Brazzil

Unfortunately, Fernando Henrique shows his waning relevance in form of rabid attacks for those he took inspiration on the Republican news media in the U.S. Very well that he may have managed to tame the economy, but he also sold huge brazilian assets below market value making people to pay the price tag.

Besides, Mr. Daniel Dantas, a white-collar criminal, made quite a big fortune under Fernando Henrique's watch. For reasons like those, he failed to govern in people's interests and is heading to irrelevance. As a sign of this, some opposition leaders are even trying to convince the likely candidate, Mr. Serra, to dismiss Fernando Henrique's policies.

No reasonable brazilian will buy them back. No one wants FHC back.

Not Again.....there he comes with his jealousy again...the president that sold out Brazil's best companies to foreigners ...he sold Vale for peanuts and when Lula tries to make those who bought the most valuable mining company in the world to use some of the money to create jobs in Brazil, Mr. FHC imediately complains... PEHAPS he is trying to please the CEOs so they will send some more "money" to his Foundation..heheeheh
MR FHC you do not foul the Brazilian people anymore, we know who you are... you sold out Brazil, to foreign interests and left Brazil for dead, rampant inflation and a huge debt to FMI, but now you're really seeing what a good president can do and keep repeting that all the good things LULA has done comes from your making.....stop lying! do you think any one believes on you?
I had to make a unhuman effort to read the bulls**t you wrote in this article, and could not let you get away with your lies, so I am answering it, you will see that we the brazilian people, that you despise so much, will never make the same mistake again in electing you for a public office as long as you live.
So if Serra do not want to loose the next elections he better get rid of you from his party ASAP. you"re like a parasitc maggot who feeds in the flesh of anyone and every now and then comes out you stinking hole to utter your foul stench up on us...and Serra will stand no chance if he appears in the news beside you.

Please leave us alone ..go back to your protosarian insignificance

A very interesting article and the comments made by Wagner and Rogerio.The author of the article is somewhat correct about his successor and his ambitions. The commentators are absolutely correct about the author´s performance about the country´s top CEO.

No sane Brasilian would ever forget how this gentleman spearheaded the sale of country´s assets for peanuts. He has no moral to give any lecture to anybody. The best thing for him would be to go back to Sorbonne and leave us all alone.

Ricardo: Companhia Vale do Rio Doce was given away for a song when former President Fernando Henrique Cardoso was president of Brazil in 1997.

Companhia Vale do Rio Doce:

Sold by FHC for = US $ 3.1 billion (in 1997)

VALE S.A. ADS (NYSE: VALE) = US$ 134.3 billion (market cap as of Nov. 2, 2009)


*****


Vale S.A. (BM&F Bovespa VALE3 / VALE5, NYSE: VALE, Latibex: XVALP / XVALO), formerly Companhia Vale do Rio Doce (CVRD), is a diversified mining multinational corporation and one of the largest logistics operators in Brazil. In addition to being the second-largest mining company in the world, Vale is also the largest producer of iron ore, pellets, and second largest of nickel. Vale also produces manganese, ferroalloys, copper, bauxite, potash, kaolin, alumina and aluminum. In the electric energy sector, the company participates in consortia and currently operates nine hydroelectric plants.

History

Companhia Vale do Rio Doce (or CVRD, as the company was better known prior to 2007) was founded in Itabira, Minas Gerais, as a public company by the Brazilian Federal Government on June 1, 1942. One year later the Vitória a Minas railroad was inaugurated. CVRD, just seven years after its foundation, was already responsible for 80% of Brazilian iron ore exports. In 1966, the company inaugurated in Espirito Santo the Port of Tubarão, which was to become the most important port for CVRD and is still used to export iron ore mined from the Iron Quadrangle in Minas Gerais.

The Carajás Mine, on which Vale still has over 1.5 billion tonnes of iron ore in reserves, started to have Vale as a majority stakeholder in 1970. In 1974, Vale became the world's biggest exporter of iron ore, title which it still holds today. Then, in 1982, Vale began to diversify itself after it started to produce aluminum in Rio de Janeiro. Throughout its history, CVRD’s activities, once restricted to the Southeast, were expanded to the Northeast, Central-West, and North of Brazil, diversifying its mineral product portfolio and consolidating logistics services.

Vale in 1985 started to explore the Carajás Mine in the state of Pará just after the Carajás railroad was opened and in 1986 Ponta Madeira port terminal, which is still used to export iron ore mined at the Carajás Mines, was inaugurated in the state of Maranhão.

