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Role Reversal: David (Goldman) versus Goliath (Brazil) PDF Print E-mail
2009 - December 2009
Written by B. Michael Rubin   
Sunday, 27 December 2009 01:45

Sean and David Goldman, son and father, finally together I doubt there is anyone, American or Brazilian, who isn't relieved to see the Goldman saga come to a conclusion. No matter where your sympathies lie, five years is long enough for any child custody case to linger in limbo.

I suspect that it was in fact the five-year battle that rocketed this matter to the media's attention, as family custody fights are not typical headline grabbers in the US media, except perhaps with Hollywood celebrities. The extensive Goldman vs. Bianchi battle eventually grew to involve such luminaries as US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and only reached a resolution through Brazil's highest court of law.

An additional media-soaked factor was the bizarre twist of fate that developed in the middle of the custody dispute, when Sean Goldman's Brazilian mother died while giving birth to Sean's half sister. Sean's mother, Bruna Bianchi, created this case by running off to Brazil on a supposed vacation with Sean and once she'd arrived, calling her American husband, David, who was back in New Jersey where they had been living, and informing him that she was divorcing him and maintaining custody of 4-year-old Sean simply by not returning to the US.

I think most observers, with the exception of Bruna's family, see Bruna as the villain in this case. What kind of woman divorces her husband over the telephone, especially when there's a child involved? Her radical behavior led the American media and David Goldman to label her actions as child abduction.

Today, both the American and Brazilian courts are in agreement with this label. Certainly, Bruna's behavior must have played a major role in the decision of the Brazil Supreme Court to return Sean five years later to his father.

If ever there was an example of what John Lennon once called "instant karma" it would have to be the sad fate of this desperate woman.

Two elements of this case strike me as worthy of further consideration: First, the five years of litigation over Sean's fate; and second, the media attention that erupted at the US Consulate in Rio when Sean was handed over to his biological father by Bruna's mother, Silvana, and Sean's stepfather, João Paulo Lins e Silva.

As far as the five-year court case is concerned, I'm not a lawyer nor am I Brazilian so I can offer no insights into the labyrinths of justice in Brazil. However, as an outside observer, I'm aghast that any case of child custody could last this long.

Okay, when the indigenous peoples of the Amazon jungle in Ecuador are organized by a charismatic local leader into filing a lawsuit against one of the world's largest oil companies, I'm prepared for litigation to lavish in the courts for years.

Perhaps I'm legally naïve, but it seems that in a child custody case, it's a flip of a coin, a 50/50 call. Either Sean was going to end up with his stepfather or his biological father.

The fact that the decision took five years and came finally with pressure from Hillary Clinton and other American politicians should be an embarrassment to the court system in Brazil and to Brazilians in general.

I have yet to meet anyone in Brazil who says they are proud of their legal system. (Disclosure: I have never personally brought a case before a Brazilian court, nor do I know any Brazilians who have spent a lot of time in the courts, either as litigants or practicing court attorneys.)

Therefore, as a mere observer, I'm forced to conclude the court system in Brazil is ineffective, at best. I recall reading that Brazil's Supreme Court receives 100,000 petitions for review each year. By contrast, the US Supreme Court receives about 10,000 petitions a year. However, the US Court, recognizing it has the ability to hear at most 100 cases, rejects the other 9,900 cases, thus hearing arguments in only 1 percent of the petitions. The other 99 percent of the cases are returned to the lower courts and those decisions stand.

I'm sure there are further circuitous avenues to be pursued in some of these cases, particularly with charged issues like abortion, but few of those avenues are ever pursued. Generally speaking, in the US, when the Supreme Court reaches either a decision or chooses not to hear the case, the lawyers advise their clients to go home and resume their lives.

How the Supreme Court in Brazil expects to hear 100,000 cases is a mystery to me. It seems to me the American common-sense approach to timely justice is not pursued in Brazil.

Besides the tremendous overload of cases, the Brazilian legal system appears to encourage appeals that extend beyond the Supreme Court. When the historic transfer took place on December 24 of Sean Goldman at the US Consulate, the Bianchi family lawyer, Sergio Tostes, made a point of saying the family was now dropping its legal challenges to Sean's custody. What legal challenges were still available to them? Shouldn't a decision by the Supreme Court be the end? From what I can gather, the appeals process in Brazil has no limits, allowing simple cases to stretch on for years and even decades.

Another recent example of the confusing Supreme Court system in Brazil occurred during a battle last month between the Court and President Lula over the protection of an Italian former guerrilla, Cesare Battisti, whose government had demanded his extradition. For reasons unknown to me, Lula opposed the extradition and granted Battisti asylum in Brazil.

The Italian government petitioned the Supreme Court in Brazil for Battisti's extradition on murder convictions from the 1970s in Italy. The Court ruled in Italy's favor. However, when the ruling was issued, it came with a caveat that since this was a case with international political elements, Lula was free to disregard the Court's decision, as the President would be in a better position to make judgments regarding international politics than the Court, which is exactly what Lula did. He disregarded the Supreme Court's grant for extradition, which was certainly no surprise. As far as I know, Battisti remains in Brazil.

Besides the endless appeals opportunities of the legal system, not to mention its ability to disregard itself, another complaint made by Brazilians about their courts is that there are political elements that allow for judges to be influenced or even bribed. For example, there was a scandal in 2008 reported by the Brazilian news magazine Veja that wiretaps had been found on the phones of some members of Congress as well as the head of the Supreme Court in Brazil.

I wonder if the political connections of Sean's stepfather played a role in the extended timeframe of this child custody case. As Mr. Lins e Silva is a powerful lawyer and a wealthy man, even if he or his lawyer wielded no political influence over the judges, the extensive duration of the custody battle seems more than coincidental.

I can't help but mention the "David vs. Goliath" nature of this case. Could the familiar theme of this weak vs. strong myth have attracted such luminaries as Hillary Clinton to the battle? Did she enter the fray, seeing herself as the protector of the little man, while remembering her own uphill battle for the US presidency against Barack Obama?

Perhaps her background as an Ivy League-trained lawyer drew her attention?

(On a cultural note, this Biblical tale is currently being played out all over the US and Brazil in movie theaters showing the Hollywood blockbuster, Avatar.)

Sean Goldman had been living in Brazil for several years, and the economic upper hand of Mr. Lins e Silva was there to protect him. However, as in the Biblical tale, the underdog David was victorious, as David Goldman, fighting from outside the country, as well as with less financial resources, triumphed.

What's even more interesting to me in this case is that for once Brazil was playing with the stacked deck and the US was the underdog. Could this role reversal be a sign of the changing world climate that is unfolding for Brazil's future in the 21st century? Is this reversal a coincidence, or a symbol of America's waning power and Brazil's rise from Third World status to what one writer, Parag Khanna, calls "The Second World" in the new global order?

II

The other striking aspect of this case, from an American perspective, was the release of Sean Goldman in Rio. David Goldman and his lawyer had requested the long-awaited transfer be done quietly, and apparently their request could have been accommodated by the US Consulate. However, the Bianchi family chose instead to release Sean at the front door of the Consulate in full view of the media. The transfer was thus described by the American media as a "parade through the streets of Rio." American viewers were appalled by the needless display of Sean's terrified image all over the TV news.

I would like to interject here that the US media was equally as guilty as the Brazilian media for creating this circus. For example, when the Goldmans flew back to the US from Rio, their private plane was chartered by NBC. (This is not an expense typically afforded by a TV station. I'm thinking exclusive Goldman TV interview followed by a book deal.)

What could not be understood by Americans was the cultural chasm that lies between the two views of publicity. Here's how I see it: No one objects when people celebrate publicly. For example, Americans hold parades for the NY Yankees when they win the World Series. Brazilians love to celebrate their joys, but they also celebrate their suffering.

In other words, Americans consider it rude to exhibit or project their heartache onto others. Grief for Americans is private and personal. Brazilians, on the other hand, express all their emotions publicly to anyone who will listen. Brazilians want to share their grief, and this explains the decision by the Bianchi family to welcome the Rio Consulate media circus.

III

In conclusion, it is worth remembering that court testimony in the Goldman case is confidential, as it is in all divorce and family custody cases in Brazil. Therefore, we presume the Supreme Court knows more than we do about the fitness of the two families and has acted to resolve this case in the only way that anyone could possibly hope, i.e. what is in the best interest of Sean Goldman.

Not having read the testimony and therefore knowing nothing about the home life that awaits Sean in New Jersey or the home he left behind in Brazil, it's impossible for me (or anyone reading this) to make an accurate assessment of the situation. How are Sean's best interests served?

To play devil's advocate for a moment with the Court, there are plenty of biological parents who aren't the world's best parents. (We might pass that judgment on Bruna Bianchi.)

Additionally, having lived for several years in Brazil, I'm personally not convinced that under all circumstances, the US is a better place to raise children than Brazil. There is certainly more crime in Brazil, particularly in Rio, but Sean wasn't being raised in a favela. Social life, organized religion, and the extended family structure are stronger in Brazil than the US, as an example.

The common argument that the First World (US) is a better place to raise children than the Third World (Brazil) reminds me of another David vs. Goliath case of child custody that occurred while Hillary Clinton was serving the White House, this time as First Lady.

Elián González washed ashore in a boatload of Cubans seeking refuge on the shores of Florida in November 1999. During their flight to the US, Elián's mother died. When Elián arrived, he was turned over to his Cuban-American relatives in Florida who petitioned the courts to have him stay in the US, despite the protests of Elián's father who remained in Cuba, claiming he had no idea his son was leaving until after Elián had left.

The Florida relatives offered the father a house and a car if he too would come to live in the US and save Elián's lost Cuban soul. The father refused the offer, and instead sent Elián's two grandmothers to the US from Cuba in 2000 to meet with congressmen in Washington and petition for Elián's return.

Subsequently, conservative Republicans tried to pass a bill giving Elián instant US citizenship. As with the Goldman case, in the end, David defeated Goliath, and Elián was returned to his biological father in Cuba.

By the way, the final decision in the González case was handed down by the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals in Atlanta. The US Supreme Court refused to hear the case, and the Atlanta decision stood.

