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Will Brazil Wait for Another Tragedy Before Dealing with Killer Floods? PDF Print E-mail
2011 - February 2011
Written by Ruban Selvanayagam   
Thursday, 10 February 2011 01:41

Flood in Rio, BrazilAs tens of thousands of Rio de Janeiro based families in the Serrana region begin to pick up the pieces of what was a horrific start to the new year, serious questions remain as to how the floods had such a catastrophic effect and, indeed, what direct measures need to be made to prevent such events from occurring again.

Shortly after the disaster, a group of professionals from the Rio de Janeiro Council of Engineering, Architecture and Agronomy (CREA-RJ) spent time with key figures involved with infrastructural improvements in the main areas hit - namely Teresópolis and Nova Friburgo - with a view to adopting strategies to ensure such a magnitude of unfortunate circumstances cannot happen again.

One of the essential requirements was controlling the flow of the rivers in the region - a debated methodology would be to install dry stone blocks with heights ranging from 0.5 to 1 meter.

Another potential solution discussed was the construction of a series of underground ditches which would effectively trap runoff water. As a complementary measure, a number of hydraulic systems would be strategically located along the general direction of the river flow to control any accumulated water.

With regards to the management of the heavy rains that the region experiences annually - the group proposed to construct a retention basin via the formation of a guttering and draining gallery network.

Additionally, a series of sediment traps would be created to manage the issue of soil erosion - which could have a complementary role of serving as recreational areas and sports fields.

CREA-RJ further highlighted the need to construct reservoirs and dams in the middle and upper wider stretches of the river in order to minimize the effects of waves caused by the rains as well the accumulation of debris which changes the flow of water.

During the relief effort, one of the main criticisms was the lack of good access in order to help those most in need. Brazil's roads and highways remain significantly below standard and, whilst efforts are being made to improve the situation such as via the Growth Acceleration Program (PAC's) funding, a considerable amount of work is necessary.

In the region, plans were announced to restructure all of the roads and pathways accessing the affected areas; reconstruct bridges and recover all urban infrastructure as well as undertake in detailed structural assessments of the buildings destroyed.

On a national level, several environmentalists, planners and geologists have argued for a legislative change with the law related to property construction on slopes which should not be permitted on gradients of over 22 degrees - illustrating that there is clear evidence of landslides occurring at 30 degrees, especially in regions of high humidity and rugged topography.

Of most concern, however, is the need to ensure that any proposed measures are acted upon and not just left for discussion - with many pointing to the fact that similar events in the same state in the same period of 2010 (whilst not as severe) should have taught some clear lessons on the vulnerable situation that heavy rainfall in Brazil creates.

Ruban Selvanayagam is a Brazil real estate and land specialist. For free e-books, state guides, up-to-date statistics, strategies, interviews, articles, weekly broadcasts and more head to the Brazil Real Estate and Land Investment Guide via the following link: http://www.brazilinvestmentguide.com/brazil-property-real-estate-land/



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The answer is......
written by adrianerik, February 11, 2011
YES! The country is already waiting. And when the rains come in March and April and May many more will die and many more will become homeless. The cries of the poor and excluded, regardless of color, are meaningless.

Listen to the lesson of Egypt and Tunisia.
adrianerik
written by João da Silva, February 11, 2011

The cries of the poor and excluded, regardless of color, are meaningless.


The victims of the recent floods and last year´s in Rio are not just from this segment of the society,doc. They were some well heeled folks who built their homes in those three cities without taking into account all the building codes or lack of adequate infrastructure. The same thing is going on in the coastal cities of Brasil and our distinguished fellow blogger ASP will agree with me. Can you imagine the devastation if a Tsunami hits some of the coastal cities? you are absolutely right, the country is waiting for such an event before taking action.smilies/sad.gif

Listen to the lesson of Egypt and Tunisia.


I thought the people in those countries want democratically elected governments. Here we have been a "flourishing" democracy since 1985. So what exactly are the lessons to be learned from Egypt and Tunisia?
for sure we got hit bad.....
written by asp, February 11, 2011
basicly because of some really bad recent building planning that didnt give the rivers a way to flow to the sea...

the sub solo in our apartment building became a swimming pool , the streets were totaly a lake, and , people did die in the neighborhood , one of electricution

this has been going on in brazil forever. some serious drane cleaning would help a lot

joao has a good point, adrian ,why does it always have to be revolution ? why cant it be people just have to take responsibility....responsibility for what they build , and where and how, and what they throw away, and where....

where i live, its absolutly inundated by wind and rain...any one who doesnt build with that in mind, is going to bang their head on the wall (or at least the sucker that buys from a person who doesnt know how to build for wind and rain , will bang his head on the wall )

hell, liters of water would flow into my telephone line until i finaly discovered it was the neihbors churrascera...and guess who is the one who is covering it up ?

how long the community over seers ,where i live ,take to get something to let the rivers flow to the ocean is anybodies guess, until that time, any rain that is slightly heavy is going to flood all the streets
You're right.
written by adrianerik, February 11, 2011
Actually, the populist call is not appropriate for the flooding mess. Not in most cases. When I saw the map of those cities in Rio, I could see clearly that one of the entire cities was in a river plain.