Vale's privatization in 1997

Vale had its control transferred from the Brazilian Federal Government to the private sector (privatization) on May 6, 1997, when the Consórcio Brasil (Brazil Consortium), led by the National Steel Company - CSN acquired 41.73% of the Federal Government’s common stock for R$ 3,338 billion, or $3.14 billion at that time. The decision to privatize Vale caused much controversy and some politicians opposed the privatization. Vale remained a public traded company both in the Bolsa de Valores de São Paulo (BOVESPA) and NYSE (through American Depositary Receipt - ADR).

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Hi Ricardo,

Ricardo: Companhia Vale do Rio Doce was given away for a song when former President Fernando Henrique Cardoso was president of Brazil in 1997.

That was a good one!!

Not the End of the Story.

TELEBRAS was given away too for a song to the Spanish and the Italians. At least EMBRATEL was paid in cash by MCI/WORLDCOM, though for peanuts.The first commentator Wagner hit the nail on the spot by naming the names!!

Oh, I don't recall about how the deal was made for EMBRAER

The decision to privatize Vale caused much controversy and some politicians opposed the privatization.

The "politicians" who opposed the privatizations survived and prospered. But the apolitical "technocrats" who opposed were fired and went into oblivion.

I hope now you understand why I am so skeptical about all the politicians in general and ours in particular!! Sorbonne trained ones are the worse ones.

I wonder what the esteemed Prof.Ted Goertzel has got to say about the comments made by four Brasilians. As far as I know, none of the four is a sociologist.

Does FHC really has the guts to come to public criticize the current government, when his was so much worse? Honestly, mister, you had your shot and didn't follow through with your promises.
Just as a curiosity, this link has a comparison between Lula x FHC. The one that draws my attention the hardest was the number of prisons carried out by the federal police and the number of people accused of corruption. Does it mean that people are more corrupt now? Or is it that the previous government was more complacent with such people?

Here's the mentioned link:

http://coisasbobas.blogspot.com/search?q=lula x fhc

Enjoy.

Poor ex-president, he is so jealous of Lula. He knows that he is going to fade into oblivion, while Lula has already made his place in Brazil's history. Lula's "Monarchy"? Really, it is with that kind of childish argument that he tries to criticize Lula? He, the same one who got himself another mandate by opportunistically changing the constitution? The real outrage of his commentary is the fact that he writes as if he has been a mere observer all this time, atop the Olympus. As if he had never been president, with power to push for the changes to the same "politics as usual" that he now berates Lula for.

No goverment is perfect, but yours came close. I miss you. I grew up seeing different Brazilian currencies, and when "Real" came was a turning point. It was a defining moment in the Brasilian History. Lula and Dilma when they go abroad, they realize that FACT -because they know the foreign Press is not dumb-, but when they are in Brasil, speaking to the masses, haha, they say the economy is good because of Lula, when we all know are due to a combination of factors. Factors that were layed in the FHC's years, and even before him. But, alas, what can we do? He is a politician right? But FHC is right, if PT wins election next year, we will become like Venezuela, Cuba, Bolivia, China...a dictatorship. After all, that's a Latin American expertise.

Cheers!

no adriana, the latin american 'expertise' is to breed people w/ your type of simplistic mentality.

brazil is not 'latin american' a nebulous term dreamed up by simplistic anglo americans & hoisted onto simplistic latin americans (spanish speakers), who define their identity as such!

brazil is an afro/euro, tropical civilization, geographically occupying most of the south american continent.

My compliments to Mr. Cardoso
The greatest intellectual (alive) in Brazil
The greatest (and SOLE corruption-free) former poltitian
The wisest, most decent, and effective Head of State which the Brazilian Republic has ever had...

As stated elsewhere, several times, if we were to have a monarchy again, we should have the Imperial Family duly restored under a Constitutional Monarchy - surely NOT imposed by a corrupt, low life populist man who is barely literate, such as (spit) Lula (a.k.a.LULU, the potential Venezuelan puppet)

F.H.C. The only decent president Brazil has ever had!

Your sense of humor these days is devastating!

The greatest intellectual (alive) in Brazil

What about you, Costinha, Ricardo and me? Just because we didn't go to Sorbonne??

The greatest (and SOLE corruption-free) former poltitian

Am I dreaming? Say it again.

The wisest, most decent, and effective Head of State which the Brazilian Republic has ever had...