Finally, in the Goldman case, the court system in Brazil has spoken, and the wealthier party has lost, proving that the stepfather's power, the Bianchi family's tenacity, and Bruna's biological ties were not enough to warrant separating the boy from his father.

The one person who is most intimately involved with this case but has never spoken is Sean Goldman. Perhaps in ten years he will be able to offer some 20/20 hindsight into his plight.

For me, as in all circumstances requiring predictions of the future, there is no way to tell if the courts were right.

Michael Rubin is an American living in Curitiba, Brazil. He can be contacted at rubin.brazil@gmail.com.



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Flawed logic about media
written by Eliza, December 27, 2009
Your take on the US media causing part of the consulate fiasco isn't very logical. Absolutely, there's a media element given NBC's presence with the plane, but that's not what Americans are outraged about. We're blown away that ANY guardian of a child who is about to hand that child over after a bitter custody dispute would choose to make that poor kid wade through a loud, shoving, intrusive group of paparazzi.

I'm fine with the Brazilian family expressing their grief as much as they like, but my blood boiled to see that child being subjected to such a frightening situation. The Brazilian family were given the option to drive directly into the consulate garage, but instead they CHOSE to let that boy get frightened out of his wits just prior to an emotionally volatile meeting.

And the worst bit? Tostes the lawyer admits that it was done as a protest because David wouldn't let the grandmother fly back to the US with them. Who does that?! Who traumatizes a child to settle a score with his father? And what on earth was the Brazilian family thinking -- did they think for a minute what David's reaction would be? I mean, I'm pretty sure they knew he'd be beside himself with worry, but don't they get that if they sue for visitation with Sean, all David has to do is submit that footage and affidavits from the consulate that the Brazilians rejected both private arrangements AND a police escort, and the judge will immediately consider the Brazilian family as questionably motivated at best? It just seems like a stupid, stupid move.

Are Brazilians not just accustomed to sharing their grief, but also accustomed to harming a child in their care for the sake of theatre? Sean should have been foremost in their minds; David's arrangements with media, of a private flight and time secluded away-from-NJ adjustment seem to be designed to make life easier for Sean. He's got one media outlet who know where he is, and looks like he's going to give one wrap-up interview to NBC and then be done. The scene at the consulate benefited only the Brazilian adults, and actively damaged Sean. No cultural difference can forgive that.
Please....
written by Traumatized Sean, December 27, 2009
Are Brazilians not just accustomed to sharing their grief, but also accustomed to harming a child in their care for the sake of theatre?


This from the people who invented "Little Miss" competitions and the celebrity divorce?

Please.... smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by Allan MacInnis, December 27, 2009
The boy may have been better off staying in Brazil... maybe, maybe not. That isn't the point.... YOU CAN'T HAVE SOMEONES KID.... I can't go to Africa and grap some 4th kid from a mother with aids and call it yours on the grounds the kid would be better off (even though you'd surely be right).... You just can't do that.

Glad to see justice prevail.
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written by Father, December 27, 2009
Good article but strange conclusions at the end. Media circuis, NBC, private jet, book deal etc etc - all this is irrelevant. The only thing that matter is the father and the son who love each other forever and ever. They are together and will always be together. Sean spend 4.5 years with his dad every day and every hour of his life. Nobody can break this bond. As a father I feel what David feels. My kids are the only thing in the world that matters. If I don't have my kids I don't have reason to live. I think any father understands this.
Same Old Story...
written by Same Old Story, December 27, 2009
"Finally, in the Goldman case, the court system in Brazil has spoken, and the wealthier party has lost, proving that the stepfather's power, the Bianchi family's tenacity, and Bruna's biological ties were not enough to warrant separating the boy from his father."

I too would like to believe that the courts were actually doing what was right, rather than what was best for the richest party. However, even if the mother had survived, Brazil was required under the Hague Convention to send Sean back (within six weeks) for a custody hearing in NJ. The Brazilian courts never once considered honoring this agreement while the mother was alive.

In addition, it seems that the Supreme Court ruled quickly only after the US put a trade deal worth over 2 billion dollars to Brazil on hold. Despite a crystal-clear international agreement that favored David Goldman's position on all of the issues (and at all time points since the mother brought Sean to Brazil), the Brazilian courts only started moving quickly on the case once the stepfather was no longer the largest factor (in terms of money) in the case. I would hope that the publicity around this case serves as a catalyst for change in the way Brazilian courts handle international custody disputes.
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written by Gringo21, December 27, 2009
"I think most observers, with the exception of Bruna's family, see Bruna as the villain in this case."

Yes, and NO. I think there is a bigger selfish hag in the room, and that became more and more apparent the more desperate she began. Cruela da Vil AKA Bruna's mother has been manipulating this from the very beginning, and if she did not sway Bruna's illegal actions from the get go, then she certainly supported them which is equally manipulative and criminal. Every time I saw this VACA open her mouth on TV I was enraged. She's obviously never been told "NO" in her life, has no regard for those around her and her desperate (and bizarre) attempts at inventing stories (my how she tried to assas.sinate David's character)and manipulating the media in Brazil showed her for who she was. At the beginning of this case many Brazilians were supportive, but as she appeared on TV more, even the nationalists started to question her sincerity. Now most Brazilians, and all Americans consider her little more than a manipulative hag who never had Sean's intentions at heart and was only filling some narcissistic and selfish void left by Bruna's death. To hell with her.
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written by Dad, December 27, 2009
And the worst bit? Tostes the lawyer admits that it was done as a protest because David wouldn't let the grandmother fly back to the US with them. Who does that?! Who traumatizes a child to settle a score with his father?


Unfortunately, I've seen this behavior all too often from Brazilian mothers. I realize that it happens all over the world, but I've seen it with frequency from mothers here in Brazil.

My ex-wife, who is brazilian, and mother of my 8 year old daughter, didn't allow my daughter to buy a christmas present for me during the last week because we're not on the best of terms of late. The hurt in my daughters eyes when she opened all her presents from me at my house and also from Santa saying, "I'm sorry daddy I don't have a present for you, but my mommy wouldn't buy one."

It nearly brought me to tears. But this isn't the first time that she's used an innocent child, her own daughter, as a pawn to try and inflict pain on me. Sometimes it's difficult to imagine what goes through some people's minds.
SOS
written by Dad, December 27, 2009
I too would like to believe that the courts were actually doing what was right, rather than what was best for the richest party. However, even if the mother had survived, Brazil was required under the Hague Convention to send Sean back (within six weeks) for a custody hearing in NJ. The Brazilian courts never once considered honoring this agreement while the mother was alive.


You're right S.O.S. And anyone that has any knowledge about this case is aware that Brazil would have NEVER honored it's international obligations if this brazilian mother didn't die. As John Lennon was quoted...."instant karma".
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written by Gringo21, December 27, 2009
@Dad. that's a very disturbing story, but sadly endemic in Brazil.

These CLOSE FAMILY TIES the author discusses do exist (I personally think they are unhealthy and when I see 40 year old men calling their mothers MOMMY e MAMAE, and talking with them like they are 7 - I cringed!!!!!) But what is equally true, is that when those ties are severed (for whatever reason), a pettiness and vengefulness sets in that is borderline psychopathic. Grudges are held forever, and it seems that at the very first sight of a marital problem, mother-in-laws jump in and start manipulating. And never with decent advice. It's always "screw him and take everything". At least when gringos are involved. Brazilian men usually have little to take, it's all in their mother's name.

I have a friend whose wife has a seriously twisted relationship with her mother, after 40 years she's still not managed to cut the umbilical cord, and like you, whenever there is a stressful phase in his relationship the mother in law appears in a puff of smoke like Samantha's mother in Bewitched. Sometimes she arrives fanning the flames making matters worse, but usually she arrives with plane tickets to whisk her daughter away to Miami for a shopping spry (and some brainwashing). So far nothing too traumatic has happened in their relationship - he's one of the most zen guys I know, and far too patient for my books but... -, but as he jests to everyone, his wife could knife him in his sleep, call her mother, who would simply reply in matter of fact tone: "that's a good girl, do you need help disposing of the body?"

Cruela da Vil fits this discription.
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written by Dad, December 27, 2009
I have a friend whose wife has a seriously twisted relationship with her mother, after 40 years she's still not managed to cut the umbilical cord



My brazilian ex, who is 40 years old coincidentally, sleeps at her mothers house, in her mothers bed with her mother when her father travels. And she claims this is "normal" here in Brazil.
3 points to the article
written by susan10023, December 27, 2009
The article seems good with the exception of three points: the travesty of marching the child through the streets; the plane home; and, the Elián González travesty.

Many cultures and peoples display grief in public – that’s not a problem. Deliberately and willfully marching a child through a mob of people, whether in support, not in support or just there for the spectacle, is obscene and tantamount to child abuse. I say this because they actually refused the offer to take the child in through a quiet and safe (emotionally and physically) entrance. At best, this action displayed immaturity and selfishness to the extreme on the Brazilian family’s part.

The point of the NBC plane home: If it turns out that David Goldman turned down a private plane offer from a private party (not media), then It might be of concern as it would be an indication that he would provide too much media access to Sean. However, if this was his only alternative to a commercial flight (expensive, public and not as convenient by allowing them to leave immediately), then I don’t see much problem. The NBC outlets have provided coverage which assisted David in re-gaining his son – why not allow them the opportunity to provide the wrap-up during which I hope Sean is not made to provide an interview.

Finally, the Elián González case: Yes, the Elián González relatives in the US were as selfish as Sean’s Brazilian relatives and were obstructing the law as were the Brazilians. However, the case was brought to an end within seven months – not five years.

