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Israel Still Financing and Promoting Repression in Brazil and Latin America PDF Print E-mail
2009 - August 2009
Written by Jamal Juma   
Saturday, 01 August 2009 16:04

Israel Western WallDoes South American politics move forward in constructing a new continental and global order based on democracy, human rights and mutual solidarity or will it fall prey to Israeli strategies that undermine the emancipation of Latin America and the Global South?

The Israeli minister of foreign affairs, Avigdor Lieberman, has wrapped up a 10-day tour through South America, the first of its kind for over two decades. His trip was aimed at launching a new direction for Israeli foreign policy, which is to turn more and more to the subcontinent.

The people of Brazil and Argentina have met him with loud street protest, denouncing him as an emblem of Israeli racism, fascism and colonialism. People have refused to play the quiet host to members of a regime that for over sixty years has kept Palestinian refugees from returning to their homes, oppressing the remaining population and developing ever more extreme forms of repression and apartheid.

The brutal massacre and siege in Gaza at the beginning of this year, and the ongoing construction of the Wall and settlements are but two of the issues which are adding to the gradual perception of Israel as a pariah state by ordinary people across the world.

However, the conflicting interests between South America and Israel go beyond solidarity with Palestine. Israel's new South America policy forces the continent to make fundamental choices regarding its own aspirations and geopolitical alignments.

Israel's recently strengthened interest in the region is partially motivated by the tightening avenues in Europe and North America, its traditional allies. Politically, even a conservative prime minister such as the French Sarkozy has advised the Israeli government to dismiss Lieberman in favor of a more presentable figure.

At an economic level, 21% of Israeli exporters have announced losses due to European boycotts. To offset this, Israel has recently developed much more vital and strategic interests in South America as well as Africa than in the past.

Until recently, Israel's support for neo-liberalism and US intervention on the continent has been mainly aimed at ingratiating the Zionist regime with the US administration, on whose political and financial backing they depend. This allowed Israel to limit the influence of the Latin American liberation movements, who retained a strong attachment to the Palestinian struggle.

For Israel, a colonial state built on the expulsion and ongoing repression of the indigenous population, the rise of anti-colonial and emancipatory forces anywhere of the world constitutes a potential threat to the very paradigm it is built on.

During decades of US military intervention and backing to fascist governments and dictatorships throughout the continent, Israel was there to help training paramilitary and the death squads of the dictatorships. Among others, Israeli operatives helped train right-wing Nicaraguan Contras, provided intelligence and small arms to the Guatemalan regime that killed over 200 000 people, razed villages and displaced over a million more - just as Israel had done with the Palestinians. This has opened a large market for Israeli arms and intelligence industries, but rarely it was accompanied by a comprehensive policy in trading agreements.

This is changing radically now. In times of global economic crisis and contracting markets in Europe and North America, where the first successes of the boycott movement have begun to compound Israel's difficulties, finding new trading partners becomes crucial. Large scale expansion of markets in the Arab and Muslim world is ruled out. Even where governments are coaxed into discontinuing boycotts and sanctions, such as in Egypt or Jordan, public consensus effectively bars Israeli investments, services and products from penetrating the markets.

Latin America, and especially the Mercosur countries, such as Brazil and Argentina, are a potential life buoy for Israeli products and services. It is therefore no surprise that Lieberman has during his tour of the continent reiterated over and over again the need for the Mercosur to ratify the free trade agreement with Israel, signed in 2008. In addition, he is holding extensive meetings in each of the countries with the local business communities in order to push for further economic co-operation with Israel.

While for Israel South America has gained a renewed significance, for the people in the continent, Israel has nothing new to offer. Israeli arms and military training are still killing Latin Americans across the continent. Colombia is probably the biggest recipient of Israeli arms and training.

"I learned an infinite amount of things in Israel, and to that country I owe part of my essence, my human and military achievements," admits Colombian paramilitary leader and indicted drug trafficker Carlos Castao.

Even in countries like Brazil, Israel is still actively involved in the repression of the people. Amnesty International and other human rights organizations have staged a campaign asking the state of Rio de Janeiro to stop using the Caveirão, the armored transport vehicle imported from Israel, to kill indiscriminately, to intimidate whole communities and to mount operations involving the excessive use of force.

While the entire American continent has isolated the current regime in Honduras, after the overthrow of the legitimate president, the leader of the coup has announced Israeli backing to his government. Several commentators have highlighted that in the months before the coup, the Israeli embassy was the scenario of intense diplomatic movement with important representatives of the opposition, including Micheletti.

Worse, Israeli diplomacy is designed to effectively block South America's strategic and long standing efforts to develop South-South relations, such as the creation of the Mercosur, the establishment of the Bank of the South and diplomatic efforts to create special relationships such as the IBSA (India, Brazil, South Africa) initiative.

The strengthened relations with the Arab world and the energy producers of the Middle East are strategic ties which may allow the global South to play a stronger role in world politics and to create a more just world order. Israeli diplomatic efforts are working counter to all these projects.

The scarecrow of Middle Eastern, and especially Iranian, influence, deployed once again by Lieberman is aimed to break up these important new ties of economic cooperation between the OPEC and other energy producing states. This is compounded by explicit calls to curtail South American unity. The virulent efforts to blackmail most of the member states of the ALBA would, if successful, fragment the integration among the countries and economies of the continent.

In fact, Lieberman's visit to South America, and Israel's new foreign policy strategy, force a choice on the governments and people of South America, which goes far beyond solidarity with Palestine: Does South American politics move forward in constructing a new continental and global order based on democracy, human rights and mutual solidarity or will it fall pray to those that are working against the emancipation of Latin America and the Global South?

The protests during Lieberman's visit clarify where the people stand. They show that those that have built a colonial state on the destruction of the Palestinian people and have driven apartheid to most brutal excesses can never be allies and partners of democratic and progressive countries.

In fact, the choice of countries on Lieberman's agenda has probably not been so difficult - not many other South American states would have hosted the racist minister. Only in Brazil, Peru and Colombia the heads of state have accepted to meet with Lieberman.

This gives President Lula a problematically ambiguous position - the leader of a progressive government ready to rally with those that are engaged in ongoing ethnic cleansing in Palestine and have financed and promoted the repression of the Latin American people. We hope that the recent victories won by the people of Latin America will translate into a will to impose popular demands on the governments that today still welcome Lieberman.

Palestinian civil society has repeatedly expressed its demand to South American states not to ratify the Free Trade Agreement (FTA) with Israel, a treaty that will finance the oppression and dispossession of the Palestinian people.

Even leaving the moral and political implications regarding Palestine aside, the treaty offers no meaningful economic profit for Latin America. Free trade with a tiny economy largely bereft of resources, such as Israel's, would aid an insignificant number of South American businesses and workers.

The ratification of the FTA with Israel is the yard stick by which the world should measure South American politics. Accepting it, any rhetoric of human rights, democracy and common causes is exactly this - empty words which do not put any pressure on Israel; refusing it, South America can open a new chapter in the history of co-operation among the global South, and the struggle for Palestinian emancipation - a world in which sixty-year-old hollow promises are at last backed by concrete action.

Jamal Juma is the coordinator for the Palestinian grassroots Anti-Apartheid Wall Campaign - www.stopthewall.org.



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written by Ted Goertzel, August 02, 2009
Lula's philosophy is to get along with everybody and avoid making enemies. You would do better to learn from Brazil instead of trying to force it into your one-sided, exaggerated anti-Israeli position.
Ted Goertzel
written by João da Silva, August 02, 2009
Lula's philosophy is to get along with everybody and avoid making enemies.


Sorry, a correction.It is a traditional Brasilian philosophy to get along well with every nation and not just Lula´s philosophy, unless you intend writing his biography.

BTW, I am not sure if you or the author of the article know that Brasil is a secular country, where we really do not care which religion you belong to.
"Lula's philosophy is to get along with everybody and avoid making enemies"
written by ch.c., August 02, 2009
Thus why are Brazilians the least liked people....in the Mercosur....to name just one economic bloc ????

Brazilian arrogance is A FACT !

Another example is that You are against Chinese textile, tractors, car imports, but expect your overall exports to grow to that country !

Same thing with Europe, the USA or whatever country or region !

You should create the OWTO...in opposition to the WTO !

OWTO...means....ONE WAY TRADE ORGANIZATION !
ch.c
written by João da Silva, August 02, 2009
OWTO...means....ONE WAY TRADE ORGANIZATION !


That was a very good one, Comrade, though I hate to admit that you got a good sense of humor. smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/grin.gif

While I warmly welcome you back to this forum ( I am sure you were as busy as I was for the past few days), I would politely (???) like to refer to your following comment:

Thus why are Brazilians the least liked people....in the Mercosur....to name just one economic bloc ????

Brazilian arrogance is A FACT !


In reply, I ask you to read my earlier comment about the "Traditional Brasilian Philosophy" and just not Lula´s philosophy smilies/wink.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/grin.gif

Cheers smilies/cry.gif
Jamal Juma
written by Forrest Allen Brown, August 02, 2009
more people are killed in rio than were killed in gaza!!!!

with your news in brasil only playing one side of the news no wonder he was on the rong side of the window to your views.

(based on democracy, human rights and mutual solidarity)
where in brasil does any of this come to fact unless you are rich or well famalied up

and then can we ask your religon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reply to Jamal Juma
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 02, 2009

I am sick and tired of listening anything about Israel.

The world does not revolve around Israel. There are more important things around the world than Israel.

I have tuned Israel off long time ago, and any time there is any news about Israel on TV - I change the channel.

Israel means nothing to me. I am a secular guy and I don't follow any religion.

I have been saturated of the Israel subject since the 1970's.

Enough, is enough....

I don't give a s**t about Israel.

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Reply to Jamal Juma
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 02, 2009

And I know a lot of people who also feels the same way as I do about Israel.

Everybody is sick and tired of Israel and their constant news grabbing strategy.

We are in the 21st Century, and it is time for the world to pay more attention to countries such Brazil, China, India with a total population of 2.5 billion people and instead of paying so much attention to a little country with a nothing population.

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Wait a minute...
written by jakob, August 02, 2009
Israeli diplomacy is designed to effectively block South America's strategic and ..


This is the stupidest and most unintelligent text I've read in a loooong time.

Israel has 7.5 million inhabitants. And South America has almost 400 million. So no matter how poor and backward S. America is, how can Israel influence such a big region in any meaningful way?

Just the city of Sao Paulo is 3 times bigger than Israel, for God's sake!

It wouldn't hurt to switch on common sense from time to time, would it?
this article is a peice of crap..
written by asp, August 02, 2009
are you following the dynamic in south america today ? do you see that punks like chavez are closing down radio stations and surpressing freedom every step of the way...?

do you see that him and correa and others are supporting farc with arms and allowing them to camp out in their borders ? do you have any idea how much havoc farc is reaping in brazils largest cities, doing huge business with fernando beiramars crew in rio and the pcc in sao paulo? do you know they kidnap kids off the brazilian border to be their slaves ?

when are idoits like you going to understand that the cold war was dirty on all sides and that the soviet union and cuba with che and castro were as much imperialists as the usa was? as well as the dirty litle wars in each of those countries and their dirty little sides calling in the usa and soviet union. everyone was dirty, enough of this brain washed history of the cold war...

did you know ismalmic fundamentalism causes the most armed conflicts in the world ? do you see how the scum bag talaban is raking over pakistan now, doing their scum bag bombing and destruction on their own people ? do you see what is going on in nigeria now or other parts of africa with islamic militant pond scum ? do you see the represion in iran of freedom seeking people who want change ?

i dont condone israels bullying of people in lebenon or the palistinians, but, they are not the real threat to the worlds peace .you kind of false history and outlook of the world is what is going to guarentee more conflict and violence....and from what i see going on now, in south america, fasten your seat belts people,because its going to get more intense as we go here...the middle east may take a back seat to the drama that is builing now...
asp
written by João da Silva, August 02, 2009
.and from what i see going on now, in south america, fasten your seat belts people,because its going to get more intense as we go here...the middle east may take a back seat to the drama that is builing now...