What about Prez Geisel and Prez Figueiredo? You do have short memory, don't ya?

For all I care, the "Wisest,most decent (?) and effective (??) Head of state can go back to Sorbonne and remain there for ever. He can take Zé Serra, Marta, Eduardo,Mercadente, Ideli, etc; also along with him. Brasil lived without FHC for almost 20 years and it can do without him for another 20.

Anyway, thanks for the comments that really cheered me up!!!!!!!

Firstly, during Mr. Cardoso presidency, I had not yet felt re-connected to Brazil, and was not paying the same type of attention I currently do (for the past 2-3 years).
Secondly, I'm fully aware that Mr. Cardoso and his Ministro da Fazenda) were responsible for the PLANO REAL.
Finally, while attending college in New York, in some classes I was exposed to his writings (as formal part of my courses in Modern International Affairs as well Latin American Poltical Theory, Modern Imperialism and Dependency Theory - which represents one of the three branches of International Policial theory).
Consequently, my admiration for Mr. Cardoso is boundless.
Yet, I will concur that I have overlooked President Figueiredo in my previous consideration - He was indeed EVEN greater!

Yet, I will concur that I have overlooked President Figueiredo in my previous consideration - He was indeed EVEN greater!

I am glad you remembered him as the father of "Abertura". I am disappointed that you failed to pay homage to President Geisel, who was the father of our Ethanol program. When these two great men were tirelessly, but quietly working for the better future of our country and laying foundation for a fair democracy, your idol FHC was making cacophonous noises from France, to the thunderous applause of all the half assed intellectuals. At least his successor whom he has criticized so much in this article was organizing the labor unions and other less informed Brasilians to help the two great leaders to bring back the democracy without any bloodshed.

I am shocked to read that while in the college in the U.S., you were forced to read the biased writings of FHC.

Well... to be honest... the particular professor was actually Brazilian

As for the idiotic, moronic, LOW-CLAS, near-illiterate, RIDICULE, highly embarassing incompentent SUCCESSOR, while he may have been in Brzil, buying up votes, kissing "people's behind", and lying to be elected, he MORE THAN MADE UP NOW... considering the is NEVER IN BRASILIA, constantly somewhere BUT the capital... Today in London, last week in Caracas, then in Buenos Aires,Kopenhangen, Luanda, Beijing, Teheran, Lisbon - JUST IN THE PAST 6 MONTHS!!!

Well... to be honest... the particular professor was actually Brazilian

Name that fella and I shall send an e-mail protesting against his attempts to brainwash the young Brasilian students! Is he still there or back in Brasil to continue promoting his fascist views among our children.

Of course, our distinguished and erudite fellow blogger ASP would have used stronger terms to describe this fella. BUT...BUT... I refrain from doing so.

Cheers

Today in London, last week in Caracas, then in Buenos Aires,Kopenhangen, Luanda, Beijing, Teheran, Lisbon - JUST IN THE PAST 6 MONTHS!!!

Dont be so rude towards him. HE does visit our state frequently to see his family, in spite of his busy schedule overseas.

It was A FEMALE professor "conterranea" from Rio. She lived in New York and married to another professor (an American). It was a long time ago, during "Collor de Mellor" years, whom both of us objected.
Jupiter only knows where she may be at this point... Probably still lecturing there

Ricardo: I give credit to former President Cardoso regarding the success of the Plan Real.

But on the other hand regarding his privatization program of Brazilian government assets he gave the store away for nickels and dimes.

Regarding President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva the history books are going to be very kind to him and historians are going to classify him as an excellent president – a president that when he left office he left Brazil in much better shape economically, and socially than the country that he had inherited from the prior administration.

Today almost at the end of the Lula administration Brazil is a country with great prospects for the future – the future looks amazing for Brazil and the Brazilian people.

What makes his story even more unbelievable is that this man came from total poverty and very limited schooling, but that did not stop him from becoming one of the most admired world leaders of his day.

Maybe what Brazil needed to turn the corner and achieve its great potential was the leadership of a simple, and charismatic man such as President Lula.

Anyway, I wonder why some people can't grasp the obvious facts?

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My 2 cents worth comments on your latest entry, Ricardo!

Regarding President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva the history books are going to be very kind to him and historians are going to classify him as an excellent president

I tend to agree with you for 3 reasons:

1) While he may not have benefited the middle class and small businesses, he did not harm them like his two predecessors did. You forgot to cite Collar.

