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Brazil Worried US Is After Its Oil and the Amazon PDF Print E-mail
2009 - August 2009
Written by Raúl Zibechi   
Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:14

USS George WashingtonThe imminent agreement between the United States and Colombia over the use of seven military bases by the Southern Command (SOUTHCOM) forms part of the major dispute over commonly held resources throughout the South American region.

First, a few recent updates:

* Venezuela has become the number one country in the world in potential oil reserves, following the announcement by the Venezuelan state-owned petroleum company PDVSA that locates an estimated 314 billion barrels in the Orinoco Heavy Oil belt. According to PDVSA, the findings show Venezuela knocking Saudi Arabia down to number two in the world with 264 billion barrels. (1)

* Fatih Birol, chief economist of the International Energy Agency (IEA), affirms that the oil crisis will hit much sooner than previously expected. "The world is heading for a catastrophic energy crunch that could cripple a global economic recovery, as most of the world's major oil fields have passed their peak production." Birol maintains that the figures the IEA had previously used were incorrect and he predicts that peak oil production will be reached in 10 years (2020 rather than 2030).

Birol points out, "The first detailed assessment of more than 800 oil fields in the world, covering three-quarters of global reserves, has found that most of the biggest fields have already peaked and that the rate of decline in oil production is now running at nearly twice the pace calculated just two years ago." The decline in oil production in existing fields is now running at 6.7% per year compared to the 3.7% decline the IEA had estimated in 2007. (2)

* Twenty years ago, China was the 12th largest trading partner with Latin America, with a commercial volume that totaled slightly more than US$ 8 billion. Since 2007 China has become the number two partner, more than tripling that figure and recently reaching a volume greater than US$ 100 billion. China has been establishing strategic partnerships with Brazil since the 90s, followed by agreements with Venezuela, Mexico, Argentina, Chile, and Peru.

This year, China has negotiated agreements that would double a development fund in Venezuela to US$ 12 billion, lend US$ 1 billion to Ecuador for the construction of a hydroelectric plant, give Argentina access to US$ 10 billion for several projects, and another US$ 10 billion to the Brazilian state-owned oil company.

According to official Brazilian figures, the volume of bilateral trade between Brazil and China reached US$ 36.4 billion in 2008, a 55.9% increase over the previous year. In April of this year, China became Brazil's number one trading partner, usurping the United States. China's admittance as a donor country within the Inter-American Development Bank (IADB) last April (after 15 years of negotiations), was a major indicator of its growing commitment to strengthen relationships in the region. (3)

* An important turning point has occurred in terms of Brazil's political economy and its relation to the United States. From August 2008 to May of this year, in the midst of the exploding global financial crisis, Brazil reduced its investment in U.S. bonds by 17% - the largest reduction made by any of Washington's 15 biggest creditors. In contrast, within the same period, Russia increased its purchase of Federal Reserve issue bonds by 20% and China made a 40% increase in its purchases. (4)

* The Chinese state-owned petroleum company (CNPC) decided to step up its acquisitions in Africa and Latin America because "the relatively low prices of overseas assets this year have offered us unprecedented opportunities." One of these opportunities could be the purchase of 84% of Repsol YPF's stakes in its Argentine unit for US$ 17 billion, in a deal with China's third largest oil company CNOOC. The deal would be the largest overseas investment made by China. (5)

These recent events, reported in last week's international press, demonstrate the intense competition for natural resources in the region among the world's economic powerhouses. In parallel, the region's most important countries (Argentina, Brazil, and Venezuela) have begun conducting transactions in currencies other than the U.S. dollar and establishing partnerships with Asian countries and other emerging powers.

The weight of economic factors linked to hegemonic powers is evident in the decision to increase U.S. military presence in Colombia. Obama is demonstrably making more strategic decisions of this kind.

Who are the Bases Against?

According to the United States, the new military relationship is basically a substitute for the presence they previously maintained at the base in Manta, Ecuador. The United States will technically have to abandon its post there in November, though it has already done so. President Alvaro Uribe of Colombia has stated that the increase in bases used by the United States is part of the strategy of Plan Colombia, or the continuing war against the FARC and the pursuit of drug trafficking.

Bogota and Washington are in complete agreement on this point, in addition to the fact that for the Colombian military commanders, an increase in U.S. military presence within Colombia is a good way to resolve any possible difficulties in relations between the two countries.

The reactivation of the Fourth Fleet last year is now completed by the rosary of seven bases that can be used by SOUTHCOM whenever it is deemed convenient. Of course, the White House and the Palacio de Nariño are working to maintain the argument that none of these bases will in fact be U.S. military bases; they will continue to be under the control of the Colombian state and Armed Forces; there will be no increase in the 800 soldiers and 600 contractors that are currently operating in the country.

This line of argument is only partially true. Within the new context of war, the type of military bases that existed during the Cold War - huge concentrations of people and equipment, fixed and immobile - are giving way to a more flexible model as outlined in the U.S. Air Force's "Global en Route Strategy" report of April 2009.

The report refers to the ability to utilize these installations above all for air transport, making it possible to have control from a distance and act as a dissuasive force, leaving direct intervention only for exceptionally critical situations. As such, the super power's greatest interest is to be able to count on the cooperation of governments in the region to allow the installation of surveillance systems, and the use of sea ports and airports. This ongoing cooperation is much more important than direct military presence, as current military technology allows troops to concentrate in any given area within a matter of hours.

However, the latest deployment of SOUTHCOM has gone in a different direction. For Juan Gabriel Tokatlián, professor of International Relations at the Di Tella University, "The main message is for Brazil and not for Venezuela." (6)

He has a point, but we should add a few details. To say "Brazil," according to Washington's prevailing logic, is to say "the Amazon," and by association, "natural resources." Secondly, the imminent agreement on the use of the seven Colombian bases by SOUTHCOM could be related to the growing relationship between China and Brazil, which implies trade goods passing physically through the Andean region.

The Barrier Strategy

An understanding of this situation depends on where it is observed from. As such, in Brazil the decision to enhance the military presence of SOUTHCOM in the region came as a shock. Chancellor Celso Amorim and the adviser on international affairs, Marco Aurélio Garcia, were very explicit.

"What worries Brazil is a strong military presence whose objective and capabilities have the potential to go beyond Colombia's internal needs," stated Amorim to Folha de S. Paulo.

He added that there is a contradiction between Bogota's statement that the FARC has been practically annihilated, and an increase in U.S. military presence to combat them. "It is important that we have transparency and clarity in the region. Perhaps this has been lacking. One could have, for example, formal guarantees as to how the bases will be used," Folha concluded. (7)

President Lula, for his part, has linked the bases in Colombia and the reactivation of the Fourth Fleet with the existence of enormous oil reserves, located at a depth of 7,000 meters off the coast of the Brazilian states of Santa Catarina and Espírito Santo. So great are these reserves that they make Brazil independent of other sources of oil.

Through this logic, Lula seems to be aligning himself with an old concern of Brazilian strategists and the military, known as the "Geopolitica del Cerco" (Barrier Geopolitics). In fact, in 2002 the Army Intelligence Center, located in Brasília, carried out three studies that mapped out U.S. military presence in South America. The conclusions indicated that in 2001 and 2002 there were 6,300 U.S. soldiers constructing runways and outposts in a militarized "belt" around Brazil. (8)

One of these studies, "United States Presence in South America," headed by then-Infantry Colonel José Alberto de Costa Abreu, currently the military chief of Brazil's Northeast, concluded that one of the major consequences of this is "the diminished Brazilian capability to predict regional power dynamics due to the existence of a 'belt' of North American [U.S.] installations near Brazilian borders, especially in the Amazonian region." (9)

In the series of reports published on the Brazilian military website Defesanet, they point out that 25% of the oil consumed by the United States comes from Andean countries, and that the Amazon is the hottest issue for the region as well as a very sensitive issue for Brazil.

End Notes

(1) Agencia Xinhua, August 13, 2009.

(2) The Independent, August 3, 2009.

(3) Diario del Pueblo, August 11, 2009.

(4) Folha de S. Paulo, August 2, 2009.

(5) China Daily, August 12, 2009.

(6) Página 12, August 7, 2009.

(7) DPA, Brasília, August 2, 2009.

(8) Defesanet, January 18, 2006.

(9) Idem.

Raúl Zibechi is an international analyst for Brecha of Montevideo, Uruguay, lecturer and researcher on social movements at the Multiversidad Franciscana de América Latina, and adviser to several social groups. He writes the monthly "Zibechi Report" for the Americas Program - www.americasprogram.org.

Translated from "Sudamérica: las bases en Colombia y la disputa por los bienes comunes" by Monica Wooters and Jodie Lea Martire.



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SO SHOULD THE US BE WORRIED THAT
written by Forrest Allen Brown, August 18, 2009
MEXICO AND BRASIL WANT TO JOIN IN OIL PACT ALSO

or is it a way for brasilians to be able to run the bordor with out paying the high money for visa.

Get real Brasil the US is trying to help coulmbia .

Look this way the Us moved out of panamaw ,gave up its jungle war fare training school there and they lost 18.5 million a year, we left porto rico as they did not want us there so the island was left the navy base was closed they lost 46 million a year there and the only reason the US chose PR after the spanish Ame war was to protect the panamaw canal zone , we have no real intrest there any more so no need .

But we do have a need for jungle war fare training so we pay coulmbia money to train there and we also spend millinos to stop the drug traffic to the US and eles where .

as far as brasilian oil in the amazon you have not even done any looking around there as of yet and it will take at least 10 years to do so .

then you will have to fight chaves and the tree huggers along with the FARC unless brasil plans to use them to protect the amazon from the US
Quando voce e um trouxa as outras pessoas te tratam como trouxa
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 19, 2009

Ricardo C. Amaral: O Brasileiro e trouxa por natureza, e trouxa e tratado de acordo com a mentalidade dele.

O Brazil e como uma crianca que preciza de supervisao de adultos – e o Brazil e tratado pelo paizes adultos como se o Brazil fosse uma crianca.

Os paizes adultos dao rizada quando o Brazil reclama que tambem deveria pertencer ao clube de adultos do Security Council das Nacoes Unidas – os membros que tem um lugar permanente.


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United Nations Security Council

Permanent members: China, the United States, France, Russia, and the United Kingdom.

The Security Council's five permanent members have the power to veto any substantive resolution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U...ty_Council


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Se o Brazil resolver se tornar um pais de adultos (hoje em dia ate a Koreia do Norte tem armas nucleares) – aqui estao alguns artigos de como atingir aquele objetivo.


Articles about Brazil and Nuclear Weapons:


1) Brazzil Magazine - May 2002

“We Need the Bomb – Part I”

Written by Ricardo C. Amaral

http://www.brazzil.com/compone.../2575.html


2) Brazzil Magazine - February 2003

“We Need the Bomb – Part II”

Written by Ricardo C. Amaral

http://www.brazzil.com/compone.../2186.html


3) Brazzil Magazine - June 2003

“Food for Nukes the Answer for Brazil”

Written by Ricardo C. Amaral

http://brazzil.com/p104jun03.htm

http://northkorea-nuclearweapons.blogspot.com


Note: Thousands and thousands of people around the world it did read my articles regarding Brazil and nuclear weapons.


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O dia que o Brasileiro acordar, ou amadurecer e se tornar um adulto talvez ja seja tarde quando eles realizem o porque eles perderam o pais que eles tinham.

Quem e trouxa e tratado assim mesmo.

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what a bunch of paranoia
written by asp, August 19, 2009
how can anyone write an article about the colombia dynamic and not include how venezuela and equador are helping out farc with the drug and arms trade and letting them hide in their countries ?

and who knows who else is involved with farc ? and farc is raping brazil

how can you not write about the rhetoric coming from chavez ?

why cant people look at the truth about the cold war ? no one wants to look at the other side and what was happening and why the usa was confronting the soviet union at every step in south america (right or wrong) and when they did and succeeded the dictators of those countries faded away.....but cuba still is under a dictatorship...

there is a lot of ridiculas paranoia for nothing or for getting votes or what ever, its bulls**t

asp
written by João da Silva, August 19, 2009
there is a lot of ridiculas paranoia for nothing or for getting votes or what ever, its b


Now that the article has clearly identified who is our real enemy, you are in big trouble, dude. BUT....BUT....., we will treat you with clemency, courtesy and honor, once you surrender! smilies/grin.gif
Brazil Worried US Is After Its Oil and the Amazon ! Hmmmm
written by ch.c., August 19, 2009
Typically a Brazilian Obsession !

the U.S. would rather invade Venezuela having already more than 175 billion barrels of PROVEN OIL RESERVES,PLUS WHATEVER TRILLIONS CUBIC FEET OF NATURAL GAZ, and also millions and millions hectares of the Amazon, not yet as deforested as in Brazil.

Better yet, for the transportation of commodities, Venezuela is a lot closer to the USA than Brazil is, that would then also reduce costs !