You sound ominous,asp. BUT....BUT....., your comments make lots of sense.smilies/wink.gif

I wonder what our Lord Augustus has to say about this particular issue!!
RC
written by regina, August 02, 2009
"written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 02, 2009
We are in the 21st Century, and it is time for the world to pay more attention to countries such Brazil, China, India with a total population of 2.5 billion people and instead of paying so much attention to a little country with a nothing population".

And pay attention to a bunch of embecils like brazil?
At least israel has accomplished in 60 years what you & your filth have been incapable of doing so in 188 years; instead of blaming others for your dammness; why don't you learn from them, they are a perfect example of what people are capable of when they want to, instead of baming their past.

ch.c is right, RC you are a total idiot, but being a brayuca why
should it be a surprise.



Remember Ric Amaral
written by Muhammad Ali, August 02, 2009
Regina is for the facist killer neoliberalist racist Israel state, the real threat to peace in the world PLUS USA US allies
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written by .., August 02, 2009
ch.c is right


Not all the time, though.
Joao " Brasil is a secular country, where we really do not care which religion you belong to. "
written by ch.c., August 02, 2009
Why dont you re-read the article and the comments in the forum ?
They are in contradiction with your statement !

smilies/grin.gif smilies/wink.gif
ch.c
written by João da Silva, August 02, 2009
Why dont you re-read the article and the comments in the forum ?
They are in contradiction with your statement !


I personally do not care about what religion one belongs. The same thing applies to my family members and circle of friends. During your travels within Brasil, I don't think if anyone asked you about your religious affinities.

To be honest, if a Mullah, Rabbi or a Bishop wants to preach his religion to me, I would give a yawn and serve these religious fanatics cold ones and let them slaughter each other !!!

From our long and extremely friendly association, I could make out that you don't give a s**t about religions either. smilies/wink.gif
M. Ali a/k/a Cocastao
written by regina, August 02, 2009
"Remember Ric Amaral
written by Muhammad Ali, August 02, 2009
Regina is for the facist killer neoliberalist racist Israel state, the real threat to peace in the world PLUS USA US allies".

Well, look who showed up the c**ksta, who's been hiding & now uses different sign on's as if we wouldn't now who he is; what a laugh, been busy ah Cutinha.
Braziul is really alot different than your comment, isn't?

Reply to Regina
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 03, 2009

Regina: “And pay attention to a bunch of embecils like brazil?

At least israel has accomplished in 60 years what you & your filth have been incapable of doing so in 188 years; instead of blaming others for your dammness; why don't you learn from them, they are a perfect example of what people are capable of when they want to, instead of baming their past.

ch.c is right, RC you are a total idiot, but being a brayuca why should it be a surprise.


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Ricardo: Please don’t give that BS how wonderful Israel has been doing… Blah, Blah, Blah…

Israel has been the largest recipient of US foreign aid and since 1973 Israel has received over $ 200 billion dollars from the US gravy train.

For your information the amount of charity that Israel has been receiving from the United States all these years – if Brazil had also been on that US gravy train that would mean that Brazil would have been the recipient of over $ 1 trillion dollars.

Brazil has nothing to learn from Israel other than how to suck all you can from the US gravy train.

Here is my answer to you – something that I posted on the Elite Trader forum when Israel was destroying an entire country – Lebanon.

Israel learned nothing with the holocaust, since today Israel is a major oppressor of people who can’t defend themselves – and we watch on a regular basis here on the US television the results of Israeli gunships attacking women and children in the Gaza strip.

I am sick and tired of listening how Israel is a victim. When they are among the major oppressors on the Middle East.


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July 30, 2007

SouthAmerica: $ 30 billion dollars in military aid – for a country smaller than New Jersey – and about $ 8 billion dollars of this aid it is in cash

For a country with a GDP of around $ 140 billion dollars – why make peace in the area and risk losing the free ride.

Israel government annual budget is around $50 billion dollars including defense spending of around $ 10.5 billion dollars.

You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that a large part of the defense spending from the Israeli government annual budget goes to pay salary for the soldiers, pensions, health care, maintenance of arsenal including the nuclear arms and so on….

After all these normal expenses related to defense spending there is not much money left to increase the Israeli destruction capabilities. That is where the US military aid comes handy – and most of the bombs, guided missiles, and god knows what else that have been killing thousands of people in the Gaza strip, in Lebanon and so on – the carnage and death toll in that area comes with the compliments of the United States government – and all these deadly weapons have the label “Made in USA”.

Israel have been receiving military aid from the United States since 1973 – adjusted for inflation and in terms of current dollars probably the United States have invested over $200 billion dollars in military aid to Israel during the period 1973 – 2007.

The American investments in military aid to Israel during all these years are paying great dividends just look around in that area of the world – Lebanon, Gaza Strip, Iraq and so on…

And we usually use “Enron” as an example of what looks like a bad investment.

What would have happened if instead of giving all this military aid to Israel during all these years if the money had been invested instead in education, and a Marshall plan to help lift all boats in that area of the world?

I don’t blame the Israelis from wanting to keep the gravy train coming.


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"In my last meeting with the president of the United States, we agreed that the aid would stand at 30 billion dollars over the next 10 years, meaning over three billion dollars a year, starting next year," Olmert said.

…The military aid is made up of 75 percent US military hardware, ranging from ammunition to warplanes, with the other 25 percent in cash, which goes mainly towards securing new Israeli-made weapons.”

…US defense aid to Israel began in 1973 but a regular 10-year aid plan -- with the previous one expiring this summer -- was institutionalized in 1977 as part of the Egypt-Israel peace agreement, the official said.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/...ost1549499

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Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, August 03, 2009
I am with ya, Ricardo, in spite of our differences on several issues. People have to learn to differentiate between the states and religions. It really pisses me off to see the names "Islamic Republic of.....", "The Jewish State of Israel", etc;

Can you imagine our country being renamed as "Catholic Republic of Brasil"?
How does this site expect to be treated seriously by publishing this level of crap?
written by Guilherme Faria, August 03, 2009
How does this site expect to be treated seriously by publishing this level of crap?

Israel against the "Global South"???

Is there any adult in charge here???
Talking about unrealistic expectations.....
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 03, 2009

Regina: At least israel has accomplished in 60 years what you & your filth have been incapable of doing so in 188 years; instead of blaming others for your dammness; why don't you learn from them, they are a perfect example of what people are capable of when they want to, instead of blaming their past.


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Ricardo: Talking about blaming others regarding their past - Here is some more information about Israel that I posted on the Elite Trader Forum in December 2006.


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December 19, 2006

SouthAmerica: Yes, this thread title is “Middle East Meltdown and US Foreign Policy.”

It is ironic that we are discussing that mess from the Jewish position on all this including the holocaust and everything else.

But if we discuss this topic from a United States position and the self-interest of the United States regarding US foreign policy around the world then it is another story.

Then we come to the real relevant questions from a US point of view:

1) Why is the United States is burning so much clout, prestige, and wasting so much borrowed money on the Middle East when its real self interest as a nation it is about “OIL” and nothing else.

2) Now we come to the second question: Why is the United States backing up Israel in the Middle East when it makes a thousand times more sense to be in the side of the Arab states and the Palestinian people?

I am sure that if the United States had been on the side of the Arabs all these years then the radical Arabs would not have the need to come to the United States and blow up buildings with airplanes as they did in 9/11.

By siding with Israel the United States is infuriating the very people who are supplying almost 50 percent of US energy (OIL) and also all these trillions of US dollars of recycled oil money that have been invested in the US by the Arab countries.

In terms of United States foreign policy it does not make any sense to back up Israel in the Middle East – and that policy is not costing the US loss of clout and prestige only in that area of the world – that policy is destroying US clout and prestige everywhere around the world.

It is a terrible policy and the only reason that the United States continues to sink in quicksand is because the Jewish Lobby is very powerful in the United States and they are able to convince Americans to stick with a losing proposition such as is the case of US policy regarding the Middle East.

The United States unconditional support to Israel in the Middle East is creating a situation that is snowballing in the Middle East – and everybody knows what happens to you when you are standing on quicksand.

If you want to bring Hebrew history to support your case of why the United States should support Israel – but that is crazy since at best we are talking about a very small group of people who grew to at most 50,000 people by 721 BC – who had a brief history from 2,000 BC to 721 BC.

Based on that the Hebrews wanted to reclaim by 1948 the land their ancestors had lost 2,700 years ago.

The entire world has changed since 721 BC, and many other groups of people over the years got kicked out of their lands by other groups of people including the native Indian peoples who used to populate the Americas from North to South.

As a US foreign policy based on self-interest and also on a rational level it makes no sense for the United States to give the unconditional support that it has been giving Israel for a long time.

It is crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let’s review one more time: the claims that the Hebrew people has over the land of Israel.

Here is the “History of the Hebrews” in a nutshell:

Around the year 2,000 BC Abraham (the founder of the Jewish religion) is supposed to have migrated with his family into Canaan.

Egypt's king, Ramses II, is now thought to have reigned between 1290-1224 B.C. – this is supposed to be the time when Moses lived and the Jews had their Exodus from Egypt.

At this point they were lost in the desert for 40 years then they managed to find the Promised Land. That brings us to estimate the birth of the Promised Land to around the year 1,180 BC.

King David – Goliath and so on is supposed to have happened around the year 1,050 BC.

In 970 BC King David was succeeded by his son Solomon.

In 721 BC the Assyrians overrun Israel, disperses the Israelites and takes thousands as slaves. Israel as a nation vanishes.

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Talking about unrealistic expectations.....
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 03, 2009

Now let us put the spotlight on all this information and try to put it on a more realistic perspective looking back from the point of view of today.

Around the time of Abraham the year 2,000 BC – this is where Hebrew history starts – the total world population is estimated to have been around 27 million people – and demographers know that 70 % of the population at that time were living in China and in India. That leaves about 8 million people to populate the rest of the world.

I guess at that time Abraham was just starting the Hebrew lineage.

Then we go to Moses time and the Exodus. Total world population is estimated to be around 45 million people around the year 1,200 BC. Again 70 % of the total is living in China and in India – that leaves about 14 million people scattered around the world.

Is it possible that this Exodus from Egypt involved less that 5,000 people? If we want to stretch even further since these people were supposed to be building Pyramids then let’s says there were 10,000 people who left Egypt with Moses in the Exodus. (I can’t imagine 10,000 people being lost in the desert for 40 years, but again…)

Let’s go now to the year 721 BC when the Assyrians overruns Israel, disperses the Israelites and takes thousands as slaves. Israel as a nation vanishes. The year 721 BC is the end of old Israel, until Israel it is recreated by the British in 1948.

In 721 BC the total world population is estimated to be around 80 million people. Again 70 % of the total is living in China and in India – that leaves about 12 million people scattered around the world.

Is it very possible that the Israel that were destroyed in 721 BC had no more than 50,000 people living in that area of the world in small villages raging in size from a few hundred people to maybe 2,000 or 3,000 people?

Can anyone on his right mind justify the mess in the Middle East based on this story of a very small group of people who happen to have lived a long time ago?

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The Jewish Lobby
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 03, 2009

Here is some more information about Israel and the Jewish lobby that I posted on the Elite Trader Forum:


March 25, 2007

SouthAmerica: It is interesting The Economist magazine choice of a title for an article on their magazine about the Jewish lobby – “Leviathan”.

The Christian interpretation of “Leviathan” is often considered to be a “demon” or natural monster associated with “Satan or the Devil”.

Some biblical scholars considered “Leviathan” to represent the pre-existent forces of chaos.

Regarding the actual article The Economist said that today the Jewish lobby in the United States could count with the help of - “…The lobbyists had every reason to feel proud of their work. Congress has more Jewish members than ever before: 30 in the House and a remarkable 13 in the Senate.”


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Is the "Israel lobby" distorting America's Mideast policies?

