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Brazil's President: The Art of Fabricating a Candidate PDF Print E-mail
2009 - November 2009
Written by Emerson Luiz   
Monday, 02 November 2009 03:47

Veja Internet page on RousseffThe latest issue of Veja, Brazil's largest circulation weekly news, with a little over 1 million copies, gives us a taste of how politics is made south of the Equator. The conservative magazine often more inclined to preach sermons than reporting the news, tells about Lula's growing anti-media feelings and how the Brazilian president and his team are molding in the president's own image Lula's pick to succeed him, Dilma Rousseff.

In an article headlined "The Minister reconstruction," the publication says that the Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva's administration and his marketing men are busy trying to invent a new Rousseff. She doesn't have, and everybody knows, Lula's charisma and charm. And the attributes the PR people wish to convey are that she is from Minas Gerais, that she can talk to the men on the streets, that she cares and finally that she is very interested in protecting the environment. It's going to be a hard sell.

It took the Brazilian president three defeats in three presidential elections before his handlers changed his image from a badly dressed populist leftist radical into a more polished, well-dressed moderate. Veja notes that Rousseff, Lula's current chief of staff, has been admitted to the same lab and now is undergoing her own transformation.

Dilma is known for her austerity and lack of political savvy besides her talent to make enemies and little ability to communicate. Says Veja: "The metamorphosis is already showing early results. Last week, during the inauguration of a TV station's studios, Dilma made believe she was an actress while president Lula, handled a camera. Later, during a dinner with PP's congressmen, she made a point to go to the kitchen to greet the house's  employees.

"In another event, in São Paulo, she hugged and kissed garbage pickers who were taking part in a recycling fair. Finally, the minister, who never had much affinity with environmental issues, has been showing unheard ecological concern, to the point of being appointed to head the Brazilian delegation that is going to participate in a UN Conference about the climate."

The publication also quotes an unnamed member of the minister's staff: "Dilma has been nicer, has been smiling more and is more aware of what has to be done in a campaign." She has also been told to make simpler speeches filled with easily understandable metaphors like her boss, the president, does all the time. 

Once a week Rousseff has been meeting a small group made up of half a dozen people like ministers, politicians and João Santana, her own PR man. In these encounters she discusses what to talk about in the following days and how to approach the themes chosen by the gang.

She reserves a day every week, a Saturday or a Sunday, for training and preparation. At these gatherings she undergoes a battery of interviews and simulated TV debates. Santana and his marketing team tells her not only what and how to say things but also teach her voice intonation, posture, how to look at the camera and even what clothes to wear. Veja quotes someone involved in the operation: "She has no electoral experience. We are starting from zero, fabricating a candidate."

Rousseff will be presented as the Minas Gerais candidate and a chance for that important state to be able once again to elect the president. The last president from Minas was Itamar Franco who took the post after president Fernando Collor de Mello facing an impeachment was forced to resign in 1992.

Lula's chief of staff was born in Belo Horizonte, capital of Minas Gerais, in 1947, but she made a career in Rio Grande do Sul, in the Brazilian South. It was in Minas, however, that she grew up, studied and ended up in prison for opposing the military dictatorship.

According to Veja, the PT (Workers Party), the ruling party, decided to hire Ben Self, the guy responsible for American president Barack Obama's Internet campaign, after the net was invaded in April by a fake police report in which Rousseff was presented as being involved with armed actions against the military regime.

Self has already visited Brazil twice in the last five months. Bloggers and Internet users are now being recruited to flood social networks like FaceBook and Orkut to support the president's candidate and attack her adversaries. They are spending up to 120,000 reais (US$ 68,000) a month in this task. The magazine quotes another unnamed expert:  "Everything needs to be hush-hush. The strength of this kind of campaign comes exactly from the apparent spontaneity of the manifestations."

The magazine comments that Brazil never had a "lab manufactured" president and forecasts a virtual guerrilla war in the next presidential campaign to start officially in July, just four months before the elections.

