 8 milhões, é referente aos aparelhos que estão nas mãos de congressistas. Se essa conta for dividida por 12 meses, a conclusão é de que cada senador gastou R$ 6.126. De acordo com a Folha, com esse valor, seria possível ficar onze horas por dia falando em ligações locais.

08:34 - 09/04/2009


http://jbonline.terra.com.br/pextra/2009/04/09/e090418281.asp
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REUTERS

RIO - O emprego na indústria brasileira caiu 1,3% em fevereiro frente ao mês anterior, na quinta redução seguida nesse tipo de comparação, informou o Instituto Brasileiro de Geografia e Estatística (IBGE) nesta quinta-feira. Em relação ao mesmo período do ano passado, o emprego recuou 4,2%, contabilizando a maior perda desde o início da série histórica, em 2001.

O número de horas pagas aos trabalhadores da indústria caiu 0,4% ante janeiro e 5,7% em relação a fevereiro de 2008.

09:26 - 09/04/2009

The Bruxa still ticked-Off
written by Costinha, April 09, 2009
Hehehe.... Shelly, the ugly one!
Shelly... I am glad you mentioned Phone Sex!
written by ..., April 09, 2009
The last time I talked to you on the phone, I ended up with a terrible ear infection.

Shame on you... Bruxa from Hell.

Costinha
Phone me?
written by Simpleton, April 10, 2009
Shelly1, just to let you know, you might consider backing off on Laura and Sally2 and thinking they are more ghost pens on the part of Costinha. Turns out Jon (aka Canadian, Bo idiot, Toronto bussinessman, Maluf, and "......") is the monster from the other thread f-ing with their heads. Even seems he may have faked Double-Dot once. I know you love them dearly but Jon/Costa/Costinha/Double-Dot are in fact not multiples of each other. Favela Vila Sape is near to Barra da Tijuca - I'll bet your dad has provided service there.
...
written by Double-Dot, April 10, 2009
Double-Dot.... Long Time No See...


Yes, indeed. I have been very busy, but I appreciate your remembering me with warm memories (in spite of my being an American). You are one of the fewest friendly Brazilians, I have come across in this forum and I must admit that you are doing a great job.Keep your good work.

Let me explain to you what we are doing here: Bashing Shelly, the one with the rotten vagina.

I hope you cal help us in peeling that heifer.


Don't waste your time. She is not an American and therefore doesn't speak for the Real America. IMHO, you are doing a fine job of integrating our two great nations.

God Bless America, Brazil and the rest of Mercosur countries.

Any questions?
Epitome
written by Simpleton, April 10, 2009
"You are one of the fewest Brazilians," ... run on sentence thereafter with lacking space between period at the end of one and the beginning of the next.

Dear esteemed Double-Dip, you are usually so eloquent and I do enjoy your acerbic insight in picking things to pick out some times but really, what is your problem tonight? More than a couple of lines and you seem to fall apart and do your American english teachers quite an injustice.

(We do expect an answer from you as you had specifically asked if there were any questions!)
BTW
written by Simpleton, April 10, 2009
Has any consensus opinion been rendered about the mal-educated / under-educated American's and or European's snorting up coke in comparison to their Basilian counterparts? What about the relationship between Sean and Bruna prior to Sean and or their benefactor supplier cutting her off when economic times got bad for them? Does that have anything to do with Double-Dips two line max syndrome?
Simpleton
written by Shelly1, April 10, 2009
I can't comment on Bruna's drug use, but I am not surprised if it indeed happened. Let me give you an enlightenment about the rich or upper middle class youths of Brazil.

1) Live with mama and papa until... (fill the blank with whatever age it comes to your mind).
2) Go to school either morning or afternoon
3) Go home, watch some T.V., eat dinner and go to the Naitiii (go out)
4) Smoke a joint
5) Drink beer
6) Smoke another joint
7) Go home, attack the kitchen and F the empregada.

Now if it is Friday or Sartuday:

Repeat the same, but instead of smoking a joint...

smilies/cool.gif Go to a RAIVii (Rave)
7) Get really high on ecstasy
10) Get into a fight,
11) Kill if you can and run away from the cops
12) If you get caught you have the following opinions: pay the police, pay the DELEGADO, pay the judge and promise to marry his daughter.

13) Next day...

More ecstasy

14) Older folks...

Snort trails of cocaina

You see, when it comes to drug use, the brazilian youth are just as bad, if not worse than the American kids. If you are a poor street kid, you sniff glue or become a AVIAO, which is a soldier drug dealer. Minors hardly go to jail and FEBEM actually makes the problem worse.