Two leading academics have tried to break the taboo against criticizing Israel's powerful U.S. lobby.

By Michelle Goldberg
Salom.com - April 18, 2006

The American Israel Public Affairs Committee, or AIPAC, may be the most powerful lobby in the country. As its Web site says, "Through more than 2,000 meetings with members of Congress -- at home and in Washington -- AIPAC activists help pass more than 100 pro-Israel legislative initiatives a year. From procuring nearly $3 billion in aid critical to Israel's security, to funding joint U.S.-Israeli efforts to build a defense against unconventional weapons, AIPAC members are involved in the most crucial issues facing Israel." At its conferences, a parade of politicians from both parties pay homage -- this year, speakers included Vice President Dick Cheney, House Majority Leader John Boehner and former Sen. John Edwards.

All successful lobbies flaunt their power. But unlike, say, the Cuban lobby or the AARP, there's a taboo against outsiders discussing the influence of AIPAC or the Israel lobby more generally, or criticizing the way it shapes American policy. To do so raises the specter of poisonous old narratives about mysterious cabals and dual loyalties, of hateful tracts like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and "The International Jew." So a strange, dim silence surrounds the Israel lobby, and the hushed atmosphere nurtures conspiracy theories about a power so great and so secret that you can't even talk about it in public. Those conspiracy theories make the issue even more fraught, because respectable people don't want to provide fodder for the likes of former Klan leader David Duke, who writes on his Web site, "Just as Jewish Israel-Firsters dominate the mass media, so Congress and the President are afflicted by the Israeli Lobby. "

Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer, political science professors at Harvard and the University of Chicago, respectively, apparently hoped to break through the taboos with their baldly titled paper "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy."


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“The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy” is the title of a book by John Mearsheimer, Professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago, and Stephen Walt, Professor of International Relations at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University, published in late August 2007 by Farrar, Strauss, and Giroux. It was a New York Times Best Seller.

The book describes the lobby as a "loose coalition of individuals and organizations who actively work to steer U.S. foreign policy in a pro-Israel direction,". The book "focuses primarily on the lobby's influence on U.S. foreign policy and its negative effect on American interests"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T...ign_Policy


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written by Adolf, August 03, 2009
written by Ted Goertzel, August 01, 2009
Lula's philosophy is to get along with everybody and avoid making enemies.


With the exception of the "blond haired, blue-eyed" devils!! smilies/wink.gif
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written by Gringo, August 03, 2009
We are in the 21st Century, and it is time for the world to pay more attention to countries such Brazil, China, India with a total population of 2.5 billion people and instead of paying so much attention to a little country with a nothing population.


I agreed wholeheartedly with this sentiment until this morning when I watched yet another BBC piece on how Israel just threw a group of Palestinians from their homes, only to have Jewish settlers move in hours later, contrary to stipulations found within the road map. Adding insult to injury, the moving company contracted by the Israeli Government to move the items from these homes, dumped those items on the street just a few kilometers away.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=102328§ionid=351020202

Nations like this NEED to be in the press, daily, if only to show how brutal and barbaric their policies and treatment of people are.
RC
written by regina, August 03, 2009
All your past & other published articles & elite trader are meaningless to me.
As you should know Politics are about interests & this shouldn't be news considering your country of birth & all it's trajectories.
Whether the U.S.A gives Israel $30 billion or not, i have no doubt that they still would be the only democracy & have the highest living standard of living in the Middle East.
Without all the mumbo jumbo, tell me RC, Where is the Democracy in the Muslim countries; is there no oppression in Muslim countries? What do these oil rich countries do for their people other than lining their own pockets?
And lastly tell me why couldn't Kuwait with all its oilmoney be able to defend themselves against Iraq, do you actually believe that these countries are capable of defending themselves?
If you do you are a foll.

Reply to Regina
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 04, 2009

Regina: As you should know Politics are about interests & this shouldn't be news considering your country of birth & all it's trajectories.

…have the highest living standard of living in the Middle East.
Without all the mumbo jumbo, tell me RC


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Ricardo: Please can you translate to plain English for me, since I have no idea what you are talking about: “As you should know Politics are about interests & this shouldn't be news considering your country of birth & all it's trajectories.”

First, Israel does not have the highest living standards in the Middle East. You figure out which Arab country has the highest living standards in the Middle East.

I understand all that mumbo jumbo is way above your head.

As you said the history of Israel is a big mumbo jumbo – then why intelligent people still wasting time with that stuff?

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written by CJ, August 04, 2009
Mr. Jamal what a heap of crap.There is not a shadow of evidence to your claims. You write just mindless palestinian propaganda,and ill informed opinion about Brazil and South America.Your friends and supporters are the likes of Morales and Chavez, great defenders of democratic human rights just like your Hezbollah and other blindly sectarian muslins .
Brazil should consider avoiding ANYo diplomatic relations with ANY Middle Eastern state (except 2 gulf states)
written by Augustus, August 04, 2009
A region composed of a brutal NEO-FACIST state, surrounded by primitive barbaric Islamic fundamentalist (both of which capable of unlimited harm to humanity) should be avoided at any cost (not only by Brazil but by the entire civilized world), for both competing groups represent a major potential danger for Brazil in direct or indirect terms.

Therefore, if I were to have my way (in an idyllic scenario where I could provide advise to a theoretical FUTURE Brazilian administration) I would STRONGLY stress the symbolical and political need to cut all existing relations with ALL countries in that disturbing region except DUBAI and Qatar (even knowing that such move would be detrimental to economic considerations).

Because the components of for both barbarian group of Murderers (Israelis & Muslins alike), if only the world were to let them exterminate one another (thus alleviating Humanity from its expanding cultural VERMIN), planet Earth would undoubtedly become an exceedingly better planet.
Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, August 04, 2009
Very interesting comments from you and "Gringo", Ricardo.

Even the Chief Rabbi of Sampa is in favor of a separate Palestine State. In spite of his shortcomings, I did appreciate his interview for the simple reason that he was fair and logical in his arguments.
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written by João da Silva, August 04, 2009
Your friends and supporters are the likes of Morales and Chavez, great defenders of democratic human rights just like your Hezbollah and other blindly sectarian muslins .


Hey, is the great defender of "human rights" Ariel Sharon still alive?

Because the components of for both barbarian group of Murderers (Israelis & Muslins alike), if only the world were to let them exterminate one another (thus alleviating Humanity from its expanding cultural VERMIN), planet Earth would undoubtedly become an exceedingly better planet.


Food for thoughts. smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/grin.gif
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written by regina, August 05, 2009
Your mumbo jumbo does not enlighten me nor anyone on this forumfor the most part, you have an ego to no end onhow you hi-lite your past articles, which noone takes seriously including your own country & friend Mr. sarney, if you wer on the right path, i'm sure someone woul've tapped into it, but no takers, i wonder why?

I stand corrected that Israel may not have the highest dtandard oflivign in the Middle East, but is at least int he top 5; so tell me whre are the rest of the arabic countries in standard of living & how able are they dto defend themselves with their billion/trillions without help? Just answer the question Mr. Mumbo Jumbo.

Reply to Regina
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 05, 2009

I understand why you feel that way about my articles and most of my postings – most subjects are away above your head – for you it is just mumbo jumbo.

Based on your postings on this comments section I can tell that you are semi-literate, and I would not be surprised that you don’t have even a high school education.

I already have wasted enough time with you – I have better things to do.

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written by regina, August 05, 2009
Your articles are not above my head RC,on the contraary i understnd them, but i don't use this forum to make myself seem eimportant & smart like you; it really would be better for youto answer the questions, that's what an adequately educated man such as yourself should do; answer the question, but of course brayuca's can answer a direct question, they have to go in circles when they don't ahve answers; tipycal; you should go back to your banana republic & hep your friend Sarney keep you on the payroll before he is thrown out, because that's what he deserves and you.
Reply to Regina
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 05, 2009

Let us continue to discuss our mumbo jumbo on Brazzil magazine.

I would suggest that you should find a forum to discuss Madona, and Michael Jackson - these are subjects more in tune with your intellectual level.

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There are some Moslems countries that can defend themselves...
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 05, 2009

There are some Moslems countries that can defend themselves from anybody including the superpowers.

First, there is a Sunni Moslem country that has about 100 nuclear weapons.

Second, Iran another country in that area of the world is in the process of building neclear weapons.

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R & R - Regina & Ricardo
written by Episilon Eridani, August 05, 2009
What a pair of enlighted, self-centered misfits
Both carrying truck-loads of socio-cultural baggage from their respective countries...
The aristocratic male carries the weight of his semi-feudal, slave owner society plagued by social injustice and extreme political corruption
The semi-litterate female reflects the horrors of an OPPRESSED people turned into OPPRESSOR, carrying the "morals" of an irrelevant moronic sect driven to invade, torture and destroy its equally moronic neighbors, both fighting over ridiculous opposing mithologies...
When is the wedding?
Reply to Epsilon Eridani
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 05, 2009

If you have been reading my articles then you should know that I have been trying to place the foundations in Brazil to change: "The semi-feudal, slave owner society plagued by social injustice and extreme political corruption."

If the Brazilian government follows my economic development plan then the result would be a rising tide lifts all boats.


Epsilon Eridani
written by João da Silva, August 05, 2009
While every single fellow blogger may welcome you back to this blog, I am not sure I do. I am shocked and distressed at your cheap shot aimed at Mr.Amaral.Somehow you give me an impression that you do not like any Brasilian expressing his/her frank opinion. I must bring to your attention the fact that this is not the first time you call names of the Brasilian writers. Remember you called Mr.Augustus Severus, a "Rightist Reactionary fascist pig"? Short memory?

Finally, to your comment:

When is the wedding?


Why this question, unless you are a Rabbi, Mullah or a Padre and want to make a few bucks out of their supposed matrimonial plans?

Please clarify my questions.

Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, August 05, 2009
First, there is a Sunni Moslem country that has about 100 nuclear weapons.


You are talking about Pakistan, correct? If so, the stats and facts are right!
Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 05, 2009

Yes, I am talking about Pakistan. It is estimated that they have between 90 to 100 nuclear warheads.

If they ever are pressed to use some of these warheads - they don't need more than 10 nuclear warheads to cause a total global economic collapse.

Osama Bin Ladden has been living in Pakistan for many years - The US has not attacked Pakistan in the same way that the US attacked Iraq, and Afghanistan.

Why?

Because Pakistan is armed with nuclear warheads.

Not even the Bush administration was that foolish.


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Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 05, 2009

Late last night I sent an email (To his personal email) to my friend former president Jose Sarney, and I told him that he can count with my support, and for him not to panic and hang on despite all the vicious attacks.

He might lose a few battles along the way, but soon enough he will win the war.

President Lula will be better of with Senator Sarney as president of the senate and an important ally.

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Don't worry...
written by Greenspan, August 05, 2009
If any fool is stupid enough to think that Pakistan can launch a nuclear attack with the permission of the U.S. is an idiot.

At least if their government is not overthrown.

The U.S. has the launchcodes!
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written by regina, August 05, 2009
You are pathetic as ever, Pakistan, Iran nuclear heads or not,what about the rest of the richest arabic countries,why don't they have them?
Do you actually know what the u.s.a is capable of in total?
So, tell me how many years is it going to take to convince Mr.Sarney or the other politicos to accept your plan, your part of the clan.
Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, August 05, 2009
Hi Ricardo,

Yes, I am talking about Pakistan. It is estimated that they have between 90 to 100 nuclear warheads.

If they ever are pressed to use some of these warheads - they don't need more than 10 nuclear warheads to cause a total global economic collapse.