As for Lula's exasperation with the press, Veja reminds that the president has sinned only once against freedom of the press, and this happened in 2005 when he tried to expel from Brazil New York Times correspondent Larry Rohter for reporting that president's drinking had raised "national concern" that he was losing his ability to rule. The New York Times story headline read "Brazilian leader's tippling becomes national concern."

Veja remarks that getting 80% of popularity in the polls doesn't give the president the right to be a reporter or an editor.

After saying that Hugo Chavez, Evo Morales, Rafael Correa and the Kirchners are trying to suppress freedom of expression in their countries, Veja adds that Brazil had been the exception in the region and comments, "Now president Lula himself has been drawing what he imagines to be the ideal press."

The president is quoted as saying, "I don't think the press's role is to monitor. It is to inform." And the magazine observes: "Last Thursday, he renewed the attack with the following speech, addressed to reporters who covered a ceremony that involved paper pickers, in São Paulo: "Today you have the opportunity of writing the best piece in your life. If you forget about your editor's guidelines and go deep in the middle of these folks.(...) Publish only what they tell you. Do not attempt to interpret".

And Veja ponders: "It is astounding. Lula does not read newspapers. But he wants to teach how to write newspapers. Bad news, Mr. president. Having 80% of popularity does not authorize anyone to be reporter or editor. There is no journalism in favor. There is no journalism done by the state."

The publication then goes on to say that the ruling party believes that Brazil is a simple, ideal land, that the magazine calls PTópolis, an allusion to Walt Disney's Duckburg, which in Brazil is known as Patópolis.

"The denizens of PTópolis are also divided into rigid classifications. There are those living on the top floor and those on lower floors; blacks and whites; rich and poor; good and bad; producers and loan sharks; friends and foes of the king." 

Veja concludes that the press is an obstacle when there is corruption - and there's plenty of it in Brazil - and the leader and those close to him cannot be blamed for it.

"In the perfect world of PTópolis," concludes the magazine, "there is no place for something imperfect, noisy, nosey, investigative, stubborn, free, fallible and, sometimes, even irresponsible like the press."



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Worried about the fate of LIBERTY in a Brazil... IF the infamous Brazilian Labor Party starts displaying its true colors
written by Augustus, November 03, 2009
Red is the color of PT (Brazilian Workers party), which is unquestionably a completely fake, populist, opportunistic, two-faced, demagogue and EXTREMELY corrupt political organization – which would better be described a “venomous pit of vipers”... Although credit should be given to the semi-illiterate Brazilian president for not following his advisors and corrupt party leaders to attempt amending the Brazilian Constitution in order to emulate the Venezuelan dictator (and his GANG –corja-- of equality totalitarian puppets in Bolivia, Ecuador & Nicaragua), I fear that the socialist PT is beginning to exhibit, display its true colors, and to increasingly allow its hidden agenda to emerge from obscurity: the suppression of Liberty and the Oppression of Brazilian western-oriented society!

As suggested in this editorial, the Brazilians socialists are getting increasing impatient with any kind of opposition, and anxious to emulate the SORDID, DIRTY, DISGUSTING example of the obnoxious Venezuelan Dictator; in fact,
VEJA correctly ponders: "it is astounding. Lula does not read newspapers. But he wants to teach how to write newspapers. Bad news, Mr. President. Having 80% of popularity does not authorize anyone to be reporter or editor. There is no journalism in favor. There is no journalism done by the state."
Indeed, the upper echelon of Socialist PT can scarcely wait to start vomiting the same type of garbage which Hugo Chavez and his criminal click do, on a daily basis.

Hopefully the excellent Brazilian weekly VEJA will continue fighting for FREEDOM of speech and for the LIBERTY of Brazilians, for as long as they are permitted to be independent and publish the truth.
"In the perfect world of PTópolis," concludes the magazine, "there is no place for something imperfect, noisy, nosey, investigative, stubborn, free, fallible and, sometimes, even irresponsible like the press."