2) He is a great salesman that uses simple language to sell his proposals to the mass, unlike his predecessors who used to treat their fellow citizens with disdain and contempt. Many still remember FHC calling all the Government employees a bunch of "vagabundos".

3)Unquestionably, he has promoted a positive image of Brasil in the international arena.

Now that he has just one more year to go, it would be interesting to observe the succession "battle". As you know, he is the founding father of PT that was built from scratch and so far we have not seen a similar charismatic figure from that party to succeed him. Even Dilma, his preferred one, was originally from PDT. So the next 12 months will be crucial for Brasil to further consolidate its position as the largest democracy in South America.

i believe that both dilma & serra (i think the election w/ come down to these 2) are competent & dedicated. serra did an excellent job as health minister & dilma is tough wicked smart technocrat (she makes angela merkel look like a wallflower). however, neither has the charisma & common citizen touch that lula has. there's an old saying about different ways to skin a cat. in the end it's farina do mesmo sacco.

in the end, neither will divert the progress of the brasilian ship of state. the big question is who has a better shot at passing some tough fiscal & tax reform to unlock the country's 6% - 7% growth potential vs the 3.5% to 5% current #s.

i agree with ricardo, fhc did an excellent job w/ the real plan, but goofed by selling the patrimonio for a song to predatory global corporate interests. today brazil is the only major country w/o a domestic telecoms champion - especially considering that next year it is projected to be the world's 3rd largest market for computers & phones (after china & the us).

today brazil is the only major country w/o a domestic telecoms champion - especially considering that next year it is projected to be the world's 3rd largest market for computers & phones

That was precisely the reason why FHC sold the state owned companies in 1998 and his successor didn't do anything to reverse the trend. Instead, he opted to create a "domestic champion" by changing the original laws, thus killing the competition.But I don't think that Telefônica and TIM would care, because during the past 11 years they have managed to make enormous amount of profit, by cheating their customers and I am sure they would be happy to return the companies for a very high price, all financed by BNDES.

Just look at the evolution of the Telephone tariff rates from 1998 to present date to understand what I am trying to say. Also ask an older Brasilian if he has observed any change in the Pay Phones since 1998, except for more frequent paint jobs and logo changes.

A decisão solitária do líder

Fernando Henrique Cardoso, 78 anos, ex-presidente da República (1994 a 2002). Está à frente do Instituto Fernando Henrique Cardoso


"Ao contrário do que muita gente pensa, minha decisão mais difícil no governo não foi a de deixar flutuar o real. Até porque aquilo não foi propriamente uma decisão, mas uma imposição do mercado. Minha decisão mais difícil ocorreu em 1994, quando eu ainda era ministro da Fazenda do presidente Itamar Franco. E foi justamente a de fazer o Plano Real. Havia muita dúvida sobre o sucesso do plano, muitos interesses contrariados e eu poderia ter agido como meus antecessores, que foram acomodando a situação. Houve momentos difíceis, de quase desistência. Mas, nessa hora, por mais que você consulte seus assessores, a decisão do líder é sempre solitária. É ele quem será julgado pela história. Depois disso, os momentos mais complicados foram as demissões de ministros e auxiliares - alguns amigos de várias décadas. Mas, nessas horas, é preciso saber separar a ética pessoal da ética pública."

Source: This week's "Isto E" magazine. Sorry it is in Portuguese.

Thanks FHC, you gave us something that should never be forgotten. You ended decades of agony and uncertainty when we would sleep with one monetary currency and wake up with another or even worse with no money in our savings account. Unfortunately, and hope this will end soon, is this idea that education is an intellectual thing, an elite thing. I am sensing this through the media, formal and informal conversations with Brasilians. It is sad. They say FHC was an intellectual and did nothing, did not solve the Brasilian problems, as if it is easy to do it, they think it happens overnight. FHC and his admireable late wife (best first Lady we had) indeed did something, they started the social programs Lula brags about it now. The thing is they were not charismatic as Lula is. But what do you prefer? Someone that does not talk but does the walk or someone that talks, talks, talks, and talks. In his talks and manipulations he gives hope and amuzement to the masses but not concrete actions. Lula is very eloquent, especially in a way that influences people, and he discovered he can do that abroad just as good.
I only hope that we won't see in the future a political witch-hunt against people who has knowledge, intellect, education, and who speaks more than one language as a result of have lived abroad.