There are two points on which I wonder concerning Silvana Bianchi. First, she claims devastation as a grandmother. I could believe this if it were not so hypocritical. I believe it reasonable to find that she was a big part in fighting to keep the child away from his father (all contact from what I’ve read including phone calls) during the last five years and especially in the last 18 months since her daughter died. The hypocrisy is in the fact that she also kept Sean from two of his grandparents – the Goldmans. My understanding is that they even traveled down to Brazil to see him and were denied. Did she even provide photographs to her fellow grandparents of the five years they were denied access? The second point is in saying that in Brazil if the mother dies, the grandmother then raises the children. Will she be filing a court case to take custody of her granddaughter away from here biological father, João Paulo Lins e Silva?
Master manipulator
written by Jiana, December 27, 2009
This woman was the master mind of this whole ordeal. She first sets up her daughter with an old friend's son who recently divorced. They met a few times when Bruna was in Brazil for holidays. The mother continues to remind her daughter she's a slave in NJ, working as a teacher, that in Brazil she would have everything and this man was rich! She could have that design business she's always wanted. So they packed in June 2004, knowing fully well they would not return. This man and his father are lawyers who specializes in these types of cases, so they manipulated everything from the beginning. David vs. Goliath since day one. But justice prevails - only after David gained momentum from NBC that spread the story worldwide. The government got involved finally after all the pressure Americans put on their representatives to act. If Brazil would have done the right thing from the beginning, this would have been a settled case and the child could have split his time between US and Brazil and just maybe they would not have lost their daughter. It was said that Bruna did not want to get pregnant until she was married. If they had done everything by law, she would have gotten a divorce quicker in NJ and shared custody with her husband. She would have been able to have another child much earlier than last year and just maybe would not have suffered complications. It's too bad that in the end, everyone suffered but there is hope yet for David Goldman and Sean to live a normal life. I hope David uses this experience to be the spokesman - the Ambassador if the bill passes - for the cause to bring home more children.
For the Children
written by david scott, December 27, 2009
Thank you for this Article. Fathers’ right to be a meaningful part of their childrens’ lives, have been eroded to the point of non-existence. My research suggests that this is a phenomenon consistent throughout the industrialized nations. Children who are alienated from their fathers are more likely later in life to have emotional/behavioral problems, suffer from depression, drop out of school, fail in their jobs, and suffer from other social problems. I invite you to visit my site devoted to raising awareness on this growing problem: http://fathersprivilege.blogspot.com/

HAHAHA
written by ..., December 27, 2009
My brazilian ex, who is 40 years old coincidentally, sleeps at her mothers house, in her mothers bed with her mother when her father travels. And she claims this is "normal" here in Brazil.


Yes, right.. Now an idiot American believes that incest is normal in Brazil just because he picks lunatics for partner...

I believe shootings in American colleges by kids killing their own classmates and teachers is normal in America too

Be real idiot

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written by Gringo21, December 27, 2009
@... I didn't read anything in their about incest. Project much?
This is but one case !!
written by Forrest Allen Brown, December 27, 2009

The one every one was forced to watch as that was what the press had you
focus on .

Think about the hundred's if not a thousands of parents and children caught up in
some what of the same game as David and his son .
It should not matter if it was a son and a father the same would be the same if it was a father and his daughter it is his child .

But think of all the other men women and there kids, stuck here in a country not of there orign being held by ex spouses by not being able to leave with there kids and then the possibility of never seeing them again.

All countries should have to answer this problem with laws enforced to help out the kids and the left out spouse no matter whom it is from rich to very poor.

enough of the calling of names the use of false or misguided info
every country and its people has it's faults some worse than others.

We as adults should put more time into our governments and there actions to see this never happens again
David's Character
written by Constance, December 27, 2009
How do we know what went on in the marriage that caused Bruna to run off with Sean in the first place? Most mothers do not tear their children away from their father without a good reason. She isn't hear to tell her side of the story.
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written by Andrade, December 27, 2009
I compliment Mike Rubin for writing an impartial and in depth article on the agonizing episode of Mr.Goldstein and his son. He has described the twisted justice faced by good men not only in Brasil, but all over the "pseudo-civilized" in this so called "Western" society.The justice system always favors the women in the custody battles and I am aware that U.S. is no exception.

However, I am amused to read the comments of some of the spineless cry baby gringos here who are just exchanging their miserable and humiliating experiences at the hands of their ex-wives and ex mothers-in-law. Since all of you are complaining about the "lawlessness" in Brasil, you could take advantage of the situation and implement following measures (in sequence):

1)Warn the old hag not to interfere in your marriage 2) If she pays no heed, horsewhip her 3)No result? Shoot her.

The problem with you all is that you love to complain about Brasil and your Brasilian mothers-in-law but cant come out with any creative solutions. A bunch of whiners.
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written by Dad, December 27, 2009
Yes, right.. Now an idiot American believes that incest is normal in Brazil just because he picks lunatics for partner...

I believe shootings in American colleges by kids killing their own classmates and teachers is normal in America too

Be real idiot



No, it's not an idiot american that believes this, quite the contrary, it's NUMEROUS brazilians in the northeast of Brazil. Where, unfortunately, the illiteracy rate ranks up there with the worst on the planet.
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written by Gringo21, December 27, 2009
@Constance. Nothing at all has indicated that David was anything but a decent husband and good father. The HAG and her family on the other hand (surrounded by momma's boys and Brasilieros mimados) highlighted their narcissistic, corrupt and manipulative tendencies daily. Occam's RAZOR: apply it once and a while.

@Andrade, you another momma's boy? By the way, you may wish to look up the term hypocrisy before you post next time. For someone who claims to hate "whiners", you do a pretty good job whining yourself. But that's what Brazilian momma's boys do; in the end, I suppose you'll get MOMMY to bail you out of the pickle you've created. Because that's just what happens in Brazil.
And...
written by Dad, December 27, 2009
no one said anything about incest. But it's obvious where your mind is at! I said that my ex "SLEEPS" with her mother, not f**kS!

My friend, you are SICK.
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written by Gringo21, December 27, 2009
No worries Dad, everyone with any intelligence knew exactly what you wrote, but apparently there are some Brasilieros mimados here with serious comprehension problems or WORSE. But if you have been in Brazil over 9 years, that will not surprise you.
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written by Andrade, December 27, 2009
@Gringo1,21,31,15,19 et all.

you another momma's boy?


No, you must be one, though. One could make out you lack adequate reading skill. I didn't whine, but gave a viable solution and you are unable to analyze the options available. Must be the tropical sun melting your brain.

Now go back and continue complaining about your ex-wife who didn't allow your daughter to buy you a Christmas gift.
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written by Gringo21, December 27, 2009
Sorry Charlie, "cry baby" and "whiner" are pretty much synonymous; and while we're at it, I don't have an ex wife and never mentioned an ex wife, that was DAD. Whose reading skills are in question? I don't see you disputing the fact that you're a little spoilt sissy mommas boy, that leads me to think I struck a nerve.
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written by Gringo21, December 27, 2009
As for @Gringo1,21,31,15,19 et all. You can accredit the well adjusted and mature Brazilians on this site.
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written by Andrade, December 27, 2009
@Gringo 21

Sorry Charlie, "cry baby" and "whiner" are pretty much synonymous;


No need to apologize Gringo for correcting me, though I must tell you that two synonymous terms are used to stress a point. However, being a "Gringo", you must be an expert in the English language which is not my first language.

while we're at it, I don't have an ex wife and never mentioned an ex wife, that was DAD.


Now it is my turn to apologize for confusing you with DAD. It just reinforces my point that the "Gringo" commentators are a bunch of whiners. If I were "DAD", I would have anticipated the move of that despicable ex-wife and bought a nice gift for myself and when the daughter cried, I would have told her to give it as her gift to me.Lacked creative thinking on his part. But there again, not many are willing to acknowledge their shortcomings and you seem to be one of them. It doesn't bother me a bit if you don't take my friendly advice.

As for your statement that you don't have an ex-wife, I reckon you have one right now. I am not really a "little spoilt sissy mommas boy" as you claim, but you seem to be content in hiding under the skirt of your Mom-in-Law and say "Sim,Senhora", every time she orders you to fix breakfast,lunch or dinner for her! You obviously resent her, otherwise you wouldn't be calling Silvana Bianchi all sorts of names (which, I must confess, describe the old bag in eloquent terms) smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by Gringo21, December 27, 2009
Sorry Charlie, I hide under no one's skirt, I call em like I see em, and NOOOOOO I'm not married to a Brazilian. NO NO NO, nao, NAO... de jeito nenhum. I'm not that dumb. Brasilieras are fine for a weekend, or 20 minutes, but they should come with warning labels for those who wish to spend any more time with them. Marrying one? ARE YOU INSANE MAN? No, that will never happen, I don't want a "mimada" little kid with the attention span of a ferret, the intelligence of vira lata, and the whine of a jet screaming into Congonhas. If I did, I'd adopt a kid; at least with a kid you know he will eventually grow up. I've seen too many gringos suffer chasing after that mirage.

And why should DAD anticipate the moves of a vengeful ex? Is THAT how all gringos are suppose to live in Brazil, thinking two steps ahead of mind games? Speaks well of your nation mate, another reason I'll never marry a Brasileira.

My bet is you're in your forties and still living at home. We struck a nerve talking about the Cruela da Vil, and you just had to defend MOMMY. Mommy's making your super for you now, run along.
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written by Andrade, December 28, 2009
My bet is you're in your forties and still living at home.


You lost your bet, old chap (or is it "mate") or both? There was this fine American blogger trying to discover your nationality, but you were doing such "Cú Doce" that he gave up. Keep talking mate. You are a great blogger that brings in nothing but sunshine to this site. smilies/cheesy.gif

BTW, when you adopt a kid, make sure that it is done legally. May be your friend Silvana Bianchi would be happy to give you some legal and spiritual guidance in this aspect. smilies/wink.gif
Why do people say the boy loves his father?
written by mitch, December 28, 2009
They don´t know each other.... so should we assume that love can exist without intimacy?

Should we be concerned that the father took 150k from the boys grandparents?

Personally, this case should have been resolved years ago purely on the basis of international law, one very lucky boy should not be able to damage the chances of less fortunate children being reunited with parents.

I presume that religion is not an issue here. The boy will have the religion of his mother.

Can the father keep him in the style he has become accustomed to in Brazil?

It really isn´t so long before the boy can make his own decisions.... maybe it will be interesting (or not) to see what life decisions he makes after 18.
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written by Ronaldo Ferreira Lobo, December 28, 2009
Most mothers do not tear their children away from their father without a good reason.