As such, I would like to express my sincere appreciation for the Publishes of Veja for their courage, value and great service for the Brazilian nation.

In the unfortunate event where the (press) defenders of Liberty, despite their valiant effort, fail to warn Brazilians, and successfully prevent the emergence of a Bolivarian Tyranny in Brazil, my sole remaining hope would rest upon the good hands, conscience and courage or the ULTIMATE DEFENDERS of Brazil: The Valiant Armed Forces of Brazil: ARMY, NAVY and AIR FORCE!
...
written by Wagner, November 03, 2009
@Augustus

Unfortunately, few bigots in the media agree with you... it seems you defend a coup in Brazil pretty much like 1964.

You've got two options:
- Get a job with Rush Limbaugh.
- Shut up and get to work.

Have a nice day!
Wagner ' s options: get out of your (dirty) Red closet or have your head examined!
written by Augustus, November 03, 2009
I would never join the likes of Rush Limbaugh, for there is any other person in the US whom I despise the most!
While I'm a POLITICAL CONVESERTIVE, I'm a SOCIAL ULTRA-LIBERAL, thus I do not fall into any clear political profile, which those who are very limited - such as YOU, who are unable to either see or to comprehend what is happening and what are the obvious implications and natural consequences.

Since I live a country where Free Speech is not imperiled, HATE totalitarianism and LOVE Brazil, I shall never EVER... SHUT UP. I shall not do what the defenders of Socialist hope and demand: NO opposition. Likewise there are those who expect a public appointment in Brazil and who are willing to compromise their principles and side with PT, claiming those like me, who CLEARLY sees the DANGER which Venezuela represents and alerts others, are crazy or living in an OLD WORLD... Ask Professor Fernando G. Sampaio at DEFESA @ NET, a brilliant strategist (Geopolitics analysis & strategy - www.defesanet.com.br) or ask a honorable, valiant Brazilian - Gerson Viera (a fighter pilot of the Brazilian Air force) what they think. In fact ask anyone who is not deeply engrained with the corrupt Labor party or who is not s staunch Socialist and has A BRAIN if they agree with your SIMPLISTIC and/or BLIND view that Venezuela does not poset a threat to Brazil. YOU ARE THE ONE, WAGNER WHO SHOULD WAKE AND SMELL THE COFFEE, or get out of your hard-line left-wing closet!

“UNIDOS CONTRA O BRASIL” (Fernando G. Sampaio)
http://www.youtube.com/user/GersonLVieira#p/f/4/yVKFiH2txz0
"O ASPECTO DA GUERRA E OS INTERESSES DO BRASIL" (Fernando G. Sampaio)
http://www.youtube.com/user/GersonLVieira#p/f/3/cwnwLfMPKbo

Only those who advocate one party state, ONE VOICE, ONE VIEW, EXPECT OTHERS to shut up... NEVER, EVER, EVER!

GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH.... Perhaps you are a also a criminal and would be willing to silence me (in the same way Hugo Chavez supporters generally to against key opponents...

For your information... I do have a job... a rather good one, thank you

LIBERDADE! LIBERDADE!
ABRE AS ASAS SOBRE NOS!
DAS LUTAS, NAS TEMPESTADES
DA QUE OUCAMOS TUA VOZ!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9QlNb2Qrug&feature=related
augustus
written by sage, November 03, 2009
if you love brazil then you should live in brazil & constribute personally to the country's 'on the ground' development.

making pronouncents sitting on your ass does not translate to anything of practical value.

the 'semi-illitrate' president you condescendingly refer too has achieved more in life & done more for brazil's poor than you w/ all your 'education'.

so i suggest that a frustrated anglophile like you either get a real job doing something meaningful or shut up!
...
written by .., November 03, 2009
the 'semi-illitrate' president you condescendingly refer too has achieved more in life & done more for brazil's poor than you w/ all your 'education'.