I don't know if I told you this or if you remember, but my sister and my brother in-law were visiting some family members in Brasilia for my daughter's 15 birthday party. The party was at my uncle and aunt's home in Asa Sul. Anyway, they went to a nightclub along with 3 cousins of mine and their wives. Once they left the place, my brother-in-law was viciously attacked by a group of young man, he almost died.

It turns out, the perpetrators were the from a rich family in Brasilia and are known to attack other people.

The case against them continues, 3 years after. Will these animals be put behind bars?

I seriously doubt it.


In Brazil if you have money you can buy the cops and the judges. Justice is and it will always be for sale in Al MULA BIN MULA's Land. Sad, but true.

The Psycho is Back!
written by ....., April 10, 2009
Like the pimp and his whore, the latter comes back for more… That’s Shelly, the neurotic psychopath.

In the name of the father, son and holy ghost…. Stay away from me, infected one.

Costinha
you are doing a fine job of integrating our two great nations.
written by Costinha, April 10, 2009
Hehehe...
Dear Simpleton:
written by ..., April 10, 2009
Did you ever hear the expression “Keep It Simple Stupid ?

Well, I am real glad you seem to adhere to both… Good Day.

Costinha
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written by Simpleton, April 10, 2009
1) Live with mama and papa until... (fill the blank with whatever age it comes to your mind).

True. Know many that do but it's usually just with mama. Papa left town "for work" or died.

2) Go to school either morning or afternoon

True. That would be three days per week typical.

3) Go home, watch some T.V., eat dinner and go to the Naitiii (go out)

Works for me, no problem with that.

4) Smoke a joint

No thanks but check with asp.

5) Drink beer

OOOOHHHH YESSSSS!!

6) Smoke another joint

Again no thanks but FARC is making sure asp has no supply issues affecting him.

7) Go home, attack the kitchen and F the empregada.

Why go home? Don't know about "attacking" the kitchen but it's darn sure someone will clean it up in the morning (or one or two in the afternoon when we get up) or there will be hell to pay. As to the empregada - well, gotta do something to support her between her monthlies. Her having time off is out of the question. Cash advances? Well that does have to come with some kind of interest in return doesn't it?

7) Get really high on ecstasy

REALLY NO THANKS!

10) Get into a fight,

Ditto the response for 7) but I think you got distracted and Ate Nine.

11) Kill if you can and run away from the cops

No running, just invite them to the next open house / everything and anything goes festa.

12) If you get caught you have the following opinions: pay the police, pay the DELEGADO, pay the judge and promise to marry his daughter.

I guess we would just have to wait and see what the circumstances are. I wouldn't choose any specific one of those "opinions" in advance - gotta keep things non-committal / negotiations open right up until the last possible moment - it's business in Brasil.

13) Next day... More ecstasy

Stop already, your vibrator needs a rest.

14) Older folks... Snort trails of cocaina

Seems plausible but I've never encountered that. Guess I run with the wrong crowd or seem to always leave before the party really starts.

See folks, now that's the real Costinha not the imposter! Great job (and you can kiss your own ass too!)
It's still kidnapping
written by JusticeBrazil, April 11, 2009
Anyway, diminution of time doesn't suddenly turn a kidnapping into something legal.

Bruna (praise God) is dead, but her selfish actions have yet to be remedied. One can just pray for Brazil to join the civilized world and return a stolen child to his only biological parent.

Guess we'll see.
Shelly and others What were her chances?
written by Adriana L, April 11, 2009
Let's imagine dear Bruna did not have family nor friends in NJ or the US who she could count on. This is very much likely in a situation like hers who moved to the US exclusively to get married. Where should she find shelter in the event of a breakup? Should she leave her son in the US, head to Brazil and be accused of abandoning him by the father? What's the possibility that she would be granted her son by an American court: in her situation, without relatives and friends to help her in a foreign country? in the case she declared she intended to return to her original country with her son? I think most people who seriously attack Bruna comfortably forget her real situation and rely on the fact that she cannot defend herself....
Shelly and others What were her chances?
written by Adriana L, April 11, 2009
Let's imagine dear Bruna did not have family nor friends in NJ or the US who she could count on. This is very much likely in a situation like hers who moved to the US exclusively to get married. Where should she find shelter in the event of a breakup? Should she leave her son in the US, head to Brazil and be accused of abandoning him by the father? What's the possibility that she would be granted her son by an American court: in her situation, without relatives and friends to help her in a foreign country? in the case she declared she intended to return to her original country with her son? I think most people who seriously attack Bruna comfortably forget her real situation and rely on the fact that she cannot defend herself....
Her Chances were Very Good!
written by naomi, April 11, 2009
She had a job so she could have found a place to live easily plus her parents owned a house very closed to where their home in NJ. She had lived in NJ for five years and had many friends so she was not a poor lost ignorant little thing. She probably would have had shared custody of her son with his Father which is the common way to go now a days. She was not uneducated so why did she choose the cowards way and why she did not allow the Father access to his son all these years. I don't think you know all the facts Adriana L. I would suggest you do more research.
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written by Adriana L, April 11, 2009
No one can answer these questions isn't it? the fact of the matter is that WE ALL know how most Americans tend to be in situations like that, with foreigners. In their eyes, foreigners are ALWAYS the guilty ones, criminals, murders, kidnappers, thieves, terrorists when there's conflict of interests. Of course, American interests never ever concern the higher ground. They are ALWAYS the good ones, the right ones. And the other clowns here follow their master with their culturally colonized mindset. Still this Shelly idiot complain about quality of Brazilian books! You don't hear her complaining about the quality of Barra Shopping right smilies/wink.gif ? Many here say about karma. I wouldn't rely on that if I were an American. Or at least I would be very worried concerning it. Am I the one to be blamed for not sympathizing with Americans claims of justice? Or should I say United Corporations of America.Guess that's more accurate.
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written by Adriana L, April 11, 2009
She had a job so she could have found a place to live easily plus her parents owned a house very closed to where their home in NJ. She had lived in NJ for five years and had many friends so she was not a poor lost ignorant little thing.