Constance, I am sure you and I would disagree, but I guess one's opinion on this matter would depend on where one get's there sense of right and wrong. But in my thinking, unless there is physical or extreme mental and emotional abuse (and there is no indication this happened), there is never a GOOD REASON to kidnap a child and run off to another man. And if there was a good reason (which again has not been indicated) to run off with the child, it normally works out better if one does not immediately get involved with another man until such issues as child custody have been worked out legally.

So, you can defend Bruna (karma's a bitch) anyway you like, but it doesn't hold water.
The 150k hypothesis
written by Eliza, December 28, 2009
"Should we be concerned that the father took 150k from the boys grandparents?"

Your phrasing could do with some work. The 150k was a settlement proposed by the Bianchi family to take their names off of a civil damages case David was pursuing in the US courts -- specifically, the damage done by the Bianchis and Bruna in kidnapping his son. During the assessment portion of the damages ruling, David accepted the 150k to take ONLY the grandparents off the suit. It unfroze real estate holdings for them, and though David's said he didn't want to settle a number of times, the fact was that he was trying to fund numerous court cases in two countries and if the Bianchis appealed or delayed the damages payment (which would have been MUCH higher than 150k), it would have been hugely expensive. So he just settled that specific, non-custody-related case. The costs of his legal fight, on the other hand, is approximated at 350k.

Basically, the grandparents offered 150k now so they wouldn't be court-ordered to pay much, much more later. And David took that deal because he is not a millionaire and getting a big payday wasn't the point. Getting his son was.
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written by Dad, December 28, 2009
Why do people say the boy loves his father?
written by mitch, December 27, 2009

Can the father keep him in the style he has become accustomed to in Brazil?



I seriously doubt that the environment in Rio de Janeiro can be duplicated in the U.S. Nor anyone would want it to be. Rio de Janeiro is one of the most dangerous cities on the planet. And even the rich that live in their mansions behind 12 foot concrete walls with electric and razor sharded fences, build themselves self-imposed prisons so that can stay "protected" all the while the FARC supported druggies descend from their morros to invade beaches and shut down entire parts of the city any time they please, shoot down police helicopters and burn people alive in city squares......no Mitch, you're right, I don't think that David will be able to keep Sean "in the style he has become accustomed to" as in Rio.....and thank the good lord.

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written by Dad, December 28, 2009
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written by Andrade, December 27, 2009

Now it is my turn to apologize for confusing you with DAD. It just reinforces my point that the "Gringo" commentators are a bunch of whiners. If I were "DAD", I would have anticipated the move of that despicable ex-wife and bought a nice gift for myself and when the daughter cried, I would have told her to give it as her gift to me.Lacked creative thinking on his part.


Andrade;

Did I lack "creative thinking" or was it simply a matter that I honestly lack the ability to be cruel to my child, to use her as a pawn in a game where I will do anything to exact my "pound of flesh". I'm sorry, but it is unbelievable the number of times that I have seen brazilian women use their children. That is not called LOVE. The "love" that I have seen demonstrated here in Brazil in many cases is a "selfish love", it's not unconditional.

gringo21
written by Forrest Allen Brown, December 28, 2009
I have been married to a Brasilian woman for over 7 years now and none of the time has she ever done any thing out of the norm.

I would think you were looking in the rong place to find your angle!

lets put this one to bed people .

there is bad and good every where you live and work most of it stems from misimformation , national pride and just plain being an (.) about things
yo , gringo 21
written by asp, December 28, 2009
"Sorry Charlie, I hide under no one's skirt, I call em like I see em, and NOOOOOO I'm not married to a Brazilian. NO NO NO, nao, NAO... de jeito nenhum. I'm not that dumb. Brasilieras are fine for a weekend, or 20 minutes, but they should come with warning labels for those who wish to spend any more time with them. Marrying one? ARE YOU INSANE MAN? No, that will never happen, I don't want a "mimada" little kid with the attention span of a ferret, the intelligence of vira lata, and the whine of a jet screaming into Congonhas "

that is some of the biggest peice of a turd coming out of your mouth that you have posted....

could you be any more full of s**t than that ?

are you vying for punk bitch of the month ?
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written by Andrade, December 28, 2009
Did I lack "creative thinking" or was it simply a matter that I honestly lack the ability to be cruel to my child, to use her as a pawn in a game where I will do anything to exact my "pound of flesh". I'm sorry, but it is unbelievable the number of times that I have seen brazilian women use their children.


Listen Dad, I didn't mean that you should be cruel to your poor little child when I said you lack creative thinking. I suggested you use your brain to develop some countermeasures against the cunning ex-wife of yours. It is so obvious that that wretched female has declared you as her personal enemy and therefore you should mobilize all the branches of the Brasilian government. The objective is to fight her till the end without giving any "Trégua". In order to accomplish your mission, you need to study the strategy and tactics deployed by Mr.Goldstein and Mrs.Bianchi who allied themselves with NBC and Rede Globo respectively. So maybe CBS or ABC might join TV Band or Rede Record to promote your cause.

Now do you understand what "Creative Thinking" means?
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written by Gringo21, December 28, 2009
turd out of my mouth? You mean OBSERVATIONS FLOWING FROM MY KEYBOARD? Oh piss of ASP you come across as some old codger in his 60s banging his cane on the floor because the younger tenants below have fun guests. You've become renown for posting trite and nonsensical rants, and this last little ditty of yours didn't disappoint. Toss off.

@Andrade, if it's too hot here for you, there are plenty of other sites you can go to flaunt your wit. /s
Gringo 21
written by Andrade, December 28, 2009
@Andrade, if it's too hot here for you, there are plenty of other sites you can go to flaunt your wit. /s


No, mate. I prefer to stick to this site and continue giving my unwavering support to a forsaken American Dad lost in the "Sertão Nordestino".I feel sorry for the poor sod.So should you.In case you observed, there are already two American bloggers joining his cause.

BTW, you sound like a snobbish Toff.

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written by NTL, December 28, 2009
Silvana Bianchi acts as if these little children are hers! They are NOT. She whines about how horrible it is that her Sean (Grandson) was taken from her....uh....Silvana, you pathetic individual, how do you think David Goldman felt????? It blows my mind that she thought she had ANY right to a child she didn't bring into this world. Bruna's life was taken from her while giving birth....I'm not surprised by it....karma.
Absoutely hilarious!!!!!!!!!
written by vocetrouxa, December 28, 2009
Funny comments:
"My ex-wife, who is brazilian, and mother of my 8 year old daughter, didn't allow my daughter to buy a christmas present for me during the last week"

Many of you want to get married to a brazilian woman thinking that she is going to be f**ked by you so you can tell your friends that you are f**kING BRAZILIAN WHORE.. ah ah ah ah ah.

AT THE END OF THE DAY she is f**king you. Never play with brazilian women she will always f**k you.

Another hilarious comment:
"Brasilieras are fine for a weekend, or 20 minutes, but they should come with warning labels for those who wish to spend any more time with them".

In fact they are really good for just a short period of time, yes indeed, but I would recommend to have your blood tested after 3 months because this are the ones who infected you with HIV/AIDS.
If you think you are f**king a bitch brazilian she is f**king you instead.
ah ah ah ah
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written by .., December 28, 2009
I would think you were looking in the rong place to find your angle!


Maybe he hasn't studied basic trigonometry. smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by BnD, December 28, 2009
In 10 years, when Sean can make his own decisions, I think he will see he is much better off here living a normal life, than living in Brazilian as a rich person. In Brazil, the rich live their lives behind locked doors and high walls because they oppress the poor. He could never walk around free like he can here. And if he misses Brazil, he can visit with all the Brazilians who fled here to escape the oppression from the rich.
oh , i see you are a punk bitch, gringo 12
written by asp, December 28, 2009
"trite ditsey..." that sure describes your statement about brazilian women....

people like you dont know s**t about brazilian women...

brazilian women are incredible....they have my deepest respects, for sensuality, talent , guts to fight for what they want...

for sports,for cooking, for dance, the passistas in their costumes dancing samba are the highest leval you could want in any dance, for culture etc...and just general charm in daily profesional life

you sound like you dont know dick s**t about life....like you are one boring mother f**ker...

im so glad i know brazilian women in all kinds of situations , longer than 20 minutes or a short time...ive worked with them, played with them, gone through ups and downs with them....

i prefer brazilian women to any other women on the planet...

why dont you just f**k off
ASP
written by Wow, December 28, 2009
"brazilian women are incredible....they have my deepest respects, for sensuality, talent , guts to fight for what they want..".

And why do you think they are like that, because they have to be; if it wasn't for all the fakeness they'd be nowhere in life & when they do it'd w/the foreigners not with their own.
Why do you think they lien up for foreign men, because of their looks?
Grow up ASP, you can't even see your own brainwashing, you been drinking from the throttle for too long.
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written by Wow, December 28, 2009
Gringo21 is right, Kudos to him that he is smart & doesn't allow himself to get caught in all the fakedness.
WHO DOES THIS KIND OF STUFF?
written by Cameraelle, December 28, 2009
The actions of the brazilian family is reprehensible! Why parade the child? What good comes out of doing so, nothing. What it does is show the world they were grandstanding to their own benefit and not the benefit of the child.
It reminds me of a personal experience watching in my own family an act as reprehensible: when my ex sister in law delivers the children to their father they are dressed in rags, their shoes too tight and without sweaters. Here is a woman who
is trying to hurt her ex husband by trying to hurt him through his children. Does she hurt him? Yes, but she also hurts her own children. They are presently 8 and 6 and now protest their mother's strange behavior. Might I ad she is mentally ill and
possibly the reason she does the things she does. Has anyone even question that
maybe Lins E Silva is a little unstable? He seems unstable to do the things he has done. Well he lost his wife in childbirth and now fighting for another man's son and it seems that he was fighting for a cause not to care for Sean Goldman.
Does he even love the boy to bring him through such fiasco? Well actions speak louder than words! NO LOVING PARENT would put a child through such an ordeal.
I am glad that Sean Goldman was returned to David Goldman and fully recognize it was the right thing to do. He belongs to the person who loves him and not to a STEP FATHER who would parade him through the streets of Brazil.
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written by Andrade, December 28, 2009
Gringo21 is right, Kudos to him that he is smart & doesn't allow himself to get caught in all the fakedness.