In some areas of the Northeast, it is a bit more complicated. You either waste away in the interior or you come to Feira de Santana or Salvador looking for work. (folks don't go to Sao Paulo or Rio because of the violence). Here, a wall of luxury building are being built along the beach while others build where they can. There are few options. It's difficult to say "why don't you desperate people make better choices."

Joao, yes, Brazil has a quase democratic electoral 'process'. (even though it could improve by reconsidering the amount of power given to poltical parties to obtain seats in congress versus the ability of an individual to run).

That's about it.

Whether Brazil is a 'democratic state' is another question. But that applies to any government that is just 25 years into its second (third?) wave of direct elections.

You're correct, however, the country does not need an Egypt/Tunisia-size hurricane.

It needs about 27 mini-hurricanes along with 5500 mini-mini hurricanes.

And yes, they need good neigbhor committees to make sure everyone is not tossing their trash in the streets.

Not a revolution...an AFFIRMATION of democracy
i like that, AFFIRMATION OF DEMOCRACY
written by asp, February 11, 2011
for sure , adrian,besides flooding , many other factors are not in favor of people who are extremly poor , in brazil , right now . there is absolutly a sub economy and nether under world of gut leval survival and all the ramifications surrounding that . i know anybody who is in favor of brazil and its growth and properity , would like to see these things addressed .

it seems the rich and the poor , who made the desician to set up on a hill or in a river path , got hurt ...i would like to think that , even if i was very poor, i would not want to set up my shack in a place that might risk getting flooded. for sure, some places , it wasnt apherant , but , many others it looked like you could predict it...

its certainly one reason i didnt live in california....they are going to have to deal with an earthquake..i didnt want to live through that
Killer Floods ? Flourishing democracy? I blame scorpions in Brasilia's congress
written by DU 48, February 11, 2011
An extract below from Washington Novaes' excellent column in the 'estadao' newspaper serves as a warning to Brazilians on the consequences of government inaction on flood defences.

Para constatar a lentidão e/ou anomia do poder público basta lembrar o que foi relatado há poucos dias (4/2) pelo Portal do Meio Ambiente: tramitam pelo Senado, alguns deles há anos, 48 projetos de lei que tratam de "formas para prevenir mortes e prejuízos causados por eventos extremos da natureza". Nenhum deles está perto de discussão final e aprovação. Nem mesmo o que torna obrigatória a realização de estudos geológicos, geotécnicos e topográficos em encostas de morros ou áreas sujeitas a inundação, apresentado pelo falecido senador Romeu Tuma. Se já existisse ou fosse cumprido, teria evitado centenas de mortes nas serras do Rio de Janeiro e em várias áreas de São Paulo, Minas e outros Estados. Este jornal também noticiou (7/2) que há 170 anos a cidade de São Paulo tem projetos para evitar inundações.

http://www.estadao.com.br/estadaodehoje/20110211/not_imp678121,0.php

Flourishing democracy? Ex deposed president Fernando Collor is to be part of a group to study political party reform!Sir ney is in there as well...

Lack of food in the Chamber of Deputies- mainly c**kroaches- makes the scorpions look for other prey!Plenty of choice, I should say -now where's my list....?

http://www.estadao.com.br/noticias/nacional,na-casa-do-povo-a-invasao-dos-escorpioes,676908,0.htm
adrianerik
written by João da Silva, February 12, 2011

But that applies to any government that is just 25 years into its second (third?) wave of direct elections.


Lets see if I got my facts correctly: Collor/Itamar, FHC (2 terms),Lula (2 terms), Dilma (current). Its 6th, isn't it? Applies to the governors also.

Not a revolution...an AFFIRMATION of democracy


"Affirmation" of democracy will begin only when our educated but spineless middle class get off their butts and start demanding things from our elected and selected officials. smilies/angry.gif

Social
written by Douglas, February 12, 2011
This is a social problem that the government needs to tackle. They just cannot sit around and wait for this to happen again.
Many people on twiter.com and www.miius.com are voicing their frustrations with the Brazilian government towards this issue so let's join them on social sites!
electoral education
written by adrianerik, February 13, 2011
I mark the electoral process from the mid 1980s, NOT each individual elections. It takes time for the democratic psyche to enter a community...several elections, angry outbursts when community concerns are not met, try, try again until a more sophisticated political thinking and reaction creates different types of organizations which sweeps the old ones away.