Disinformation through lies are a Brazilian EXPERTISE !
ahhh joao, i think you kicked a goal.....they are coming to get me ha ha ...and ch c
written by asp, August 19, 2009
you were right on my other post....20,000,000 million would be a lot of people

i meant, the soviet union eliminated 20 million or 20,000,000

joao, ill never give up....actualy im in training, i dont know if you noticed but where i live is going berserk with violence...murders and asaults a few blocks and barios away...and there were 5 burglaries happening one block over from me...what happened to sossego a tranquilidade ? it over now,i might as well live in rio
...
written by Manda Chuva, August 19, 2009
Disinformation through lies are a Brazilian EXPERTISE !


It took us a long time to learn from Goebbels and Fox news!!!!!!!!!!!! smilies/cheesy.gif
going chaves way ?????
written by Forrest Allen Brown, August 20, 2009
Brazil's government will send proposals to change the country's oil laws to Congress on Sept. 1, a member of President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva's Workers' Party said Wednesday.

Sen. Ideli Salvatti told the local Estado news agency that a calendar for the proposals was divulged during a meeting with President Lula. The new measures will be unveiled to government officials and the public on Aug. 31.

The changes to Brazil's regulatory framework will be made via three separate bills. The first will create a new production-sharing regime, with private companies bidding for the right to explore and develop offshore oil reserves.

The oil produced from the deposits will belong to the government, while companies will be paid a fixed amount in oil or cash.

A second bill will create a social fund that will receive proceeds from the sale of government crude. A third bill will create a new state company to manage Brazil's so-called subsalt oil reserves, dubbed Petrosal.

The so-called subsalt discoveries were made recently under a thick layer of salt in the Santos Basin off the coast of Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro states. The oil lies under more than 2,000 meters of water and a further 5,000 meters under sand, rock and a shifting layer of salt.

The measures will cover concession blocks that currently remain under government control, Salvatti said. Concession contracts for blocks that were previously auctioned off, including a cluster of blocks containing the recent discoveries, will not be changed.

Remaining questions about how to distribute Brazil's newfound oil wealth were not discussed during the meeting, Salvatti said.

Last year, President Lula formed a government panel to study possible changes to Brazil's regulatory regime covering the oil and natural gas sector. The working group's proposals were forwarded to Lula in late July.

President Lula has pledged to use the subsalt oil to reduce Brazil's crushing poverty and improve the country's education system.

Reply to Forest Aleen Brown
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 20, 2009

You said: "President Lula has pledged to use the subsalt oil to reduce Brazil's crushing poverty and improve the country's education system."

But that was before the United States decided to create 7 new military bases close to the Amazon area.

The new priority for the Brazilian government is to build a Brazilian military that can defend the Brazilian territory against any country including Venezuela, Colombia, the United States, and so on...

For every action there is a reaction, and in that case it would be completely irresponsable if the Brazilian government does not act accordingly.

Brazilians would be considered "Pathetic Fools" if they see all kinds of military bases being constructed around its borders in Paraguay, Colombia and so on...And Brazil does not react accordingly and build its military with the ultimate weapons of war.

If the Brazilian government it does not do that it would be viewed by the rest of the global community as a weak country and ripe for a quick take over. And you can bet that a rich country in natural resources like Brazil someone would find a reason to occupy the Brazilian territory for one reason or another.

If a foreign power takes over Brazil, then you don't need to worry about the oil revenues going to social programs in Brazil such as to reduce Brazil's crushing poverty and to improve the country's education system, since in that case the oil revenue it would go to the people who take over the country.

Please keep in mind that for all practical purposes: Today Brazil would be an easier target for a foreign country takeover than Iraq, Sudan, Colombia, and so on...

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Minor Threat from US Bases should be used as an excuse for increased defense from Venezuela
written by Augustus, August 20, 2009
While it would be prudent for Brazil to express concerns and to take concerted action in order to relatively counter-balance any additional military activity in Colombia, ITAMARATI (Brazil’s foreign office should attempt to understand that the main reason for the planned US Bases in Colombia is to monitor and diminish Venezuelan-Ecuadorian activity vis-à-vis their unquestionable support for FARC (as ASP correctly suggested), to monitor and combat drug cartel related activity, and possibly to deter and defend Colombia – the US closest – from any possible threat, incursion and/or attack from its declared opponents in Caracas and Quito, not to mention the fact that Cuba is not too far away from its northern coast.

On the other hand, if the current Brazilian government were not controlled by a revolting, ghastly mob of highly corrupt and hypocritical Socialists (and associated with the malignant, dangerous Chavez Gang of Bolivarian/Neo-Marxist nations), the ITAMARATY and the Military Central Command should take advantage of the increase of US bases in Colombia as an excuse to increase its defensive positions against Venezuela and Boliva, without raising red flags in Caracas and La Paz.
Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, August 20, 2009
The new priority for the Brazilian government is to build a Brazilian military that can defend the Brazilian territory against any country including Venezuela, Colombia, the United States, and so on...


Hi Ricardo,

You are not serious about the United States invading Brasil, are you? If such an event does occur, what will happen to people who hold dual citizenship like you , Augustus and many other Gringos in this blog? Are our respective governments going to set up internment camps, like the U.S government did for the Japanese Americans during the WW II.

Do you know that the Brasilian government under the command of "Grandpa of the Pobres" did indirectly persecute Italo and German Brasilians? Though I am not of either origin, my wife´s side is. I have heard stories about this persecution.

About your statement about the "New Priority for the Brasilian Government" is build a Military to defend against..........., I don't think you paid any attention to the video clips I posted for you last year or the one before.

If a foreign power takes over Brazil, then you don't need to worry about the oil revenues going to social programs in Brazil such as to reduce Brazil's crushing poverty and to improve the country's education system, since in that case the oil revenue it would go to the people who take over the country.


Sorry Ricardo, I like you very much and I don't think that you are dumb. You are talking like a Politician that does not really suit your profile, as I always thought you were (and still are) a technocrat to boot.But lately you have joined the "mass" forgetting that those "who go with the mass are walking in the opposing direction". One simple example is that your inflammatory statement: "to improve the country's education system". If you think that the "foreign powers are incapable of improving our educational system", I have got a couple of questions for you: a) If that is really true, why did people like you and Augustus decide to go to U.S. to study? b) Why are so many Brasilian youngsters wanting to move to "other foreign powers" to study?

Unfortunately, my friend, you are talking like many Brasilian politicians in a forum that consists of intelligent and educated people (including Brasilians). Sadly, your arguments "Não colam" !!



Forrest
written by João da Silva, August 20, 2009
Here is a stretch of comments from a Brasilian about the Lady Senator, you mentioned about. Hopefully Fatima´s Portuguese is still good!

Thu, 20/08/09 20:25 , dinha_dinha@estadao.com.br

A Ângela Guadagnin (aquela da dança da Pizza), não conseguiu se eleger mais a não ser a vereadora. A Ideli Salvati, amiga do Sarney e do Renan, corre um sério risco de não se eleger nem mesmo a vereadora de Floripa. Com a palavra os catarinenses.


Any comment?
as for its military bases RA brasil will just be building targest
written by Forrest Allen Brown, August 21, 2009
one US aircraft carrier up the amazon with its other boats would cut the country in half if 3 days .
BUT what why take on a 3 rate militart to get a 2 world country it would take billinos if not trillions to fix brasil , teach the people , stop the cruption , the drugs , prositution , illeagle farming , rachining , taking of birds , and other wild life and the trees so in a word or so are you fuc**** me .

yes the US was stupid enough to elect obama but to adopt brasil with all its baggage would be the absult stupidity on the part of the US .


we are there to help coulmbia , stop the FARC from drug dealing and kidnapings , stop chaves , castro , morlas , and the other 2 from turning into what they are now . maybe to late for them but not coulmbia nad brasil .

Coulmbia has found oil on land close to chaves land and needs help with drilling and protecting it . that was taken from rig zone news about what basil wants to do with its subsalt oil
oil money i would say 1 % will make it to thoes whom need it
war of the wards
written by Simpleton, August 21, 2009
Joao, you had some good questions but I think you missed at least items c) and d) Why are so many non-brasilian oldsters providing technology and services to the brasils military infrastructure? Why would any of them continue considering coming there to provide additional educational services at the begining of the train ride / lower levels more or less on a gratis basis?

YOU WILL BE INVADED IN EVERY WAY AND ON EVERY LEVEL - ASSIMULATION IS FUTILE!
Simpleton
written by João da Silva, August 21, 2009
Joao, you had some good questions but I think you missed at least items c) and d) Why are so many non-brasilian oldsters providing technology and services to the brasils military infrastructure?


Thanks Simpleton for adding c)and d). Now that you mentioned , I must pay tributes to all the "non-brasilians" who came to this country years ago to contribute to the education, be it for the military or civilian purposes. In fact it was cheaper to import them than to send our students overseas. I have run into many such fine people in ITA/IME and other Federal Universities.

Thanks once again for correcting me.
Aye mateaus
written by Simpleton, August 21, 2009
Ready willing and able to be imported with red pen in hand as highlighting errors and corrections are my specialty!

Yes, let's not forget the time when Euros were cheap. Based on what I find around the office space now I will venture to say they still are.

Forget those at the Fed that failed to get elsewhere, at least those that they taught will be less likely to be accused of not returning to their own to return something of what they had gained during their exile. Really though, I'm thinking of something more grass roots. A spark setting niche somewhere in the late primary to early secondary level would be a good start progressing over time to changing / improving / enhancing / expanding what goes on in the earlier years of study. By the time the vestibular comes about you've lost more likely supporters for a better future than you can possibly realize. Most of what you currently get are just what "passes".
Why not beef the military to gain a new coast at the carebean?
written by Episilon Eridani, August 21, 2009
One is under the impression that the US forces in Colombia would quiet sit back and might even provide aircraft monitoring support if the Brazilian central command were to attack and annex Venezuela after signficant military expanditure could secure it superior military equpiment over the next five to ten years...

As for consequences, there would be broken relations with Ecuador, Cuba, Bolivia & Nicaragua (no great loss except for the Bolivian Gas which could be overlooked by annexing Santa Cruz province), along with a few formal objections from Washington, London & Brussles, and a few slaps on the wrist there & there... smilies/cheesy.gif
Reply to Augusts
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 21, 2009

After reading Augustus posting I realized that his mindset is frozen in the cold war years.

He still is afraid of communist threats from Cuba, Ecuador, and Venezuela.

Please give me a break.

First keep in mind what Charles De Gaulle said in the 1960’s when a Prime Minister of Israel asked him if France was a friend of Israel – he answered: “countries have no friends they have only self-interests.”

In my opinion that is a very smart concept to always keep in mind.

The Serbs still waiting to this day for the Russian help that never came when the United States attacked militarily and demolished their country in the 1990’s. (Serbia was a very close ally of Russia and when they needed the Russian help the Russians rolled over and played dead.)

In another words Brazil can’t rely on any other country to defend Brazil against any future foreign attack, and today Brazil is very vulnerable and would not stand a chance to defend its vast territory.

Today Brazil is like a little kid that needs protection from an adult.

And the other countries from around the world know that Brazil still is just a little kid completely vulnerable to the adults’ manipulations and supervision.

In a world where that is quickly becoming a massive mess regarding shortages of food supplies and a very high demand for the untapped natural resources Brazil becomes an easy target for a foreign takeover.

Other things to keep in mind:

Current world population (ranked)
http://www.xist.org/earth/population1.aspx


The world population is growing by a net of 218,000 people per day. That translates to about 80 million more people living in our planet per year.

By December 2011 the world population is going to reach 7 billion people and by 2023 the world population will reach 8 billion people.


Current population

China = 1,339,847,426 people

India = 1,168,604,657 people

Brazil = 199,072,498 people


Net daily population increase

China = 24,205 people

India = 49,518 people

Brazil = 6,534people


Annual net population increase

China = 8,834,825 people

India = 18,074,070 people

Brazil = 2,384,910 people


Country - area sq.km.

China = 9,596,960

India = 3,287,590

Brazil = 8,511,965


Countries that are in play militarily by foreign interference because of its vast untapped natural resources:

Colombia

Population = 45,732,035 people

Country area sq.km. = 1,138,910

Sudan

Population = 41,210,683 people

Country area sq.km. = 2,505,810


In a nutshell:

The current negotiations that are underway between the U.S. and Colombia to establish at least seven U.S. military bases in Colombia boils down to the Colombian government surrendering their national sovereignty and become a country occupied by a foreign world superpower.

The Colombians are too stupid to realize that what they are doing is becoming a country under foreign occupation.

And the Colombian forces aren't the only ones to worry about: that the U.S. military forces will not be bound by Colombian law – since most of the other countries in South America have realized that Colombia is surrendering its sovereignty by choice and that most likely some Colombian politicians who are selling their country for just a few US dollars to line up their pockets.