Since "WOW" thinks that Gringo21 is very smart, perhaps G21 will be kind enough to explain to us the meaning of "fakedness"?

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written by Andrade, December 28, 2009
Maybe he hasn't studied basic trigonometry.


He hasn't studied the "Kama Sutra" either. smilies/grin.gif
Rio
written by mitch, December 28, 2009
There is no doubt that the rate of crime in Rio is high, but the life for a boy growing up with an upper middle class family would not be touched by that violence and instead he would have opportunities for a quality of life few American cities could offer.

With money, he would probably get a better education in USA.
150k
written by mitch, December 28, 2009
taking the money was clearly a mistake....

international law was imposed and this should be reassuring for parents in a similar position.

perhaps the family thought they could force the braziian judiciary to give them custody.

unless the father was shown to present a danger to the boy then i believe that the father should not have been responsible for the legal costs.
mothers
written by mitch, December 28, 2009
the idea that brazilian mothers treat their children less well than those of any other country reflects only the ignorence of the commentator.
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written by Wow, December 29, 2009
Definition of Fakedness-

fastness
fixedness

Better for me to wrong the Law than for the Law to wrong me
written by Forrest Allen Brown, December 29, 2009
is what the Rich do in any country .

what the people should do is demand better rule of law from there

politicans and police .

But as long as there is money invloved you will find a bottom feeding laywer to do any thing .

Has any one of you ever though how much money it takes to fight for your rights in a brazilian court if you are a gringo !!!

even your own laywer will triple there fees to you as they will be hard pressed to get another case as the rich laywer will have them punished.along with the family


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written by Gringo21, December 29, 2009
Oh ASP take your self-loathing "i prefer brazilian women to any other women on the planet... " and toss off. We all know your story, it's typical in Brazil. Loser in US has hard time getting even the subway sandwich girl to smile at him, so defeated and unwanted, he cashes in his miserable 401k and heads for Brazil where 20 year old "maria passaportes" all think he's the "bee's knees" because he can tip over the obligatory 10% when buying a skol at the local watering hole. Mr over weight and underachieved in the US, in Brazil finds himself, Mr. Smack-daddy with the favaldas in RIO. Friday nights he hires a harem, send photos back to his mates in the miserable US telling them all he's such a PLAYA......he's in heaven. No worries, whatever floats your boat. But leave your sermons and your mightier than thou platitudes for other ignorant gringos, not ones in the know such as yours truly.

Since "WOW" thinks that Gringo21 is very smart, perhaps G21 will be kind enough to explain to us the meaning of "fakedness"?


I think you like me.....
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written by Tel, December 29, 2009
I like your input. I am a Brazilian living in the US for over 16 years (I have dual citizenship). My husband is American. Our 8 year old son was born in the US, but has dual citizenship as well. There was a time that our marriage was not going so well and at that time I told my mom, who lives in Brazil, that I would never go back to Brazil and take my son away from his father. If we were to divorce, I would stay here for them to keep their relationship. What I think it could have happened, is that Bruna was used to the real good life style in Brazil. Contrary to what many say here, if you have money in Brazil, life is great! You have employees to clean your house, gardners, cooks, nannies. Excellent and healthy food! Anyway, I think bruna could not deal to the US reality, no maids, not homemade dinner on your table etc etc. She ran back to Brazil to be with her parents until she found a rich husband. I do not want to be mean. That is what I THINK happenned.
I am glad Sean is back. I hope David can afford private schools for him. Sean was probably going to an excellent school in Rio. This would be my only concern: school environment. Besides this, I think the grandmother needs to be happy for Sean. Hopefuuly, Sean and David can bond again and after that all of them can get along. Give David some time, and if he is as good dad as my husband is, the boy, will not want to go back to Brazil again. Brazilians raise their kids to be emotionally dependent on them, I used to see it as positive, now I don't think anymore. I hope David does not get involved in any relationship right now. He needs to bond with his son!
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written by BND, December 29, 2009
Ok, I just read that the Brazilian relatives of Sean Goldman will continue to fight for his return. On what grounds? On the word of a nine year old child who has had untold wealth showered upon him for five years? Who has had his head filled with lies about his father? No court in the world will allow a child of nine years determine his own fate. I realize there is a rule about children expressing their wishes in court, but this is reserved for children who are older and mature, and in their teens. Citizens of Brazil, tell these overprivilaged lawyers to stop embarrasing your country. If you can't follow the law, no one will invest in your country. Now that he is in the US, there is no way he will be lured back, at least not until he is eighteen. Then, he can do as he pleases, even returning to Brazil. However, I do not believe he will do this. When he compares the two country in terms of freedom, I think he will choose the US.
must be your story, gringo 21
written by asp, December 29, 2009
ive been here over 20 years....unlike your foolish ass...

that s**t you must be describing about yourself , gets jaded after a couple of years anyway...you dont have any idea what making a commitment to brazil for two decades is like

you just reveal how tired your point of veiw is, and it makes your other arguments loose credibility like a mother f**ker

i didnt jump on your ass before bacause some of your arguments against some anti american bias were out of my playbook...it amused me...but not your obvious prejudice against brazil, or the absolutly marvelous women here

yeah, chumpy gringos like you just cant handle the sensuality...you dont have it in your regular life so you go ape s**t, coming down to brazil, and seeing women getting in touch with their sensuality in brazil and think it is just an invitation to raunchy sex...

rio isnt the only city in the world where its easy to hook up with women. chicago is a place you can pick up women easily, ive done it on an elevator...but they dont have the sensuality rolling like rio and your detailed description must be your own auto bio, because it sure aint mine...

and your disrespect for brazilian women is disgusting and pathetic...you must have gotten f**ked over badly...

brazilian women have inspired me and continue to do so....your punk ass opinion is straight from your ass hole...send it back there like a lost fart in a funky butt
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written by Gringo21, December 29, 2009
brazilian women have inspired me and continue to do so....your punk ass opinion is straight from your ass hole...send it back there like a lost fart in a funky butt


LOL. ASP, you have such a wonderful way with words, you shold be a writer (that's sarcasm by the way) and you spend WAY too much defending yourself which usually signals that I said something that cut you to the quick.

So LADY'S MAN, how many Brazilian women have you wed over your 20 years in that open sewer call Rio? JUST ONE? he asks, already knowing. LOL. Now call me a "bum-face" or some other witty creation of yours that we've come to expect from your calibre of intellect. "lost fart in a funky butt" HUH? hahahahahahahahah fricken Idiot.
Enough...
written by clean slate, December 29, 2009
Interesting article (though too long a piece.)

I guess (no, I am absolutely certain) that the only aspect of this protracted battle that DOES MATTER from now on are two:
1- Sean's welfare first and foremost!!! (no media frenzy, enough of it...no merchandising with the boy, after all he is not a commodity news anyway...
2- Establish a decent and fair relationship with his Brazilian family..yes, he's gone to US but he still has grandparents alive on his mother's side and most of all: his fraternal relationship with his sister in Brazil!! SO far, this article is the ONLY ONE that mentions his half sister! All "very accurate American media" mentions his mother died after giving birth, but that is it. NO one mention his half sister. Did she means nothing in Sean's future life?????? They would stop being brothers because D. Goldman won the legal battle? How this matter will be settled decently and fairly for Sean (not for David!)???

These tow points must matter most now. Enough of this media frenzi. It makes me sick! It is sickening to watch it unfolds like a reality show. It is as sickening as it was the way the whole affair ended in front of the American consulate...and stop publicising the boy's photos everywhere...let him alone, please! He is not a money box.
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written by Andrade, December 29, 2009
I think you like me.....


If you were a woman, I would have fallen for ya! I like your sense of humour and think that you are hilarious, even though you are a Toff. smilies/wink.gif

A little bit of advice, Old Chap. That American ASP doesn't seem to play by Queensberry rules and you better watch out.

BTW, I think you are upset with the Brasilian women, because you are finding it hard to get laid. smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/grin.gif
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written by Andrade, December 29, 2009
Interesting article (though too long a piece.)


The comments of G21 and ASP are much better though. smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/grin.gif
The Proof is in the Pudding!
written by fried chc, December 29, 2009
Once the hype dies down, the donations slow down to nothing, Sean starts to itch in lieu of the huge cultural shock, and as Sean grows-up, he gets pimples and becomes a rebellious teenager, then drains Mr. Goldman’s bank account because of toys, clothing, dentist, doctors, bicycle, sports gear, girlfriends, and then the day when he tells David to Shut-The-f**k-Up….. then what?

I would like to revisit this topics in about 3 to 5 years… Let’s see if Mr. David still is the good daddy he claims to be!

Good luck,

Costinha


PS: Is Mr. Gringo cruising for a bruising?
brazilian women......
written by asp, December 29, 2009
lets see, latley , i have been inspired by watching the female brazilian team play on tv....

not only is marta an inspiration and the best in the world, the team is fantastic....they are inspiring to watch...

any time i see elza soares , its inspiring to watch...

seeing passistas dance samba is as high as art gets anywhere and besides that i know some passistas in town and keep up with where they work, soon ill be seeing shots from rio of some of the greatest samba dancers in the world...that inspires me...

i know where to eat some incredible food cooked by a female braziian chef and it is just the best any where, that is inspiring...

and of course, as one who was into sensuality long before i came to brazil, the summer rolling just is a bath of sensuality and the special grace and liberation of the brazilian female is something that anyone who is lucky enough to be in its presence could actualy feel like they have entered some state of art like poetry for those precious moments....moments that just dont exist every where...and that is inspiring...

i could go on and on, gringo 12...

i told you , your boring so called phsyco analisation amuses the f**k out of me...you got to be revealing yourself, you dont know dick s**t about me....

i own my own exiting , no problem admitting a struggling, business that takes me on business trips to lots of places with lots of experiances.... on my off time, i look for waves to body surf...and i love the s**t out of that ...and i love culture, especialy afro brazilian culture and some, only the finest quality, hard driving new york jazz...what the f**k do you do ? where the f**k are you from ? why dont you get some guts and tell us a little bit about your self ? let us know where your pent up hatrid for brazilian women really comes from

your stupid pathetic crude statements about braziian women only makes you look like a fool , you think you are being funny? you think you are doing this thinking you are ticking me off ? you said this s**t even before i talked about it...you think you are building any credibilty with these kind of statements?....you suck the mop mother f**ker

u.s. media reports up to 80% of brazilians are illegal in the u.s.a.
written by u.s. eagle, December 29, 2009
the majority of brazilian nationals in the u.s.a. are illegal..marriage frauds (green card),counterfeit documents,fraudelent documents,fake identitys,fake international drivers licenses,fake passports,fake immigration papers,etc.,,are common place and rampant ..any american who gets involved with them in any way is an idiot...they have zero credibility...
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written by Gringo21, December 30, 2009
your stupid pathetic crude statements about braziian women only makes you look like a fool , you think you are being funny? you think you are doing this thinking you are ticking me off ? you said this s**t even before i talked about it...you think you are building any credibilty with these kind of statements?....you suck the mop mother f**ker


I can hear the snot-bubbles popping from here. smilies/cheesy.gif I think this tosser is due for a cardiac event which is a shame, because he sounds like he's just a kid; and don't blame me if you've pounded your keyboard to a pulp in blind rage. It's just a forum laddy.