To certain extent, I agree with you. Pakistan being a failed state is more dangerous. But, I think that the Indians have already neutralized them. A couple of weeks ago, they launched their Nuclear Sub and probably they have more warheads than the Pakistanos. I don't know if you remember reading the news that the "Father of Islamic Bomb" sold the Iranians, the know-how to produce the Bomb. It is all a big International "Chess Game" and I would rather see Brasil keeping a Neutral Stance w.r.t to the never ending quarrel between the Arab world and Israel. BTW, I have many fine friends who are of Islamic and Jewish faiths. Nice people and I make it a point not to discuss their religions.
Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, August 05, 2009
Late last night I sent an email (To his personal email) to my friend former president Jose Sarney, and I told him that he can count with my support, and for him not to panic and hang on despite all the vicious attacks.


One thing I always admired in you is your fierce loyalty to your friends (which is a very good trait and I recall Augustus mentioning about it). Lately I have become totally disillusioned with "so called" friends and I would rather avoid commenting further on this "thorny issue".

As for the comments of "Regina", I think she is a pompous idiot (Perua) who is highly anti-Brasilian and if I were you, I wouldn't waste my time "Replying" to her.

Also, that Italian Eridani is another pain in the butt. Never mind these two obnoxious characters.
Insulting primitives
written by Episilon Eridani, August 06, 2009
One will never waiver one's determination to express views and opinions on any subject, indifferent to possible criticism from any quarter.

Even though the grisly attitude of certain citizens of Third World countries can be explained by the enormous brutality of their history, one would have expected all members from their upper classes to have been exempt from such behavior – which sadly is not the case; too bad every one in this category does not follow the amiable example Ricardo.

On the other hand, I consider comical the behavior of the gruesome inhabitants of Palestine, whose brutal governments and primitive “mores” are hardly distinct from members of a certain National Socialist Party from Earth’s bloody history. Worse yet is their audacity to claim any type of “superiority” to South Americans; for at least the former are not mass-murderers wearing the mask of eternal victims.
Epsilon Eridani
written by João da Silva, August 06, 2009
Insulting primitives
written by Episilon Eridani, August 05, 2009


Sir, are you calling me a primitive? If so, I take the liberty of calling you a "Primate", though I must admit that you have certain degree of intelligence, which is not uncommon among the "Primitives" and "Primates".

Worse yet is their audacity to claim any type of “superiority” to South Americans; for at least the former are not mass-murderers wearing the mask of eternal victims.


Here you got it correctly in spite of you being a fascist pig like your Grandpa Mussolini!!!!!
Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 06, 2009

Joao da Silva: “One thing I always admired in you is your fierce loyalty to your friends (which is a very good trait and I recall Augustus mentioning about it).”

Former President Jose Sarney has been receptive and very supportive to our project here in New York about the “Brazilian Cultural Society” since I first invited him to be on the board of trustees of that organization in 2001.

Our relationship is strictly intellectual and former president Sarney agrees with me that Jose Bonifacio of Andrada e Silva is the greatest man in Brazilian history.

Since I started exchanging ideas with Domicio Coutinho about that project in 2001 – we had distinct interests on that project. My major interest was to be in charge of the Jose Bonifacio de Andrada e Silva Center of Brazilian History and Economics Studies.

And Domicio Coutinho was going to be in charge of the cultural area including the Brazilian library, and the other areas related to the arts, photography, theater, and so on…

I almost got the Center of Brazilian History and Economic Studies off the ground in 2001. That attack on the World Trade Center screwed up the entire project, because right after that attack all the funding sources dried out almost overnight.

By the middle of 2002 I gave up on that project, but Domicio Coutinho continued with the other half of our plan, and by December 2007 he had achieved his goal, and the Brazilian Cultural Society has been a great success story. Domicio Coutinho is doing a great job with that organization.

When I first contacted former President Sarney to become a member of the board of trustees, professor Rabassa already had accepted the invitation.

Professor Rabassa is the ultimate authority in translating any literary work from Portugues, or Spanish language into English. Over the years he had translated some of the most important works of the Portuguese language into English including works by Machado de Assis. He also has translated works by Nobel laureates of literature from Spanish into English.

Professor Rabassa also translated various books of former president Sarney into English.

It does not matter what happens to former president Sarney regarding all these political attacks in Brazil. Here in New York former president Sarney will always be welcome and we will threat him with the respect that he deserves.

All these years he has been very supportive of our project here in the US, and now we are reattributing by giving support to former president Sarney now that he is being viciously attacked by all kinds of people.

I hope president Lula keeps supporting former president Sarney, because president Lula will be in better shape if former president Sarney continues as the president of the senate.

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Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 06, 2009

By the way, I also have friends who are Sunni Moslem, and Jewish.

I am not religious myself, and I don't care which religion people follows.

I just Googled the word Exodus to see what I would get, and on a website about Ancient and Classical History I found the following information.


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Exodus

Moses led more than half a million people through the desert. They crossed the Red Sea easily with the help of another miracle: Moses parted the waters so his followers could walk through. Meanwhile, the pharaoh changed his mind about permitting his excellent brick-makers to leave and sent troops to bring them back. When the troops tried to follow the Hebrews across the parted Red Sea, the waters came together again, drowning the pharaoh's men.


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Here is the real story of what happened:

There is only one problem with that information based on estimates about world population since at the time when Moses was supposed to have lived at best a few thousand people participated on this Exodus event.

In reality they probably were on the desert for about 40 days. And one of the fellows who were reporting on that event was ready to write 40 days.

But one of his friends said wait a moment why don’t you embellish a little and say that Moses and his people were lost for 40 years in the desert?

Then he said to his friend that is a good idea, even though some people in the future might think that we must have been a very slow group of people if we could not figure out how to get out of the desert for 40 years; we might end up looking like a bunch of idiots.

Please use the 40 years, because that makes this trip a lot more dramatic than 40 days.

And that is how they decided that Moses and his pals got lost for 40 years in the desert.

And after all that they ended up in the Promised Land – and these guys were supposed to be talking directly to God.

The question is: why Moses did not take his pals to a better place such as the location where we have Saudi Arabia today? At least they would have lots of oil.

That Moses must have been a joker – do you call that a Promised Land; a piece of desert with no oil?

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written by Lula, August 06, 2009
Late last night I sent an email (To his personal email) to my friend former president Jose Sarney, and I told him that he can count with my support, and for him not to panic and hang on despite all the vicious attacks.


Well I'm sure that was a huge weight off his shoulders!!! smilies/cheesy.gif
Third World?
written by titan, August 06, 2009
"Even though the grisly attitude of certain citizens of Third World countries can be explained by the enormous brutality of their history"


By peace loving US of A.

Full article among many at http://www.gensuikin.org/english/photo.html
Titan, Titan, Titan...
written by Truman, August 06, 2009
those bombs saved hundreds of thousands of lives.
i agree, the bombs ended a war that would have killed several million more
written by asp, August 06, 2009
42,000,000 million people died in world war 2. germany and japan and italy started the whole s**t.there inhumanity to their fellow man in that period is one of the all time dirtiest things in history. germany was trying to get the bomb first...thank god they didnt...although i now beleive their are scum bags that think it would have been better if they had discovered it first, the way ass holes talk these days
Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, August 06, 2009
Hi Ricardo,

Thanks for the reply explaining about your relationship with Mr.Sarney. I have many friends whose views I differ from and still maintain the friendship. I guess, it is the same in your case.

I hope president Lula keeps supporting former president Sarney, because president Lula will be in better shape if former president Sarney continues as the president of the senate.


He is an ardent supporter of Mr.Sarney and the latest news is that the Senators from his party have been instructed to throw in their full support also.One has to remember that the Executive Branch can not interfere with the legislative branch according to our constitution of 1988 and in spite of it, Mr.Lula is going all out to defend the former President. That shows how much he values his friendship.

Thanks once again for clarifying.
Atomic Bomb / Exodus comment / President Sarney
written by Augustus, August 06, 2009
In connection with the atomic bomb illustration cordially supplied by “Titan” - undoubtedly an ultra-liberal hovering at the extreme left edge of the Political spectrum - I must wholeheartedly agree with ASP and Truman, further reminding all bloggers that extreme measures are required whenever facing extraordinarily perilous circumstances… No consideration could be spared or waived in order to deter the Fascist clouds which threatened the entire world in the middle of the 20th century.

Regarding Mr. Amaral’s “Exodus” query, I must express my relative disappointment, for it appears frivolous, for an educated man of his stature to toy with absurd concepts, unless of course, such query were to be placed under the same category as “The Birth of Venus” or “Valhalla”; since there would be nothing inappropriate with the study of Comparative Mythologies…

As for the issue with President Sarney, I must admit that while having always personally admire his political career as well as some members of his family, I am disappointed with the extent of some allegations as well as devastated by his political alliance with a man I consider particularly despicable: the current self-appointed “ruler” of the Brazilian Nation (who not only is an uneducated, grotesque lowlife, but also an “associate” of the likes of Hugo Chavez, Evo Morales, and Fidel Castro – the three stogies of Latin America)
Augustus
written by João da Silva, August 06, 2009
Regarding Mr. Amaral’s “Exodus” query, I must express my relative disappointment, for it appears frivolous, for an educated man of his stature to toy with absurd concepts, unless of course, such query were to be placed under the same category as “The Birth of Venus” or “Valhalla”; since there would be nothing inappropriate with the study of Comparative Mythologies…


Mr.Amaral is merely questioning the "Mythologies" and I wonder why you should express your "Disappointment". You have stated several times in the past in this site (as well as your blog) that you are an atheist. IMHO, the difference between him and you is that he is quite dismissive of all the religions and you are selective in your choice. "Dois pesos e Duas medidas"?

As for the issue with President Sarney, I must admit that while having always personally admire his political career as well as some members of his family, I am disappointed with the extent of some allegations as well as devastated by his political alliance with a man I consider particularly despicable: the current self-appointed “ruler” of the Brazilian Nation (who not only is an uneducated, grotesque lowlife, but also an “associate” of the likes of Hugo Chavez, Evo Morales, and Fidel Castro – the three stogies of Latin America)


As a person that is apolitical and does not trust "Politicos", I must say in all fairness to Mr.Sarney. He was mainly responsible (and still is) for blocking the entry of Venezuela into Mercosul, because he thinks that ASP´s arch-rival Hugh is playing with the constitution of that country. As for your compliments to Truman, I refuse to comment, since I was not even born when that old "Haberdasher" was presiding the U.S. of A.

Any questions?
Birth & History
written by Augustus, August 07, 2009
On account of your “Truman Rebuttal”…
As for your compliments to Truman, I refuse to comment, since I was not even born when that old "Haberdasher" was presiding the U.S. of A.

Should anyone who wishes to “make comments” upon events taking place during the British Restoration Period or the French Revolution be equally compelled to give up such endeavors simply because they were not contemporaries of either Charles II or Louis XVI?

In essence, THAT would be my sole question.
Reply to Augustus
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 07, 2009

The Exodus gives a lot of material for any comedian to use it on his nightclub act, for example:

When the river turned into blood that was the first major industrial accident in history when a paint factory up the river blow up causing a massive environment mess – they had red paint all over the place.

Then they had their version of the Ebola virus epidemic and most of the first-born died.

Then the Egyptian King let Moses take the slaves to the Promised Land – all 4,000 of them.

After the slaves left town the King realized who’s going to do the work?

Them he told his generals go and tell Moses to bring the slaves back ASAP.

I love that part when Charlton Heston says Abra Cadabra and Moses Parts the Red Sea.

Then Moses and his pals got lost in the desert for 40 years – there is a reason why these people were lost in the desert for 40 years – these were not the smartest people around, they were just slaves with no education – and I guess they also did not have a minimum of common sense otherwise they would have figured out how to get out of that desert in a matter of weeks or even a few months.

When Moses was in the top of the mountain smoking something real powerful – so powerful that he ended up talking to some burning bushes. He was so wasted that he got inspired and he came up with the fifteen commandments.

The Mel Brooks film History of The World Part 1 shows why the Jews ended up with only 10 commandments – Moses was so wasted when he came down from the mountain that he dropped one tablet with 5 commandments. Then he figure out 10 commandments was good enough, since most people were not going to follow them anyway.

I guess today Hollywood can create better special effects than Moses ever did create during the Exodus.