Cheers!

i agree the telecom issue was botched. telefonica, io, america movil (carlos slim s/b carlos fat), tim, etc. are making a killing! the only way to fix this now is to create/sell additional spectrum in the hope that it will bring in more competitors.

First off all: This FHC makes me cry... (in fact, laugh...)

All his text sounds to me like a bunch of bulls**t ! From someone very jealous and arrogant that still wants to distort the reality in favor of his personalism (caudillism ? ) and to promote his claque and his supporters (gang ?) like his old time friend Jose Serra and the innumerous today's very prosperous companies CEO's who bought from him and from his Party in power most of the Brazilian most important national and strategic companies "for a song", as brilliantly put above by one of the writers.

Second: He is not the father of Plano Real.

That glory should belong to Mr Itamar Franco, the real president who started the good changes that put Brazil back to the right track. FHC was only his minister (of Foreign Affairs, in that occasion) and was very hesitating about the plan when Mr Franco has given him the opportunity of writing his name on the stars by conducting such plan in the Finance Ministry.
Itamar Franco, who became president by heritage from Mad Dog Fernando Collor de Melo, a president without any support in Congress, needed the support of those neo-liberals from the then Senator FHC's PSDB Party -very well connected with the "Financial Lords" of that time- in order to succeed with his plan, and so Mr Cardoso was levered to conquer his eight "glorious" years in power. He has forgotten that he was first elected Senator for the State of Sao Paulo -together with the unforgettable Mario Covas- with the important votes from followers of the then small Partido dos Trabalhadores, the PT he hates so much nowadays...

He wasted his chance to inscribe his name in the history of Brazil and in the history of the world -opposite of what did Mr Lula Da Silva, who has been honored last week in NY as the World Statesman of the year- and that is his crucial dilemma.
If he was a statesman at the caliber of Lula Da Silva, he wouldn't be wasting his time with such an infamous text and spending his last eight years since he left the power promoting the destabilization of his successor at any cost.
If he was so great as he thinks he is, he would recognize his mistakes and also recognize Lula's merits, and above all, help lead his country to the prosperity, help promoting his brothers and sisters to a better life, and stop this baby's crying...

FHC's text has really FHC's face: smoke and mirrors and a bunch of pre selected academic words and expressions with which he tries to involve his readers or his contenders with his phony realism.

Wake up Mr Cardoso, because if you keep insisting in your trajectory, you will maybe also loose those few merits you've created while government...

That does not change the big picture. In any case, I am kind of distressed right now to elaborate better. After reading on the Guardian Newspaper that the student from Uniban was expelled from the university and nothing happened with her aggressors. Very sad case, on the front page of The Guardian today. The Iranian President will love to hear that when he sees Lula next week. Maybe I should refrain myself from making comments and let Brasilians in Brasil decide for themselves. But we have a long way to go.

That does not change the big picture. In any case, I am kind of distressed right now to elaborate better. After reading on the Guardian Newspaper that the student from Uniban was expelled from the university and nothing happened with her aggressors. Very sad case, on the front page of The Guardian today. The Iranian President will love to hear that when he sees Lula next week. Maybe I should refrain myself from making comments and let Brasilians in Brasil decide for themselves. But we have a long way to go.

This commentator has a shrimp head or hates the authorities.She comes into a thread that has nothing to do with the student from UNIBAN,but was one written by the Ex-President of the Republic whom she praised profusely and claimed she missed him!

Then she picked up the news from the Guardian of UK about a Brazilian student going half naked in a respectable university and consequently expelled for indecent exposure.

Then she brings in the Iranian President and Lula into the picture, who have nothing to do with the vulgar and indecent behavior of the said female in the referred university.

Does the commentator want FHC to intervene in this incident and readmit the student into the university?

What really amused me was her statement " Maybe I should refrain myself from making comments and let Brasilians in Brasil decide for themselves." Obviously she is a Brasilian with one foot in Brasil and another elsewhere, just like her idol FHC. Both are nut cases.

I was all over the place on that post. Too much emotions. That is what happens when I read too much news from Brasil. I guess I should stop for the sake of my immune system.

Cheers!

I found the text below very interesting (retrieved in the link mentioned above), and decided to copy and paste it here.
Notes:
1- the date of the publication is October 2006
2- It compares the 8 years of FHC in power with only first 4 of Lula

Is is worth the reading...