Are you the script writer for the Blockbuster movie to be launched in January? smilies/wink.gif smilies/cheesy.gif
venezuela
written by sage, November 03, 2009
venezuela does not have the economic size, demographics, organization, technology/industrial base, military assets, etc. to ever be a strategic threat to brazil.

chavez may be the devil incarnate or have criminal tendencies similar to roosevelt, stalin, hitler, truman, bush 2, nixon, churchill, blair, reagan, thatcher, etc., but he was still elected to his post by the venezuelan people.

remember, at the end of the day, governments, ALL governments & the governance they practice, are a reflection of their people
sage - explaining "reasons / issues" raised - because of a good point NOT because I owe you
written by Augustus, November 03, 2009
If you were to indicate that you have NOT changed since you were a teen ager, or a very young man, you would either be a major exception of a LIAR!

As such, I am a VERY different person from what I was more than two decades ago, when I came to the United States. In fact, back them all I wanted was to have fun and enjoy myself, and to be as far away from Brazil as I could; thus becoming an American citizen and gradually started building a life here.

Mercifully, later better than never, my cultural affinity and affection for my original country started growing exponentially, thereby reaching a point where:
-I felt guilty for having left for selfish reasons…
-I wished I had stayed and attempted to make a difference
-I conducted a sincere heart and soul search to indentify what I could still do..

As such, while I do not owe YOU or ANYONE any explanation of what I may have done, continue doing or intend to do, since it’s solely MY BUSINESS (and I could NEVER possibly care less for what any lowlife may think or not think), I do recognize a point made! There are many of “THOSE BRAZILIANS” who brag so much about THIS or against THAT in Brazil, from a distant, relatively safe & comfortable existence the United States, like MYSELF and some OTHER NOTABLE OPPONENT (whose name everyone knows). Indeed, the right thing would be to LEAVE, go back and attempt to make a difference

Yet, some of us, for a variety of reasons (financial, heath, and countless other issues of varied degree and scope) simply cannot do that. It’s that simple. IF I COULD, not only I would do it, and actually would already have done it two years ago, when the process of re-acquaintance with the Native land got started… Nonetheless, I am taking steps to attempt spending part of my life, during the year in Sao Paulo, part of the reason for which being that I do intend to make a difference: education, raising awareness, participating in political discussions, meeting (if possible) some public officials as well as pursue my family connections within the military… As they say in Brazil: “Para bom entendor, meia palavra basta!"
sage
written by João da Silva, November 03, 2009
venezuela does not have the economic size, demographics, organization, technology/industrial base, military assets, etc. to ever be a strategic threat to brazil.


Contrary to Mr.Severus´s line of thoughts, to certain extent I agree with you. I do not want to demonize Col.Chavez and compare him with the "leaders" you have listed. I think both you and he missed a basic point. The good Colonel is a very highly educated individual and nationalistic and he will do anything to better the lives of those who elected him.Look at what he did to get into the Mercosul. Promised to build a Refinery in the N.E., knowing full well that the entire Executive branch and the Senate are dominated by folks from that region and got what he wanted! Absolutely brilliant strategy.

As for his link with FARC, it is yet to be proved. But I think that he is closely working with our Military and civilian leadership (He doesn't trust the civilian leadership that much, though) and let the Brasilians do the dirty work for him (remember Honduras?). Another brilliant strategy, I must admit.

Having said what I wanted, my view on Mr.Severus and Mr.Amaral is that both of them (like me) want leaders with "ideas", "projects", "strategies", etc; to enable our country to play a leading role in the 21st century. We Brasilians had enough of Sorbonne trained sociologists who have one "foot in Brasil and another in Paris" or union leaders who have one "foot in Brasil and another in Rome" or caudilhos who have one "foot in Brasilia and another in Miami".

