A set of documents published by George Washington University's National Security Archive on August 16, 2009, contains fresh and vivid evidence of United States actions and attitudes towards Latin America in the early 1970s.
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and what about the other story about what was happening back then ? written by asp,
August 25, 2009
the one about the kgb having agents in south america in militaries, media, universities, and congress ( this is a fact i heard from a casural interveiw with and ex kgb high high ranking on globo)
what about the various people in south america that trained in cuba and china ? cuba was a real hub of training people from their perspective countries and sending them out into africa and south america to try to export the marxist flawed violent revolutions to these places...
this information isnt really a big deal...the brazilian general just is telling him of the situation and that they could help chili's pinochet, but they didnt need to...most of these military dictators didnt need outside help, they did what they did internaly.
they did have tacit support...it was a brutal crackdown...they did overthrow elected officials...
compared to 20 million eliminated in russia, millions killed in chinas back to the campo,6 million in killed by the khemer rouge, 60,000 killed by castro...the south american numbers are small...less than a thousand killed in brazil, 33,000 killed in argentina etc
that doesnt justify the brutality, but, all sides of the story need to be told. this flaming only one side of the story only is cover for the flawed ideologies of a chavez or his puppets ,to hide behind and blame the usa to get them out so they can run thier coke and arms deals to make bug money for their power...all sides were dirty in the cold war...
tell all the sidesm not just one side...
by the way, in south america , all the dictators are gone, but, in cuba, they still remain
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here are some facts from some documents reccomended in the article written by asp,
August 25, 2009
** In the fall of 1970, the CIA ran a series of covert operations targeting then-President Eduardo Frei. The objective was to stimulate his "machismo" to block ratification of Salvador Allende's electoral victory.
** After Salvador Allende's election, the United States considered trying to get Chile expelled from the Organization of American States.
** U.S. officials were well aware of the military's atrocities in the aftermath of the coup, but still rushed new economic assistance to Chile, and ordered CIA covert propaganda operations aimed at "improving the Junta's image."
these are some of the basic arguments that those documents put forth in the link above in the article...
i wonder what the kgb was up to in the area ? we need to compare their documents to really get the total picture...
where is the real heavy boots on the ground usa invasion and complete control of the situation ? where are the brazil troops ?
this had more to do with their own inner conflicts and their own determination of their military, right or wrong. they didnt need any outside help. they got tacit aid and support from the usa and the brazil military...this was the cold war. the soviet union was trying to gain control of everything they could in the area also, and both super powers were freely invited in by the oposing sides involved in the conflicts
tell the whole story
to make it out like some gigantic hegomonic totalitarion control is exagerating...just tell the whole story...
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confused article written by Joseph,
August 27, 2009
I am not sure where this article is going.... but anyway, and regardless, the article was written in a vacuum with no information concerning the KGB and the training of communist militants ready to throw their lot in with the USSR. Overall, a very incomplete article lacking consistency and clarity of ideas.
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Alex Constantine's Blacklist written by Alex Constantine,
September 20, 2009
"the article was written in a vacuum with no information concerning the KGB ... "
The KGB was a boogeyman trumped up by CIA jackals to scare Chileans, similar to GW Bush's invocations of Iraq after 9/11. The value of this article is the exchange between Kissinger and Nixon, who knew the KGB had nothing to do with the coup orchestrated by ITT and the CIA, one that left the Santiago River stopped up by headless bodies.
Mass murder by the CIA was motivated by corporatism, not Cold War political factors, as other commentators claim.
We need to keep CIA trolls off the Internet. They are constantly interefering in the expression of free speech with transparent attempts at perception management and opinion formation - always on behalf of American fascists and Nazi collaborators like Nixon and Kissinger.
what about the various people in south america that trained in cuba and china ? cuba was a real hub of training people from their perspective countries and sending them out into africa and south america to try to export the marxist flawed violent revolutions to these places...
this information isnt really a big deal...the brazilian general just is telling him of the situation and that they could help chili's pinochet, but they didnt need to...most of these military dictators didnt need outside help, they did what they did internaly.
they did have tacit support...it was a brutal crackdown...they did overthrow elected officials...
compared to 20 million eliminated in russia, millions killed in chinas back to the campo,6 million in killed by the khemer rouge, 60,000 killed by castro...the south american numbers are small...less than a thousand killed in brazil, 33,000 killed in argentina etc
that doesnt justify the brutality, but, all sides of the story need to be told. this flaming only one side of the story only is cover for the flawed ideologies of a chavez or his puppets ,to hide behind and blame the usa to get them out so they can run thier coke and arms deals to make bug money for their power...all sides were dirty in the cold war...
tell all the sidesm not just one side...
by the way, in south america , all the dictators are gone, but, in cuba, they still remain