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The Ropes on Buying and Selling Real Estate in Brazil Taught by a Pro PDF Print E-mail
2010 - September 2010
Written by Ruban Selvanayagam   
Friday, 17 September 2010 00:37

Building to be built in Brazil Aline Lisboa is a fully qualified surveyor and valuation engineer with several years experience of examining real estate and land throughout Brazil. We thought it would be useful to gain an understanding of how her organization operates, particularly in light of the difficulty of obtaining the true market value of property-related assets in the country.

In this interview she talks about her experience in the industry; factors to consider when approaching value in Brazil; due diligence methodology; risk minimization; essential services supply; purchasing rural land and future growth prospects of her own city (Rio de Janeiro) and Brazil in general.

You can give our readers some information about your formation as a valuation engineer?

Like all engineering students, I gained my qualification from a state university (of Rio de Janeiro) and in the first part of my higher education, worked as an intern at an insurance corporation for six months. My time here was spent supporting the overall operation of the organization as well as learning the fundamentals of property evaluation, feasibility analysis and several other topics which served to assist my engineering studies - in fact, I decided to extend my time there based in the organization's consultation department.

After graduation, I received a proposal from an ex-client (a bank that operates in six different countries who was also a client of this firm) to form the CONAI property and land evaluation company which, naturally, I jumped at.  Today, in addition to myself, we have an experienced architect, a qualified lawyer, an accounts team as well as administrative support and trainee engineers.

CONAI serves the likes of Banco Itaú, HSBC Bank Brasil, Brazilian Mortgages, Bancorbras, Banco do Brasil amongst others. Our operation is mainly focused on work with these banks on their credit lending, complemented by real estate and land viability studies; survey reports; detailed measurements and cost of works budgeting.

We also work with independent real estate companies and buyers, both small and large, in the same manner and our case load is increasing in line with the growth of the Brazilian property market.

What are the main factors that should be taken into consideration when you approach the evaluation of a building or plot of land?

From the outset, it is worth stating that approaching valuation should be viewed in essentially the same manner regardless of the type of real estate related asset - whether that is a field, an office space in a commercial building or a residential apartment. In my professional view, perhaps the most important factor to consider is the location and neighborhood - something which remains fairly standard in most global marketplaces.

Of course, there are also other fundamentals such as the build quality (which, particularly in Brazil, can vary hugely); level of finishing; micro economic factors; neighboring towns/cities; competition; local government policy; regeneration policies in place; employment; income levels amongst other factors.

A problem that we often encounter that your readers should be aware of is that in large conurbations such as Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo, where there is urban sprawl and visible divides of income distribution, statistical discrepancies can occur in producing a market valuation due to such extreme variations in price ranges.

For example, I can value a 3 bedroom apartment in Barra da Tijuca in Rio's West Zone (where the rate of violence is relatively low) and have the exactly same unit in neighboring Jacarepaguá (where the violence rate is slightly higher due to the presence of a generally poorer demographic of resident) which would value significantly lower - the difficulty is exacerbated when evaluating a property that is on the border of a richer and a poorer area.

For many Brazilians, your postal code is a sign of your social status - a consideration that completely contradicts the mathematically-based principles we learnt at engineering school! The point I am trying to make is that valuation is not always a clear cut process.

In terms of analysis of property or land values - are there any public sources of data that can be accessed by investors?

Here in Brazil, the current professional analysis of the market value for property is solely allocated to private companies specializing in real estate assessments. I believe one of the main reasons for this is the real estate market in Brazil has gone through a great period of change of the last two decades and, as such, the process has become convoluted.

However, during this period the market has become more sophisticated and sold data, although no official, is often logged by real estate companies (which can be made available upon demand). It is also possible to see the level of IPTU (Imposto sobre a propriedade predial e territorial urbana, local government tax) being paid, which can determine what the declared value of the property is - however investors should be careful as to assume this value as we often see that, particularly in a growing market, the real time evaluation is often higher (this can be accidental or purposely registered with the local government in order to avoid paying higher taxes).

It is my belief that the Fundação Getúlio Vargas (FGV) is in the process of creating what will be Brazil's first official register of property and values - whilst this will not be a legal record, it is widely agreed that it will help with the process of understanding house prices in Brazil better (note there has not been a confirmed date for this to be available to the wider public).

What are the main risks that you feel an investor in Brazil should be aware of and how can they be protected?