Today we have some very good magicians and illusionists such as David Copperfield, Siegfried and Roy, Penn & Teller, Doug Henning, and many others. But Moses was the greatest performer of his time – he was a big hit and he had no competitors; he was the only show in town.

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Reply to Augustus
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 07, 2009

You are being too hard on president Lula.

Brazil is in the best shape that I can remember economically, and in stature around the world. President Lula has surrounded himself with first-rate group of people such as Central Banker Henrique Meirelles, Finance Minister Antonio Palocci, Secretary of State Celso Amorim, Minister of Communications Helio Costa, and so on…

He also has been receiving advice all these years from former president Jose Sarney – one of the most influential politicians in Brazil.

Lula has become an international superstar if like it or not. It does not matter where president Lula goes to England, Germany, or the United States – when there is a meeting of the G-20 anywhere the president or prime minister of the host country always place Lula right on a prominent position – next to the leader of the host country.

It does not bother me a bit that Lula is a friend of Chavez, Morales, and Fidel. He is also very friendly with Barack Obama, Gordon Brown and many other leaders.

I would say that president Lula has been an asset for Brazil in the international arena.

You should open your mind and take the good with the bad instead of being a slave to your preconceived ideas

I would say you are judging president Lula too harshly when you take in consideration his cultural and socio-economic background. He has been doing much better than I ever expected.

In my opinion, you used a very poor choice of words to refer to president Lula: “(who not only is an uneducated, grotesque lowlife…)”

I consider myself lucky as far as my family lineage and background, but I admire president Lula for achieving all he has achieved on his life even with all the odds against him.

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Reply to Augustus
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 07, 2009
Correction:

You are being too hard on president Lula.

Brazil is in the best shape that I can remember economically, and in stature around the world. President Lula has surrounded himself with first-rate group of people such as Central Banker Henrique Meirelles, Finance Minister Antonio Palocci, Secretary of State Celso Amorim, Minister of Communications Helio Costa, and so on…

He also has been receiving very good advice all these years from former president Jose Sarney – one of the most influential politicians in Brazil.

Lula has become an international superstar if you like it or not. It does not matter where president Lula goes to including England, Germany, or the United States – when they have a meeting of the G-20 anywhere in the world, the president or prime minister of the host country always place Lula right on a prominent position, right next to the leader of the host country.

It does not bother me a bit that Lula is a friend of Chavez, Morales, and Fidel. He is also very friendly with people such as Barack Obama, Gordon Brown and many other leaders.

I would say that president Lula has been an asset for Brazil in the international arena.

You should open your mind and take the good with the bad instead of being a slave to your preconceived ideas

I would say you are judging president Lula too harshly, and you are not taking in consideration his cultural and socio-economic background. He has been doing much better than I ever expected when he was elected president.

In my opinion, you used a very poor choice of words to refer to president Lula: “(who not only is an uneducated, grotesque lowlife…)”

I consider myself lucky as far as my family lineage and background, but I admire president Lula for achieving all he has achieved on his life even with all the odds being against him.

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Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, August 07, 2009
Finance Minister Antonio Palocci,


Hi,

A Correction: Dr.Antonio is no longer the Finance Minister. He was replaced by Dr.Guido a long time ago.
Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 08, 2009

Joao da Silva: A Correction: Dr.Antonio is no longer the Finance Minister. He was replaced by Dr.Guido a long time ago.


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Ricardo: I know Antonio Palocci is not the current Finance Minister. But when he was the Finance Minister in one of the trips that he made to New York with president Lula I had the opportunity to meet him, and we had a nice conversation. I suggested to Antonio Palocci that Brazil should adopt the “New Asian Currency.”

I thought Antonio Palocci was a very good Finance Minister during his tenure.

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written by Greenspan, August 08, 2009
I suggested to Antonio Palocci that Brazil should adopt the “New Asian Currency.”


It looks like they took your advice to heart. About as much as we do here at Brazzil.com smilies/cheesy.gif

What do they say, "a legend in your own mind". smilies/grin.gif
Reply to Greenspan
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 08, 2009

Greenspan: "It looks like they took your advice to heart. About as much as we do here at Brazzil.com

What do they say, "a legend in your own mind"."


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Ricardo: If everybody had the same mindset that you have we still be a caveman.

You have no idea how ideas are develop over time and eventually are implemented.

Your comment shows how shortsighted you are more than anything else.

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Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, August 09, 2009
Ricardo: I know Antonio Palocci is not the current Finance Minister.


Sorry, Ricardo. I thought you didn't know.

I thought Antonio Palocci was a very good Finance Minister during his tenure.


Yes, he was and as a Federal Deputy elected in 2006 by a large number of votes from his constituency in Ribeirão Preto, continues contributing to good governance.

But Dr.Guido is also a very good Finance Minister. He is a very sharp professional and knows what he is talking. Extremely competent Economist. I don't know if you are aware that he was the President of BNDES.
Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 09, 2009

Guido Mantega is also a good economist.

President Lula has made a good choices regarding his economic team.

I just received an email about my article about the "New Asian Currency" that I will post on the comments section of my article plus my reply to the fellow who sent me that email.

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written by Dr. John Nash, August 09, 2009
You have no idea how ideas are develop over time and eventually are implemented.



Ohhhh, so Brazil is in the implentation process of acquiring a "new asian currency"? They've read your articles and are seriously considering implentation?

Megalomania (from the Greek word μεγαλομανία; megalo-, meaning large, and mania) is a historical term for behavior characterized by an obsession or preoccupation with wealth, power, genius, or omnipotence - often generally termed as delusions of grandeur or grandiose delusions.

Megalomania denotes an obsession with having and/or obtaining, grandiosity and extravagance (especially in the form of great fame and popularity, material wealth, social influence or political power, or more than one or even all of the aforesaid). It may be a symptom of manic or paranoid disorders.[citation needed] However it is not considered a distinct mental disorder of itself according to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.

Delusions of grandeur, commonly seen in psychosis, may be seen as distinct from megalomania: a megalomaniac's overwhelming and excessive preoccupation with his or her own importance, though it may be considered pathological, is not necessarily delusional. A delusion of grandeur, if it is a true delusion, must meet the psychiatric criteria for delusion.



I think mental illness or madness can be an escape also. People don't develop a mental illness because they are in the happiest of situations usually. One doctor observed that it was rare when people were rich to become schizophrenic. If they were poor or didn't have too much money, then it was more likely. And this is natural, if things are very good, you can find satisfaction with the world as it is, as it seems to be. If things are not so good, you may be one to imagine something better.

For me, I was able to imagine myself as in a role of greater importance than I would seem to be ordinarily. At the time, I had some recognition. I was making some progress professionally, but I wasn't really at the top. I didn't have top level recognition, and so when I started thinking irrationally, I imagined myself as really on a Number 1 level. I was the most important person of the world, and people like the Pope would be just like enemies, who would try to put me down in some way or another, or the president.

I once rejected a prestigious academic chair on the grounds that I was due to be enthroned as the Emperor of Antarctica.



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About the bombs
written by A Brazilian, August 09, 2009
those bombs saved hundreds of thousands of lives.


This rationalization of genocide has several problems. First, they could have dropped a bomb in some non-inhabitted island just to show off what Japan could suffer if they didn't surrender, thus minimizing civilian casualties. But they didn't. They specifically targeted an urban area filled of thousands of women, children and other non-combatant civilians because they wanted to test the effects of the bomb and see what it could do.

The second bomb was just criminal, pure and simple. The japaneses government was already thinking about surrender.

So, yes, this is one of the many genocides the American government and people are responsible for.

None of those bombs served any military goal, it was just genocide.
Abe
written by Fat Man&Little Boy, August 09, 2009
still having problems I see. The situation in WWII and the dropping of the A-bombs hardly fit the description of "genocide".

The japaneses government was already thinking about surrender.


Well, they were "thinking" about it huh? Guess they should've thought a little faster. FatBoy was not dropped until 3 days later. One would think they should've surrendered immediately after the 1st.

And whatever ones feelings about it may be, the facts are, that those bombs saved hundreds of thousands of lives, at a minimum.
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written by A Brazilian, August 09, 2009
And whatever ones feelings about it may be, the facts are, that those bombs saved hundreds of thousands of lives, at a minimum.


The facts are that hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians (women, children, elder people, etc) were brutally murdered in an attack that had no military purpose whatsoever.

Your rationalization fails because the reality is not an "either/or" situation. There were a number of different ways to act against the japanese government including the use of a bomb in a non-inhabitted place just to prove what the allies could do. The mass murder was a deliberate choice of the American government and people.
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written by Fat Man&Little Boy, August 10, 2009
including the use of a bomb in a non-inhabitted place just to prove what the allies could do.


Well, if that's your logic, then I guess the Japanese should have conducted their surprise attack on Pearl Harbor at the salt plains in Death Valley, Calif.!

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written by A Brazilian, August 10, 2009
Well, if that's your logic, then I guess the Japanese should have conducted their surprise attack on Pearl Harbor at the salt plains in Death Valley, Calif.!


Pearl Harbor was an attack against the US military that served a military goeal, i.e., debilitate the American navy. Soldiers died, and dying is their job. I don't feel sorry when soldiers die, because they know what they are up to when they sign in.

That's a lot different than murdering children, women and people that weren't fighting. Hundreds of thousands died in those attacks and many more died in the following months because of the effects of the radiation.

If you agree with this kind of thinking then you and Saddam Hussein have a lot in common.
A Brazilian
written by João da Silva, August 10, 2009
While I warmly welcome you back to this blog after your long absence, I must point out that there are certain "Incoherências" in your statements. One glaring example is the following statement:

If you agree with this kind of thinking then you and Saddam Hussein have a lot in common.


Saddam Hussein was hanged by a Kangaroo court set up by his own people as well as the invaders, whereas Hirohito was spared by McArthur (though some historians say that the "Haberdasher" president wanted to hang the emperor of Japan and McArthur convinced him not to do so).

Another example is:

The mass murder was a deliberate choice of the American government and people.


Was it the deliberate choice of the American people? What makes you say so? You know as well as I do that the "people" all over the world can be mislead by their "Rulers"

By loosely using the name of Saddam Hussein and comparing the previous commentator with him, I am afraid you lost your credibility. Regardless, it was great to hear from you again!


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written by A Brazilian, August 10, 2009
Was it the deliberate choice of the American people? What makes you say so?


The fact that to this day they try to justify mass murder is enough to show that they do support their leaders actions and are responsible for them.

By the way, little before the war Americans (and many others accross the world) admired Hitler and his "racial hygiene" policies, which were largely inspired by the American laws for eugenics. Many American cientists complained that Hitler was beating them in their own game.

See, no heroes.

Later such organizations for eugenics changed their strategy to "family planning", like Planned Parenthood, and they still continue operating targeting specific ethnic groups for abortions.

By loosely using the name of Saddam Hussein and comparing the previous commentator with him, I am afraid you lost your credibility.


Why? Wasn't Saddam Hussein a mass murderer? If you support mass murder aren't you supporting people like Saddam Hussein?

The comparison is perfectly logical.
Reply to Dr. John Nash
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 10, 2009

John Nash: Ohhhh, so Brazil is in the implementation process of acquiring a "new Asian currency"? They've read your articles and are seriously considering implementation?


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Ricardo: I have a question for you – Did you get your Dr. degree by correspondence? They have a lot of diploma mills in the internet these days. You pay a few bucks and you can get any type of advanced degrees that you want.

And now you are even able to cut and paste info from the internet and you are trying to play Dr. Freud – impressive overnight you are an expert in mental illness or madness.

You said: “I was able to imagine myself as in a role of greater importance…”

That’s why you are trying to practice you type of cheap psychology on this website. You probably can’t get real patients with your fake degree.

By the way, I have been writing about Brazil adopting a new currency for over 10 years. I have published many articles on that subject for a long time. And Brazil could not be in the implementation process of a currency that does not exist right now. But might be in the process of being created in the near future.