LULA X FHC

Recebi esse email de um amigo que é Procurador da Fazenda Nacional. Repito as palavras dele, com as quais concordo: "Com o objetivo de comparar algumas coisas interessantes (e não apenas desgraças) segue a mensagem abaixo. Não conferi as fontes, mas a maioria dos números bate com o que é notoriamente conhecido..."

Vale a pena ler até o fim e com atenção. São números.

A comparação entre 4 anos do governo Lula e 8 anos do governo FHC:

Número de policiais federais:
Lula: 11 mil
FHC: 5 mil

Operações da PF contra a corrupção, crime organizado, lavagem de dinheiro etc.:
Lula- 183
FHC- 20

Prisões efetuadas:
Lula: 2.971
FHC: 54

Criação de empregos:
Lula: 6 milhões (4 milhões com carteira assinada)
FHC: 700 mil

Média anual de empregos gerados :
Lula: 1,14 milhão
FHC: 87,5 mil

Média mensal de empregos gerados:
Lula: 95 mil
FHC: 87 mil

Taxa de desemprego nas regiões metropolitanas:
Lula: 8,3%
FHC: 11,7%

Desemprego em SP:
Lula: 16,9%
FHC: 19,0%

Exportações (em dólares):
Lula: 118,3 bilhões
FHC: 60,4 bilhões

Balança comercial (em dólares):
Lula: 103,3 bilhões
FHC: - 8,4 bilhões

Transações correntes (em dólares):
Lula: 30,1 bilhões
FHC: - 186,2 bilhões

A comparação entre 4 anos do governo Lula e 8 anos do governo FHC:

Risco-país:
Lula: 204
FHC: 2.400
* No governo Lula, o país atingiu o patamar mais baixo da história.

Inflação:
Lula: 2,8%
FHC: 12,53%

Dívida com o FMI (em dólares):
Lula: dívida paga
FHC: 14,7 bilhões

Dívida com o Clube de Paris (em dólares):
Lula: dívida paga
FHC: 5 bilhões

Dívida pública:
Lula: 34,2%
FHC: 35,3%

Dívida externa:
Lula: 2,41%
FHC:12,45%

Investimento em desenvolvimento (em reais):
Lula: 47,1 bilhões
FHC: 38,2 bilhões

Empréstimo para habitação (em reais):
Lula: 4,5 bilhões
FHC: 1,7 bilhões

PIB:
Lula: 2,6% ao ano (até 2005)
FHC: 2,3% ao ano

Crescimento industrial:
Lula: 3,77%
* O lucro líquido das grandes empresas com ações em Bolsa quase triplicou nos três anos e meio de governo de Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva em relação ao período da segunda gestão de Fernando Henrique Cardoso, de 1999 a 2002. Folha de S. Paulo (20/08/2006)
FHC: 1,94%

Produção de bens duráveis:
Lula: 11,8%
FHC: 2,4%

Lembrando: comparação entre 4 anos do governo Lula e 8 anos do governo FHC

Aumento na produção de veículos:
Lula: 2,4%
FHC: 1,8%

Crédito para a agricultura familiar:
Lula: 6,1%
FHC: 2,4%

Crescimento real do salário mínimo:
Lula: 25,3%
FHC: 20,6%
* Ganho real de 25,7% em três anos

Valor do salário mínimo em dólares:
Lula: 152
FHC: 55

Poder de compra do salário mínimo em relação à cesta básica:
Lula: 2,2 cestas básicas
FHC: 1,3 cesta básica

Aumento do custo da cesta básica:
Lula: 15,6%
FHC: 81,6%

Índice de Desigualdade social:
Lula: 0,559
FHC: 0,573

Participação dos mais pobres na renda:
Lula: 15,2%
FHC: 14,4%

Número de pobres:
Lula: 33,57%
FHC: 34,34%

Número de miseráveis:
Lula: 25,08%
FHC: 26,23%

Transferência de renda (em reais):
Lula: 7,1 bilhões
FHC: 2,3 bilhões

Média por família:
Lula: 70 reais
FHC: 25 reais

Atendidos pelo programa Saúde da Família:
Lula: 43,4%
FHC: 30,4%

Atendidos pelo programa Brasil Sorridente (atendimento odontológico):
Lula: 33,7%
FHC: 17,5%
* 15 milhões de brasileiros foram pela primeira vez ao dentista.