When analyzing risks, I think it is important for the investor to ask him/herself the following questions as a minimum:
* What are the most promising sites?
* Which regions are expected to grow the most?
* Should the investment be within the city or in the outskirts?
* Should the land plot be one that is ready for development or one where planning permission needs to be obtained?
* What are the potential asset depreciating factors that could come into play? For example, is the property or land plot located in a poorer neighborhood / is there a probability of growth of favela slums or other related risks?
* Is the area subject to flooding?
* How are the basic infrastructural facilities (water, electricity supply and sanitation)?

Other than these, obtaining the correct legal advice is a must and, whilst overseas Brazil property investors have identical rights to residents, any contractual agreement must been examined with a fine toothed comb. There are also certificates that guarantee the investor a minimum level of security when purchasing a property, namely:
* a certificate of encumbrances (Certidão de Ônus Reais) which will indicate whether the property or land plot has any attached issues whether that would be judicial, existing liens (such as mortgage ties) or other overriding factors (such as usufruct rights) that can corrupt a clean transaction;
* a certificate which will show the history of the property in the last twenty years (Certidão Vintenária) - an added guarantee that is often used to assure the buyer that there have been no previous legal or other related issues;
* a long lease certificate (Certidão Enfitêutica) in order to determine whether the property is public or private;
* with regards to rural Brazilian land / property purchases, ownership can be protected in the form of a geo-referenced certificate from INCRA (Ministério do Desenvolvimento Agrário, Ministry of Agrarian Development).

Other important factors to bear in mind include issues with regards to shared condominium obligations (including related taxes and other fees) and also, particularly with commercial property in Brazil, if the owner/s has/have any labor claims against him/her/them.

How can overseas investors ascertain whether important factors such as water, electricity, drainage are adequately in place?

The best points of reference for this information is the local government (Prefeitura) as well as the agencies responsible for each of these services. In Rio de Janeiro, for example, the company responsible for water supply is SECONSERVA and then other services related to sanitation, gas supply, electricity, canal management, storm drainage and other essentials are dealt by in conjunction with COMLURB and the CGC (Coordenadoria Geral de Conservação, General Coordination of Conservation).

It's important to remember that these services are primary only and investors should verify the such essential systems within the buildings they are investing in - particularly with larger projects (such as condominiums or apartment blocks).

With regards to the ongoing national controversy on the Movement of Landless Workers (Movimento dos Trabalhadores Rurais Sem Terra, MST) - many investors remain concerned as to the risks of buying land, particularly in remote locations. Can they be minimized?

Firstly, is should be noted that the MST is a movement organized by rural workers in order to place pressure on the government to ensure full access and entitlement to land produce - the role of the movement is often unjustifiably assumed by both Brazilian and internationals as being something akin to gypsyism.

Secondly, what many people do not know is that it's not enough to simply 'take hold' of the land and for it to be subject to land reform it needs to be unproductive. What follows is that the government buys the unproductive land in order for it to be redistributed to the rural workers. There have been many cases where MST protesters have occupied these lands have been removed by the military because it is deemed to remain as private property.

A short-term solution for those who have land that may be considered unproductive is to take advantage of the market in Brazil and sell or perhaps come to an agreement to rent (where possible). I am aware that this is what is occurring in various regions in São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro and Rio Grande do Sul amongst others.

The CONAI organization has its headquarters in Rio de Janeiro, which is one of the cities of Brazil which has witnessed massive growth in property prices in recent times prompting a debate that they are becoming out of touch with reality - how true do you think this is?

The growth of the market values of properties in Rio de Janeiro has happened for different reasons and some parts of the city have witnessed more rapid growth than others. In the West Zone for example, we have Barra da Tijuca: a neighborhood that has a tremendous amount of land suitable for building with the added benefits of being located close to the beach; a good proportion of upper middle class Cariocas as well as very modern facilities / infrastructure without crowdedness.

Prices have increased considerably and land has been highly sought after by developers. The South Zone (home of world renowned areas such as Copacabana, Ipanema and Leblon) contains some of the most expensive real estate in Brazil which has also increased (in addition to very limited available land space).

Then you have areas such as Jacarepaguá (mentioned above) and areas of the north zone (such as Tijuca, Duque de Caxias and Nova Iguaçu) and as well as moving to north of the state where much of the country's new found oil wealth is to be found (such as Macaé and Campos de Goytacazes) - where prices are considerably lower in comparison but growth prospects look strong.