Supposing any of your claims were right, which I have serious doubts, how can you know all this if no one ever mentioned the information you provide, then how do you explain her action? She's a psycho, a criminal, a whore, a selfish woman... Can you prove it based on what fact? She was not a whore and certainly not selfish. She could have never married the guy, but she did. How do you refute the accusations that David is profiting til today with Sean's paternity? Did you donate to his cause too? You people do not refute based on true facts, that's the big problem. She had the kid 5 months after they got married, they probably got married for the wrong reasons.
Canastrão
written by Adriana L, April 11, 2009
Plus the guy waited years to visit the kid, while he could have done it longer before, as Bruna's family invited him to Brazil many times. A lot of things in Goldman's version are very inconsistent.apparently not to the united dumbs of America. And the guy, let's be honest, he is a terrible model-actor. Canastrão nojento tchê
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written by Adriana L, April 11, 2009
David never wanted shared custody. One can tell easily. But the United Dumbs of America lead by the United Corporations of America vomit anything their media make them believe. and soon you all will be witnessing David Goldman launching branches of the Goldman Venture all over the world.
Lawyer - Ricardo Zmariola Junior
written by naomi, April 11, 2009
Look up the above lawyer on Google and learn that facts. Bruna's family invited him to Brazil ONLY on the condition that he signed away his rights to his son. Where do you get your information - from Criminals. Why did she did she give him a loving anniversary card a few months before she left? Why did she tell him she loved the very day she left? Maybe she was Psycho but definitely Selfish!
Adriana L
written by Webmaster, April 11, 2009
If you don't stop making duplicate entries, all your previous comments will be deleted and the future ones blocked.

Very truly yours

Webmaster
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 12, 2009
Let's imagine dear Bruna did not have family nor friends in NJ or the US who she could count on.

Kindof like how David doesn't have friends or family in Brazil he can count on. Only, of course, Bruna CHOSE to submit herself to the United States laws for her marriage and custody by having a child and getting married there.

This is very much likely in a situation like hers who moved to the US exclusively to get married.


Wrong, she moved to the US to raise a family. To live, have a child, grow up, work, etc.

Where should she find shelter in the event of a breakup?


I don't know of anyone that says she couldn't go back to Brazil. If she wanted to be with her lover more than with her family, so be it.

Should she leave her son in the US, head to Brazil and be accused of abandoning him by the father?


Uh, well isn't it abandoning them to be with the lover?

What's the possibility that she would be granted her son by an American court: in her situation, without relatives and friends to help her in a foreign country?


Incredibly HIGH. Don't be naive, you live in one of the most corrupt countries on earth. So I guess you wouldn't realize this. She would get joint custody, most likely primary custody of the child, had she abided by the laws.

in the case she declared she intended to return to her original country with her son?


These are the type of decisions you make BEFORE you commit to another person to have a child live and raise a family in another country. You don't THEN get to say "oops, my bad, F-you" S

I think most people who seriously attack Bruna comfortably forget her real situation and rely on the fact that she cannot defend herself....


I think you are incredibly stupid. What was her real situation? That she had to be like EVERY OTHER PERSON who comes to this country to get married, have a child and raise a family? That she was to be under the valid laws?

So your argument is this: Since both parents were good parents, and legally would be able to see THEIR child, as is required under any civilized law, that this would be unfair for Bruna, therefore she should abduct the child by illegally keeping him In Brazil where the Justice system is more corrupt than Costinha's ass crack.

Yeah, that makes sense. NO. I mean, I've seen really stupid logic before, but the whole "She needed to break the laws or else she couldn't fulfill her selfish desires at the cost of her husband and son's wants".