Please don’t give me the bulls**t that this new United States interest in Colombia is related to fighting against the Farc or to help in the fight against the drug traffickers – please don’t insult my intelligence.

The civil war has been raging in Colombia for over 35 years, and 95 percent of Americans probably could not find Colombia on the map to save their own lives. And I would not be surprised if 90 percent of Americans would think that Colombia was located somewhere in Africa.

Anyway, Americans could careless about the civil war that has been going on in Colombia all this time – most Americans were not even aware that Colombia was in the middle of a civil war for almost 4 decades.

About 6 or 7 years ago Colombia finds oil inside their country and immediately Colombia shows up on the American radar and overnight Colombia becomes the number two recipient of American foreign aid (in the American vocabulary foreign aid means guns, tanks, helicopter, fighter jets, and lots of bombs and ammunition).

After over 40 years of civil war now Americans want to call the revolutionaries (Farc) in Colombia of terrorists.

Colombia did appear in the US radar only after they found lots of oil in Colombia, but that civil war has been raging out of control in Colombia for a long time.

Only “FOOLS” think that this new United States interest in Colombia is related to fighting against the Farc or to help in the fight against the drug traffickers – it is about securing an important source of untapped natural resources and lots of oil.

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Reply to Forrest Allen Brown
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 21, 2009

You said: “as for its military bases RA Brasil will just be building targets”

Ricardo: Not if Brazil is armed with nuclear weapons.

That is the point to build nuclear weapons.

The United States has said a number of times since 9/11 that the US government would hunt Osama Bin Ladden to the end of the world until they catch him and bring him to US justice.

It is no secret and the entire world knows where Osama Bin Ladden has been living all this time – in Pakistan.

And it is not a secret also why the United States is not invading that country to get Osama Bin Ladden – because Pakistan is armed with nuclear weapons.

The United States respect a poor, small country such as North Korea that has millions of starving people just like they respect Russia, and China - Because very poor and starving North Korea is armed with nuclear weapons.

If Brazil were armed with nuclear weapons then no other country including the United States would contemplate a possible country takeover. And Brazil would be respected much more around the world.

If a country decides to take over Brazil militarily then I have only one recommendation for them: Please let the foolish Brazilians have at least their football and Carnival – that is all that would take to keep them happy.

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please dont insult my inteligence that farc isnt raping brazil...
written by asp, August 21, 2009
anyone who doesnt take farc and its helpers like chavez and equador seriously , is wallowing in ignorance

its very dificult to talk to people who dont understand farc is doing big business with huge drug gangs in rio and sao paulo , decimating and sending these cities into decline year after year.

farc isnt the only one involved but they are major players and they funnel arms and drugs in a constant flow of coruption and violence and urban decay,and anyone who thinks cocaine isnt a problem in brazil or south america is a fool. crack is decimating the city i live in , just f**king decimating it, and argentina has another version of crack decimating it

what the f**k are south american leaders or thinkers doing getting up tight with americans coming to colombian bases to fight the cocaine wars when they all should be joining in (personaly for me the wars on drugs are arcaic and need to be rethought)? this is the hight of stupidiy and hypocracy

they also kidnap young people off the brazilian border

chavez and correa are definitly linked with this and who knows how much morales or other leaders are profiting from as alliance with farc.its just a fact that farc has contributed money to some peoples political campains....this just some serious s**t , yet people are getting uptight about americans coming to colombias bases

any brazilian who worries more about being invaded by the usa than the absolute disruption of the area by farc, have their heads in the sand, stuck in cold war dogmas , brain washed by soviet union dogma with fidels snot all over it.

there was never a usa boot on the ground in brazil in the cold war, only cia. the brazilian military needed no help to do what they did.they just had tacit support from the usa.this fight the comunist s**t had been going on before in the thirties ,it was nothing new to brazilian political fabric, it want inroduced by the usa, they all just agreed they just dont want bulls**t soviet union by way of castro sponsored marxism in south america and brutaly cracked down on people to make sure it didnt happen

all the south american dictators faded but castro brothers just keep going and going....f**k, some people actualy think that is wonderful and interesting
nukes and brasil
written by Forrest Allen Brown, August 21, 2009
there are several countries that have nukes but no way to get them any where . the US leaves them alone,

The US has never said a thing to brasil for wanting to build nukes or make fuel rods or that sub we here about now and then .

BUT IF YOU THINK BRASIL WOULD USE A NUKE ON A JUNGLE WAR OVER A SMALL FORCE THAM JUST MAY BE THE US NEEDS TO PUT BRASIL ON THE TERROIST WATCH LIST OF COUNTRIES AND TREAT THEM LIKE NORTH KEORA?????

if you know where OBL is go get him it is $50 million in your bank and US citisenship tax free.

The US will never use nukes again unless it if fired upon first by nukes then well hot day on the planet .

Ricardo C. Amaral you are the stupid one saying that the US had no intrest in coulmbia before they found oil . why is there an hospitial in bogta named JOHN F KENNEDY HOSPITAL built in 1962 ???
why is it that the US has ported its navy there many years before and still does . why is it that castro complained about US military flights over his air space going to there baces in coulmbia in the late 60 and in the 80 after the US kicked his military off granada ???
rember that on where cubans built a air bace there large enough to carrie the russina bull and backfire bombers ???
then took medical students captive.

And it is a fact if any country in the amercias asked for help the US is there , if another country comes after brasil the US would help brasil as we know what sort of direction brasil is going
Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 21, 2009

Part 1 of 2


Joao da Silva: “You are not serious about the United States invading Brasil, are you? If such an event does occur, what will happen to people who hold dual citizenship like you, Augustus and many other Gringos in this blog? Are our respective governments going to set up internment camps, like the U.S government did for the Japanese Americans during the WW II.”


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Ricardo: I just posted above what Charles De Gaulle said about friendship when it comes to countries.

You are thinking about the United States of the past 100 years – the United States of the future is a country buried under a massive amount of debt, with a fast obsolete industrial base, an ageing population that will require massive amounts of money to keep them going – Social Security, Medicare, and so on…

After all the economic transformation that has been under way the United States is going to end up with an economy that will not be able to pay for its outstanding debt plus all the future costs that are coming very fast. The United States has to find new sources of income and new sources of natural resources for them to be able to pay the bills that are coming due.

Regarding the double citizenship that is not an issue and want to remind you that the United States placed the Japanese in concentration camps during WW II, but at the same time they gave different treatment to the Germans who were living in the United States.
You could say that the United States gives different treatments in that regard based on race.


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Joao da Silva: “About your statement about the "New Priority for the Brasilian Government" is build a Military to defend against..........., I don't think you paid any attention to the video clips I posted for you last year or the one before.”


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Ricardo: Yes, I did watch that video that you mentioned.

If I were in power in Brazil today, I would place that General in charge of the Brazilian Army Forces and I would ask him to build a new military system with the military defenses necessary to protect Brazil in the 21st Century – and that new army armed with new arsenal and technology would also include nuclear weapons.

It is just a matter of time for some country to go after the natural resources of Brazil. Brazil is the only country in our planet with significant supply of untapped natural resources that is not armed with nuclear weapons to protect its territory.

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Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 21, 2009

Part 2 of 2


Joao da Silva: “One simple example is that your inflammatory statement: "to improve the country's education system". If you think that the "foreign powers are incapable of improving our educational system", I have got a couple of questions for you: a) If that is really true, why did people like you and Augustus decide to go to U.S. to study? b) Why are so many Brasilian youngsters wanting to move to "other foreign powers" to study?”


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Ricardo: I used the phrase “to reduce Brazil's crushing poverty and to improve the country's education system” because that was the language that Forrest Allen Brown used on his posting.

The point that I was trying to make is that if Brazil does not build a new military system armed with nuclear weapons – the country would be unprotected in the coming decades and it would be vulnerable to foreign military occupation.

If Brazil gets occupied militarily in the future in the same fashion that today Colombia has decided to turn its sovereignty to the United States and they are becoming a country under foreign military occupation - that is a real possibility also for Brazil.

I would not be surprised if some corrupt Brazilians politicians would sell our country even to the United States in exchange for a few US dollars – and the US can also place a few bases inside Brazil for protection purposes. After that the US can use the vast Brazilian natural resources to help pay the bills in the United States – the current outstanding US cumulative debt is over $ 13 trillion US dollars and the US have more than $ 70 trillion US dollars in new debt that will come due in the coming years.

The new wealth of the newly found oil reserves in Brazil plus all that untapped natural resources that we have in the Amazon area will come very handy to help the US government to pay the massive amount of bills that are coming due

Why do you think the US has been building so many military bases in South America?

To fight a bunch of revolutionaries that has been around in South America for at least the last 50 years?

Are you kidding?

What is going to happen next?

Hugo Chavez is going to ask the Russians to build a few military bases in Venezuela?

I am not against Brazilians going to foreign countries to get any kind of education. But if you know world history usually when a country is under foreign military occupation the educational system of that country becomes stagnant or gets very few improvements – with only one exception to the rule – the Soviet Union – in most countries that they did occupy or had major influence education became a priority.


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Joao da Silva: “Unfortunately, my friend, you are talking like many Brasilian politicians in a forum that consists of intelligent and educated people (including Brasilians). Sadly, your arguments "Não colam" !!”


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Ricardo: I am not talking like a politician as you are saying.

I am talking as realist that lives in a ruthless capitalist country – and I understand the mindset of these guys – nothing matters as long you can raid any assets and take it away - It can be a pension fund, a company, it can be any assets around the world – if there is wealth anywhere and it is not protected there are enough ruthless people today that would find a way to take over that wealth.

I was watching yesterday a program on CNN about how powerful a company such as Blackwater has become in Iraq, and in many instances they are better than the US military, since many of the people that they employ used to belong to the US Special Forces and today they work for Blackwater. Today, these guys have an army and the technology necessary to take over Brazil and the Brazilian government if they desire to do it.

Most people still have the mindset of yesterday, and they have no clue of what is really going on today – most people don’t have the understanding how the world works today, and the new military capabilities that have developed almost overnight.

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Reply to Forest Allen Brown
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 21, 2009

Forest Allen Brown: "Ricardo C. Amaral you are the stupid one saying that the US had no intrest in coulmbia before they found oil . why is there an hospitial in bogta named JOHN F KENNEDY HOSPITAL built in 1962 ???"


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Ricardo: How many military bases the US had stationed in the gounds of that hospital?

Since the subject of this thread is military bases and military capabilities of the countries in South America.

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Serious considerations - Reply to Ricardo (some partial agreements)
written by Augustus, August 21, 2009
It must be recognized the logic outlined in the above statement whereby countries act in accordance with their national interest. Yet, this is another tenet from the past, where nation states were the most important consideration. Nowadays, while the nation state remains crucial, I am (nearly) convinced that political superstructures containing nations with similar interest, cultures and basic beliefs (e.g. the Western World – possibly exemplified in the shape of current NATO). Because the United States, United Kingdom, or any other major Western nation could possibly consider living in an isolated position, whereby self-centered policies designed exclusively to benefit themselves at the detriment of their allies, all Western Nations are likely to current realize, for the most part, that what is in the interest of the “bigger group” should supersede egotistical objective of single countries of the faction, recognizing that, without strengthening the Whole Cluster, they would be also negatively impacting each individual unit in the long run (e.g. the struggle of a barbaric, brutal Islam against the civilized, advanced Western World)

As for the Colombian issue vis-à-vis the American bases, while upholding my original, previously stated views for the official reasons for their establishment (while also recognizing my proclivity towards maintaining a “Weltanschauung” –world view – influenced by the 20th century East-West conflict), I will agree that such motives must have become paramount in Washington when oil was discovered in Colombia, in the Brazilian off-shore, and Venezuela became the largest holder of global oil-reserves.

Finally, despite the immense obstacles which Brazil would have to overcome (technical, political and financial), and despite the huge controversy it would certainly generate, I must agree with Ricardo that Brasilia should consider developing at least the necessary technological base/infra structure for building a Nuclear Weapon (possibly together with Argentina, Chile, and Uruguay – in which case it would be considered a “MERCOSUL BOMB” – in order to avoid the opposition from its closest neighbors and trading partners). Although I feel saddened by such conclusion, given the nefarious possible outcomes which a global nuclear arms race would trigger, taking into account that such race has already started, I fear that the Brazilian government must take whatever steps which may be deemed necessary in order to reduce its growing exposure and helplessness within and increasingly aggressive and resource hungry Earth.
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written by Manda Chuva, August 21, 2009
(possibly together with Argentina, Chile, and Uruguay – in which case it would be considered a “MERCOSUL BOMB” – in order to avoid the opposition from its closest neighbors and trading partners).


You are going to incur the curse of a Catholic Bishop, by not including Paraguay in this important project!
Paraguay? Curse of a Bishop?
written by Augustus, August 21, 2009
As if Paraguay could be honestly considered a viable nation...