The fact is that it is important to look at prices from an affordability perspective - as our economy has grown, so has the wage levels of the general population. People in Rio, generally speaking, are earning more (this includes the lower classes) and have better access to credit than ever before and, therefore, prices have been increasing accordingly.

I think it will be time to worry about a bubble when the house prices go beyond the abilities of people being able to meet their commitments. The banks have seen what has happened in the rest of the world with regards to over-zealous lending and also do not want a repeat scenario of what happened in the 1980s - for this reason, it is not a simple process to get a home loan in Brazil (as was formerly the case in countries like the USA) and inflation control is considered of more importance than ever (by both the government and the general public). I also feel that Rio de Janeiro (and many other cities of Brazil) have an issue of under-supply, once this situation improves it should theoretically bring more equilibrium and sustained growth into the market place.

What areas of Brazil do you see as the most promising?

I think it is fair to say that most states in Brazil are witnessing growth in some way or another yet, specifically, as well as Rio de Janeiro (city and state), São Paulo has for a long time offered interesting opportunities - the East Zone is currently a hot bed of activity with the creation of the red subway line.

The central states such as Goiás and Tocantins offer excellently valued real estate and are receiving a huge amount of both private and public funding (such as via the Growth Acceleration Program). In the South, Porto Alegre and Curitiba are excellent cities to invest in with modern facilities and some of the highest standards of living in the country.

The Northeast also offers excellent value (prices are generally cheaper the further north of the country) and is also seeing a wide range of construction activity including hotel and other commercial development as well as residential projects throughout.

How can investors contact CONAI and make use of your services?

CONAI is a company that actively works with over two hundred engineers throughout the country in conjunction with the major credit bureaus and real estate both small and large.

Besides appraisal reports (residential, commercial, industrial real estate and land), we can advise on a range of feasibility issues, works measurement, budgeting amongst other real estate related issues.

Service:
Email: engenharia@conaiconsultoria.com.br
Telephone: +55 00 (21) 2671 5417 (Central Rio de Janeiro)

Ruban Selvanayagam is a Brazil real estate and land specialist. For free e-books, state guides, up-to-date statistics, strategies, interviews, articles, weekly broadcasts and more please head to the Brazil Real Estate and Land Investment Guide via the following link:
http://www.brazilinvestmentguide.com/brazil-property-real-estate-land/



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written by WTLB, September 18, 2010
The shallows –
a crane’s thighs splashed
in cool waves
LOSERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
written by ch.c, September 18, 2010
Sorry for you ALL !!

In life there are winners and losers.
And winners are always smarter and better than losers, by definition !
As true in sports or economy, or development, or wealth, or infrastructure, or healthcare, or education, or pollution, etc etc etc !

And losers are very good at criticizing WINNERS !

And WINNERS LAUGHS !
They are telling losers, "CHOOSE YOUR CAMP!"
It is not difficult to be in the winners camp !
Suffice to more or less COPY what the winners do !

Unfortunately, I know I am right !

Unfortunately for you Brazilians, Gringos and EU members !

But that is YOUR FAULT !
Because YOU elected YOUR LEADERS !

And for example, WHEN have brazilians made several large streets demonstrations fighting CORRUPTIONS, VOTE BUYING and MEGA HIGH INTERESTS RATES ?????

NEVER EVER FOR SURE !

Reality being that MEGA HIGH BANKS INTERESTS RATES are very positive for a few, not the majority.
Yessss....yesssss it allows banks to hire too many UNNECESSARY employees !
Somewhat the same at your state owned or state controlled companies.
And same again for your various governments. from municipalities, to states to central government and its many agencies.

Ohhhh and all these UNNECESSARY jobs have also generous salaries (comparatively to the real private sector) and pensions !

Thus you all dream to be hired in public companies or governments !

But let me tell you all this :
A Billion currency over spent were it is UNNECESSARY, CANNOT be spent again where it is NECESSARY !
Such as in education, healthcare, roads, rails, utilies, garbage collection or for social projects !

Common sense will always surface ! Uncommon sense too !

You are slowly but surely going to pay a dear price in the years ahead. Dont ask me when, because I dont know.
Thus it is not a questionn of IF but WHEN !
Exactly the same than in your famous infamous past.
And nearly the same as IN THE PIIGS countries !
I said nearly as the PIIGS countries, because these countries CAN NO LONGER PRINT THEIR CURRENCY.
YOU CAN !
Thus they, they were recently punished with higher rates !