Nice one.
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 12, 2009
Many here say about karma. I wouldn't rely on that if I were an American. Or at least I would be very worried concerning it. Am I the one to be blamed for not sympathizing with Americans claims of justice? Or should I say United Corporations of America.Guess that's more accurate.


I think you're too big of a coward to confront the injustice being ADDRESSED right now so instead throw out the whole "U.S. does bad things too so therefore what Bruna did wasn't bad"

WTF is wrong with you? If the U.S. is moral or not in all cases has NOTHING to do with if Bruna is an evil whore who destroyed the life of her son and husband to be with her lover, and illegally violating the laws, might I add.

Get a grip you nationalist tard.
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 12, 2009
How do you refute the accusations that David is profiting til today with Sean's paternity?

From now on I'll make sure to include all my response in one post, but didn't realize that Adrianna was going to need to be refuted through numerous posts.

Are you so bad at math that you can't realize that he is six figures in the NEGATIVE from this suit?

he's spent 300,000 , the co-conspirators and financial supporters of the kidnapping, the parents, on the day of a trial where they KNEW they were guilty of kidnapping OFFERED David to settle. Why on earth on the day of trial after already going through all the effort of hiring a lawyer, flying to New Jersey, doing yoru depositions, building the entire case would you THEN settle UNLESS you knew you were going to lose because you know you helped kidnap the child. I mean a 5 year old can put that together.

So he's down 150K or so.

There is a reason why all court cases but about 5% SETTLE outside of court. It's because it is SO expensive. THrow in a piece of s**t joke legal system like Brazil where you need to hire more lawyers than Brazil has literate people and the money starts to climb.

Plus the guy waited years to visit the kid, while he could have done it longer before, as Bruna's family invited him to Brazil many times.


how convenient to leave off the part of David having to sign away all rights to the child before Bruna and them would let him see David in a neutral area, like mentioned above.



how nice to leave that off. David DID try to meet with Sean NUMEROUS times, yet Bruna said only way she'd let him see HIS SON is if he gave up all legal rights to him.



Well done! JusticeBrazil
written by naomi, April 12, 2009
Could not have said it better! Bruna would have never left without another man in the wings who is now the wicked Step-father!
JusticeBrazil
written by Double-Dot, April 12, 2009
You are fighting for a lost cause, son. You are full of baloney like that Goldman fella who doesn't even have a steady job. How do you expect him to sustain young Sean? Sean is in the good hands of his Grandma who hopefully will get rid of her brand new Son-in-law. That poor lady is unlucky to have got two losers as her sons-in-law. By the time this issue is solved, Sean would have grown up and decide to move to some neutral country away from his "biological father" as well his "stepfather". And you still would be discussing this issue!

God bless America.
Adriana
written by Shelly1, April 12, 2009
Let's imagine dear Bruna did not have family nor friends in NJ or the US who she could count on. This is very much likely in a situation like hers who moved to the US exclusively to get married. Where should she find shelter in the event of a breakup?


Women's shelter. They have all the legal resources and help out women in hard situation find a home.
I don't have family here. My family is my husband and my kids, my parents are extended family. In a event of a break up I can go to the Brazilian consulate and seek advice. That is what Bruna should have done, she had PLENTY of opportunity to get help. She will always be a criminal and a liar.

Should she leave her son in the US, head to Brazil and be accused of abandoning him by the father? What's the possibility that she would be granted her son by an American court: in her situation, without relatives and friends to help her in a foreign country?
in the case she declared she intended to return to her original country with her son?


Maybe in Brazil, a country run by criminals at the very top, that is the case. I have a friend, she doesn't have a degree or had a job at the time of her divorce. She was given joint custody of the child. She is back in Brazil (RIO) and the father lives here. He has his daughter during her school vacation and every other X-mas. Is it the best situation for the child? Damn right it is, at least my friend was CIVIL enough and mentally stable to realize that her husband is a good father, but in her opinion a terrible husband.

I think most people who seriously attack Bruna comfortably forget her real situation and rely on the fact that she cannot defend herself....


Oh, please, stop being so emotional. She needed defend from what exactly? Was she ever abused? It doesn't seem so, as Naomi said, love letters and a nice loving goodbye the day before. It doesn't seem that she was in any immediate danger. She went back to Brazil because she already had started a relationship with Lins. Get a grip!


David never wanted shared custody. One can tell easily.


That is not up to you or David to decide. Only a judge can decide this. A judge can decide to give sole custody to a mother, a father, put a child in a foster home, etc. Judges here aren't for sale as much as they are in Brazil. I wish the court system was as good as the courts in the US.

How much do you think you can pay a cop here for a traffic violation?