This all started when one of you forum sages decided to tell me I was "unhappily married" to a Brazilian woman and hence that is why I think Cruela da Vil is a knut; well apart from it being a childish allegation, I responded that I'D NEVER DO SOMETHING SO FOOLISH as to marry a Brazilian. I've had far too many weeping gringos plop themselves on my doorstep after having been screwed over, phucked over, rolled over and left for dead - and those who still have (or claim to have) a "happy marriage" with one of these SENSUAL DELIGHTS as you consider them, all I see when they come over as a couple is a spoilt little bikini bunny huffing and puffing because gringo boy didnt get her drink fast enough. Don;t get me wrong, spending a weekend with them is great! I do it all the time, it's easy, but the idea of MARRYING one? SHUDDER. And the IN LAWS? EEEEWWWWWWW . NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. If I wanted mind games, I'd take up ACID as a recreational drug. smilies/cheesy.gif

No, you can continue your novel on the sensuality of Brazilian women, body surfing and running your own exiting. All fascinating stuff. Really. Top notch story telling, have you considered audio books? smilies/cheesy.gif
gees gringo 21, you must be a regular dr phil , ann landers and snoop dog put together...
written by asp, December 30, 2009
gringo 21 :" I've had far too many weeping gringos plop themselves on my doorstep after having been screwed over, phucked over, rolled over and left for dead - and those who still have (or claim to have) a "happy marriage" with one of these SENSUAL DELIGHTS as you consider them, all I see when they come over as a couple is a spoilt little bikini bunny huffing and puffing because gringo boy didnt get her drink fast enough. Don;t get me wrong, spending a weekend with them is great! I do it all the time, it's easy, but the idea of MARRYING one? SHUDDER. And the IN LAWS? EEEEWWWWWWW . "

i mean do share with us some of your back ground, where you come from, what you do...it whould just help give me an insight as to how you can come to such generalised biased conclusions....

ive been here more than 20 yers and dont see anything like you described....enlighten me to what circles you are running in

other wise, you are just running your mouth in cyber space hiding behind a keyboard pontificating bs with no referance or background as to where you come from and what you do...which gives you low credibility...in a deluded fantacy world
Sad outcome
written by clean slate, December 30, 2009
One of the saddest outcomes of this custody battle -- that was made absurdly public, that exposed unashamedly, unreservedly and carelessly the name and photos of this traumatised boy (check any US media website, news print, etc since long)-- as I was saying, one of the saddest outcomes was this virulent, foulmouthed, preconceived, judgmental, biased and harmful manifestation of view points..some written here by using the worst foulmouthed vocabulary at at hand.

It is a shame that may have potentially harmed the friendly diplomatic relations between US and Brazil. Xenophobic behaviour is only proof of ignorance and this is what I saddens me by reading some foulmouthed comments. How can anyone in good mind expect some fair result out of this trash?

THis case has generated (and liberated in some cases) the widest displays of intolerance, ignorance, arrogance, lack of empathy, but of them all the worst is ignorance. Ignorance is a warm gun.

Poor boy...what will be of his future? What about his relationship with his half-sister? Should it be end, terminated s it has never happened? She was born from his biological mother! Oh, Lord, has mercy on your ignorant children..they dont know what they are saying, doing...but please, look after his boy as most are taking time to spill their guts offending and attacking others who they dont know, and land they dont know. Valid for both sides of this shameless ordeal.
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written by Gringo21, December 30, 2009
Oi ASp, talvez seria melhor se nos continuamos este papo em português então? Se tiver 20 anos aqui, deveria ser muito fácil para voce, nao? Bom, eu náo faço o mínimo idéia por que eu preciso defender meus OPINIÕES por respondendo às suas perguntas idiotas. Se vc nao pode lidar com meu observações, direto, o problema é sua. Falando quanto tempo eu tenho no brasil, e o que eu faço pra sobreviver, e qual é o tamanho do meu pinto tem nada a ver com o fato que eu ja escolhei, baseados em experiências das pessoas ao meu redor, que eu NUNCA, JAMAIS casarei com uma brasileira.. Entende? Nada que vc vai dizer pode mudar isto.

Entao, com seu 20 ANOS NO BRASIL, pode corrigir meu português e responder no mesmo tempo. PQ, com 20 anos aqui vc sabe tudo, né?
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written by clean slate, December 30, 2009
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Essa foi boa!!! NO entanto, apesar da tentativa...os argumentos ainda são chulos, viesados, as palavras ainda são de baixo calão...que pobreza...mas se é somente dessa forma que alguémsabe sabe defender sue ponto de vista...fazer o quê! É rezar pra Deus e pra tudo que é santo!

O dano já foi feito. Que pena! smilies/cry.gif
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written by Gringo21, December 30, 2009
Oi Clean slate, voce escreve muito mas fala nada. E, em duas idiomas. Parabéns. Vamos ver se ASP pudesse matar a gente com tédio em português tmb. Eu tenho minhas duvidas, ele mal escreve em inglês, imagina como sera em pork n cheese.
Gringo21 BUSTED!
written by fried chc, December 30, 2009
He says “em duas idiomas” which is a typical mistake of foreigners learning Portuguese, getting confused among feminine & masculine words, non-existent in the English language.

Gringo24…. VAI SE VESTIR QUE NEM A VACA DA SUA MAE!

Beijos na (..…o..…)

Costinha

Hehehe
By the way.... Portuguese 101
written by fried chc, December 30, 2009
Beijos na (..…o..…) or Beijos no (..…o..…) ....

Depending if it refers to BUNDA or CU!

Hehehe

Costinha
oi gringo 21
written by asp, December 30, 2009
vai toma no cu....bunda mole

voce e uma idiota , lidando com mulheres como se voce fosse uma adolecente

mas, eu sei que quando eu trato mulheres esse jeito, e quando uma mulher mida muinto doer
and by the way gringo 21...
written by asp, December 30, 2009
whether i am good at portugues or not has as much relavance to your f**ked up logic as to the fact i can kick your ass around a room

it doesnt make any differance ...your bulls**t is just plain f**ked up

and im not here to pass some kind of language test for you.....kiss my ass punk bitch

man , if a mother f**ker wants to live in brazil and doesnt have some kind of affinity for the people or the culture , their life is going to be a living hell...walking around with snot ass judgements , looking down on the people..that is just some f**ked up s**t..and reveals what an uptight pea brain you are

hey , looks like you just know a lot of loser "mates" who get f**ked over like you have been, or other wise , where would you come up with such f**ked up concepts at how to relate to brazilian women..nothing wrong with two concenting adults getting together but you are just being a stuck up ass hole to buch all brazilian women into some small narrow minded catagorie...and you think i sound adolecant ?
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written by Andrade , December 30, 2009
This all started when one of you forum sages decided to tell me I was "unhappily married" to a Brazilian woman


Why do you have to drag me into your personal feud against that mean American fella? In spite of my warning you have to repeat the Light Brigade style charge against him armed just with your half arsed Portuguese.

BTW, have you heard from "Dad"? smilies/cheesy.gif. I wonder what his latest complaint is against his ex-wife. smilies/cry.gif
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written by clean slate, December 30, 2009
well...well...if the Portuguese is not that correct, at least the slang and dirty words " estão na ponta da língua" smilies/tongue.gif

I wonder how old are these people here...looks like they have escaped some educational detention for problematic teens smilies/cheesy.gif...
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written by Gringo21, December 30, 2009
@Costiha....Busted for what Costinha? Being a gringo and speaking pork n cheese as a third language? Not too bright are you. Tyr to keep up little fella.

As for ASP, 20 years in Brazil and you talk like a favalado, so palavroes sem conteudo. Not surprising when you keep company with the p**as in Rio de Janeiro (the open sewer of Brazil).

Andrade, No word from DAD, he's probably being dragged before the courts again by his SENSUAL (as asp bemoans) ex wife. Such is the sad fate to most if not all gringos wed to Brasilieras, bringing me back to my point about never wanting to marry one.

Clean Slate. HuH?

So, now that I have all of your attention. Happy New Year
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written by clean slate, December 30, 2009
there is a popular say in Brazil that goes like that: "Quem desdenha quer comprar" smilies/cool.gif got it or is too difficult for the IQ level around here ? smilies/grin.gif


Happy New Year filled with love, peace and harmony to the little S. Goldman! This is for him!

Clean Slate! smilies/wink.gif
u.s. eagle
written by Andrade, December 30, 2009
u.s. media reports up to 80% of brazilians are illegal in the u.s.a.


Listen you U.S.vulture. We are not interested in the Brasilian illegals in your country. We are focusing more on the welfare of our legal aliens like G21 who complains that he doesn't get laid enough or "Dad" who has to confront the wretched ex-wife of his everyday.I fail to understand what they got to with the illegals there. So if you want to be of any use in this thread, give some creative solutions to Gringo21 and poor Dad.
Gringo24 - Looking for a Pimp?
written by fried chc, December 30, 2009
All you do is moan and whine like a $10 whore who just got offered a top offer of $5 bucks…. What a turd-tossing tard!