Your problem is that your government is already punished with higher rates, since Brazil has the World Highest Interets Rates, after inflation !
Thus sooner or later, it will be your currency & your rates that will be punished !

Tsssk tsssk that is not for the near term !

Every brazilian junkie, including foreign junkies, afre 100000 % sure that the recent and actual BRL strength is due to its fundamental. MY ANSWER IS NOOOOOOO BUT because you are doing ok and still pay the World Highest Rate...after inflation.
This is called...carry trades !
And who do you think make the largest and easiest profits ?
THE LENDER, NOT THE BORROWER, by definition !

LOSERS, LOSERS, LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ok about winners and loosers.....
written by asp, September 18, 2010
but what if you are neutral ?
ch.c
written by João da Silva, September 18, 2010

Happy to note that you have reached Harare safely.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
but what if you are neutral ?
written by ch.c, September 19, 2010
To asp the idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Braz-zeroesssssss you better look at what is happening in your sh.tty country.

Hmmmmm ! Ahhhhh.....ahhhhhh !

AND Robbing Hook criticizes...THE DEVELOPED NATIONS !!
Reality being that
- without the developed nations, Brazil would not be where it is today, while developed nations would be where they are today WITHOUT BRAZIL !
- Brazil could no longer be in development in the years ahead without MORE MONEY from developed nations and without their actual and futures technologies !

Fact being that Brazil is JUST A LARGE GARDEN and brazilians are SECOND CLASS gardeners using foreign developed seeds and tools.

And I must underline that you are not very productive PER HECTARE !
Reality being that using your own CEPEA as source, it comes out that your national wheat production per hectare is just above 2 tonnes. Against 6 tons in my country.
Potatoes production is around 25 tons per hectare in Brazil. Against 42 tons in my country !
Corn production is around 3-4 tons per hectare in Brazil. Against well above 8 tons in my country !
Better yet, most of your grains exports to developed nations are for ANIMALS FEEDS......NOT HUMAN CONSUMPTION !


And concerning your mega production of sugarcane it is either for local consumption or export to NON DEVELOPED NATIONS.

Europe is producing more than enough sugar !
We even reduced our production....to let YOU produce more ! Ahhhh....ahhhh !

Keep working harder and harder.....using OUR INPUTS !
Without OUR inputs, Brazil would have a much much lower OUTPUT than your existing one, already not that great....as stated above !

YOU depend on us and not the opposite, regardless of what you may pretend or read time and again !

MOST MEGA POPULATION COUNTRIES HAVE THEIR OWN CAR MAKERS.
NOT BRAZIL !!
Proof that Brazil REMAINS A SECOND CLASS BACKWARD COUNTRY FOR YEARS TO COME......until proven otherwise !

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asp
written by João da Silva, September 19, 2010

but what if you are neutral ?


You asked for a real "minjada" and Komrad ch.c obliged you with a nice one.smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif

BTW, I am glad the "Pro", Ruban interviewed doesn't recommend our city to the "foreign junkies". We may not mind receiving "Neutral Swiss" investors, though.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
oh laugh it up joao
written by asp, September 19, 2010
ch c pode mijar tudo que ele quer

nothing touched me, i dont think you even saw the fine ass bootie i saw today , let alone ch c ....

mijar mijar ,mijar no vento ...blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
asp
written by João da Silva, September 19, 2010

nothing touched me, i dont think you even saw the fine ass bootie i saw today , let alone ch c ....


But...But...But..., do they have such fine ass beauties in Geneve? If so, my next vacation is there.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
Ignorant Rant
written by skarrlette, September 20, 2010
In response to ignorant CH.C who wrote that ridiculous uneducated rant that is very hard to follow exaclty what he/she is talking about!!!

First of all it is not as simple as winners and losers it never has been. It has to do with exploitation and the abuse and use of countries that were maybe behind by colonization. That ravaged a lot of underdeveloped nations and left them in tatters. You must read history to find the truth.

Brazil is an up and coming nation that will come to the top I guarantee that in the next 50 years you might even see a dip in the US standard of living and in increase in Brazil's standard as they find there footing.

Brazil is a fertile rich nation with a lot to offer and export and is exporting to many nations. As well as making a lot of trade agreements with large nations. Brazil will become a power and you better watch out for it.