Sean is being illegally kept in Brazil and living with criminals.

Brazil, the land of malandros da justica!


JB
written by Shelly1, April 12, 2009
Get a grip you nationalist tard.


Fantastic!!!
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 12, 2009
Did you say "sustain"? This man makes more than enough money to "sustain" a 9 year old. Hell, in the U.S. ipods are a dime a dozen. He'll have every single technological device he wants, all while being a middle class American.

The lady is unlucky to have given birth to a whore. Then again, since she co-conspired in kidnapping I wouldn't call her a moral creature. Some people are so scared of the laws. Why? Because justice doesn't care how much money you have. Unfortunately Justice doesn't exist in Brazil.

That's the travesty.

As for baloney arguments I'd love for an actual attempt to undermine the arguments themselves. If the best you can do is that a man who owns his own house and business won't be able to sustain a 9 year old cause he can only buy a 42' LCD screen instead of a 52' then you need to try harder.

If Sean grows up and moves to a neutral country we WILL still discuss this issue. It is a LEGAL issue as well as a moral issue. Yes, the moral thing is to return a child from his kidnappers and let him regain a relationship with a father. But even once that is a moot point you have the legal precedence, the question of justice, the question of legality.

The courts must rule that the biological father have custody or woe be to any of us who ever thought of visiting our in-laws in Brazil. I guarantee you any kids I have will not be seeing their family UNLESS the justice system decide to become civilized.

So yes, this case is about Sean and ALSO about justice and legality (precedence) both of which CLEARLY are in favor of returning Sean back to the country he was kidnapped from.
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written by Double-Dot, April 12, 2009
So yes, this case is about Sean and ALSO about justice and legality (precedence) both of which CLEARLY are in favor of returning Sean back to the country he was kidnapped from.


While you are discussing about Sean who lives in a relatively peaceful country, I am more interested in knowing how our government is planning to rescue Captain.Phillips from the Somalian pirates.May be you could give some suggestions.

God Bless America
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 12, 2009
Here's the first clear difference. In the Somalian pirates case we're not dealing with a sovereign nation telling us that it's fine and dandy to take the captain, setting a precedent for EVERY captain to be taken at will without legal recourse.

This case is MUCH different. So while you worry about how to stop illegal acts, a worthy goal, I"m worrying about having illegal acts called legal. That is where the danger lies. It's one thing to have rogue humans violating law and causing us problems. It's another to endorse these rogues with legal precedent.

I hope that helps put this into perspective. I know when I"m on my fishing boat that if I get kidnapped by Russians for ransom everyone thinks it is illegal, and all available recourse given to me from all sovereigns. Yet when my wife takes my future kids to see my in-laws (which will be their grandparents and uncle) in Brazil it's kindof sad to know that my kids can be kidnapped and it be encourage, embraced, allowed, with no recourse for me.
JusticeBrazil
written by Double-Dot, April 12, 2009
Yet when my wife takes my future kids to see my in-laws (which will be their grandparents and uncle) in Brazil it's kindof sad to know that my kids can be kidnapped and it be encourage, embraced, allowed, with no recourse for me.


Son, it seems to me that you are very insecure and suspicious of your wife and therefore do not want to make babies. That is the reason you keep on talking about your "future" kids.This is not the first time you are expressing your total distrust of your Brazilian wife. If you are not sure of her, the best thing you can do is not to make babies, kick her butt and send her off to where she originally came from. May be you should seek the advice of Goldman on this issue.

God bless America.
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 12, 2009
Don't be naive. I thought you might be able to grasp a "Practical" issue that comes from this incident. Since your brain was only able to grasp the plight of one, isolated incident, with no thought of precedent I thought this might help you understand that this is more than about just one 9 year old boy.

You see, it isn't just the illegality of it, it isn't just the affect it has on that specific individual, it is the precedent it sets. Is Brazil a nation that harbors kidnappers and their victims? Or do they uplift the laws? Just like we'd be bothered by the Somalian government if they stated that the actions against this captain were fully legal and that their court system will sort it out.....in about 8 years.

I hope that clears it up more. But I'm not holding my breath....
Double-Dot
written by naomi, April 12, 2009
This site is about Brazil and the USA and a Kidnapped child. If you want to blog about the Somalia Pirates find another site. Unfortunately there don't seem to be any Moderators on this site because 50% of what is written on here to totally off-topic.
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written by Double-Dot, April 12, 2009
I hope that clears it up more.


Your hopes are shattered.

But I'm not holding my breath....


You have some kind of lung disease?

Son, better to prevent than to cure. I suggest you kick the fat butt of your wife and send her home, before it is too late. If not, 5 years from now, we have to put up with your website www.bringpedrohome.org. I ain't going to make any contributions to your cause nor that of Pedro.