As if the views and opinions of representatives of any surviving Mythological cult could provide any impact on an individual who considers all religions as ridiculous irrelevant creeds which should be rendered illegal worldwide…
Augustus
written by João da Silva, August 21, 2009
Here is an interesting comment from a fellow Brasilian.

Os estados unidos, a frente do império anglo-americano, vem implantando um plano que nao é novo, de criar um governo central , uma "nova ordem mundial" (NOM). Até o lula vem clamando pela NOM, junto com muitos outros chefes de estado. Em 2008 o CFR, um orgao nao-governamental americano, que na pratica dita as politicas externas americanas criou um plano para usar diferentes crises globais para estabelecer uma ordem globa. Enfim, obama veio a duas semanas e usou EXATAMENTE OS MESMOS PONTOS para cooperar com a ONU. O que isso quer dizer? Obama esta levando adiante o plano do CFR de governo global, moeda unica, exercito unico, e diria mais, religiao unica e controle total. leia mais sobre isto aqui: http://www.anovaordemmundial.c...o-cfr.html


I think DnB was and Forrest is still talking about this. Food for thoughts for you. smilies/wink.gif

BTW, who is that idiot "Manda Chuva"? Is he ch.c under a new alias?
Global Government? Just and idealistic but unfortunately unfeasible dream, given the status quo
written by Augustus, August 21, 2009
Surprisingly I was not aware that such enlightened discussions were in progress, for I have always dreamed for a United Earth including all civilizations of Humanity in peace and harmony. A dream that I have always hoped for Humanity to achieve by the middle of this millennium, for it cannot be anything short of a dream at this point of in Mankind’s history…

Given human nature and the current existence of so much hatred and discrimination, which stems mostly from the shackles of primitive irreconcilable mythologies which have splintered mankind for millennia, urging their faithful to the destruction of those unholy ones who do not share their “true faith”, I can scarcely believe the nations of the early 21st century could succeed in such an endeavor… Unfortunately!

The only scenario which might perhaps unite Humanity at this point would emerge only in the event we were to make contact with an entirely different intelligent species emanating from a distant star or galaxy; particularly if such species were to pose (or appear to pose) any remote type of threat to mankind. Indeed, because of Man’s inherent capacity to hate, fear, discriminate and murder, I have no question that mankind would immediately unite either for defensive or OFFENSIVE purposes…

The bottom line: Fear not, for humanity is far from ready for a Global Government. Most likely we should fear the possible imminence of another global conflict!
RA
written by Forrest Allen Brown, August 21, 2009
There has been a US military presents in coulmbia ever sencs the panmaw chanal was built as the US paid for part of the darian jungle from columbia back then .

then ww1 the US had baces there and again in ww2 as we did in brasil , most of the air ports in the north of brasil are from old US military baces .


the US embassy in coulmbia had 3 times as many as any other country in the south , as castro was looking to them as friends of the US and still does.

as coulmbia is a nation unto itself than why does brasil and the others try to tell them how to run there own country .

i saw no one tell chaves they did not want hin buying billions of dallors of war equipment and seting up a plant to build ak47 type wepons , and making friends with every one whom had a bone to pick with the US ( not one word said to him)

and with the US 747 SS and ls who cares .
Augustus
written by João da Silva, August 21, 2009
The only scenario which might perhaps unite Humanity at this point would emerge only in the event we were to make contact with an entirely different intelligent species emanating from a distant star or galaxy; particularly if such species were to pose (or appear to pose) any remote type of threat to mankind.


May I remind you that an ET has already been blogging with us in this site, though I am not sure if he poses any threat to the mankind.

The bottom line: Fear not, for humanity is far from ready for a Global Government. Most likely we should fear the possible imminence of another global conflict!


I am afraid that you are right. We have gone back a 100 years and I have buried all hopes for the "United Earth" and share your view that we are closer to another Global conflict. Sounding apocalyptic? No, realistic!!! Just go back and re-read your own exchange of comments with ASP and me in another thread about "ancient Civilizations". smilies/cheesy.gif
Reply to Augustus
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 21, 2009

In reality the only country that would be a good addition to become a co-development partner in a nuclear arms program it would be Argentina.

The other countries that you mentioned their contributions would be irrelevant.

As a matter of fact we could go as far as letting the Argentineans win the soccer game on September 5, 2009 to help them qualify for the 2010 World Cup - as a token of our appeciation of such a new partnership.

But that is as far I would go with that agreement, if Brazil meets the Argentinean team during the 2010 World Cup the best team should win the contest.

Losing a soccer game to Argentina is a painful experience, but it would be worth the price to forge this new military partnership with Argentina.

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Reply to Augustus
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 21, 2009

Augustus: “Surprisingly I was not aware that such enlightened discussions were in progress, for I have always dreamed for a United Earth including all civilizations of Humanity in peace and harmony. A dream that I have always hoped for Humanity to achieve by the middle of this millennium, for it cannot be anything short of a dream at this point of in Mankind’s history…”


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Ricardo: I never had such a dream as you described, since I am a realist.

My dream is that Brazil becomes one of the most important countries in the 21st Century, and we become the new United States of this new century in terms of lifting all the boats in Brazil and creating a massive middle class and increase the standard of living as high as possible to the largest number of Brazilians.

Basically follow in the same path that China is following in China in terms of lifting most boats out of poverty into a middle class status.

My dream is realist and can be turned into reality, since Brazil has all the resources to achieve such goals. The only thing that still is missing in Brazil for these goals to be achieved is the proper government leadership.

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Reply to Ricardo: Sharing the dream for a Greater Brazil
written by Augustus, August 21, 2009
How could I or any other Brazilian not agree with Ricardo Amaral’s noble dream for our country? However, I would concur only that such amazing dream should be seen from a prism whereby it would be mildly more realistic than my other, greater expectations held for mankind as a whole; for our beloved, gentle sleeping giant has been caught up in such a latent condition for so many centuries, that any "awakening" would require a great deal of noise and turbulence...

Just contemplating what would truly be required for our giant to finally wake up, makes me giddy and lightheaded in view of the immensity of the pre-requisite tasks:
1.Agrarian / Land reform in order to provide the means of sustenance to millions of near indigent, landless peasants and slum dwellers
2.Overhauling of the education system in order to better furnish the schools, while considerably increasing the financial and moral compensation for (basic education) teachers, thus attracting the required talent and in greater numbers in order to instruct and coach the ignorant masses.
3.Upon achieving points 1 & 2 the nation would have to utilize a greater portion of Oil revenue in order to finance construction of more universities in order to increase the number of technicians, university professors, and scientists
4.Upon completion of step 3, the government would have to make higher education available to the underprivileged at not cost, thereby raising tens of thousands of individuals into the middle class.
5.In order to enhance point 4, increased taxation for the very wealthy would be paramount for financing an array of social programs including child care, clinics, and sanitation.
6.A substantial increase the military and defense spending, including the previously mentioned necessary research required for building “at will” nuclear weapon in order to secure in not only the maintain the sovereignty of the South Cone nations but also to protect its invaluable, coveted resources (ranging from Oil to Copper);
7.A complete rebuilding of the national infrastructure ranging from ports, airports, roads and railroads (not to mention the required studies for implementation of MAGLEV- a highly discussed form of rail transport for this century using magnetic levitation);
8.A complete overhaul of the political system, preferably by the replacement of flawed the presidential system (which has been proven to be inadequate for Latin American) for a parliamentary form of government (based on either the British or the Spanish model), whereby a much STRONG and FLEXIBLE Parliament. Under such system the people would be empowered with the advent of “Rules of Non-Confidence” as their representatives would be poised to rapidly generate new round of elections and thereby making democracy truly TANGIBLE for our nation… Indeed, under these political conditions the people’s representatives would be compelled to listen to popular grievances against existing governmental policies, scandals and unacceptable programs without the need to await 4 to 6 years to exercise their wishes whereas also preventing the emergence of Strong Men (Caulilhos) such as the likes of the criminal Hugo Chavez and his obnoxious gang (CORJA de bandidos). Such step might not only possibly reduce the unacceptable and historically high level of corruption but it would also, most importantly, deter any the threat to LIBERTY!

Because the above measure represent only the most basic tasks required for Brazilians to reach the “Promise Land of Prosperity and Preeminence” as outlined by Ricardo Amaral that I fear it may not be considered a realistic expectation even for the closing decades of the 21st century.
Additional remark on Ricardo's reply: The Southern Code Alliance
written by Augustus, August 21, 2009
In connection with your important emphasis on the need for Brazil to work closely with Argentina, I could not possibly agree more, for Brasilia Brazil should always consider Buenos Aires as its most important partner in all political, economic and military aspects, going forward; further development of even closer ties between the two nations is simply indispensible for the two former South American rivals...

The reason why I made a point to include Uruguay in any such partnership between the two South American giants is quite simple: as you know, the wonderful little nation of Uruguay (once known as the South American Switzerland) exists as an independent nation only because neither Brazil nor Argentina could ever have accepted (now would either of them ever accept) the l former “Provicia Cisplatina” to be part of the other (as it was temporarily the case in 182smilies/cool.gif – therefore, Uruguay should always be included in any Argentine-Brazilian endeavor (hopefully many), for in some way Uruguay should be considered like some special zone where the national essence of both nations merge.

Finally, the inclusion of Chile (which would depend upon the Argentinean ability to overcome long held grievances, naturally) was based on my great admiration for that small, long country, whose people have been able to achieve, in so short a period, not only a sound, prosperous economy, but also an extremely stable and fair political system.
REWORDING THE FORMER ENTRY - The Southern Code Alliance
written by Augustus, August 22, 2009
In connection with Ricardo Amaral’s important emphasis upon the need for Brazil to work closely together with Argentina, I could not possibly agree more, for Brasilia should strongly consider Buenos Aires – going forward - as its most important partner in all political, economic and military plans and projects. Consequently further development of even closer ties between the two former South American rivals is simply indispensible...

The reason why I made a point to include Uruguay in any such partnership between the two South American giants is quite simple: as you know, the wonderful little nation of Uruguay (once known as the South American Switzerland) exists as an independent nation only because, historically, neither Brazil nor Argentina could ever have accepted (nor would either ever come to accept) the former “Provicia Cisplatina” to be part of the other (as it was temporarily the case in 1828 ) – therefore, Uruguay should always be included in any Argentine-Brazilian endeavor (hopefully many), for in some ways it might perhaps be considered like a “special zone” where the national essence of both nations merge.

Finally, the inclusion of Chile (which would depend entirely upon the Argentinean ability to overcome long held grievances against Santiago) was based on my great admiration for that small, long country squeezed between the Andes and the Pacific Ocean, whose valiant people have been able to achieve, in a relatively short a period, not only a sound, prosperous economy, but also an extremely stable and fair political system.
Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, August 22, 2009
My dream is realist and can be turned into reality, since Brazil has all the resources to achieve such goals. The only thing that still is missing in Brazil for these goals to be achieved is the proper government leadership.


Ricardo, about the proper leadership, you are absolutely right. Augustus is also right, though I think he shares my opinion about the "lack of leadership" prevailing right now more than you do. Of course, he is a highly opinionated and obstinate person and I don't share his radical views about "Islam", OBL, BHO, GWB, etc;

As I have said many times before, we have to chart our own destiny and you quote of Charles D´Gaulle is very appropriate. Lets not forget that this odious creature Sarko is trying to sell Submarines to us and I am very skeptical about it. In case you don't know, we have plenty of Engineers trained at ITA and IME that can build a bomb or Nuclear sub. But I don't think that the "Current Leadership" and the previous one made sure that these guys were ousted out of their jobs because of their convictions and nationalism, by FHC.Many of our "leadership" went into self exile in France during the Military Government and now they are reciprocating the fine French gesture.

As for your statement on the Americans trying to invade us because of the resources, I am still skeptical about it. I am rather weary of the European powers.

As far as I am concerned, I really don't care for the politicians that are "ruling" our country. The least they can do to us is to make the voting non obligatory, like in the U.S., Canada and many other civilized countries. I would rather be left alone to drive on the election day to a remote place where I can enjoy the beauty the nature has bestowed upon our country, without the obligation of waiting in a line to cast my vote.

BTW, none of my preferred candidates has ever won an election, because they are too logical and do not appeal to the uneducated mass.
Augustus
written by João da Silva, August 22, 2009
In connection with Ricardo Amaral’s important emphasis upon the need for Brazil to work closely together with Argentina,


Objections. I never recall Ricardo´s emphasis upon the need for Brasil to work closely with Argentina. Both he and I were always in favor of Brasil charting its own destiny. He has made some brilliant comments before differentiating between "Spanish America" and "Portuguese America". Though I disagree from many things Ricardo says, one can not deny that he has a fairly good vision of the Geo-Politics as well as a very good development plan for Brasil. This plan is macro and you would enjoy reading and contributing to better it

JOAO
written by Augustus, August 22, 2009
Perhaps I have misunderstood Ricardo Amaral, yet, before he joked about soccer matches, he seemed to have recognized the need for Brazil to work with Argentina on nuclear matters (I have simply expanded it)
In reality the only country that would be a good addition to become a co-development partner in a nuclear arms program it would be Argentina.