I am not sure if you are a Brasilian, but if you are, you would understand what we are saying. I cant really figure out why we the educated Brasilians have to know-tow in front of Brown, Sarko, Berlusconi, King Juan Carlos, Angela Merckel and other "important" European Leaders. I have heard many of my compatriots whining and complaining about the American "imperialism" with respect to Brasil. IMHO, it is nothing compared with the arrogant attitude displayed by the Europeans.

Sage, if you are an European, you will excuse me for expressing my honest feelings against you guys. I was a bit surprised to read your hasty and negative comment about Mr.Severus calling him an "Anglophile", without knowing that he is a Brasilian living in NYC. You may or not know that there are plenty of Americans and Brasilians who do appreciate the English culture and literature. That doesn't mean that we have to know-tow in front of Her Majesty and ask for her guidance as how to run our respective countries.
response to augustus & joao
written by sage, November 04, 2009
guys,

thanks for both of your excellent candid responses. i meant no disrespect to augustus (my apologies). my goal (w/ all of you like minded cidadaoes) is to shape this blog into an activist forum that generates positive ideas & discussion which can be translated to furthering brasil's evolution into a truly 1st class (not 1st world) country. A country that provides equal opportunity, security, health, education & happiness to all her citizens.

for too long this blog has been used as a meaningless negative platform by the ch.c's, asp's, fab's & various semi-educated trailer park trash, grapes are sour unemployed north americans. it's time to make better use of this communications platform.

I am not european & agree w/ Joao about their insufferable arrogance, they are fundamentally dying countries. the americans are full of hubris, fundamentally mis/ill informed & dont know that they dont know. the us was a great country once upon a time. it has unfortunately lost it's way, has been hijacked by various lobby groups & the public policy debate is driven by meaningless ideology.

I am a 'new' brazilian immigrant (yes this does exist) who views brasil as the unique opportunity of the 21st century. I have done business around the world & have some bad news for the monkeys mentioned in the 2nd para above. the system in brazil does work. but to realize this, 1 1st has to invest the time in studying/understanding it & aligning with good, competent, honest professionals. yes, brazil is full of such people (not all are picaritas) - another piece of bad news for the monkeys in para 2.

is brazil perfect? no, just as no other country is. however, brazil today has reached critical mass. all it needs is continued good governance & a boost from activist citizens like us via ideas, expertise, capital, knowledge, etc. not all pols. are corrupt (another piece of bad news for the monkeys in para 2). there are many dedicated bureaucrats/technocrats working at municipio, estadual e federal level, trying to create a better brazil everyday.

brazil made some of it's biggest qualitative & quantitative developmental leaps of progression during the administrations of vargas, kubitchek, geisel & da silva. 1 has to also remember that since the debt crisis of 1982 (caused by mexico, resulting in brazil paying a steep price), brazil lost almost 20 years diverting valuable resources to pay off criminal north american/european bankster/capitalists (the same class that caused today's financial crisis). people forget that until the early 1980's brazil had an excellent public education system, off which some of you guys are products off. alot of the country's social & physical infrastructure fell into disrepair. it takes time to rebuild & build anew.

yes, many dont like lula. as a politician, 1 is damned if 1 does & damned if 1 doesnt. however, i admire him. considering his humble circumstances, he overcame all the odds. he may not have a fancy eduction, but he has a high god given iq. he is shrewd, pragmatic & does what is in brazil's best interest. he is truly proud to be brazilian & believes in our country's potential.

rather than complaining, crying & criticizing (which is easy to do), let all of us who love & believe in brazil, engage in 1 positive act (social, business, cultural, etc.) act at a personal level each day to make brazil a better place for all brazilians & all those foreigners/immigrants who consciously choose to live in brazil.

at the end of the day, a country reflects it's people. let the power of the brazilian people in all their glorious diversity & ability shine.

there will surely be alot of negative responses to this posting, but our collective objective is to not waste time responding to them, instead invest this same time doing something practical that can benefit brazil.
f**k you sage,if you put me in the catagory you did , you dont know s**t about what ive been saying
written by asp, November 04, 2009
so f**k off with your bulls**t

sell your f**king shoes bitch
Wow, sage
written by Brazuca, November 06, 2009
You're a welcome, quality addition to the comments section! smilies/smiley.gif

Over the long weekend I did a long bus trip to Foz do Iguacu and back. I couldn't help but take note of the heaving potential of the country -- the verdant fields testifying to the land's fertility; the industry as I drove past Sao Paulo; basically the knowledge of how much there was yet to be exploited.