God Bless America
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 12, 2009
Preventing kidnapping start with not legalizing it. That's kindof the point.

Say yes to Justice. Say yes to laws. Say yes to Bringing Sean Home.
Here we go again.... The Synagogue Keyboard Commandos.
written by ..., April 12, 2009
These idiots (Shelly, InjusticeUSA, Captain Amerika, Naomi 100 Nome, and others) waste so much time writing pure non-sense that they want us to believe… Hehehe.

These freaks don’t seem to realize that nothing in the world is more dangerous than a sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.

Classic, americans find a lot easier to form opinions when they have only a few of the facts, as they keeping learning more and more about less and less, the experts in everything about nothing.

Get a life (…..o……) holes,

Costinha

PS: Bottom line, Sean’s future to be decided by a Brasilian judge and likely, Sean will remain in BRASIL, with his loved ones, end of story!
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written by JusticeBrazil, April 12, 2009
nothing in the world is more dangerous than a sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.


And all this time I thought you were on the side of Brazil. No, really, all the Brazilians that come here to defend the kidnapping throw out the most ludicrous accusations. It's sad, really. And when that fails they fall back on "whoever has most money should win."

Yeah, that's great.

Brazil has two choices, choice one: defend the abduction, causing even more damage to Brazil's international rep**ation, or send the child back to his only biological and loving parent (ding ding ding common sense) and thereby piss off a few rich nationalists in Rio. Either way, Bruna the whore is dead, Lins e Silva's international rep**ation destroyed. So there will be a couple of happy moments out of this.

But the sad news is that Brazilians whose family members live outside of their country will never get to see their grandchildren, nieces, nephews, etc. That's the price Brazil will pay to satisfy a few corrupt rich Brazilians.

What a sad justice system. Thank God that they are so negligible that defending the kidnapping of kids is about the only impact they can have on the world.

My thought: Brazil will once again rule that Sean should be returned home, but state that they are too poor to do so themselves, and that a hearing should be had to see if David can bring him on with his own resources. That will go on for 5 more years. Then there will be a motion to ensure that Sean really is Sean, 3 years later, then the judges will pretend to interpret a law, all the while reading cat in the hat, in deciding that Brazil is America and that he has been returned.

Oh the justice system in Brazil, it at least provides laughs.
JB
written by Captain Kirk, April 12, 2009
My thought: Brazil will once again rule that Sean should be returned home, but state that they are too poor to do so themselves, and that a hearing should be had to see if David can bring him on with his own resources. That will go on for 5 more years. Then there will be a motion to ensure that Sean really is Sean, 3 years later, then the judges will pretend to interpret a law, all the while reading cat in the hat, in deciding that Brazil is America and that he has been returned.


JB, your knowledge of the Brazilian Injustice System is spot on. Stall, stall, stall until everyone forgets. It's a shame such good people in that Nation are forced to put up with what is internationally renown as a corrupt and broken judicial system. It's also perfectly understandable why the only people in Brazil who truly trust that legal morass of incompetency and injustice are those with the financial means to manipulate or circumnavigate it.

As for the rest of the trolls toiling about here, as usual, they offer nothing new. It's the same old ad hominem, potty-mouthed, misogynist and anti-semitic attacks we've seen for weeks.

JB and Shelly, they despise you because you're both intelligent, you're both articulate, obviously very well informed about the specifics of this travesty of justice, and more importantly, you are both 100% RIGHT. They know it, and it gets under their skin simply because their pathetic nationalistic heads together can't put forward one meaningful counterargument at your level. They possess nothing but nonsensical rumours drilled into their skulls by O Globo, and from what it seems, a helluva lot of spare time.
... Fixed
written by ...., April 12, 2009
written by injusticeUSA, April 11, 2009
nothing in the world is more dangerous than a sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.


And all this time I thought you were on the side of the USA. No, really, all the Americans that come here to defend the kidnapping throw out the most ludicrous accusations. It's sad, really. And when that fails they fall back on "whoever has most money should win."

Yeah, that's great.

The US has two choices, choice one: defend the seduction, causing even more ramage to American's international rep**ation, or send the child back to his only pathological and shoving parent (ding ring ring common fence) and thereby kiss off a few rich nationalists in Rio. Either way, Bruna the store is bread, Lins e Silva's international rep**ation enjoyed. So there will be a couple of happy moments out of this.

But the dad news is that Americans whose family members live wide of their crunchy will never get to flee their grandchildren, nieces, nephews, etc. That's the rice Brazil will spray to satisfy a few interrupt twitch Brazilians.

What a glad justice system. Thank God that they are so perishable that defending the overlapping of kids is about the only abstract they can have on the world.