Mortalidade infantil indígena (por 1000 habitantes):
Lula: 21,6
FHC: 55,7

Número de turistas que vêm ao Brasil:
Lula: 4,6 milhões
FHC: 3,8 milhões

Pró-jovem - estudo subsidiado
Lula: 93 mil (18 a 24 anos)
FHC: ...
* 100 reais por mês de subsídio a cada estudante

Bolsa Família
Lula: 11,1 milhões de famílias
FHC: ...
* Educação e subsídio alimentar

Incremento no acesso a água no semi-árido nordestino
Lula: 762 mil pessoas e 152 mil cisternas
FHC: zero

Distribuição de leite no semi-árido (sistema pequeno produtor)
Lula: 3,3 milhões de brasileiros
FHC: zero

Áreas ambientais preservadas
Lula: incremento de 19,6 milhões de hectares (2003 a 2006)
Do ano de 1500 até 2002: 40 milhões de hectares

Apoio à agricultura familiar
Lula: 7,5 bilhões (safra 2005/2006)
FHC: 2,5 bilhões (último ano de governo)
* O governo Lula investirá 10 bilhões na safra 2006/2007

Compra de terras para Reforma Agrária
Lula: 2,7 bilhões (2003 a 2005)
FHC: 1,1 bilhão (1999 a 2002)

Investimento do BNDES em micro e pequenas empresas:
Lula: 14,99 bilhões
FHC: 8,3 bilhões

Investimentos em alimentação escolar:
Lula: 1 bilhão
FHC: 848 milhões

Investimento anual em saúde básica:
Lula: 1,5 bilhão
FHC: 155 milhões

Equipes do Programa Saúde da Família:
Lula: 21.609
FHC: 16.698

População atendida pelo Prog. Saúde da Família:
Lula: 70 milhões
FHC: 55 milhões

Porcentagem da população atendida pelo Programa Saúde da Família:
Lula: 39,7%
FHC: 31,9%

Pacientes com HIV positivo atendidos pela rede pública de saúde:
Lula: 151 mil
FHC: 119 mil

Juros:
Lula: 16%
FHC: 25%

BOVESPA
Lula: 35,2 mil pontos
FHC: 11,2 mil pontos

Dívida externa:
Lula: 165 bilhões
FHC: 210 bilhões

Desemprego no país:
Lula: 9,6%
FHC: 12,2%

Dívida/PIB:
Lula: 51%
FHC: 57,5%

Eletrificação Rural
Lula: 3.000.000 de pessoas
FHC: 2.700 pessoas

Livros gratuitos para o Ensino Médio
Lula: 7 milhões
FHC: zero

Geração de Energia Elétrica
Lula: 1.567 empreendimentos em operação, gerando 95.744.495 kW de potência. Está prevista para os próximos anos uma adição de 26.967.987 kW na capacidade de geração do País, proveniente dos 65 empreendimentos atualmente em construção e mais 516 outorgadas.
FHC: APAGÃO

* Entre os anos de 2000 a 2005, as ações da Polícia Federal no combate ao crime cresceram 815%. Durante o governo do presidente Lula, a Polícia
Federal realizou 183 operações e 2.961 prisões? Uma média de 987 presos por ano. Já nos dois últimos anos do governo do ex-presidente Fernando Henrique Cardoso, foram realizadas apenas 20 operações, com a prisão de 54 pessoas, ou seja, uma média de 27 capturas por ano.

Fontes: IBGE, IBGE/Pnad (Pesquisa Nacional de Amostragem Domiciliar - desde 1994); ANEEL; Bovespa; CNI; CIESP; Ministérios Federais e Agências Reg.; SUS; CES/FGV; jornais FSP, O Globo e O Estado;

Very interesting info

Equally interesting info about FHC is in the link below.

http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/f...2666.shtml

chance these figures were supplied by the Lula government?

Is there any . . .
written by Capnamerca, February 08, 2010
chance these figures were supplied by the Lula government?

Could be. Both are taking up the "Holier than thou" attitude. Neither of them is a saint.

Why Brasil looks like it's armed and ready to quell an internal uprising? I see heavily armed police everywhere, but they appear to be doing nothing, or very little, about crime. It almost appears as if they are preparing for some kind of insurgency.

LOL . . . I think that's sorta funny actually. Life for politicians is always something of a soap opera, isn't it? Certainly if all the truth about every candidate were known, none of them would pass the "clean" test. Nor would I.

Reminds me of the accusations of Lula trying to molest some young guy in prison. And his response?

I couldn't go that long without pussy.

This from a man who I truly believe has aspirations to be an important representative to the UN.