But the character of the people could do with some improvement in some critical areas. I was exasperated by the "motel" after "motel" after "motel" I saw along the route -- more numerous than petrol stations! The institution of the family is fundamental to sustaining a successful society, and the existence of this plenitude of "motels" testifies to the reluctance of all too many men here to restrain their baser urges in the interests of a stable family environment for the raising up of the next generation.

But I'm still bullish on Brazil. People can change, and it's still very early days.
brazuca
written by sage, November 06, 2009
thanks, actually when you look at it objectively, the motel after motel after motel you see is not any different to what you observe along us & canadian highways, probably fewer on canadian highways (not because they are more chaste) but because their highway system is not very extensive or developed.
sage
written by João da Silva, November 06, 2009
when you look at it objectively, the motel after motel after motel you see is not any different to what you observe along us & canadian highways, probably fewer on canadian highways (not because they are more chaste) but because their highway system is not very extensive or developed.


Yes. We all know that Canadian Highways are quite underdeveloped and full of pot holes. But my question is: Does your country have well developed highways with "Motels" (described by Brazuca) located conveniently along them to provide high quality service to their customers?
well, aint this a bitch....
written by asp, November 06, 2009
brazuca, who thinks there is no racism in brazil, yet , the same week, a neo nazi group is jailed for attacking an afro brazilian in rio grande de sul, welcomes sage, who is trying to push his shoes , and tries to peg me in some kind of trick bag that only a f**kup could think i belong to....and has advice for any one who wants to enter the fertalizer trade...free advice is worth half the price

geez brazuca, another gringo arriving in brazil thinking brazilians are only thinking of f**king.....i got news for you, brazilians arnt f**king any more than any one else in this world, they are just more sensual than most other people in the world...and if you ask me they have a very advanced and liberal out look at how to be sensual...god bless the women for that

sage , you cant put me in a trick bag like you did and not answer to me where the f**k you are coming from...or you dont have to say anything and f**k you...
asp
written by sage, November 07, 2009
u r a s**t for brains rabies infested dog!
sage
written by João da Silva, November 07, 2009
I think ASP is very curious to know where you come from! So stop picking up a fight. Remember the old proverb "Today´s enemy is tomorrow´s ally".

ASP: I have a pretty good idea about this guy!!!! So stop fighting. smilies/wink.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/grin.gif
this is a punk bitch trying to hawk his shoes on here,joao
written by asp, November 08, 2009
"for too long this blog has been used as a meaningless negative platform by the ch.c's, asp's, fab's & various semi-educated trailer park trash, grapes are sour unemployed north americans. it's time to make better use of this communications platform. "

"I have done business around the world & have some bad news for the monkeys mentioned in the 2nd para above. the system in brazil does work. but to realize this, 1 1st has to invest the time in studying/understanding it & aligning with good, competent, honest professionals. yes, brazil is full of such people (not all are picaritas) - another piece of bad news for the monkeys in para 2. "

this punk bitch doesnt even know the f**k where i am coming from...he lumps my veiws in with ch c and forrest....nothing could be farther from the truth

i havnt bashed brazil on here at all, i am a big supporter of brazil, unless this mother f**ker thinks bashing chavez and farc is bashing brazil

you are full of s**t , sage, get your bulls**t together before you start pegging people on here...you are just a f**king new immigrant trying to hawk your mother f**king chule shoes...go suck the mop, bitch


actualy . joao, i hope you could make a profit in your fertalizer deal with sage....
written by asp, November 08, 2009
but it smells like s**t to me.....
re. asp
written by sage, November 08, 2009
joao, i agree w/ you & will adhere to your advise.