My caught: The US will once again colo that Sean should be returned to Rome, but bait that they are too pure to do so themselves, and that a cheering should be had to see if David can spring him on with his own resources. That will go on for 5 more years. Then there will be an ocean to mature that Sean freely is Sean, 3 years later, then the judges will land to interpret a straw, all the aisle bleeding cat in the rat, in deciding that Brazil is America and that he has been returned.

Oh the injustice system in the US, it at least provides staff.



Poivoit unjust…. I really think your clue-meter is inoperative. Talk to someone who cares, WORST S.H.I.T. EVER!

Costinha

And now…. Captain America!
written by ...., April 12, 2009
It looks like the David Goldman’s synagogue commandos take turn with their Sean campaign of “disinformation.”

Question:

Dear Captain America, what shift are you working on this campaign? First, Second, Third or Graveyard?

Good day, my SEXUALLY DEPRIVED Capitona das Caraia!




Hehehe….

Costinha

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written by Captain Kirk, April 12, 2009
Again, Costinha, I know this hurts your wee tiny head, but I'm not American or Jewish, but I do proudly call many from both groups good friends. I also have close Brazilian friends too. I don't hate based on nationality, religion or gender. I don't debate real issues with school yard name calling.

Also, I didn't understand the gag at all behind the picture you posted, but then again, I really don't pay too much attention to the noise trolls make. It's just waisted bandwidth. When you do actually have something to say that doesn't offend a specific group of people, that actually has a point, please give us all a heads up so we can pay closer attention, until then, you will be ignored like most hate infested trolls and psychopaths.

Self-Praising…
written by ...., April 12, 2009
Capitona Amerika wrote”

JB and Shelly, they despise you because you're both intelligent, you're both articulate, obviously very well informed….. BLA BLA BLA…


Once again, the psycho (shelly) is representing her sick self under many “she believes” disguises.

Oh… ol’ mighty, will she ever learn that we all see straight thru her as a jelly-fish that she is…. Oh… ol’ mighty.

Not It’s Confirmed…. This is a case for straightjacket,

Costinha
The more I look....
written by ...., April 12, 2009




I think his ivory needs some whitening... Don't you?

Hehehe

Costa
Captain America
written by ...., April 12, 2009
mentions bandwidth.... she is used to very very large ones.... The length of her waist-belt!

Hey.... FAT PORKER… i want to cum in those fat cheeks of yours!

FU, once again, yours truly…

Costinha



Brazil: When Judges Go Beyond and Above the Law
written by Captain Kirk, April 12, 2009
JB and Shelly, here's a great article about the problems of the Brazilian Justice System. It's no longer a system based on "rule of law", but on personal "feelings" and often, simple revenge. That's how a hillbilly judge from MT could have the PF (all across Brazil) scrambling to find digital cameras and fingerprinting kits one day after his feelings were hurt by those "damn meeriiicans" and their damn immigration policies. lol. It's explained in the article.

http://www.brazzil.com/2005-mainmenu-79/121-february-2005/8940.html

You can't make this stuff up folks.
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written by Captain Kirk, April 12, 2009
USA: When Judges Go Beyond and Above the Law
written by Costinha, April 12, 2009
written by Captain Kirk, April 12, 2009

JB and Shelly, here's a great articles about the problems of the American Justice System. It's no longer a system based on "rule of law", but on personal "feelings" and often, simple revenge. That's how a hillbilly judges from the US could have the PF (all across the US) scrambling to find digital cameras and fingerprinting kits one day after his feelings were hurt by those "damn mexicans" and their damn immigration policies. lol. It's explained in the article.


http://www.abovethelaw.com/2009/02/judge_kent.php

http://blogs.buffalonews.com/i...crime.html

http://www.tsra.com/docs/AboveTheLaw.pdf

http://unfairjudge.com/

http://www.injusticeline.com/tales.html


Need I say more? You can't make this stuff up folks.

Hehehe
Synagogue Commandos
written by naomi, April 12, 2009
I am honoured to be called a Synagogue Commando. Jesus was Jewish and today is Easter Sunday in honour of his Resurrection.
Be Original
written by naomi, April 12, 2009
Costinha, haven't you got the intellegence to write your own comments? Did you attend the HeHeHe School. All you know how to do is cut and paste - that's what they do in kindergarten.
Naomi 100 Nome
written by ...., April 12, 2009
When you are right, you are right!

But I am also religious… I believe in reincarnation.

Just look at you… The world's greatest proof of reincarnation, no one could get that dumb in just one lifetime!

Kisssies in your Tatarata…

Costinha

Hehehe
The reincarnation of Costinha!
written by naomi, April 12, 2009
Costinha, you must have been the Devil in your past life. Did he send you here to spew your Vulgarity and Hate?
No... He didn't
written by Costinha, April 12, 2009
But.... Tô peidando de rir!