If you are a real Doctor, you must be a real Jackass. What do you say to your patients please don’t have a new idea, because that would be considered Megalomania, Delusions of grandeur and worse yet - mental illness or madness.

That probably what you would have said to the people who were trying to create and implement the euro as the new European currency.

Mediocre Doctors like yourself are the ones who give a bad name for your profession.

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Reply to Dr. John Nash
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 10, 2009

Ricardo: I said: “You have no idea how ideas are develop over time and eventually are implemented.”

I have no idea what kind of doctor you are, but based on your reply you can’t be a good one – you must be very incompetent.

On your view anyone who is trying to develop new ideas – or is trying to start a debate about a new subject – on you shortsighted mindset that person is considered to suffer from Megalomania, Delusions of grandeur and worse yet - mental illness or madness.

If a lot of critics like yourself and Greenspan populated the world, then the world still would be stuck on the Stone Age.

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Reply to A Brazilian
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 10, 2009

A Brazilian: “The facts are that hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians (women, children, elder people, etc) were brutally murdered in an attack that had no military purpose whatsoever.”


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Ricardo: I used to wonder why the United States dropped the two atomic bombs: one in Hiroshima, and the other in Nagasaki in 1945 in a matter of 3 days?

I could understand why the U.S. had to drop the first atomic bomb, but took me years to realize why the U.S. dropped the second atomic bomb in Japan.

On 6th August 1945, the nuclear weapon Little Boy was dropped on Hiroshima, killing an estimated 80,000 civilians and heavily damaging the city.

On 9 August 1945, Nagasaki was the target of the world's second atomic bomb attack at 11:02 a. m. on 9 August 1945, the nuclear weapon Fat Boy was dropped in Nagasaki, when the north of the city was destroyed and an estimated 70,000 people killed outright with another 70,000 doomed to die of bomb-related causes in the decades that followed. The Nagasaki bomb, dropped by the Boeing B-29 Bockscar was much more explosive bomb (22 kilotons of TNT as opposed to 13) than the bomb dropped on Hiroshima three days earlier and was a plutonium bomb, whereas the Hiroshima bomb was a uranium bomb.

Basically the U.S. dropped the second atomic bomb in Japan just as a weapons test, since they were two different types of atomic bombs, then the U.S. had to drop the second bomb, because they had to test which type of bomb was a more effective weapon of mass destruction.

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written by Fat Man&Little Boy, August 10, 2009
By loosely using the name of Saddam Hussein and comparing the previous commentator with him, I am afraid you lost your credibility.


One has to achieve credibility in the first place to be able to lose it!


If you are a real Doctor, you must be a real Jackass. What do you say to your patients please don’t have a new idea, because that would be considered Megalomania, Delusions of grandeur and worse yet - mental illness or madness.


No, it's not that. It's more your inferences, or delusions, that the people in power in brazil actually take your wild theories and suggestions seriously.

As for any doubts about my credibility, I think you'll find my references more than sufficient.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Forbes_Nash

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A New low for a member of Brazzil magazine
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 10, 2009

Reply to fake Doctor Nash

Talking about what you said on your posting: "I was able to imagine myself as in a role of greater importance..."

You are a real idiot. You are trying to impersonate the crazy Doctor from Princeton University.

I don't find that funny. That Doctor was mentaly ill, and here you are using his name just as a joke.

You are a real Jackass.

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written by Dr. John Nash, August 10, 2009
You are trying to impersonate the crazy Doctor from Princeton University.



Wow...you are quick! Brazil, or any other country for that matter, should definitely implement your suggestions especially seeing how perceptive you are!!! smilies/cheesy.gif
Reply to Fake Dr. John Nash
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 10, 2009

I am not sure that the real Dr. John Nash still alive. Even if he still alive he might be on a mental institution.

Even if he still is out of a mental institution Dr. John Nash would not be wasting his time reading this article about Israel on Brazzil magazine since he was publicly known to be anti-Semitic.

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written by Adolf, August 10, 2009
Even if he still is out of a mental institution Dr. John Nash would not be wasting his time reading this article about Israel on Brazzil magazine since he was publicly known to be anti-Semitic.


So anti-semetics don't read about Israel? And about them financing and promoting repression?

Are you nuts? Anti-semetics write these types of articles the majority of the time!

"New Asian Currency"......I just fell off my chair! smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by Manda Chuva, August 10, 2009
I just fell off my chair!


Was your chair made in PRC and paid with the New Currency?
Reply to Adolfo and Manda Chuva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 11, 2009

Part 1 of 2


Ricardo: I posted the following article on the Elite Trader Forum a few days ago.


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August 6, 2009

SouthAmerica: This marriage might end up in a nasty divorce.

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“Financial marriage between China and the US on the rocks”

Saver Beijing contemplates a divorce from big-spender Washington as it looks for new ways to have its economic needs met

Bangkok Post (Thailand)
Published: August 1, 2009

Niall Ferguson is a professor of history at Harvard University and a professor of business administration at Harvard Business School. His most recent book is The Ascent of Money: A Financial History of the World. He spoke with Global Viewpoint Network editor Nathan Gardels as the US and China sat down this week for a "strategic dialogue" in Washington - the "G-2" meeting.

Nathan Gardels: Despite all the other issues on his plate, President Barack Obama's overarching challenge over the course of his administration is correcting the imbalance with China. More than anything else, as you have noted, it has been China's strategy of dollar-reserve accumulation that financed America's debt habit. Chinese savings were a key reason US long-term interest rates stayed low and the borrowing binge kept going. Now that the age of leverage is over, what is the key to maintaining the partnership between the big saver and the big spender?

Niall Ferguson: My friend Moritz Schularick and I came up with the idea of "Chimerica" back at the end of 2006. We were trying to explain the global financial boom, with its correlated upward movement of virtually every asset class.

We decided the answer was that China and America had effectively fused to become a single economy: Chimerica. The Chinese did the saving, the Americans the spending. The Chinese did the exporting, the Americans the importing. The Chinese did the lending, the Americans the borrowing.

As the Chinese strategy was based on export-led growth, they had no desire to see their currency appreciate against the dollar. So they intervened consistently in currency markets, and as a result have now got international reserves totalling $2.1 trillion (70 trillion baht). Around 70% of these are in dollar-denominated securities, and a large proportion of these are in US government bonds.

The unintended effect of this was to help finance the US current account deficit at very low interest rates. Without that, it's hard to believe that US financial markets would have bubbled the way they did in the period 2002 to 2007.

The big question is now whether or not Chimerica is a marriage on the rocks. The financial crisis has brought the age of leverage to an end in the sense that America's highly indebted consumers really cannot borrow any more. The US savings rate is soaring upwards, and US imports from China have declined significantly. The Chinese trade figures tell the same story: Exports have collapsed.

Of course, that doesn't mean the Chinese are going to stop buying dollars. They daren't allow their currency to appreciate when so many jobs in the export sector are under threat. But it does mean that they are questioning the "Chimerica" strategy.

I would say this is a bit like one of those marriages between a saver and a spender. It can work for a certain period of time, but then the saver gets disillusioned with the spendthrift spouse. Every time the Chinese complain about American profligacy, it reminds me of one of those domestic tiffs in which the saver says to the spender: "You maxed out on the credit cards, but now I am going to cut them up." Except that it's a threat the Chinese aren't quite ready to carry out.

Reply to Adolfo and Manda Chuva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 11, 2009

Part 2 of 2


Gardels: The Obama administration is seeking to borrow billions from the Chinese to finance its stimulus and bailout packages to get the economy going again. What if the Chinese don't buy those Treasuries? Why wouldn't they?

Ferguson: Let's look at the numbers. China's holdings of US Treasuries rose to $801.5 billion in May, an increase of 5% from $763.5 billion in April. Call it $40 billion a month. And let's just imagine the Chinese do that every month through this fiscal year. That would be a credit line to the US government of $480 billion. Considering the total deficit is forecast to be around $2 trillion, that means the Chinese could conceivably finance less than a quarter of total federal government borrowing (whereas a few years ago they were financing virtually the whole deficit).

The trouble is that the Chinese clearly feel they have enough US government bonds. Their great anxiety is that the Obama administration's very lax fiscal policy plus the Federal Reserve's policy of quantitative easing (in layman's terms, printing money) are going to cause one or both of two things to happen: The price of US bonds could fall and/or the purchasing power of the dollar could fall.

Either way the Chinese lose. Their current strategy is to shift their purchases to the short end of the yield curve, buying Treasury bills instead of 10-year bonds. But that doesn't address the currency risk.

Gardels: What is China's alternative if it seeks a divorce from Chimerica?

Ferguson: I'd call it the empire or superpower option. Instead of continuing in this unhappy marriage, the Chinese can go it alone, counting on their growing economic might (their gross domestic product could equal that of the US by 2030) to buy them global power in their own right.

In some ways they've already begun doing this. Their naval strategy implies a challenge to US hegemony in the Asia-Pacific region. Their investments in African minerals and infrastructure look distinctly imperial to me. And now the official line from [Prime Minister] Wen Jiabao is "hasten the implementation of our 'going out' strategy and combine the utilisation of foreign exchange reserves with the 'going out' of our enterprises".

That sounds like the start of a Chinese campaign to buy a lot of foreign assets. But at the same time, crucially, they need to have their own domestic consumers step up to take the place of over-leveraged Americans. China's economy is above all a manufacturing concern. If no one is going to the shopping malls, their companies are just building their inventories. So a post-Chimerican China needs to be not only an empire but also a consumer society. That means getting ordinary Chinese households to save less and spend more.

Gardels: China seems to have embraced the Special Drawing Rights idea of a basket of currencies to replace the dollar as the reserve currency. Isn't this like "serving papers" - it shows China's intention of breaking up Chimerica over the longer term? Or, are they just hedging their bets?

Ferguson: Yes, I think they are "serving papers", or at least threatening to do so. I don't myself believe that it's practical to turn International Monetary Fund Special Drawing Rights into a new world currency. They're purely an accounting device, not proper money. But I do see the euro and the yen playing a bigger role in Chinese reserves.

I also see a day within the next five to 10 years when the Chinese will feel ready to remove their capital controls and allow their own currency, the renminbi, to develop as an international currency. At that point the Chimerican marriage really will be over. And, after all, that's what Moritz Schularick and I always said would happen. We called it "Chimerica" because we thought that such an unbalanced relationship would eventually prove to be a chimera.

Gardels: What are the global strategic implications of such a divorce?

Ferguson: Imagine a new Cold War but one in which the two superpowers are economically the same size, which was never true in the old Cold War because the USSR was always a lot poorer than the USA.

Or, if you prefer an older analogy, imagine a rerun of the Anglo-German antagonism of the early 1900s, with America in the role of Britain and China in the role of imperial Germany. This is a better analogy because it captures the fact that a high level of economic integration does not necessarily prevent the growth of strategic rivalry and ultimately conflict.

We are a long way from outright warfare, of course. These things build quite slowly. But the geopolitical tectonic plates are moving, and moving fast. The end of Chimerica is causing India and the United States to become more closely aligned. It's creating an opportunity for Moscow to forge closer links to Beijing.

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Reply to Adolfo
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 12, 2009

Adolfo: "New Asian Currency"......I just fell off my chair!


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Ricardo: Here is some more information to help you to fall over a cliff.

I want to see you laugh about that.


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Ricardo C. Amaral: Even the Japanese are starting to wake up. Let me translate for you what they mean by: “regional currency union”

“Regional currency union” = “New Asian Currency.”

This article was published on the front page of the Financial Times.


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“Japanese poll leader in attack on 'US-led market fundamentalism'”
By Mure Dickie in Tokyo
Financial Times (UK)
Published: August 11, 2009

Yukio Hatoyama, the leader of Japan's opposition Democratic party who is strongly placed to become prime minister after elections this month, has condemned "US-led market fundamentalism" and vowed to shield his nation from the effects of untrammelled globalisation.