That takes time. Much more than 25 years. Electoral politics starts with rock stars and personality voting before the ability to define community concerns that supercedes race and personality is established in a community.

For example, the voters in the capital of the United States, Washington, D.C. got home rule (the right to elect a mayor) around the same time as Brazil's return to democracy in the 80s.

The citizens of Washington are not nearly as sophisticated as the citizens of Philadelphia in electoral politics where citizens vocally make their anger known to ward leaders who combine to make their positions known to district leaders who are careful not to anger their constituents when representing the political party. In Philadelphia there are numerous candidates who come from the bottom, chosen by the people. D.C. is still a top-down process.

Unfortunately, the large multiple party process in Brazil is incestuous, with candidates criss-crossing parties irregardless of the so-called ideological positions of that party and often excluding 'peoples choices'.
I remember....I remember....
written by ch.c., February 15, 2011
how braz-zeroes were so critical against the USA when they had their New Orleans natural disasters.
Since then...the braz-zeroes have had many many more people killed in floodings.

And to adrianerick "The citizens of Washington are not nearly as sophisticated as the citizens of Philadelphia"

but...but....but....in Wash-ington they have NO INCOME TAX at all !

Therefore they are more sophisticated in my view.
That is the capital of the United States of Anachronism.

Just look at the new Ohhhhhhlala budget proposal. 1,6 trillion dollars BUDGET DEFICITS ! Their highest on a GDP ratio basis since 1945 !!!!!!!

And then you hear gringos saying how bad it is in the Euro zone.

Lets face it, both the Euro and the US dollar is the same monkeys currency !

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written by João da Silva, February 15, 2011

I remember....I remember....


This commentator must be the real ch.c, our Komrad. Obviously he remembers everything, but..but..but.. learns nothing about the "intricacies" of politics in the "Americas" or most of Europe.

Lets face it, both the Euro and the US dollar is the same monkeys currency !


No comments. I wish to remain more neutral than the Switzerlanders.

P.S: ch.c, as usual, you are deviating from the main issue under discussion. ie "Affirmation of Democracy".smilies/wink.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/sad.gifsmilies/shocked.gifsmilies/cry.gif
P.S: ch.c, as usual, you are deviating from the main issue under discussion. ie "Affirmation of Democracy".
written by ch.c., February 16, 2011
If you are 100 % sure that an affirmation of Democracy should be made in a country with 2 POLITICAL PARTIES, such as in the United States of Anachronism, then ask Lula and his successor to eliminate about 22 political parties in Brazil !

I repeat that most autocrats countries have far more political parties than the U.S.of Anarchy. And this despite having a much much smaller population.

And a word about Europe : almost ALL of them had....colonies...empires..... !
France still has many OVERSEAS TERRITORIES, the U.S. still have tens and tens of overseas MILITARY BASES...if you did not know !

True democracies as per YOU WHO KNOW !
Right ?


Ohhhhhh la la....ohhhh la la !
ch.c
written by João da Silva, February 16, 2011

Thanks ch.c for your wonderful comments on Democracy. I am sure Adrianerik, ASP, Ruban, Du48, will appreciate them. Though I am a bit busy with several things, I thought I would reproduce a message that a lady sent to the administrator of the Condo where we live. Since your Portuguese is better than my French, I bet you would get the crux of her message. (She talks about the "dictatorship" of the minority).

Um dos maiores patrimônios do Condomínio X sempre foi a sua vegetação (que infelizmente está sumindo), e como tal deve ser respeitado e cuidado, e não destruído.

Concordo plenamente com as colocações do sr. João, pois não dá mais para tolerar a devastação que o nosso condomínio vem sofrendo, sempre patrocinada por uma minoria intransigente com base em alegações suspeitas e infundadas. E tudo feito arbitrariamente, sem a aprovação da maioria em assembléia.

Se existe algum risco eminente de sinistro, concordo que procedimentos devam ser tomados para se resolver o problema, mas desde que amparados por laudo técnico emitido pelo órgão fiscalizador responsável, para dar validade a ação. Do contrário a destruição dos eucalíptos será apenas mais um atentado contra a natureza, ao meio ambiente e a prática da preservação ecológica, tão venerados teoricamente, mas tão desrespeitados na prática. Por que não procurar uma solução para preservá-los em vez de destruí-los? Parece que isso ninguem quer.....