The other countries that you mentioned their contributions would be irrelevant.

As a matter of fact we could go as far as letting the Argentineans win the soccer game on September 5, 2009 to help them qualify for the 2010 World Cup - as a token of our appeciation of such a new partnership.


Talking about an entirely different issue, you are so fond of your abbreviations, that you assume way too often that everyone knows exactly what you are discussing... As such, because I'm apparently not as cleaver as most other Brazilians, would you perhaps consider spelling out your abbreviations, when either addressing or talking about me (or my views)? e.g. OBL, BHO, GWB
(I have no idea what these initials represent)
Yet another point - Clusters of Nations represent the future
written by Augustus, August 22, 2009
I continue reiterating that the concept of nation state, which gradually evolved since the late 15th and early 16th century, culminating with the excesses of the dangerous concept of NATIONALISM in the 20th and 21st centuries will mercifully lose way to be replaced by Super clusters of nations: EU (European Union) / NATFT (North American Trade Agreement) / MERCUSUL / South East Asian Pact / African Union (although this one I consider a joke), etc.

These Mega Group of Regional nations represent the future, thus hopefully placing an end to the horrors caused which the nationalistic abuses (enhanced by ethno and religious hatred) made to man kind during the previous two centuries...

Consequently, it's inescapable for Brazilians to overcome their traditional dislike of Argentineans (and vice-versa) for the future of both nations may depend upon their ability to overcome their differences, bury the past, and work together going forward!
errata (incorrect centuries)
written by Augustus, August 22, 2009
(As I write faster than I should)

Please read well "...culminating with the excesses of the dangerous concept of NATIONALISM in the 19TH and 20TH centuries..."
Augustus
written by João da Silva, August 22, 2009
Perhaps I have misunderstood Ricardo Amaral, yet, before he joked about soccer matches,


I think Ricardo was extremely sarcastic about the Brasilians wasting their time on Soccer and Carnival.He has baited me before on this issue and I didn't fall into his trap (reservadamente falando).

As such, because I'm apparently not as cleaver as most other Brazilians, would you perhaps consider spelling out your abbreviations, when either addressing or talking about me (or my views)? e.g. OBL, BHO, GWB
(I have no idea what these initials represent)


Now you are playing "Coitadinho" by saying you are not "as clever as most other Brazilians".(85%, I presume)!!!!!

As for the abbreviations, I suggest you ask our distinguished fellow blogger ASP. If he flunks the test, we deport him back to the U.S. of A.!!!
Reply to August
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 22, 2009

Part 1 of 2


Augustus: How could I or any other Brazilian not agree with Ricardo Amaral’s noble dream for our country? However, I would concur only that such amazing dream should be seen from a prism whereby it would be mildly more realistic than my other, greater expectations held for mankind as a whole; for our beloved, gentle sleeping giant has been caught up in such a latent condition for so many centuries, that any "awakening" would require a great deal of noise and turbulence...


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Ricardo: We have one of the best countries on our planet – a very rich country in all kinds of natural resources. Brazil is one of the few countries that has almost everything and in theory could be self-sufficient.

We have one of the largest countries in the world, a terrific location in terms where Brazil is located when compared with the other countries, and most of our land can be useful in one way or another.

We have the largest amount of fresh underground water than any other country in our planet which is a very important asset.

Brazil has what it takes to become one of the major economic powers of the 21st century.

But your greater expectations held for mankind as a whole it can’t be achieved without a race to the bottom. The only way your dream can be achieved is by sharing massive poverty with the rest of the world. Basically your dream can be reached only by the lowest common denominators.

Sorry to disappoint you, but that is the reality in our planet and its 7 billion people.


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Augustus: Just contemplating what would truly be required for our giant to finally wake up, makes me giddy and lightheaded in view of the immensity of the pre-requisite tasks:

1.Agrarian / Land reform in order to provide the means of sustenance to millions of near indigent, landless peasants and slum dwellers


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Ricardo: I am sorry but I don’t agree with you on that one.

Just look what happened in Zimbabwe and what agrarian reform did to that country – total population starvation.

If we were back 100 years ago I might have agreed with you, but not in 2009.

The world can’t afford for Brazil to start a land distribution to small farmers. Even here in the United States the small farmer is become a dinosaur.

What we need is major corporations with its high technology doing the farming in Brazil to increase output, being well capitalized, and have money to do agricultural research to improve the agricultural system even more.

At this point Brazil can’t afford to distribute its land to small farmers since we can’t turn the clock to a time long gone. Land distribution in theory is a romantic subject, but in practice it would be a disaster for Brazil and the rest of the world that will depend on the future of the extra supply of food produced in Brazil.


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Augustus: 2.Overhauling of the education system in order to better furnish the schools, while considerably increasing the financial and moral compensation for (basic education) teachers, thus attracting the required talent and in greater numbers in order to instruct and coach the ignorant masses.

3.Upon achieving points 1 & 2 the nation would have to utilize a greater portion of Oil revenue in order to finance construction of more universities in order to increase the number of technicians, university professors, and scientists

4.Upon completion of step 3, the government would have to make higher education available to the underprivileged at not cost, thereby raising tens of thousands of individuals into the middle class.


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Ricardo: There is no question that we need to do a better job in Brazil about the educational system.

That is where part of my economic development plan comes in – the government has to connect Brazil with high-speed fiber optics broadband technology to make the internet available everywhere in Brazil at a very low cost.

If they do that then education would move forward at leaps and bounds – at the speed of light.


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Augustus: 6.A substantial increase the military and defense spending, including the previously mentioned necessary research required for building “at will” nuclear weapon in order to secure in not only the maintain the sovereignty of the South Cone nations but also to protect its invaluable, coveted resources (ranging from Oil to Copper);


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Ricardo: Not only protect our territory and its natural resources, but also to keep the drug traffickers and their drugs away from Brazil.


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Augustus: 7.A complete rebuilding of the national infrastructure ranging from ports, airports, roads and railroads (not to mention the required studies for implementation of MAGLEV- a highly discussed form of rail transport for this century using magnetic levitation);


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Ricardo: I have spelled out in detail most of these areas of economic development in Brazil on many of my articles.

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Reply to Augustus
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 22, 2009

Part 2 of 2

Augustus: 8.A complete overhaul of the political system, preferably by the replacement of flawed the presidential system (which has been proven to be inadequate for Latin American) for a parliamentary form of government (based on either the British or the Spanish model), whereby a much STRONG and FLEXIBLE Parliament. Under such system the people would be empowered with the advent of “Rules of Non-Confidence” as their representatives would be poised to rapidly generate new round of elections and thereby making democracy truly TANGIBLE for our nation… Indeed, under these political conditions the people’s representatives would be compelled to listen to popular grievances against existing governmental policies, scandals and unacceptable programs without the need to await 4 to 6 years to exercise their wishes whereas also preventing the emergence of Strong Men (Caulilhos) such as the likes of the criminal Hugo Chavez and his obnoxious gang (CORJA de bandidos). Such step might not only possibly reduce the unacceptable and historically high level of corruption but it would also, most importantly, deter any the threat to LIBERTY!


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Ricardo: I pass on that one.

I am not sure that a parliamentary form of government would be any better than what we have today in Brazil – many parliamentary governments have financial scandals all the time – Japan comes to mind.


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Augustus: Because the above measure represent only the most basic tasks required for Brazilians to reach the “Promise Land of Prosperity and Preeminence” as outlined by Ricardo Amaral that I fear it may not be considered a realistic expectation even for the closing decades of the 21st century.


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Ricardo: I don’t agree with you, since today we can leapfrog into the future at a speed that was never possible in the past. Today we can move into the future at the speed of light.


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Augustus: In connection with your important emphasis on the need for Brazil to work closely with Argentina, I could not possibly agree more, for Brasilia Brazil should always consider Buenos Aires as its most important partner in all political, economic and military aspects, going forward; further development of even closer ties between the two nations is simply indispensable for the two former South American rivals...

The reason why I made a point to include Uruguay in any such partnership between the two South American giants is quite simple: as you know, the wonderful little nation of Uruguay (once known as the South American Switzerland) exists as an independent nation only because neither Brazil nor Argentina could ever have accepted (now would either of them ever accept) the l former “Provincia Cisplatina” to be part of the other (as it was temporarily the case in 1820’s – therefore, Uruguay should always be included in any Argentine-Brazilian endeavor (hopefully many), for in some way Uruguay should be considered like some special zone where the national essence of both nations merge.


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Ricardo: The reason I made such a concession regarding Argentina is because the Argentinean scientists and engineers are top-notch and first-class, and the addition of these fellows would be a major asset in the development of nuclear technology.

If Jose Bonifacio of Andrada e Silva were not sent into exile in 1823, and if he had stayed in Brazil as the Prime Minister then Uruguay still would be part of Brazil to this day.


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Augustus: Finally, the inclusion of Chile (which would depend upon the Argentinean ability to overcome long held grievances, naturally) was based on my great admiration for that small, long country, whose people have been able to achieve, in so short a period, not only a sound, prosperous economy, but also an extremely stable and fair political system.


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Ricardo: Jose Bonifacio was the first leader in the Americas to establish the rules of foreign policy for the Americas regarding the interference from European powers mainly in South America.

The Monroe Doctrine came later and that applies only to the United States.

I don’t know how the Andrada Doctrine can be applied in the case of Colombia, since that country decided to turn over its sovereignty to a foreign power – in this case the United States – and become a country occupied by a foreign army. That is being done on a voluntary basis and not by force.

In my opinion the Colombians are becoming “Brain Dead.”

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Reply to Joao da Silva
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 22, 2009

Joao da Silva: As I have said many times before, we have to chart our own destiny and you quote of Charles D´Gaulle is very appropriate. Lets not forget that this odious creature Sarko is trying to sell Submarines to us and I am very skeptical about it. In case you don't know, we have plenty of Engineers trained at ITA and IME that can build a bomb or Nuclear sub. But I don't think that the "Current Leadership" and the previous one made sure that these guys were ousted out of their jobs because of their convictions and nationalism, by FHC. Many of our "leadership" went into self exile in France during the Military Government and now they are reciprocating the fine French gesture.

As for your statement on the Americans trying to invade us because of the resources, I am still skeptical about it. I am rather weary of the European powers.


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Ricardo: The reality is Brazil should not trust any other country regarding the defense of the Brazilian territory. It is time for Brazil to build all the necessary technology – including nuclear weapons – for Brazil to be able to defend itself and don’t have to rely on any other country for that.


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Joao da Silva: As far as I am concerned, I really don't care for the politicians that are "ruling" our country. The least they can do to us is to make the voting non obligatory, like in the U.S., Canada and many other civilized countries. I would rather be left alone to drive on the election day to a remote place where I can enjoy the beauty the nature has bestowed upon our country, without the obligation of waiting in a line to cast my vote.


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Ricardo: They should not let illiterate people vote in Brazil.


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Joao da Silva: BTW, none of my preferred candidates has ever won an election, because they are too logical and do not appeal to the uneducated mass.


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Ricardo: I feel the same way regarding the presidential elections here in the USA.


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Joao da Silva: In connection with Ricardo Amaral’s important emphasis upon the need for Brazil to work closely together with Argentina,

Objections. I never recall Ricardo´s emphasis upon the need for Brasil to work closely with Argentina. Both he and I were always in favor of Brasil charting its own destiny. He has made some brilliant comments before differentiating between "Spanish America" and "Portuguese America". Though I disagree from many things Ricardo says, one can not deny that he has a fairly good vision of the Geo-Politics as well as a very good development plan for Brasil. This plan is macro and you would enjoy reading and contributing to better it


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Ricardo: I would love if Brazil could chart its own destiny, but I am a realist and I know that by joining forces with Argentina then Brazil would be able to speed up the entire process since the Argentinean scientists and engineers are a very smart bunch and they are world class – might be that German bloodline.

By the way, the Argentinean scientists might already have the know-how regarding the technology necessary to build nuclear weapons.

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Ricardo Amaral
written by João da Silva, August 22, 2009
Thanks for the reply.

I am not sure that a parliamentary form of government would be any better than what we have today in Brazil – many parliamentary governments have financial scandals all the time – Japan comes to mind.


Do you have a third form of government in mind, Ricardo? I am almost sure that Augustus is as curious as I am to know your opinion about this.BTW, I think that the current form of Brasilian government is semi parliamentary and multiparty system.

They should not let illiterate people vote in Brazil.


Nor should they let them run for elected posts!!