however, this fellow asp's discourse is primitive, vulgar & uncouth. judgeing from his remarks, his 'critical thought process' appears to be at about middle school level. i suspect he is also a tad homophobic, a sign that he is not into progressive tolerance. by placing him in the ch.c. 'camp' (not implying that ch.c is a bad person), i was playing a little mind game w/ him.

his response provides a window into his dark soul! in the interests of keeping this blog constructive, i have chosen to ignore him, going forward.

btw, the r & i in the bric can be lucrative markets & sources of certain technologies, but challenging places to do biz. i understand your sentiments completely.
oh yeah, this mother f**ker calls me a monkey, ranks on my education and is offended at my bad words
written by asp, November 09, 2009
awww, what the f**k is the matter? did my bad words hurt sagy?

this f**king forum is loaded with bad words!!!! mother f**kers are talking a lot of s**t on here...even this bitch sage called somebody an ass...even joao has gone off on somebody

but this mother f**ker comes out of no where , hawking his shoes and fertalizer and calls me a monkey and tries to peg me and put down my educational backgroud, and now calls me homophobic, which is ridiculas....aint that a bitch..and sais he was just trying to mind f**k me....

f**k your mind f**k games ass hole....education? college education dont mean s**t, the slime that just tanked the usa all came from the best education that money can buy....well educated doesnt mean s**t compared to life experiance and life wisdom, something ive got a lot more of than you....same with business success and true happiness...hey ass hole, you may even be more succesful in your business of shoe sales and fertalizer and more educated, but, your life couldnt come close to mine in incredible life experiances.

i wouldnt trade my life for yours for all the money and degrees in the world

hey buddy boy, yeah, good idea, just avoid me...dont f**k with me again and i wont bug your ass into the ground in here
asp
written by sage, November 10, 2009
yes, you are correct - your 'incredible life experiances' are incomparable!
however, you are still a 3rd rate punk, 'buddy boy'. 'sagy' thinks if your discourse was not so pathetic it would be hilarious.
aww sagy, what can i say .....
written by asp, November 10, 2009
to a jerk who comes off with all the exitement as a used car salesman

too bad your are such a chump , your pro brazil stances are good, your personality is bad and bland

have a good day selling fertalizer and shoes
asp
written by sage, November 11, 2009
i would gift you a pair of shoes, but cant find a size small enough. smilies/grin.gif
ok,sage, you win
written by asp, November 12, 2009
just keep making your positive posts about brazil
asp
written by sage, November 13, 2009
asp, we are both winners as we both see & believe in this country's potential, each of us contributing in ways we know best. no hard feelings! smilies/cool.gif

i applaud you for actually coming to live here in brasil vs. being an armchair general from afar.

& btw, i dont sell either shoes or fertilizer. smilies/grin.gif
thanks , sage.....
written by asp, November 13, 2009
yeah, no hard feelings, call it my 8 years in new york for having a hard edge i cant kick....

with so much brazil bashing on here, i did find your insigts and support for brazil refreshing

i look forward to hearing more of that from you ,and good luck on your endeavers down here
...
written by João da Silva, November 13, 2009
Sage/ASP: May be you both should coauthor a book titled: "How to trade insults and influence each other". I am sure Komrade ch.c will be happy to write the preface. smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/grin.gif
yeah, joao, you and maria cristina could be the proof readers....
written by asp, November 13, 2009
together in a real team effort in the same office...then , after im going to solve an old problem i have , i will invite you both over for korean churhasco...

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
asp
written by João da Silva, November 13, 2009
yeah, joao, you and maria cristina could be the proof readers....


You playing the role of cupid in my interaction with Maria Cristina, dude? smilies/wink.gif smilies/cheesy.gif

You take no prisoners, do ya? smilies/cool.gif

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