With the era of US unilateralism ending and worries about the dollar's future role growing, Japan should also work towards regional currency union and political integration in an "east Asian community", Mr Hatoyama wrote in an essay published yesterday in the Japanese magazine Voice…

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If's, ands, and but's...
written by Santa, August 12, 2009
if only they were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry X-mas! smilies/grin.gif
Reply to If's, ands, and but's...
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 12, 2009

Santa: if only they were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry X-mas!

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Ricardo: That's probably what you would be posting on the internet, before they actually create the euro.

You are not a person that has any foresight. You are just a Monday morning Quarterback.

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now where man
written by Simps, August 14, 2009
B4J3SUS2NUTSCOOK5DEADFISH450K

In cribbage, it's rare to have the perfect 19 hand to play up against that of your opponent. 29 is also a peculiar a prime number but one I'm sure my friends in Pakistan should find useful should they care to punch in the provided launch codes - it's entirely their call, not USs.

Too bad can't see things on RCA anymore.
You could extend your hand to a Brazilian?
written by Wellington Silva, August 18, 2009
PROJECT IN BRAZIL BUILDING WITHOUT THE NEED FOR NATURE

Agreda.
Respect for nature!

You can help us achieve this dream?
Help us to spread this request to other pages on the internet.

Hello,

If possible, we need your assistance (donations) for this project where we want to build a house in the City of ecologically correct Pirambu - Sergipoe - Brazil.
I am Brazilian, living in the city of Aracaju - Brazil.
I have an excellent land in the tourist town of Pirambu, coastal town located 32 km. in Aracaju, Sergipe - Brazil.
Want to use my land to build a house in this area ecologically correct to show the man who can build good and beautiful places on the coast, without harming the nature.
I want to do this project, a reference in the region (Northeastern Brazil), to show the regional community and, if possible at all Brazilian who can build houses to live without the need to harm nature.
For this we need your valuable assistance in the realization of this dream (project).
I need donations, may be of material Ecological building the house, or money to buy the material for construction.
Our commitment to you is to inform you if you want the whole progress of the construction of the house until its final conclusion.
I invite you to participate in this project but will have little but their importance for the good of nature.
Let's show the man who can and should respect nature and we can build without the need to harm the environment.

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Your help has two purpose the realization of our dream to build the house proper, and while this home will refeencia to show the Northeast of Brazil and perhaps for all of Brazil, we can live in well with nature without necessiade of agredila .

Sinceramenmte their collaboration will be important to realize this dream, your donation may be 1 cent or $ 1 million dollars, the important and your participation in the realization of this dream and know that every brick for this house, has your participation too.
Thank you to everyone who helped and those who might not have had more help the good intention.
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City of Pirambu-Sergipe - Brazil

I am a Brazilian anonymous, but I have a duty to contribute to the preservation of nature.
just read this crap about the a bombs in japan
written by asp, August 27, 2009
what a bunch of fariy tales, made by people who have no idea what they are talking about

i had on uncle waiting on the boats ready to invade japan, thank god they droped the bombs, it save millions of lives

the japanese had no intention of surrendering...

what the fuch you idiots, it was world war 2 , 42 million people died in it because of germany and japan....take that anti americanistic paranoid cold war propaganda from the soveit union and shove it
Milking the Holocaust to the bone.
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 28, 2009

Ricardo: Today when I received my copy of the “Financial Times” (UK) I was surprised to see a picture of Netanyahu (the Israeli Prime Minister) visiting Auschwitz (for the usual photo up) that took half of the front page of that newspaper. (I wonder if that was the best that newspaper could do and if that was the most important news the Financial Times could find around the world today to place on its front page?)

I was wondering how effective must be these photo up’s today when most of us we not even born when the holocaust happened a long time ago. Besides the Jews have milked to the bone that theme over the years, and the reality today is that most people can associate the Jewish state (Israel) with repression of the people from Gaza, and the total destruction of a country Lebanon when the Israeli Army killed thousands of defenseless senior citizens, woman, and children.

One would think that the past history of repression against the Jewish people would teach them, but it seems to me that the only lesson they learnt is repression and massive violence.

The Jewish community is so out of touch with reality and the world perception of the Israelis today, that they decided to make movies where they killed all the Nazis and they changed the end of World War II.

I saw the movie “Inglourious Basterds” with Brad Pitt, an attempt of the Jewish community to change world history. The sad part is that the young generation (that usually are clueless about world history) is going to think that the way they depict World War II history in this movie is real.

The Jews are becoming completely delusional about the perception that people have about them and about the Jewish state – Israel.

The article on the Financial Times said that Benjamin Netanyahu and his foreign minister Avignor Lieberman would do anything to avoid restarting the peace talks with the Palestinians, and Mr. Lieberman venture to say that the next 16 years offered scarcely better prospects.

In essence Barack Obama should not waste any time with these guys from Israel – I guess Barack Obama must have something more productive to do with his time than wasting his time and energy with these fools.

The United States look very foolish by sending year after year any foreign aid to these guys, which goes completely against the self interest of the United States as a country anyway.

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written by JEFF LAU, August 30, 2009
OLD REHASHED SCARE TACTICS OF THE COLD WAR ANTI SEMETIC HATE MONGERS WHO LOSE RELEVANCE WHEN PEACE IS MADE ANYWHERE ON EARTH.
THE AUTHOR WOULD HAVE A CARTOON OF BRAZIL ATOP A CHAIR AFRAID OF THE MOUSE AND EXPECT US TO TAKE IT AS REALITY.
SOME JOB RETRAINING FOR HIS TERRORIST FRIENDS WOULD GO A LONG WAY IN MAKING REAL PEACE.
Regarding Israel
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 30, 2009


This information is more relevant to this thread than the discussion that is going on about Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia, and South America.


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Ricardo: There’s nothing “cartoonish” about what I see on the news on a regular basis.

A Palestian boy with a slingshot being shot to death by heavily armed Israeli soldiers that made headlines around the world.

Or the complete destruction of a country from the air – dropping a massive amount of cluster bombs that still killing many kids in Lebanon to this day because they think that these little pieces of metal left behind by these bombs are toys and then they blow up on the kids face.

We saw the devastation on a daily basis and the bodies of senior citizens, woman and children on the news as the result of where the Israelis had dropped their bombs.

We see all the time the same devastation happening on the Gaza strip where Israeli gunships come on a regular basis and bombard civilian areas to the ground.

There’s nothing “cartoonish” about any of these constant Massacres (carnificina) inflicted by the Israelis on very vulnerable and unprotected people.

And that is the image that has been projected by the mainstream media to the rest of world to see about Israel – an image of severe repression, ruthlessness, and unbridled tyranny.


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Asp: im not tired of remembering world war 2 and the holocaust. it just educates me more and more of the real evil and depth of horror that humans can go to and makes me happy that my country is engaged in the world, inspite of having made some horrible blunders under really bad leadership...no i dont want to forget at all


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Ricardo: You have the right to live on the past. Maybe if you live long enough in the 1940’s to 1960’s then you might be able to fix it the way you want.

Sorry my friend, but I am more concerned and interested about the future and the things that can be accomplished today and in the future.

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written by carlos wutke barwick, September 05, 2009
The jews are very selfish race...$$$ and Moses is what matter to them.The world should boycott Israel untill it returns part of the land that belongs to the Palestinians and recognize Palestine as a nation.The problem is that Washington is full of jews...I have a little jewish blood in my veins running as i do have christians also, but the jews from Israel(not America) are a royal pain in the ASS !!! Free Palestine and return it's land and will talk.
Israel is "barking on the wrong tree"
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, October 25, 2009

This thread was posted on the Elite Trader Politics and Religion Forum under the thread name - Israel is "barking on the wrong tree" - suddenly the thread was erased from that website when we started discussing the Jewish Lobby and its influence on the US government policies.

Since I always keep a copy of the postings I am re-posting the information which was deleted from the ET Forum, but it is relevant to the above discussions regarding the above article anyway...


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Part 1 of 12


10-21-09 11:11 AM

October 21, 2009

SouthAmerica: Brazil is a Secular country and Brazilians are secular people.

Brazilians support Iran’s right to develop nuclear weapons – and nuclear weapons development is the business of the Iranian government, the Iranian people and nobody else.

And Brazilians don’t care about Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad personal opinion about the Holocaust.


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Brazil criticized for visit by Iran's president
Reuters - Tue Oct 20, 2009

BRASILIA (Reuters) - Jewish leaders on Tuesday criticized Brazil's plans to receive Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad next month and urged the South American nation to condemn his denial of the Holocaust and "support of international terrorism."

Brazil, which has defended dialogue and engagement with Iran, is due to get a visit from Ahmadinejad in late November.

"For us, it is very sad to know that Brazil will receive a man who publicly says he wants to destroy our country," Israeli Chief Rabbi Yona Metzger told reporters after meeting with Brazil's Senate chief, Jose Sarney.

Metzger, who participated in a religious seminar in the capital, Brasilia, urged Brazilian authorities to call off the visit.

The Simon Wiesenthal Center, or SWC, a Jewish human rights organization, said Brazil should use the visit to condemn what it described as Ahmadinejad's anti-Semitic rhetoric.

"Brazil will have the opportunity ... to condemn his dangerous calls for the destruction of Israel, his denial of the Holocaust, and his support of international terrorism," Shimon Samuels and Sergio Widder of SWC Latin America in Buenos Aires said in a letter to Brazilian Foreign Minister Celso Amorim.

In an e-mailed statement, they said Iran harbored terrorists involved in the 1994 bombing of a Jewish community center in Buenos Aires that killed 85 people. Iran has repeatedly denied any link to the attack.

Brazil's Foreign Ministry had no immediate comment on the Jewish leaders' remarks but reaffirmed its position of promoting engagement with Iran.

Brazil, a rising diplomatic power campaigning to gain a permanent seat at the U.N. Security Council, has adopted a more conciliatory line toward Iran than Western allies, including the United States.

President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva urged Western leaders last month to stop pushing Iran over its nuclear program and instead talk to it to foster peace.

Israeli President Shimon Peres is expected to visit Brazil later this year.


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Part 2 of 12


10-22-09 07:04 AM

Quote from trefoil:

3 - The Holocaust was real. Ahmadenijad is a Holocaust denier. This puts him, and the Iranian government which so obviously supports him, beyond the Pale of civilization. Everyone, including the Iranian government, understands that the minute Iran gets the bomb, they will be bombed, relentlessly and without mercy, by Israel. Everyone, including the Iranian government, also knows this will be an act of self-defense.


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SouthAmerica: Nobody cares about the Holocaust anymore.

The world have been watching what Israel did to Lebanon, and to the people in Gaza in the last few years - and that we all saw live on CNN news and on the BBC.

And stop saying that Israel is going to bomb Iran. Today Israel don't have the balls to attack Iran.

It is all empty threats and nothing else.

Pakistan another Moslem country has about 100 nuclear warheads, and that neutralizes any tough talk from Israel.

If Israel had any plans to bomb Iran they would have done by now.

Even here in the United States Americans started realizing that all the support that the US has been giving to Israel all these years goes against US self-interest on that area of the world.

I dare Israel to Bomb Iran.

I don't think Israel has the guts to do it today.


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Israel is "barking on the wrong tree"
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, October 25, 2009

Part 3 of 12


10-23-09 02:45 AM

Quote from southamerica:

SouthAmerica: Nobody cares about the Holocaust anymore.

The world have been watching what Israel did to Lebanon, and to the people in Gaza in the last few years - and that we all saw live on CNN news and on the BBC.


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Fractals ‘R Us: Man, you are unfortunately messed up in your thinking.. you've been coming to ET and drooling all over yourself for years have you not?

Yassir Arafat and Palestinians destroyed Lebanon after Lebanon took in Palestinians that were kicked out of Jordan... Israel had to man up and push them away from their border... and Gaza, wow, people attacked Israel from Gaza for months and years and Israel had to cowboy up and go in there and shut that garbage down too.. then Obama gave Hamas nearly a Billion dollars to play with and immediately Hamas bought shiploads of.. what else? Weapons !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Part 4 of 12


10-23-09 07:51 AM

Gio 2009: What's funny is that this guy seems to think he speaks for Brazil. He speaks collectively about what "Brazilians think".