It has some of the most natural resources in the world. Beef, Oil, Steel, civilian built aircraft, stone, sand, cement & lime, iron and steel products Coffee, Sugar, Soy, and the list goes on.

There infrastructure if developing at a great rate as well.

The people are smart, the Olympics will be there and more and more will happen in Brazil as HER TIME WILL COME!!!

You need to do your homework because you have no idea what you are talking about.
Brazil is an up and coming nation that will come to the top I guarantee that in the next 50 years
written by ch.c, September 20, 2010

I LAUGH LAUGH AND LAUGH ENDLESSLY !

Envy and jealousy....is the brazilians norm

Facts are that
- MOST South americans countries had a HIGHER economic growth rate on average than the Braz-zeroes.
- from 2003 to 2006 Brazil had a LOW economic growth rate. So shameful....that Robbing Hook....changed the methodology !!! SHORT MEMORY ? And of course the new methodology gave a HIGHER growth rate, including for the previous years....funnily !

As to the foreign cars makers in Brazil...YOU ARE A PLANET AWAY OF REALITY !!!!!!
The true reason is because the Braz-zeroes charge OVER 100 % IMPORT TAX, on foreign cars !

Think about it...if you can !

Last but not least on the APPARENT PROWESS of the Braz-zeroes :
YOU are the only BRIC country....WITHOUT A LOCAL CARS MANUFACTURERS !
Zilch...and you pretend you are soooooooo developed and such a jewel ! Far less than India in the technology. Far less than India in the drugs sector !
Far less than India in the software sector. Far less than India in the nuclear sector !
Ohhhh you cant evden produce LOCOMOTIVES...but just wagons !
And 90 % of your seeds are produced by FOREIGN companies...if you did not know.
So what would Be your grains competivity WITHOUT the seeds made by foreign companies ????? And how would you transport them ? With horses ?

Anyway.....FEEL FREE to caress your navel. But in my view you should better scratch your head !

Ohhhh and on your sugarcane prowess you are so developed that over 50 % of your harvest is STILL DONE....MANUALLY !
And this despite sugarcane harvesters exist for DECADES !

Laughs...laughs...laughs...laughs !

And your airports security "World Best engineers" installed fuel tanks at the landing area of CONGO-NAZE ! Short memory ????
And short memory when your wengineers sent top the USA the black box ? It was only a part of the WING....but not the black box !

You really deserve the nickname of BRAZ-ZEROES.....for sure !

I could continue on and on and on...if you wish ! Such as the pesticides your farmers use. MOSTLY FOREIGNERS ALSO !

In conclusion.....developed nations provide the braz-zeroes with the INPUTS and the money.... and the braz-zeroes just follow the enclosed manuals !

And believe it or not the braz-zeroes DONT HAVE THE HIGHEST GDP PER CAPITA, neither in South America and not even in Mercosur.
Just for Mercosur, Argentina and Uruguay have a higher GDP per capita than the braz-zeroes.
And if I include Venezuela....the braz-zeroes are poorer not wealthier....wether you like or not !
And Chile too has a higher GDP PER CAPITA than the braz-zeroes !


So in South America alone, at least 4...yesss FOUR....countries outperform the braz-zeroes !
But reading the braz-zeroes they are 1000000000000 % sure they are the best !
Yesssss....but...but...but....only the best IDIOTS...until proven otherwise.
And I challenge any braz-zeroes to prove me wrong with facts...NOT PRETENTIONS.

WAKE UP...BRAZ-ZEROES !
Hope
written by Dnb, September 21, 2010
The people are smart, the Olympics will be there and more and more will happen in Brazil as HER TIME WILL COME!!!


Brazil is not going anywhere... sorry. Just having orgasms right now while being RAPED.



Brazil is an up and coming nation that will come to the top I guarantee that in the next 50 years you might even see a dip in the US standard of living and in increase in Brazil's standard as they find there footing


Seriously do you see world stability in the next 10 years. Let alone 50. Are you not looking at the world around you.???smilies/shocked.gif

Please face reality and stop buying into the hype you are being fed. The trend overall globally is DOWNWARD..