Sou definitivamente contra a derrubada dos eucaliptos, existem prioridades máximas a serem atendidas que não estão sendo devidamente levadas em consideração, como o caso das infiltrações que são alarmantes.

Solicito a suspensão imediata da derrubada dos eucaliptos, e de quaisquer outras árvores ou vegetação que estejam na lista, até que tenhamos um parecer técnico sobre as condições das mesmas, para então tratar do assunto em ASSEMBLÉIA


The lady comes from an educated middle class and she is questioning the decisions "imposed" by a small minority (like the ones who don't pay taxes in Washington D.C) and acting like the citizens of Philadelphia (or Geneve, to make you feel good
smilies/wink.gif).

Use the phone, e-mail, twitter, etc; to demand things from your elected and selected officials. We may not be smart like you guys in Switzerland, but some people have to take the lead to ensure that things are done the right way and not to fill the pockets of the "minority".smilies/angry.gif
Yes...back to the point!
written by adrianerik, February 17, 2011
Unfortunately, sometimes there is such a small-minded attempt to criticize the United States that the most important issues are lost.

The ISSUE is not NOT how many political parties exists in a country...it's whether there exists an open process by which the large base influences the party. Much less influence the party but IS the party. A triangle that is now politically right side up with the base on top and the small point on the bottom, receiving the will of the people. This is most important in the ability of candidates to arise out of the people...and not out of the party. There are cities in America with strong 'party machines' where it is difficult to go against the choice of the 'bosses of the party'. This is a fading structure. Even in Philadelphia we have numerous candidates who ran against the wishes of their party...and won...

This is even more evident in states outside of the northeast where independent candidates can be just as strong as party candidates.

In Brazil, an 'independent' cannot run. Candidates don't win seats, parties win seats. And one should read the Brazilian political sociologist Nilo Rosa's book (also educated in the Sorbonne - which is the bigoted Janer Crisaldo's claim to fame), on the ability of Brazilian parties to 'pulverize' the votes of the masses and allow a certain 'class' of Brazilians to win election. There is a game among this class of candidates who switch parties, irregardless of the (non) ideology of these parties just to ensure that their class wins.

The voice in the PCdB, PT, PMDB, DEMS and others become the same voice...essentially. None of them are the voice of the people. It wasn't the people who put them in but a manipulation of party politics that encourages as many of the people to run as possible so that the 'people' might collectively disperse 65 - 70% of their vote among 20 - 30 candidates while the choice of the 'bosses' walks away with the election with votes that represent a small class of that population.

ch.c - the issue is so much bigger than more spitting.
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written by João da Silva, February 17, 2011

And one should read the Brazilian political sociologist Nilo Rosa's book (also educated in the Sorbonne - which is the bigoted Janer Crisaldo's claim to fame), on the ability of Brazilian parties to 'pulverize' the votes of the masses and allow a certain 'class' of Brazilians to win election.


I view all the Sorbonne educated sociologists with suspicion. So I didn't read nor would like to read the book recommended by you. I am so sorry to disappoint you.smilies/wink.gif

ch.c - the issue is so much bigger than more spitting.


Yes, indeed. but...but...but...ch.c has already confessed several times in this blog that he is a "Cartesian" and such folks are unable to view the "broader" picture. Perhaps that is because he didn't go to Sorbonne (thank God)?

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"Cartesians" are the antichrist???
written by adrianerik, February 18, 2011
Unfortunately, I would consider ch.c, R.Amaral and Janer Crisaldo all to be cartesians.

They all have manufactured their glorious land of "Here" and have drawn a garbage filled straight line to their hated land of "There". A land of the us versus the them. And to paraphrase the Bible, there is an eternal chasm between the two, 'THEY' can't reach US and WE don't want to reach "THEM". Wasn't the book "Gullivers Travels" written about such idiotic thinking...the people of Lilliput killing the people of Blelefestu over which was the correct end to crack open an egg!

More unfortunately, most are comfortable with 'us'/'them' thinking. They feel that it makes sense of the world. These people never clap their hands because their right hand refuses to touch the left hand.

You would think that in an age where humanity has never had more access to inforation than at any time in its history that there would be 'broader' thinkers. But the technological mandate of "garbage in...garbage out" still dominates and weak positions are supported by a mountain of weak facts generated by any turd with a computer and an internet connection.

So...it goes!
for sure, adrian
written by asp, February 18, 2011
the amount of "us" versus "them", espcially on the internet , is ridiculas.

i dont think it will ever change , human beings will always find a way to express their animal origins...we are just beasts, maybe more "evolved" but not close to the longest survivers....bacteria has us beat by millions of years, and will be here long after we are destroyed
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