I'm guessing you spend your evenings popping pimples and sniffing your sister's gym socks while waiting anxiously for your hairless balls to drop, Rupert.

I now cordially invited you to bite me.

Hehehehe

Costinha
Clean Slate
written by Andrade, December 30, 2009
I wonder how old are these people here...l


I am 4 years younger than Oscar Niemeyer and I cant speak for rest of the urchins in this blog.
ASP... Don't mind Gringo24, The Sexually Deprived Peckerwood!
written by fried chc, December 30, 2009
Gringo 21 is the proof and result of a drunk masturbating over a tank full of spawning guppies!

Hehehe..... Beijos na Bunnnnnnnnnnnnnda,

Costinha da Costa
Cameraelle Sweetie Pie
written by fried chc, December 30, 2009
Why don't you post a few (...Y...) pics to entertain the boys?

Are you sexy and slim like Brazilian girls, or typical american women, fat and mouthy?

Kissies you know where....

Costinha

ha ha
written by asp, December 30, 2009
yeah, costa, this gringo 21 sure has a snot nose stink coming off him...

this mo fo actualy thinks he is some one really special and superior ...but he is a coward afraid to give any hint about where he is from

i always wonder about foreiners who live in brazil but have distain for the people the culture the language...

gringo 21, you can f**k with me all you want, but, when you f**k with costa...your ass is going to be grass...you must be a glutten for pain

i got to brazil at 36, the language was hard for me and still is because i started late...but portuguese , brazilian style, is a beautiful language
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written by Gringo21, December 30, 2009
hahahha ASP, 20 years in a country and he cant speak the language. And I have an issue with the culture? hahahhaahah That's simply PATHETIC!

i always wonder about foreiners who live in brazil but have distain for the people the culture the language...


Who says I live here, and who says I have a disDain for the people and culture? I simply said I'd never marry a brasiliera, they are too much work - and the inlaws such. You obviously have difficulties with English too.

And what is this Costinha you speak of? The idiot that thought I was posing as a Brazilian? Ya, he's brilliant. s/ From one idiot who thinks calling people "butt face" to another idiot who enjoys call people "poopy pants"the two of you together typify the Rio experience. Smarmy cariocas and loser gringos.

Kisses.....
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written by brasilian mother in japan, December 30, 2009
david x brazil??? no!!!
david x bianchi&lins e silva
gringo 21...culture is a whole lot more than language , you stupid fool
written by asp, December 31, 2009
and dont punk bitch out here and pretend you didnt put down brazilian women...

i dont give a f**k if you have your 20 minutes (is that all you got ? i suggest you invest in some viarga) or a weekend , or never want to get married to a brazilian,that is not the issue.

you made biased and generalised statements putting down brazilian women in general that came out of your a*****e

and you think you are ticking me off or something...hey fart face, you took pot shots at me on another thread and i didnt even lay in on you...

your disgusting put down of brazilian women needed to be addressed...and now you are trying to play like you didnt really say anything demeaning

you yellow bellied coward hiding behind a computor . you think you are fooling everyone because you are too chicken to be man enough to own up to your statements . or let us know some kind of background that could bring you to such dumb conclusions that lump all brazilian women in your butt f**k logic.

you are only playing peek a boo with your own dick thinking you have us all fooled about where you came from or where you are

you think this is out of anger....its my pleasure to put my foot up your ass....

and im not insecure in any way of my knowledge and respect for brazilian culture....

why dont you try to stick your dick up your ass...and have a happy new year
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written by Gringo21, December 31, 2009
Asp you are proving to be one of the most obtuse idiots on this site, which isn't easy given the fierce competition. I certainly did put down Brazilian women, never said I didn't. I called them whiny, needy, self-absorbed idiots for the most part and I wouldn't marry one. They should come with warning labels: PROLONGED EXPOSURE IS HAZARDOUS TO YOUR FINANCIAL AND MENTAL HEALTH. So? Is my honesty tantamount to a bella causa in your myopic world view?

And anyone in their 50s using language like "fart face" is obviously CLINICALLY mentally slow. Your prose highlights your complete and total lack of intellectual scaffolding with which to support any original idea or argument. To use YOUR witty vernacular: "YOU DUMB".

It is interesting for someone who finds Brazilian women so PERFECT AND SENSUAL that after 20 years, apart from not learning their language to have any REAL CONVERSATION, you haven't wed one yet (or are you a multiple divorcée?) Either way, you're an idiot and, which is becoming increasingly clearer, a hypocrite. Now back to the favelas where you can impress the ladies with your 20 year command of the Portuguese language.

You've got "look here, dumb American stereotype" written across your forehead, now sod off. You getting boring.

lol.
Gringo24…. You are a disgrace to the a.s.s.hole you were farted out of at birth.
written by fried chc, December 31, 2009
Firstly - If I wanted to hear from an a*****e, I'd fart.

Secondly – Nahhh, that pretty much covers it!

Gringo24, If I've said anything to offend you, I mean it.

Hehehe

Costinha
[b]Gringo24…. The Sheep-Molesting Prick[/b]
written by fried chc, December 31, 2009


He says “It is interesting for someone who finds Brazilian women so PERFECT AND SENSUAL”….

Gringo24 had an "R" tattooed on his penis because there wasn't enough room to spell "ROB."??? I'd Castrate You If You Had Anything I Could Chop Off…

Hehehe

Costa
yeah, gringo 21, i use that language when i have to dumb down to idiots like you...
written by asp, December 31, 2009
because there is no normal dialougue with punk bitches like you...all i can do is bend your ass over and put my foot up it... which is my pleasure...

why the f**k should i give you any insight into my personal life (which is wonderful , by the way), when a totaly yellow bellied coward like you hides behind your screen and wont say s**t about himself except to make stupid biased comments about brazilian women..

bitches like you dont deserve normal conversation, you just deserve to be punked out...

always amazing, an obviously educated person like yourself, who makes such stupid comments about brazilian women...you sound like a little stuck up snot nose pussy...and anyone who generalises about women like that must have issues with women....that sais a lot for education...it dont mean much if its a dork turd getting it

yes, brazilian women dont deserve to be stereotyped and demeaned from an ass hole like you and i owe so much to the brazian women i do feel like speaking up for them
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written by Gringo21, December 31, 2009
"an obviously educated person like yourself"

Thank you, but the observation is NOT mutual. And there is no need to ASK you for personal information ASP, like a leaking toilet you can't help but spill your personal s**t all over. How else do we know that you are a failed businessman in Rio for 20 years with little interest (or aptitude) in learning the language?

Então ta trutinho, um prospero ano pra vc e muitos felicidades com suas brasileiras alugadas. Talvez o ano que vem vc vai aprender de COMUNICAR com eles além de simplesmente perguntar "quanto custo". :-)
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written by Gringo21, December 31, 2009
"Elas" quis teclar, nao eles...."ELES" é pra Costinha o bicha da site....
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written by BND, December 31, 2009
ASP and gringo 21, you are both idiots!!
The comments here are suposed to be about Sean Goldman and the fact that the Brazilian Supreme Court ruled him to be returned to his father. What ever the hell you guys are talking about is pure idocy! Exchange e-mails, and then carry on you pathetic conversation in private. That would really do us all a giant favor!
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written by Andrade, December 31, 2009
ASP and gringo 21, you are both idiots!!


No, we don't think so. They are very bright folks.

The comments here are suposed to be about Sean Goldman and the fact that the Brazilian Supreme Court ruled him to be returned to his father.


Nobody imposed any restrictions on the comments being limited to the main topic of the article. Besides, the stories on Goldstein & Son have become repetitive and boring and thus the readers have no more patience to put up with their family squabbles. Gringo21 was merely seeking for some clarifications on Brazilian women and ASP, being an authority on the issue was giving all the necessary info free of charge.

I don't think that even the Brazilian Supreme court can order these gentlemen to stick to the topic. That is against the Freedom of Speech guaranteed by our constitution.
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written by BnD, December 31, 2009
Seriously?! Bright folks?!! Necessary info free of charge about Brazilian woman, written on a site concerning the international kidnapping of an American/Brazilian child? This is revelant how.......?

Didn't say it was required or demanded to stay on subject, just thought it would be nice if people could.

I still think the exchanging email idea is a good one. Then they could post if for folks like you who enjoy such childish drivel.

Oh, and by the way, Feliz Ano Novo!!
Can't wait to get to Copa for the fireworks!!
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written by Wow, December 31, 2009
"i got to brazil at 36, the language was hard for me and still is because i started late...but portuguese , brazilian style, is a beautiful language"

True Portuguese is beautiful indeed, but i disgress with the brzln style, they sound like someone from the hood talking.
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written by BnD, December 31, 2009
I will digress for this comment, but I think Brazilian Portuguese spoken by a beautiful Brazilian woman is a wondeful thing. Mmmmmm....thinking about Alessandra Ambrosio and Adriana Lima, the two most beautiful women in the world.
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written by Andrade, December 31, 2009
I will digress for this comment, but I think Brazilian Portuguese spoken by a beautiful Brazilian woman is a wondeful thing. Mmmmmm....thinking about Alessandra Ambrosio and Adriana Lima, the two most beautiful women in the world.


The enthusiasm for Brazilian women can be contagious as demonstrated by your latest comment. You too deviated from the main topic.smilies/wink.gif

Feliz ano novo pra te tbm. You going to Copa for fireworks? Just make sure you don't catch anything.smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
oh ha ha ha mccran is going to sc......blahhaha ha ha
written by asp, January 01, 2010
that is a good one, i dont live there but i have a deep inside contact that tells me florianopolis is overun with mossad agents....the government and police force are run at the top by zionists...

they are there exactly because of a large german population, and since they smell that nazis came there after world war 2, they established their base there a long time ago...they are on the hunt all the time for potential anti zionists in the area...they probably already are monitering this thread and know you might be on the way....

i dont even know why im tipping you off...
and jake, you idiot, giuliani is italian

go f**k yourself , they are waiting for you in sc
ahhhhh wrong thread people
written by asp, January 01, 2010
thought i was sending it to another thread

bnd, you think i digressed, you are lucky jake isnt in here
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written by Wow, January 02, 2010
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written by BnD, December 31, 2009
I will digress for this comment, but I think Brazilian Portuguese spoken by a beautiful Brazilian woman is a wondeful thing. Mmmmmm....thinking about Alessandra Ambrosio and Adriana Lima, the two most beautiful women in the world.