The human nature to be hopeful is amusing. But please get a clue.. A REAL hope.. It's not man-made
man, f**k the statistics...
written by asp, September 21, 2010
god, i listen to this frothing diaria of statistics from ch c...

and i just ate one of the best mucecas ive ever had in my life today

saturday and sunday i was at two differant beaches , one a monster wave beach , the other , a monster bootie beach , being enchanted by some really gorgous inner cheek female symatry...i think i added another 50 days to my life

not even mentioning the kind of culture i get down here, a freind of mine just sent me the new cd of never recorded music of genious electric bass player, the late luizao maia, recorded by his son , bass player jose luiz. some of the greatest music anywhere...

statistics just dont explain that s**t , but in case the dodos dont get it, those things are why we endure all the statistics ch c keeps ranting about.

a long time ago, i made the choice to be living and not afraid of statistical life , and i love how im living
saturday and sunday i was at two differant beaches , one a monster wave beach , the other , a monster bootie beach , being enchanted by some really gorgous inner cheek female symatry
written by ch.c, September 23, 2010
Wellllll.....some like to get education, some prefer dancing the Bossa Nova and going to the beaches !

SIMPLE !

Are you a Country....or just a bunch of idiots coming from different origins !

A well known fact that Brazilians dont like those who succeed in producing something !
Jealousy and Envy is what drive most brazilians. Suffice to look at your corruption levels. Stealing one way or the other is better than working and producing is the brazilian motto.

Stay proud.....idiots brazilians.

Just look at the brazilian currency having lost 12 zeroes over the course of 70 years against the US$ and the dollar itself having lost 75 % over the last 40 years against the Swiss Francs.

Your brains against our brains !

As I said a few times, over here the motto is buy 2 pay 1 !In Brazil, the motto is buy 1 pay 2 !

Laughs...laughs....laughs...laughs !

ch.c
written by João da Silva, September 24, 2010

Komrad ch.c. You have Rolex "Clocks", BUT...BUT...BUT.. we have the TIME. Haben sie verstanden?smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gifsmilies/wink.gifsmilies/cool.gif
just repeated warmed over diarea statistics...
written by asp, September 25, 2010
you keep repeating your self, ch c, like a broken record..a broken boring record...

i consider myself extremly educated to be able to pick brazil to live, because it has fullfilled me beyond my wildest dreams.it has fullfilled living.not statistical living, but, sesualy alive living, experiancing incredible things this country has to offer that you cant find anywhere else. things that you just cant seem to wrap your statistical brain around.

so lets see, all these countries you keep mentioning and how they would campare with living in brazil:

lets start with yours.

sorry bud, but, even with all your wonderful statistics i would never trade living in brazil for switzerland...never in a million years

russia ? sorry, just doesnt interest me

china ? the big giant of the future ? forget about it

india ? great culture , great food, but, ill take brazil

you seem to want to sluff off bossa nova, or culture in general. only stiff fools sluff off culture and brazil is dripping with culture , vibrant alive culture, culture you can sink your teeth into, culture that will reward you a million times over if you are open to it.

i like culture in brazil more than i like culture in europe.

so you got the watches, but down here is the time...the good time

again, dodos like you dont get that , there is so much living in brazil, i want to be here inspite of the statistics
sorry bud, but, even with all your wonderful statistics i would never trade living in brazil for switzerland...never in a million years
written by ch.c, September 25, 2010

Ahhhhh....ahhhhh......idiots like asp are always 100 % sure that right they are. That's why they are idiots...BY DEFINITION ! That is why IDIOTS they will remain.....for eternity.

I cant stop----LAUGHING !

As I said a few times, stay proud.....idiots brazilians.

And for Switzerland : Why so many foreign companies set up their headquarters or at least their EMEA (European-Middle East-Afrfica) headquarters in Switzerland ? Sorry but.... NOT ONLY FOR TAX REASONS !
Just take a geographical map and see where we are located, look at our infrastructure quality in airports, highways, paved roads, railways.....plus the skills of our workers ! Plus the overall political stability, security, cleaned cities, easy and efficient administrations.
And you could/should realize that paying some low Corporate taxes here is better than paying NO taxes in other apparent "equivalent countries" despite these ones are effectively ZERO tax countries.

Think again...in depth.
- When jobs are involved (good quality life for managers plus availability of skilled workers), corporations will NEVER chose a ZERO TAX country.
- When NO jobs are involved, corporations & individuals will automatically chose a ZERO OR NEAR ZERO TAX country.

2009 Switzerland debts to GDP 39 %. THE LOWEST OF All developed nations...and lower than many emerging nations !

2009 Switzerland ended with a BUDGET SURPLUS !!!!!

Think again, think again why Switzerland shines !