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October 23, 2009

SouthAmerica: About 2 ½ years ago I posted on this forum the position of the Brazilian government regarding Iran.

Since then the Brazilian government established even closer relations with the government of Iran.

And that’s a fact if you like it or not.


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The United States is planning to attack Iran with Nuclear Weapons.
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/...enumber=32


March 6, 2007

SouthAmerica: With the United States, and Israel trying very hard to start a war against Iran – it is clear to me that the Brazilian government is completely against such a war.

Brazil has good international relations with Iran, and Brazilians want to keep that way.

As the United States is forcing European countries (such as Germany) to stop trading with Iran and in the process making European businesses lose a lot of business from Iran – Brazil should step in and take this opportunity and sell everything in sight to Iran – from foodstuff to anything they need to keep their economy afloat.

The Brazilian economy certainly can take advantage of this opportunity for the creation of thousands of new jobs in Brazil related to the extra trade with Iran.

This trade opportunity with Iran can be worth billions of US dollars in extra international trade for Brazil.

Screw the economic and financial sanctions against Iran.



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March 6, 2007

Enclosed information is from the Homepage of the:
“Brazilian Embassy” in Iran.


The Brazilian Embassy in Tehran has launched its homepage with the intention to be a useful tool in the promotion of our bilateral relations with Iran. Although Brazil and Iran have enjoyed cordial and fruitful historic and diplomatic relations for more than a hundred years, Brazilians and Iranians still know little about each other.

The distance between the two countries, the cultural and historic experiences that naturally concentrate attention in the immediate geographical space of each nation, and the limited or distorted coverage of both countries by the international media are factors that contribute to this lack of mutual knowledge.

It is therefore my sincere wish and strong hope that through this webpage it will be possible to fill this gap so that Brazilians and Iranians could contact each other directly, not only to receive trade and tourism information, but also to experience the variety -and similarities- of the background information, in the fields of arts, economics, politics and scientific development, leading to a better understanding of each other nation.

Luiz Antônio Fachini Gomes
Ambassador


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Part 5 of 12


10-25-09 01:18 AM

Gio 2009: I'll bet the sizable brazilian Jewish community doesn't agree with him. Including many of the most notable brazilian scientists and the most successful business people, many of whom are Jewish, don't agree with him. I guess he doesn't consider them brazilian??


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October 24, 2009

SouthAmerica: First, we don’t have a sizable Jewish community in Brazil, but we have a large German and Italian community in Brazil, since a large number of Germans, and Italians went to Brazil after WW I, and WW II.

We also have the largest community of Japanese in the world living outside Japan.

I grew up in Sao Paulo, S.P. Brazil and I remember very well how Brazilians in general feel towards the Jewish community.

We had some good friends who where Jewish, but our family was the exception since in general Brazilians discriminated against Jews in the same way Americans discriminate about black people in the USA, and many people in Brazil did not want to associate with Jews in any way.

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Israel is "barking on the wrong tree"
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, October 25, 2009

Part 6 of 12


10-25-09 01:27 AM

Mom0/pH0x: the real mistake israel has made here is giving a f**k about what brazil thinks... lol who gives a s**t...


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October 24, 2009

SouthAmerica: Brazil never gave a s**t about Israel, and the truth is Israel means nothing to Brazil. Brazil has never had any relationship with Israel since the creation of Israel a few decades ago - if you want to believe it or not.

By the way, the only country in the Middle East that has a long history and great relations with Brazil going back a few decades has been Iraq and Saddam Hussein.

Brazil and Brazilians never cared about Israel, and as a matter of fact in the last year Brazil became a home for a number of Palestinians refugees.

If anything today Brazil care even less about Israel than ever before, since Brazilians have been watching what Israel have been doing to Lebanon, and to the people of Gaza.

If you want to learn a little more about Brazil and the Middle East then read the following article:

Building Bridges Between Brazil and the Arab World
Written by Ricardo C. Amaral
Brazzil magazine
Tuesday, 26 October 2004
http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/528/46/

… Brazil and Iraq

In the past, Brazil had a great business relationship with Iraq, and during the years 1976 to 1990 Iraq became one of the major importers of Brazilian products and services.

Brazil exported over US$ 30 billion dollars of goods and services to Iraq during that period, a volume of business larger than the business that Brazil had individually with any European country.

Iraq was the ideal partner for Brazil at that time, and the Brazilian Ambassador Paulo Tarso Flecha de Lima had been the great architect of this partnership when he lead various commercial trade missions to Baghdad...


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Part 7 of 12


10-25-09 01:40 AM

October 24, 2009

SouthAmerica: I live here in the United States for a long time and it does not make sense to me why the United States gives so much support to Israel in the Middle East? – Since supporting Israel goes completely against the self-interest of the United States in that region of the world.

Israel has manipulated the politicians in Washington long enough, and it is time for the United States disconnect itself from Israel and pursue new policies that support its self-interest in that area of the world.

Supporting Israel has been a losing proposition in every sense for the United States for a long time, and it is time to get wise and move in a new direction. Only FOOLS would continue on that same old path into nowhere…


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Part 8 of 12


10-25-09 01:53 AM

Gio 2009: I don't believe anyone made the assertion that the world does or should revolve around Israel. You, on the other hand don't seem to realize that the statements you made below about Israel apply more so to brazil. You don't seem to understand that most people don't give a s**t about brazil, people don't understand why you keep spamming the board about brazil, no one cares. It's a 3rd world dump with more prostitution and drug addiction than nearly anywhere else on earth. For whatever reason, you are clearly obsessed with it but no one here gives a s**t. In fact it's clear that people here are a lot more interested in discussing Israel than brazil. It's a s**thole. If anywhere in south america is going to be discussed, at least make it somewhere interesting like Santiago or Buenos Aires.

Brazil is a corrupt s**thole overun with crackwhores and drug addicts.


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Part 9 of 12


10-25-09 02:03 AM

Gio 2009: Yes you have lived in the United States for a long time, which is what makes it really odd that you hate it so much! If brazil is so great, why don't you go live there? It's kind of odd, for someone who "doesn't care about Israel" and "doesn't want to hear about Israel", you sure do run your mouth about it a lot. Why is that?

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Israel is "barking on the wrong tree"
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, October 25, 2009

Part 10 of 12


10-25-09 03:03 AM

Gio 2009: It's kind of odd, for someone who "doesn't care about Israel" and "doesn't want to hear about Israel", you sure do run your mouth about it a lot. Why is that?


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October 24, 2009

SouthAmerica: Because the American mainstream media keep show stuff about Israel on television – who cares about a little piece of worthless desert?

I am not religious and I don’t believe in the Fairy Tales about Moses, Abraham and so forth from an age long gone that sensible people should not take to seriously today.

To me Israel is just a little country with a few million people – a piece of worthless desert and nothing more.

I find disgusting when I see on television the destruction caused by Israel against the Gaza people – they come with their gunships armed with missiles and they blow up buildings full with woman, children and senior citizens. And that happens time and time again – If anything Israel is a state out of control that wants to make war on all its neighbours. Israel destroyed Lebanon completely about 2 years ago from the air, and now Israel wants to bomb Iran.

Israel started looking as the real cancer in that region of the world – a country that wants to keep waging wars to justify the cash (gravy train) coming from the United States year after year.

There is a thousand things that are more important for the United States such as China, national health insurance, and so on than keep supporting Israel where the self-interest is having a war strategy to keep the gravy train coming from the United States.

For Israel making trouble and bomb other people’s countries is a way to keep the United States sending cash and weapons to Israel year after year.

You can read about the Jewish Lobby at:
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/...ost1410647


March 25, 2007

SouthAmerica: It is interesting The Economist magazine choice of a title for an article on their magazine about the Jewish lobby – “Leviathan”.

The Christian interpretation of “Leviathan” is often considered to be a “demon” or natural monster associated with “Satan or the Devil”.

Some biblical scholars considered “Leviathan” to represent the pre-existent forces of chaos.


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Regarding the actual article The Economist said that today the Jewish lobby in the United States can count with the help of - “…The lobbyists had every reason to feel proud of their work. Congress has more Jewish members than ever before: 30 in the House and a remarkable 13 in the Senate.”


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Part 11 of 12


10-25-09 08:14 AM

aperson: There is no american mainstream media spotlight on Israel.


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October 25, 2009

SouthAmerica: Only if you don't include The New York Times, CNN News, the BBC News, Channel 2, 4, 5, 7 and 13, and most of PBS.

Never mind the massive Jewish Lobby and its propaganda machine - including Hollywood.

We are getting to the point in which even films about WW II the story line is being completely distorted because of some kind of agenda.

Other than that ....

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Israel is "barking on the wrong tree"
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, October 25, 2009

Part 12 of 12


10-25-09 08:23 AM

aperson: How about...because Israel is right.

How about because Israel is simply the first target of the islamic expansion and if it falls the attacks on the west and the US will intensify…


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October 25, 2009

SouthAmerica: Israel is right from their point of view – I don’t blame Israel for milking the gravy train dry – after a certain point it does not make sense anymore for the United States to borrow money from China to give away to Israel – a gravy train that has been going on for a long time and completely against the self-interest of the United States and the American people.

The odds are in favor of things getting much better for everybody – if Israel is no longer in the way of peace.


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aperson: alternatively without the US support Israel if cornered will simply turn the entire Middle East into a radioactive desert for several centuries and screw the oil prices... Need more reasons?


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SouthAmerica: As a Brazilian the first thought that comes to mind is that oil at $ 500 dollar per barrel would be very profitable for Petrobras and its vast oil resources.

Besides a large portion of the Brazil economy is powered by ethanol anyway….

By the way, besides Brazil that would be good also for Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Ecuador, Angola, Nigeria, and so on….

The conclusion is we should cut US support to Israel immediately.

After that the United States could concentrate its efforts on more important world affairs such as China, India, Russia, Europe, Brazil and even Africa – or 99.99 percent of the global population.


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aperson: I happen to have a number of Brazilian friends here in the US (NJ). And its kind of ironic that you, not them, are the one who hates Israel, the US, the jews. They would not piss on stupid uber-leftist antisemitic scum like you if you were on fire.


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SouthAmerica: I don't hate Israel, and never did in the past.

I just don't care about Israel, and Israel means nothing to me. I care as much about Israel as I care about the Albania, Congo, Somalia, Sudan, and many other countries that mean nothing to me.

I have no reason to care about Israel in any way - other than I am sick and tired of hearing about Israel year after year on television all the time. I have tuned Israel off as much as I could for a long time, but just like a disease that always keeps coming back and you are sick of it.

I already explained a number of times on this forum that I am not anti-Jew, or anti-Semitic, or any other excuse that you guys use all the time.

I am not a religious person, and I don’t care which religion anybody practices from Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Moslem, Buddhist, Hinduism, and so on….

I never played the religion game with anybody. When people try to bring out the problems that we have in Brazil such as the Favelas in Rio de Janeiro, or the problem with the criminal gangs – I don’t react by hiding behind religion and start accusing people of being anti-Catholic. (just because many people in Brazil happens to be Catholic).

Maybe in the future any time someone says anything against Brazil that I don’t like it then to shut him/her up I am going to start whining about that that person must be an anti-Catholic.

From now on I am going to use the Israeli strategy – anybody that says anything against Brazil it must be because that person is anti-Catholic.

In no time we all can be playing the hide behind the religion game.

Any time anybody say anything against Brazil in the future it is because that person is anti-Brazilian, anti-Latin American, anti-South American, and above all anti-Catholic.


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aperson: They would not piss on stupid uber-leftist antisemitic scum like you if you were on fire.


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SouthAmerica: You people committed genocide in Lebanon and Gaza - and the entire world were watching it live on CNN News and on the BBC News...

A picture is worth a thousand words....


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