By the way, the Argentinean scientists might already have the know-how regarding the technology necessary to build nuclear weapons.


Ours too!!
get in line joao
written by asp, August 22, 2009
"As for the abbreviations, I suggest you ask our distinguished fellow blogger ASP. If he flunks the test, we deport him back to the U.S. of A.!!! "

you along with many others have tried unsucesfully to tar and feather and run me out of the country...

perhaps they hate to see my paisly white skin dogging the women to death on the beach...or see me dance better samba steps than them...

but the truth is, all i have to do is show up for my next police ferderal apointment in 2010 to renew my residence visa , and there is nothing you all can do....ahhhhhhh (perhaps you could hire some local crack heads for a cheap price to kidnap me so i cant get to the police federal ) smile

until then you have to put up with the stench of one more american gringo poluting the area ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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written by João da Silva, August 22, 2009
but the truth is, all i have to do is show up for my next police ferderal apointment in 2010 to renew my residence visa , and there is nothing you all can do..


Ok, as long as you keep on writing your words of wisdom, we will ask the Feds to let you stay. smilies/cheesy.gif
brazil smil
written by joseph, August 23, 2009
all the talk about what brazil can do to avoid US encirclement is stupid. At anytime, when the US wants, Brazil will become part of the access of evil and lose their oil. how can they stop this? They cannot. Their military is pathetic and their people will roll over on each other in a heart beat for political survival. Best thing to do is be a great pal to the world empire, in order for the brazilian ruling class to keep their own empire.
Joseph
written by Manda Chuva, August 23, 2009
Best thing to do is be a great pal to the world empire, in order for the brazilian ruling class to keep their own empire.


Excellent comments, Joe and I am sure that every single blogger will appreciate them. The Brazilian rulers will certainly strive hard to keep their empire and I certainly don't blame them for doing so. In order to continue accomplish their noble goals, they need to kick the butts of all the Gringos in this country and make them work harder for the greater glories of our Republic.

If you need any further clarifications, please do not hesitate to post your questions in this noble forum.
Reply to Joseph
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 23, 2009

Joseph: At anytime, when the US wants, Brazil will become part of the access of evil and lose their oil. how can they stop this? They cannot. Their military is pathetic and their people will roll over on each other in a heart beat for political survival. Best thing to do is be a great pal to the world empire, in order for the brazilian ruling class to keep their own empire.


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Ricardo: Then they better act very quickly before they die a slow death in Afghanistan – the burial ground to former superpowers – first the Soviet Union and now the United States.

Besides the US will need to shrink its defense spending very drastically in the near future because of a reality check: the baby boomers are going to explode the federal government budget in the United States – every year from now on the US will need to carry an extra 3 million senior citizens on its payroll – Social Security, Medicare, Pensions and so on.

To make things worse the most expensive group of retirees are about to explode – the category they call old-old the people age 85 and older – and that group is going to cripple the future budgets of the US government.

The current accumulative debt of the US government is approaching $ 13 trillion US dollars, and they estimate that the cost related to the baby boom generation to be at least another $ 70 trillion US dollars.

On top of that the United States has not learnt a lesson from what happened to the Soviet Union, and the US is following the path to self-destruction – if you think Vietnam was the only war the US lost in the last 50 years – very soon you will be able to add the current Afghanistan War to that list.

Keep in mind: Afghanistan is the burial ground to former superpowers.

Another reality check: which country is foolish enough to continue financing the United States military adventures around the world to the tune of trillions of US dollars? And keep adding to their US dollar investments more Confetti that eventually will become worthless just like in Germany in the 1920’s.

And don’t forget idea of a United States country that most people think around the world – it does not exist anymore, since the economic system of that country had a quick demise in the summer of 2008. And just God knows what kind of economic system the United States has adopted since that time, but the US economy is imploding and become obsolete by world standards at the speed of light.

That is a major reason for Brazil to grow up and arm itself with nuclear weapons since the country that is supposed to be the ultimate protector of the Americas is very sick it is badly wounded financially and it is on its dying bed in Afghanistan.

The other question that I don’t understand is: why the Chinese would continue to finance for the United States another 7 military bases in South America?

The reality for the United States is: at the end of the day for all practical purposes the country that is keeping the United States economy afloat is China. And for how long in the future this major credit line would be available to the US? Since for the Chinese that strategy means to pile up a bunch of Confetti sky high. What the Chinese is going to do in the future with all that Confetti?

Sorry to disappoint you Joseph, but the days of the United States to be considered a superpower is on its last leg.

In reality the United States meltdown has already started, the financial meltdown has been underway since the summer of 2008, the US military demoralization in Afghanistan would be just the final chapter in the history of a former superpower, and regarding the current conflict in Afghanistan the memories of that final helicopter lifting from the roof of the US embassy in Vietnam comes to mind.

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that is a lot of ifs, r amoral
written by asp, August 23, 2009
first of all, the soviet union fell from within, from its own flawed ideologies, they just dont work .

you may be right about the usa on decline, but, i seriously doubt that they will have their internal political guts churned out like what happened in the soviet union. more likly it will be a decline like the united kingdom...

the states was run into the ground by greedy right wing conservatives with horrific standards and phrases like "greed is good","america doesnt have to write a pink permision slip to get aproval to do things", and ridiculas agendas like invading iraq, and a huge amount of gullible americans who beleived in that crap and amazingly still do.that is what is going to break america if something does, the people who call obama a socialist , who let their religion lead them , who follow rush limbaugh or newt gingrich or dick chenny...

the problem with your analasys is you leave out too many x factors. like great leadership could bring america back up. or ,some innovative technology could totaly change the landscape like the computor revolution did before the dot com exesses and greed came into ruin that era. there was a period of great prosperity and every one could work if they wanted. the poor had noticible gains in their lives,it was truly a high point in american economic history..

but, the greedy and powerful ruined it when their administration got elected, and it is a small group of powerful people from both sides of the political spectrum who ruined it and sold the american economic soul to china,and who used their greed to cause this economic melt down.

afghanistan? well,lets see...one thing for sure, the talaban are scum. look what they are doing in pakistan. using their fundamentalist bulls**t to place their bombs in crowded markets slaughtering their own people. its disgusting, thank god the usa is standing up to these human pond scum. what will happen ? lets see...

china ? for sure its interesting what they have going on..i just dont trust them.lets see if they can be the beacon of prosperity and forward motion in the human economical advances on the planet in the next 10 years or so...yeah, lets see...

about brazil and its defences...great, do what it takes to get the military confidence. that doesnt bother me at all, what bothers me is some people get all uptight about columbian bases that americans will come to and you think its colombia giving up its sovernty or some weird crap like that. if venezuela and equador are aiding and abetting farc and profiting off cocaine and arms sales with farc , colombia has every right to hook up with the usa in this issue since the rest of south america wont acknowledge this.is it any wonder people like chavez and correa are screaming like fat pigs about it? they are the main profiters for the chaos farc is bringing to the region

and your lack of acknowledgment of how much damage farc does to brazil is mind boggling, not unlike tarso genro who said brazil doesnt have a problem with farc

i have to say your analasys is loaded with "ifs" and x factors. you may end up looking like a fool...lets see...

if i remember correctly, you made some really stupid comments about what was going to happen in the obama election...your credibility isnt too strong with me
asp
written by João da Silva, August 23, 2009
some innovative technology could totaly change the landscape like the computor revolution did before the dot com exesses and greed came into ruin that era.


You are right. I am predicting the development of alternative energies to replace Oil and Ethanol as fuels. This is going to happen within the next 10 years. Even the Saudis are using their oil revenue to build "Knowledge Cities" to keep their economy going once the oil ceases to be their only source of revenue.
Reply to asp
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 23, 2009

Asp: …the problem with your analysis is you leave out too many x factors. Like great leadership could bring America back up. Or, some innovative technology could totally change the landscape like the computer revolution did before the dot-com excesses and greed came into ruin that era…


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Ricardo: You are forgetting that the US economic system based on its capitalist system that worked well for a long time collapsed during 2008, and had a quick demise.

The United States does not have the economic structure that it had the last 150 years – all that disappeared in a sudden financial meltdown during 2008. That economic system had survive a civil war, 2 world wars, a major Great Depression, but had a complete meltdown during the year of 2008. The investment banking system that supported the old economic system is no long there.

The only reason the US economy still afloat is because of massive US government intervention in the financial markets that is going on to no end in sight. And because the Chinese government still lending money to the United States – in 2009 alone the Chinese is supposed to lend to the U.S. about $ 500 billion dollars.

A large part of US weapons of war are badly damaged by the years of use in Iraq – because of the high temperature and constant sand storms. Sand is like poison to any machinery – from helicopters, to jets, to tanks, trucks and so on…

Since Barack Obama took office he doubled the number of soldiers in Afghanistan. That is a major mistake to escalate that war – there is no way the US can win that war in Afghanistan – only if you are brain dead you would escalate that war, since that is the place where former superpowers go for its final death.

Why a country would escalate a war that it can’t win, and at the same time will cost a fortune to keep that war going on?

Escalating the war in Afghanistan is the major mistake Barack Obama has made so far during his young administration. But it is a very serious and costly mistake.

The prosperity that you mentioned on your posting is from a time long gone, since today the US economy is imploding and become obsolete very quickly – many of its major industrial base is a relic of the past and most of these dinosaurs they in trouble because of the heavy with social costs of the past such as pensions and health care for its retirees, and so on…

Without major US government intervention most of these dinosaurs and Zombie financial institutions would have gone out of business such as GM, Chrysler, Citi Group, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, AIG, General Electric, Goldman Sacks, Morgan Stanley, and the rest of the US financial system.

Today, thousands of people are getting Alzheimer’s in the U.S. at an early age starting with people in their early 50’s, and the US will have a major epidemic of people with Alzheimer’s in the coming years at an immense cost – as The New York Times article said: “national costs could reach $ 1 trillion, threatening to bankrupt our entire healthcare system.”

On November 3, 2006 The New York Times published an article “The Memory Hole” and the article said:”…Nor could he have foreseen that with the significant rise in longevity over the 20th century, cases of Alzheimer’s disease would skyrocket into the millions. Paradoxically, we have created a civilization of such health and longevity that a disease that was once rare now threatens us all.

There’s no good way to die, but some are far worse – and far costlier – than others. The plodding progression of Alzheimer’s devastates not only the patient but also a wide circle of family and friends forced to witness and participate in the long decline. The disease costs a fortune in medical and nursing fees and lost wages; a conservative estimate is that the current five million cases in the United States add up to more than $ 100 billion annually.

If that sounds like a lot of money, keep in mind that the baby boomers have not started turning 65 yet……15 million Americans could have Alzheimer’s – about 100 million people worldwide – and national costs could reach $ 1 trillion, threatening to bankrupt our entire healthcare system.”


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And this massive Alzheimer’s Tsunami in the health care area is related only to Americans affected by this disease.

Where the money is going to come from to pay for all the US government bills that are coming due?

By the way, a massive amount of debt way above the capacity of the US economy to generate the necessary cash for the US government to be able to pay its bills in the coming years.

In a Nutshell: A reality check would tell you that the best days of the US economy are long gone, with no prospect of ever returning – at least on our lifetime.

I said: “at least on our lifetime,” because look around and you see that the Chinese is finally coming back after a few thousand years.

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legalise marijuana, and , that would start the solution
written by asp, August 23, 2009
there is no doubt the usa is a sick puppy, with lots of problems nipping at its heels...

but you are implying it is going to cave in like the soviet union. im more inclined to think it is going to go into decline.

just as a small amount of people tanked the country, a small amount of the right people or ideas could bring a lot of solutions

like the one i mentioned above. marijuana is a much safer recreational drug than alcohol or nicotine. its cash intake is unbeleivible . its only uptight mentalities, that would rather suffer in decline than forge ahead, who will hold the usa back.

that is just one example, there are many . its really up to the people. if they want to solve the problems with progresive ideas, sending messages to the polititions to impliment these solutions, they can overcome these obstacles. if they want to stay in conservative, uptight, tied up with religios dogma and greed ,ways of thinking , they will stay stuck in the mire..

yes, who knows what the outcome of afghanastan will be. maybe you are right, but only because the talaban will hide among the people and over the border in pakastan. it will be the people of afghanastan who ultimitly decide if they want the talaban or not.

but the scum talaban should be confronted by someone. they are truly toilet paper to wipe an ass with because they try and force sharia law , some of the most backwards thinking in the world , on the people of afghanastan.and they have ruthlessly slauthered their own people in pakastan..this is the most disgusting thing of all, they just dont care about anyone

whether the usa prevails, we will have to see, but, it is really up to the afghan people.

china ? maybe they will be the power of the future. they have coasted now because they have really cheap labor. if they really make the shift to the most powerful country, they will eventualy face problems that will over welm them if they dont have the right infrastructure

we can only see if your predictions of utter usa crash and burn come true. as i said, if it doesnt, you are going to look really silly.
US Decline - In agreement with ASP
written by Augustus, August 24, 2009
There's no question that the US deciline has started. Yet it will NOT happen like it occurred in the USSR (in spite of the similar tragic Afghanistan's connection).
you may be right about the usa on decline, but, i seriously doubt that they will have their internal political guts churned out like what happened in the soviet union. more likly it will be a decline like the united kingdom...