Tks
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written by Adriana L, April 14, 2009
If you don't stop making duplicate entries, all your previous comments will be deleted and the future ones blocked.

Very truly yours

Webmaster


The double posts are an error my mouse makes when I slowly click it.


JB

You are a stupidity that your educational system produced and I am bothered to be acquainted.

I think you're too big of a coward to confront the injustice being ADDRESSED right now so instead throw out the whole "U.S. does bad things too so therefore what Bruna did wasn't bad"


Idiot, unlike Shelly I am not directing my criticism to justify my points of view. I am not justifying Bruna's action with the Amercian idiosyncrasies. I am providing you one explanation for your colossal stupidity. See if you can figure that out. The blind "nationalists" are people like you, like this David Goldman who will use your damaged pride as an excuse to get what he wants: money. Or you forget your main premise is the Brazilian legal system? I am not a corrupt person so I don't bother with your accusations. This is my opinion over the clowns we hear about and sometimes have to deal with. And JB, why you punish your own language that much?

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written by JusticeBrazil, April 14, 2009
I am a stupidity? WTF does that even mean.

Bothered to be acquaintance? why you punish? lol, come on.

Money CAN'T be the issue since he's negative hundreds of thousands. So much for that theory. And since he's tried to get his son back since he was kidnapped by Bruna, and Bruna was alive and well at that time, there goes your argument that he just wants to control the kid to have the inheritance (yes, he knew bruna would die in the next few years, lol).

The Hague Convention says that after the biological files you are to return the child within 6 weeks. Your courts waited over a year and then said that since they as a court had violated the Hague (by allowing frivolous motions by the homo Paulo) that they were going to keep the kidnapped kid there, even though they admit that he should be returned.

Then his biological mother dies, keep in mind your courts already admitted he was kidnapped, and now we have a kidnapped child whose only biological parent is in the USA and your corrupt courts STILL are holding him. Like I said before, they'll find frivolous motions to prolong it. Brazil doesn't HAVE a justice system, they have illiterate fools who make nationalistic rulings while looking at their picture books.

Wake up, you haven't made ONE argument of substance. You've postulated money, yet the facts show a negative time and money outcome for David. So try again. nooblet.
JB
written by Shelly1, April 15, 2009
Brazil doesn't HAVE a justice system, they have illiterate fools who make nationalistic rulings while looking at their picture books.


Fantastic, Adriana cabeca de banana, is obviously a nationalistic fool. She has constantly made illogical statements-the only S.H.I.T she can come up with is money.

You have nailed the coffin, Brazil does not and will not ever have a justice system. Here is not perfect, but boy it is a DAMN side better than in Brazil.

As I said, "O Brasil e a terra dos malandros da justica".

Brazil is to Blame.
written by Mr Jo T Nash , April 16, 2009
The issue is Brazil does not offer a Visa to American citizens who’s birth parent are born in Brazil. So Sean was forced to become a citizen if he wanted to visit Brazil. Being an American parent you would never want to deny your child from seeing the Brazilian in-laws. So this Brazilian Citizenship was forced....its this 1900s backwards thinking that Americans laugh at your ideas and don’t listen to your suggestions. You know the difference between wrong and right basic
THE KID SHOULD BE WITH THE BIOLOGICAL FATHER, REGARDLESS IF HE'S BRAZILIAN OR AMERICAN
written by Troy Heagy, July 01, 2009
If the biological father was living in Rio de Janeiro, this kid would already be swiped from the stepdad and given to the natural father. That would be the court's decision, and why it should be any different because the bio-father lives in New Jersey makes no sense to me.

Furthermore, the biological father never gave-away his rights as a dad. It doesn't mather if he's Brazilian or American or French or Russian or whatever. His son *whom he loved* was abducted by a slimey, lying, coldhearted bitch. The son should be returned to wherever he was stolen from.


Injustice
written by William Mack, December 18, 2009
These actions are purely evil. Brazillians should be ashamed by backing such an atrocity. These actions are making me sick to my stomache.
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written by Leo1646565465, November 18, 2010
You Americans think you are the best, that the US is the best country in the world, but the truth is that it is filled with ignorant people who know nothing about the rest of the world, only about the "great" America. This is off topic but just for you to know, ALL the people who live in the American continent are Americans, not only you guys. You should create another name, seriously? This just proves that you know nothing about geography.
Truth
written by Tyler , March 15, 2011
His mom died and he got to know his step dad enough that they his mom had child with him.
His dad doesn't even know the kid enough. If the step dad is willing to take care of the child then let him. The boy Porb has family in brazil, Grandmother Grandfather...

It took as long till the mother died for the dad to want the kid back?

Did the dad pay child support when he was away?

If the step dad is a unable to take of the child the court will find that out really quick.

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