Any language spoken by beautiful women sounds good.
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written by Wow, January 02, 2010
The enthusiasm for Brazilian women can be contagious as demonstrated by your latest comment. You too deviated from the main topic.

Ye, anyone meeting brazilian women anywhere & mostly in brazil need to take a brantibiotic.
Cesare Battisti Case
written by Daniel Romero, January 02, 2010
"Another recent example of the confusing Supreme Court system in Brazil occurred during a battle last month between the Court and President Lula over the protection of an Italian former guerrilla, Cesare Battisti, whose government had demanded his extradition. For reasons unknown to me, Lula opposed the extradition and granted Battisti asylum in Brazil."

Cesare Battisti case is easy to explain: the Brazilian constitution says it's ONLY the president who is responsible whatever some dude must be extradicted or not (And that was what an embaressed supreme court "discovered"). The supreme court can't do a thing about that, Italy tried that in vain. And there's the problem about Battisti case, from what I heard there's only accusation witness, and it was a cop that arrested him, or someone related to the case, there's no physical or strong evidence. There's strong belief here that one is innocent unless proven otherwise, that why he stayed so far.
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written by Andrade, January 02, 2010
Ye, anyone meeting brazilian women anywhere & mostly in brazil need to take a brantibiotic.


Listen WOW. We don't give a s**t about your opinion on anything including Brazil. With your sissy screen name "WOW", you sound more like a castrated poodle.

BTW, if you hear anything from your fellow whiner "Dad", keep us all posted.
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written by Dad, January 03, 2010
I don't think that even the Brazilian Supreme court can order these gentlemen to stick to the topic. That is against the Freedom of Speech guaranteed by our constitution.



Nearly pissed myself after that one! Remember when Lula tried to deport the NY Times reporter because he reported that he liked to drink?

Freedom of speech is a risky business in Brazil, especially when telling the truth about all the corruption that takes place. Just look at the reports from amnesty international, reporters without borders, among others.

And where was this "freedom of speech", truth in journalism, etc, four, three, two years ago here in Brazil concerning this very case?

One brazilian family managed to completely muzzle then manipulate the entire brazilian media.....for years. It wasn't until November of 2008 that Piaui magazine finally had the "balls" to report on the story in a truthful fashion.

Freedom of speech? In Brazil? One shouldn't use such complex phrases that he doesn't understand.smilies/wink.gif
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written by João da Silva, January 03, 2010
It wasn't until November of 2008 that Piaui magazine finally had the "balls" to report on the story in a truthful fashion.


You must be the owner of that magazine, Dad. Finally your balls grew up to the right size to print the story.

You sound very cheerful in the New Year, Dad. Must have a found a nice "step mother" for your daughter during the year end parties.smilies/wink.gif

May be Gringo21 should go up and visit ya and get some fatherly advice.smilies/grin.gif
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written by Wow, January 03, 2010
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written by Andrade, January 02, 2010
Ye, anyone meeting brazilian women anywhere & mostly in brazil need to take a brantibiotic.
Listen WOW. We don't give a s**t about your opinion on anything including Brazil. With your sissy screen name "WOW", you sound more like a castrated poodle.
BTW, if you hear anything from your fellow whiner "Dad", keep us all posted.

-Now listen to this brayauca telling me what i can say or not say, who made you king of the matchbox castle, I can call myself whatever i like; if you don't like it scram, your comments are just as appreciated as mine; ouviu CHIFRADAO, CRY SOME MORE YOU GET THEM AGAIN GALEGAO.
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written by Andrade, January 03, 2010


Sure, you have plenty of choices, though "WOW,WOW.......WOW" would be the ideal one.

your comments are just as appreciated as mine;


List at least three other people besides Dad,Gringo21 and Bnd , who appreciate your comments.

ouviu CHIFRADAO, CRY SOME MORE YOU GET THEM AGAIN GALEGAO.


Translate this into Brazilian Portugués (or English), please.

Have a great New Year, WOW,WOW......WOW.smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by Andrade, January 03, 2010
May be Gringo21 should go up and visit ya and get some fatherly advice.


Great suggestion, João. But I dont think G21 has enough balls to travel to that Cú do Mundo where Dad lives.smilies/wink.gif
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written by Gringo21, January 04, 2010
Crikkies, you guys must have missed me. It looks like not a day went by when I wasn't mentioned on this site. I must have really left an great impression to occupy so much of everyone's time and thoughts. Feliz Ano Novo to YA'LL as well...

And I don't consider DAD a whiner by any stretch of the imagination, but it's not surprising that some in Brazil do. In Sambalandia a foreigner can't even joke about the weather without some thin-skinned chest pounding knuckle dragging uber-nationalist screaming "GO BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY GRINGO". It's rather annoying, especially when you want to engage in a serious discussion, but at least some have taken note of this nationwide retardation and are taking the piss. Thanks Havaianas, there is hope. I don't like you product, but I LOVE this spot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLPv8R2L6ZE

resumindo...I think DAD has a lot to offer on this particular subject, especially since he is a foreigner with a child in Brazil. You should pay more attention to him and his views since he has actually gone to hell and back over a separation that involved a child. He's well informed, and has personal experiences that can shed some light on the judicial system in Brazil and how it relates to foreigners.

His reference to the PURCHASED media blackout speaks volumes to the GOldman case and Lins n Silva family's power and tactics. I forgot all about it, and thanks to DAD for bringing up this important piece of the story again. This family KNEW that once their kidnapping made news and that it was known that a father had been squeezed out of his sons life by an arrogant and elite family, it was all over for them. They would lose sympathy on the side of Brazil and the US. It was an open and shut case, contrary to what they claimed. That's why they bought the media black out from the judge. The second the paper that Dad Mention said "screw this, you can't tell us what is news" the s**t hit the fan and, not surprisingly, months later the case was resolved LEGALLY.

By the way, how much is it to by a judge in Brazil these days? Anyone know? Maybe Havaiana will do a commercial about this, too.

Happy Deuce Naught Ten to all. I'm off on more holidays, but I'm feeling all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I'll not leave your thoughts. See you all soon.
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written by WOW, January 04, 2010
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written by Andrade, January 03, 2010
Sure, you have plenty of choices, though "WOW,WOW.......WOW" would be the ideal one.
your comments are just as appreciated as mine;
List at least three other people besides Dad,Gringo21 and Bnd , who appreciate your comments.

I rally don't care who on here inclduign you appreciates my comments or not, this is an open forum, i didn't know that bellogers were being voted upon, if you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen.

Your nothing but a sore loser.
So now go back to sleep & make sur Mamae tells you to do chi chi, ta.

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written by WOW, January 04, 2010
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written by Andrade, January 03, 2010
Sure, you have plenty of choices, though "WOW,WOW.......WOW" would be the ideal one.
your comments are just as appreciated as mine;
List at least three other people besides Dad,Gringo21 and Bnd , who appreciate your comments.
ouviu CHIFRADAO, CRY SOME MORE YOU GET THEM AGAIN GALEGAO.
Translate this into Brazilian Portugués (or English), please.

Have a great New Year, WOW,WOW......WOW.

I did translate it to both languages, obviously you don't understand neither, sad, but hen again what do you expect from the brazikian educational system YOU.
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written by Andrade , January 04, 2010
Crikkies, you guys must have missed me. It looks like not a day went by when I wasn't mentioned on this site.


Blog Jester is an important figure and hence you were missed.

Thanks Havaianas, there is hope. I don't like you product, but I LOVE this spot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLPv8R2L6ZE


Who were you in that spot? Did you get paid?

In Sambalandia a foreigner can't even joke about the weather without some thin-skinned chest pounding knuckle dragging uber-nationalist screaming "GO BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY GRINGO". It's rather annoying, especially when you want to engage in a serious discussion, but at least some have taken note of this nationwide retardation and are taking the piss.


Now you are behaving like an old maid. Did I ever say "GO BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY GRINGO"? A malicious statement by you and I am deeply hurt.

I forgot all about it, and thanks to DAD for bringing up this important piece of the story again.


Goldstein got his son back and Dad found a brand new Stepmother for his daughter and you are the only one that wants to remember this "story". Find yourself a new cause to fight for.

By the way, how much is it to by a judge in Brazil these days?


I will send e-mail to 3 important judges and ask them to give the lowest quote and I will post the figure. All quotes to include 20% brokerage fee for me.

I'm off on more holidays, but I'm feeling all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I'll not leave your thoughts.


Thanks. But don't take too long to come back and entertain us. Rmember what I said about Blog Jester. Have great holidays and loud "WOW,WOW,WOW..." to you
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written by Gringo21, January 04, 2010
Goldstein got his son back and Dad found a brand new Stepmother for his daughter and you are the only one that wants to remember this "story". Find yourself a new cause to fight for.


Actually, the story is NOT over (not until Cruela da vil is charged with abduction) and there are 60 other cases pending in Brazil. Bury your head to the reality if you want, but one thing certain gringos don't do is rollover easily and accept bulls**t. This blog is about the Goldman Case (custody) and corruption in Brazil, issues DAD can discuss with inside knowledge. I want to hear his opinions without dittoheads popping spewing nonsense. YOU on the other hand are just another Haviana commercial parody. If you don't like the discussion, there are a dozen other posts you can FO to. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out.

BTW a 20% Brokerage fee? That's actually not too bad. I just may take you up on that offer, I have a few pesky legal/land matters and idiots that need "O JEITINHO" or "Se sabe com quem vc esta falando". Maybe I am, as they say, se tornando brasileiro.;-) God help me.
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written by Andrade, January 04, 2010
Maybe I am, as they say, se tornando brasileiro.


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