ASP is completely correct.
In fact, while the SYMBOLIC event preceding the United Kingdom downfall from Super Power Status was the horrific Atlantic desaster of an UNSINKABLE state of the arts Transatlantic vessel during it first voyage - THE TITANIC - the equivalent SYMBOLIC event for the USA was the horrific events of 9/11...
Rise & Fall of Empires for the past 400 years
written by Augustus, August 24, 2009
(The following text represents an excerpt from my blog)

At the close of the Seventeenth Century, following a long, bloody epoch of religious conflicts, the development of Political Philosophy along the concept of “Liberty” enabled the British Empire to surface as the third Global Super Power (following Rome & Spain). Despite its inevitable blunders in terms of socio-economic exploitation, the relatively benign British Imperialism along with a significantly less intolerant Anglican church, spread the seeds of “freedom” and “representative government” whereas establishing the foundation for a world where Slavery became illegal (1806).

Similar to its historical predecessors, at the dawn of the Twentieth Century, the gradual decline of Great Britain as the World’s main power was further exacerbated, notwithstanding its enormous wealth, naval force, and sizable colonial territories. Yet the highly sophisticated British ruling classes were self-delusional in their inability to recognize the upcoming downfall until compelled to face reality, immediately after the Great War (1914-1smilies/cool.gif, given the overwhelming losses sustained and subsequent economic deterioration.

As a result of direct assistance from the United States of America, which had been gradually flexing muscles in the background since the 1870’s, the United Kingdom managed to avoid financial melt-down; but was rapidly replaced as Global Leader by its very economic-military rescuers, notwithstanding the American refusal to partake in the Versailles Peace Treaty of 1919. Nevertheless, Washington’s newly enhanced global status was soon diluted by the emergence of Union of Soviet Socialist Republics in 1945, when the American government was compelled to share such prominent role with its “former allies” after their combined victory against the Axis Powers.

Although the former Soviet Union and the United States ruled supreme during most of the previous century, analogous to their historical predecessors, both nations inevitably witnessed their decline, in spite of opposing ideologies. Whereas the USSR suddenly crumbled in 1991, when their “union” disintegrated and their “colonies” were lost, the USA’s fall from grace has been significantly more gradual. Yet, regardless of a brief period of “revival” during the Reagan & Clinton years, I daresay that the tragic historical events that transpired on September 11, 2001 are bound to be eventually identified by future historians as the official benchmark closing the “Era of American Predominance”.

Nearly identical to the backstage upsurge of North America during the late Nineteenth century, in “copy-cat” format, the People’s Republic of China appears to be “setting the foundations” to make its claim in the prominent role of World Super Power, as it has been aggressively poising itself as the next Global Leader – yet, I daresay the Chinese Communist Party does not seem to be moving along in the same discrete fashion as its predecessor, exactly one century ago.
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written by João da Silva, August 24, 2009
Nearly identical to the backstage upsurge of North America during the late Nineteenth century, in “copy-cat” format, the People’s Republic of China appears to be “setting the foundations” to make its claim in the prominent role of World Super Power, as it has been aggressively poising itself as the next Global Leader


I don't think so about China as ya all think. They are a country with a huge population to be fed and clothed, just like India. Both the countries suffered the outside influence for centuries. The Chinese would never claim the role of "World Super Power", even if their GNP surpasses that of U.S. of A. Lets not forget the history. The Europeans raped and plundered the East for centuries. I personally think that the Chinese are happy to get the raw material from the Americas, Africa and Oceania and convert them into "Value Added Products" and resell them to the West and keep their industries (and thus economy) going. The Europeans and the Americans are happy with this arrangement, thanks to Dick Nixon and Henry Kissinger. Lets not forget Walton and many other Retailers who resell the Chinese made products through their outlets all over the world.

As pointed out correctly by our eminent and brilliant fellow blogger ASP, the Americans would invent new technologies to keep their economy from sliding down further. They may outsource the manufacturing to the Chinese or Indians (like Call Centers). Should I remind ya all again that America has the best brains from all over the world in their Universities?

So who gets screwed in this entire story? The South Americans and the Africans. If anybody has any doubt, I suggest they read the books recommended by Dr.Lloyd Cata

As for the comment of our other distinguished and scholarly friend Lord Augustus:

I daresay the Chinese Communist Party does not seem to be moving along in the same discrete fashion as its predecessor, exactly one century ago.


The "Chinese Communist Party" is being controlled by Technocrats. Take a look at the CVs of their Leaders. Besides, I still remember a commentator in this site who wrote under one of Ricardo´s articles the following:

Democracy and Human Rights were invented by the haves to keep the have-nots behind!!

So my friends, I am not worried about the Chinese becoming the "Super Power" or the American decline. I am more concerned about our Industrial base getting wiped out and we becoming the commodity exporters for another 100 years. Of course, I wouldn't be alive to see our "decline"


Reply to Augustus and to Asp
written by Ricardo C. Amaral, August 24, 2009

Augustus: “enabled the British Empire to surface as the third Global Super Power (following Rome & Spain).”


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Ricardo: You forgot France on your analysis. England became the predominant superpower only after Napoleon were defeated by the Duke of Wellington in Waterloo in 1815. During the prior decades France had been the major world superpower.

The Brazilian nation has reason to be proud of its intellectual roots; its roots are connected to the French Revolution and its intellectual minds. France was the major power in the world during that period of time (1750-1815), and Paris was the major artistic, scientific, and intellectual center of that time. The French Revolution had a major impact on world history; it changed the world.

Asp mentioned on his posting that he expects that new technological advances are going to save the day for the United States, but I don’t believe that will be the case. I read one article in one of the major business magazines – I don’t remember if was on Business Week or on Fortune magazine – the article said that a large number of Indians (the new generation) are going back to India because they think they have a better future in India, and the article also mentioned that in 2008 alone 100,000 Indians returned to India from the United States.

Under regular circumstances that would not be a big deal, but after you take in consideration some other important factors such as that during the last few decades these Indians started a large number of the high tech companies in Silicon Valley then you would realize that the United States is also imploding on its intellectual high tech capabilities.

And to make matter even worse in the last few years the United States has been exporting highly educated brain-power to places such as India, and at the same time the US has been importing by the millions unskilled workers from Mexico and other places to work as landscapers, construction workers, domestic help, and so on…

Let me give you first a little history background and let’s set the stage to show why this economic revolution is under way today, and why this couldn’t have happened before our time at the speed that is happening today. There are many factors that are coming into play and help us understand this revolutionary economic evolution of the capitalist system.

After the end of World War II, with the reconstruction of Europe under way a large pool of US dollars ended up with European banks as a result of the Marshall Plan and this new pool of US dollars become known as Eurodollars. After World War II the US dollar also became an important part of many countries foreign currency reserves.

One thing we have to keep in mind: since the end of World War II until the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, the United States benefited a great deal from the fact that most communist countries and its satellites stayed away from the international financial markets. For all practical purposes during almost fifty years until the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 the communist countries did not compete with the United States for the pool of money available for investment from around the world.

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the U.S. has a lot more competition from other countries than in the past for this pool of money available for investments on the international financial markets. But the people from countries around the world are still operating under their old mindset and they have been financing the US government humongous budget deficits. Global insecurity regarding terrorism created an unique situation in the last five years in which the United States have been allowed the hogging of almost 90 percent of total global savings - year after year.

This unique situation can’t continue much longer and investor’s mindset has started to change finally. There is a real possibility that in future years the competition will become very tough, and a large portion of this pool of global investment money will go to other countries instead of the United States.

It takes time for people to change their old mindset and their old theories and start adapting to the new circumstances and the realities of the new global economic environment – mainly today when we have a new and unique global economic structure as never seen before.

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We need to make a movie about this !!
written by Fernando C, September 16, 2009
We should have more patriotism and copy the americans when they made movies during cold war about likely Russians intentions towards US.

Title " The last american fighter " or " The invaders ", of course it has to be a brazilian productions and it needs a portuguese title.

In the end of the movie brazilians accept being dominated by a foreign ruler. Because Brazilians are damn cowards.
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written by Ricardo C. Amaral, September 17, 2009

Fernando C: In the end of the movie brazilians accept being dominated by a foreign ruler. Because Brazilians are damn cowards.


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Ricardo: How did you arrive to that conclusion?

What the C stands for on your name? C as in coward o C as in cornudo?