Brazil is a shame to humanity, you have proven it all the time in your past and present !

Yessssss Brazilians are more idiots than the average idiots.

Enjoy caressing your navels on the beaches Braz-zeroesssssss !!!!!!!!!!!

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written by João da Silva, September 25, 2010

Thank you so much for keeping our esteemed ,respectable and objective fellow blogger ch.c entertained. You know as much as I do that, he is on a difficult "mission" and needs all our support.smilies/wink.gif
again, dodos like you dont get that , there is so much living in brazil, i want to be here inspite of the statistics
written by ch.c, September 25, 2010
OF COURSE...........

Brazilians have the well known disease.....INFERIORITY COMPLEXION !!!!!!!

They turn the stats....UPSIDE DOWN.....AND CARESS THEIR NAVEL THAT HAS BEEN INFECTED AFTER HAVING SCRATCHED AND INFECTED THEIR HEAD.....BUT...BUT...THEY DID NOT FIND ANY OTHER SOLUTIONS THAN TO TURN THE STATS UPSIDE DOWN !!!!!

Hip hip Hurrah for Brazil having a LOWER GDP PER CAPITA than their CLOSEST neighbours......VENEZUELA......ARGENTINA.....AND URUGUAY !!!!!!!

...... and Brazil devalued their currency 4 times with 3 zeroes against the also weak US dollar over the last 7-8 decades.
What idiot in Brazil can figure out what was the weakest of these 2 currencies ?????

....and Brazil Government debts in US$ in the 1980s were so high that the country needed the Brady rescue plan ! Parts of every Brazilian debts were GUARANTEED BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT !
....WHEN will Brazil return the favor to the USA and guarantee part of their debts.....BY THE BRAZILIAN GOVERNMENT ??????

Stay proud.....idiot brazilians and enjoy your culture !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Laughs...laughs...laughs
how can you laugh with statistical diarea coming out of your mouth.....
written by asp, September 25, 2010
that is rehashed statistics you keep word vomiting out

that is why you sound so insecure , to have to keep repeating your self over and over

no, i can tell you on absolutly no uncertain terms ,would i trade the life i lead in brazil for any life in switzerland

no, i can tell you on absolutly no uncertain terms ,would i trade the life i lead in brazil for any life in switzerland
written by ch.c, September 25, 2010

We are ranked World No 1 in competivity ! IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Check by yourself if you dont trust me.
Why do you believe that 500 (yess 500) Foreign companies set up their "shops" in Switzerland in 2008 and 2009 alone ?

Over here public schools are very good. Most Swiss, even those who could afford sending their kids in private schools...DONT !

Over here, Universities are FREE ! Better yet, despite free, if the parents or students have purse difficulties lets say to feed, dress, paying transportation, etc, then they will get state subsisidies.
NON REIMBURSABLE since it is subsisidies not loans.

Better educated people will earn more, be more productive, thus will PAY more taxes and still be more COMPETITIVE ! IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

A WIN WIN ECONOMIC MODEL ! IDIOT!!!!!!!!!

BRAZ-ZEROES.....You are ALL idiots

Switzerland just having had 3 cities of out 10 RANKED AS THE MOST LIVELIEST CITIES ON EARTH !

What about the ranking of the BEST BRAZILIAN CITY ????

Certainly NOT in the first 60 !!!!! IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brazil is an arachaïc and medieval country.
Are you not ranked within the WORST 10......on this planet ?

YESSSSSS.....you are !

Viva Bin Lula and his 4000 thieves !

Did you know that 50 % of youths deaths in Brazil, aged 15-24, is due to violent deaths ?

Is this how Brazil controls its population growth ?

But you truly EXCEL in cheating, lying and hiding ! smilies/shocked.gif

But...but....but.....keep writing and caressing the Brazilians navels.
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written by João da Silva, September 25, 2010

Thanks again for motivating our Swiss friend to keep up his spirits.Your efforts are highly laudable, needless to say.smilies/cheesy.gif

Ah, don't forget to invite me for the "cachaça" party you are planning when he drops by to visit you.smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
thanks for post
written by Real Estate investment Adviser, October 15, 2010
thanks for posting and educating about investment in Brazil.
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written by Properties for Sale Worldwide, January 22, 2011
This article is helpful indeed, specially now that there are a lot of Properties for Sale Worldwide. You got a very pro discussion in here. Thanks!

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