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written by troubled, February 09, 2010
Wow! I agree with "asp" and other comments here about the delusional paranoid nature of the main story. The US invading Brazil to take their resources???? Ha-ha! Sure, I am a socialist and critical of US imperialism as well as any of the power hungry moves of all the lesser local super powers such as Brazil, Iran, India, etc. Ricardo A: yeah, sure I agree that there are great forces of greed in the US (as well as elsewhere), but you also seem to be missing something that seems obvious to me: Americans wouldn't stand for it. I don't know where you live in the US or who you talk to, but most Americans could no longer bear the hypocrisy of the war in Iraq, and in that case there was at least for some time, the thin veil of deception that made it acceptable to many Americans: Saddam Hussein was a loose cannon, who tortured and gased his own people and the shiboleth of weapons of mass destruction). Even though Brazilians (apparently yourself included) burn with resentment against the US, and seem more willing to jump in bed with the Chinese and Iranians just to thumb their nose at the US, Americans, if they have any feeling at all about Brazil, it is warm regard and wishes for their prosperity and happiness. So how could the US government persuade Americans, and our allies no less that this was essential. You seem to have a stilted superficial view of Americans if you think we would tolerate this. Besides, occupying countries is a form of domination for the sake of stealing their resources that has been increasingly obsolete. The Vietnamese made the US military understand the "hearts and minds" must be won; in other words, if the invading force is not perceived as just (as were the Americans in Europe post WWII) then the occupation is doomed to failure. How the hell could the US occupy Brazil, when we can't even occupy Afghanistan, a very small and extremely impoverished country??? This article and many of the response here are such goofy silly talk. More importantly, if the resources of Brazil are to be exploited by corporate interests, whether US, China, or the EU, or whoever, it is going to be through business deals, not through military force. And sadly, like many jingoistic Brazilians, you seem overly paranoid and critical of the US, and not acknowledge it be through the complicity your own ruling class who would sell out Brazil in the end.
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written by troubled, February 09, 2010
asp: I enjoyed your comments. One of the many hypocrisies of many Brazillan's I find frustrating is that they are living on resentment about the US supporting dictator's in Brazil and South American during the Cold War. Yes, didn't the entire world divide along these lines. Would Brazil rather have done better joining Cuba? Now, in retrospect it is obvious that the US was endorsing dictators in S America, but after living in Brazil, and seeing the depth of corruption, deception, and delusion in their culture at large, I have to wonder to what extent the dictatorship grew out of the Brazilian culture, and was not simply foisted on them by the US. I am guessing if there was a democratic regime in power that was pro-US and anti-Soviet Union, the US would have been just as glad to support them? Brazil has had a long history of flirting with fascism: while the US was fighting the fascist in Europe, Brazilians were making deals with the Nazis. And there is an amnesia in the country about this. Just as the country currently operates on a generous base of blind jingoism that ignores much of the corruption and lies of the current government, I have to wonder who are the Brazilians who were complicit in supporting the dictatorship on a daily basis.
As you said (asp) the US did not occupy the country: it was the Brazilians themselves who went along with this. It would serve the country better to have a serious reckoning of conscience much like Germany did after WWII, rather than just continue to blame the US for all its troubles. But of course it is always easy to demonize and blame others rather than take responsibility for the mess that you have created.
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written by troubled, February 09, 2010
Ricardo A. While I agree with you that the greed is a very powerful force in the US that should not be underestimated, and I wish the people of Brazil far greater success and happiness than they have experienced. I agree with Augustus as dreaming for a more just, equitable world for all nations. I don't see it in our time, but clearly the world is, and must go in that direction, despite our darker nature that would pull us in the other direction. There are many signs indicating this will happen: we no longer operate under the older divisions of racism that were taken for granted in the days of high colonialism. Despite you giving examples of racist people from the early 20th century, you seemed to be not noticing that things have changed:certainly in the US, this narrative of racism has greatly deflated, except for nutcase poorly educated folks. the internet itself connects us to each other no matter where we are on the globe, and help us see commonalities, and mutual hopes and projects our nations could work toward. The idea of any nation occupying Brazil is obsolete. Even if the Nazis occupied all of Europe, how would the maintain it? Every country and person under the boot of the Nazi's? Not enough Germans to do so. It was a mission doomed to failure. Resistance would have lead to collapse of each nation.
But there is something else here that I disagree with. First, I don't believe that superpowers are part of the eventual path of humanity. There is something in the human heart that resents one brother being place above another, one nation placed above another. This is why a more equitable system is inevitable, even if it takes centuries of moral and cultural progress and evolution. So, I am not concerned that the US will loose its superpower status to China, since I think the whole idea of a superpower is flawed. So what I hear from you, is not a wish for a more equitable system, but simply Brazil being the next US. Well, unlike many of the delusional jingoistic Brazilians on this site, I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. Brazil doesn't seem to be able to be honest about it's problems, hence, it seems it will live with them for quite awhile. I have my doubts that offshore oil will necessarily make Brazil a more equitable or less corrupt nation: sadly, it could continue much like it has gone for centuries. Furthermore, while the US has a legacy of racism, exploitation and racism, it continues to evolve. I even if the global super power status of the US is diminished, I am very optimistic about the future of the US. We have great diversity of culture, which has created a synergism of creativity as well as vast research and development abilities. The Bush era was a response to 9/11. The American people continue to evolve a more steadily in a more progressive democratic worldview that is respectful of other nations autonomy and prosperity. All I hear on this blog is resentment. It's as if you are all sour grapes about not being a superpower. You dream of Brazil being the next China? Well, I doubt this will happen, nor should you or Brazilians dream of it. Besides, Brazil of the 60s-70s resembles China. Where did that lead to? Great disparity of wealth, and concomitant division of society, and a slow-burn civil war expressed through crime, theft and violence. Brazil the next China? that is a dream? China Inc is nothing but a super-charged fascist government bent of squeezing every bit of profit from it's mass of poor people (its almost unending resource) while simultaneously repressing, crushing torturing and silencing any resistance in its way.
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written by troubled, February 09, 2010
There is one thing to be said for the US, that you do not seem to acknowledge: for all the sham and lies, it has an authentic and substantial democratic culture ( as does much of the EU and other nations), yet this is something sorely lacking in your model China. The creepiest aspect of China's success is that unlike the US, that simultaneously developed and strengthened its democratic institutions as its economy grew, China has no such interest, hence it is quickly going the route of Brazil: a polarized society of rich and poor. And worse yet for the world, if and when China does surpass the US as the largest economy and superpower, it will be lacking the democratic vision that the US has always maintained, despite shortcomings. China Inc. if it continues on the same aggressive path, will be more like the ascendancy of the brutal Nazi's. THis is apparent now as many nations near China are increasingly struggling to survive China's domineering practices. And all this silly talk about the US invading Brazil, will look quite quaint. Yet Brazilians mired in sour grapes and resentment, can't seem to clearly discern regimes that are repressive, brutal, and undemocratic. Instead of more silly paranoid ranting about 600 American troops in Colombia, why doesn't Brazil take a hard look at the corruption and deception at the heart of it's culture. Obviously it is China Inc that craves as much resources as possible to survive on it's current growth trajectory: unlike the US, they don't have the natural resources. Obama has been reaching out to South America, but it seems bent of demonizing the US, and instead you have Lula hideously hugging the Iranian president just to make a deal. This is the government currently torturing and killing it's own people for protesting. Yet, I don't hear of Brazilians protesting and offended by this. No, it seems you would rather live off the fumes of claiming to be victims of the US supported dictators, yet not having a problem when your own president supports and hugs a war mongering, holocaust denying dictator. This is the kind of hypocrisy Brazil would need to change before other democratic nations took them seriously.
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written by troubled, February 09, 2010
The idea of one nation over another is doomed. We need to dream of mutually supportive networks, working toward the good of each other. This is already apparent in many alliances, where the values and cultures overlap and make for shared goals and dialogue. Whether the paranoid South Americans, will wake up and see that the US is not the US of 1950, the US will continue in this direction. Perhaps Brazil will continue to prefer to make alliance with brutal regimes like Iran, or super-charged fascist nations like China INC., in hope that they throw them the crumbs of their development: buying their soy, Amazon lumber and natural resources. If this is your dream, it's pretty pathetic. More like a nightmare. Ricardo despite your pathetic and spiteful fantasy celebrating that the US is going down like the Titanic, this current recession, will pass, and we many of us, will continue to dream and strive for more just and equitable future, not based on domination of one nation over another (US over Brazil, or in your dream, Brazil over the US) but the mutual success and happiness of all people.
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written by troubled, February 09, 2010
Also, I should mention another questionable aspect of this story. the author assumes the US could somehow take over and subjugate Brazil militarily and exploit the oil fields offshore. First, from what I understand, it is not clear whether this oil can be accessed. But more important, it's a paranoid idea. The US invaded Iraq and from what I have read so far, the Iraq government has not rewarded any US companies greatly. Yes, they have a presence there, like other multinational companies, but the contracts have been awarded based on competitive bidding and other issues, not because the US invaded. The war in fact, seems to have sealed the fate of the US in Iraq: the Iraqis as they grow more and more independent will need distance themselves more and more from the US. The oil production in Iraq is still getting back to pre-war levels, and the US has not gained some priviledged access to the oil. The best explanation I have heard for this stupid war was that Bush saw it as a means to test his neo-con unilateral vision of the US, and also, just as his popularity surged after 9/11, he expected his legacy to ride on being a popular war president. War presidents (justified/popular wars) are typically very popular. One theory is that this would have ensured his popularity, hence, helping him push through his domestic agenda without much opposition. Of course, now we see what a dimwit president he was. But more important, the idea of attacking Brazil for oil is ludicrous. We gained very little oil in exchange for an extremely costly war in Iraq, including loss of lives, loss of international prestige, and over a trillion dollars in debt. I think Brazil has more to fear from such paranoia since it plays into the hands of its own military industrial complex. After WWII the industrial military complex in the US grew immensely. It was such paranoia about the Soviets and China that drove it. Of course, having a permanent military armed and ready for war throughout the world only made it that much more likely that the US would get dragged into a war. As Noam Chomsky says, if the only tool you carry is a hammer, then you see all problems in the world as a nail. The neo-cons were very keen on using the US military power this way. The failures of the US in Iraq are the last nails in the coffin of this ideology. Obama may be muddling through with the recession, but to his credit, he has taken the US back to a multi-lateral agenda, in which we work cooperatively with other nations in solving world conflicts. He has opened dialogue with many countries that like Iran or Russia where previously many issues were not being resolved or even discussed. He has been able to negotiate with Russia about decommissioning more nuclear arms, and he has worked with other EU nations, as well as China and Russia in finding a diplomatic solution to the nuclear arms issue in Iran. If these efforts fail, at least it can be said to his credit that he tried engaging with other nations. But the US invading for oil? That is about as plausible as little green men invading from Mars. But that I guess such wild speculation fits in with the typical delusional loud-mouthed jingoistic Brazilian boasting so common to this blog: spectacular and hyperbolic claims abound. Is this blog funded by the Brazilian government? the Brazilian chamber or commerce? the US chamber of commerce? The sub text reads like a desperate plea to convince investors and tourists that Brazil is a paradise on Earth. This blog often appears not like a neutral independent news source, but more like a 24-hour non-stop informercial, presenting everything in Brazil as extraordinary. The message could be summarized as: US = EVIL, Brazil = PARADISE. If Brazil is such a paradise, and near to being the next superpower, it will quietly display this to the world, without needing the jingoistic advertising blitz so common to this site. In fact, I take all this as a symptom of its struggles: if it was a strong robust society and democracy, Brazilians would be more apt to think and talk critically about their problems, and not continually demonize and blame the US.
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written by troubled, February 09, 2010
The danger of an arms race whether nuclear or conventional should be a bigger concern for Brazilians than a US invasion. We don't have the capacity, nor inclination: Iraq brought woke us from the amnesia that set in since Vietnam: whether it is the US colonial people fighting the British of the 17th Century, or the Afghanis or Vietnamese fighting against a US occupation: people do not want to be controlled, directed, occupied by an outside force. So short of the US being invited to Brazil, you are not going to see any troops on your soil. Yet, this thread demonstrates something equally interesting. Just as the Neo Cons in the US whipped up fears of weapons of mass destruction to justify attacking Iraq, Brazilians are equally vulnerable to being manipulated into building up their military in response to an imaginary bogey man. Yet in this case, there is not much of an anti-war movement in Brazil, but certainly a vociferous anti-american and jingoistic streak in Brazilians, which would allow for an arms build up in the area. I suspect that such a build up would also be used in local skirmishes between Brazil and less powerful S. American countries. Brazil would be more likely to suffer the scenario Chomsky laid out: if the only tool you carry is a hammer, you tend to see everything as a nail. So far, Brazil has managed to grow without needing to us military might and threat. I think gaining nuclear weapons would be a sad moment for Brazil and the world. We should be decommissioning more nuclear weapons and reducing the potential destructive power that already exists, not adding to this mess. Take this money and spend it on social services and infrastructure for Brazil. Learn from the US. THe military industrial complex here is devouring our budget, while education and other services are being diminished in this recession.
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written by troubled, February 09, 2010
It seems obvious to me that the older conventional models of subjugating a people through the military is obsolete and untenable in the current world climate. The US would a pariah if it to its allies (the EU, Japan, Australia, and others) if it were to invade Brazil. And there are no winners in a nuclear war: just world chaos, suffering and unfathomable environmental destruction for an eternity:hence, nuclear arms are a obsolete weapons.
Likewise, the idea of super-powers will need to evolve in time as well. The US maintains a standard of living that is unsustainable for the rest of the world. A more realistic and just vision would be for the US to live more modestly and for the poor to be brought up to a higher standard of living throughout the world. I believe Americans, like many other people could learn to live within a more modest lifestyle and derive similar levels of comfort and happiness from this. The American "dream" we are sold is based on exorbitant consumption, palatial homes, high-end cars and luxury items, (BMWs, yachts, rolex watches, etc). This fantasy fuels further exploitation of our limited world resources and brings us little increase in overall happiness compared to a modest middle class lifestyle. In the talk about Brazil as the next superpower, what I don't hear is any awareness or understanding of how the culture of consumption has been greatly questioned in recent decades in the US and other first world countries that have taken this path. Neither Brazil, India, nor China should be simply aspiring to the path the US and EU and Japan have taken in recent decades. Their own people are increasingly sceptical of such a lifestyle and the dubious joy it brings. We only need a certain amount of material goods to feel secure and relatively happy: the super affluent and the trappings of this lifestyle, only contribute to greater environmental destruction, war, and squandering of resources. If Brazil, were able to control its corruption, vast inequality of wealth, crime, and bureaucracy, it would only need to bring much of the poor into a more sustainable moderate middle class lifestyle, and it would be on the road to stability and a model for other third world countries. Yet, from what I hear in this thread, there is similar aspirations for Brazil to be like the US, which I think is much like it's current path, continuing to sow the vast inequality of wealth, and pursuing the fantasy of the good life by escaping into private luxury behind a guarded compound, rather than dream about the common good for most people: better public schools, parks, libraries, infrastructure, mass transit, and protecting nature. But sadly, from what I see, Brazil and China and India seem to have similar dreams of the American ruling class and everyone else aspiring to join their ranks: they want the bling: the luxury items and high consumption lifestyle. Look closely at the US, and not silly pristine images of the American dream they sell you in Hollywood: it's a based on a unsustainable lifestyle rooted in exploitation of the American working class and third wold labor. We need a new and sustainable dream of growth development and progress.
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written by troubled, February 09, 2010
Many Brazilians on this site lapse into an "us vs them" mentality against the US. This is quite ironic considering that most Americans only have warm regard for Brazilians. Little do they know that many harbor very bitter resentful attitudes towards the US. I have trouble being sympathetic to much of it since it is not simply a criticism of obvious injustices of the past, but more sour grapes and envy of the US. It sounds like Brazilians just want to copy the US. Sadly, for all the criticism of the US, they have already copied many of the worst features of the US capitalist system and even took it to a higher level: vast inequality of wealth, glorification of business and consumption, excessive partriarchy, etc.
I once thought Brazil under Lula was going offer some serious alternative vision to world politics. Yet the more I learn about Lula and Brazil, I don't see it offering anything very different. It just seems to be aspiring to the same path as the first world, which will not distinguish Brazil. There are many initiatives Brazil could follow to create a unique voice: sustainable development of the Amazon, reducing poverty, non-militarized approach to local and global politics, etc. Yet I see modest efforts in this regard, and much bellowing here on this thread about rapid economic growth, nuclear weapons. Brazil would grab the worlds' attention if it truly could find a morale voice that was above the US and other first world countries it loves to demonize. Yet, so far, I don't see anything morally compelling about Brazilian politics and culture that would appeal to nations of the future. I just hear Brazilians whining that they don't have the bling-bling of the US that they think they deserve. There is nothing particularly compelling about this kind of rant.
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